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Hey there. I'm Sophia.
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And I'm Jack Kees. Welcome to the Nightly from Hatch, a slumber party. For all you pop culture lovers out there in the streets or in the sheets or you are, wherever you are, this is for you. What's up, Sophia?
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Nothing much. Yesterday I had an ugly attack.
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Do you forget those where you just think you're ugly?
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Most. How many days in a week is it?
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Yesterday I was. Came down with an ugly attack. I was like, yeah, I had a pimple, Literally. I was like, I have a horn.
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Right in the middle. Right in the middle of the photo.
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Yeah, it was above my eyebrow. It's actually still there. And it doesn't even look like a pimple. It just looks like a bump. But I was like, there's just a huge bump on my face. And then it really got me down and I was kind of freaking out. And I'm like, I just felt like I needed to do something drastic to my appearance, but I have short hair that I'm growing out.
A
Yeah, I see that.
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There's nothing drastic I can do to my appearance.
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Yeah.
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So I was like, I need to buy a wig or something.
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I love to grow out. When you came into the fort, it's.
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Awful to grow out your hair.
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It is.
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It sucks.
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I've not cut my hair completely off since 2015, which is crazy to me. Yeah, I had braids in high school and cut them off in high school, and I had short hair mostly. You know, just fades and stuff like that. And then around 2015, decided to, like, grow it out. And, like, I've had different iterations of it, but I've had longer hair in some shape, form, or fashion for over 10 years now, which is really crazy. And, like, I have dreams about cutting my hair, and that's how I know I'm not ready yet to cut it. Like, because when I have the dream and I cut it, I always regret it.
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It's stressful.
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It's stressful dream. It's a stressful dream. And I wake up, I was like, I'm not ready yet. I'm not ready to cut my hair yet. When I have that dream and I look in the mirror and be like, it's about damn time.
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That's when you'll know.
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That's when I'll cut it off. Yeah.
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Yeah, it's hard. I'm just in a place where I, I was bald and now I no longer wanna be bald. And I have to kind of reckon with that for like, honestly, like four months probably. I have to be like battling it out.
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Your hair is growing fast, though. I know.
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It's growing fast.
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I feel like the last time I saw you, you still had like a relatively like close shave.
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Yeah.
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And like you got, you got hair, hair now. You got.
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I know. Yeah, I know. But it's like now. Oh my God. Whatever. I like, can't. It's just one of those things where I'm like, I just wanna keep growing it. But then I. Maybe I should go get it evened out because sometimes I look in the mirror and I'm like, it looks crazy, but it's okay.
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The grow out phase is always tough. It's always tough. Yeah.
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It's honestly a truly humbling experience is what I'll say. It really humbles you.
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Well, listen, we're beautiful no matter what. We're beautiful no matter what. In the pillow for. And I love it. I love it. I've been seeing this trend amongst the youth and it's that Gen Z, I guess they have made it okay. Are you considered Gen Z? You're considering Gen Z, right?
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Okay.
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So you and your youthful friends, me included, you, you included, have decided like pimple patches.
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Oh, yeah.
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Like in public are like, yeah, cool or fine to wear because they like come in like stars. If you don't know what a pimple patch is, is if you have a pimple or anything like that, you put a patch over it and it has medicine that go. But now they come in different colors, designs, shapes, and so you wear them out now. And I don't feel away about it. I just am like, oh, interesting.
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Yeah, yeah. There's like the cute ones that are like star shaped or whatever.
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Yeah.
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I don't have any of those ones because those ones, which I still respect, I feel like they're more like aesthetically to cover up, which I think is. Serves its purpose totally. But I have the ones that I would say are like medicinal, but I do think they're really cute. And mostly whenever I see that, I'm like, oh my God, I wish that that existed in high school because that is like the time when you really are like, I wish I could just like put stars all over my face and like go to school.
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I mean, here's the thing, like, I'm a millennial. I guess I'm an old millennial. When you Come down to it, but I am a millennial. And, you know, sometimes when millennials talk about the fashion of those at least younger than us, I'm like, first of all, all they're doing is just bringing back stuff that we did, like, back in the day. And we also had some crazy styles as well. But, like, when I was in high school, it maybe wasn't for, like, covering up imperfections or perceived imperfections on the face, but we was wearing full band aids. Nellie's sty started that period. And people would start wearing just like, full band aids, and that would be okay, like on the face, which is crazy.
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It's interesting.
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It's crazy.
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That one to me is like. I'm like, it's to do that when it's not something that other people are doing. I think it's a little bit off putting, but respect. I think the little stars are cute. Everyone I talk to who use them are like, yeah, they don't do anything other than cover it up. But I mean, that covering it up is a huge. That's half the battle.
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Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. It's half the battle. I am of the mindset that, like. And I feel this way about many things. Like, we have gendered certain things in our society, makeup being one of them. And, you know, I'm an actor and I grew up in theater, so I've been putting makeup on my face, like, for performances at the very least since I was a teenager. And, like, I know how to do makeup. I know how to do my makeup at least, and things like that. And I don't understand why, like, that's a gendered thing. I'm just like, it should either be like, we all wear makeup or we all don't wear makeup, or you wear what you want. And I'm like, yeah, man. Sometimes, like. Cause that's what some people use to cover up anything on their face, too, is you'll use makeup sometimes. And like, whenever I have anything on the face and I'm on set and they throw makeup on, I'm like, period. It's gone. It's gone.
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Literally, like, it's great.
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And, like, I should just do this outside.
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Like, no, 100%. I actually have been thinking about buying makeup again. Literally, because of what you're saying where I'm like, I'll just get some concealer or something.
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Something.
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I know stuff that I'm like, is kind of like, no makeup makeup. I got my brother on some of it and he still uses it. I have like. I'm like, I can get you a foundation that no one will see.
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Exactly.
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I can make you glow.
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You can make you glow. Let me talk to the men out there or the people that identify as men, especially CIS men. Let me tell you, man, listen, sometimes your face is raggedy. I'm not saying that in a negative way. I'm just saying that in, like. It's okay.
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It really is.
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It's okay to like, you know, let me cover this up a little bit. Let me cover that up a little bit.
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Just a little something.
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Nobody will know. It's between you and the mirror.
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And that's it. That's it. No, really, really.
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It's the only people that like what Michael Jackson say. I'm looking at the man in the mirror. Guess what? That man in the mirror had. He had makeup on.
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He had makeup on.
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He had makeup on.
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He had a lot of makeup on.
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Yeah, Mike had a lot of makeup on.
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He had a lot. Yeah.
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And that's okay. That's a great song.
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It's okay.
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It's a great song.
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Literally. Okay, Jikkis, Mike was playing in the makeup. How about you and I play a little game? How's that? Let's do it.
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Let's do it. Let's play it.
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Okay, so let's play our version of Kiss, Marry, Kill, also known in the pillow for as Spoon, Snore, Shove on the floor.
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Yes.
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And I'm like. And that's not the first time I've said that. That rolled off the tongue. Completely natural.
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I love that. It's our G rated version of the PG rated version that we had originally. And I think it's a beautiful thing. It's beautiful.
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Yes. Okay, so we're gonna do Spoon, snore, or shove on the ground. And I'm like parsing out which one of the. So the spoon is good.
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Yeah.
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Snore is like, you ignore them or is snore that you're sleeping with?
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Like, yeah. Snore is like, this is my everyday. Yeah, got it. Yeah, yeah, got it, T. Yeah.
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And then shove on the floor. We. That is obviously bad. And we understand that.
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Okay.
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Okay, so we have Shrek, Paddington Bear and the Grinch.
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This is tougher because, like, I've never seen Paddington Bear and I know that's bad. Especially I hear Paddington 2. Like, I know people.
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Yeah. People love it.
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Like, I know thugs that be like, man, I watch Paddington 2 and I cry.
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Yeah.
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You know, so like, I really want to watch it. And every time I'm like, I'll watch it. I'm not in the. Because everybody has been like, it's emotional. And I'm like, I gotta be in the mood for an emotional movie.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So I will watch it at some point. Like, this is a little tough because I haven't seen Patty Tuber, but I know of it. He's cute. Everything like that I know about him. So I could still do this. The Grinch used to be one of the things that I would watch every holiday season.
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It's a good one. Yeah.
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And I'm talking about the cartoon. I'm not even talking about the movie.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm talking about the OG Cartoon short.
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Yeah.
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I will watch that every Christmas season. And then. I love Jim Carrey. I'm not the biggest fan of the Grinch movie, surprisingly, but, like, I love him.
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He is amazing.
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He's amazing in it. And so that's interesting. Shrek was one of the first movies that. When I first saw, like, the trailers for it. And this might be a little before your time, like, when the first trailers came out for the first movie. But, like, I was like, this looks stupid. I don't think I'm gonna like this. Cause at this point, like, throughout the 90s, my generation had had the Masterpiece series from Disney. So we had had the Lion Kings, we had the Beauty and the Beast, the Aladdins. And now we had started to have, like, the Toy Stories and, like, the Pixar movies. And so this, like, Crass, ugly, weird DreamWorks Animation movie was like, what is this? And it was the first movie that I went, not really excited to see it and walked out, and I was like, that was fantastic. Yeah, like, that was great.
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It was definitely, like, a tonal shift, like, from what everyone was used to.
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Yeah. And so I really love Shrek, but so I think, like, I'm okay to snore with Shrek. Shrek can be with me no matter what. I think I gotta. I think I gotta spoon the Grinch.
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Okay, okay, okay.
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And, like, the Grinch is mean, but the Grinch heart grows. Like, also, the Grinch is real, man. Let me tell you something. Like, you live in a town with all these Whoville Whovillians down there, and they mean. And they up here singing all the time. Like, if I can. If I'm on top of a mountain and I can hear you singing from down below, I would be mad, too.
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No, I'd be pissed.
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Shut up.
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I need to sleep.
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Like, I gots to sleep.
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Stop sleeping. Y' all are making a ruckus.
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Like, yeah, y' all Too loud. He's misunderstood. And so I relate to that. So I want to smooch that a little bit.
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Yes.
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Patt and the Bear, I'm sure, is a beautiful movie. And I know, like, he's a very sweet guy and everything like that, but anything that's gonna make me cry, like, I ain't trying to, like, get on the floor. Like, get on the floor. You go, like, elicit emotions from somebody else.
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Like, I don't need that.
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I don't need it. I don't need it. So that's my. That's my ranking.
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Okay. That's a good one. Okay. I think I'm also going to snore with Shrek. I feel like Shrek is like, silly. Shrek's a good time. I'm like, we can have a happy, fulfilling relationship with one another. We'll make each other laugh. We'll have a good time. Maybe sometimes Donkey will come over. Whatever.
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Listen, if you got Donkey, I'm. I'm with it.
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We're literally. Donkey's there, I'm there.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And then I think I'm going to. And I also haven't seen Paddington, however, literally, because of, like. Cause I think you made some really good points about the Grinch being a bit misunderstood. He's. In a way, he's been ostracized by a town.
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Yeah.
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But truly, I'm going off of a physical level where I'm like, well, I want to spoon Paddington. Cause it literally would be like hugging a teddy bear. So I'm like, true. I want to do that. That sounds sweet.
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That's fair. You're not lying.
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And the Grinch is furry, but he doesn't. He's not very, like, well kept. Like, I feel like it wouldn't be as, like, cozy as spooning.
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Yeah, he got some. He lumpy. He a little lumpy.
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Yeah, he has some lumps and some bumps to him.
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I feel like he matted, too. It's not even fur like, he matted.
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That's what I was thinking. I'm like, the hair is, like, gonna be kind of, like, hard at part. Like, it's like, we need to give him a shower first. Give him a little shower, a blowout, and then we'll see. So I think I'm gonna spoon Paddington, and then, unfortunately, I'm gonna shove the Grinch on the floor. Horrible. Because he's already taken so much that to turn him away is painful. But I think that's my truth.
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That's fair.
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Pilington is just so cute. I'm like, of course I'll give you a hug.
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He's very cute. I'm not mad at that.
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No.
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At all. That's a very fair assessment. We're both snoring with Shrek, though, so.
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Yes.
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That feels right. That feels right.
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That's the correct. There is one correct answer.
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Yeah, absolutely. All right, here's mine for you.
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Okay.
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Spoon, snore, shove on the floor the couch from Friends, the Iron Throne from Game of Thrones.
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Okay.
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Or the door from the Titanic.
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Okay.
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This is crazy. I love this.
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What. Can you explain to me what the door from the Titanic is like?
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You've seen the Titanic?
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I have.
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It's the door that Kate Winslet is on when Jack.
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Oh, that door. Okay. Okay. Got it, got it. I was thinking of a door attached.
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To one of the many doors that same.
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Yeah. I was like, what? Okay.
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No, it's. It's the. It's the famous. They both could have fit on the door. Door.
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They could have. We all know they both could have fit on that damn door.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Okay. Wow. This is interesting. So my truth is that I've never seen Game of Thrones.
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Interesting.
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I know. I know. That's fair.
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That's also a show that when it started, you were probably too young to watch.
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Yes. I mean, I know people who watched it. Like, I was, like, in high school when it was coming out. So, like, I could have, but it was so not my speed. And then I remember I was living in LA when the finale happened, and the way that it was, like, I was being invited to, like, Game of Thrones finale watch parties, and I was like, I do not know a lick of what is going on in the show. And to be honest, it's just not really a show that I would watch.
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That's fair.
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It's just not. It's not quite a show I would watch. Except the other day I was like, I'm sure this mean. This literally means something was wrong. I was like, should I watch Game of Thrones? It's like, that is so not my vibe. But okay. I think I would snore the couch from Friends simply because Friends was a huge part of my life young. When I was younger, growing up, if you put on an episode of Friends, I could probably quote most of the episode. To this day, I've seen it that many times, so I feel like I need to snore with the couch. And I just think it's, like. It's sweet. It's a couch where all your buddies are there all Your friends are there. So I'm like, okay. Like the vibe of that couch.
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Yeah.
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I think I'm gonna shove. Hmm. Now this is interesting. I'm like, I kind of want to shove the door from the Titanic on the floor simply because it has such negative connotations. I don't really want to have any type of relationship with the door from the Titanic.
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Yeah.
B
And so I think I'm gonna shove the door from the Titanic on the floor, which I guess means that I'm gonna spoon the Iron Throne from Game of Thrones. Which is funny because it is made of knives.
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I think so.
B
Yeah.
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It's made of, like, swords and knives.
B
It wouldn't be, like, the most comfortable spoon, but I think that's just kind of like what we're left with from my options. Yeah, that is my answer. Mostly I'm snoring with the couch from Friends, and that's, like, the easiest thing to fall asleep on also. Out of all of these.
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Yeah. I really appreciate that you're factoring in comfort into your decisions for these. I love that this is tough for me because all three of these are very weird. They are strange, but in a fun way. It's a fun weird. It's a fun weird, but it doesn't.
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Feel like there's a clear cut answer.
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Yeah, it's not a clear cut answer. I don't watch Friends. I've maybe seen less than 10 episodes in totality of the entire show.
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Respect.
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And, like, the couch from Friends is no more. Like, there are more iconic couches to me.
B
Totally. Totally.
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The couch from Roseanne is more iconic to me. Or the couch from Martin that I watched or, you know, the chair from all in the Family or like, there are more sit pieces that are iconic to me.
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Yes.
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Than the couch from Friends. Like, I don't even know what color that couch is. Is it green? Is it green or something?
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I don't know. And I'm gonna be honest. There are actually multiple couches and friends.
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Okay. Yeah.
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So there's. Because.
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So it's just the idea of the place where everybody hangs out.
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Yes. Because there's a couch in the coffee shop that they always hang out at, and they all sit on that. And then there's also a couch in the apartment that they also always hang out and sit on. So I'm honestly not really sure, but I'm getting word from our gorgeous producers who are saying that they are talking about the one in the coffee shop, and it is iconic orange couch.
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The iconic central perks or central Perk Central. Perk couch.
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Yes.
A
Yeah.
B
Okay.
A
The Iron Throne. This is tough. The Iron Throne is also like, whatever.
B
Yeah. Did you watch all of Game of Thrones?
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I did. I did watch all of Game of Thrones, and I never cared about who was on the throne.
B
Okay.
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Like, I never really cared about it in that way. Right. And then the door from Titanic is funny to me. It's just funny, you know, the whole. You know. Yeah, maybe he could have fit on that door.
B
Yeah, it is funny.
A
All right. I think I will shove the door on the floor. Because what that door represents is crazy.
B
That's what I'm saying. That one is like, well, I don't want to spoon or snore with the death door.
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It's wild. And also because I'm just like, look, I love love. I love love. Love is beautiful. Love is great. Love is kind. Everything that you've heard at a wedding, I agree with.
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It's true.
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There ain't nobody on the planet that I could fall in love with in less than a week's time where I'm gonna keep my ass in the ocean while they sitting up. Like, we both get. And not even forget Kate letting him on the door. Or what was her name in the mov. When I get Rose, letting him on the door, I'm like, jack, bruh, get your butt up on the door. Like, move over, scoot over.
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Just get on there. Just get on there.
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I ain't staying in the ocean for you. I just met you. Now, if you my partner, I've known you for a while. You my family.
B
Like.
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Yeah, but we just met. Either we both going down.
B
Exactly.
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Or we both being sad.
B
It's sink or swim. And we're gonna do it together.
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We doing it together. I wanna live, too. All right, so we shoving that door on the floor.
B
Yeah.
A
I will snore that couch. I will snore that couch. And I guess I'll spoon the Iron Throne. You know, listen.
B
Why not?
A
And allow me to get freaky, but what's her name? Emilia Clarke and Dothraki. The queen, she eventually sat on that throne.
B
So we're just getting closer.
A
If she is the one that's on that throne, I can spoon that. I can spoon that throne. If it comes with her, I can spoon that throne. Now, if it come with some of them other ugly dudes that sat on the throne, then, you know, I'll blow it a kiss.
B
Keep it moving.
A
I'll blow it a kiss, but I can spoon the throne with her on it. So.
B
Okay. Got it.
A
That's my answer.
B
It's a good answer.
A
Yeah.
B
Okay. I'm glad we're in agreement, basically. Yeah, we are, for slightly different reasons. But, yes, I think we cracked the code.
A
Yeah, we cracked it. We cracked it.
B
We cracked it. And you know what? I'm getting pretty sleepy. I think it's time for me to turn in. I'm not going to snore on a chair made of knives or a door or even a couch. I'm gonna snore on a bed, and I'm gonna have an amazing night of sleep.
A
You know what? I'm gonna also snore on a bed. And I'm gonna think about all the lovely conversations me and Shrek could have as we snore together. So I'll talk to you next time. Good night, Sophia.
B
Good night, Jacques. Sam.
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Date: January 5, 2026
Hosts: Sophia (B) and Jack Kees (A)
Podcast: The Nightly (Hatch Podcasts)
"Snoring with Shrek" is a cozy, lighthearted nighttime chat from The Nightly, a podcast built for comfort and unwinding. This episode blends gentle musings on body image, evolving pop culture norms, and a playful game of “Spoon, Snore, Shove on the Floor,” where the hosts creatively rework the classic "Kiss, Marry, Kill" using beloved (and bizarre) iconic characters and objects from movies and TV shows. The relaxed, friendly banter is soothing and relatable, making it perfect for bedtime listening.
(A cozy take on Kiss/Marry/Kill with quirky pop culture picks)
(09:01–14:52)
(15:07–22:04)
Both Sophia and Jack wrap up feeling validated, choosing comfort and acceptance (and Shrek!) above all, encouraging listeners to rest easy and embrace their quirks—whether that means pimple patches, unconventional choices, or a healthy dose of nostalgia with a pop culture twist.
Perfect for:
Bedtime, unwind time, or whenever you need a little warmth and laughter—no doomscrolling required.