Separate Beds & Sudoku w/ Jenny Zigrino

Summary

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Episode Summary: Separate Beds & Sudoku w/ Jenny Zigrino

Podcast: The Nightly (Hatch Podcasts)
Date: March 4, 2026
Hosts: Jacques & Sophia
Guest: Jenny Zigrino

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Overview

This laid-back episode of The Nightly invites comedian, writer, and performer Jenny Zigrino into the Hatch Pillow Fort for a cozy, candid, and often hilarious conversation about all things sleep: rituals, struggles, and the realities of sharing a bed. The trio swap sleep hygiene tips, vent minor grievances (from mismatched sudoku puzzles to America’s terrible trains), and explore pop culture diversions to unwind before bed. Jenny also gives a glimpse into her current creative projects and leaves listeners with a heartfelt—and gently tongue-in-cheek—bedtime message.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Sleep Routines, Rituals, & Sleep Struggles

• Sleep masks and creative face coverings:

  • Jenny shares a practical tip: “I am a huge fan of the sleep mask... Sometimes just a towel over the eyes, just a towel. Just whatever’s around. Underwear, an old shirt. Just put it on your face.” (03:16)
  • The hosts are equal parts amused and intrigued:
    • Jacques: “If I was sleeping next to somebody who put underwear on their face, we’re not gonna sleep for at least the next hour. You’re teasing me.” (03:36)
    • Sophia: “I love an eye mask… I always have one for if anyone spends a night. And I have earplugs for whenever, like, my friends are over and stuff.” (04:23)

• Sleep positions & bed politics:

  • Jenny and Jacques bond over being “coffin sleepers” with multiple pillows: “I’m a movement sleeper... I’m a kicker. I’m a mover. I am a… I’m doing laps in my sleep... I have like four pillows strategically placed between the legs.” (05:15, 06:19)
  • When a partner is present, everyone agrees—cuddling is for the first 10 minutes, then it’s “butt to butt, or I need you to go.” (06:37–06:47)
  • Sophia stakes her claim: “If I ever live with someone I’m dating, we will be having separate bedrooms. I need my own bed.” (09:41)
  • On weighted blankets: “You cannot share one of those things. And it’s like the hottest thing in the—the hottest thing in the entire world. Like, horrible.” (10:00)

• Pets in bed:

  • Jenny describes accommodating her elderly pug (“she’s mostly blind, so we sleep with the lights on... Last night, I slept horizontally on the bed so as not to disturb her.”) (06:51–07:10)
  • Sophia protects her light sleep by banning the cats from her room at night: “…my cats get absolutely locked out of my room at night.” (07:23)

  Notable Quote:

  • Jacques: “I’m not trying to be in love while I’m sleep. I’m trying to sleep while I’m sleep.” (08:59)

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2. Airing Grievances: Mini Rants for Relaxation

The hosts’ signature segment airs light complaints as bedtime catharsis:

• Sudoku Frustrations (10:56–12:38)

  • Sophia: “The thing that’s been getting under my skin lately… I bought a new book of sudoku puzzles… there’s no uniformity between easy, medium, and hard.”
  • Laments the gap in puzzle difficulty and ponders whether sudoku is “math-based” or just spatial logic.
  • Jacques adds: “I’ve tried Sudoku. I can’t do it—it doesn’t compute in my brain.” (12:07)
  • Jenny: “You were like, math for fun?” (12:18)

• Trivial Trivia Anxieties (14:45–16:55)

  • Jenny: “My grievance is why don’t I know everything immediately right now?” (14:56)
    • Frustration at having to learn things the hard way, with reading and research.
    • Jacques relates, telling a story about failing a quiz on African flags at trivia: “There’s too many red, green, and yellows… I was just like, why don’t I know this?” (15:33–16:55)
  • Sophia admits: “I don’t know a single flag… geography, no flags. I don’t really even know... where most of the states in the United States are.” (16:55)

• Travel in America is Miserable (17:20–20:54)

  • Jacques: “My grievance is it’s too hard to travel in the U.S. … Why am I paying $300 to go on a 50-minute flight? In Europe, I get on a plane, $25.” (17:28–18:52)
  • Everyone groans about the poor state of US public transit, expensive trains, and slow Amtrak options compared to Europe or Japan (“In Japan, every train station is a four-mile underground mall. It’s beautiful.” (20:07–20:37))
  • Jenny: “The idea that, like, America is so advanced, it’s like, what are you talking about? … You go to the bus station in Ireland, there’s shopping, there’s food. … You’ve been to a bus station in Los Angeles? It’s the worst.” (18:52–20:25)

  Notable Quote:

  • Jacques: “Toyota ain’t the reason we ain’t got high speed rail. … Henry Ford, I blame you.” (19:40–20:07)

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3. Jenny’s Projects & Goodnights (21:10–22:55)

• Jenny updates listeners on her varied creative projects:
  • “I’m working on a play I’m so stoked about—about America’s first openly gay general.” (21:10)
  • “Doing stand-up, writing screenplays, taping my special in New York City in May.” (21:29)
  • “You can find me on social…dressing up in colonial drag… that’s also a thing I do and I’ll never stop.” (21:46)
• Goodnight wish:
  • Jenny: “I’m gonna say goodnight to all the lovers out there, to all the dreamers, to all the people that believe in themselves... and just keep working at it and get a lot of money.” (22:23)
  • Sophia chimes in: “With some funding, you can do anything!” (22:50)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On separate beds:

  • “If I ever live with someone I’m dating, we will be having separate bedrooms. I need my own bed.” — Sophia (09:41)

• On sleep as not-romance:

  • “I’m not trying to be in love while I’m sleep. I’m trying to sleep while I’m sleep.” — Jacques (08:59)

• On creative bedding:

  • “Sometimes just a towel over the eyes, just a towel. Just whatever’s around. Underwear, an old shirt. Just put it on your face.” — Jenny (03:16)

• On America’s transportation woes:

  • “You go to the bus station in Ireland, there’s shopping, there’s food. … In Japan, every train station is a four-mile underground mall.” — Jenny (20:25–20:37)

• Jenny’s Goodnight:

  • "To all the lovers, to all the dreamers, to all the people that believe in themselves ... just keep working at it and get a lot of money." (22:23)

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Important Timestamps

• Sleep routines, creative masking: 03:16–04:06
• Sleep positions & pillow talk: 05:15–06:09
• Pets in bed, partner politics: 06:51–07:44
• Separate beds, weighted blanket gripes: 09:41–10:13
• Airing grievances segment: 10:30–14:56
  • Sophia’s sudoku rant: 10:56–12:38
  • Jenny’s trivia grievance: 14:56–15:33
  • Jacques’ international travel rant: 17:20–20:54
• Jenny’s projects & promotions: 21:10–21:59
• Jenny’s goodnight message: 22:23–22:54

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Tone & Dynamics

• Warm, friendly, and irreverent with genuine humor and moments of vulnerability.
• The language is casual, vivid, and peppered with comedic asides and gentle teasing.
• The trio share personal quirks—both trivial and profound—about sleep, self-knowledge, and the realities of adult life.
• Listeners get practical tips, commiseration, and a sense of camaraderie, all delivered with the feel of a late-night sleepover among friends.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode is the aural equivalent of kicking back with close friends at midnight. Whether you’re seeking advice for better sleep, reassurance that you’re not alone in wanting your own blanket (or bed), or just want to laugh about the absurdities of sudoku and American travel, Jacques, Sophia, and Jenny provide the perfect bedtime company. Their closing wishes send you off feeling lighter, reminding you to chase your dreams, one restful night at a time.

Transcript

[A]

Hello.

[B]

You're about to drift into an episode of the Nightly a podcast designed to help you unwind and relax. For the full phone free immersive light experience. Visit Hatch Co. Enjoy.

[C]

Hey there. I'm Sophia.

[A]

Hi, I'm Jack Heaths. Welcome to the Nightly from Hatch a slumber party for all you pop culture lovers in the sheets coming in from the streets. What's up, Sophia? How are you?

[C]

I'm pretty good. I'm having an amazing week and I'm having an amazing evening. I'm feeling highly positive.

[A]

I love it.

[C]

I'm having a good week. I've had some shows and I have some more shows coming up and that's really fun. And yeah, I can't complain. It's always good when I get to do standup comedy at night.

[A]

I love a positive evening. Especially because we have somebody joining us on our little slumber party tonight who I am a huge fan of. I've done things with them in the standup realm. Got a, you know, a slumber party. So we gotta, we gotta, we gotta clarify. We gotta clarify. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's so funny. She's amazing. And please say hello and welcome to the Pillow Fort. Jenny Zagrino. What's up, Jenny?

[D]

Hi. I feel like I have to make my voice a little quieter and more sexy for this.

[A]

I mean, you know, listen, we'll never turn down a sexy voice.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, that's like a little more, hey, how are you? Normally I'd be shouting into this microphone. I'd be screaming my face off.

[C]

Having some sultry asmr.

[D]

A little bit.

[C]

Just a little, a little bit.

[D]

I'm into it.

[A]

A little midnight rumble. Remember like when you would be in the car late at night and then the radio station would change to like the slow songs and the dude with the deep voice? Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Or the. Did you ever listen to the paranormal guy?

[A]

No, what's that?

[D]

There's a guy, he's got a famous show where he just does aliens and like ghost stories and people call in ooh la la late night with like their alien stories.

[C]

Oh, I love that. I'm like, turn off the sexy channel. Put on the ghost channel.

[D]

Put on the ghost. Yeah, because I want, I want when I'm driving down a very dark highway

[A]

to think of to know that there's

[D]

a ghost in my backseat.

[A]

Because you're never alone.

[C]

No.

[A]

You know what Michael Jackson say, You are not alone.

[C]

Never ever.

[A]

He meant it. Wise words, wise words. Wise words. For sure, Jenny. We always want to know because we're always looking for more tips to drift off into dreamland beautifully. Do you have any bedtime routines? Any sleep hygiene tips? Any things that you do that helps you fall asleep, stay asleep, get great sleep?

[D]

So I am a huge fan of the sleep mask of a light blocker. So a sleep mask is great. Sometimes just a towel over the eyes, just a towel. Just whatever's around. Underwear, an old shirt. Just put it on your face.

[A]

Listen, if. If I was sleeping next to somebody who put underwear on their face, we're not gonna sleep for at least the next next hour. So I'm just like, you're teasing me.

[C]

I have a lot of questions for sure.

[D]

Oh, I thought you would be disgusted.

[A]

No, no, no, I'm not disgusted at all. No, no, no, not at all.

[D]

Let me get that underwear off your face.

[A]

You already. You already did half the battle. You took it all.

[D]

Whatever. Whatever is around. Yoga pants. Yes, whatever.

[A]

This is interesting because one, we've had a couple people say sleep masks and just covering the face and I. I think. Well, I don't know about you, Sophia, actually, which is. Which is wild that we haven't talked about this, but I'm a blackout curtains person as well. Are you?

[C]

I. Okay. I'm a sleep mask person and I don't have blackout. I actually, I didn't move that recently, but I still need to get curtains for my room. So I'm like, kind of like raw dogging the sunlight right now. But I do like, need a. I need a mask. Cuz, like, I'm. I'm a sensitive sleeper. I love it. I love an eye mask. And I have, I always have one for if anyone spends a night. And I have earplugs for whenever, like, my friends are over and stuff. Because I'm like, I'm gonna hook you up because we're gonna be sleeping in a senseless chamber where you have no, no awareness of any of your surroundings or your senses. It's gonna be completely blackout. It's gonna be amazing.

[A]

That's the best sleep. That's the best sleep. I'm also intrigued, Jenny. Like, you say you can use a towel or just anything besides like something that wraps around your face. Are you like a coffin sleeper? Like, do you not move at all?

[D]

No, I move so much, it's actually a problem.

[A]

Okay. And it stays on your face. Like, if it's not like wrapped around, it doesn't though. Okay.

[D]

It does move around, but I'm a movement sleeper. I am a side sleeper. And then I do have like four pillows strategically Placed between the legs.

[A]

Me too.

[D]

Okay, under the head, then arm wrapped around one, and then under the other arm. That's down is one. So that's the down one's at an angle.

[C]

Can you explain the arms again to me? I want to visualize this.

[A]

I know exactly what you're talking about, because I sleep the same way.

[D]

So if I'm on my left side, right arm is around a pillow, Left arm is propped up by another pillow.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Okay. That's beautiful.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. And I'm a kicker. I'm a mover. I am a. I'm a shaker. I'm a shaker. I'm a. You know, I'm doing laps in my sleep.

[A]

It is.

[D]

I might be stressed.

[A]

It's a.

[C]

You know, I'm also a major sleep, like, tossing and turning. And it's not. It's okay for me. The second I have someone in my bed, I'm like, I'm really sorry. And actually, you can't be here. I'm going to go to the couch. Yeah.

[D]

Oh, 100%. It's like, when you have someone, you're like, okay, I can spoon you for, like, 10 minutes. And then it's going to be either butt to butt.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

All right. Don't look at me. Don't talk to me.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Or I'm going to be like, I need to. You need to go.

[C]

You got to go.

[A]

Absolutely.

[D]

I need this space. However, last night. So I have a dog, a little tiny pug. She sleeps in the bed. She is mostly blind, so we sleep with the lights on, and she makes her way to the middle of the bed. Last night, I slept. Instead of vertically, I slept horizontally on the bed.

[C]

That's so cute.

[D]

Cause she was in the middle, and I was like, I'm not gonna disturb her.

[A]

That's so sweet.

[D]

So I just slept at the top of the bed.

[C]

That's really sweet.

[A]

I love my pets to death, but when it comes to, like, my comfort, I'm like, you gots to move.

[C]

Get.

[A]

Get out of here.

[C]

Same. And with the sleep, it's just so sacred. And I'm so such a light sleeper that my cats get absolutely locked out of my room at night. And then in the morning, they're, like, really calling out the door, and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You have everything you need out there except for me.

[A]

Yeah, you got a whole house.

[D]

I tried to, like, for a while to get her to sleep on the floor because I'm scared, because she's old. That she's going to fall off the bed. So now I have to buy

[A]

by them steps.

[D]

I'm so single. I'm such a single woman.

[C]

She needs, literally a crib.

[D]

I'm gonna make my bed into a crib so she doesn't fall.

[A]

You almost got all the pillows to do it. You know, you got just lock her. I know, right? Lock her into the pillow.

[D]

But then she cries so much. She cries like crazy. And it's like she's a pug. So it's not like cute whimpering.

[C]

It's like it's a screech.

[D]

Screeching. It's screeching at the bottom of the bed.

[C]

It's beautiful.

[A]

You said something, Jenny, that, like, I, you know, I appreciate so much because in the fantasy world of romance, there's this notion that when it's sleep time, we're supposed to be, like, cuddled up all night and just like in each other's arms and all this stuff. And then there is a very common stereotype, and I say this is a stereotype to people who've never been in real relationships where it's like, if we sleeping back to back, that means we're not in love. I'm like, well, if you don't get your ass off of me while I like, we can start. Like you said, we could start cuddling 10, 15 minutes. Whether that leads to sleep or fun, and then sleep, whatever it leads to. But eventually we back to back get. You can be four feet away from me on the bed. I don't care. Like, I'm not trying to be in love while I'm sleep. I'm trying to sleep while I'm sleep.

[D]

Yep, exactly.

[A]

I love that. I love that whenever somebody else says the same thing, that's.

[D]

I feel, like, vindictive when they whisper. I'm gonna turn over now.

[A]

Yeah, hey, you're beautiful. And I'm gonna turn over now.

[D]

I'm gonna stop touching you because what's that arm? What's the bottom arm supposed to do?

[C]

Yeah, no one knows when you're cuddling.

[A]

Go to feel like static.

[C]

This is also part of my dream, which is that if I ever live with someone I'm dating, we will be having separate bedrooms. I need my own bed.

[D]

My cousins, they sleep with separate blankets. They each have their own blanket.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Respect.

[A]

I had that with an ex of mine who we used to live together, and we had weighted blankets.

[C]

And you cannot share one of those things.

[A]

You can't, because we need different weights.

[C]

Yeah. And it's like the Hottest thing in the. Being under a weighted blanket with someone would be the hottest thing in the entire world. Like, horrible.

[A]

It's the worst. It's the worst.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, you know, it sounds like we're already airing some grievances, you know what I'm saying? So how about we just air some more?

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Sophia, Jenny, tonight we are going to air some minor, some low stakes grievances with each other. You know, we want to know what's bothering. We want to know what's bothering us all. Because if it's bothering us three, it got to be bothering other people in the world. So I feel like we should rile it up tonight. Sophia, do you have any grievances you want to air out right now?

[C]

Okay. Basically, the thing that's really been getting under my skin lately is that I bought a new book of Sudoku puzzles. Whatever. Because I love doing Sudoku and I always do it on my phone, but I really want to be on that thing less. And I would just say that with sudoku in general, I have a major affinity for it, but I struggle with the fact that there's no uniformity between easy, medium, and hard, depending on where playing Sudoku first of all. So it's like if you're doing it on, for example, the New York Times, that means something different than the easy, medium, hard in the book that I'm doing.

[A]

Oh, interesting.

[C]

Furthermore, the main thing that's bothering me is that I can't get the medium in this book that I got is just a little bit too hard. And I feel like the easy is just a little bit too easy. So I'm like, I can kind of breeze through the easy parts. Then I get to the medium, I get stuck. And I'm struggling with that. I think what I need to do is honestly learn some new stoku strategies, because I know that there's new strategies for me to learn, and I'm open to it. But that's just something that is a bit bothersome to me right now is I'm stuck on a puzzle. I can't get through it. And no matter how hard I try

[A]

now, I will say, like, I'm in. I've tried Sudoku. I can't do it, and I cannot do it. I can't. It doesn't. It doesn't compute in my brain.

[D]

Yeah, you were like, math for fun.

[C]

No, it's not math. I really want to clarify. Like, I'm not a numbers guy. It's more of like a puzzle, I would say. And I find that it is really a muscle that you have to exercise. Like, you can get a lot better very quickly. But I'm not math coded.

[A]

You know, here's what I think. When people like, who do numbers be like, it's not math based. I'd be like, I think you're not giving yourself credit.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Because I think you are math based and you just don't think you are. Because to those of us that aren't, this sounds math based.

[C]

It really. I just can't stress enough that it's not though, because you're not. You're doing no addition subtract like it is. It's simply seeing where there are like holes missing, basically. And you're seeing what fits in where. But it has nothing. I am curious, I wonder if when you get to a higher level of stoku, it is math. Because when I do it, it's literally no math.

[D]

What if you're actually just doing word puzzles and you just don't know?

[C]

So I'm doing a word.

[D]

You're just doing a crossword.

[C]

No, but crossword is the one that I'm bad at. I'm. And I love, I love, like, word games. Like, I love like word searches and like Boggle and Scrabble and stuff like that. But the crossword I'm really bad at. I think that's also one that you get a lot better at with practice. And I'm just like completely non practiced.

[A]

The last. The last person I was dating, you know, got the New York Times game subscription that has like wordle and. And all of that. And she was doing it a lot. And then I downloaded it. And I'm generally bad at crosswords too. So I don't even try the big one. I just do the mini crossword because I'm like, that feels like my speed. And like, sometimes I'll like, do it really quick where I'll be like a minute and a half and I'll be like, yeah. And then sometimes it'll take me like 7 to 12 minutes to do the mini. But I'm like, oh, the quick ones are cool. And then I'm looking at hers and hers was like 30 seconds, 52 seconds. And I just stopped doing it. And I was like, I'm done. I'm not doing this no more. Made me feel stupid. Like, I was like, I'm up here thinking I'm doing something, and you up here solving these crosswords in 35 seconds. Like, what?

[C]

I know people really, like, got it like that. They like the crossword in particular, people really know what is up in a way that I'm, like, super unfamiliar.

[D]

Yeah, well, it's trivia. It's words. People love it.

[C]

I'm like, trivia is not me.

[D]

I love trivia.

[A]

I do love trivia.

[D]

Actually. My. My grievances kind of has to do with this.

[C]

Oh, wait, wait. You should go.

[D]

My grievance is, why don't I know everything immediately right now?

[C]

Totally. Yeah.

[D]

I get so frustrated. Cause I'm, like, starting to read more and get into, like, I'm a big history nerd. I like books, I like learning. And I get so frustrated that I don't know everything right now immediately when I should know it. And I'm just like, why do I have to do a billion steps to just know.

[A]

Just know stuff?

[D]

One thing so that I. So that I most of all, can be right.

[C]

Of course.

[D]

Okay. That's the only reason. First and foremost, I just want to know everything right now.

[A]

That's fair. Thank goodness you are born in this era of life. Because before we had to, like, go to the library and get encyclopedias to, like, yeah, learn stuff, and now we got the Internet. But I feel like in a hundred years, those people will just have the chip right in their brain and be like. And then it'll just upload right there and then, like, those are the folks that's going to know everything, right? And it's going to be a. It's probably be a miserable time in the human existence. But, like, I feel this. So when. Whenever I do trivia nights. So, you know, I do like a trivia night. And I did a trivia night the other day, and I was so disappointed in myself as a black man. But, like, the. It was a picture round. And he put up 12 African flags and was like, identify these African flags. And I was like, I can't identify one of these African flags. There's too many red, green and yellows. Like, and it's like they all look the same.

[D]

And.

[A]

And I was just like, why don't I know this? Now, granted, everybody in the room did

[C]

bad, of course, but

[D]

we were all idiots that day. We were all bad.

[A]

We all were stupid. But I wanted to be good. And I just wish I had, like, I could, like, access a part of my brain that even just saw it once and could be like, oh, the way.

[C]

I don't know a single flag. It's like, when it comes to anything geography, it's like, no flags. I don't really even know, like, full transparency. Like, where most of the states in like the United States are.

[A]

That's okay, that's fine. That's geography. That's different.

[C]

Chiquis. Do you have one?

[A]

I do have one. I do. My grievance is it's too hard to

[D]

travel in the U.S. yes, 100%.

[A]

I've been lucky enough to travel more internationally. And getting around from city to city, country to country is so much easier and so much cheaper. These airlines is too much like, why AM I paying $300 to go on a 50 minute to 75 minute flight, like round trip? That's crazy. Like in Europe, I get on a plane, $25. Now that plane wings is flapping, you know what I'm saying? It's a cheap flight. It's okay though.

[D]

There's no seats.

[A]

There's no seats. You stand in the hotel, it's like, you know, it's a bus, it's a train in the air. So I understand that. Still, like, it's so easy to like get a cheap flight to go to another country now. You know, I get the United States is a big collection of states and blah, blah, blah, but man, like, we ain't got no high speed rail. The Amtrak take 58 hours to go between three states and it's always late. And they never own time. Like, it's too hard to travel in this country. And I'm tired of it. I'm tired of it.

[D]

I fully agree. The idea that like America is somehow. We're so advanced, it's like, what are you talking about? I can't.

[C]

I'm like, who said that?

[D]

Yeah. Without the whole day. Like, without the whole day. Meanwhile, I was recently in London and I did a show in Manchester. Driving, it would be four and a half hours, but it's two hours on the train.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. No, I mean the train. I really am like, wake that up. Because it's actually crazy. Like, first of all, the trains here are so much slower than everywhere else. Like there's no like high speed, like train, really. And then also, like, they're so expensive. Like the trains like in other places are so much cheaper. But the Amtrak, they want to rob you blind. Know that.

[A]

Yeah. And you know who I blame? Henry Ford.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

T. Henry Ford. Henry Ford.

[C]

I was gonna say Robert Moses too. There's a lot of people to blame.

[A]

There's a few people we can blame. But I'm gonna put it on.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Anybody who's driving a Ford car right now, I blame you for keeping this, keeping that legacy alive.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Yeah. You should have been getting a prius

[A]

like the rest should have been getting the Prius. Toyota ain't the reason we ain't got high speed rail.

[D]

Yeah. Toyota, Japan's got high speed rail.

[C]

Exactly. It's not their fault.

[A]

See, it's 4's fault completely.

[D]

Also just to add to that, ports of travel in the rest of the world are wonderful.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

You've been to a bus station in Los Angeles.

[A]

It's the worst.

[B]

Horrifying.

[A]

It's the worst.

[D]

You go to the bus station in Ireland. There's shopping, there's food. It's fun. There's stuff.

[A]

There's stuff. It's a mall.

[C]

Yeah, it's a whole mall.

[A]

It's basically a little mall. Yeah. In Japan, every train station is a four mile underground mall. It's insane. It's insane. It's beautiful. That's my grievance.

[D]

I like that rant. That's a good one.

[A]

I feel good. Do you guys feel good?

[C]

I feel good. I feel lighter.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh my gosh.

[C]

Before we officially wrap up though, we want to ask Jenny if there's anything that our listeners should check out that you've been working on, anything that you want to promote and where we could find it.

[D]

Your girl's got project on project on project.

[B]

Love it.

[D]

Is she getting paid for any of it?

[C]

No, no, but one day. So not about that.

[D]

I'm working on a play I'm like so stoked about.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

About America's first openly gay general.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

So that's why I'm reading Order and Discipline of the Troops. I'm doing stand up writing screenplays, taping my special Love it in New York City in May.

[A]

You got a galgoin.

[C]

Amazing.

[D]

And then you'll, you can find me on, you know, on the social medias, dressing up in colonial drag.

[A]

I love it.

[D]

That is also a thing I do and I'll never stop.

[A]

No, don't stop. Never stop.

[C]

That's a promise.

[A]

Yes. Well, Jenny, thank you so much. This has been beautiful. It's been a beautiful time in the Ford.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Thank you all for having me. This is wonderful.

[C]

Do you want to give a quick good night to anyone? Usually we have our guests do a little good night. It can be to someone something, anything that is in is front of mind right now.

[D]

I'm gonna say goodnight to all the lovers out there, to all the dreamers, to all the people that believe in themselves and are betting on themselves and know that there's greatness inside of them and they just, if they just keep working at it and get a lot of money.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Behind their projects.

[A]

I love it.

[D]

It'll probably happen. Other than that, it's gonna be a real hard world. But you know what? You can do it.

[C]

You can do it. With some funding, you can do anything.

[D]

Some funding.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, thank you so much for that.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Thank you so much, Jenny. Good night to the. To the lovers, the dreamers, and the schemers out there. So until next time. Good night, Sophia. Good night, Jenny.

[C]

Good night, Jacques. Good night, Jenny.

[D]

Good night, y'.

[C]

All.

[B]

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