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Alright. I'm Matt.
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And I'm kp. Welcome to the nightly from Hatch, where your late night thoughts go to. Matt, I know we've spoken before on some fun dating stories.
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Yeah, it's been a while, actually.
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I know. I saw one that I think warrants our opinion. Everyone's begging for our opinions at all times.
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We certainly are. Yeah.
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We're the kings and queens of dating. And I think it's up to us to give the people what they want.
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Yeah. Let's get to the bottom of this. For the people.
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I know I said. I read it. I haven't. I skimmed it. So we're gonna.
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I said starting off on a lie. Yeah.
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Keep you on your toes. You can't expect what I'm gonna do next.
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No, that's true. Very unpredictable. It's exciting.
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So we'll go through this for the first time together. All right. My friend went out of town for a work conference and ended up meeting a woman.
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Ooh, believable. Yep.
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Yeah, this happens. They hit it off instantly. And he spent the rest of the weekend with her but had to fly home Sunday afternoon. She him to stay a few extra days and while he was into it, he told her he couldn't. But they made plans for him to return a month or so later. Cute.
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I'm already. I've already got doubts about the veracity. Is that the word truthfulness?
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Uh huh. I think he. If I had to guess right now, I think he's got a wife and kids or something.
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Probably. Yeah. But I think he's also. He's a liar. Straight off the bat. Anyway, I just don't believe he stayed the rest of the weekend with her. A work conference?
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You think he didn't even go to a work conference.
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Who's doing a work conference on a weekend?
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That is kind of true. Yeah. Okay.
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Anyway, carry on. But my heart's not in this kp. I just don't believe him. But please continue.
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I know, I know you're mad at him. It could be she's the weirdo. We don't know.
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All right, we'll find out.
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So he gets home and he's telling us about her. How she was great, how the connection was immediate and the spark was something unique. We were stoked for him. Then he flew back to her a few weeks later. She picked him up and was in a mood from the jump. Treating him like they were already in that bickering couple phase. Oh boy. That's the worst phase. This is her second time Seeing him. Okay. They get in her car and he's texting our group chat, and she goes silent. He tells her he's just letting his friends know he got into town. Alright. She continues the silent treatment. They popped in somewhere for lunch and she's still annoyed. He gets a beer and she's criticizing his drinking habits even though they met at a bar.
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Okay, how's he drinking it upside down? Because you don't put it in your mouth like everybody else.
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He's doing a keg stand. Okay. They make it back to her place and my friend expects things to chill out, but no, she gets mad that he's not taking his clothes out of his bag and hanging them up in the closet, which gives her the impression he doesn't want to be there very quickly.
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I feel like this is a male, female divide this. Yeah, because I. Whenever I am staying in a hotel, even if it's for a week, I live out the suitcase. My girlfriend finds it mental. She's like, why would you not, like, hang everything up and put it in drawers?
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Well, why are you moving around for just a few days? To me, I go, it's already in a. It's in a container.
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Yeah.
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I gotta put it in a different container.
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What? So that I can then put it back in that container to leave again. Are you kidding me?
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I barely take it out of the suitcase when I arrive back home.
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Okay, all right. Well, that completely disproves my point then.
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I thought that was a no, but I'm quite messy. I mean, I'm a type B person here. I'm quite messy. So don't look to me for any solidarity. You're doing it wrong. If I. And so am I. I don't know
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what type B means. We'll get into that.
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Okay, great.
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Circle back around to that. Don't know what that means.
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That'll be something. All right. She tells him she's upset. It took him too long to get back to visit and he didn't commit to staying long enough. My friend calms her down and tells her, start the shower and he'll join her just as soon as he takes a work call. She seems happy enough and off she goes. She's really getting right in. She wants a full commitment out of this person she met once. The minute he hears her get in the shower, he starts getting his bag together. Oh, no. Once he has everything ready, he starts to head out. The way he explained her apartment was that it was small with a heavy front door. There's no way he could Open it without her hearing from the shower. So he made a plan B. Jump from the second story balcony.
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No, I. Why would. I'm not having that. Why would you? Surely if she's in the shower, even if she hears the door. Yeah.
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You'll be out and she'll be naked. She'll have to get a robe on. You have time run.
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Yeah. Rather than just jump and break both your legs and then have to crawl away.
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She'll see you with your suitcase. Apparently, he video chatted this. So he's on video jumping out of the second story balcony.
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Okay, well, in that case, I completely believe it then.
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Narrator says, I'm at work talking to a colleague when I see a phone call from him. Okay, Mark, but you need to go away because I have to take this call. I answered, and the first thing I see is my friend mentally judging the distance from the balcony to the ground. He fills me and our other friend in. She's gonna end up Kathy Bates ing me Misery style if I stay. I need to get out of here now.
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I can believe that.
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Yeah. We watched him jump and crash into the grass. He grabs his bag and he starts running down the street. I've never laughed so hard in my life. My friend walked to a Target somewhere nearby, ubered to the airport, finagled some sort of discounted voucher or rebate to get an immediate return flight, and waited it out at the airport. It was awesome to experience his dilemma in real time.
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Is that the end?
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That's the end.
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Okay. I ideally wanted a bit more closure there. I want to know what she said.
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I'm sure she texted. I'm sure there was some sort of.
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She found out there's no way she's leaving.
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That, yeah, he must have blocked her, but I'm surprised she didn't get through that.
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I feel like she would find a way. She seems like the kind of person who would just turn up at your house.
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Yeah. You are not safe. You're not safe at all right now.
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This guy's a terrible judge of character. I mean, I don't understand why you'd. Did you not pick up any sort of odd signals? She just went straight back there.
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Not. You know, I think everybody likes a real romantic firecracker story, but to me, I go, you shouldn't stay with this. First weekend was already an issue. You brand new, met a stranger, and then you stayed with her the whole weekend. Just, you know, go do your own thing. Set the expectation correctly that you're not gonn immediately start living with this Woman.
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Yeah, it seems insane.
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It does. I mean there's certain things. It's like even when things feel fun, we're just not allowed to do them. It's like, yeah, it feels, I'm sure, fun to have a 72 hour first date, but you're just not allowed to do that because then I don't know
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if that does seem fun. It's a lot of, a lot of time to keep up the pretense of being a better person than you actually are.
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Well, and I'm like, I like slowly getting to know someone. That's fine. You know, I don't need to see every, every nook and cranny of you the first, the first day.
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No, no. Ideally not actually. Yeah.
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Yeah, I feel for her, I suppose. I think she's got some work to do. I think she's got a lot of growing to do.
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Yeah. You can't be going after people's drinking habits when they're having one beer. You gotta loosen up there.
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You met him at a bar, I think you knew. Maybe a beer was his style.
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Well, there we go. Was it Mark? Was that the guy's name?
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He just kind of says Mark somewhere.
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Yeah, it seemed sort of random. I don't know whether that was the guy's name or not, but if it is, this is what I would say to you. Mark, you're on a work trip.
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Yeah.
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You remember who's paying for that work trip?
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No. So you're on the side of the CEO.
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I'm on the side of the corporate machine.
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That's very you. You're all about the stockholders.
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There's a lot of people's mortgages riding on this. You go just flying around willy nilly, meeting women and then moving in with them and jumping off balconies. This is not a Kevin Hart movie.
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No, you're. You're a liability to the company and you need to think about that.
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Kevin Hart was a bad example. You're not Paul Rudd from 20 years ago.
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Sure.
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Is that better? I guess it'll be a better one.
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Tom Cruise is always jumping out of something.
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Yeah, true, but not in a sort of romantic, funny way, more of a. Well, jumping out.
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Save the world.
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Yeah, save the world. Yeah.
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Paul Rudd's. Yeah, that works for me.
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Could be Steve Carell. In some ways I had the 40 year old virgin in my head. But in fact that's. Do you know what that's Mark. Mark is a 40 year old virgin.
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Yeah. What other advice do I have? I think to this girl, you really Gotta chill out. You've got to let it be okay to be by yourself. There's no one I like hanging out more than with myself. We get along really well. Will you like the same movies? Have a little date with yourself?
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Yeah, but other people can't love you before you love yourself.
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Yes, yes, yes. Can I get an amen?
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Yes, you can. Kp.
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Yeah.
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What's a type B person? Okay, it's not a blood thing.
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No, this is not a woo woo thing either. I think some people are like, I'm an Aquarius, so I'm messy. That's not what I mean by that. Type B is like there's a kind of scale of chill outedness, I suppose. Type A is like people that are. They enjoy planning, they're good at planning. I like to know exactly what's going to happen. I like to look at the menu before I go to a restaurant. I like to keep my room tidy. There's a sense of order in these people's lives.
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Oh, I hate that.
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It's very unrelatable to me. Yeah, but we need these people. It's like two type B people planning a trip. It's everyone's sleeping on the ground and they're eating dirt clods.
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I mean, you need jumping off balconies.
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Type B is, I don't get stressed out if I didn't unpack my suitcase for a few days. My room's got piles of it. Sometimes I show up somewhere and I go, I left time for us to experiment and find our way into the next thing. But that can be bad too. It can go the other way where it's like, okay, well you've planned nothing, you've contributed very little and you're a mess.
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I feel like I'm sort of some sort of mix between A and B, which is very confusing.
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It's a spectrum. So I'd say everyone's somewhere.
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But how far down the road are you with B do you reckon?
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I think I still enjoy planning and I'm not late to things. Like, I'm not late on timing. I'm really on time. I do my homework when I have homework. I like get my writing done. I respect an order, I respect a structure. But I'm just not stressed out by mess very much. Right, okay, yeah, I gave you the KP's version, but I can give you the actual version of what type A and type B is.
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Oh yeah, sure. I mean, I trust the KP version
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completely, but okay, well this is what the encyclopedia says. Type A and Type B personality theory was devised by Drs. Meyer Friedman and Ray Rosenman in the 1950s. They claimed there's type A people which are more likely to get heart disease because of their high stress lifestyle than other people. Type B. That is interesting. I didn't know this was like a heart thing.
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It makes complete sense. Yeah. You probably have a higher stress lifestyle that's gonna have knock on effects, isn't it?
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Sure. This claim though is disputed. This was just a hypothesis they had. So it doesn't really actually predict heart disease. But the distinction between type A and type B has become popular in non academic terms now. Do you want to take the type A type B test?
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Oh, yeah, yeah, let's do the test.
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Okay, I'll do it for you because I think I already know I'm type B. So I'll give you the questions.
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All right.
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When exercising, I A try and keep a steady PA or B push myself to go harder.
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Yeah, B.
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Okay. In conversations, sometimes I interrupt people or people interrupt me.
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Ooh, neither really.
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I'm gonna say people interrupt you, I guess because I really don't, I don't find you to be an interrupter and we talk often.
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I was gonna just interrupt you then just for a laugh. I thought it's too obvious, but. No, I agree. But I also, I don't think people tend to interrupt me. That, that would, that would insinuate a
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lack of respect totally towards me, which I've never seen. That's just, that's dangerous.
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That is dangerous. I don't know, I'm less likely to interrupt somebody.
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So.
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Yeah, we'll go with.
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I play games to A have fun or B to win.
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To win, yeah.
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The best position in a team is the leader or the second in command to an awesome leader.
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Good question, actually. Where would you be with that, do you reckon?
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The leader I really enjoy.
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Yeah.
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I enjoyed getting the glory.
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Yeah. I think I would have to be the leader. I get frustrated.
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Yes.
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Because I think things should be done
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better when driving cars pass me or I pass cars.
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I pass cars. Yeah.
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But I would say this isn't a personality trait, is it? The pleasure in A, I'm like, you're just. You drive fast. That means something. I don't know. The pleasure in a task is finishing it or exploring its possibilities.
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Finishing it for sure. Yeah.
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I eat slowly to savor the flavors or fast for a burst of flavor.
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Depends what it is.
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Right. You're just opening your gullet for French onion soup. Boiling hot French onion soup.
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You know what I'm Like I don't want it to burn my lips. So I'll put it directly down my
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throat, head tilted back, make sure it gets right to its final destination.
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Yeah, that's like a snake. I actually, I think I, I'm pretty sure whenever I eat with my girlfriend, when we have tea, I, I normally second.
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Okay. So I'll put slowly.
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So I reckon slowly. Yeah.
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Stress pushes me to achieve or harms my output.
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I do work better with a deadline, I reckon.
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Okay.
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But I also don't necessarily deal with stress brilliantly, but I do need it.
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Mm.
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So yeah, we'll go. Yeah. Yeah.
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Okay. Pushes you to achieve. When I take breaks, I enjoy the moment or I stay preoccupied with my work.
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I'd never really stop thinking about work. Yeah.
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Okay. You are a 4 out of 10. That means you are a 10.
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You take that back immediately.
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I'm getting word that they saw the camera and they say you are a four out of ten.
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Oh, that's hurtful. Okay. Right. And what about the personality?
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This means you're a type B. You're a type B. Oh, yeah, there we go.
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Your diagnosis was right, but it seems
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like, yeah, you're, you're not so solidly in there. There's a spectrum here. You work steadily but ENJ achievement. Yep. When faced with competition, you don't mind losing. Well, that's not exactly what you said. That was your turn.
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I don't know where they've got that from. I specifically said I don't like losing.
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Type B personalities may have a poor sense of time schedule and can be predominantly right brained thinkers. I don't know.
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No, I would agree with you. I'm always on time for stuff. I think if you're not 10 minutes early, you're late.
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I know. I think this is all, you know, with any personality thing. I go, eh, we're all just a mix of everything, aren't we? Everybody's a mix of everything.
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Yeah. Also, there's a good chance that I lie to myself to make myself feel better.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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You know what, I'll be completely honest with you. KP cars have passed me before. I didn't say that.
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Okay, we have to restart. We have to restart. That is not okay.
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Sorry everyone.
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Yeah, I think, I think we have the similar. This might be also just a comedians work ethic is like we're, we have to have a little mess, a little creativity, but then it's like we have to set our own deadlines. So we gotta be good at that and timing and all that.
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That is a big part of it. Yeah. Cause that's probably the hardest thing, I reckon, isn't it? Is. There's no, like, we don't have to do this.
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And many say we shouldn't. And many people that have gone to my shows say that I shouldn't.
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You really don't have to do this.
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Kay. You know this is not required, right?
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It's okay. You can go. You don't have to.
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Just give me one more chance. And it's late night stuff. I mean, the shows are late, so we gotta just have a good schedule to get stuff done in the days. It's a fun life we've chosen.
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It is a fun life.
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Mm.
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And on that note, I think it's about time we head to bed.
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I think so.
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And I would actually, I'd just like to extend a very warm good night to Mark's manager and just say, I know these are very trying times economically. You're doing your best. You've got employees who are pissing about doing God knows what. You stay strong, make that coin for the shareholders and. Yeah, you sleep well.
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Yeah. We're gonna see the LinkedIn post what my employee jumping out of a window said for my B2B sales. Yeah, I've learned so much. I think I'll say goodnight to the people that invented this. A B test. I actually had no idea it was about heart stuff or stress. I'm glad you scientists and doctors are thinking of new things, even if it doesn't really work. And it was disputed, but no, that's it.
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Night, guys.
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Stay. Yeah, they invented this in the 1950s, so I'm sure they're listening right now. Good night, you two. And good night to you, Matt. I'll talk to you next time.
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Good night, K.P.
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Sa.
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Hosts: Matt Bragg and KP Parker
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A cozy, humorous deep-dive into a disastrous Reddit dating tale, followed by musings and a self-test on the famed Type A/B personality framework. The episode blends witty banter and genuine insight, offering both laughter and self-reflection—perfect for winding down before bed.
[00:24 – 08:52]
Introduction to the Story
“Everyone's begging for our opinions at all times.” – KP [00:45]
Story Summary:
"Whenever I am staying in a hotel, even if it's for a week, I live out the suitcase. My girlfriend finds it mental." – Matt [03:22]
Escalation and Escape:
"We watched him jump and crash into the grass... I've never laughed so hard in my life." – KP [05:49]
Deconstructing the Aftermath:
"I ideally wanted a bit more closure there. I want to know what she said." – Matt [06:13]
Reflective Advice & Empathy:
"This is not a Kevin Hart movie.” – Matt [08:52]
[09:16 – 17:32]
Defining Type A and B Personalities:
"Type A is like people that are... good at planning. I like to know exactly what's going to happen... Type B is, I don't get stressed out if I didn't unpack my suitcase..." – KP [10:21]
History of the Concept:
Taking the Type A/B Personality Test
"I'm pretty sure whenever I eat with my girlfriend, when we have tea, I'm normally second." [15:10]
"I specifically said I don't like losing." – Matt [16:30]
Test Result:
"With any personality thing... we're all just a mix of everything, aren't we?" – KP [16:45]
Meta-Reflection on Comedians’ Work Ethics:
“This might be also just a comedians work ethic... we have to set our own deadlines.” – KP [17:16]
“She's gonna end up Kathy Bates-ing me Misery style if I stay. I need to get out of here now.” – Friend via KP [05:38]
“Type B is like there's a kind of scale of chill outedness, I suppose.” – KP [10:21]
“It's a fun life we've chosen.” – Matt [18:09]
“You're a liability to the company and you need to think about that.” – Matt [09:02]
“Other people can't love you before you love yourself.” – Matt [10:04]
“There's a good chance that I lie to myself to make myself feel better.” – Matt [16:54]
| Timestamp | Segment | |--------------|----------------------------------------------| | 00:24–02:58 | Reading and reacting to Reddit story | | 03:22–04:09 | Suitcase unpacking debate (gender/Type B!) | | 04:57–06:11 | The actual escape and "jumping out" moment | | 07:18–08:52 | Lessons and gentle roasting of the friend | | 09:16–10:21 | Introducing and defining Type A/B | | 12:11–13:27 | Scientific background & personality test | | 15:00–17:32 | Test answers and personality spectrum talk | | 18:10–19:28 | Closing banter and bedtime wishes |
Warm, witty, and playful—Matt and KP riff off each other with inside jokes and understanding, dissecting dating disasters and personality quirks with an empathetic, sleep-friendly energy. Their comedic timing and self-awareness shine throughout.
This episode is an ideal listen for winding down, offering gentle humor and relatable insight for the end of your day.