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Hello. You're about to drift into an episode of the Nightly, a podcast designed to help you unwind and relax. For the full phone free immersive light experience, visit Hatch Co. Enjoy. All right. I'm Mat.
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And I'm Josh. Welcome to the Nightly from Hatch, a slumber party for pop culture lovers. Hi, Matt.
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How are you doing very well, thank you, mate. How are you?
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I'm doing very well tonight. I feel at ease. I feel like I've been making it through my to do lists lately pretty well. And I'm extra excited to be here in the Hatch pillow fort with you tonight because we have a special guest, Joe Firestone. Hi, Jo.
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Hi.
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We always start when we have a guest. Joe, for the listeners, is an extremely funny writer and comedian and actor who's just the best. And we always start when we have a guest, or we often start with asking the guest, like, do you have a sleep routine? Do you have a nighttime routine? Or any tips and tricks for listeners trying to get to bed?
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Definitely. I think my favorite thing to do is listen to an audiobook for too long. I fall asleep for some of it. Miss a lot of plots. Okay. Then I fall asleep. I'm asleep through half of the playback. Okay. Then about three in the morning, I like to wake up and go to the bathroom. That's a really special time for me and my body. And then I go back to sleep and I think about how much I missed of the audiobook after the bathroom.
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Do you put the audiobook back on or do you just go straight thoughts?
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No, because by that point I've lost my headphones.
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Jo, do you have an audiobook you've been listening to some of and missing.
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Some of that you would recommend?
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Yes.
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No further questions.
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Oh, I. I'm listening to a book, the Perfect Marriage. But perfect is crossed out, so I don't know what it's called.
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So it might just be called the Marriage.
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Yeah.
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Interesting.
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I don't know. So basically, it's really juicy. There's a husband and wife, and the husband's mistress gets stabbed, and they don't know. And the wife is a defense attorney and she decides to represent her husband. And then it's like, who did this?
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Wow.
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But now I don't know because I missed so much last night. I missed. I think I missed maybe 45 minutes.
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So when you're asking who did this, you might not even know what this.
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Is at this point.
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No, I don't. Yesterday they were talking about a new character that's a reporter, and I thought I guess I'll just never know. Cause I'll just never know who it is. Cause I know if I rewind, I'm gonna sleep through the same part.
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Yeah, that is the problem, is it? I suppose every book is a whodunit if you sleep enough through it.
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Who done what?
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Who did what? Yeah.
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Well, they say they make movies now where they're like, in the last scene we just picked up that guy, and in the next scene he's a bad guy. So basically, I do think they should do that with books.
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Just some audiobooks just have them say, like, on the last page, here's what happened.
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Yes.
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Oh, yeah, that's such a good idea.
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So, Joe, this is going to be huge news for you, but on Hatch, we have a program called Hatch Classics that is like performers reading classic books and it's in 10 minute increments and there is a recap at the beginning of each increment. So Hatch actually has. Previously on Book.
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Do you think they've done the Perfect Marriage?
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I don't know. I think it's mostly classics.
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I think they did, like, this might be a classic.
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Okay, well, you don't know.
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Might do it in 50, 60 years times.
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Yeah, in 50, 60 years times, Jo.
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Will have listened to the whole thing.
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That's great. It's an amazing feeling when you're like, I wish that they invented something that blew air and could dry your head with hot blowing air. Do you know what I mean? And they're like, yeah.
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And then someone's like, blow dryer. And you're like, what? What have I been doing all these years?
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I know, I've been sticking my head in the microwave. And then you just think, this is an amazing thing. I'm so glad that everybody's been working behind my back.
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I love that. I find that with like a kitchen thing sometimes where you go, oh, there's like, gosh, it takes so long to cut garlic up real little. And they're like, oh, there's a thing. You just squeeze it and the garlic comes out like, play.
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D'oh.
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And I'm like, oh, God, there's geniuses afoot.
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Yes.
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I actually think the garlic press is a huge step back in terms of the evolution of man.
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You're against a garlic press? Wait, tell me more.
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Yeah, they're really hard to clean.
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They're very hard to clean.
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And also, I don't know why I have to clean it because it's always. I never put anything but garlic in it.
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Yep, that's right. That's right.
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So I shouldn't have to clean it.
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And garlic's one of those things that Anti grill. Grombolio.
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What did you say?
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What is the word when it's like anti?
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What did you say? Anti.
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Sounds like a great chef. Antigrambolio's restaurant.
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He makes just the most authentic homemade pasta. Wait, Joe, Antimicrobial?
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Is that the word for food?
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I don't know. All I know is it's probably not antichrome Polio.
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That was so far away from antimicrobial. I didn't know that was what you were going for.
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I think it is, but I'm not even sure.
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Wait, but garlic has some kind of power, you know?
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I don't know.
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It does.
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It must. Maybe Hatch has a product that knows what garlic's power is.
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I'm gonna look up in the pillow Ford Encyclopedia Anti Grumbolio and see the closest word.
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Garlic's anti Grombolio properties.
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Oh, yeah, I should look up garlic too.
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It has got power, hasn't it? It's good for the blood, I think.
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Garlic is the blood.
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Yeah.
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Antithrombin.
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There's no way that's the word I had in.
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It, honestly.
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Antithrombotic.
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Antithrombotic is a word that relates to garlic.
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What's thrombotic?
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Now I'm gonna have to go deeper down the rabbit hole.
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Sort of like grombolio.
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It's an Italian grombolio or a less Italian grombolio.
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Antithrombotic.
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It inhibits platelet aggregation. Is that what you meant?
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Yeah, that's blood related.
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No.
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And you know it. You know it was.
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Yeah, you're right. I knew that was what you meant.
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Here's what I. Here's what I think. I. Here's basically, you know, like this is like, this is basically what I was thinking is that garlic self cleans. That's what I thought.
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All right.
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This is what I thought was the word.
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I said like an oven.
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And like an oven, the oven is antichromebolio too.
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This word is gonna be in my head until my death. And I will never know what you were thinking of.
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From now on, I'm just gonna assume that everything is anti grombolio.
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I truly was throwing a hail Mary with antimicrobial, and you shot that down immediately.
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Thanks for that Hail Mary. That's the Hail Mary I was looking for.
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I'm trying here, Jo.
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Tryin really hard.
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You're coming on the show going, garlic is anti grombolio.
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Right?
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What do you think? I'm gonna do with that.
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Listen, listen. Every guest has the right to make a little mess, and you guys gotta mop it up. That's the rule.
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So we're kind of on this podcast. We're kind of anti grombombolio. We're cleaning up.
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There we go. The Anti Grombolio podcast. Yeah. I think is that is hair. Anti Grombolio is hair self cleaning if you don't clean it for long enough.
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That's right. You have the natural oils and stuff. I'm pointing to my own head where.
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There is no hair.
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Yeah.
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I'm just trying to think if that's. If we could work backwards and kind.
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Of a unified definition of anti grombolio. I love hair. So hair.
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So we got garlic, question mark, ovens and hair.
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Probably.
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Well, you know what I think might be what's that? Is inside the nose. Because inside the mouth, you have to brush.
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Yep. But inside the nose, it's doing it for itself.
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You never have to to be told to brush your nose.
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That's true.
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So we got hair, we got noses, we got ovens, we got garlic. Imagine if you were playing like that.
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Connections game for the New York Times, and four of the words. Four of the 16 words were noses, ovens, hair, garlic.
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And you were like, oh, it's those four. Because they're all anti grumbolio. That's the connection.
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The success rate on that quiz would be so low.
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It would be so it would only be people who've listened to this podcast episode.
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Imagine how psyched they would be to.
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Be like, I know this. They would feel so smug, and they'd.
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Be like, not even the purple round. It'd just be yellow.
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It would be like, yellow. Yeah, right. Anti Grombolia wasn't even the purple one.
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I wish I knew more about this game. What is the game? The New York Times.
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It's pretty fun. Joe, do you play? Cause you knew the purple versus yellow.
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I just met the game creator, Winnaloo.
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Whoa.
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And it was so cool. And I was like, oh, my gosh. You are the hero. She makes every single puzzle.
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I didn't know that. So the way that it's played, you get like a grid of. It's four by four, and there's 16 words or phrases, and you have to pick. You have to sort them by what unifies clumps of four, essentially. So if it's like. If you see like, horse, cow, pig, chicken, you might select those all as farm animals. But usually it's, like, harder than that. Jo Did I explain it okay?
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Yeah. Because then another one would be like, thigh, breast, chick, fil A sauce, and neck. And then you'd be like, wait, is that chicken?
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Right.
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Okay, totally. And so they tried to throw you off by having kind of overlapping clues. Sometimes like clues that could fit in a couple different places, but once you sort them all out, it's like, row.
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Of four, row of four. Row of four, row of four.
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Yeah.
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Got you. This is purely for fun, right?
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It's just for fun.
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It's for money.
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Is it?
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How are you profiting off of this? I can't even imagine how one would.
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Are you good at this game? Cause I'm kind of hit or miss.
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I'm hit or miss. But, you know, I would say that sometimes I do think. I think, wow, I'm really on the same page. And that's the times when the comments section is like, this puzzle was crazy. Nobody would ever understand this one. And that's the only time where I'm like, got it. Yes.
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And you're, like, sorting the words. Like A Beautiful Mind that's, like, appearing in front of you. I can't stop thinking about the word anti grumbolio.
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Maybe it's real. Because I'll feel like such a jerk if we sign off and we get all these letters, because we can get emails.
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I can't wait to get those letters.
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People. People can write to us, and they'll be like, yeah, we know about anti grumbolio. It's science, and Joe knows science, and you dummies don't.
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Will you forward me the ones that say those that. That's a word. And don't forward me the ones that say that it doesn't make sense.
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Any complimentary feedback we get about the word anti grombolio I will send to you immediately.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And any unkind feedback I will withhold until I die.
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Nice. Okay.
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If I could see it, though, that would be just for my own sanity.
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Yeah, you could see it too.
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Yeah, you and I get to see.
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It, but we can't tell Jack.
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Yeah.
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But it would be nice for SO.
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Listeners, if you have any kind of feedback about the word anti grombolio, the concept, if you know other things that you would consider to be anti gromboglio, or if you're like, that's definitely not a word. We won't tell Joe that part, but if it would help me and Matt.
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To feel validated or if you've ever gone out on a date and eaten at Anthony Gromboglio's, that's right.
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We want kind of a yelp review.
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Of include the service because that's part of it. Is there good parking? Yeah. Send it to thenightlyach co. That's thenightlyach co. We really like always write into us with any kind of sleep related inquiries, feedback, but especially about what is or isn't anti crumbolio and in fact whether that's a thing at all.
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And what feels like a perfect segue after that. It's what I normally like to do on the. On this show is, is go back through some pub quiz questions that I had in the previous week that have tripped me up.
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Oh yeah.
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However it felt right because Joe was on. I got our producer Harry to put together a quiz that we could do together. I thought that would be.
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I love that.
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That'd be a bit of fun, wouldn't it?
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Great.
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He's put together an incredibly evil set of questions because it's the Winter Olympics. He's gone for a set of questions on curling which. Have either of you got any attachment or knowledge of curling?
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So right now I'm thinking it's bobsled. But then I thought, well, that would be called bobsled. So. And I'm back to kind of zero.
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You're absolutely right. It isn't bobsled. So that's one. Right.
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Nice.
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That was the first question.
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Yeah.
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Is it bobsled? Curling.
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Bobsled.
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I know I can picture curling, but I can't explain how or why it happens.
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It's basically, it's an ice rink, but you slide a 40 pound granite stone down the ice to a big bullseye and I think it's closest to Middlewinds and you can knock other people's stones out the way. It's the one, you know, where you sweep the ice. They sweep the ice to make the.
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Ice bocce.
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Well, I've got a feeling this is gonna be a fruitless quiz, but let's.
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Give it a shot.
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First question seems like a good place to start. Like golf, curling was invented in Scotland. But how old is the oldest curling stone ever found?
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Oh, good question. How old is the oldest curling stone ever found? I'm gonna say 300 years old.
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Okay, Josh, that's really crazy. Cause stones are so old.
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That's fair.
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That is an excellent point. Yeah.
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So. Because maybe they were just using regular stones before. And there's. Right, I'm gonna go ahead and say 301 2. 302.
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Dammit, Joe, that's a really. That's a really cruel play.
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Yeah.
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I'm gonna go for about a thousand.
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Oh, that's good. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know what? I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna say 15,000. 15,000 for me.
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The answer is 1511.
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Whoa, whoa. That's so old.
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Well, one nil. Yeah, to me, that's. Yeah, I'm surprised about that. Oh, no, the year was. I'm getting word from the producer. The year was 1511, which.
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Oh, okay. Okay. So it's about 500 years ago. Yeah.
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So actually Jo wins, so Joe wins.
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No, I changed my answer to 15,000 years old, so. Josh, you won.
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No, no, no. Don't. Just be nice.
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No, I did it on record. I said, actually, I changed my answer to 15,000 years.
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All right, I'll take the point that you're graciously seeding to me.
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Yeah. Well, congratulations, Josh. What do they call the bullseye shaped target at each end of a curling sheet?
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Oh, the hoodie.
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The hoodie.
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Josh says the hoodie.
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That's good.
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Gosh, this is, like, the most basic.
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Thing to know about curling after curling exists, and I do not know it.
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I'm gonna call it the paddle.
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Oh.
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Oh, yeah, that's good. I feel like it should just be the bullseye.
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Yeah, the target.
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That's what I'll go for. So we've got the hoodie.
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I said the pad.
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The target. The answer is the house.
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The house, of course.
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So no points.
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Yeah, no points here.
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Really good.
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No points there. What do they call the action of sliding a stone towards the target? These are really difficult.
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Oh, I know this one.
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Yeah.
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Curling.
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I mean. Yeah, that would make sense. Maybe it's a trick question.
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Yeah, because it's like, you know, when you throw a ball in baseball, that's called baseball.
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That's right. It all falls under the heading of baseball. I'm gonna try to get more specific. Cause I do think if I can get more specific than curling, then maybe I can win a point. And I'm gonna guess I just think.
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It might be a mistake, but. Okay.
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I'm gonna call it. I'm gonna say hurling.
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That's good.
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Yeah.
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Close to curling, but a little different.
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Oh, that's good.
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I'm gonna go for sweeping. I know that's what you do after.
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The fact, but that's a good guess.
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So apparently, Josh was closest. It's throwing.
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Throwing.
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Oh, my gosh.
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Curling is when you make it curve by spinning it a bit. So technically that would be right, I suppose. All right, do you know what? We'll go for one more. Josh is Two up. So, realistically, the comeback here isn't on.
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Can you imagine the atmosphere of this pub after all these questions? Brutal.
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Oh, it's dead. It's dead. Everyone's gone. So, finally, last question. Joe. Josh, curling has a tradition called broomstacking. What do you think it is?
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Oh, it's when everybody puts their hand in the middle and they say, go, team.
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That's pretty good.
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I like that. Yeah, yeah, it's wholesome.
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I think it's when you want to protest the results of a curling match and you put your instruments you use to push, you know, to clear the ice. When you put those across the curling field to show that you're playing under, that the game is being played under protest.
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Okay, really good.
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Interesting. That's very niche. I'm gonna go with what I think would be the most obvious when more than one person sweeps.
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Mm.
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That's broomstacking in my world.
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Jeez, these are really good. One of these has gotta be the right answer.
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I'm gonna shock you, Joe. None of them are the right answer.
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Oh.
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What was the right answer?
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It's drinking together after the game.
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Oh, that's nice. Come on. That's fun.
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That is nice. And with that, I think it's about time we all went broomstacking.
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Yeah, I think that's beautiful. Jo, thank you for joining us on tonight's episode of the Nightly. Is there anything that you would like to direct our listeners to? Anything that you've done outside of this podcast that you would like people to hear or see or read?
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Oh, you can listen. I have an audiobook called Murder on Sex island and you could miss all kinds of information if you go to sleep to that.
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It's so good. I love the book Murder on Sex Island.
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Thank you.
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And your new book, Sex on Murder island is available for pre order, right?
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Yeah. It's confusing because those are the same words, but. Yeah.
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Are all the words in the book the same, just in a different order?
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Yes.
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And the last thing that we do is as we ask our guest to say goodnight to anyone out there in the world. So if you want to set the scene, if you just have someone you want to get a message to at bedtime, we'd love to hear it.
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I want to say goodnight to your producer Harry, for thinking that those trivia questions would be good for us, because they were demoralizing, and I just don't understand why they were so hard.
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They were pretty hard because we didn't know anything about the topic at hand.
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None of us did.
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Absolutely nothing. And I think that. I think that there's just so much to learn and this was a good lesson of that.
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Thank you, Joe. So good night to Harry and this has been such a wonderful evening together and I'm starting to get tired. So good night to both of you, Joe and Matt, good night.
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Good night, Sam. Foreign.
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Episode: Is Garlic Self-Cleaning? Plus Curling Trivia w/ Jo Firestone
Date: February 8, 2026
Host(s): Matt & Josh
Special Guest: Jo Firestone (comedian, writer, actor)
A delightfully cozy and whimsical late-night conversation designed to help listeners wind down. This episode features the hilarious Jo Firestone joining Matt and Josh in the "Hatch pillow fort" for a meandering chat about sleep routines, the curious properties of garlic (is it self-cleaning?), the invention of the term "anti grombolio," and a riotous curling trivia quiz. Unwinding is the name of the game, with plenty of playful banter and pop culture tangents.
(00:57–03:12)
(04:14–13:31)
(14:09–20:18)
(20:18–end)
| Segment | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------|---------------| | Jo’s Sleep Routine Chat | 00:57–03:12 | | Audiobook Recaps & Hatch Classics | 03:23–04:11 | | Garlic Press, "Self-Cleaning" Concept | 04:14–07:00 | | “Anti Grombolio” Wordplay | 07:03–13:31 | | Curling Trivia Contest | 14:09–20:18 | | Goodnight Messages & Wrap-up | 20:18–end |
Playful, witty, and conversational—this episode oozes late-night, sleepover vibes, heavy on gentle humor and silly improvisation. Listeners are drawn in for a light-hearted, cozy escape, with moments of nostalgia and camaraderie.