The Nightly – Kim Kardashian, Lily Allen & the Library

Podcast: The Nightly (Hatch Podcasts)
Airdate: December 5, 2025
Hosts: Josh & kp

Episode Overview

On this cozy late-night episode, Josh and kp unwind in the Hatch Pillow Fort for their signature blend of friendly banter and soothing pop culture chat. Tonight, they tackle the internet chatter around Ryan Murphy’s new show All’s Fair—with Kim Kardashian as the lead—and reflect on Lily Allen’s surprise new album, West End Girl. In between, they share personal stories, debate the value of camp versus boredom in TV, and drop cozy recommendations for winding down (hello, libraries and Wingstop).

Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Catch-Up: Jolliness, Libraries, and Board Games

• [00:41–04:44] Hosts Check In
  • kp is feeling “jolly” after socializing and a marathon board game night, interrupted by surprise dog kisses during the mystery phase.
  • Josh recounts a drawn-out car trip turned podcast marathon, and recounts a night out seeing comedian Natalie Palamides perform a two-character, one-woman show.
• [04:01–04:44] Library as a Community Oasis
  • kp describes the newfound joy in visiting a local library, mostly to steal some peaceful time (and use the printer):
    • “I’m kind of just...I’m printerless at the moment...it was just an errand. And then now I’m like, well, I’m having fun just sitting with my computer...” [04:30]

2. The Nightly Pop Culture Update

All’s Fair Review: Kim Kardashian, Camp, and Catastrophe

• [05:15–15:13] Deep Dive into Ryan Murphy’s Latest
  • kp and friends watched three episodes of All’s Fair (Rotten Tomatoes Score: 5% at time of recording).
  • Main takeaways:
    • Despite expectations, Kim Kardashian isn’t the worst actor in the show; Naomi Watts gives a surprisingly wooden performance, while Glenn Close and Sarah Paulson seem underused.
    • The show’s main failure? Mistaking “camp” (over-the-top, fun, subversive) for simply being outlandish—without actually being interesting.
    • Visuals and costumes (“power suit with a window cutout showing her thong”) are wild, but the plot never delivers energy or intrigue.
    • There’s an over-reliance on music video sequences and big-hit soundtracks, echoing kp’s complaint about other recent shows (“Summer I Turned Pretty”).
    • Jessica Simpson guest stars as a rock star’s wife in a full facial prosthetic for a subplot about bad plastic surgery.
  • Memorable Quotes:
    • “I think it’s getting every percent it deserves.” – kp on the 5% Rotten Tomatoes score [05:44]
    • “She’s saying the words in a way that a human would say them.” – kp on Kim Kardashian’s acting [07:49]
    • “The whole thing reads sort of like a car commercial where you’re like, okay, you’ve shown me some images...you’ve spoken into a microphone...and then Sarah Paulson is in it.” – kp [14:07]
    • “Anything preposterous can be camp if it’s exciting. This one, unfortunately...it’s boring.” – kp [13:38]
    • “She’s gotta go. She’s gotta quit midseason, ruin the contract, because she’s just too good for this show. I go, don’t put her on here. I feel bad for her.” – kp on Sarah Paulson [14:20]
  • Consensus: The show is little more than fun with friends: “It really benefited by watching with pals...We had Wingstop delivered. So I have no complaints about the whole evening.” – kp [14:58–15:09]

Lily Allen’s Return: West End Girl

• [15:13–19:51] Musical Reflection
  • Josh introduces Lily Allen’s new album, West End Girl, her first in seven years. The album is a (fictionalized) telling of her divorce from actor David Harbour, chronicling a relationship unraveling amid jealousy and open-marriage rule-breaking.
  • Key insights:
    • Both love that the album is a true “narrative arc” (kp: “I like that it tells a story.” [16:28])
    • Josh’s favorite tracks are “less narrative”—impressionistic songs like “Sleepwalking.”
    • Both note that Lily Allen has retained her signature sound, which feels true to her earlier career.
    • Comparing Allen’s comeback favorably to other pop stars’ career shifts (e.g., Katy Perry, Taylor Swift), they value the sense of authenticity and artistic intent behind the album.
    • The rarity and creative power of artists returning after years away is celebrated.
  • Notable Quotes:
    • “I used to listen to her in high school...What I was struck with listening to this was she still sounds like—this is so clearly her sound still.” – kp [17:26]
    • “It’s cool to see that a creative career doesn’t just have to be up and up and up and up or it’s over. It can be...ebbs and flows and have this big kind of creative breakthrough years and years into her career.” – Josh [18:14]
    • “She’s not like the most reliable narrator in some of these songs, which...is also cool.” – kp [19:14]
    • kp plans to do a proper listen on her next “16 mile” LA drive.

Notable Moments & Quotes with Timestamps

• [05:15] kp: “This new Ryan Murphy show, All’s Fair, has a zero percent on Rotten Tomatoes. …It has bumped up to a 5%.”
• [07:08] kp: “So the majority of the acting prowess is falling on [Kim Kardashian].”
• [09:24] kp (on Kim’s lawyer costume): “She turns around, there’s a window cutout showing her thong. …Never seen something like that in my entire life.”
• [13:38] kp: “It is preposterous. But it’s also…the cardinal sin is…it’s boring, which is very un–Ryan Murphy.”
• [16:28] kp: “I like that it tells a story. I think albums telling a story is so…there’s something very satisfying about it.”
• [18:14] Josh: “It’s cool to see that a creative career doesn’t just have to be up and up and up and up or it’s over…It can be, like, ebbs and flows and have this big kind of creative breakthrough years and years into your career.”

Key Timestamps for Segments

• [00:41] Cozy banter and personal updates
• [04:56] What’s new in pop culture? (pivot to TV discussion)
• [05:15–15:13] Deep dive: All’s Fair review and “nightgeist” chat
• [15:13–19:51] Lily Allen’s West End Girl album reaction
• [19:51–20:23] Wind-down and bedtime transition

Tone & Style

The episode maintains the podcast’s comforting, witty, and slightly irreverent late-night tone. Both hosts are warm, conversational, and quick with gentle sarcasm and pop culture asides. The whole effect is designed to make you feel like you’re in a low-key living room hang—with plenty of gentle laughs and zero edge.

Summary

In this episode, Josh and kp offer an honest (and hilarious) review of All’s Fair, highlighting its wild aesthetic and lackluster script. The “so bad it’s almost good” vibe sparked a fun group watch but left the hosts hoping for more from Ryan Murphy’s usual flair. The conversation shifts to Lily Allen’s new album—an impressive, narrative-driven comeback—reminding listeners that creative careers can flourish in unexpected ways. All interspersed with cozy personal stories, library recommendations, and the comforting rhythms of pop culture bedtime talk.

Perfect for:
Anyone wanting the inside scoop on buzzy new shows and albums, served with warmth, wit, and a dose of late-night relaxation.