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Hey there everybody, I'm Matt. Welcome to the nightly from Hatch where your late night thoughts go to. As I said, I'm Matt Young. I was previously a guest on the nightly and now I am taking over for the week. The pillow fort is all mine. I kicked everyone else out. You may know me from the podcast hello from the Magic Tavern where I play used or the wizard. Of course. That is a fully improvised comedy podcast set in a fantasy world like Game of Thrones or Lord of the Rings. But instead of going on a big adventure, we just host a talk show from a magical with a bunch of funny comedians and improvisers. So check it out if you get a chance. But if you want to come on the nightly to talk about anything that's on your mind, email us or send a voice memo to thenightlyach co. Now, before I get to my guest today, I just wanted to talk a little bit about the summer. We're in the middle of it, you know, and it's important to enjoy the summer now, no matter where you live, you may have a harsher winter or a very mild winter. Especially here in the US it can kind of run the gamut, right? We've got a lot of different ecosystems, a lot of different climate options to live throughout the U.S. but the summer is a really special magical time and you have to get out there and go for a walk, see some friends. If it's too hot, go to an air conditioned space and support some art, go to a gallery, go to a theater show, go to a movie and, you know, find a way to make the best of it. I mean, obviously there's all the great summer sports you can do. There's cycling, there's swimming, all that stuff is great. But the summer's also a time that there's a lot of great culture going on and a lot of times where that culture is, there's air conditioning. So think about that. Well, once you've decided how you're going to cool down, we're going to heat things up by bringing on our first guest. Kelsey, where are you from and what's on your mind tonight?
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Hello, I'm from Brisbane, Australia. My question is, and granted, I did come up with it when I just come out of anesthesia, but I got my wisdom teeth out five days ago and my question was, what do I do with all the extra space in my mouth?
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This is a very important question. So this might be a double long episode to make sure that we cover this completely and comprehensively. Well, my immediate funny answer is, and I'm just going to give you the answer straight out, is it's you should replace your wisdom teeth with giant sized, jumbo sized marshmallows carved into the shape of your wisdom teeth. Beautiful, but still really big.
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Yeah. Then they're sort of like an adaptable shape.
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Right. And if you get desperate, you can eat them if you're really in a pinch.
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Yeah, that's awesome. Like the cyanide capsules, but delicious.
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It's like a dessert. Cyanide capsule.
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Okay. I like it. Good concept.
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Okay, well, we've solved that, so.
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Great. I'll hang up now.
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No, no, no, no, Please, Kelsey, don't. If I may ask, I had. Well, I'm going to tell you something then. I'll ask my question. I had my wisdom teeth out when I was in college. College. It was my freshman year and it happened to follow my spring break, which I wasn't like a spring break person. That's not my vibe. It was just a week off of school, but I did go home and I spent the week in my hometown. And my mom, I think, also took some time off or at least was around a lot as I was kind of recovering. What was your recovery like? Did you have somebody there with you? Was it difficult? How'd it go?
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Yeah, I. I roped my little brother into looking after me for 24 hours. They said that someone had to be there to make sure that, you know, nothing horrible happened to me overnight.
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Sure, sure.
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It was. It was pretty okay. Like, I thought it was gonna be a lot worse than it was. The worst part, honestly, was just that my tongue was numb for 12 hours.
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Sure.
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And so I, you know, I had to fast before the. Before going in for the procedure. And so I was quite hungry by the time that I got home and couldn't eat any solids. And so I had like a. Like a little smoothie that I. That I had in the fridge. And I had. I was so scared because I couldn't. Couldn't feel where anything in my mouth was. And so I had to. I was pouring it into my mouth and I had to ask my brother. When there was juice in my mouth, I literally couldn't feel if there was anything in there. So, yeah, for 12 hours, he was watching me and guiding me through when to swallow, which was quite an experience.
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Yeah. Once in a lifetime. You'll never forget it.
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Yeah. Wonderful bonding experience.
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Oh, good. Are you. You're good friends with your brother. Are you guys getting closer through this experience?
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Yeah, we're pretty close. We have lived together for a few years in Brisbane since we moved out of our parents.
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Yeah. Well, that's cool.
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Yeah.
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So you get along and you roommate and brother. So I'm sure that there are times that you come to loggerheads, but most of the time you're doing pretty cool.
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Yeah.
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Kelsey, when you aren't good good. When you're not getting your wisdom teeth out, what is it that you. You do for a living?
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Well, one of the, one of the things that I've been thinking about with the wisdom teeth. So I actually am a singing teacher and so I've just been wondering, like I, I wonder.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. You're burying the lead here. You're a singing teacher who had her wisdom te. So did this affect your ability to work?
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Sorry, say that again.
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Did this affect your ability to work?
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Yes. So I've been off work for a week because I don't feel that I would be able to, you know, move my jaw in. In ways that are. That are fully conducive to singing with good technique. I, I, yeah, have been very curious to see whether the extra space in my mouth that, that I, that I, That I mentioned earlier, whether that might have an effect on, you know, like the resonance in my mouth. Like, you know, it's going to maybe change the, the shape of my vocal tract. And is that going to make my voice more or less, you know, like, can I kind of make the twang more concentrated? Like, who knows? I'm curious.
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So do you have a genre of music that you lean towards as a teacher? I know you probably do a lot of different things, but if left to your own devices, if you were going to go, if you were going to be the lead at a concert, what would you choose to sing? I guess.
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Yeah. So I'm a contemporary singing teacher. I mostly teach, like, pop rock kind of stuff.
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Okay.
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I was, who was raised in country music, so I do have a bit of experience singing in that genre, but as an adult, I tend to do a bit more pop rocky stuff and I tend to teach that mostly which is good fun.
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Is. Is country music popular in Australia? I always think of that as just a purely us thing that no one really wants to export.
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Yeah, it is shockingly like extremely popular in Australia.
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Really?
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Yeah, it's especially in the. The state of Queensland, which is where Brisbane is. Okay. So we're kind of like the, I guess like the, the Texas or, you know, the Tennessee or whatever of. Of Australia. So we're probably the. Yeah. The country music capital of. Of the country, but we do have our own, you know, our. Our huge hit, you know,
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Australia.
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And then we also love, you know, American country music.
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Wow. I had no idea. But you do more pop and rock now. That's where you. That's what sort of your roots. Not to bring up roots. Not to. Not to.
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You know.
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I know that might be sensitive, but that's incredible. So. Yeah. What's a. What. Give me. Give me some songs that you like or a band that you like. Like, kind of. Where do you sit? Pop and rock's a pretty big. Pretty big genre.
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Yeah, true. Let me think. I mean, on the outskirts of rock, we've got, you know, like, Evanescence is. Is one that people love to come in with and. And it's so fun to sing, I guess. Pop Valley. We've got, you know, your classics, like your Adele are so good. Always.
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Sure. Yeah.
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I was in a covers band for a while, so whenever I think of, you know, my favorite songs to do, it's. It's generally your. Your, you know, your Ed Sheerans and stuff that are a bit fun vocally, but, you know, crowd pleaser.
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Oh, so what kind of. So tell me a little about the. The COVID band.
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Yeah, it was actually me and my brother.
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Oh.
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So we. We started a little covers band in. Well, we started a covers band in 2019 and decided that we would, you know, invest, you know, every cent that we had in getting some gear and getting, you know, a third microphone so that we could, you know, give it to the crowd and, you know, just get really, really involved and active in live music. And then about three months later, we got into lockdown, and so we. We never really got a chance to use the third microphone, except for at one gig, actually, where it was a very, very strange night where we were just at a little dive bar and we brought out the third mic and took it out to the crowd to have a sing. And one of the table was the cast of the Elvis movie. What?
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Wow.
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It was really crazy. Like, we didn't know who they were. We just kind of gave them the microphone, all singing along. And someone came over and went, did you know that's Austin Butler? And I went, I don't know who that is.
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I don't know. Yeah.
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And they said, that's Vanessa Hudgens ex boyfriend. And I went, vanessa Hudgens.
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Oh. Oh, that hurts. Sorry. Austin Butler.
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Yeah. Now he's a household name, obviously. Yeah, he's. Yeah, he and his Elvis Crew were about the only people that got to try that microphone out before lockdown. And I think we lost it. In the years since.
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I had a very similar experience with hello from the Magic Tavern. The only time we've done a week long tour was in January of 2020. And we were working with a booking agent. We still have a booking agent, but we kind of do it differently now. But they had signed us up to do an entire week away. So we would do a show in a city, a show in a nearby city that we could drive to, then we would fly, then we would do a show in another city, then a drive to another city, then fly the next day. So then it'd be like seven or eight days. And it was super fun to just like hit a bunch of cities like super fast like that and do that many shows back to back to back. And then I was like, well, we're gonna do this four times a year. We're just gonna like pick a week every quarter and we're gonna like bang out eight shows and it'll be awesome. It was like, it was literally the end of January 2020 and lockdown obviously came and we couldn't continue with that, but we managed to drive anyway. I'm so sorry about your third mic. I hope you do find use for
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it again one day.
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Yeah, well, it's so interesting. So you and your brother both have this musical background. You're a singer. If you. So you're teaching singing, Is that like a. Are you doing that through like a school? Are you doing that independently? Like, is it just like you're doing your own thing or you're working for like a. Is it a school of rock situation?
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It's, it's. I work with a little private tutoring business, so it's an after school thing. But there are, you know, a few teachers that work there and it's such a lovely little community of teachers of, you know, every instrument under the sun. Which is actually where my brother also works. He's a piano teacher and our two roommates also work there. So the drumming teacher and another singing teacher.
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Oh, wow. Okay, that's great. So as a fan of music, as an artist yourself, as a musician, would you say that there is like one concert or artist that like you have to see in your lifetime that you're like, I will move heaven and earth to see this person or this group.
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This one's sort of just like a personal choice for me. I don't know that. That she's everyone's cup of tea. But I'm a huge fan of a, of a producer, singer, songwriter in America called K. Flay.
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Okay. Not familiar.
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Yeah, she has been on so many, like, really quite famous projects, but no one seems to know her name.
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Interesting.
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But yeah, she is just fantastic. I love the way that she writes. She really writes with her heart. Everything that she's written is about is that, you know, like the way that her life is as a result of, you know, the things that happened to her when she was younger. And you know, like, I just think that she, she writes bops that are, that are really wonderful for the mentally ill, but she's also just on stage like she was, she was so wonderful to watch when she came to Australia because she just like, is so a part of the music and. Yeah, just wonderful. Another person that I think is sort of similar in their stage presence maybe is in a different way is Aurora.
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Okay.
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You know Aurora.
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I don't know Aurora.
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Ah, you certainly look up Aurora. She's got like one of the most fantastic voices out there. But yeah, she, she just. When she's in her music, you can just see she's getting taken away by it. And I, I love that. So wonderful to watch.
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Well, and I love getting homework. So I'm going to check out both these artists. They both sound awesome. I have kind of a final question for you. What do you feel like you can do now that you were unburdened by these wisdom teeth?
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Oh, it's a great question. Currently I can eat solid foods.
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That's exciting. That's great.
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Long term, I'm curious, I'm curious to see what it does. The, you know, the having a little bit of extra space in my, in my vocal tract. Maybe I'll have a supercharged voice now. You know, I can, I can set up the, the resonant tuning of my vocal tracts to, to make my voice extend further and, and, and be more full. Who knows? I'm curious to see if it's going to unlock a superpower. I've heard that people, when they get their tonsils out, sometimes end up with a much bigger, you know, resonating chamber.
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Wow. Okay, well, I'm excited to hear what happens. So maybe right back into the show once you know how your vocal range changes and if you don't go the marshmallow route, as I suggested at the beginning, is there something that you would want to replace your wisdom teeth with?
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It's a good question. I don't really know how much space I have to put stuff in there, but I Think so.
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Then you have to do marshmallows because.
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Yeah, I do.
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Like on the table.
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I like that. You got to go with foam fitting.
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That idea. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Well, they can. And they're malleable. Like, obviously you can swap them out, get new ones. It's just. I think it's the easiest and tastiest way to go.
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Yeah. They would have to be the white marshmallows, the pink ones. I've never, never been a fan of the taste. Oh, yeah, that's. That's my only objection. As long as they're the. The white ones.
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I was thinking that maybe they don't have this in Australia because maybe it is a weird American thing. Do you have jumbo sized marshmallows? I was thinking jumbo sized marshmallows that you would carve down into a tooth shape.
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Yeah, we. Well, the only way that we can get the jumbo marshmallows in Australia is if we go to, like, the American section of the store.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's.
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That's pretty rare.
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I didn't think about that, but I. I should have. I should have put that into the equation that it might be in. You might have to go to the foreign food aisle.
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Yeah.
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Of Australia. Of Australian grocery store. But, Kelsey, it's been really fun to talk to you and get to know you a little bit tonight. And I wanted. Thank you for being here.
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Thanks for having me.
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Good night, everyone. If you want to come on the show to talk about anything that's on your mind, email us or send a voice memo to the nightlyatch Co. And I'd like to take a moment to say goodnight to Poppy, my mom's sweet little dog. Sweet little rescue dog that she had brought all the way from Florida where it was living on the streets. But now she has a sweet home with my mom. So good night to mom and Poppy and good night to all of you.
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Sam sa. Sa. Foreign.
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The Nightly – "Wisdom Teeth Wisdom" w/ Matt Young
Date: July 23, 2026
Host: Matt Young (guest hosting)
Primary Caller: Kelsey from Brisbane, Australia
This episode delves into the quirky, relatable aftermath of wisdom teeth removal, sparked by a late-night question from Kelsey, a singing teacher recovering from the procedure. Filling in as host, comedian Matt Young (of "Hello from the Magic Tavern") guides a playful yet thoughtful exploration of post-surgery life, sibling bonds, and the unexpected connections between dental changes and vocal performance. Along the way, the discussion meanders through musical influences, Australia’s country music roots, band adventures, and concert bucket lists.
"You should replace your wisdom teeth with giant sized, jumbo sized marshmallows carved into the shape of your wisdom teeth. Beautiful, but still really big." (03:12) Kelsey quips: "Like the cyanide capsules, but delicious." (03:50) Matt:
"It's like a dessert cyanide capsule." (03:54)
"I had to ask my brother. When there was juice in my mouth, I literally couldn't feel if there was anything in there. For 12 hours, he was watching me and guiding me through when to swallow, which was quite an experience." (05:22)
"Wonderful bonding experience." (06:04)
Impact on Work (07:20-07:53):
Kelsey, a singing teacher, worries about how the new “space” in her mouth might affect her technique and vocal resonance.
"I've been very curious to see whether that might have an effect on, you know, like the resonance in my mouth...maybe change the shape of my vocal tract." (07:23)
Genres and Roots (08:10-10:47):
"I mostly teach, like, pop rock kind of stuff...but as an adult, I tend to do a bit more pop rocky stuff." (08:30)
"Country music? Shockingly...extremely popular in Australia." (09:07)
"One of the tables was the cast of the Elvis movie...We just kind of gave them the microphone all singing along. And someone came over and went, did you know that's Austin Butler?" (11:54-12:06)
"Now he's a household name, obviously." (12:20)
"The only time we've done a week-long tour was in January of 2020...and lockdown obviously came." (12:33)
Teaching Setup (14:08):
Bucket List Concerts (15:04-16:42):
Kelsey’s dream act: K.Flay—an American singer/songwriter/producer:
"She really writes with her heart...bops that are really wonderful for the mentally ill...She just is so a part of the music." (15:29-16:21)
Matt gets musical homework to check out both K.Flay and Norwegian singer Aurora.
"I'm curious to see what it does...maybe I'll have a supercharged voice." (17:13)
"I've heard that people, when they get their tonsils out, sometimes end up with a much bigger, you know, resonating chamber." (17:49)
"They would have to be the white marshmallows, the pink ones. I've never been a fan of the taste." (18:40)
"Well, the only way that we can get the jumbo marshmallows in Australia is if we go to, like, the American section of the store." (19:05)
On brothers and recovery:
"For 12 hours, he was watching me and guiding me through when to swallow, which was quite an experience." – Kelsey (05:22)
On wisdom teeth as a singing teacher:
"I'm curious to see whether that might have an effect on, you know, like the resonance in my mouth." – Kelsey (07:23)
On surprise celebrity encounters:
"We brought out the third mic and...one of the table was the cast of the Elvis movie...someone came over and went, did you know that's Austin Butler? And I went, I don't know who that is." – Kelsey (11:54-12:06)
On future possibilities:
"Maybe I'll have a supercharged voice now." – Kelsey (17:13)
On American jumbo marshmallows in Australia:
"Well, the only way that we can get the jumbo marshmallows in Australia is if we go to, like, the American section of the store." – Kelsey (19:05)
The conversation is light-hearted, playful, comedic, and inquisitive—anchored in Matt’s improvisational style and Kelsey’s good-natured storytelling. Listeners are treated to personal anecdotes, genuine curiosity, and a few zany digressions, all tied together by the universal oddity of having a bit more mouth space than expected.
This episode of "The Nightly" turns wisdom teeth recovery into an avenue for laughter, self-reflection, and unexpected musical connections, leaving listeners with a smile—and maybe some new songs to check out, or a marshmallow craving.