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Hello. You're about to drift into an episode of the Nightly, a podcast designed to help you unwind and relax. For the full phone free immersive light experience, visit Hatch Co. Enjoy. All right, I'm Matt.
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And I'm kp. Welcome to the Nightly from Hatch, where your late night thoughts go to rest.
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What is on that cup, kp?
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Thank you for asking. So this is a glass mug. It's green, which already I was struck by a glass mug. I think it's quite nice. But then on it is the word Gilbert and it has a little paw. Yeah.
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Your name isn't Gilbert, is it?
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Well, that's one of the things I keep really close to my chest is that my name is not Gilbert. Cause it's just embarrassing to admit, but it is. Kp. I just saw this. I mean, I'm just struck by the lack of branding, really. It's just somebody that seemingly had some animal with a paw named Gilbert and said, I must get that engraved on a beautiful green glass mug. And so I bought this from the thrift store.
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There we go.
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Of course, I mean, we all had to know that that was coming.
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How recent a purchase was that?
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This was probably last year. This has been with me for a bit, maybe more. I think this might be like two years.
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Oh, wow. Okay.
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Gilbert has survived. I think there's something nice. I assume this is a pet that has now passed on, I'd say. Or they just got really mad with him one day and donated the cup they made for him. They just really started disliking his attitude and said, that's it. I don't want the mug of you.
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Yeah, you're dead to me, Gilbert.
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Yes.
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It's quite a weird thing to get a mug, which is presumably for humans, engraved with the dog's name. You'd expect like a water dish, something like that.
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Something for the dog.
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Yeah.
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And I'm gonna guess I'm looking at the paw. It looks like a dog's paw to me.
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Yeah, I think it could be. Is there such a dinosaur about that? Is it? What's the dinosaur with the kind of
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claw there could be. I mean, that'd be amazing. If it's like a Komodo dragon named Gilbert, wouldn't that just be the coolest person in the world that has that?
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Yeah. And he got a coffee mug for his reptile.
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The reptile people are interesting folk, so they would do that. They are really interesting guys and gals.
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It's a strange world that. There's a shop where I live called Weird creatures.
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That's incredible.
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Yeah, I used to do a bit about it where I said I wasn't really sure whether that was the stock or the customer or the employees too. I'm sure it was like a reasonable sized shop on the high street, always empty, nobody ever went in it. But I find that fascinating that with so many shops that haven't survived kind of the online shopping boom, I don't
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think you should get your turtles online. But maybe. I'm sure that you can.
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I bet you can.
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So this is. I had the same thought. This was like, you know, five, six months ago. We were on the highway. I was like, you know what, I need a break from driving. We were taking a long drive and then I saw a cool record store, a vintage store off the, off the side of the highway. I pull over. It's desolate in this whole plaza because again, I feel like a lot of malls and strip malls are. Nobody's going to them anymore. And inside is a store. And I said, hold on, what is that in the window? That's a hundred year old tortoise walking around.
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Walking around. It's in a shop.
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It's in a shop. It was a reptile store, I think, or it was like an aquarium store. Whatever. It was a weird creatures store. And there's a hundred year old large tortoise walking around. And I was like, is that an animatronic? Because I was like, just. It was a real fever dream to see a tortoise as a shopkeeper. He had a little apron on.
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Did he have a cup with his name on by any chance?
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And it was Gilbert and I stole it from him. I took it right out of his little paws.
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Which is it? Is it tortoise or which is the water one?
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Well, so there's sea turtles and those have the fins. Those cannot really walk on land then. Tortoises are land only. Yes.
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Right.
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But then turtles are like a little mix of both sometimes. Like there's a red eared slider and that's land and water. Because I used to have a red eared slider and he was a nice guy.
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That's a real big bit of KP law you've just dropped there very nonchalantly.
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Well, he was an exes that we, you know, lived jointly with. So I was a stepmom, I suppose, at the time.
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Oh, I see.
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Yeah. But I took to the lad.
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How old is he? The turtle? Not the X.
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The Turtle was maybe 7.
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Do they live the same as. Is it tortoises that live till like 150.
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Tortoises are really old. I think turtle like a red eared. I don't think lives much past like 20.
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Was that a wrench for you leaving the. What was the name of the turtle?
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Turb.
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Turb.
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Mm. For turbulence. Cause when my ex got him, the car was moving a lot on the way back, so there was turbulence.
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Okay.
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Mm.
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This is fairly unrelated, but I was on a cats protection website the other day.
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Cats protection.
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I love looking at cats. Yell at rescue cats.
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Oh, okay. I thought that was like, if cats have done. Have witnessed a crime, they have to go into cats protection.
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Yeah, yeah. That's ironically, if a cat's a rat, then they.
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Yeah, then a cat's a rat. They got a scat and they go into cats.
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Great tagline.
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Yeah, there's some. Yeah.
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But there was anyways a cat on there with no eyes called Bumpy. I thought that was really sweet. And Bumpy's got a new home now. I've been following his journey.
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The names on the pet adoption sites. I know they're doing it specifically, of course, to like get your attention, but I love. It really works. They are such funny little names to me. I mean, I'm on. I'm on a dog protection site right now and they really want to get your name. Triscuit, Little Crack it, Cracker Name Nike. This is just for brand loyalists. They're trying to get people that are just. Maybe you like that.
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That's quite shameless, isn't it?
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We've got Walmart. The dog. No, I like too when there's like a litter and they all name them, like matching names from that. Have you seen where it's like Ross and Rachel and Phoebe and Monica?
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Yeah. So like Kim, Chloe.
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Yes.
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That's the extent of the Kardashian knowledge. I have.
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You got some key players.
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What are the other ones? Kim, Khloe, Kendall.
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Kylie.
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Kendall, Chris, Kourtney, Courtney, Caitlyn.
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Caitlyn. And then there's Brody. Ah, yes.
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And that is the full litter.
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Oh, Rob, we're forgetting the boys.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yes.
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Rob. Is he. Is he blood related?
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Rob is blood related, but he's more private than the rest. So he hasn't been on the seasons, apparently.
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Well, what happened there with the name? Like, why is he the only one that's not a K?
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The dad was named Rob, so he passed that. That's Rob Jr. And then Chris is the mom, so maybe she passed all the K technology down to the girls.
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So Caitlyn's not The dad or the. No.
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Robert Kardashian, who was the lawyer for the O.J. case. That's how the Kardashians came to fame. He is Kim and Kourtney and Khloe and Rob's father.
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Right.
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Mm. And then Chris got remarried, and then along came Kendall and Kylie.
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Got. Yeah, okay, that makes more sense. There's been a real gap in my knowledge there for a very long time.
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Yeah. You haven't. Have you tuned in on any of the episodes, do you think?
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I can honestly say I think I've maybe seen, in total, in my entire life, maybe three and a half minutes of Kardashian content.
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I also never got in when it was first coming out. You know, it's too late now to tap in. I think I know enough. But my friend really keeps up to date. Like, she is like, yeah. Every week I've watched, you know, for the last, whatever, 10 years, and I watched one with her, and I was like, it is really, really funny how mundane it is. And this is not me knocking them. I am like, I think if you watch this or if you are them, I think it's lovely what you've done. But I think it's like, I watched one episode, and it was like the hour was them being like, should we rent an rv? Sorry, Maybe we rent an rv. Our an hour episode was like, okay, so we've rented an rv and now we're in the rv. I don't want to be in the rv. Episode over. It was like, I was like, these are actually the conversations with my family I want to get out of is logistics, planning. I do not want to watch Another Planet family do this.
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Wasn't that the whole point of television or entertainment in the first place was to get you out of your own life?
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Yes. The only thing I would hate more than trying to figure out how to rent an RV with my mom is figuring out how to rent it with Kris Kardashian.
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Yeah,
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I'm not interested.
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Yeah. I'm assuming it's. It's incredibly scripted and put together, isn't it? It's not real real.
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I mean, I don't think they need to worry about being entertaining for the camera because they've been doing this their entire lives, so I do think they're incredibly, you know, good at turning it on and just having, you know, a day. But I do think that they're such big celebrities now that they are pretty specific about topics they don't want to talk about or get into. It seems like, at least in this current iteration sure is. It seemed as if it's like they don't want to talk about ex husbands. They don't want to talk like, this is what I. And truly, this is me talking out my butt, because I've seen one episode in the last 12 years, so I'm sure the last people that should be talking about this are us. But I'm like. I think from what I saw, it was like, it seems very safe of, yeah, we're not talking about our relationships if that other person doesn't want to be on screen. It's like Kylie was not talking about Timothee Chalamet at all. Right. They've been dating for four years now, practically.
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Of course, as we all know, I'm
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sure you've been following every news article that comes out.
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I, for one, can't get enough of that relationship between those two bloody lovebirds.
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Gosh, they're. They're so cute.
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I tell you, a couple of people who aren't as good at that whole reality TV thing. I don't know if you've watched At Home with the Furies, you know, the Tyson Fury.
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I don't even know who Tyson Fury is.
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What, the boxer.
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Would you believe that I'm not into the boxing community? I don't know anything about him.
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Have you never seen him before?
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Never seen him once.
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You big bum dosser. That is Tyson Fury.
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That was to me.
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That was to you.
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And don't you ever say that again.
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Fascinated man. Lives in a place called Morecambe in England. World heavyweight champion. Just. I mean, real unbelievable boxer sort of in it. Maybe not so much now, but certainly was. And, yeah, just lives his life kind of like a lottery winner, it seems.
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Now he has a reality show.
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Yeah.
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Keeping up with the Furies, or what did you call it?
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I think it's called At Home with the Furies. So I'd highly recommend because it's got scripted elements to it, but they haven't quite got their head around how to make it seem natural yet. So.
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Sure.
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The dad, who is a real. He's a real squat tough guy.
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This is Tyson's father.
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Tyson's father. Yeah, it's John. And they'll be round a table and out of nowhere, John will go, tyson, how's your mental health?
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As if he always asks that.
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Yeah, you know, that's what we always talk about around the table.
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Dads are known for asking their sons how their mental health is. This has happened all the time.
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It's fascinating. I'm surprised you didn't know of Tommy Fury. He was the son. He's kind of in the love island realms now. Cause he went out with a girl called Molly May.
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Now I know this, okay. I know Tommy more than Tyson. Cause Tommy was not quite nice to Molly Mae recently or something. I think that he was caught cheating or something.
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Yeah. And do you know what was to blame for that, Capey?
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What was that?
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His mental health.
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Well, see, we should have asked him one episode earlier.
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He does go into that. He says things sort of went wrong and it was because of his mental health. So.
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Okay.
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He did cheat on Molly May several times, I think.
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Yeah.
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It's a cruel disease.
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Uh huh. And we all feel bad for him. Yes.
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Well, I think actually they've patched it back together, I think.
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Oh well, if she's happy, I'm happy.
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Did you come across Tommy or Molly first?
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Both at the same time? Just from the scandal? You know, it's. I don't watch a lot of these shows but it's like the scandal blows up and then you're like, okay, well let me check in and see what's going on because we have recently, I don't watch Summer House, but this is one that people really, really love. And apparently a beloved person on that show, Ciara dated and really liked this guy Wesley. They dated for about a year, but it was a little, you know, she just really had a huge like for him a lot. And so they tried. It didn't seem to really work for him. And then her good friend, one of her best friends now has revealed that they are dating huge scandal because everyone's like, you don't do that if you're someone's friend, right?
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Yeah. And that sort of really resonated with you, the dude.
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I guess it's just you don't want to be left out of a scandal once it's gone for a bit. So I go, okay, let me see what's going on. I go, okay, let me see whose side I'm on. It was easy. It's Sierra's. Everyone's on Sierra's side. And then there's a name usually for the scandal that they create.
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Oh, was that, was there a good one for this? I do like a. I like a good gate.
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I know. Well, Scandival, I'm sure you that made it over to you, right?
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What's that?
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Oh my goodness. Well now this is like truly, I think the biggest scandal to ever come out of reality television over here was by the way, the last one was called Westgate because his Name is Wes.
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There we go.
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Yeah. So it's Westgate. That's fine.
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Makes sense.
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So Skandoval was a man named Tom Sandoval on the show Vanderpump Rules. This show is actually really incredible on sort of reality TV royalty. And I didn't watch this, but after Scandival came out, I sort of had to tune in. But this is a similar thing. He was dating for seven years, this woman Ariana. Turns out the last, like, year of it, him and her best friend were messing around. This was. Her name was Raquel, but she changed her name to Rachel.
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Yeah, it really throw people off the scent.
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I don't know. That was an interesting choice that I couldn't keep up with. And people weren't even talking, talking about that part, but that part, I was like, hello. What? We're not talking about that. I mean, she changed her name from Raquel to Rachel.
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Honestly, make an effort.
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I guess Rachel's her real name. So she went back to it because she was trying to be more real. Now she's like, now that the lies are over, I'd like to go back to my real name.
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By the sounds of it. Don't be real. Be somebody else. Be Gilbert.
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Be Gilbert. So that one was a fascinating one. But in general, I only tune in to Tommy Fury. I tune in when there's some sort of thing that makes it across my desk.
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Across your desk. Love that image. I think there was actually a before at Home with the Furies. There was like a Molly May reality show. I did watch a tiny bit of that because I was fascinated by it. I just. I don't understand it. And then it was like, oh, Wally, you've got to go and do a photo shoot thing. And she was like, oh, but I'm. Oh, I'm so busy.
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I'm stressed.
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Molly, people have nine to five jobs and bills to pay.
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You've got to go get your photo shoot.
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Oh, there we go. It's called Molly May behind it All.
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Behind it All.
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I don't know what it all is.
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Right. I was curious about that, where it's like, okay, well, but we do have the Fury show at Home of Fury. Reminds me of. We have a lot of silly reality shows from WWE wrestlers that do sometimes good, sometimes not good, but I find them really. See. Now, I think WWE wrestlers really work because there is a level of performance and showmanship and acting that these people do. So I think they're. They're well poised for reality shows. I've seen a bunch of the. The Miz has one that's very successful.
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Nice.
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And his story is always very interesting to me because he came up in reality TV anyway before wwe he was on Real World and he was, you know, kind of a little bit of a plucky villain esque guy.
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He's got a villainous face in the kindest way possible.
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You know, it's so. Because his character is very villainous. He is quite lovely. I think he is one of those people that. It's like I am living my dream. This is what I always wanted to do. How could I be upset? And I think he. He's. Every time I see him in something, I'm like, ah. You can tell he's just genuinely very grateful and having a good time.
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Wasn't they based. That was like the original reality show pretty much was wrestler, wasn't it? Wasn't Hogan Knows Best like the. That must have been one of the first. That was early. Wasn't it like mtv?
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Mm. That was up there. There's interesting stuff. Yeah.
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We need to. At some point when we've got more time, I want to talk about wrestling quite a lot more if possible.
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I would love to. Yeah, it's possible. I like to tune in. I've had moments of my life where
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it really hits me too. But only. Yeah, weird little periods where it's been a very intense relationship with wrestling.
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It would be fun. We should get back into it.
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Let's do it.
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This could be the next era.
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But for the time being, I think it's about time we turn in kp. So I'd like to just say a special good night to Gilbert.
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Wherever I was gonna.
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Wherever you are.
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Yep.
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Whatever you're doing, Gilbert, I hope you have a wonderful evening.
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I hope that the donation of this mug wasn't because you were being a bad boy. I hope it's because they've honored you in a million different ways and they don't need this mug anymore because you're so present in their everyday journey. And I will say goodnight to. I mean it's just gotta be Gilbert. I mean we mentioned so many people this episode, but it really does just. It has to be Gilbert.
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It all comes back to Gilbert.
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We don't know what animal you are. I thought perhaps dog, but I am really liking the talk track that you might be a Komodo dragon. So I'm picturing you as thus and I'm drinking from your mug. Thank you, Gilbert. Good night.
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