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Hello, good evening. I'm Jacquees.
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And I am kp. Welcome to the Nightly on Hatch plus, where every sound is a sleep sound.
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Are you a snorer? Do you know? Has anybody told you you snore?
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Getting right to the third degree interrogation here. Jackie's. Whoa.
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Tell me if you snore. Kp, Are you a snorer?
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Answer me.
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Answer me now.
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No, I think if I'm sick, I'll do some noises, I'm sure. But on a good regular night, I think I keep it pretty quiet.
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I think. Here's a wild pitch for those of us who grew up in houses with snorers.
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Yeah.
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And if you grew up in the 80s, 90s or before, you probably had somebody in the house who you could hear snoring throughout the whole house. Probably. I think that should be a sleep sound.
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Oh, my gosh.
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Because it probably is, like, soothing or it takes you back because you had to get used to it growing up. And so it's become like, just like, you know, rain sounds or city sounds or it should be your grandpa or your father is snoring in the other room sound.
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I think that's interesting. There's something maybe cozy about that. Somehow. Somehow.
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Somehow. Some way.
Hi, kp. How are you?
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Good. I'm just feeling cozy. I'm feeling comfy. I'm feeling clean sheeted. All of the good stuff.
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Yes. Clean sheeted.
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I think I'm going to buy some new sheets. I really. The idea struck me because my friend has some really cute sheets, and I was like, ooh, I haven't bought some new sheets in a while. So watch this space. Big things are happening.
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Oh, well. Are you a double sheeter? No, you just do the bot. You just do the fitted sheet.
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Just do the fitted.
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I used to be that. And then four years ago, I moved to where I'm at now, and my ex bought a, like a very nice mattress, like a $2,000 mattress. And we were like, it feels like we should put two sheets on this.
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Yeah, this is deserving.
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This is deserving. And then also, we. We also started sleeping with two separate weighted blankets.
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Yes. Yes.
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Because we each needed a different weight. And so we started doing, like, the top sheet. Because if we didn't want the weighted blanket, but we didn't have the other person's blanket, we just sleep under that Top sheet. And I've become a two sheeter now.
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I may, because I just have all of the flat sheets that come in my packets of sheets that I've bought still folded in the original package practically. But I do appreciate because, like, now when I wash my bedding, like, I kind of have to wash my duvet a lot because it's a lot more. That's where. That's where I'm sleeping. So this would be nice just to hold off on the duvet because that's just such a pain in the butt loading the duvet up into the laundry.
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It is.
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All right.
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And then do you have one that, like, you have a duvet cover, so you have to put the actual comforter in the COVID or is it just a full.
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Right now I'm rocking with just a straight duvet, like a white, I guess a comforter, because it can exist on its own.
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Yeah, yeah, those are much better. Absolutely.
I am now in a holiday mood, and I want to do a little. Do you remember game? Because I have something right off the top of my mind that I would love to try to remember.
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Okay.
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Within the holiday thing.
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Great.
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And this is a movie called the Santa Claus three.
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Okay. This is in the Santa Claus trilogy.
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This is the Santa Claus trilogy, which apparently now also includes a TV show that I've never watched.
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Oh, wow.
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That came out recently. But.
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So I'm very unfamiliar with this. I obviously, I think, remember the first one just because of the odd, like, CGI or whatever moment where he's actually turning into the claws.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like when the beard comes back, when the beard shaves.
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That moment. I remember that one, but I don't know that I. I made it all the way to three.
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That's fair. Many people haven't.
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Yeah, tell me about it.
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All right, well, let's. Let's talk about The Santa Clause 3 first. All your usual suspects are back. You got Judge Reinhold. You have. I can't remember the mom's name, but she's back. Charlie, the little kid From Santa Claus 1. He's back in Santa Claus 3. He's a grown man now, basically.
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Mm.
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The elf that played Barnaby. Or I can't remember his name now, but he's back. But you have a new addition to the movie. That was a fun addition. You have Martin Short as Jack Frost. As Jack Frost himself. As Jack Frost himself. So Santa Claus 3 picks up where Santa Claus 2 leaves off, which is Santa Claus is now married. There's a Mrs. Claus. They're living Happily ever after on the North Pole. Tim Allen is deep in his Santa Claus bag at this point, right.
But Jack Frost, Jack Frost is jealous. He's a jealous man. And so the movie kind of starts with a meeting of the minds, if I remember, of like mythical creatures, right? You got Jack Frost, you got the Easter Bunny, you have the Tooth Fairy, you have Santa Claus, you got Mother Nature or Father Time or something like that. And they're all meeting and I don't know what they're meaning about. I think they're just meeting because, you know, they got to talk about the world and the affairs of the world or something like that. But Jack Frost is like, why am I not more popular? I should be more pop. I just got the one song, blah blah, blah, blah blah. And Tim Allen or in the movies called Scott Calvin or Santa Claus, right. He lets it slip that, oh, this Santa Claus world, this Santa Claus life is a little tough, you know, maybe I wonder what it would be like if like I never became Santa Claus or something like that. But he just says it in jest. He just says it in jest, you know?
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Uh huh.
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But he doesn't really mean it. Cause he loves being Santa Claus. But oh, Mrs. Claus, parents are coming to visit.
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Okay.
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The North Pole. That's right. And it's just. And they can't tell the parents that he's like Santa Claus. So they have to fake the North Pole up. That's what happened. Okay, I remember. They have to fake the North Pole up, right? And like to make the North Pole look normal, to make the North Pole seem like it's not a place where Santa Claus really is insane.
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To be like, come on over to the North Pole. It's normal. Don't worry, it's normal here.
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They think he's like just a toy maker or something. I can't really remember. And the in laws are played by Alan Arkin, icon and Ann Margaret, two great icons in the business. But all of this stress and all of this, that's when Tim Allen, that's when Scott Kalman lets it slip, like, oh man. Boy, it would be cool if we didn't have to worry about all this, right?
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Uh huh.
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And Jack Frost hears that and somehow some way I think he goes in the mythical North Pole book. That's probably not true, but it sounds fun. And he finds out that there is another clause in the Santa Claus, you know, the claw. I forgot about claws. Yeah. Because the movie is not called the Santa Claus, it's called the Santa Claus Clause.
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Yeah.
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A Lot of people forget that. A lot of people forget that. So there's another clause in the Santa Claus that states, if you, like, hold the magic snow globe and say, I wish I never became Santa Claus, that you would be warped back through time to the moment before you became Santa Claus, and you can change that decision, and you will not be Santa Claus.
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Oh, okay.
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So Jack Frost, Martin Short, comes up with a plan. He comes up with the plan, and that plan is to get Tim Allen somehow, some way to say those words. And then they would. And then he would, like, latch onto them, and they would both get sucked back into time. And at the moment, Tim Allen becomes Santa Claus instead. Martin Short, Jack Frost, puts on the suit, and he becomes Santa Claus. Cause he wants to be the big dog. He wants to be the big dog.
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Right. Okay, now, what are Jack Frost's powers? Is it not just creating snow?
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I think it's just ice. Like, ice and snow. Like, he's a cold guy.
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He's just a cold guy. So I understand why he would want some more power around here. Okay.
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Yeah, he wants some more power now. Also, at this point, like, the other people in the family are doing something I can't really remember.
So what happens is Jack Frost is talking to Scott Calvin, and he somehow tricks him into saying, I wish I never was Santa Claus. But, like, he doesn't really mean it. He just says, yeah, if that happened, I guess I would wish I was never Santa Claus. But it triggers the clause, and then he's starting to get sucked back into time. Jack Frost latches onto him, and they get transported back to that moment from the 1994 movie where he comes, where he becomes Santa Claus. He gets in the suit. Jack Foster comes Santa Claus. Tim Allen remembers that he used to be Santa Claus, though, and that he's no longer Santa Claus. Everything goes back to, like, his son doesn't like him anymore. He doesn't have a good relationship with the stepmom or, you know, his former wife and, like, their kids, like, they all don't like him. Like, his life just kept on going from that moment where he was, like, a neglectful, you know, kind of scumbag dad in person. But Jack Frost has turned the North Pole into a tourist destination. He doesn't do. He doesn't do Christmas anymore. He has kids fly to him, and the North Pole is basically like Disney World. That's what happens.
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So he's doing it for the wrong. He wants the attention. He's messed up the whole feeling of Santa hood.
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Mm. He's messed up the whole feeling of the Santa Claus or something like that. And they all figure it out somehow.
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I think Tim Allen gets the entire setup just for you to go, and then, I don't know, they fix it.
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They fix it. They fix it.
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Wow.
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Okay, so Santa Claus, like, I think the little girl in the movie, which is his son's little sister. Okay, Judge Reinhold's little sister.
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Okay.
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Judge Reinhold's and his former wife's new kid, essentially.
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Okay, okay, okay.
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Like, somehow she remembers or, like, has it in her that, like, he was Santa Claus or something like that, and he finds a way to get back to the North Pole, at which point, Jack Frost. Because they transport back to current time. So Jack Frost has been waiting 19 years for this. Like, I knew you were coming. I knew you were coming when you finally figured it out you were coming, right?
And, like, they go through a whole hub above, you know, and, like, there's, you know, chaos ensues. But Jack Frost ain't gonna fall for it. He knows what the deal is. He knows what happened.
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He's got the upper hand.
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He got the upper hand. He did it. He'd been preparing for this for 19 years. But he uses the little girl and, like, has Jack Frost, like, hold the snow globe, right?
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Yeah.
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But what he doesn't know is earlier in the movie, or, like, a few minutes before, the little girl had him say, I wish I never became Santa Claus. But he said it like, what do you think? I'm gonna just hold the snow globe and say, I wish I never became Santa Claus? Like, basically saying, like, blah. But what he didn't know was one of the gifts at the tourist attraction off the North Pole was a pin that recorded what you say.
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Oh.
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So when he said this, she was recording him. And so, like, later in the movie, when he's holding the snow globe and him and Tim Allen are fighting, Tim Allen pulls out the pen, snaps it. He says the words. It's a very loose loophole, but it works. It works. And it takes them back to that moment again in 1994. And this time, Tim Allen has the.
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Upper hand, takes it on back.
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I think he punches Jack Frost, he puts on the suit, everything goes back to normal. And then they tell the parents, hey, I'm Santa Claus. I'm Santa Claus. I'm Santa Claus. All the problems we have from trying to keep this secret. You're family. I'm Santa Claus.
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And if you didn't put it together with me being a toy maker in the North Pole already, That's on you.
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That's on you.
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That's on you.
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The signs were there.
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It was quite clear.
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When you came and you saw a polar bear directing traffic. You should have known, you should have known.
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You see a bunch of elves surrounding me. I think you should have known something.
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You should have known. You should have known.
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Wow. So he is true to himself. And they live.
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And they live happily ever after.
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Ever after. I mean, Martin Short, he's quite kind of a perfect casting for this, it seems.
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I can picture he was actually very. The movie itself is kind of like, meh. But he was great.
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I mean, he's funny. And I see a little villain.
This all makes sense. Jack Frost, he looks good as this.
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He does. He looked good. There's one little moment, there's like a part in Jack Frost the Song or something, and Jack Frost goes to one of the ladies before he fights Tim Allen, and he's like, sing that part of the song for me. And she sings it and he's like, ooh, yeah. And it's just like, ooh. Pure villain. And I love it.
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He's very smarm. That's good. Good stuff. Wow. Okay.
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I'm surprised how much of that movie I kind of remembered.
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You took me right on through it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't remember to end too well.
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And then it's finished.
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And then, you know, they did it.
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They figured it out.
Wow. This is. I mean, it opens up a lot of loopholes if you can just record and smash someone's words together.
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Yeah.
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You know, deep fake technology to get anyone to be Santa.
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This was before deepfakes were deep fakes. The North Pole figured it out.
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Wow.
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It all started in the North Pole.
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So what's up with the TV show? Is that current or that they just made that separate. And is it with Tim Allen?
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It is with Tim Allen. I never watched is somewhat current. Like within the past, like two, three years.
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Santa Clauses.
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Yeah. And I think it came out like 2001 or 2000. And it lasted for two seasons or so.
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Okay.
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Yeah. Somewhat recent. I don't know if it's still active. An active show.
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It appears it's not active, but this is just a whole franchise. I really missed. Maybe this year is the year. I'll catch up.
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Maybe I'll watch the TV show. You catch up on the movies. I'll watch the TV show. I'll let you know if it's worth it.
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Yeah, I'm interested in. I like anything with a little cozy holiday nostalgia. So I'll go back and watch.
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Yeah.
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So it's gonna be a nice, cozy, cozy, comfy movie. And speaking of cozy, comfy, I wonder if perhaps I get to drift off to dreamland with my new movie in my head.
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Mm. I think you do.
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I think I do. I think I get to treat myself to that. I'm pretty sleepy, Jackie, so I am gonna turn in.
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KP it's been my pleasure to give you a beautiful holiday. North Pole adventure to dream about.
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Yes.
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As you go to sleep. And I'm gonna do the same. You have a fantastic night. Good night, K.P.
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Good night.
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Podcast: The Nightly
Hosts: Jacquees & KP
Date: December 4, 2025
This cozy bedtime episode of The Nightly invites listeners to settle in as Jacquees and KP reminisce (with surprising detail!) about The Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause. The hosts playfully reconstruct the movie’s plot, discuss its casting—especially Martin Short as Jack Frost—and contemplate the comforting weirdness of holiday traditions, both on screen and in nightly routines. Their warm, conversational tone is perfect for winding down, with digressions on bedding and holiday nostalgia.
“It probably is like, soothing or it takes you back...it should be your grandpa or your father snoring in the other room sound.” (01:22, Jacquees)
“Watch this space. Big things are happening.” (02:12, KP, on potentially buying new sheets)
“I obviously, I think, remember the first one…where he’s actually turning into the Claus.” (04:27, KP)
“He looks good as this. He does. He looked good.” (14:48, KP)
“Pure villain. And I love it.” (15:18, Jacquees)
“This was before deepfakes were deep fakes. The North Pole figured it out.” (15:55, Jacquees)
“I like anything with a little cozy holiday nostalgia.”
On Snoring as a Sleep Sound:
“It’s become like, just like, you know, rain sounds or city sounds...” (01:22, Jacquees)
On the Absurdity of Covering Up Santa’s Identity:
“If you didn’t put it together with me being a toy maker in the North Pole already, that’s on you.” (14:09, KP)
“When you came and you saw a polar bear directing traffic. You should have known.” (14:19, Jacquees)
On Martin Short’s Performance:
“He was actually very...the movie itself is kind of like, meh. But he was great.” (14:38, Jacquees)
On Time Travel Paradoxes:
“It opens up a lot of loopholes if you can just record and smash someone’s words together.” (15:38, KP)
Light, playful, and gently irreverent, Jacquees and KP balance comforting details with candid, humorous commentary. Their relaxed approach makes for perfect wind-down listening, while the deep dive into The Santa Clause 3 captures both nostalgia and the seasonal absurdities of holiday movies.
Final Thoughts:
KP: “I get to drift off to dreamland with my new movie in my head.” (17:01)
Jacquees: “KP, it’s been my pleasure to give you a beautiful holiday North Pole adventure to dream about.” (17:09)