Podcast Summary
The Nightly: "The Swedish Sleep Revelation" w/ Shelby Wolstein
Host: Hatch Podcasts
Date: December 21, 2025
Guests: Shelby Wolstein (comedian), KP, and Josh
Episode Overview
This cozy, bedtime-themed episode of The Nightly brings comedic warmth to your nighttime wind-down routine. Hosts KP and Josh, joined by guest Shelby Wolstein—a self-described connoisseur of coziness—explore the art of comfort in daily life, sleep rituals, and the recent trend of the "Swedish sleeping method." Along the way, they dig into playful games, hilarious personal anecdotes, and the critical question: Which bedding reigns supreme?
Key Discussion Points & Insights
Shelby’s Cozy Credentials (01:18–02:24)
- Shelby’s identity is rooted in comfort: "I think my entire sense of style is based on comfort... There’s not a thing I wear that isn’t comfortable." – Shelby (01:42)
- Prefers bed to couch, using bed for both lounging and sleep: "When I'm home, unless people are over, I’m not on my couch. I’m in my bed." – Shelby (01:53)
- Josh and KP joke about being “horizontal gals” and loving “fall into bed season.”
The Elf Movie Tangent & Santa Confessions (03:38–06:31)
- Fun discussion about watching Elf repeatedly in school—KP as a theater teacher justifies it for “characterization.”
- Shelby and Josh, both from non-Christian backgrounds, share outsider perspectives on Santa lore and being left out:
- "No one in my family really addressed Santa to me... I just believed it was real because everyone was talking about him." – Shelby (04:44)
- "They [parents] just kind of went along with the Santa story…except we never got to see him." – Josh (04:58)
- The trio jokes about being “irrelevant” to Santa rather than “naughty.”
Game: Kiss, Marry, Kill – Bedding Edition (07:19–16:12)
- The group plays a sleepy version of "Kiss, Marry, Kill"—duvet, quilt, or weighted blanket.
- Shelby deep-dives on bedding hierarchy:
- Kiss: Weighted blanket. "What a joy... it really does wash the worries away. But to get there is more activity than I want every night for the rest of my life." – Shelby (12:43)
- Marry: Duvet. "Daily joy of a duvet... I trust you. There’s loyalty there because I know where you’re getting cleaned." – KP (14:24)
- Kill: Quilt. Shelby feels guilty, "I think you have to kill the quilt. Yeah... and I’m not proud of it." (13:36)
- Issues with weighted blankets: “If you put it at the bottom of your bed… I'm not doing, like, CrossFit right now.” – Shelby (11:30)
- Duvet’s pros: Easy to wash, daily comfort, symbiotic relationship.
- Quilts: Sentimental, often beautiful, but less practical.
Bedding Logistics, Laundry & "Swedish Sleep" Technique (09:00–15:57)
- Discussion of the complexities of bedding: fitted sheets vs. top sheets, partner preferences, and tangled experiences.
- Josh: "On my wife’s side, it’s fully intact. My side… looks like I forgot to pick up the dry cleaning and just jumped out of bed." (09:29)
- KP introduces the Swedish (or Scandinavian) sleeping method:
- Each partner has their own duvet or blanket on the same bed.
- "You each have your own blankets... So each of you can have a light sheet if you like." – KP (10:09)
- Josh shares that his grandparents slept in one bed with two mattresses and separate covers: “They were just Swedish, secretly.” (10:40)
- Hosts weigh comfort vs. effort in bedding—putting on a duvet cover is noted as relationship “work.”
Wedding Chores, Blanket Stories & T-Shirt Quilts (16:32–21:26)
- Conversation detours into unusual, “survivalist” wedding logistics:
- KP: “I went to a wedding... where everyone was handed a chore list. I think perhaps this isn’t the spot for us.” (17:46)
- Group distinctions between “chores” and “favors”—dishes as an example of a no-go.
- T-shirt quilt nostalgia:
- Josh: “I would feel weird...like: you’re going to sleep under all my favorite bands…and comedy festivals I did nine years ago and didn’t have fun at.” (20:52)
- KP adds, “My college improv shirts—I need to go cuddle up to those.” (21:04)
Final Bedding Verdicts & Farewells (19:04–22:47)
- KP isn’t a weighted blanket fan: “To me, it drives my anxiety up a little bit because I feel trapped.” (15:53)
- Josh is firmly a “marry duvet” person but likes quilts for decor.
- Shelby jokes that kissing a family quilt would feel “perverted,” since it’s “Grandma made.” (20:12)
- Banter about grandmothers being "bombshells" and deep mutual respect closes the discussion with signature warmth.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- "I'm very much the grandparents from Willy Wonka." – Shelby (02:38)
- "The opposite of nice isn't naughty. It's irrelevant." – Josh (05:53)
- "You just can't underemphasize, though, the daily joy of a duvet." – KP (13:50)
- "Putting a duvet in the duvet cover is enough to get it killed." – Shelby (14:02)
- "We’ve bought a few weighted blankets…they always kind of end up floor by the side of the bed. Because of the weight." – Josh (19:48)
- "My grandmas are bombshells... Absolute gilps." – Shelby (21:56)
- "The body keeps the score at a Jewish wedding." – KP (18:39)
Segment Timestamps
- [01:18–02:24] — Shelby’s cozy home habits
- [03:38–06:31] — Thoughts on "Elf," Santa, and religious outsider insights
- [07:19–16:12] — Kiss, Marry, Kill: Duvet, Quilt, Weighted Blanket Debate
- [09:00–10:26] — The great Top Sheet debate, partner sleep habits
- [10:08–10:57] — Introduction to the "Swedish Sleep" technique
- [16:32–18:22] — Wedding chores: favors vs. real chores
- [20:46–21:26] — The questionable appeal of T-shirt quilts
- [19:04–22:47] — Final thoughts, goodnights, and expressions of respect
Tone & Style
The episode is light, quick-witted, and playfully self-aware. It balances genuine warmth with sharp, relatable humor and plenty of fresh pop culture references. The conversation is intimate yet lively—perfect for cozying up before bed.
