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Hello. You're about to drift into an episode of the Nightly, a podcast designed to help you unwind and relax. For the full phone free immersive light experience, visit Hatch Co. Enjoy. Hello and good evening. Good evening, everyone. I'm Josh.
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And I'm kp. Welcome to the Nightly from Hatch, a slumber party for pop culture lovers.
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Kp, how are you? It's so nice to see you.
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It's really so nice to see you. I'm doing lovely. I'm recovered from a small cold, which I think everybody passed all around, but I'm recovered.
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That's an incredible feeling.
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So if you're not recovered, there's hope and there's light and I'm living proof.
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You, you're like an inspiration, I think, to people with a little cold.
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I know. I'm trying to get my face and voice out there just so people have that, you know, real symbol.
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Using your platform for advocacy is so important.
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Yeah. So that's what I've been doing is just spreading the good word that life is good over here. What are you up to?
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Oh, my gosh. You know, what I did this last few days that I'm really, like, proud of myself for is sometime sometimes I feel like if I have an hour, I'll be like, an hour. Who gets something done in an hour? And I'll either goof around or do a one minute chore and be like, well, hour accomplished, of course. But I've been using that pocket of time or those pockets of time really nicely this week where it's like, oh, I have this thing. I can't sit down and get to work yet on this thing. Really dig in. But I can start making notes and doing some informative reading. And I've really been pretty on top of that, which makes me feel like kind of a different person than usual. Yeah.
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I had a similar thing where something shifted and I reframed my thinking on declutter and clean also, which was like, I think sometimes I get in the zone where I'm like, okay, I'm gonna focus on dishes today. But then I'll see something and I'll be like, okay, well, I'll put that away when it's time to do the putting away part. But this week I went, just do whatever it is when you see it. Yeah, just move the thing into the closet right when you see it. Even if it's not closet day.
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Yeah. And it's. I'm a little. I'm like a little bit of a slob, but it's not Just that, like, I'm a slob. It's that truly like there could be a felled tree branch in my living room through no fault of my own. And I would like step over it every time until someone was like, does that just stay there? And I'd be like, oh, right, I should do something about that.
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I forgot it ever. There was a time before it.
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Yeah. I just thought part of getting up from the couch was stepping over the giant log covered in moss and snails.
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Yeah. I can clutter myself quick. I think you and I have spoken. We're both. We have some nostalgia things that tug at us at times. Yeah. And it's hard because with nostalgia comes clutter.
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I'm really taking that wisdom in. With nostalgia comes clutter. That is like people, like more people should say that. And they should credit you.
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Wow, I'm really an icon today with the colds getting rid of. And now a quote.
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Okay, earlier I was teasing a little bit, but this time I'm really serious. I think that's such a good thing to remember.
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I do feel that, well, some people, they have good enough memories that with nostalgia perhaps doesn't come clutter because they remember things really well. But I'm ephemeral. I like need to see those items to remind me. So I think for me at least for sure, with nostalgia comes clutter.
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Yeah, totally agreed. I'm the same type of person. I'm like clustal. Just
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I was thinking the other day too, I'm really getting us on tangents here.
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But no, that's okay. We got time.
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Memories that have like a photo attached are obviously, I think, so much more likely to enter a longer term part of the brain.
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Yeah.
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Where it's like, oh, yeah, I remember my fourth birthday party where I went to Chuck E. Cheese. Because you have seen the pictures of the 4th birthday party where you went to Chuck E. Cheese.
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You know, and maybe you fill in some of the memory around that.
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Yeah, yeah. You're like, oh, that green shirt reminds me of this. Reminds me of this. Whatever. But I was thinking how hard it must have been for people pre photos. Yeah. Like medieval times. Because it is like, oh, yeah, you would just kind of sometimes your brother or mother would, you know, go away or pass away. And then you'd be like, yeah, I actually just don't remember what they look like because where would I have put a picture of them?
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You'd have to hire an artisan to paint you by the fireside.
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And you hope it's not a caricature artist. You hope.
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That would be so offensive. If you're like, please paint my family portrait. My mother has consumption. And then you get like, she's got
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a big nose,
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huge gap between her teeth, and you're like, she's self conscious, and she just has that much longer to live. Why'd you do that?
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Now, even with consumption, she wants to look gorgeous. Please.
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Yeah.
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Or you get one of the medieval portrait artists that paints cats all weird, and you're like, do you mind just painting my cat? Like an actual cat? Paint it regular, not with human nose.
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Can I pay you extra to paint it regular?
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Hey, are we looking at the same animal right now?
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What does portrait mean to you? Cause to me, it means paint the thing that's there.
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Look like it. Cause I'm looking at a cat on hind legs with a sword in its little human hands. That doesn't seem right to me.
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And my cat does that so rarely that it's not worth painting.
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It's not part of his personality. Please.
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Yeah. It was an outlier the one time he did that.
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So this is what I was thinking where I'm grateful for my clutter sometimes because I go, oh, what a blessing it is to be able to have items to look back upon.
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Kp, that is such a great transition into what I wanted to talk to you about. Because sometimes on this show, right, to feel a little better about some, maybe, like, little hiccups we've been experiencing, we air our grievances as we kind of festivus style. And usually we'll talk about some small annoyances. We let off some steam, and we feel better afterwards. But this week, I thought it would be really fun to air some gratitudes, like, to really think about the nice things amidst, like, you know, it's been maybe a stressful time for some people. Winter's dragging on. So, like, let's think about some things that we're grateful for and talk about those instead of just scratching the itch of complaint.
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I love that I'm feeling in a really grateful mood, so you've caught me on a good day.
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Outstanding. Other than your clutter, is there something you've been feeling grateful for lately?
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Well, my gratitude actually is almost the opposite, so I like all ends of the spectrum, but I was feeling really grateful for, you know, that beautiful feeling of being unpacked after a trip.
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Yeah.
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Cause it's such a sometimes a little bit of an uphill moment to get yourself unpacked after a fun time away. I recently kind of unpacked in a really normal amount of time I got everything put away and I got the suitcase put in the back of the closet. And that feeling of knowing where everything is and being able to get it all out of the suitcase and out of my vision, that feels really nice. I'm feeling really gratituded for that.
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That's a really nice feeling.
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Yeah.
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My wife Maris is so good at unpacking. We get home from a trip, she greets the dog, she immediately starts putting things away. I'm like, I don't care if it's a red eye. And we got home at 8am I'll be like, that's a job for tomorrow.
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And then tomorrow's lucky. I go, that's a job for Thursday. I don't know, we'll see.
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And then by that point, the suitcase is just a big mossy log that I'm stepping over.
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Yes. I have found out my technique is, you know, it's in a giant suitcase. And then I'll unpack about half the suitcase. And then I'll go, ugh, I just want the suitcase off of the couch or off of the bed or off of the floor. I'll move that big pile of things in the suitcase into a smaller box that I have somewhere. Then now that box, I go, I'm sick of this box. I'll move it into sort of a shoebox size. So I found that smalling my container of mess has been kind of nice for me.
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I have never heard of this technique.
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I don't think it's good or it works, but, you know, it's what I'm doing. That's why you haven't heard of it.
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Okay. Because it's ineffective.
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Yeah. It's not. You know, you should just sort of, if you're sick of the suitcase being on there, get it done. But I go, well, what about a smaller box?
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Do you. Okay. When you're talking about unpacking, I kind of don't feel fully done. And maybe this is a new can of worms, but I don't feel fully unpacked until I've done like the load of post trip laundry.
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Yes. Which I just did. I totally agree. And that's why I'm feeling really actually unpacked. So this is true.
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Yeah. Oh, that's such a good feeling.
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Mm. It's really good. So that's my real gratitude. I had one little bonus.
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If we have the time, please give me the bonus. Grat.
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The bonus is feeling really gratitudinal for living near just animal life. It just feels nice to still at this age of building things out in the world that I get to see little animals in my day to day. I don't know that maybe. And living in a city, it's rare to see these animals. So when I do get to see them, like today, there was a lizard outside my door.
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That's cool.
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I think that's cool. I think we grow accustomed to it. You know what's funny? I feel like everyone has. America is so large and everyone sort of has these things that they can see out their window that they're like, oh, that's just normal. Like in Florida, they're like, yeah, and there's just iguanas everywhere. And you're like, oh, that's their pigeons.
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I. I am always, like floored when I'm in Florida.
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Yeah.
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And there's just like salamanders and iguanas all over the place up in the trees and stuff.
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Yeah.
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I'm. I'm like pointing them out to people and they're like, yeah. They're like, yeah. The tree also has leaves, idiot.
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Or like back home in Northeast, I think probably you in Mass. Sometimes they'll just be sort of a gaggle of turkeys sometimes.
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Oh, yeah.
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Walking around in that time of year. And you're like, yeah, yeah. They're just giant birds. But it is funny that it's like, what would be so rare to somebody else is like, yeah, just ignore them. To the people that live local.
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Talking about turkeys again. Another visitor. Talking turkeys.
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Yes. So I'm grateful. Over here, I saw lizard. There's a lovely honeybee colony that just moved in. I'll have to eventually call somebody to get them moved, relocated. But for now, I'm enjoying the time.
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All right.
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And then here's my maybe not as gratitude 1. I am on a thoroughfare for raccoons. My bedroom window is on the highway, seemingly of raccoon.
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Oh, raccoon highway. Yeah.
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I90 for these raccoons right outside my door.
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My favorite Beatles song, Raccoon Highway.
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There's something occurring where it's at 12:47am it is time for every raccoon to go back home from their job through my door.
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So you're right on the raccoon commute.
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I know they're busy feeding their families, but it is that I do have to solve where I go. Yesterday I caught him in the act. But the biggest raccoon I ever did see, up to my knees, I would say he's huge. I saw a full bear. I'm like, this is great.
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This raccoon is taller than I am.
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Honest to God. I know. It was pug sized and beyond. I think it was huge. And he's coming down my fence like he owns the place, like he pays the rent.
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Are they loud?
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I mean it is just a. It's a rustling that you'd prefer not to have in the middle of the night. It's one of those rustle free times that you usually you hope for.
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I don't like a surprising night wrestle.
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No daytime rustles. I go, eh, we're all wrestling. I'm wrestling.
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Yeah, right. Every day I'm wrestling.
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Every day I'm wrestling. So I don't know, we're gonna have to figure it out. I might just blast the beautiful orange noise on my hatch a little louder.
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Oh yeah.
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Which I love.
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Is orange your favorite noise?
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Orange is my favorite noise. It's close to airplane cabin hum, which I'm always chasing.
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Oh, I kind of like that too.
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I love an airplane cabin hum.
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It's probably the best sensory part of being in an airplane.
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Agree, but if it were just that, you'd be, you know, chuffed. But it's usually with the airplane cabin comes a lot of other human noises.
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Your knees are all squished too. A lot of not ideal sensory inputs.
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No, but you take what you can get. Well, speaking of taking what we can get and being grateful, do you have some gratitudes for me?
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I do have a couple gratitudes.
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Okay.
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Number one, I've been seeing a lot of friends lately. I've been like traveling a lot and it's like exhausting. And I feel sometimes like I'm a little unplugged from my friends at home, you know, like my neighborhood friends, et cetera. It sounds like I play a lot of stickball, but you know, just the people I see on the regular when I'm home. But it's been really nice to go around the country and like try to make time and have a coffee with a friend or just like take a walk with someone while, while I'm in town for work. And it's been so nice. I did. I'm like kind of embarrassed. Not like embarrassingly, but maybe notably. I'm like a big birthday celebrator of my own birthday.
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Oh, nice. I love that. I try and do the same. I love it.
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Yeah. And two years ago we had like a nice dinner out with just a small group. And then last year I threw a big party. And then this year, because that last year was like a big number birthday for me. And this year Slightly bigger number, but less round number. So I this year, small number. I turned four this year.
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Something weird is happening.
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It's not even a Benjamin Button. Like every year kind of is its own thing.
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It's not Benjamin Button. I'm just bad at math. The numbers are getting smaller.
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The numbers are getting smaller. Oh, you know what it is? I put my calendar upside down.
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There it is. Okay, guys, we're back up.
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But when I was out of town for my birthday and just did an out of town birthday party, which I don't think I've ever done before.
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Yeah, I did that last year. I did an out of town and it was nice to have a little small, smaller celebration too.
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Yeah, really fun. So it's been really cool. You know, sometimes friends have kids, they don't travel maybe as much as they used to. And it's like I met a college friend's baby in December, which was so cool. We just hung out with the three of us.
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Did you guys have good vibes together?
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We did. I really vibed with this baby. Yeah, I'm like writing this into a script now. But another bad quality that I have is I always want every baby to like me the best.
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Of course, of course. Well, I'm sure it's. Usually you can get them some babies though. They're just like, I'm serious this year. I'm not joking around. I'm brand new.
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My friend's toddler, who I haven't seen her probably six months, but my friend's toddler truly has no time for my nonsense.
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Yeah, some are serious.
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She's very serious. And especially towards me. Like maybe there are other people that she's a little more playful with. They'll blow bubbles, they'll around at the park or whatever. But when I see her, I'm like, hey, how's it going? And she's like, mm, mm. I know what you're doing.
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I know your tricks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you're all about. You want me to like you and now I'm not gonna.
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Yeah. You desperate slob.
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Oh God. The last thing I'd ever do is give you the satisfaction.
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It is coming off you in waves. How badly you need this freak.
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Yeah, just.
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It's seismic.
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Your insecurity. It is tough. I like when they're also so serious and they're like three months old.
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Cause you go, oh, that's so funny. That's my favorite.
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Come on. All I have to do is make like a wide eyed face at you. And you would hope that we're smiling, we're laughing, and they're like, that's not at all. The judgmental ness can be really awesome.
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I love you. Do a peekaboo to a baby like that, and they look back at you like, yeah, it was your hands. Your hands were in front of your face.
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They're, like, really cringe.
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I've known about hands for, like, three weeks.
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They're like, oof.
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Did you think that you were gone?
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Yeah. Bombing in front of a newborn is tough.
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It's so funny.
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It's good for the ego death, though.
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It helps you be resilient.
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Yes. Well, that is lovely. I love when it's friend time. Time to lock in on friendships.
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It's been really nice because I think, like, the. The toughest part about being on the road, I think, is, like, being away from Maris and our dog Maggie. But the other part is, like, depending on where you are, sometimes you don't know what to do during the day, or you're just, like, alone all day. And it's just so much fun to be in a place where I can go like, oh, hey, I finished the stuff I'm doing this morning. Do you want to go hang out at this park or go to this museum that I've never been to? And it's so much nicer to have a friend sometimes to do that.
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And it gets easier and easier as the weather warms up too, which I do love. It gets really easy and tempting at 2pm to just be like, we're all good for the day. Does anyone want to go get a sip? We're all tired. Totally. Yeah. So that's nice. I'm eager for. For that time.
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It feels like it's coming here.
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I think so too. I am feeling the same. It's less even about the weather, and it's more about the communal human vibe. Sometimes it's just. We get ready for it, even if the weather's not. It's March.
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I'm glad that we talked about this. I'm in, like, a really good gratitude mood.
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Me too.
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But I'm starting to get pretty sleepy, and I'm thinking about turning in. But before I do, we got a listener message that I wanted to read. Is that okay with you?
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Yes, please. Love it.
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This was a response to a conversation that you and I had about what to do with your winter clothes. When you go to a restaurant, where do you put your big jacket?
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Did we come up with? Was the hack just, like, try and carry around a hook with you? I think that was kind of our.
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Yeah, totally. But the. I'm, like, excited to. I'm excited to hear what this listener had to say because we really didn't have a great solution.
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No, this was just kind of Taylor's oldest time. It just sucks.
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Yep. Okay, here's what our listener said. KP and Josh missed an obvious hack that they both should remember from childhood. Shoving your hats and gloves and scarves into your coat sleeves. A timeless and perfect solution.
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They're absolutely right.
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As a former preschool teacher, this is a familiar hack, and I do think it is good to flag. And I can't believe we didn't bring that up on our own.
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It's true. You know, the obvious con of this hack is very often the gloves fall out. And that's why you see gloves littering the streets in winter. There's always just every 10ft, there's a black glove, a wool glove that's just sitting on the ground.
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Dead leaf, dead leaf, dead leaf, black glove.
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But it is. It is. Absolutely. You're exactly right. Is that takes care of a lot of the bulk of it.
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But I will say, for me, one of the big things is not just where do the hats, gloves, scarves go. The coat itself is my big problem.
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I 100% agree.
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So thank you for. I think we're working at the margins with this.
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Yes. We're zeroing in on something. I was remembering what I used to do, which is. And I think maybe I even brought it up last time we spoke of this, but it is buy an ugly coat that you don't like, and then you can leave it right on the floor.
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This is a great idea.
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See, this is what I usually did in all of college is like, you know, house parties. It's so annoying to go to a house party and have to carry something around. You don't know where anything goes. So I just would be like, well, this. If this coat gets stepped on or stolen, I do not care. Yeah, this is an ugly coat anyway. And so you bring that and you just shove it in the corner on the floor.
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I think that's a great move. These are the hacks of people who don't unpack for days.
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Yes, this. Welcome to Type B podcast. You're talking with Josh and kp. Don't be like us.
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Don't be like us is the hack. If you have other hacks or other ways that you can differ from our slovenly lifestyles, please write in at thenightlyatch. Co. We would love to hear from you. Always.
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We're just giving you the joyful worst case scenarios of our lives. But I think with that, hopefully there's people at least if they can't relate. I hope they're asleep because I'm going to bed too. I will talk to you next time. Good night, Josh.
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Good night, KP.
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Sam.
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Hosts: Josh & KP
Date: March 23, 2026
Podcast: The Nightly (by Hatch Podcasts)
This cozy, late-night episode of The Nightly centers on decluttering, the humorous baggage of nostalgia, and a deliberate focus on gratitude. Hosts Josh and KP swap stories and playful philosophies about domestic messes, the quirky things they keep for sentimental reasons, and why it's sometimes hard to let go. Departing from their usual "grievance airing," they celebrate the comforting things in their lives, weaving in gentle banter and absurd asides about everything from medieval portraits to raccoon highways. It's a laid-back, relatable pop culture wind-down, perfect for listeners seeking warmth and laughter before bed.
"Sometimes I feel like if I have an hour, I'll be like, an hour. Who gets something done in an hour?...But I've been using those pockets of time really nicely this week.” — Josh (01:23)
“With nostalgia comes clutter. That is like—people, like more people should say that. And they should credit you.” — Josh (03:19)
“You’d have to hire an artisan to paint you by the fireside. ...You hope it’s not a caricature artist.” — Josh (04:56)
Airing Gratitudes, Not Grievances (06:11):
Josh suggests flipping their usual routine to focus on gratitude instead of mini-rants, especially as winter drags on.
KP’s Top Gratitudes (07:12–10:12):
“That feeling of knowing where everything is...out of my vision, that feels really nice. I’m feeling really gratituded for that.” — KP (07:23)
“I am on a thoroughfare for raccoons. My bedroom window is on the highway, seemingly, of raccoon.” — KP (11:24)
Humorous recounting of raccoon adventures and coping with late-night backyard chaos (12:13–12:54).
Orange noise as nighttime comfort (12:54–13:06):
KP proclaims their favorite white-noise color, likening it to airplane cabin hums that bring comfort, despite travel annoyances.
Josh’s Turn: Connection and Birthday Adventures (13:41–17:31):
“This year, small number. I turned four this year.” — Josh (14:53)
“You do a peekaboo to a baby like that, and they look back at you like, yeah, it was your hands. ...You desperate slob.” — (17:06–16:34)
Winter Coat Hacks (19:04):
A listener emails in, reminding the hosts of a classic childhood hack—stuffing hats and gloves into coat sleeves at restaurants, which both agree is “a timeless and perfect solution.” (19:11–19:47)
Further “Type B” Wisdom:
KP advocates for wearing an intentionally ugly coat to bars and parties, so you don’t mind leaving it on the floor—a nod to their self-identified “Type B” natures:
“Welcome to Type B podcast. You're talking with Josh and kp. Don't be like us.” — KP (21:16)
With gentle warmth and sharp wit, The Nightly’s hosts invite listeners to relax, laugh, and find small joys in familiar struggles. Their candid admissions about clutter, procrastination, and a need for both order and sentimentality echo many listeners’ lives, while their gratitude practice closes the episode on an uplifting note. As ever, the pair’s quirky chemistry and love for offbeat asides provide comfort and comedy, making this a perfect bedtime listen.
For future gratitudes, hacks, or advice requests, listeners are encouraged to write in at thenightly@hatch.co. Good night!