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Hello. You're about to drift into an episode of the Nightly a podcast designed to help you unwind and relax. For the full phone free immersive light experience, visit Hatch Co. Enjoy. All right, I'm Mat.
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And I'm kp. Welcome to the Night Glee from Hatch, where your late night thoughts go to rest.
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Kp, last time we spoke. I've got to ask you this because I've been worried about it for you. You said you were going camping. You've obviously made it back in one piece. Yes, but how was it?
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Do I have like a post Sleeping in the Dust Glow?
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You do, actually. I don't want to say anything, but yeah, it's working for you.
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It's exfoliated with just pure dirt all over my face. It was lovely. I love this site that I go to. It does have some like odd little amenities that I think are to me bonuses. But it's interesting. So it's like right next to a model airplane strip.
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Okay, this is great.
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So that's like in the campground. Yeah. So this was a really interesting. They start early. This is mostly. I'd say the clientele of the model airplane club is. Well, what do you think? What would you guess?
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I think incredibly cool, trendy, a lot of women about. I'm thinking like a rap video circa 2003.
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Yep. It's 22 year old female influencers.
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Yes. Yeah.
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Yeah, that's it. Would you believe it's 70 year old veteran men mostly?
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Yeah, yeah. Could have gone either way, but.
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Okay.
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So that one's one for the older ones. Yeah, yeah. How is that sleeping underneath a flight path but for miniature airplanes?
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So that was an interesting. Again, I think of it as a bonus. Some people that enjoy their sleep might think of it as a real detriment. But it's like, I just think it's cool. I mean you don't see it a lot. So they do start at around 8 or 8:30. So you're hearing little planes that are chugging along next to your tent. But I'd say in camping you wake up kind of crack of dawn anyway because it's hot and birds are right in your ear. So I thought it was fun. We went down and watched them for a while. They're just really interesting because some of the planes now, I mean the new guys are doing 3D printed planes.
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Oh, cool. So what kind of stuff are we talking? Is it like military stuff? Jumbo jet? Yeah, everything in between.
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Kind of everything in between. The one I liked the best was sort of like a Red Baron, Like Snoopy's little plane.
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Oh my God. Yes.
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And some have little like figures of guys in the cockpit. Like tiny little men are in there, which I think is cute.
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That's really. I caught myself first. And so that's really cool. It's not necessarily, you know, it's. I think that's really cool.
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I think so too. I think so too. And then there is some new. There's some younger guys. I mean a guy, a dad brought his like two six year old boys, which I think is really sweet to do that on a weekend. But then there's some young guys that are like 19 that are really, you can tell they're gonna go far in this exact club.
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Yeah, love that. You know, they're the sort of the cool kids of that club, the Heartthrobs. The older guys think they've got no respect. They don't play by the rules.
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I mean, they had some fighter jets. He was going fast. The 19 year old.
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That's so cool. I guess you wouldn't get a chance to have a go at that, would you? I assume they're quite protective.
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Well, they sure aren't. I mean it was. They came over, the guy that seemed to kind of be in charge because we were just watching and cheering and he came over and he's like, if you guys want to learn, we do free trainings on Saturdays. Just come back on Saturday and we'll give you a trainer plane and we'll just get you up in the air.
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No way. Yeah, for free.
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Free. I mean, and then he was like, you know, if you like it, we'll give you three months, just free in the club. You can come whenever. And then you just have to join the club, which is $60 a year, which is nothing.
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This is incredible. I thought this was always a very expensive hobby, like the reserve of very wealthy people.
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So I think if you are like getting into building really, really cool ones. Because we were like, what is the cost breakdown? And he was like, most of these planes that you're seeing in front of you are like 100 to $300.
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Not as bad as.
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Which is less than I thought. No, I thought like a thousand. I really did. And then the control get kind of expensive. The controller and the batteries, it's another 200. 300.
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Okay, so still about 500 quid for a hobby like that. I don't think it's too bad. You pay the same amount for a tennis club and a racket, wouldn't you? Yeah, more than that.
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And he seemed to say that the community was very, like, nice to each other. And it's like, yeah, I borrow my plane, you can have these parts, go to this guy. You know, everyone starts giving each other deals and being really kind to first timers especially. So catch me coming back and getting really far in this.
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How far away is this place from you?
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About an hour 40.
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Okay, so it's doable. That is doable.
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Definitely doable. Not. Not every Saturday, but it's. It's enough to train for free.
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All right. Okay. Well, I mean, I'm on board with that. If that were the case every time there was a camping trip mentioned, I would be there in a heartbeat.
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Yeah, I like these niche little groups. I like when people have odd hobbies that you don't hear about, and especially ones that are very tactile, not screen based. I'm like, we just got to keep these ones alive.
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Oh, I completely agree. If model airplanes aren't there, what is it that gets you camping? Because I just can't. I can't get it in my head there. I just. I can't commit to it.
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I love the no screen time. I think it's really nice to get all your friends together. And not that I'm like, really so on it when I'm with my friends anyway, but there's something just really nice about having a drink by the campfire, and that's the only thing there is to do. It is just we're making each other laugh and playing games and just laughing and laughing at the campfire until it's time to go to bed. So I just like that. It's like, very forcing you to be in the present.
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Yes.
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Which is kind of nice with your friends.
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And is that sort of an unwritten rule that you've got then, that you just kind of. Phones are away and that's it?
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Yeah, I think so. It would be. It's really uncouth to take a phone out, I'd say. In kp.
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How many are going, though? Is it. Because if it is just like two of you, for example, that would be really poor. Yeah. To bring a phone out.
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Yeah. There's six of us. But you're also. You're surrounded by just lake and beautiful sun and birds. I mean, there's a great blue heron, which are those giant birds. Then we were feeding the squirrels, which
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you're not supposed to do, but I wouldn't tell anybody.
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Just a little popcorn. He loved it.
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Is that. Is that so? Have you always gone with those same people? Is this like A legacy thing that you just kind of. It's a tradition.
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No, I mean, my one friend who went with me, he kind of helped plan the whole thing. He really likes camping, so for his birthday, he kind of makes everybody go. Yeah. Forces people to get on out there. And some are definitely more resistant than others, I'd say. We had two people this trip that prefer four walls.
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Sensible people.
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Yes. They have sense.
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I did see when I was just sort of scrolling the other day, a guy called. I think it was Craig, the caravan man.
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Oh.
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Who's a man called Craig. Who sells caravans. And I couldn't stop looking through all his caravans and, like, you know, like, small camping vans.
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Yep.
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I don't know whether I've romanticized it too much in my head. I love the idea.
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Yeah.
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They're not cheap, but I love the idea of getting, like, a van or something. You know, you've got, like, a little sink, got a little fridge, little bed. I think that'd be great.
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I know. Cause then you can just road trip and still be comfortable the whole time and not have to pay for lodging. It seems really nice.
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I honestly can't see a downside of it. And I try and convince myself in my head that I would spend that much on hotels anyway. So I'd actually be up, I think.
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So. I think it's possible. Well, you do a lot of shows all over the place, so this could be for you. I think it. It's. That's got to be paying off instantly, I think.
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I don't actually want to run the numbers because I suspect it wouldn't.
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No. No. But it's nice to say, isn't it?
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Yeah. I mean, maybe it's one of those where the thought is it's better just to have that romanticized view in my head. It's the coziness, I think.
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Yeah.
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Being in a van and having everything that you need in that one place and you can just.
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Mm.
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You can get away anywhere you need.
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A friend of a friend has one and he does. He rents it out frequently, too, which is kind of nice. It's like, you know, he's not using it for this week or this month. They rent it out, they take their little trip and then return it to him.
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That's not a bad idea. That'd help pay for it.
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I mean, I get a little claustrophobic. But the. The good part is you open your door, you're outside.
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Yes.
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Fresh air. Nothing. Nothing but space.
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Exactly. It would certainly help get. I can't believe I'M one of those people now. I'm obsessed with my steps now. Gotta get steps.
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Are you.
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I know. I don't. I don't like it either. I don't like it.
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It is not. I mean, it's just a fun little metric.
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I think that's what it is. It's not necessarily the health benefits. It's just I've managed to kind of gamify an aspect of my life and I need to hit that.
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I got made fun of. I mean, I've been learning a language on an app and the streak really works on me. It's like, you have to practice today or your streak will be interrupted. And I have 31 days of practicing. And I'm like, well, that's really important. I have to do my learning.
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Yeah.
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And it is that little kind of just something in your head. You go, it's gamified. I have to that now there's a number attached. It's fun.
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Streaks do really help. I think that's. Is it by any chance, without naming names of companies, is it a. If it's the same app? The icon for me now is a little owl that is dead.
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Okay. See, this is actually a competitor where it's a little blue cat. There's seemingly no other differences, but this one is just a blue cat versus a green owl.
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Okay.
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And the blue cat, it's just the one I chose. It's a new one.
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Interesting. And does the blue cat. Is it kind of. Is it cute enough to emotionally manipulate you into making sure you do the thing?
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No, but neither I find particularly cute. I don't find that owl, like, cute, per se.
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Well, did I find it cute? I felt bad when I was killing it, like, slowly. I know that really made me feel bad. But I also gave up. I didn't want to do it anymore.
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So it's quite gruesome. It's quite gruesome to kill the poor thing that you've grown attached to.
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Like, I understand what it's trying to do. I think it was. I hit the year 365 day streak.
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Wow.
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And then it was. I actually went to Germany.
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Yeah.
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And I tried to use some German. And it was literally just. It was a hot dog stand and I wanted a hot dog and chips. So I said brat first and frite or whatever it is.
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Yeah.
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And the woman behind the counter went, what? Bratwurst und frite. She went, what? I said, just sausage and chips, please.
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She goes, just say that next time.
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Yeah, just say it. So while I was trying to do the cultured thing. Don't bother.
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Just please save us all some time and headache. Don't.
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So as long as you're learning, that's the main thing. But just remember, you've actually got to take it in.
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Yeah. You really do have to get, like. It only works if you meet the slowest speaking person in that country. Because anytime I go, I'm like, oh, my God, please slow down. Please. I can't understand a word.
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What language are you going for at the moment?
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Well, I'm brushing up on Spanish. I'd say I'm conversational.
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Yeah. That's a fast language as well. That's impressive.
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Yeah. Yeah. I know most of the conversations. I know how to get along. But I've learned it, you know, a while ago now, and there wasn't much opportunity for me to keep it, you know, conversationally useful. So I'm brushing up just to make sure I don't lose all that knowledge. And I can remember some other things.
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I think that is the key, isn't it? Is you've got to go. And actually, ideally you just move to the place for six months, and then I think you'd be fluent pretty quick.
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I know. I do think that's it. I mean, I would love to. I'm trying to get a trip to Mexico City. I've heard it's so fun. Have you ever been there?
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I haven't been there. I've actually. A couple of my mates are going and I passed on the flights. It was for the World cup this summer.
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Oh, right.
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But I just had. I just got so much on and I really wanted to go.
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Yeah.
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And then the closer it got, the more I was like, oh, I'm gonna have to move so much stuff around. And I just couldn't do it in the end.
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So correct me if I'm wrong with World Cup. This is in multiple cities. True.
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Yes.
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The World Cup. Okay. Cause I was like, I think there's something in la.
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There is. Yeah. Yeah.
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Okay. Okay. Because my friend was. I was gonna be out of. And my friend was like, you should try and rent your house. Cause there's gonna be a lot of people that are looking for a place to stay cheap. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, okay, so it's la, Mexico City.
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I think our original trip was gonna be New York.
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Oh, there's events there, too.
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Yeah. And then it was from there to, I think from there to Mexico City.
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Okay.
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And then from there to San Francisco, then to Miami, and then.
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Wow. Oh, my goodness. Okay. I kind of see why you Passed. This is a lot of time.
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It is a lot. Yeah, it is a lot. And I do really want to go to a World cup properly like that. But it's. Yeah, I mean, just the cost is astronomical and it's just the time as well.
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Okay. And I have more questions on this because I'm not really a soccer head as much. So when in the World cup there's going to be just like one team that represents uk.
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England.
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England.
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There's England. Scotland have qualified as well. So Scotland will be there.
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And is that England team made up of like Arsenal? Like it's made up of a lot of different. Of your specific teams?
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No. So it's. It has to be. So the players have got to be from the like born in the country that they represent. There are different rules where it's like if you, if you've got a parent or a grandparent who was born in a different country, you can represent.
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Oh.
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Oh, wow. Yeah, you can represent it. But otherwise it's. It's basically you've got to be born in that country. So a lot of the best players in the Premier League for the English teams are from overseas. Wow. So, yeah, you don't. You only get the English players.
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Okay. But some surely are from Premier League.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, most of them play in the Premier League.
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Okay. So you got England, we've got Scotland. I assume US did something good.
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The us if you're a host, you automatically qualify. So they'll be in it.
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Convenient for us. Okay. And who usually really wins this? Is this mostly the like, does Brazil do well? Who's good at this?
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Brazil. They do normally do well. It also a lot of time it does favor a host nation. Oh, so that could be good for the us I think Brazil have won it more than anybody else.
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Okay.
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I don't really know. I've not had. I've not looked enough at the international football this time around. So I don't know who's going to be odds on favourite for it.
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It seems as if Brazil has won the most times with five total. And then Germany and then Italy have won four times. But Brazil hasn't won since 2002. So they're in a dry streak right now.
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But it's only every four years. So it's only five World Cups ago, Is that right? Five, six, I don't know.
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Okay.
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Yeah, it's been a little while. Yeah.
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Okay. Well, this is good. This is something I know very little about. I think, honest to goodness I could name truly maybe four soccer Players total.
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Go on.
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Messi.
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Yeah. Who plays for internationally.
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Oh, Argentina.
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Nailed it.
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Wow. Oh, my goodness.
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Wow.
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Okay. And then it's Messi's little counterpart is. It's kind of like you either like one or the other. Is it Ronaldo? And he plays for. Is that Brazil?
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Nope. But they do speak Portuguese. Yeah.
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Portugal.
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Yes.
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Wow. Okay, so we got Messi, we got Ronaldo then. Well. Nope. That'll be it, folks.
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That's not bad.
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Twos. I mean, those are the big ones.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Do you have a favorite?
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What?
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Player guy. Yeah,
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it's difficult for me. It's tough because I support a football team that's really low down the football pyramid in this country. So they're not well known. If Premier League is like level one, I support a team that's at level seven.
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Oh.
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So it's way, way, way down.
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Okay.
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So there's players that I love. I love our goalkeeper, Jack Harding.
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Okay.
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He's a part time footballer, full time electrician, but a great guy.
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Oh, my gosh. That's awesome.
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Yeah.
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Okay. That's really cool because then it's like, well, they got. They got a whole life that they're doing and they just happen to be really good at their sport.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's great.
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How many levels are there? Is 7 the lowest or the smallest teams?
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No, no, not at all. So in terms of semi professional, you get teams that. So our players might get paid £400 a week or there's teams in our league that have got loads of money who will pay a grand a week. It's crazy money. And then you could probably go down to level nine, 10, where players are still getting paid. And then below that you get feeder leagues where they won't be getting paid, but they're still like a good standard. It's like the biggest football pyramid in the world in terms of teams.
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Wow.
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Yeah. Because it's professional right down to step level five. That's all. They're all professional players. Yeah.
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Okay.
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I feel like you're going to get into this World Cup. This could be the beginning of something great for you.
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And I know we've talked about it very lovingly. It all just left my brain. It's all gone that quick. That's how fast I just. This sport, I liked playing it when I was a little kid. I mean, that's a nice. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel it. Everyone kind of plays a little when they're, when they're young, but that's about it.
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All right. Well, maybe I Mean, if I. I could dress up as a little blue cat or something. We won't break the streak. We'll talk about it every day. Well.
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And imagine how many steps you'd get playing football.
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Great point.
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It's a ton of steps.
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That is a ton of steps. And that is what everything revolves around now, is just my steps. Everything I do is for steps.
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We must feed the step God. We have to just take our steps. What do you shoot for? 20? 10.
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I should shoot for 20, shouldn't I? I aim for 10.
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10's very reasonable.
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Yeah. And if I get 8, I'll take it. But the average has got to be above 10, so I'm averaging about 11 and a half.
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That's really quite good.
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It's not bad, is it? I have noticed the sort of wider psychological benefits of just going outside for a walk.
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I hate when they're right. I really hate when those people are right because I love sitting indoors with only Diet Cokes. That would just be ideal. But they don't let me.
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They don't let you. And they'll gloat about it as well. Very quickly on that subject.
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Yeah.
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Did you know. Do you know what spongebob is called in Spanish? I should have said this earlier, but it's only just entered my head again.
B
Booba. Sponga, right?
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Yeah, I think, yeah. Baba Sponga, huh? Yeah. My girlfriend's in Spain at the moment. Sent me a picture of a mug with Bob a spongea on it because I love spongebob and big fan of that Baba Sponga.
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It's really good. Patrick might be Patricio. We don't know.
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Yeah, we can. We'll look into that next time.
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Squidward. No translation there.
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That's too complicated for now.
B
Well, I'm gonna be dreaming of all my new soccer knowledge. I'm gonna try and keep it in my head and I think next week I'll be ready for the Premier League.
A
I will hold you to that.
B
Yeah. It was lovely talking to you, Matt. Until next time and thank you to our lovely listeners. Good night.
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Good night. KP
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Sa. Sam sa. Sam. Sa.
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Date: April 27, 2026
Hosts: Matt Bragg (A), KP Parker (B)
Tonight's cozy episode of The Nightly meanders through camping stories, unexpected joys of model airplane clubs, the appeal of non-digital hobbies, vanlife dreams, gamification in everyday life, and a lighthearted dive into World Cup soccer. With Matt and KP’s playful banter and relatable insights, the episode is a gentle, witty lull for bedtime listening.
| Time | Topic/Highlight | |----------|------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:53 | Post-camping glow, arrival at model airplane club | | 01:49 | Comic take on club demographics | | 03:51 | Model airplane club’s generosity and cost breakdown | | 05:46 | Love for odd, tactile hobbies | | 06:12 | Joy of unplugged camping | | 08:25 | Daydreaming about camping vans & vanlife | | 09:51 | Step-tracking obsession begins | | 10:16 | Language app streaks and gamification | | 12:04 | Failed German at the bratwurst stand | | 15:03 | How World Cup teams are formed | | 18:09 | Matt’s favorite lower-league football team & players | | 20:01 | Steps as a daily motivator, psychological benefits of walking| | 21:02 | Discovering Spongebob's Spanish name “Bob Esponja” |
This episode of The Nightly showcases its signature charm: gentle humor, endearing digressions, and real invitations to slow down, try new things, and banter about life’s small wonders—whether that's joining a model airplane club, walking more steps, or brushing up on Spanish for a dream trip.