Remembering the Plot of Titanic

Summary

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The Nightly: "Remembering the Plot of Titanic"

Host: Mat ("A")
Co-host: kp ("B")
Date: February 18, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this cozy, late-night episode of The Nightly, Mat and kp gather in the virtual pillow fort for a playful, meandering “Do You Remember?” game centered on James Cameron’s 1997 blockbuster, Titanic. With warm nostalgia and gentle humor, they attempt to reconstruct the film’s plot from memory, touching on its iconic moments, unanswered questions, and bits of pop culture mythology. The hosts riff on everything from two-tape VHS sets to the infamous debate about “the door,” creating a soothing and comedic bedtime conversation for insomniac pop culture lovers.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Kickoff: VHS Nostalgia & Titanic as a Cultural Touchstone

[01:14-02:13]

• kp recalls watching Titanic numerous times as a double VHS pack:

  “It would come in the two VHSs in the pack because it was so long.” (B, 01:20)

• Mat marvels at how mainstream and rewatchable the film is:

  “I think everybody’s seen it, haven’t they? Which is why it’s a good starting point.” (A, 01:41)

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2. Titanic’s Dual Appeal: Love Story vs. Disaster Movie

[02:01-02:13]

• kp summarizes the film’s unique blend of genres:

  “If you want a love story, there’s the love story, but if you just want a cool historical ship going down, I think the movie hits that too.” (B, 02:01)

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3. Plot Recap: Out-of-Order but with Charm

Framing Device and Structure

[03:12-03:48]

• Mat stumbles but kp reminds:

  “Isn’t the first bit she’s like 90 years old looking for a necklace?” (B, 03:12)

• The story is told as a flashback by elderly Rose as explorers hunt for the Heart of the Ocean necklace.

Jack’s Backstory and Poker Win

[04:38-05:18]

• Jack (Leonardo DiCaprio) wins his ticket onto the ship in a wild poker game. Mat questions the realism:

  “Presumably a lot of it in the steerage class. It was like immigrants going for a better life in America. And I think it’s a Swedish guy who just puts his tickets in on a hand of poker and loses it. Not entirely sure why you do that.” (A, 04:55)

Memorable Minor Characters

[06:16-06:20]

• Mat shares a favorite line from a Swedish passenger:

  “It goes dead quiet and he just goes, ‘ver, Sven.’ That’s one of my favorite lines from any film.” (A, 06:19)

Jack and Rose: Fish Out of Water

[07:23-07:33]

• Rose’s discomfort in first class and with her fiancé Cal is highlighted:

  “She’s got this dud fiance who’s boring and lame and rude.” (B, 07:33)

First Major Setpiece: The Rescue Scene

[07:46-08:17]

• The pivotal rescue on the ship’s stern is recounted, with the mistaken assumption of Jack as an attacker.

The Dinner and the Suit Plot Hole

[08:32-09:10]

• Mat pokes fun at movie conveniences:

  “She says, oh, my son has got a suit, don’t think the son’s there, but his suit is. And it just happens to fit Jack perfectly.” (A, 08:34)

Jack Teaches Rose to Spit

[09:29-09:49]

• The quirky, iconic scene where Jack shows Rose how to spit off the side of the ship is affectionately recalled.

The Third-Class Party

[10:04-10:41]

• The “nightclub” scene—an energetic third-class party with dancing and lively music—is described as a peak of Rose’s fun and self-discovery.

Jack’s Artistic Nomad Backstory

[06:43-07:08]

• kp and Mat note Jack’s vague backstory:

  “He’s a bit of a nomad... now he’s getting back to New York, hopefully just for his next adventure.” (A & B, 06:48-07:12)

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4. The Diamond Plot & Setup

[10:55-12:02]

• The Heart of the Ocean necklace is introduced as the film’s central MacGuffin.
• The hosts debate who plants the necklace on whom, agreeing that Cal frames Jack to look like a thief as the iceberg approaches.

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5. The Infamous Car Scene & Blame for Disaster

[12:29-13:22]

• kp jokes about the film suggesting the iceberg is missed because the crew is distracted by Jack and Rose making out in the car:

  “That is crazy that we’re blaming these two people for a large tragedy. The biggest tragedy of that year.” (B, 12:46)

• Mat brings up real-life lookout Frederick Fleet, humorously noting he later worked on another ship that also sank:

  “You’re not going to believe this. He got a gig on another ship as a lookout. Sank.” (A, 13:38–13:39)

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6. Historical Accuracy and Real Conditions

[13:52-14:38]

• kp provides real context:

  “They were going way too fast. They couldn’t have turned. Then that night, there was no moon at all... And then the biggest issue was that the coal rooms, the wall didn’t go all the way to the top. So if one flooded, they all flooded.” (B, 13:52–14:28)

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7. The Sinking: Onset of Chaos

[15:05-15:55]

• The chaos of sinking, third-class passengers being locked out (not historically accurate), and Rose’s impulsive risk to stay with Jack are colorfully recounted.

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8. The Door Debate

[16:59-17:46]

• The hosts engage in an enthusiastic back-and-forth over whether both Jack and Rose could fit on the floating “door”:

  “He does try and get on the door, and then it wobbles so much and starts sinking that he decides not to. So I am like, when people think that it’s big enough, it’s not the bigness. It’s that there’s not enough buoyancy for two.” (B, 17:16–17:35)
  “Yeah, they could have definitely swapped around at some point, but…” (A, 17:46)

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9. Finale: The Heart of the Ocean & Rose’s Life

[18:13-19:21]

• Old Rose possesses the legendary necklace and tosses it into the ocean, a move Mat and kp express both bewilderment and affection for:

  “The more you think about it, the more insane it is that she had a totally three day affair with a guy on a boat. And she has lived her whole life.” (A, 19:05) “It was just a vacation crush.” (B, 19:16)

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10. Listener Goodnight Message

[19:39-20:13]

• Hussain, a listener, sends in a delightfully cheeky goodnight message:

  “Hussain says good night to my enemies. I am wishing on your downfall. Into bed. Have a good night’s rest.” (A, 19:53)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “It was a 2VHS job?...You had to take out the first tape and put in the other one.” — kp, [01:28]
• “I think everybody’s seen it, haven’t they? Which is why it’s a good starting point.” — Mat, [01:41]
• “If you want a love story, there’s the love story, but if you just want a cool historical ship going down, I think the movie hits that too.” — kp, [02:01]
• “It goes dead quiet and he just goes, ‘ver, Sven.’ That’s one of my favorite lines from any film.” — Mat, [06:19]
• “That has to be after the drawing...and that’s why they don’t see the iceberg.” — kp, [12:29–12:42]
• “That is crazy that we’re blaming these two people for a large tragedy.” — kp, [12:46]
• “You’re not going to believe this...Sank.” — Mat, [13:39]
• “People think that it’s big enough, it’s not the bigness. It’s that there’s not enough buoyancy for two.” — kp, [17:35]
• “She chucks it in the sea. Another very strange decision.” — Mat, [18:39]
• “It was just a vacation crush.” — kp, [19:16]
• “Hussain says good night to my enemies. I am wishing on your downfall. Into bed. Have a good night’s rest.” — Listener Hussain (A reads), [19:53]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:14–02:13] — VHS nostalgia & Titanic’s popularity
• [03:12–03:48] — Framing device with old Rose
• [04:38–05:18] — Jack wins Titanic tickets
• [06:16–06:20] — “Ver, Sven!” favorite line
• [08:32–09:10] — Suit plot hole and class differences
• [10:04–10:41] — 3rd class party scene
• [12:29–13:22] — Car scene & iceberg collision
• [13:52–14:38] — Real-life Titanic facts
• [16:59–17:46] — The “door” debate
• [18:13–19:21] — Old Rose throws the necklace into the sea
• [19:39–20:13] — Listener goodnight message

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Tone & Style

Mat and kp keep the conversation comforting, irreverent, and filled with drowsy late-night humor. Their friendly teasing and self-deprecating uncertainties make the episode perfect for unwinding before bed, while still offering genuine insights and nostalgic fun for Titanic fans.

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In sum:
This episode is a lighthearted, affectionately digressive revisiting of Titanic, mixing gentle satire, snippets of pop knowledge, and bedtime-comfort energy—a perfect wind-down listen for those nostalgic for both 1997 and the golden era of VHS.

Transcript

[A]

Hello. You're about to drift into an episode of the Nightly, a podcast designed to help you unwind and relax. For the full phone free immersive light experience, visit Hatch Co. Enjoy. All right. I'm Mat.

[B]

And I'm kp. Welcome to the Nightly from Hatch, a slumber party for pop culture lovers.

[A]

Here we go.

[B]

Kp, finally. Honestly, we haven't had an episode together in a bit.

[A]

It has been a little while. Yeah. How you been?

[B]

I'm good. I think it's time zone differences. But now we get to meet up in the nighttime together.

[A]

Yes. So tonight, kp.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I thought we would play a game of do you remember.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And I wanted to bring a specific film up tonight, which I don't think there's. I've not done one of these before, but there's no other film that I could think of starting with than this. I think it's the perfect one.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

How familiar are you with Titanic the 97? Wow.

[B]

It has been a long time since I've watched, but I really. I used to love it. It would come in the two VHSs in the pack because it was so long.

[A]

Oh, Was it a 2VHS job?

[B]

It was a 2VHS. I mean, I think. I'm sure James Cameron put a bunch of special features and stuff, but it was. You had to take out the first tape and put in the other one.

[A]

Wow, look how far we've come.

[B]

There it is.

[A]

If you don't remember it, I'm sure. Or not. I think everybody's seen it, haven't they? Which is why it's a good starting point.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And I've seen it a lot of times. It's one of those that I've. I don't know why I'm into the Titanic more than the sort of Romeo and Juliet angle, which I think is why I've seen it so many times.

[B]

It does scratch an itch for like, whatever you're interested in. If you want a love story, there's the love story, but if you just want a cool historical ship going down, I think the movie hits that too.

[A]

Yeah. If you're into sort of disasters and stuff, it really. It doesn't get much bigger than that. And so it starts off with obviously, Rose, who's the main.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Woman. Love interest of Jack. She goes to the ship with her husband Cal, who's probably. He's not a great guy, actually. Cal is. He's pretty. Pretty nasty piece of work.

[B]

He's just. Yeah, he's a real smarmy guy.

[A]

I don't like at the start as well with the, you know, they try in films like this, they try and put in like little historical Easter eggs.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Where Cal's talking about the paintings that Rose is putting on the ship and he's like, oh something Picasso. He'll never amount to a thing.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

And the whole audience is supposed to go aha.

[B]

Yeah, you're winking at the audience, you go, little did they know. Uh huh.

[A]

So there's a lot of that in the first bit.

[B]

Well now, and I hate to already jump in, but isn't the first. First bit she's like 90 years old looking for a necklace.

[A]

Oh, you're right. Actually I've gone back into the. Where they go back in time. Yeah, you're right. The whole thing is from the point of view of Rose in her probably what, late 80s maybe?

[B]

I think so, yeah.

[A]

Again this is a bit of a. Who am I to critique James Cameron? It's a bit of a.

[B]

He knew what he was doing. Yeah.

[A]

There's an elderly woman who's kind of recounting this love story from however many years previously. I guess about 60 odd years before.

[B]

60, yeah, yeah.

[A]

And yeah, they get on a boat to go and look at the wreck. There's a guy who explains in really quite harrowing detail how the Titanic sank despite the fact that she was literally on it when it happened.

[B]

He's just sort of rubbing salt in the wound really. It wasn't that cold water, so. Ooh, you hated that.

[A]

Really. Prizes open some old wounds.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And then she kind of, she goes into the room with all the TVs and stuff where they're looking at the wreck and she goes back in time and then it's her by the ship.

[B]

Right, great.

[A]

Jack's in the pub beforehand. Leonardo DiCaprio. And actually do you know what, this came to mind because we spoke a few weeks ago on one of these shows about how Leo DiCaprio hasn't actually watched Titanic.

[B]

Oh yeah. I don't even know if he knows.

[A]

It sank cause he doesn't make it quite to the end, does he?

[B]

He doesn't. Sorry if you guys haven't seen it, but you've had 30 years to watch this one.

[A]

Yeah, I don't even feel guilty about that. But basically he wins tickets onto the.

[B]

Titanic because he's playing like poker or something.

[A]

Right. Again, pretty wild decision from the guy he's playing poker against. Presumably a lot of it in the steerage class. It was like immigrants going for a better life in America. And I think it's a Swedish guy who just puts his tickets in on a hand of poker and loses it. Not entirely sure why you do that.

[B]

Gambling addiction.

[A]

Gambling addiction. Yeah.

[B]

He's just not thinking straight.

[A]

I guess we could put it down to that. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. It's just he's. I. I think he wanted one more round. He thought he was going to win really big, and little did he know, he saved his own life.

[A]

Yeah, he did win big in the end. Yeah.

[B]

There was somebody looking out for him.

[A]

So Jack gets the ticket, runs on the ship, and then he's in the bottom of the boat in the steerage class with a bunch of Swedish people who are wondering where their Swedish mate is.

[B]

Oh, sure. Okay. I don't remember that. Yep, yep, yep.

[A]

That's one of my favorite lines from it is the. This, I think, oh, it's him and his mate Fabrizio, and they're sort of jumping in the bunk beds and they're sort of laughing and joking around with these Swedish guys. And then they leave the room and one of these Swedish guys, it goes dead quiet and he just goes, ver, Sven.

[B]

That'S good.

[A]

Which. That's one of my favorite lines from any film.

[B]

Can I. Do they explain? So Jack is American in this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And Kate Winslet is British.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

The ship is leaving from London.

[A]

Southampton. Yeah.

[B]

Okay. And going to New York. Now, why is Jack over in England?

[A]

I think they kind of skirt over this later on when he's showing pictures of his drawings.

[B]

Oh, he went to France to learn how to draw or something.

[A]

He's a bit of a nomad.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Floats around, draws pictures. I think there was a. It's kind of a storyline of he was in Paris drawing a picture of a prostitute with no legs.

[B]

Yep, yep. Okay.

[A]

So he does that. He ends up in England and now.

[B]

He'S getting back to New York, hopefully just for his next adventure.

[A]

Ideally. Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So he's living it up in the third class. Rose is obviously kind of. She's part of the aristocracy in first.

[B]

Class, but it's not feeling right to her. She doesn't feel like she belongs in first class.

[A]

She doesn't. She's not overly happy with it.

[B]

She's got this dud fiance who's boring and lame and rude.

[A]

And her mum. Her mum's very controlling. And then you can tell she's not that happy about it because she does try to jump off the back of the ship.

[B]

Oh, right. And he catches her. Right. He is like, wait, no, he must.

[A]

Go Outside, sees her on the back of the boat and then he stops her from jumping off.

[B]

Right, Yep.

[A]

Kind of grabs her over the railings and they're kind of rolling around on the floor for a bit, which is when somebody else sees them. And I think the inference initially is that Jack's attacking her or something.

[B]

Oh right. Cause he's third class interacting with a first class. So everyone's like this must be some low life.

[A]

Yeah, this guy's a scumbag. So obviously he's attacking this woman and then they kind of iron that out and all these guys in dinner suits say oh you're a hero, then you should come and eat with us.

[B]

Uh huh, yep.

[A]

Which leads me onto my second plot hole with Molly Brown, who's this first class woman who says you can't go to dinner dress like that. Cause he's obviously in his third class garb. And she says, oh, my son has got a suit on here for some reason. Don't think the son's there, but his suit is. And it just happens to fit Jack perfectly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which I find hard to imagine. I can't even get things to fit when I go and try them on.

[B]

I know in a shot, but it fits like a glove. He looks perfect.

[A]

He does look perfect. Yeah. It's unbelievable. So they go off to dinner anyway, there's all the sort of, oh, what knife and fork do I use Because I'm a poor person. And then I think the next day Jack teaches Rose how to spit properly.

[B]

Oh, of course.

[A]

Off the side of the boat. Which for some reason is quite a romantic, endearing thing.

[B]

Yes, well I'm sure 1912, I mean, girls weren't allowed to spit. You got somebody, that's encouraging it. You got a slimy fiance. I mean it's all, Anything can be romantic.

[A]

Yeah, I suppose there's not, maybe not a great deal else to do because it's not like a modern cruise ship. There's not like pool parties and slides and stuff. It's you eat, you walk, you go to bed.

[B]

Although it kind of has one thing that we're about to get to that is kind of modern cruise ships, which is the nightclub. Oh yeah, we sort of have a nightclub going on.

[A]

Yeah. In third class there's the sort of guys with accordions, violins, and they're having a big party in third class while the really stuffy people in first class are just boring. And so Jack takes Rose out of there anyway, they go and have this big party. They're dancing around, there's that Famous scene where they're sort of spinning round. Rose has a great time.

[B]

She loves it. She was born to be third class.

[A]

Yeah, I remember what happens after that. I'm sure there's some sort of. Does Jack draw her after that?

[B]

Do we get right to that?

[A]

The diamond goes in the coat pocket at some point.

[B]

Okay. Because this is a expensive necklace from her fiance to her.

[A]

Yes. The heart of the ocean, which apparently is one of the most expensive bits of jewelry or something ever.

[B]

Because her fiance is, like, doing work on this ship, it seems. Right. Like, he's, like, schmoozing. He's, like, not around very much. Leaving her by herself to go hang out with Jack.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. So he's kind of away networking in the smoking room. And so Rose has got a lot of free time.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So, yes, Jack's got a lot of free time.

[B]

She puts the necklace on. He draws her. And then as they're, like, getting up, she puts that necklace in his coat pocket. Because she's, like, wearing his blazer, I think. Or is it a setup?

[A]

Actually, no, I think that Cal, or Cal's bodyguard gets back and sees that they've been in there. They think, Jack, again, third class scumbag. He's been robbing them. So he gets. He's gonna get locked up.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But on his way to get locked up, I think it's. Cal drops the necklace in his pocket. So it looks like he's robbed them.

[B]

Yep, yep. I remember this. Okay. Cause now we're about to hit. Hit the darn iceberg. Because we've got Jack handcuffed.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah. So he's handcuffed to a pole, which is probably the worst place to be if you're gonna hit an iceberg in a ship.

[B]

The car is before the iceberg with the handprint on the window.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That has to be after the drawing.

[A]

Oh. In fact, that's what they attribute hitting the iceberg to. Cause the lookouts and watching them two copping off at the front of the ship.

[B]

And that's why they don't see the iceberg.

[A]

I think that's the inference.

[B]

That is crazy that we're blaming these two people for a large tragedy. The biggest tragedy of that year.

[A]

Yeah. Also real people as well. Cause it's a real story. They've got, you know, living relatives now. And James Cameron basically said, none of this would have happened if your great granddad wasn't such a pervert.

[B]

I'm gonna make him look. Really. But it is his fault.

[A]

So the guy who was the lookout, I think it was Frederick Fleet, the real guy. He was the lookout on the Titanic, which obviously sank. You're not going to believe this. He got a gig on another ship as a lookout. You're not going to believe this.

[B]

Did it go down?

[A]

Sank.

[B]

Oh, my.

[A]

So he was two for two.

[B]

Well, I got to give him credit. Those ships that, in that time period, I mean, they were barely. They were barely working.

[A]

Yeah. It can't have all been his fault.

[B]

No. And I did hear. I heard the conditions were just quite bad that night. Well, firstly, they were. I mean, I love the Titanic, the historical event, but they were going too fast because they said they could get there in five days, which was crazy at the time. So they were going way too fast. They couldn't have turned. Then that night, there was no moon at all. It was like the tiniest little sliver moon, so you couldn't see anything. And then the biggest issue was that the coal rooms, the wall didn't go all the way to the top. So if one flooded, they all flooded.

[A]

Yeah. That was the whole watertight compartment thing. They only went up so high.

[B]

So I want to give Fleet. If a relative of Fleet is listening, it's not his fault.

[A]

No, completely. A little. We'd all have a look. We'd all have a look if that was going on.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Anyway. Yeah. Ship's sinking. Jack's been cut out, so he's no longer handcuffed to a radiator, which is good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's all a bit sketchy from this point. Cal's got a gun.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Cause it's all chaos right now. I mean, everyone's running. There's like. And they're blocking off the third class. They, like, put that gate up. That's a crazy moment.

[A]

Yeah. Which again, apparently that's not historically accurate. I don't think that actually happened. But in the film. Yeah, they're locking up anyone in third class, which is where they are. Oh, it was a good bit where Jack and Fabrizio and his other mate, it's a big Irish fellow, they pick a bench up and smash down a gate. So they get out up to the boat deck, and then Rose doesn't want to get in a boat. Cal and Jack are actually on the same page with this. They both say, you should get in a boat. And I think she does get in one. And then she jumps out, maybe. So she wants to stay with Jack, which, again, mental decision. Trying to think if anything else important happens at that. But I Think that's sort of like.

[B]

Yeah. What's up with Cal's gun? He has a gun. He, like, threatens to shoot Jack.

[A]

He chases Jack and Rose through the ship. Oh. Cause he remembers when the ship's sinking, he goes to the safe to get the necklace and then goes, I put the necklace in the coat. And he's actually, by this point, he put the coat on. On Rose to keep her warm. So he's lost the necklace. Ship sinks.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

So Jack and Rose kind of make it to the back of the ship. So. Which is the last bit to go down.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they're with the baker, who's a real guy, that baker. Charles Joffin is the guy's name. Wow. And he is there just basically getting hammered. He got a load of brandy out the kitchen that kept him warm. He survived. So they go down with the baker, and then they're just in the water and there's a bit of wood which people say is a door.

[B]

Not a door.

[A]

It's not a door. It's a bit of a surround from a door.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Which is only big enough, apparently, for one person.

[B]

Now, where do you stand on this? Because I have some thoughts.

[A]

I'm inclined to believe that it is only big enough for one person.

[B]

That's what I think.

[A]

If two people got on it, it would.

[B]

Well. And they show that. I don't know why people have selective memory about this moment, but it's like Jack does try and get on the door, and then it wobbles so much and starts sinking that he decides not to. So I am like, when people think that it's big enough, it's not the bigness. It's that there's not enough buoyancy for two.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

She couldn't have let him off.

[A]

I forgot about that. He does try and get off.

[B]

He does. And then it wobbles. And he's like, it's okay. It's okay. So I don't know why people forget this. It big enough, but not buoyant enough. People.

[A]

Yeah. So that. Remember that. I mean, they could have definitely swapped around at some point, but it's.

[B]

I mean, yeah, he was chivalrous.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's his downfall.

[A]

So that's basically what happens. Jack is hanging onto the door, but in the water, freezes to death. He drops off.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

That's the end of Jack. Rose blows a whistle, gets attention, gets in a lifeboat.

[B]

She's whistling. Yep.

[A]

Yeah. Basically. Cut back to old Rose, and she has got the heart of the ocean, the really expensive diamond, which is what the people who were going on the Titanic expedition wanted. Really, they wanted this. They got the safe from the wreck because they wanted the necklace. Turns out she had it all along, right? And yeah, she chucks it in the sea. Another very strange decision.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I do like that. I like that they wanted this little rich thing so much. And she goes, it's for Jack. And then she throws it to him, you know. Does it make a ton of practical sense? No. But she's in love still. It's okay.

[A]

Which I know I've seen a lot of memes about this so it's kind of well trodden ground. But the more you think about it, the more insane it is that she had a totally three day affair with a guy on a boat.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

And she has lived her whole life.

[B]

But she did remarry, right? Don't we see that she has grandkids of her own or something?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All right. So you know, she had.

[A]

Yeah, she's. She's on the ship with her granddaughter.

[B]

I mean she couldn't wait forever. It was just a vacation crush.

[A]

Yeah, I mean borderline obsessive to be honest. A bit weird, but there you go. That's. That's Titanic.

[B]

That is Titanic. That was a real two VHSer. There's a lot to get into.

[A]

There was a two VHSer. Yeah. I mean we only scratched the surface really. But that's all you need to know.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And I'll be honest, kp, after that I'm getting pretty sleepy, so I gotta turn in. But before I do, we do. Have a good night. Message from a listener named Hussain that I wanted to read. So Hussain says good night to my enemies. I am wishing on your downfall. Into bed. Have a good night's rest.

[B]

I like that. I like that. Hussein has a lot of enemies. I think that means you're doing something right.

[A]

Yeah, you can't. Please, everybody don't.

[B]

Thank you for sending in your message, Hussein. And as a reminder listeners, you can send your goodnight message to us at the nightlyatch code and we might read it out. Good night everybody and good night Matt.

[A]

Good night, KP.

[B]

Sam.

[A]

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