D (2:33)

Apparently they design pillows for side sleepers where it's kind of cut out a little bit in the middle so that when you turn on your side, it cradles your neck a little bit more than a regular pillow does. And I gotta say, it works incredibly.

C (2:45)

It does.

A (2:46)

I have one as well, and it works.

D (2:48)

You have one too? Yeah. It's really great.

C (2:51)

Can I ask more about this cooling effect of this pillow? Yes.

D (2:54)

I don't understand the science.

C (2:57)

Do you refrigerate the pillow first? Do you plug it in?

D (3:00)

No, it's Some sort of magic fabric that they've designed that somehow retains a temperature that is so much cooler than my normal sheets. I don't understand the magic behind it, but I accept it. And it's been really amazing for me and really sort of indicative of a, you know, an era of life and age. Not something I would have considered in my 20s, let's say, but I turned 40 this last year, and so I do feel like this is where I'm investing in myself. Seriously, my sleep accessories.

A (3:39)

Grace, you're doing it right. You're doing it right. You're doing it big.

D (3:42)

Thank you.

A (3:42)

Have you ever heard the phrase, there's this sportscaster back in the day on espn, his name was Stuart Scott, and he would always say, like, very fun, like, catchphrases. And his most popular one was, and look at Michael Jordan as cool as the other side of the pillow. That was always his. That was, like, his number one phrase. And like, I've never under. And I understand the phrase, but, like, I've always. Because anybody gets that. You don't hear that. We don't talk about that. But we all get. The other side of the pillow is always so much cooler.

D (4:20)

And for whatever. For whatever reason, this pillow that is specifically for cooling on both sides feels like the other side of the pillow.

A (4:28)

I need to.

D (4:29)

It's incredible.

A (4:30)

I need to find out what this pillow is. I need it. I need it.

D (4:33)

The future is yours.

C (4:35)

It sounds like you don't have to be over 40 to appreciate this pillow, too. You can just live in a summertime sort of climate or just, you know, that few months a year where it's too humid and too hot. Have a pillow like that.

D (4:47)

Equal opportunity cooling.

A (4:48)

Equal opportunity. But you know what? All three of us are in the 40 range. So this is for us.

D (4:57)

This is for us. Yeah. I also. I have never realized until the last few years how much I depend on a white noise machine while I'm sleeping. It really has made a difference. If things are too quiet, I cannot sleep.

A (5:12)

Yeah. All you got is your thoughts.

D (5:13)

Yeah.

A (5:16)

Just your thoughts.

D (5:16)

Dangerous. Dangerous. What do you. What do you guys do for sleeping? What's your, like, must have sleep situation? Yeah.

A (5:25)

Well, mine is a mini body pillow, so it's about half the size of my body. So I can, like, snuggle. I can cuddle it like the beautiful queen. Like the beautiful queen that it is. And then. And then it, like, goes down to my knees, which is just perfect enough. And it's great.

C (5:45)

Yes.

D (5:45)

Because as a side sleeper, I have a Separate knee pillow. That is specifically so my knobby knees don't clank each other at night.

C (5:53)

I'm amazed. You two just have, like, a whole setup in your beds. Like a whole system.

A (5:59)

We do.

C (6:00)

Wow.

A (6:00)

What do you have, Kristin? We've talked about this before, but I always forget because we talk about sleep a lot. What do you have? Like, that's special.

C (6:09)

I don't need anything fancy, but something that we did invest in in the past few years in my household. Blackout curtains.

A (6:17)

Oh, yeah.

C (6:18)

They make such a difference in New York. Cause there's always some sort of light coming in from businesses, from street lights, from helicopters, who knows what. So I have to say that blackout curtains have been a game changer in our household. We love them.

D (6:34)

Amazing.

A (6:35)

100%. I gotta sleep. I gotta be. If I could sleep in a coffin, I would.

C (6:41)

No light at all. No motion, no light.

A (6:44)

Like, just give me the most. Cause these coffins be looking comfortable, man. Just pillows all over you. You just gotta be dead in it. So I need the live. I just need. I need the live coffins.

C (6:55)

Yeah.

D (6:56)

It's basically what we're slowly putting together for ourselves. It's just this padding around us. Pretty much total darkness.

C (7:02)

There's a reason why Dracula was never sleep deprived. We never heard about Dracula complaining about sleep deprivation.

A (7:08)

Dracula was well rested all the time, would wake up and immediately start going.

D (7:13)

REM sleep every night.

A (7:15)

He ain't need to stre at. She ain't need to. He just wake up and start flying around. Man, he knew. He knew.

C (7:36)

Grace, we've been having so much fun with our bedtime routine talk. Can we just continue the fun with a little game? All right.

A (7:43)

Yay.

D (7:43)

I would love that. Love games.

C (7:45)

So we're gonna call this Sleepy Debate Club, where we debate a silly topic. And Jacqueese, you are going to argue against the first statement, and I'll be forced to defend it. And Grace, I'm sorry, but you're Judge Judy here. You gotta decide who wins this debate. You can be Judge Joe Brown. You can be whatever judge you want to. You have to decide who is right. All right. So the first topic up for debate, this statement, Sleeping with socks on is perfectly acceptable. Jacques, you have to tear this statement apart. I have to defend it, and Grace has to decide who's right. So again, that sleeping with socks on is perfectly acceptable. Let's hear you prove this statement wrong.

A (8:33)

Oh, yeah.

B (8:34)

Wow.

A (8:34)

This is easy. Easy. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. What does the natural bed look like? You got A mattress, if you are not in college anymore, you got a bottom sheet and a top sheet, and then you also have. You also have the comforter on top. My toes need to breathe, all right? And feet. And your feet need to be taken special care of, because there are a lot of things when you know that aren't. If the feet aren't right, the sleep ain't right. Like, for instance, if my feet fall off the back mattress and then a monster's under the bed can touch them, I can't sleep. I can't sleep like that. You know, my feet gotta be on the bed. I can be. My whole body can be off the bed, but if my feet are on the bed, I can be sleeping. And so why am I covering those special things? You know, if I got the cooling pillow, then would I look like having, like, feet warmers on, you know, on the bottom of my feet? I need the top and the bottom to be cool. I need the top and the bottom to be free. I need the top and the bottom to be just like wig with no fabric besides the fabric that the mattress calls for. Sleeping with socks is what Dexter from that Showtime show does. All right, that's. That's.

C (9:57)

Some might say Dexter's a hero, but.

A (9:59)

But, but, But Dexter's profession.

D (10:03)

That's a different debate.

C (10:05)

Yes, that's a different debate. All right, so that is.

A (10:08)

That's my take. That's my take.

D (10:10)

Okay? Some great points were made.

C (10:13)

All right, so that means it's my turn to come to the defense of socks in bed. Sleeping with socks on. So first things first. I just have to address the monsters under the bed. Jacquees. If you have socks on, that's one additional layer of protection against the monsters. And why not protect the feet with one more defense? Why not? So that's one. Number two, I was just reading a study the other day. It wasn't really me reading a study. It was a headline. And I think the study only included, like, 12 people. But in this particular study, it said that people, on average, fell asleep seven minutes faster if they had socks on than if they didn't. I don't know how many people were in this study or how legitimate it is, but I did see that headline. So let's presume that headline is right. And third, I hope this isn't a little too spicy for this show. It might be a little too spicy for our. But there have also been studies showing that a lady with socks on. I'm a lady if I have socks on. If maybe some Friskiness happens in the bed. Socks help a woman to achieve more satisfaction. So, you know, and again, I know this argument is about sleeping, not about getting frisky, but let's say friskiness happens. That sometimes happens in a bed. Socks can help. So there we go. Two scientific studies in finger quotes and one argument about further defense against monsters.

A (11:50)

Wow. Grace, may I counter argument some of these things?

D (11:55)

Absolutely, Absolutely.

A (11:58)

Now, I get what you're saying about the socks and the monsters. If there's a monster under the bed, I want to know right away because I need to know if I need to defend myself. I need to defend the honor of the person next to me, if somebody is next to me, or I need to know if I need to get up out of that bed and run out the house. You know, and if I got a layer, you know, if somebody touched your foot and then they touch the sock first, that's an extra second that I don't have to waste. I need that layer gone so I know the monsters are there immediately. Immediately. All right, so that's. That's. That's the one. And then for that last point, I'm not going to argue against that. You know, I'm not going to argue against that. We can. We could take the socks off after the time. We could take the socks off after the frisky time anyhow.

C (12:41)

Grace. Yes.

D (12:43)

Okay.

C (12:43)

Wow. We'll let you weigh in here.

D (12:45)

Yeah. Some really incredible points made across the board. I think Kristin came from the side of science and data, quote unquote. Jacquis came from Vibes. And I'm trying. Well, here's the deal. I have a pretty strong opinion about socks in the bed, and I'm a big anti sock wearer in the bed. Feet, to me, are almost like a barometer. They're how you control your body temperature in a bed. You can stay warm under the covers, but when you get hot in the middle of the night, kicking out a foot from underneath the blanket and letting it get cold to cool down the rest of your body is just such a. And to Jacquees's point, I do think that the bed comes with a lot of fabric already. You could say it is of itself a sock that we are putting our bodies into at night. So it might be redundant to then put on another sock. So I'm sorry, Kristen. I did appreciate. I learned a lot. I will say, and I thank you for the knowledge, but I'm gonna have to go with Jacques on this.

C (14:07)

Okay, I understand. And you know what? Sometimes vibes win over what might be questionable science. Sometimes it happens.

A (14:15)

Sometimes it happens.

C (14:15)

Sometimes.

D (14:16)

I appreciate your understanding.

C (14:26)

All right, let's get into the second topic. And, Grace, do you want to judge at this time or do you want to duke it out over this, this next one?

D (14:36)

I mean, I love judging.

C (14:39)

Okay.

D (14:42)

I've never been able to say that with conviction before, but yeah, I love judging. As long as you don't mind defending.

C (14:49)

Oh, not at all. And in this case, Jacquees, you are going to defend this statement. You're going to have to defend this one. The statement is, it's okay to watch a TV show on your own that your partner started with you. Your job is to defend that statement. My job is to prove you wrong. And then Grace's job is to decide who did a better job with her argument. So, Jacquis, let's hear you talk about why cheating is.

A (15:17)

Okay, okay, okay. Let me tell you. Let me tell you a little something about relationships. Kristen and Grace, when you're in a relationship with me, we. We share things. You know, we share. We share life, we share ideas, we share dreams, we share hopes. And we also share streaming services, passwords, you know what I'm saying? And the thing that we can't do is if we start a show together, I can't have you, like, skipping ahead because.

C (15:50)

Oh, no, you're defending that it's okay to skip ahead and cheat on your.

A (15:53)

Oh, I'm defending that it's okay.

C (15:55)

Oh, yeah, you're saying it's okay.

A (15:57)

Okay, rewind all of that. Rewind all of that. Let me tell you now, when you're in a relationship, sometimes you need to do things on your own. Sometimes you. Cause you sharing so much. You sharing so much that sometimes you need your own space. All right? Sometimes you need to do things for yourself because that's healthy, you know, you can't be sharing everything. You can't be sharing all your time. You can't be sharing every physical item you have together because then you grow tired and absence makes the heart grow fonder, right? So if I'm watching a television show with you and we started together, that's a beautiful thing. But say, for instance, I'm like, I'm sitting on the couch and, like, you doing work or you're out, you're doing something, and I just wanna, like, watch a little tv. Like, I can have that time to myself. And then the cool thing about that is we can decide, you know, you gonna catch up? How about a date for episode five? How about a date for the season finale? You know, you can plan dates and then you can get the popcorn ready. Because if it just becomes ho hum, oh, so and so is on, then, you know, like, it loses its specialness. Right? It loses its specialness. And the thing about sharing, the thing about sharing that makes sharing special is you get to decide what you want to share and what you don't want to share. If I'm forced to share every episode with you, I don't even like the show no more. I don't wanna watch the show. I'm forced to watch it now. Right. I think it's okay if you skip ahead as long as you decide so and so. So and so episode we can watch together. If you are not on the same wavelength as far as the episodes are tracking, that's my take and I'm sticking to it.

C (17:54)

Wow, Jacqueese, you are so good at this that you almost had me convinced that cheating is okay. When I know, when the listeners know, when Grace knows that cheating is not. O. Okay. This is not how things work. We start something together, we finish it together. I'm going to use an analogy that will speak to you, Jacques, as somebody who loves theme parks. Hey, Jacques, what do you say we go to Euro Disney together? Okay, sure. So we start off together. We're riding the teacups. And then I'm like, I know you want to go to Space Mountain. See ya. I'm doing Space Mountain without you. And then I'm going to ride the Matterhorn. Is that what it's called? And then I'm gonna go into that haunted castle. I'm gonna do all of this stuff. And then later on, I might run into you over by the gift shop and I'll tell you all the great things I did. And meanwhile, this whole time, you were still waiting at the teacups. Cause you thought I was kidding. Oh, no. I just left. And I had a great time. I enjoyed the whole theme park. I can tell you about every inch of this theme park. And you were trying to be loyal and waiting at the teacups for me. Don't you feel bad now. You feel really bad.

A (18:59)

Nah. Cause I had churros and you know, you gotta let your.

C (19:02)

You gotta.

A (19:03)

You gotta let your food digest, you know, So I wasn't trying to get on Space Mountain.

D (19:08)

I get it.

B (19:08)

I get it.

A (19:08)

You know?

C (19:09)

Yeah. You bring a date to Disney, you wanna enjoy Disney with them. You want the shared experiences. You wanna laugh together, squeal together, turn to each other at certain Moments. Roll your eyes. Can you believe what that person just did?

D (19:22)

Ah.

C (19:23)

You know, part of the experience of watching a show together is the journey of watching the show, turning to each other, having those magic moments, making inside jokes. So much of relationship building is world building, inside jokes, those little bits and pieces that you have between the two of you, a shared language. And when you just jump ahead or leave one person behind at the teacups or they're still on episode one and you finish all the seasons of Game of Thrones, you missed out on all of that relationship building, all of that insider language, inside jokes, connection, shared experience, shared history, shared memory building. Plus, you betrayed somebody you loved. So that's my argument about why it's not okay to just run off and leave your other half and finish a show that you started with them.

A (20:18)

Okay, all right, all right.

D (20:20)

Okay. Wow. Again, great points on both sides. But, Kristen, that sentence, relationship building is world building.

A (20:31)

Oh, my gosh.

D (20:32)

That's so beautiful. That's so profound. And I really resonate with it. So I'm sorry, Jacquees, I have to give it to Kristen this time around because I do think part of the joy of watching a program with a partner or a friend or someone else is that you do get to share in the nuance. You get to see things from their perspective that maybe you missed. There are the shared experiences. Experience of it, I think, is a part of the beauty of consuming content in and of itself. So I'm so sorry, but, Kristen, I'm going with you this time.

A (21:09)

Yay. I get it.

C (21:10)

But you know what that means. Grace, you so generously and so kindly made sure Jacquis and I were both winners today.

D (21:17)

So I did. Yeah.

C (21:18)

That was nice of you. I just got to say that was really, really sweet of you. As our guest listeners, by the way, feel free to give us your thoughts on the topics that we debated tonight. We want to hear from you. If you actually think it's okay to cheat on your partner, let us know. If you're in Jacob.

A (21:37)

Or if you. Or if you find not sharing everything. You know what I'm saying? Just because we ain't sharing everything, you know?

C (21:46)

Yeah. Or if you just exposed your bare feet to the monsters or if you wear protective socks, let us know.

D (21:51)

There you go. There you go.

C (21:53)

You can reach out to us at the nightly hatch. Grace, before we let you go, is there anything our listeners should be checking out that you have been working on a place where they can get more of your delightfulness, your well measured and balanced opinions.

D (22:11)

Oh, absolutely. Well, I have a YouTube channel, YouTube.com Grace Helbig. And also I'm doing some live comedy shows coming up in the next few weeks and you can look at my Instagram. Just reace Helbig for all the dates and all the tickets links that will be there. Yeah, really, really fun stuff. If you like silly, sweet comedy, come on down.

A (22:35)

Yes.

C (22:36)

That's definitely something our listeners love. Yes. And Grace, before we all turn in, we'd love to ask our guests to give a special good night shout out. So who would you like to wish a good night to tonight?

D (22:51)

I'd like to wish good night to all of the people out there that are maintaining their sense of sweetness and their sen silliness in a world that can sometimes be less sweet and less silly. So I think for all of those that are staying true to their sweet, silly selves, may you get a delicious night of sleep.

A (23:14)

That's beautiful.

C (23:14)

That is so sweet. It's so easy to be wound up and bitter and angry, but to keep that sweetness and optimism.

D (23:22)

Absolutely. Best you can.

A (23:24)

That was beautiful. Well, listen to all the silly sweethearts out there. Good night to you and to both of you. This has been lovely. I'm going to sleep so well tonight. So good night, Grace and good night, Krista.

C (23:36)

Good night, Grace. Good night, Chiquis.

D (23:39)

Good night. Good night.

B (24:46)

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