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Hello. You're about to drift into an episode of the Nightly, a podcast designed to help you unwind and relax. For the full phone free immersive light experience, visit Hatch Co. Enjoy. Alright, I'm Mat.
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And I'm kp. Welcome to the Nightly from Hatch, where your late night thoughts go to rest.
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Kp, who would you say is your favorite snooker player?
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Gosh, it's such a huge toss up between Jimmy the Snooka Peplington. I mean he's just one of the best there is, but maybe second best would be. Is it you?
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Do you know what? Both of those were actually quite close.
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Jimmy the Snooka Peppington.
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Alright. I mean not that close, but big snooker player.
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Okay.
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Jimmy White.
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Oh my goodness.
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He was huge in the sort of 90s 2000s.
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Oh my goodness.
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Wow. And when you said you. Yeah, Woo Yizza won it this year.
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That's really, really wild. Wow.
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Scarily good snooker knowledge from you there, kp.
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Okay, wait, can you. I'm really honestly forgetting. I know you brought up snooker before, but what is this again?
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Like pool. Yeah, but a bigger table. And you've got a triangle of reds at one end of the table. You've then got the bulk cushion, which is the top cushion. You've got the yellow, green, brown ball. You've got a blue ball in the middle, then you've got pink. Then you've got a black ball at the head of the reds.
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Are the balls smaller or the same size as a billiards ball?
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I would say probably slightly smaller.
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Okay.
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And the pockets are slightly tighter.
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Okay.
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But the table is way bigger.
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This is interesting. All right, now this has been around a while. Have you been playing for a while? I forget.
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I don't really play. It's so hard.
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Oh, wow.
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Okay, so the table is 12 foot by 6 foot.
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12ft is really, really long. That's huge.
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Yeah. And then 6ft wide, so it's big to be good at snooker is so impressive. And I played very occasionally with mates. I'd love to play more, but it's a really, really tough game.
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Wow.
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Great to watch though.
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Is it generally get the balls in the pockets?
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Pretty much. That's basically the aim of the game. So your maximum break would be 147. That's like getting a nine data or a hole in one. Okay, I say nine data there. Are you okay with darts or is that for another episode?
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I know darts. Okay. I know darts.
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Yeah. So nine data there. The equivalent is a 147, which is red ball, black ball, red Bull, black ball, Red Bull for 14 reds, 14 blacks and then yellow, green, brown, blue, pink, black.
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So that's a perfect game.
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That's a perfect game.
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Okay.
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Which is just. I mean, the skill that takes is incredible.
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Now, did you see this in person? This is something you went to recently?
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Yes, I did.
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Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
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Okay, so the World Championships are held in Sheffield every year, and it's been at a place called the Crucible Theater in Sheffield, the same place since 1977. Whoa. And there's been loads of money kind of pumped into the game recently and loads of Middle Eastern investment and stuff. And they want to take the World Championships and move it to, like a big arena. And there was big campaigns to basically keep at the crucible. It's only 800 seats, this theater, so it's really kind of tiny in comparison to an arena thing.
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Did you have to fight to get the tickets a little bit or.
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Well, we're sort of. Me and my mate that go. I'm not proud to say this. We do kind of grift it a little bit. We know a couple of people who know a couple of people.
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You have the Snooker Inn, We've got
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a couple of snooker ins.
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Wow.
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So we did get along to it through them and consequently we got some great tickets as well. We got. So one of the things that was included with that was a picture with the World Championship trophy.
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Wow.
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Pretty cool.
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Now, were you. Did the guy you wanted to win win?
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He did, actually. I liked both the guys in the final.
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Yeah.
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It was a guy called Sean Murphy against this Chinese lad who's 22. Great story. Wu Yiza. He moved to Sheffield, which is where the World Championships are, when he was 12, with his whole family.
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Okay.
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No money. So they lived in a one bed flat in Sheffield. He had to share a bed with his dad. Like it was really rags to riches.
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And.
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And his first World Championships this year, he won it 22 years old.
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This is always so fascinating when people get involved with these kind of, not obscure, but certainly not like mainstream popular sports, because I am like, there's many such beautiful stories where it's like a kid that, you know, didn't have much decided to like do shot put and now he's in the Olympics and I'm like, how did he decide to. Did you shot put? Where was he doing that? I mean, I go even further. I go, how many great gifted snooker players are there that just don't have access to a snooker table because they have no idea where to find one?
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Yeah. There's probably loads of great snooker players and we'll never know.
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Yeah. Or like javelin. I was like, what if I. What if I could have been incredible at javelin? I never would have known. I didn't. They didn't have it at my school.
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Did you try it?
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You didn't? Never. I mean, maybe it's not too late.
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You could be the greatest javelin player the world's ever seen.
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I don't know if I have a javelin's build, but again, I kind of don't know a lot.
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Maybe a javelin's build, I don't know. Do you have a spike on your head?
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I don't know if I'm 12ft tall and you know, 1 inch diameter. I just don't know if I have a javelin's build. Yeah, to be clear, I meant I thought I could be the best javelin that people throw.
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Ah, yes.
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It's very interesting how hard you gotta work sometimes to find these obscure sports. Snooker I'm sure included.
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Yeah. It's sort of luck of the draw. But also with. So there was a Chinese winner last year as well. Wu years was Chinese and basically there's a snooker player called Ding Jun Hui who's never won it. Consequently, snooker blew up in China.
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Wow.
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And as you can imagine, for something to blow up in China, like that's huge amount of people, huge amount of interest.
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Yeah.
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And Dingjun, we started a academy over here in Sheffield. I don't know it's in Sheffield or whether it's. I'm sure it's in the UK somewhere.
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That is so cool.
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And so a load of Chinese players would. They'd obviously start playing in China and then if they could manage to get the money together, they would go to Ding's academy. But yeah, the dedication. I got a photo, that's me and my mate and Wu Yiza.
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Wow. Oh, he looks cool too. He's got a cool little jacket and outfit.
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He has got a cool. So that's the snooker outfit that has been the same for years. White, well, not necessarily white shirt, but a shirt, waistcoat and a decibo. Whoa.
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Oh. So you dress up kind of old school fancy for this?
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It's a pretty fancy sport on that front. Yeah. Always, you know, shiny black shoes, black trousers. Wow.
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Yeah, that is really interesting. Does it take a while? Like what's an average game?
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Anything from probably, I mean you could see. So they're in frames and if you go to watch then there's eight frames in a session, so you get to see eight, but it could be 10 minutes. If somebody just gets on a run, it could be all done in nine, 10 minutes easy. Or the flip side, if it goes to a real tactical strategic game. There was a frame during the final or the semifinal. I think that went to like an hour and a half. Hour and 40 minutes.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Okay. You have a lot of interesting recreational activities that you're. You're putting on your punch card.
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Yeah, very niche. Amateur sportsman overall.
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Yeah.
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Have you. What's the. What's the latest on you? You weren't playing pad or were you more of a pickable?
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Yeah, but I haven't played in a bit. You know, these days I'm just kind of hitting the good old fashioned weights.
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Nice.
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You know, there's nothing wrong with just going back to basics. I did just join. I can scooter to my gym now. So things are very, very fun because I can get a little electric scooter in the day, feel the wind in my hair. So I electric scooter over and then it's an outdoor gym which I find la. That's just. You can't beat it.
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Wow, that's cool.
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You know, you get a little sunshine, a little wind, fresh air.
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I've never seen an outdoor gym before.
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Yeah, I think in non moist climates it definitely works better so that all the machines aren't rusted.
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Makes total sense actually.
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So this works well for our climate, but not, not so well for everywhere else, I would imagine. And even still the machines are kind of. They take a beating.
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Do you know what I started doing very recently? Might fall off. Have you heard of the 75 hard thing?
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Oh my gosh. Boy, have I. That is, I mean, misery. That's pure misery.
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Is it something you've attempted?
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No. So this is. Stop me when I'm wrong. This is 75 minutes a day of like movement.
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More than that. Two 45 minute workouts.
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Oh my God.
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But that could be like a 45
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minute walk and then you have to read. Right. Is there a reading element to this? No.
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Read 10 pages.
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Read 10 pages. That part I like. That's a nice part.
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That's great.
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Mm. That part is more easy than two 45 minute workout. And then what's the. There's another thing.
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There's like, I think. Was it five, five rules in total. So yeah. No, no. No junk food or cheat meals.
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Okay.
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I think drink 4 gallons of water.
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A gallon. Oh my gosh. You're gonna drown. You're gonna drown.
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I've drunk too much water.
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You're just sloshing around all day. Okay. And then if you miss anything, you start again from day one. Yeah, Yeah.
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I have already made some compromises in that I'm not doing it for 75 days. What with the World cup coming up. I thought 50 days is fair.
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That's a nice evener number. Anyway, 75, there's nothing good about that number.
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There's also a caveat of I am away this weekend.
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Okay. We paused.
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I might like a beer. So we'll see.
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There's such a thing as 75 soft.
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I saw that. Just doesn't sound as impressive, does it? But who am I trying to impress?
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Exactly. Here's the other thing that I'm seeing about 75 hard is 10 pages of a non fiction reading per day is technically the rule that I guess I understand it, but it's almost like saying nonfiction is better or more important reading than fiction. And I guess I could see that. But I like fiction. It's good for my brain, personally.
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I agree. I think fiction is actually incredibly underrated in terms of how beneficial it is.
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Yeah, I think so. I mean, I've always been an imaginative little kid and, you know, I just enjoy. I think it's. Well, you've heard this thing where it's like, can you picture things in your head when you're reading them? And I do. I'm able to. I can, like, picture what's going on. And so I want to use that to go off to crazy places and read fiction and think about things that aren't real.
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Absolutely.
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But I like a documentary. Watching. There's reason in the season for everything. Don't get me wrong.
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Agreed. Yeah. I mean, what I've compromised with on that front is I've got. I read like. I read 10 pages today of what is nonfiction, but it's not.
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You have that historical fiction one, right, that you're reading?
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Oh, yeah. That's all done, actually. That was good.
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Oh, good. Okay.
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Yeah. That was Essex Dogs. Dan Jones.
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Good book. Good book, Good book. Okay. I haven't made much headway on my vampire historian one.
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Oh, yeah. What was the day we had it.
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This was like a 700 and something page book about that. Was it so long A historian and his daughter figuring out if Dracula perhaps is still alive. I moved to a different book, but I'm gonna try. I'm really, really bad at this. Really bad at having two books going at once. I really have to finish one book before I go to the next because in my head, I can't keep multiple paused stories at once going on that. Well. But I'm really gonna try it this time because I have a few short books. And I go, okay, if I can just remember one long, big story in my head. These short books, I'll just get them done in the meantime.
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Yeah, nice. I like a short book. It's like when people talk about ego lifting at the gym.
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Yes.
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Yeah. But I just feel good about myself just for a bit. I finish a book quite quickly.
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I'll even do some poetry. Hey, it's all. Reading is a net Good. This is sometimes what I think is. And sometimes I feel this way about. Like, there's just certain things that I go, I'm not gonna feel bad for the way that I do the good thing. I'm doing the good thing. I'm reading.
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That is such a good point. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I read a great article by. I can't remember the woman's name, where it came from, but it was so it was about reading.
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Yeah.
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And she basically said in that how she was trying to get better at just stopping reading books when she stopped enjoying them and not powering through anymore.
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I really need to learn this lesson.
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It feels great when somebody else tells you that's okay to do that.
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I know I need to learn this lesson because I do have an ego. I have an ego where it's like, I started it and by God, I'll finish it. But it's like, then it's such a chore. Then it turns the whole evening, which I enjoy reading at evening. It turns the whole evening into this, like, power through. I'm fighting.
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Yeah. Which is insane when you think about if you applied that to. If you watched, like, the first episode of the Sopranos and went, this isn't for me. But, by God, you have to watch eight seasons. I will spend the next 80 hours watching it.
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But sometimes, I mean, there are a few books that I'm like, ugh, I would have been really missing out if I didn't stick it out. It's like, oh, that got good at the end. Or it's like, wow, that was a whole new perspective shifters. But I will say they're a little few and far between.
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How often is it where you. Most of the book's rubbish when you go at the end was worth it. Yeah. I don't know if I've ever experienced that.
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There's some that I've been like, okay, you pulled it off. Barely. But I resent you for putting me through what you put me through.
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Make it a really long letter as well. Meandering.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Have you ever, have you ever got into any classic stuff like Shakespeare or anything?
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I just bought. This was just last weekend I bought the Canterbury Tales because. Well, firstly, shorter. Yes, absolutely. Because I've been told that it's very, very funny.
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Oh yeah.
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And entertaining. Yeah, I've been told because I was talking to my friend about how some of the ancient Greek plays that I do like, some are very funny and still are. Just, it's still our sense of humor and I find that so fun and cool where it's like, you know, you read Lysistrata and you're like, I get this joke. How crazy is that? That I really get all of these jokes.
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That's really cool. I recommend is the joke we talk like, is it sort of slapstick stuff or are they doing like puns in ancient Greece?
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Yeah, they're definitely doing puns. I mean, yeah, there's tons of puns, but there is a lot of Lysistrata. I mean, I haven't read Lysistrata in a decade, but they're doing a lot of like I hate my husband jokes, which are, you know, just classic, where it's just, you know, there's a lot of just archetypes that still work where it's like, oh my God, that annoying guy we all have to avoid. Or like my husband only wants one thing jokes and there's just a lot
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of my mother in law's coming round very.
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There's tons of those. So it's just these archetypes that you look back and you're like, oh, so for 2,000 years that has still been. The joke is like, my husband's lazy.
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That is fascinating.
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Yes. That one's a really fun one. I'm trying to remember some of the, I mean the old Shakespeare's I find pretty funny, but I'm like the ancient Greeks to me, funnier than Shakespeare.
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Interesting. He would hate that.
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Well, my goodness, hasn't he had enough praise?
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I think he has arguably, I think too much. But that might be for another day.
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I mean, even last year they had him. Basically, Paul Mescal just played him. Isn't that one of the greatest gifts you can receive? Is Paul Mescal playing you?
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I'm not.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Did you go and watch that?
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I read the book. Speaking of books.
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Oh yes, you did, didn't you?
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I remember you saying, but I only started the movie and you know, this is. And I never feel bad, as you just said, when I start a movie and I go, eh, I'm not In the mood for this. I can tell. I got 12 minutes in and I realized I'm not in the mood for it, so I turned it off. So it's kind of like, you know, I should do this with my books, too. I get a little bit.
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You should do it with your books. Yeah. Just very quickly, Hamnet. Shakespeare didn't write that, did he?
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So Shakespeare wrote Hamlet.
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That's. Yeah, yeah.
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But then this is sort of a historical fiction version where back in that time, Hamnet and Hamlet were the same name. Like it was just the same name.
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Right.
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So she just sort of changed the name, the name of Hamlet to Hamnet and as if. What if this writer wrote this about his son?
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I see.
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I think, okay, I hope I'm not butchering that. But that's what I remember the book to be about.
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It seemed like a really. I know. It got really good reviews and I saw. I went to the cinema quite a few times when it was out, and I saw the trailer a lot and I thought, it looks like quite a sweet film.
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That counts. You basically saw it.
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A five minute trailer. I do think half time you go, yeah, I kind of get the gist of that.
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Oh, here's my grievance, too. The trailers are getting. They're spoiling too much. I'm not even that intense about spoilers. To me, I go, it's all about the journey. It's fine. I'm not too intense about spoilers. But lately I'm seeing the whole movie in these trailers. I don't need to see multiple arcs and plot points. You don't need to show me how the character grows in the trailer just so.
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Right. That's what the film is for.
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Because I watched a trailer for some action movie that looked really bad. And I think this movie's been out for a million years. But I just was watching the trailer for Beekeeper with Jason Statham.
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No, but I mean, I guess, probably interchangeable with most Jason Statham films.
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This one is like, he's a beekeeper, but also he's exposing a hive of lies.
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Of course he is.
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And they think they have him doing an American accent, which I had to question mark the whole five minute trailer. I go, is he. Is that what he thinks that is?
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Oh, no.
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In the trailer, you're like, you see, it's like his wife dies and then he goes here and he blows up the building. And then that guy, the boss dies and then he has to take on the vp. So it's like, oh, my God. It seems as if You've just told me five major plot points of this Jason Statham movie.
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I think, yeah, you could, with most trailers, come away and blag that you've seen the whole film.
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Yeah, well, especially, I think, in actions and horrors. I mean, they're just giving their best moments away because they want you to be like, oh, look, you're gonna feel things. And it's like, oh, I didn't. I just.
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Is there a big new horror film coming out soon? Did I see an advert for it with.
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Oh, hokum.
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Hokum. That was it. With the weird teeth.
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That looks good. Yeah.
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Interesting.
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Adam Scott is in that. That looks good to me. I'm curious. Then also there was Lee Cronin's the Mummy, but I'm not gonna see that one.
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Is that of any relation to the original? With Billy Zane,
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I could speak for hours.
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What a great film.
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It was my favorite. I mean, I came alive. There's My Life before the Mummy and then there's My Life after the Mummy.
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Right. We need to put a pin in that. I need to know more about this.
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Brendan Fraser is so incredible in it. I just feel like it was like he was the perfect choice for this. Charismatic, bumbling at times, but very suave. It was just a great little, like. I assume this is what people felt when it was Indiana Jones where you're like, ah, this is the guy that we absolutely need to be seeing take us through this action movie.
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Yeah, Brendan Fraser. I forgot it was. Billy's name was in it, wasn't it? Or am I going mad?
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He was not in the Mummy. But you're confusing him with the guy that played Imhotep because he looks so similar to this guy, Arnold Vosloo.
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You're kidding me. I thought that was the film where I found out that Billy Zane was actually bald.
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No, but they look almost identical. They're both bald with kind of like a natural eyeliner.
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Ah, interesting. Okay. Yeah, must be.
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Well, I feel bad for Arnold Vosloo. He's not getting. I kind of thought it was Billy Zane, too. Poor Arnold. Billy's getting all the credit for this movie.
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Billy. In a way, yeah.
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That's true.
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Billy presumably didn't get any. Any of the residuals or anything from that? That was all.
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Yeah, the residuals are more important than the credit.
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And we're absolutely sure Billy Zane had no involvement with any of the mummies?
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That's what I'm saying.
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Oh, yeah, sorry. I just had a look in the pillow for encyclopedia there. It's a widely cited example of the Mandela effect or a false memory due to the actor's similar appearance at the time.
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Well, in Call Me Crazy, I think this came out the same year as Titanic. So Billy was having his own I
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was about to say I loved Arnold Vosloo in
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Titanic was two years earlier. So Billy Zane was in a post Titanic glow. He was doing just fine.
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Oh yeah, he was so good in Titanic.
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He was incredible.
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A lot of time for Billy Zane.
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Well on that note, I do want to say goodnight and I do want to say goodnight to Arnold Vosloo. Arnold, I don't know where you are. Perhaps you're still doing Billy Zane esque roles. You were incredible as Imhotep and you deserve to have your name out there. No Mandela effect here. We all know in the Vosloo tribe that you did your. You did it.
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And I just want to give a quick goodnight to Wu Yiza, the new world champion of Snuka and your dear
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close friend based on that photo.
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My very close friend, he looks quite. If you're not, I mean you won't have seen the picture but he looks quite shell shocked in it. He wasn't over the moon about the selfie, but no, you know, you have a couple of beers and you see Woo ya in the street. What are you gonna do?
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And good night to you Matt. I will talk to you next time.
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Night.
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Sam. Sa. Sam sa.
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Date: May 12, 2026
Host: Matt Bragg
Co-host: KP Parker
Produced by: Hatch Podcasts
Tonight’s cozy conversation between Matt and KP journeys through British snooker culture, the challenge of the "75 Hard" fitness program, and a rant about the sorry state of modern movie trailers. Listeners are treated to witty banter, niche sports stories, musings on the value of fiction, and a very dedicated correction about who was actually in The Mummy. Ideal for sleepyheads and pop-culture fans alike.
Matt gives a heartfelt shout-out to snooker champion Wu Yiza; KP salutes Arnold Vosloo; both share goodnight wishes with a knowing wink to misremembered movie facts and shared, quirky obsessions.
Recommended for:
Fans of British humor, niche sports, sleep podcasts, bookworms juggling reading guilt, and anyone who’s ever mistaken an actor in a trailer.