Loading summary
A
Audio for sleep by Hatch. You know how you finish a romantasy and you just need the next thing immediately? Hatch made that thing. It's called Ophelia. An original audio drama inspired by Hamlet where Ophelia finally gets to be the main character. Forbidden magic, a crumbling kingdom, a slow burn love triangle with a prince and his very guarded, very intriguing best friend. The kind of love triangle where you will absolutely pick a side and you will not be quiet about it. Book one of the three part series is now available for free wherever you stream with new chapters dropping every Tuesday. For books two and three, check out Hatch co Ophelia.
B
All right, I'm Matt.
A
And I'm kp. Welcome to the night from Hatch, where your late night thoughts go to rest.
B
Kp, I was scrolling social media yesterday.
A
Brag.
B
No, not yesterday, today.
A
Okay, yeah.
B
What?
A
Oh yeah, go on now. Go on now.
B
Brag. Parker and I saw somebody posted something that was along the lines of I missed the Will Smith slap live, but I feel like this has more than made up for it. And then posted a clip from Survivor that apparently was a big goof.
A
Huge.
B
I watched it, I reckon five or six times and I still couldn't figure out what the issue was.
A
Okay, everyone voted. The fans got to vote for what they were gonna have this season. And we voted to bring back a live finale. Live finale means we are watching with the cast this last episode and making commentary in between and all that. And so this hasn't happened in like 10 seasons, I think, or maybe more. But the host, Jeff Probst, was out of practice from a live finale because as he's watching the final episode, which goes from five people to the final three to the final one, he gave away a big thing that had not yet happened. So he was saying basically in this event, which is fire making, somebody is gonna get out. We knew that there was gonna be fire making, but we didn't know what was gonna happen. And during like a little commercial break before we got back to the episode, he brings on a contestant, Rizgod, who you know and love Riz.
B
My favorite. Yeah.
A
And he's talking to Rizgad and he's like, you know, they're having fun little banter. And Jeff says, well, maybe if you had that energy, you wouldn't have lost fire making. We hadn't seen that happen yet.
B
So was that pre recorded?
A
Yes, that whole episode of like what happens is pre recorded and then we're watching it live with the people.
B
Okay. Yeah.
A
And so RizGod knew he got out, but the audience didn't. So we're all seeing this as it's going on and the audience groans. It's like, ugh. And then Saree, who I love, said, jeff, we haven't seen that yet. And so they're all watching. Yes. The cast is like, doing a reunion and watching the playback of this finale. And then the only thing that's like, live, live that nobody has seen is he crowns the final winner live, live. So that was not pre recorded.
B
Oh, so it's not the end of the world, though.
A
No, it's just he spoiled it.
B
So he spoiled one sort of game or one element of it. I thought it was like, it ruined the entire series.
A
No, but it is like it was r. Like, if you're watching, you thought Riz God might win the whole thing because it's like, we don't know that he gets out. He could win this and he could win the next thing and he could be in the finale. And so it was spoiling it, but it was only like five minutes before we were about to see it anyway. And what I'll say is Jeff had a really cute, funny joke after. So immediately he kind of cuts to commercial. It just goes to commercial really quick. And then he comes back and he had a very cute joke where he was like, you know, this season has been all about twists and turns. So what just happened was not a mistake, but instead. Instead I'm calling it the peek into the future twist. We peeked into the future.
B
Nice.
A
And so it was a cute little meta game where he was like, that was supposed to happen. I gave you guys a peek into the future that Riz God goes home. Let's see how it happens.
B
Right? Okay.
A
The cutest he could make it. Yeah. But, yeah, I saw Riz God getting interviewed and he was like, I thought it was weird that they were bringing me out before. He was like, I was trying to not spoil it. So Rizgot as he's being interviewed is like, yeah, we'll have to see what happens with me. I mean, win or lose, I know I tried my best. And Jeff was like, yeah, you lost.
B
Oh, God.
A
Ruzgod tried to save it.
B
How did you feel about the final? Did that spoil it for you or your overall success? Good season.
A
A successful season. Yes. I, you know, I was a little bitter because I lost a lot of people that I wish would have been in the finale.
B
I was really hoping you were going to say money then. I don't know why. Just the thought of you putting everything on Survivor.
A
I lost a lot of. Well, this is interesting you bring it up because the big fumble right now that everyone's talking about is that the winner was spoiled. People are saying because of online betting apps that starting in January, kind of right after the season filmed, all of a sudden we started seeing a lot of bets being placed for the person that actually won. And so that started letting people know, oh, the crew from Fiji is coming back and trying to get their money by betting because they know who's in the final.
B
And so that is so annoying.
A
Yeah. Everyone started being like, well, if on these betting sites, there's like 80% of people are saying it's this woman that's gonna win. That must be coming from somewhere. It's probably this woman that's gonna win. And it turns out she did win because. Yeah, they think it's the Fiji crew, first Survivor that kind of started just trying to get their money on these betting sites and spoiled it.
B
If I were on the crew and somebody was saying, oh, Dave's got this thing going where he's putting cash, would I get involved? Probably. I probably would, yeah.
A
It's so tough. I know. I mean, I'm sure there's something against it in their contract, but these betting sites are so new that it's like maybe they're finding little loopholes around it, but it is odd. Yeah. From since January of this year, before the season came out, there was like an 80 something percent chance that this woman was going to win. And then she did.
B
So we knew it wasn't Rizgot all along. That's sad.
A
I still had hope. I had hope until the bitter end. Even when Jeff spoiled it, I said, he'll make it happen.
B
If anyone can bounce back from this, it's Riz.
A
I think so. Already. His interviews are like, this is the most iconic thing I've done. The most iconic thing. Jeff spoiled it. That's never happened in 50 seasons. That's because of R I, Z, Z, G O, Double D. Like, he's already going off on it.
B
What's next for Rizgot then? What do you reckon? TV presenting?
A
I do. I mean, I think people would be a fool to not have him host something. He's got a real charisma and speed that I think he would be an amazing host. I'm changing my tune. If you've been listening for a while. By the way, you know, I really didn't like Riz. God, when this season started, and now I think he's the Future of television.
B
That is a real 180, isn't it?
A
If he needs to cast me, I'm trying to suck up to him.
B
Oh, I see. You've just seen where the power is and now you're. Yeah. Okay.
A
So.
B
Well, tell you what. I've been doing kp, instead of watching trash tv, I've been doing something productive.
A
Whoa.
B
I bought some Lego for the first time at the weekend.
A
That is productive.
B
Yeah. Not official Lego, but. Because I didn't know. Did you know lego? I don't know why anyone would know this really. It's not something most people would look into. But Lego don't make any sort of military stuff like you will never find a tank or a plane or. Because that was their whole thing was all about fun and play. It should be colorful and you know, unless it's fantasy.
A
Right. Because they have all those Star Wars, Death Star and all that.
B
That's the only exception is the Star wars stuff. Because it's not real. Real. Yeah. It's fantasy guns.
A
I see. We don't want to use a tank, but we'll use a universe destroying Darth Vader.
B
Yeah, exactly.
A
Ship. Yeah, makes sense.
B
And lightsabers. Horrible way to go. Actually a lightsaber.
A
Yes. You'd hope it cauterized your wound. At least there's that interesting point.
B
I wonder if that happened to. Okay, this is just going off on a bit of a tangent here, but I. Did you ever have a PlayStation 1?
A
I did.
B
Did you play Star wars the Phantom Menace the game?
A
I did not. No.
B
It's so bad. It's great. I've got such fond memories playing it. And I watched somebody on YouTube play it like the whole way through the other day and I'd completely forgotten about that. But that's what happens to. By the way, I literally don't care for Star wars at all. I just love that one film and game. But yeah, Darth Maul gets cut in half, doesn't he, with a lightsaber.
A
I think even cauterizing wouldn't really help on that one. I think you're missing some key functions.
B
I think he also fell down a hole. That's like an infinite hole. So he's kind of falling forever.
A
That also seems bad.
B
I think it's. Even if you kind of. Even if you manage to cauterize the wound, you are. You've still got an infinite amount of time falling. Yeah.
A
Now, I know Phantom Menace is not looked at fondly by Star wars heads, but this is the one that you like.
B
Yeah, I Think. Cause it's the one that. When I. What year did it come out?
A
I was gonna say this, too. This is the one I like. Because the age I was when I
B
saw it, I think that's. It's always the one that you grew up with. It's the same with James Bond's. I think your favorite Bond tends to be the one. Yeah. So 1999. So I was seven. So that. Yeah, yeah, that's the one, isn't it? And I couldn't believe it when I got into later life and people were saying that it was rubbish. What are you talking about? I couldn't get enough of that film.
A
Yeah, I liked the makeup. I said, this is cool, princess.
B
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
I don't know. They made some really interesting. And then, of course, everyone always talks about the choice to leave the ear piercings in for Darth Maul because he had those real ear piercings and he was like the actor. He was like, I can't take him out. They're like new piercings. And so George Lucas was like, all right, I guess Darth Maul has ear piercings. That was kind of like a funny little thing.
B
Seriously, I've never noticed that.
A
Yeah. I don't know why that keeps hitting my feed, but what a great bit of trivia. The Darth Maul actor has, like, earrings, which people think is kind of funny.
B
Okay, I'm looking at a picture now. It does seem he's got like the top of the ear, like a bar through there. But then also you can see two holes in the lower ear. So he's obviously got two more piercings.
A
Yes.
B
Who was that guy? Did he end up doing anything else? We gotta find out.
A
I mean, I think he's mostly a stunt guy because he doesn't speak much. Right. So, yeah, I think they got a stunt actor as opposed to.
B
Okay, the pillow fort. Encyclopedia's talking about Peter Serafenovich for Darth Maul, but I'm not sure why.
A
Who's that?
B
He's a really good English comedian, but for some reason he comes up. Ray park is another. I think he's Darth.
A
I think Ray park is Darth. Yeah.
B
Darth Vader went to my parents wedding.
A
Really mad.
B
That isn't it. Yeah.
A
Not James Earl Jones, but an impersonator.
B
No, no, no. The real. The real Darth Vader. The original, but not the, like the guy that was in the suit.
A
The face, not the voice. Wow.
B
Yeah. Yeah. It was a guy called David Prowse. That was his name.
A
Wow.
B
He's a massive like 6 foot 6 bodybuilder.
A
Oh my goodness.
B
And he was a real. He was like West Country. He's from Bristol way. So Darth Vader actually sounded like that, which is pretty cool.
A
I don't know why they didn't go with that.
B
I know, weird. Why would they not Got some other, some other nobody to voice it, like,
A
I am your father.
B
Exactly. Yeah. Nothing wrong with that.
A
No. Okay, well, we've taken quite the tangent because I'm still interested in. Are you making a military vehicle? Is that what I'm assuming with Lego? With your knockoff? Lego, yeah.
B
Well, knockoff is. That's a. It's a big.
A
Such a harsh word.
B
Harsh phrase that. Yeah. And also building. I've already built it. I finished it. It took me three days.
A
Wow.
B
Probably about an hour. An hour each. About three hours maybe. I just went. I had a Sunday off and I had nothing on and my girlfriend was away and I just thought, you know what I'm gonna go to. We got a hobbycraft shop at a retail park not far away. And I just looked online and saw that they did these World War II Sherman tank Lego sets.
A
That is cool. Yeah.
B
40 quid.
A
That's much better than what they got going on at LEGO corporate.
B
Well, this is it. They don't do military stuff. And also, if that were Lego, it would be way more 100, 200.
A
I think so.
B
So I couldn't believe it. I feel like I'm losing money by not getting it.
A
Yeah.
B
So I went straight down there and this poor girl. So I looked down the aisle where these. They're called Kobe. Kobe. I think Kobe bricks or something. It's exactly the same as Lego but a different brand. And they had a few different models down there. And I couldn't find this Sherman Tank. And I knew it was in stock because it said online. So I went to the front desk and this like 18 year old girl was there. I said, sorry, if you got this, this Sherman Tank model. And she was like, it's down there. Have you looked down the model aisle? I said, yeah, it's not there. She said, well, let's go and have a look. So she came with me and she was looking through these tanks. She's like, is it this? I was like, no, no, that's a Panther tank. That's not the.
A
You're like, I hate to say this, but that is not the one.
B
Yeah, that's. And then she looked at the. Like, I had the listing on my phone. I said, it's this one. He said, I'll just put the product code in M4E8. And I was like, oh, it's not the product code. That's the type of tank that it is, actually. Why are you making me do this? This is so embarrassing.
A
You're having to pull out all of your tank knowledge at this woman in the hobby store.
B
And also because of all that, it made it abundantly clear that I wasn't buying this for my nephew or something. Immediately she's like, okay, this guy, he wants that. This guy has got nothing going on. This is for him, isn't it?
A
No other tank will do for this man nothing.
B
His appetite cannot be satiated.
A
Exactly.
B
So she went into the back, and I was just stood near the front door, incidentally. Bumped into a friend of mine from school who I've not seen for about 15 years.
A
Was he also getting a little tank?
B
Well, he was actually getting some colorful pens and big card to make something for the students, the kids that he teaches, you know, doing something very fulfilling and wholesome in the world. And he said, are you up to anything exciting? Funny you should say that. Yes, I am.
A
He's like, oh, you're building this for charity. You go, yeah, well, it'll spread joy to me.
B
Well, which in turn, I will then put that joy.
A
Yes. Back into the collective pot, eventually trickle down Joyconomics.
B
Exactly. So I stood by the front door, and she comes out from the back, and she just lifted the box up like that. And I didn't even mean to. I went, yes. And I was like, oh, no.
A
You clicked your heels together. You jumped in the air. You said, yippee.
B
I was like, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's that one.
A
I think so, I guess.
B
I think that's the one he said. Said he wanted. Yeah. Embarrassing.
A
Wow.
B
But got it home. And what a fulfilling experience. Up until I. I completely get what people mean when they say that. It's quite a Zen thing to do. It really was like, I didn't have anything else on. I put a bit of, like, music on in the background, but nothing. And then just. Just did my Lego, and it was so soothing right up until the last. So it comes in three separate big bags, which is like three big pieces, and the third bag, which was the turret. I'd almost built all of it, and then went to push the two bits together, and it just didn't go. I was like, oh, God, I've done this wrong somewhere. I've got this wrong somewhere on the line. I couldn't figure out where so my girlfriend text me saying, what was that? Because all she heard.
A
This is really bringing out a lot of emotions in you.
B
I was really angry.
A
Pure joy, pure rage.
B
So I was gonna get a kitchen knife, and then we just sat on the sofa just trying to pick apart the Lego that I'd spent hours putting together. But very calm about it after that, once it was all apart and I sat there, lesson learned. Be a bit more diligent in reading the instructions. And. And. And then, yeah, we finished it. And I'll show you the picture there. You'll notice the minifigures as well.
A
Oh, wow. I mean, that is a striking vehicle. Yeah, that is a beautiful, beautiful vehicle. Yeah.
B
And it's good quality.
A
What time period would this tank have been rolling around if it were real?
B
This was based on a. It's based on a real tank. It's got writing on the side as well. It's based on a real photo of a Sherman tank. Says first in Bastogne on it, which was sort of winter 44 into January. 45. Yeah.
A
Oh, wow.
B
In fact, I'm going over to. I'm headlining the Luxembourg Comedy Festival in. I think it's like October or November or something, which is where Bastogne is, at the Ardennes Forest. So I'm going to go and do a little battlefield tour, I think. Can't wait.
A
I think. Don't. Don't bring the tank. It'll scare them.
B
Don't bring the tank, you say?
A
I think it'll be scary.
B
Do you think they'd want to see it?
A
I think they've seen enough of it. Right.
B
Imagine that. We've seen enough.
A
We've seen enough. Well, this is bringing up an interesting article that I read, which is, firstly, I'm very proud of you. Okay. I don't want that to go. I don't want that to go unsaid.
B
Thank you very much. It took a little while to get there, but yeah.
A
Yes. I don't want that to go unsaid. I think it's a beautiful tank and I'm glad you got the one that you needed.
B
Thank you.
A
The article I read, cnn, says this is the first time ever in history that adults have bought more toys for themselves than kids.
B
Oh, okay. I can see why.
A
So usually it's like preschool dominates the toy market. It's three to four years old. There's just. You're getting tons and tons of toys for these kids, but for the first time, adults are buying it for themselves. And Lego was said. Squishmallows Was the big one, though. Have you seen those things?
B
I'm going to say there's a difference here. Well, of course it's cool when I do it. Everything else is embarrassing.
A
Well, CNN says that in the article. They say this would be embarrassing for anyone else. Except if you're building a Sherman tank.
B
There we go. Yeah. No, I don't. What's a Squish? Squish. Yeah. A Squishmallow or a Sherman tank.
A
I mean, one is the face of pure violence, and then one is the Sherman tank.
B
Lovely stuff. Really lovely.
A
Thank you so much. Do you. Have you seen these Squishmallows? These look familiar to you?
B
No, I have never seen. What is it like, just like a plushie toy.
A
It's a plushie. It's got, like, dead little black eyes and a cute little smile.
B
There's loads of. What are they called? Everyone loves them. The Boo Boos. Same sort of thing, isn't it?
A
Yeah, it is. These Squishmallows are huge. Which is kind of part of their appeal, it seems, is. And by the way, if you're listening, with a Squishmallow, you're in good company. These are very, very popular. I have nothing bad to say about them. And I think they're quite cozy. They're really pillowy. So it's like a lot of. You'll have a lot of them on your bed, it seems. It doesn't quite appeal to me. I'm not much of a stuffed animal head. That's just my truth. But.
B
So you're. But you're open to the Squishmallows?
A
Not in a way that I would want one. My ex did buy me one, and I was like, huh, I think I don't feel seen. I'm not feeling seen in this world.
B
There's no reason. He's an ex.
A
Yeah, but there was a deal at Costco, so what can you do?
B
Oh, really?
A
Yeah, they got big ones over there.
B
Oh, now I'm interested. Okay.
A
Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're going back to your roots here, which you love Costco.
B
Okay, that's interesting. I'm just worried about. I don't want to. Because when you said that about that article, I feel like I'm painting myself into the same corner here as Disney adults, which is. Nothing wrong with that.
A
But that's not your truth.
B
It's not me. Yeah, it's not me. So I wouldn't necessarily buy toys. Although it depends. Doesn't it? Like there's been that tank or like that VR headset that I got there. All things that I thought when I was a kid, I looked at that and gone, God, I'd love one of them. I thought. But now, mid-30s, I've got disposable income. I go, I'll go and get it. That's great.
A
That's the thing. I think a lot of people are in that same boat where it's like there's something offering tactile joy that is not, you know, our screens. And I'd like to see what's going on with that. And I think a lot of things are considered a toy. Would I call that Sherman tank that you built a toy?
B
Absolutely not. No, no.
A
But perhaps it's in the same category of toys.
B
So military hardware. Yeah.
A
It's really hard work and it's something that you had to do.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was no two ways. Yeah, I had to do that. We should look into that. On that. We should look at another episode. We're running out of time. But we should look at top toys that people are buying who aren't kids. I'm interested to know.
A
I think now though, it's time to call it. Good night. I'm gonna cozy up to my squishmallow that I still have. Actually, I think I sold it. It's an orange mammoth.
B
Mammoth.
A
Mammoth. But I'm gonna say goodnight to. I'm gonna say goodnight to your friend that you saw in the hobby store. It's nice that he was making something really worthwhile and really giving back. So good night to him.
B
Nice. I'd completely forgotten about that. I was just going to give a big goodnight to the. The second figure actually on that tank. Poor little fella. I did drop a bag at one point. I lost. She got put the figure. I lost a foot, so.
A
Oh, God. Well, it's wartime.
B
Little wounded man. But he still looks great.
A
Look at a purple heart.
B
Yeah, great. He's bought me a lot of joy. So. Yeah. Good night to little Little One Leg.
A
Good night to Little Man. And good night to you listeners. And good night to you, Matt. Talk to you next time.
B
Night K. Sa. To learn more about our phone free light and audio experience, head to Hatch co. You can also follow us at Hatch Podcasts.
The Nightly Podcast
Episode: The Survivor Finale Goof & Grown-Up Toys
Date: May 26, 2026
Hosted by: Matt Bragg & KP Parker
Tonight’s episode of The Nightly is a cozy, meandering late-night chat between comedians Matt Bragg and KP Parker, focusing on two main threads: the widely discussed goof during the live finale of Survivor, and a deep dive into the world of adult “toys,” from Lego tanks to plushy Squishmallows. The show blends playful pop culture analysis with warm, relatable stories from the hosts’ lives, all delivered in a soft, humorous, sleep-ready style.
The Unexpected Spoiler
How It Happened
Damage Control
Impact and Hilarity
Controversy Around Betting Leaks
Matt’s Sherman Tank “Lego” Adventure
Zen and the Art of Model Building
Adult Toy Trend
The hosts keep an inviting, self-deprecating humor and gentle camaraderie, punctuating fun facts with sleepy warmth and playful ribbing. Even as discussions veer into tangents (Darth Maul’s ear piercings, Star Wars video games, Matt’s in-depth tank knowledge), the show remains relatable and cozy, perfect for winding down.
This episode is ideal for unwinding—offering comfort in late-night musings, nerdy deep dives, and the assurance that finding joy in little things (even Lego tanks!) is universal.
Goodnight to the one-legged tank figure, to friends old and new, and to all listeners seeking a little joy before rest.