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Hello. You're about to drift into an episode of the Nightly, a podcast designed to help you unwind and relax. For the full phone free immersive light experience, visit Hatch Co. Enjoy. Hey there. I'm Sophia.
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Hi, I'm Josh.
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And I'm kp. Welcome to the Nightly from Hatch, a slumber party for pop culture lovers. Good evening, Sophia. Good evening, Josh.
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Good evening, y'. All.
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And a good evening to each of you as well.
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Really formal tonight. Yeah.
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It's feeling like a really nice and sleepy cozy one though.
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I know this is my first recording with three hosts in the pillow fort, so it is extra cozy for me and I'm getting acclimated. But I like it. I think it's really nice we're shoulder.
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To shoulder in this pillow for. We're just knocking against each other in here trying to record.
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It's a bit of a fire hazard, but we're going to just party through it.
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That's right.
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Because it is all feather pillows everywhere.
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I didn't even insist on the traditional dude style head to toe sleeping arrangements. We're all shoulder to shoulder.
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Exactly.
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We're right here.
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I know it's like mid January, but. How was everyone's New Year's?
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I hosted a party at my home. It was indie sleaze themed. You know, a classic. Why not? I really worked hard on the playlist. I mean, I did Spotify's new. Like I don't even know how new it is, but their mix feature where it like DJs one song into the next.
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Cool.
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Oh, yeah. And I spent a lot of time like arranging the BPMs in order.
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Wow.
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And the like.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Oh my gosh.
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So DJ career starts now.
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Wow. DJ KP starts now.
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DJ kp.
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The issue is that I left the Spotify jam open by accident. And so I came in and somebody was playing women screaming noises. Oh, for five minutes.
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That's like a bit of a prank.
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Or as a bit of a prank. Yep.
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Got it.
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I didn't even know those were available to listen to.
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Just sort of like a Halloween sound effect. Noise got in the mix and that was really cool.
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Got it.
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That was a lot.
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Yeah.
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Well, that is kind of like my friends and I, our favorite thing to do at parties used to be put on the tv. Titanic sinking in real time.
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That's actually kind of nice.
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It's amazing. It's honestly a beautiful, stunning visual. And you get to learn about how the timeline felt of the Titanic sinking.
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And when the band stops playing, party's over.
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Exactly.
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It's Time to go home. Kp.
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Was there a sequence of songs you were most proud of that you were like, people are gonna go wild on the dance floor for this.
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It wasn't exactly this, but I really liked azealiabanks212. Went kind of into passion pits. Take a walk, I think. And it was just like, really good to see this full spectrum of indie sleaze in that moment where it was like, yeah, Azealia Banks was there. We were all there. And then weren't we also here?
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Yes.
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So that was nice.
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That's amazing.
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Yeah.
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I tried to make sure, like, it wasn't just mgmt. There was a lot of things going on at the time. You can't just get stuck in the popular songs.
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That's right.
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Yeah.
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Did you dress up?
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I did dress up. I didn't go so, so hard because I actually kind of wanted to be authentic, which is kind of more annoying. I know, but no, I like, kind of had the clothes that I had. And some people really brought stuff out of their closets from the time period, which was nice. Some archival collections, you know.
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Can I say something about me being a prophet? Basically, years and years or years ago, before I feel like people were even using the common term indie sleaze, I posted a TikTok about how people needed to start having parties that were themed. I didn't even have the terminology of indie sleuth. I was just using the time period. Oh, my God. And look at us now.
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Look at us now.
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Yeah. I've never hosted one myself.
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Prophets didn't always host the parties.
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No.
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They just called the shots.
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Yes. I'm just the mouthpiece.
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Yeah. When you would go see an oracle, they would be like, can you come next week? We're having kind of like a real rager tonight at my oracle cave.
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What about you, Josh? What did you do for New Year's?
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I was working. I was in Portland, Oregon, and. Yeah. And I was doing stand up and it was really fun. I had three days in Portland. I saw a lot of friends. I went to see a basketball game out there.
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The Trailblazers.
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The Trailblazers, indeed. And it was a really nice time. I had just lots of good, like, kind of hangouts back to back with friends. The two days I was in or three days I was in town. Yeah.
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I would say that Portland, Oregon, in many ways, is like a place where indie sleaze is still alive and well.
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Actually, that's really true. They're still using mustache wax.
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They are 100%, among other things, no doubt.
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There's, like, out in the mountains, there's like, one American Apparel outlet that never closed.
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Yes, yes.
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Just being run by rogues.
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It's like the Marfa, like, Prada store, but that's right. Okay, well, guys, speaking of Portland, Oregon, where I'm from, and me being an oracle, a prophet, it's my episode now.
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Take the wheel.
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Okay. That's kind of my take on a transition, so let that sink in. But basically, what we're gonna do. An evil cackle.
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It works for Drag race.
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Exactly. It's Mr. Energy and an evil cackle. What we're going to do tonight is that we're going to do. Scroll for you. Everyone's almost at everyone's favorite show. How rude of me to say something like that. But this is basically where I'm going to tell you guys things I saw on the Internet this past week or so, and we'll talk about them.
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Great.
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The first one really made me laugh. Y' all know about Club Chalamet?
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I do, absolutely.
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Obviously. Have you guys seen her tweet? That made me laugh?
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Well, is it recent? Recent. Throw it at me.
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Basically, Club Chalamet, for people who don't know, is a Gen X woman who is obsessed with Timothee Chalamet and has a Twitter account in honor of him under the name of Club Chalamet. And sometime kind of recently, Timothee Chalamet was at an awards show with Kylie Jenner. And of course, in some ways, even more importantly, Club Chalamet was also there. Basically, Club Chalamet tweets this. Okay, so I gave Timothy a hug and said, happy birthday here at the Palm Springs Film Festival Gala. I told Brian that this is Timothy's year, and he said he hopes so. I don't know who Brian is.
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I also don't know who Brian is.
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Like, his manager is my assumption. Another really important thing about Club Chalamet is that she hates Kylie Jenner.
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Hates.
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Never liked it. Yep.
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She actually has a nickname for her that. I forget what it is. It's something rude. She never says her real name. Okay.
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Her thing is, like, Kylie Jenner is, like, holding Timmy back.
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Yes. Right. And she literally has posted, like, when Timothy and, like, Kylie will, like, go out somewhere in public, she's like, you guys, it's okay to, like, take rest and, like, take care of yourselves today. I know this is really hard for a lot of us. Okay. I'm getting information from the pillow talk gods that Kylie's nickname is Slurpee.
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Slurpee.
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Because she is a cheap drink, which is so rude.
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Cheap drink sounds like a 1930s insult.
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Yeah, we can't be doing that. That's just not right.
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That is really mean.
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Yeah, that's really mean.
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That's really not it.
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And this lady, it cannot be stressed enough that she is just a lone.
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Weirdo who I honestly love and respect. I have complicated feelings towards her. Anyway, someone responded to this tweet and said, did you say hi to Kylie? She was next to him. The tweet in response is what I've been loving. She says I was inches from her period. No problems, period.
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I saw this. No problems is really awesome. No problems.
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No problems.
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Because there could have been, but there wasn't.
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This time it begs the question, what would the problem have been? Of course I was talking about this with a friend and it's like, Kylie's not going to create a problem.
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Right.
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So you would have to be instigating. If there was a problem, it would have to be coming from Club Chalamet.
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Right. One of the most media trained celebrities on planet Earth. Like her outward existence is like media trained.
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Exactly.
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Her outward facing existence. And then like one erratic super fan with a intense parasocial relationship.
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Yeah. So no problems. But I'm going to start saying that again.
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No problems.
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No problems.
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That's really funny.
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If you guys were to like have a club Chalamet, like, who would your club. Who would it be? Like Club Blank. If y' all were running that.
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Oh, in the Tumblr days, mine was looking kind of club.
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Yeah.
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Because I would just. Any Winona Rider pick, I'd reblog.
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Oh, sure.
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That's a different angle. Oh, that's a new outfit.
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She had some good looks.
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She did.
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God, she was so cool to me. I mean, she is very cool. But it was a lot of that. And then I went through a really heavy Joseph Gordon Levitt phase. But that's not the truth anymore.
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No, you're off that.
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It's not the truth. I mean, I'm off him. He would really have to win me back.
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Okay. Did he do something bad?
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Sorry, I just haven't seen anything lately.
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He would have to be in an amazing role or something, which I think he's capable of.
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But let's get casting directors. Where are you?
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I thought he was charming in that movie where he taught a lady to play guitar on Zoom.
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What movie was that?
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It was by the guy who made Sing street and once. And the actress was. Gosh, what's her name? She was in Bad Sisters. She's Bono's daughter.
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Okay. It was a musical film maybe called Flora and Son.
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That's what it was. Flora and Son. You nailed it.
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Sofia, Sophie, you just remembered that, y', all.
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I keep getting downloads, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm feeling like.
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You are a prophet, but this time you are a prophet from the past.
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I am a prophet.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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Laura Ann's son, and he was on Zoom.
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Yeah, he, like, taught her how to play guitar on Zoom. She was, like, a single mom, and she. Her son really wanted to be a dj, and he was kind of a. He. He could be a little handful. And she was playing guitar as, like, a. Something for her.
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Yeah. Okay, so KP maybe check into that.
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I'll check in. It hasn't moved the needle enough already. I hate to say.
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It doesn't have to.
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Club Levitt is just, like, not up and running at this time.
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It doesn't even, like, sound good, to be honest.
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No, I know. Josh, who are you. Who are you clubbing for, though?
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Oh, you know who I would. I would get really into, and, like, I would get very jealous, but, like, fake not jealous at their romantic partners and, like, really get psyched for them to win awards. Is Big Ellie the New York Liberty mascot?
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Oh, yeah.
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Hey, Club Ellie.
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Yeah, Ellie.
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Does Ellie have a spouse?
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Not that I know there's not a.
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Mr. Ellie, but there would be problems if Mr. Ellie was next to you.
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I could be inches away. No problems.
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I could be.
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I was inches from him. An elephant. No problem. No problems.
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That one. I would kind of. You would have to credit the elephant, because an elephant doesn't even know what they're causing problems.
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No, no, no, no, no, no. That is good. I feel like I've been having Club Chalamet esque feelings towards Eva Victor lately. Oh, sure. And actually, I'm scared to even talk about this, but. Because it's like, you know, anything can happen. But yes, yes, because y' all know anything can happen. Looking directly into the camera.
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Eva Victor, if you're listening.
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If you have a hatch. If you have a hatch.
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Oh, my God. If they have a hatch and they're listening. Well, my worst nightmare, anyway.
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I know this could be the start of something beautiful.
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Mm.
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Because I do think part of Club Chalamet, to me, is a bit of a, like, delusion, and I'm feeling a bit delusional about them, but I feel.
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Like Eva, a movie star and a star writer as well, does kind of have one foot still in the professional circles that we travel in despite being.
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And well, that is why it's even scarier.
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But that's what makes it less delusional too.
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Exactly. So you see how that's bad.
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And to be exposed as Club Victor. To be exposed as the face of Club Victor, the Finsta that you're running would be really bad.
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That would be horrifying. Anyway, so I have completely normal feelings about them. Whatever. And not even, like, romantic or anything.
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Yeah, I don't even know you brought it up. I think we all feel really normal about Eva Victor.
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Don't know about that.
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But my one other one is Skyler Jason. Do I am weird about him?
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Oh, I like him.
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I don't even know if I know who that is.
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You would know him if you saw him.
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He's got a particular sort of face. Okay. And just would work for me.
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It would be amazing. Okay.
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I've just been banging this drum for a bit, so I was kind of on the ground floor. If I wanted to do a club Jesondo, I would have had to start it already. Because now been in Superman shoot. His star is really on the rise. So I'm behind. I have a lot of work to do this week.
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This week, in the next week. You can get. Get there.
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No, I'm getting there.
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Okay. I have another thing to tell you guys about.
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Please, please.
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Basically, did you guys hear about this article that Ashley Tisdale wrote for the Cut? Okay.
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Only vaguely. So this is going to be really helpful for you to go through this.
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Thank you. Please illuminate this for us.
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Yeah.
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Okay. Honestly, I would say it's, like, actually not that interesting.
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All right.
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Basically, I can really do a quick recap, but she was part of, like, a mom group when she, like, first had her kid. She was like, I, like, met someone. And then she, like, introduced me to, like, her group of friends and I, like, became part of, like, their group chat or whatever and would hang out with them. And she was like. It felt like very nice because it was all these, like, badass chicas who are raising kids and taking meetings. Y'. All. My dream. And then they kind of her vibe or feeling about it is that they kind of started to ice her out a bit.
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Okay.
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She said there were group hangs happening, that she was not invited to that at one dinner party, maybe they sat her far away from the other people or something.
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Just by herself.
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Yeah. They put her at the bar alone. Yeah. And she, like, basically, like, broke up with the friend group and was like, this is all feeling very high school to me. This is A thing that happens with large groups of friends too, I think. Especially when it's not like, necessarily like, oh, I have, like, forged deep individual friendships with xyz, but maybe I became friends with one person and they, like, brought me into this group and it's a little bit more like, I don't know. I feel like that happens more often. But I guess a lot of mothers shout out to them, love you guys. Horribly felt very seen by the piece and said that she was very brave for speaking out.
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I bet it's really hard to be in a social group that is, like, connected by your children. Like, I bet it's so complicated because you care so much about your kids and you don't always click. Like, the group doesn't necessarily forge because, like, you all get along great. It's like, oh, I have this friend and like, they go to this karate class or like, they're in this pottery group of these other kids.
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Yeah, yeah. And I guess Hilary Duff's husband responded to it.
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So this is what I was hearing that I'm confused on. So what's going on with the Duff of it all?
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Yeah, I guess this is where things get interesting, you could say.
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I think it's all been interesting.
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Thank you. And thank you so much. Hilary Duff's husband posted a kind of like fake photo of him as though he was about to do, like an interview with the cut on his Instagram. And the title of the story is, when you're the most self obsessed, tone deaf person on earth, other moms tend to shift focus to their actual toddlers. So.
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So now this is interesting.
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Now things are interesting.
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Wow, that's cold.
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When you're the most self obsessed, tone deaf person on earth, that's.
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I'm gonna go out and say it. That's even more vicious than calling someone a cheap drink.
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Yeah, actually, justice for Club Calumet. So the other thing I heard was that, like, Ashley Tisdale follows Haley Duff, but had unfollowed Hillary. So I think maybe Hillary is in the mix here. I mean, she isn't just kind of a random guy inserting himself, which is not unheard of.
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That's so true.
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I'm club this guy.
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Yeah, you might be club Matthew Coma.
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Matthew Coma.
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All right, Matthew, come. It is funny when people insert themselves into something where it's like, wait, no one was even talking about Hilary Duff.
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And you brought it in. Now we're talking about Hillary Dylan, the.
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Only thing I could think that would incite that type of rage is that at one point in the article, she's like, I'm not saying these moms are, like, evil or something. And then in parentheses, except for, like, maybe one. So maybe that was the shade at Hillary or something, but maybe something really bad happened between the two of them.
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I do have to respect a husband taking public shots at his wife's enemies.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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When he was not involved at all, and she was not even publicly involved. That is an important part of being married to someone.
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I know. I wonder if she knew he was going to do that. And sometimes with things like this, I'm like, what if he meant to put that on his close friend story?
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Sure.
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No, he. He went to Canva for this one. He made this photo, so now he.
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Knew what he was.
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I agree with you, Josh. I think sometimes I am, though, like, to the previous point, where it is like, hey, I've been famous since I was 13. If you're Hilary Duff.
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Yeah.
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Don't drag me into stuff. I'm good. I'm actually good. I'm, like, fully full up on the amount of people I can have thinking and talking about me since I was 13. So just go ahead and keep that. Yeah, but that's probably something they. They talk about.
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It is also, like, I kind of don't know. In a situation like that, like, to. To give both sides of credit, I imagine that it's very painful to have that kind of thing happen to you. Right. To be like, oh, I found this really. This really warm and embracing community and then feel like you've been kind of pushed out of it. But also, I don't know how as an adult, like, I don't know if being that upfront of going, like, hey, we all talked behind your back, and we just are not feeling this friendship.
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We all.
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We all. I cannot emphasize enough that, like, none of us want to hang out with you. Like, that seems weird.
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I know.
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Like, that seems meaner than, like, friend ghosting.
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But sometimes you go, why did everyone turn her back on? She might be a little bit rotted. She might have a bad personality.
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Totally.
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Certain people, acquaintances in my life, and they have a lot of friends that have dropped them. And I go, what's the con?
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I know, of course. Of course.
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What do you think? And. But not that that's here. But I go, maybe she needed this. Maybe she needed to hear from Matthew Coma saying, you are rotted. You're rotted. Bad news.
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My wife, Hillary Duff, just wants to hang out with her toddler.
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Literally.
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She doesn't want an adult toddler.
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I feel like My read, though, I don't know how true this is, is that I'm like, like, based on the article, it sounded kind of like people were closer within the group that you joined late. Anyway, so he really did, like, kind of ratchet up the tension.
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Totally.
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Because the article was not like a huge, like, indignation.
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Oh, these girls.
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These girls. Yeah.
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Yeah. She was just like, oh, this was. This was a bad experience.
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Yeah, of course.
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Yeah.
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And that's like.
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And I'm sure it's lonely being a mom.
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Yeah, totally. Yeah. Well, you guys, I feel like we solved it, it being the issue of motherhood. Thank God. It's awful.
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Don't do it.
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And I'm getting pretty sleepy. But before we head to bed, we had a listener write in with a good night message that I wanted to share with everyone. His name is Avery and he says, please say goodnight to my sister Harper. We both listen to your podcast and she would love the surprise. Harper. Harper and Avery. Wait, sorry. Anyone here watch Grey's Anatomy?
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Yes.
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Oh, my God, that's his name. Anyway, yep, don't even worry about it. But you guys.
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Good night, Harper.
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Good night, Harper, and good night, Avery, and thank you so much for listening. And guess what?
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What?
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I have even more good news.
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Hit me.
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We separately got an email from Harper and she said hello to the Nightly crew. I was wondering if I could shout out my brother Avery for his birthday. It would truly mean the world. And oh, my God, you guys are so sweet.
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They are really cute siblings.
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Y' all are locked in. So happy birthday.
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That is really adorable.
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Happy birthday, Avery.
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Happy birthday.
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Oh, my God.
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And thank you, Harper, for listening, literally.
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Thank you, everyone.
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That's beautiful.
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So if you want to, you can send your special goodnights to the Nightly at Hatch Co. Please do. We love to hear them. And if you're as lucky as Harper and Avery, you'll get them read right on the show. So good night, everyone.
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Good night, everyone.
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Talk to you next time. Good night, Sophia and Josh, Sam.
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This Nightly episode offers a cozy, late-night chat among hosts Sophia, Josh, and KP, nestled in their legendary “pillow fort.” With its signature laid-back, irreverent tone, the crew recaps their New Year’s celebrations, riffs on quirky pop culture happenings (including fandom adventures, viral internet moments, and celebrity gossip), and winds things down with sweet listener shoutouts. As always, the vibe leans gentle, goofy, and conversational, giving pop culture insomniacs reasons to smile before bed.
"I left the Spotify jam open by accident and so I came in and somebody was playing women screaming noises… for five minutes."
— KP, ([02:00])
“She says, ‘I was inches from her. Period. No problems. Period.’”
— Sophia, ([08:21])
"No problems is really awesome. No problems."
— KP, ([08:28])
"To be exposed as Club Victor, the Finsta that you’re running, would be really bad."
— KP, ([12:55])
Ashley Tisdale’s “Mom Group” Article ([13:56])
Spillover Feud: Hilary Duff’s Husband Responds ([16:08])
“I’m gonna go out and say it. That’s even more vicious than calling someone a cheap drink.”
— Josh, ([16:50])
“Y’all are locked in. So happy birthday.”
— Sophia, ([21:27])
| Timestamp | Quote / Moment | Speaker | |-----------|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------| | 02:00 | "Somebody was playing women screaming noises…for five minutes." | KP | | 04:17 | "[Prophets] didn’t always host the parties. They just called the shots." | Josh | | 08:21 | “I was inches from her. No problems.” | Club Chalamet (via Sophia) | | 08:29 | “No problems. Because there could have been, but there wasn’t.” | KP | | 16:23 | "When you're the most self-obsessed, tone deaf person on earth, other moms tend to shift focus..." | Matthew Koma (via Sophia) | | 16:50 | "That’s even more vicious than calling someone a cheap drink." | Josh | | 12:55 | "To be exposed as Club Victor...would be really bad." | KP | | 21:27 | "Y’all are locked in. So happy birthday." | Sophia |
This episode of The Nightly is a perfect bedtime pop culture wind-down, meandering from indie sleaze nostalgia and internet fandom memes to the petty (but oh-so-relatable) politics of grown-up friendship circles. It’s peppered with sharp one-liners, memes-in-the-making (“No problems”), and moments of genuine sweetness, especially in the listener shoutout section. Snuggle in for company, comfort, and a much-needed laugh as you drift off — no problems.