
On this episode of The Nikki & Brie Show, the twins are diving deep what it truly means to be “that girl” and why it has nothing to do with age, status, or what kind of car you drive. Nikki and Brie reflect on how the definition of confidence, success, and self-love has evolved from their 20s to now, and how living with intention is what really makes you that girl. From morning rituals and red carpet glow-ups to motherhood, mental health, boundaries, and rediscovering joy, they break down what it means to build your best self—not just look the part. With thoughtful fan questions, personal stories, and a round of Blind Rankings that take the twins way back to their best and somewhat chaotic red carpet looks, this episode is all about letting go of the pressure to have it all figured out and instead, owning exactly where you are. Because nobody’s born that girl—you build her. Press play for a convo that's truly empowering!
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Nicole
Good morning everyone. Good morning, Brianna.
Briana
Good morning, Nicole.
Nicole
Did you like how I called you by your name?
Briana
I know. Am I in trouble?
Nicole
No. But everyone, welcome back to the Nikki and Briana show. Just kidding, Bri Show. You know I love my rebrand. Yeah, I could always hear what's funny is forever. I could always hear mom's voice, but now I always hear Brian's voice. When I hear Brianna, it's like Brian's voice is stuck in my head with that. But so we got a good one for you all today. Today we want to talk about a phrase that we as women hear often and it's been on social media a lot as of late and I thought I knew it correctly and I've had to relearn this phrase.
Briana
But.
Nicole
But it's about being or becoming that girl. And we want to make things clear that becoming that girl has no age limit whatsoever. No, it doesn't. You know, maybe at 25 that girl might be drinking a green juice and doing pilates and at 45, maybe she's booking spa days saying no without explaining herself and rocking matching silk pajamas. You know what, everyone? It's all about how you show up for you. And we're about to dive into to that. Showing up for you, being that girl and everything in between.
Briana
Gosh, who knew I was part of a trend?
Nicole
I know. Well, you know, Bri, I've, I've really. What's crazy is me being, you know, back on WWE and doing things on TV every week. You, you get a lot of people talking, right? So I've been seeing like a lot of like what I've been like. My bell army is just so good to me, but they've been like, nikki's that girl. And I just thought they meant like, you know, like, yeah, that girl. And I've realized it's actually has become a very big social media term as of late. And it's not like it means basically like you're living as the best, most confident, most put together version of yourself. So it's not like you're the most popular girl or it has some status to it. It's about inside and out. It's about energy. And I was like. When I started to dive more into this, this is what I do have to say I love about the social trends nowadays is the younger generation puts a lot of thought into things.
Briana
Yeah, right. Yeah. It's very insightful.
Nicole
There's a lot of meaning, a lot insightful meaning. A lot of feels. It just really digs within. It's not surface at all.
Briana
No.
Nicole
And I've really enjoyed learning more about this. Like I use Google AI, all of it so much. I'm like, okay, so what does this really mean or these acronyms or whatever it might be? I'm like, what are they talking about? So I really have loved of what being that girl has been. And you know, I have a question for you is what does being that girl mean to you now versus what it meant to you? Let's just say in your 20s.
Briana
I mean, I think in my 20s, being that girl kind of I would measure things on success, where I'm at in life, kind of like, am I on the right path? It kind of felt like, you know, in our 20s we have this free pass of being wonderlust and kind of daydreamers and exploring and finding ourselves. But in your 20s, I felt like when you became that girl, it's like, you got the good job, you have the good boyfriend. You're on track with maybe marriage and success. But now that girl is none of those things to me. Like, that girl to me is the girl that lets go of what people think. I live life for myself, for my pure joy and happiness and no one else's. So it's interesting. I mean, it's. Couldn't be more night and day. I don't know. What about you?
Nicole
No, I so agree with you. Because what I've come to realize is definitely being that girl back in our 20s was for sure about status. Was for sure about who you with. Who. Who you're with. Are you married? Do you have kids? What kind of house do you have? It was so more about the tangible things and about the fancy things and luxurious things. The money in your bank. And what I really love.
Briana
Well, and I have to say really quick on just that thought is you didn't have to have it yet, but you were on your way to it, if you know what I mean.
Nicole
Right. So let's just say all of a sudden, because we had some of our friends who were those girls all of a sudden became real estate agents and we're selling incredible homes and we're able to have the BMW at 25 and we're able to get, you know, move from Pink Zone off Garnet Avenue and go shop in the mall. Let's just say Nordstrom's. Yeah, but you know what I mean. They became that girl. I was. It would. It was the ones who got into their careers quickly and showed success, like you said. And what I've realized is we didn't really have the inspiration that everyone has now to be the main character of your own story, as everyone says. We didn't get that energy when we were young. It wasn't about like. No, actually, honey, let me tell you how you're going to own your own story. I mean, we did kind of have sex in the city. And when we'd all kind of talk about Carrie Bradshaw, she really was that, if you think about her character, for sure.
Briana
That's why I was obsessed with her.
Nicole
Right. It was like she kind of.
Briana
She was living life how she wanted.
Nicole
It, how she wanted and didn't care what people thought. She was independent. She was in relationships. She didn't care what people thought. But if you think about it, that was kindly, kind of the only thing that maybe gave us that main character energy. But it wasn't even defined in that way. And so. So now in days when I See, about being that girl, it's more about what's on the inside and things that you do for yourself, not for others. It's actually you're that girl when you show up and you talk about your morning routine. So no, this is what I do in the morning. I wake up at this time to get this workout in. I make my own Americano or maybe I go to my favorite coffee shop because I can. I do this skincare routine to make sure I get this wellness and glow. I put on this nice outfit that I put together. It doesn't have to say Louis Vuitton or Gucci. I put it together, I feel good, I look good now I'm like oozing confidence, which makes me that girl. And now I'm going to go chase my goals right now. I'm going to give that energy and on top of that, have some self respect and boundaries. And then I'm going to go buy myself some flowers and make sure when I come home all my flowers are blooming. That's like to me nowadays, what being that girl is.
Briana
I know, but don't you. I mean, at least I think like this and I feel this. But we, in some weird way, without, not like we didn't know it, but we knew who those girls were. We knew actually the girls who didn't care and like literally live like march to their own drum. And I feel like it's kind of nice that we like found it on our own without like somebody instructing us to. I mean, definitely. Would there have been a couple nice tips and like advice? Yeah, I would have, you know, met, made less mistakes. But like, you know, like, for example, like, do you remember like a moment where you were like, oh, I'm that girl in your 20s, not 30s, not 40s, like in your 20s where you're like, oh, I'm that girl. I don't need to try, I just need to show up.
Nicole
Yeah, well, I do actually. And you. The one thing to add to what you just said was it has given us a lot of grit. And you see that in our generation, we have a lot of grit and grace. And it's because you're right, we, we had to do it on our own. We had to figure it out. But I do it. It would be signing my WDB contract, getting through training, getting on tv, getting a real contract. Then when I finally, eventually moved back to San Diego, I couldn't believe that I got to rent an apartment in a high rise in Little Italy, downtown San Diego. That was like a Bougie spot. I was. Had a lease on a BMW. I was saving good money. I was going out, being able to buy my friends drinks and dinner. And in that moment, I remember feeling like I'm that girl. Like, I've made it. I feel good. I remember when I'd come here all my days in San Diego, which was majority of my life. When I had to do the $2, you call it, I was cocktail waitressing till midnight or 2am and when I came back in that space, I was like, I felt so accomplished. I felt so good. You remember my high rise? Like, I remember walking in that place and I just was like. And it was so tiny. But I was like, I have made it. Like. And then driving my little BMW around, my BMW I had for so long. And for sure, I. And to be able to then take care of your friends and go to nice restaurants and be like, I got it. Like, no stress. Y. Yeah, I remember. I mean, I was. When all that was happening. 26.
Briana
Wow.
Nicole
Felt good.
Briana
Yeah. I mean, mine had to be around the same time, but it's weird because mine's a little different because it's more. When we started filming.
Nicole
Because you were like doing your Carrie moments. No, because you were in New York.
Briana
Well, yeah.
Nicole
Such a sick apartment in like a cool area.
Briana
I mean, for sure. But I think more is when we were filming the reality shows and when they hit really big, it was almost like, wow, we can be authentically us. And people love that. They loved seeing like, you're imperfect sides. They like the flaws. They loved hearing your opinion, even if they didn't agree with it. And I think it was the first time I felt like I could let go and just be me. And I kind of feel like that's being in it, girl. Like, you know that. And then we got to bring it into like a wrestling characters. So. And I just think it was like just me being able to be me and like I was being looked at for that.
Nicole
Well, we are finally individuals, which was so huge.
Briana
Yeah. Because if you're a twin and you know, it's like you get categorized a lot. Like the girls. Like, you know, we're considered one all the things. So. Yeah.
Nicole
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It was like a big moment.
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Nicole
Well, and you know, just speaking on all this, do you feel like. So I have a little quiz for you if you want to take it.
Briana
Oh, goodness.
Nicole
To see if you are really, it's quick. But are you living that. That girl energy loca? No. Well, I mean, yeah, you already live in that. We already know that. I have some cute stories I got to tell you about from our day yesterday that I really want you and buddy to do with us next time. But let's just real quick. I just want to quiz you real quick. And for our listeners. Hip pause. Go get yourself a piece of paper and pen. Come back, hit play. Because just let's see where you're at right now for Are you that girl? Okay, so, Bri, you're going to give your point. You're going to give yourself one point for each. Yes. And just keep track on your hands.
Briana
Okay?
Nicole
Okay. Okay. So morning moves. You have at least one morning ritual that makes you feel grounded. Coffee does count, yeah.
Briana
Yes.
Nicole
Hydration. Halo. You actually drink enough water most days. Wine doesn't count? Sadly, yes. No. Bonita. Bonita girl.
Briana
Okay.
Nicole
Micro glow up. You have at least one look good, feel good habit you do just for you. So it could be skin care, hairstyle, signature scent, for sure.
Briana
Yes.
Nicole
Okay. Main character mindset. You've romanticized something simple in your week, like walking your dog with a cute playlist. For you, it'd be two dogs.
Briana
Yeah, for sure.
Nicole
Okay, well, what is that?
Briana
I mean, mine's always gardening, whether it's planting flowers or.
Nicole
Hi, my name is Brie.
Briana
You know, fruits or veggies. Just grabbing fresh eggs from a chicken coop.
Nicole
Yeah, girl, your aeroblage little scenes going viral on X right now.
Briana
Oh, is it where I say I look like you from? Total divas.
Nicole
Then they're putting our side by sides for me in 2015 with, like, the same dress.
Briana
Yeah. No way. That's hilarious.
Nicole
It's really funny. Boundary. Babe, you said notice someone or something in the last month that drained your energy.
Briana
Yeah, for sure.
Nicole
Oh, can you tell?
Briana
I mean, I keep your fingers up, too, so.
Nicole
I know.
Briana
Yeah, I feel like I. I definitely like there's things sometimes.
Nicole
Is there anything you could tell us? If not, it's a little personal. Okay, then that's fine.
Briana
But definitely, like. And usually I tell my personal stuff, but I'm gonna keep this one within. But there was something Where I felt like, you know, like taken advantage of and I usually would like let slide. And then I was like, you know what? Actually no, I just feel like I'm not gonna allow this take up energy.
Nicole
Yeah.
Briana
And so I called it out.
Nicole
Nice. Okay. I love that. Good for you. So that's a point. Wow, you're so far five.
Briana
You got five points, girl. This is what when they say you're.
Nicole
Seeing the test, you know it's taken.
Briana
Me many decades to get here.
Nicole
Yeah, it really has. I'm sure majority of women in their 40s would ace this quiz.
Briana
Yeah.
Nicole
Self respect spending you've invested in yourself. A class, a book, a workout program, even a fresh journal.
Briana
For sure.
Nicole
Or a new wedding ring. Come back queen. You've bounced back from a bad day without letting it derail your whole week.
Briana
Actually.
Nicole
Yeah.
Briana
Yep.
Nicole
Oh, okay. Can we know this or is that personal too? Does that involve the boundary?
Briana
So like as a. So everyone will have a different hard day. Right. Mine, I'm a mom to a wild five year old who has big feelings. So I feel like there's times where I could allow the big feelings to start my day off a certain way depending how his day starts. But I have been so great. And this is thank you to the good inside by I think her name is Dr. Rebecca. I need to look anyways. It's been incredible her app. But I've been able to not fall into it. Not let stress me out, not let it ruin my day. Instead I've had enough energy to figure out how I can turn his day and without it affecting mine. And you know, and I think like before as a parent I could. I sometimes fell into like being really tired. Like what's the easy solution? I think because we constantly will joke how we have mom brain or we feel like so blurred at times even though I don't feel it anymore. But that like we just didn't take the time to think of the correct decision. So anyways, that's been like a big one. Especially in the summer. Like I been around the kids 24 7, so it's been a lot of us time. A lot. Finally Brian and I went on a date night last night. Our first date night.
Nicole
I know I interrupted it.
Briana
Yeah. But that's okay for a sec. But it was amazing. Oh actually we've had two. I like so we went to the Lumineers.
Nicole
But yeah, I love it.
Briana
Okay, I'm acing this.
Nicole
You're acing. You're seven for seven. Last question. Future focused. You know what you're working toward right now, big or small, and you're taking steps toward it. I mean, hi, my name is Bri.
Briana
You know, girl.
Nicole
Oh, right. So you scored seven to eight points. You got eight points. You aced, so it's babe, you are that girl. Teach us your ways. Now for everyone who did an ace, look, if you're four to six points, you're in your that girl rising era. Hey, that's a good place to be. You just need a few tweaks and you will be unstoppable. And look, if you're at 0 to 3 points, do not let that let you down because that means you are still in your pilot episode. Hey, we all love pilot episodes. Pilot episodes have brought in Emmys and Oscars. They are award winning. So get that glow up plot twist because you know it's coming.
Briana
Oh, sure, I like that.
Nicole
You know, that's great. You know, those kind of things just, they make you feel good, but they also like start to make you think like weekly, weekly thoughts. It's like almost something I. I want to start to quiz myself weekly and just. You know what I mean, See where.
Briana
I'm at because you obviously did the quiz before me, which is why you wanted to give me the quiz. Did you ace it?
Nicole
I aced debris.
Briana
Yeah. And I feel like that's where you're at in your life. And I can't imagine. I mean, maybe you're going to go backwards. Doubt it. But I feel like you're here. You're like here. And there's no going backwards. Like, I don't think you need to quiz yourself every week.
Nicole
Oh, no. And I really don't so much of glow up energy. You know, sometimes people think immediately they'll think cosmetic surgery. They think, they just, they think of the vanity. So much vanity. And it's. It's so not true for people to have real glow ups. Usually there's a change in someone's life for me, divorce. Then there's self care. I've been on it with self care. Not only physically, as far as like facials, own health. Let me tell you guys, NADS plus. When everyone's trying to say peptides are all this stuff. I mean, no, I've been taking NADS plus. Thank you, Hone health for that. NADS plus is the real deal. I definitely am seeing the changes with NADs plus and not just on my skin energy. All the things. And my favorite with hone is I like injecting it. It's going straight in the bloodstream. Make sure to talk to a doctor about that. But I don't want to get in trouble. But they have doctors. That's been amazing. Then I do therapy. So now I'm working on my mental health. And let me tell you, mental health, it's a glow up.
Briana
Right?
Nicole
I started. I got a new hairdo. I changed the color of my hair. I made it longer. It makes me feel good, makes me feel confident. That's part of my glow up. I'm. I got a personal trainer. I've been getting in better shape. I'm showing off a little bit more because I'm feeling better about myself. So it's so funny when people go straight to the quick fixes when it's like, no. Somehow majority of the time, it's because someone's had all these changes in their life for the better, and now we're seeing it, and that's a glow up.
Briana
Yeah. Well, you know what's crazy is I ran into someone yesterday I hadn't seen in a while, and they looked incredible healthy. Like, you know, when you just look at someone, you're like, they're healthy. Like, they're glowing healthy.
Nicole
They're glowing.
Briana
You could just tell, like, they just got done working.
Nicole
They're having, like, your nutrients. Yeah.
Briana
And you could tell they're just high on life, feeling good. And it was incredible because they're like, yeah. And you know what? I decided next year, I'm gonna move to Spain for a year. Do, like, up, like, they're studying and, like, add some stuff to their, like, degree type of thing. But I'm like, that's what happens when you feel good. Like, you want to conquer.
Nicole
You want to.
Briana
I was, like, shocked. I'm like, oh, my gosh. And she was like, I know. Can you believe it? And she's like, but I can't. I'm so excited to. To do this step. And I'm like, I love that. But that's what happens when you feel good. You can take on anything.
Nicole
You feel good. You can. And brain health, there's something else, you know, that's so important to constantly be teaching your brain things, even, you know, it's hard when we all are tired. But like I told myself, and I know you're the same. After this run with wwe, where I'm traveling every week, I. I'm like, you know what? I really just want to start to take courses on knowing the wine industry even better. As far as I. I know we know the basics and even a little bit more than that. But I Want to know the exact terms? I. I want to know just the depth of wine making, wine growing, the industry, the business, the agriculture. I. I want.
Briana
I told you to come to college with me.
Nicole
I. Well, you and I both want to do that. But then life started happening. It's. We still have young kids.
Briana
We have young kids.
Nicole
It's tough.
Briana
Finally, Betty being in full days of school helped me, you know, like, get in the gym more, right?
Nicole
And I'm doing my other passion right now, like, to be able to wrestle. And that's really helped me of where I'm at in life, of this glow up, like, giving me my confidence back and just, you know, feeling like that girl for real, it's done. And I'm having fun. And I think that's what people are seeing too. They don't realize I haven't had fun in years. Like, I wasn't laughing this hard, wasn't having this much fun. And the fun's coming back in my life, and you feel it and you see it for sure. And fun is so important to have in life. Sabri. You know, as we're talking career and just life. A fan, one fan question. We have a few fan questions that we'll be doing through this episode, but one was advice for young women trying to balance a demanding career with other aspects of life from Sam.
Briana
I mean, this is how I look at it. We got to pay the bills, right? So we. We need jobs, we got to work. And so I think sometimes, you know, we do get stuck in careers where we do look at it like, this is me paying the bills, like, surviving, but it might not be the dream. So I always recommend, like, this is going to be that one time in your life where you're going to feel like you're overworking. You're gonna feel like maybe you're running a little on empty because you want to find the time to also do your passion, whatever that may be. And it might be hobbies for now, but it could end up being a career later on. So, you know, a lot of times people work Monday through Friday that 8 to 5. So if it's like pottery class you want to do, I know there's this, like, one class I really want to do, but the time it starts is 7pm but that could be perfect for someone who works a desk job if you want to learn how to make pottery. Maybe you want to be a gardener. Well, you have the weekends to get in there and, like, get dirty. Or maybe it's like, I don't know, people Want to do all sorts of fun things, whether it's theater, all the things. And away from the arts, it could be something else, like a scientist. I have no idea. But whatever it is, that little time you have away from your career, make sure you get your hobbies in and your passions, because you never know what blossoms from that.
Nicole
Right. And I also feel with that, it kind of is. What we talked about on last week's episode is make it seasonal. So your hobbies, if your career is demanding and you have all these things that you want to do, it's like, okay, how can I get in? My passions, my hobbies, my career's demanding. And, you know, look at your career is. If that is your future and that's somewhere that you can build to where you want to go, stick with that. But go. This season, I'm going to do pottery class, because I've always wanted to learn pottery. And then when winter comes, I'm going to take this on. I've always wanted to do this Pilates class or this fun dance class or whatever it might be. And maybe that, like, that would be my advice now for the younger generation, is do it in seasons. See what you like. What season sticks. We don't try to do it all at once. That. That was totally my personality, for sure. But you'll just wear yourself out. And, you know, when it comes, like, being sociable and maybe just have that one day a week, we pick a fun dinner spot so then you're not draining yourself. And then that one night is so special.
Briana
Well, and like, I always wanted to be a florist. I always wanted to own my own flower shop. And then we did the floor retreat, which I loved. But what I realized is being with flowers is for sure my pastime. But to run a flower shop, I don't know if I have the mental capacity to do it. It was fun on that retreat to see the numbers broken down, how people have to run their shops. And so it's fun, like, look and see if there's, like, little retreats or little, like, fun things to go do and try to see if it's something like you really someday want to take serious.
Nicole
Yeah. No, I love that.
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And another question. And I like this because, you know, we touched on, you know, being in our 20s and, like, you know, where we are at with that. Um, from Brian, he asked, what would you tell your younger self in college?
Briana
You know, I feel like I would say, now I'm a dropout, but I'm a dropout for a reason. I think I should have taken a gap year. I know people, like, some people will really, like, love taking a gap year. Some people, I think, kind of feel like, I don't know, like, you got to go with the momentum of, like, graduating from high school, going into college, and a lot, I guess, depends too, on scholarships. But for me, I think gap years are really actually important. I feel like it gives you that year to kind of, like, adjust. Be like, okay, like, what direction do I want to go to? Because maybe if I had that year, I would actually, like, would have done college instead. I felt overwhelmed. I'm trying to work, I'm trying to go to school, partying, the whole thing. That's why I dropped out. So I think I just would have told myself, take a year off work. You know, like, work, save some money and then figure it out from there. And then I probably would. I'm probably would have a degree.
Nicole
Yeah, no, it's true. I definitely, for me, I. I would have told my younger self in college, let's just have a routine here. We could put partying in this routine. We can put some other things in this routine. But I'm like you. I wish I had more of a routine towards my future or just in life. Like, I wish. Okay, I'm going to take this workout class once a week, and then these are the nights of my shifts at Hooters. And then only book classes for college that are these time slots. And if they're not in that time slot, then you're going to find another class to take. And I probably would like you have gotten to a degree. But I wish I just had more of that routine. I had that calendar book. You know, the one thing is, when I saw Seamus in the halls last week at Monday Night Raw, or two weeks ago at Monday Night Raw in Brooklyn, it was cute because he goes, you know, I'll never forget when I got to FCW and I was over at you and your sister's apartment. And he goes, and you two were doing your vision boards of, like, what you want out of the future. And I remember leaving there going, wow, these girls, like, really have it. Like, they are driven. Like, he said the most complimentary stuff about us. And he goes, like, I just knew you had it. And I understand, like, why where you two are at today, like, we were so young and you two just knew what you wanted. And he goes, I was just so impressed. And I always think about that. We do love our vision. You guys were putting these, like, things together, like these goals. And I go, vision boards. And he goes, yeah. And isn't that funny, though?
Briana
That is.
Nicole
I'm like, wow.
Briana
We've always.
Nicole
So. We might not have had it in college, but we definitely got it right. In our early 20s. We have been always into vision boards. I mean, I feel like that we made our first ones either at 18 or 19. I just wish I put a routine with that vision board.
Briana
Well, you know what? Yeah. I mean, I could only imagine what I did at 18. I actually wish I'd go back and see, but I felt like I had a lot of quotes. But I. But the one thing I've always admired about you and I is we're not embarrassed about our vision boards. I'm like, yeah, look at this. Is What I want in life, like, manifest for me.
Nicole
Yeah, exactly. Put it. Can you put the energy out there for me, please? But, like, why should we be embarrassed of our vision boards when that's what.
Briana
We want to become, right?
Nicole
You know what I mean?
Briana
I 100 shoot for the stars.
Nicole
Do not let your shyness or that, you know, that side of you, like, not want to shoot for the stars because you're embarrassed of it. Go shoot for them because you'll get them. Have you ever though, like, And I don't know if it was then or if it's now, but have you ever not felt like you were that girl? And if so, like, what pulled you out of that space?
Briana
I mean, motherhood was hard for me to adjust to, not because of anything with, you know, my child. I was trying to figure out my own identity, where I belong. Like, who's the Bree? Like, is it the old breeze out? There's a new Brie in? How do I blend? Like, what do I do? I was trying to figure out how to keep up. And, like, I never took a minute to be like, what do you need, Bri? Or, how do you want this to look? Or, what will make you happy? I was. I was just trying to please everyone at the time, and I let myself really sink, and I just think I was like, I was on no fuel. I could, like, there. It was just a lot. So that period of time and a lot of it all meant was my, like, 33 to 40, like, was really tough, like, because then it was, like, you know, the minute I thought I figured myself out that I'm pregnant again and a pandemic, and that so just was like. So I felt like that was definitely a period of time where I know I wasn't that girl at all. Like, for sure not.
Nicole
Yeah.
Briana
But I got out of it, and then I figured out who that totally. What about you?
Nicole
Oh, yeah. Oh, she sure did. You know, I think I would be the same. It was definitely the pandemic for me. Like, even early in pregnancy, I was working out with my trainer. I felt good. I felt cute. You know, I had some of the pregnancy things, but I felt great overall. It was fun to plan outfits. And then when all that hit and everything was so new. Right. So everything was closed down. There was no working around everything, and I had no help. And then it was like Arizona Heat, and I just felt like I fully lost myself, and I just lost being that girl in my life and my story, and that was tough. And then what happens is, you know, two Years go by and then you're trying to get yourself back together, and then there are other things in your life that are making you unhappy. And it was just so hard to pull myself out of that space. So I definitely feel like, you know what I mean, from 2020 to 2024, I was just not that girl. And I would try to, like, figure it out with, like, little quick fixes on what would make me happy. Is it getting a bob? You know what I mean? Like, your bob looked so good.
Briana
I went through the worst, honestly.
Nicole
You did. You did. My job. I will probably bring back when I'm older. I think it's that chic, cool haircut. Levy. My long.
Briana
I went through so many bad haircuts in my 30s. Holy.
Nicole
You did. I felt bad because right when you'd come back from bad haircut, you would go to someone and then you get another bad haircut. I'm like, oh, my gosh. You just grew it out and just.
Briana
Kind of would try someone new. Just. And I would explain to them how I got a bad haircut and then they would botch my hair. And I'm like, what though?
Nicole
Yeah.
Briana
I just remember thinking, like, I gotta go back to my long ass hair, because that's the only thing that made me feel good. But I mean, but there was a lot of stuff I was just trying to figure out. And this is what I'll give, like, parents credit is in the middle of us surviving. You know, we. We go with a lot. Because you're just so selfless at the time because, you know, your kids are like, first. But, like, we're tired. Like, you're so incredibly tired. You're putting other people's needs first who are half the time telling you off or not listening. And then, like, you know what I mean? And then you're just, like, at the end of the day, like, you're like, should I really feel guilty to eat this little bit of ice cream or have this glass of wine? But you're like, gosh, I need to still lose 10 pounds of baby weight. And I just want to decompress for a moment. You know, like, parents go through it. Holy moly. But that's why we get Mother's Day and Father's Day.
Nicole
Yeah. And the greatest thing about it is we get a bounce back and we get to have a comeback story. And the one thing that those years taught me was the importance of self care. Because that's the one thing we let go of when we become parents. And honestly, in a way, rightfully so yeah, we just brought life into the world and we're trying to figure it out and, and, but you know, you don't want it to go by too long because then you need to then take care of you. And that's the one thing is I let go of self care and you just see it, you see it on you. So. But it's, it's a, it's just a hard. That's the hardest balance to figure out is new parents self care. Especially if you're someone who doesn't have help. That's like where it's tough, you know. When I look at the people who have a lot of help, I'm like damn lucky. And help and help that you trust, like grandparents and different things like that. You know what I mean? I hope you don't pay someone who's for sure. Yeah, exactly. That's what I mean. Like ones where you're like, okay, they will, you know, they will level my child like I will and take care of my child like me. That they like the beauty of like grandparents. So another question for you, Bri. Do you think you're still surprising yourself, like even at this age and being in this era?
Briana
100%, I feel like I surprise myself a lot. And I just think it's. We're constantly evolving. You know, you don't just do that when you're younger, you're doing it as you age. And so I feel like I'm blown away that sometimes the things that I'm capable of or I'm learning and then all of a sudden things I will one day be like. Well, I kind of feel like I'm an expert in this. So yeah, I'm always surprising myself. What about you?
Nicole
I love that definitely. And especially for me, it would be like boundaries and saying no to things or just, just kind of getting out of that people pleasing era of myself and just being more stern with my boundaries and also knowing my worth and not settling.
Briana
Well, I really love that, Nicole, because I feel like you've come a long way with your boundaries and I feel like.
Nicole
Thank you.
Briana
Just seeing you as of late, you're in a really special place in your life. Like one where, yeah, you are like, you have a lot of strength. Yeah, I guess you are that girl because you know what you want and you're not gonna let anyone like interfere with like, I guess, you know, the things that you love that you're working towards and where you're at and so, and your space has become so sacred and you're protective of that. And so it's been. It's really neat and it's really cute, too, because you and Mato like you guys to have, like, your own little world. And we do. It's really beautiful.
Nicole
Oh, gosh. You should be proud.
Briana
And you're only gonna keep going up.
Nicole
Yeah, that's right, girl. When you get into this space and I've worked so hard to get here, you. You do. You protect that energy. You protect that space. And when you see life a certain way, you only go up from there. Because I look at things. Let's just say I might not like my creative or bonita. Bonita cells might be rough today, or Birdie B didn't break this deal, but the energy still stays good in my space. I look at it. I have such a perspective now of, why did that happen? That's for a reason. And I just. I look at all open doors, and I don't look at closed doors and love it. I get something. I'm like, you know, I'm going to make this fun. I'm going to have great energy, because I'm just grateful that I got to live another day, that I feel good, that I have an amazing son. I own my home. Like, I'm just. I. My eyes. I see things very differently. And it's. It takes work to get to this place. And then once you do, you're like, I'm not leaving this place. I am protecting. Staying in this light. Yeah. And it feels great. Bri, one last question before we play a game, and this is from Emma, and I think this is fun before we get into our game, but it's what motivates you guys the most. I feel like we might have the same answer for this.
Briana
Well, family, family, family. Plain and simple. I don't. All I want to do is take care of my family. And that goes from, like, mom to dad to even my brother, but my babies and my husband. You. But that's it.
Nicole
Yeah.
Briana
My cousins. That's it. I just. Anything I do in life, yeah, I'm motivated.
Nicole
We don't. I'll ride in a Lamborghini, but I don't care about owning a Lamborghini. I'd rather do things for my family if I'm able to do that and for us to just enjoy life together. I get motivated for my son. I want my son to have incredible education. I want him to have tools that I didn't get to have growing up. So that motivates me to keep hustling, to work hard to save to build this life that I know no one can take. I'm motive but motivated. So much family and faith that's like it. And I have to say, and you know I'm authentic in saying this and I know you feel the same. But the Bella army, my fandom, the people like what motivates me is to keep a platform that I could reach to people for good because there's bad in this world. But people need to have motivation, inspiration of things that are good and how we could overcome things because life isn't perfect. So how can we do this? And I really care about that. Like that motivates me a lot to stay where I'm at so I can continue to help others because I love it. If I'm not hustling and I don't keep these platforms, I can't help people in the way that I want to. Worldwide for sure.
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Couldn't agree more. Well, I love that. I love all of that.
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Girl Summer are but I'm very excited to play a game, especially this one because I feel like it really does go with the theme of everything we're talking about. But this game is called Blind Rankings Red Carpet Edition. Before we get into some inspiration and affirmation, we are going to play blind rankings. And this is Nicole. Our producers have pulled some of our most iconic, chaotic, maybe even questionable red carpet looks over the years. We'll rank them from 1 to 10. But we have to place each look as it comes up without knowing what's coming next. So let's get started. You know. You know how to do these blank?
Nicole
Yeah, you. Is it the one? Are we ranking one through five? Oh, no.
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Briana
Yeah. Here we go, girl. Oh, no. Okay. These might not be it girl moments. Oh, boy.
Nicole
I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I remember feeling like JLO that night. I mean, for me, I'm gonna rank it at 5.
Briana
I'll do 5, too. The Bangs definitely are a 10, but we'll go 5 because my butt looks good in that. What bracelet am I wearing? Geez.
Nicole
Oh, my gosh. We can't diss ourselves, though. But okay.
Briana
Oh, my gosh. This is what MTV Movie Movie Awards.
Nicole
Yeah. Remember, this was. I mean, our boys. Were they one or two?
Briana
Yeah. They were young.
Nicole
This was our first appearance since the babies. Since the pandemic. I think, Bri, I think you're right. Yeah.
Briana
Oh, my God.
Nicole
I remember that. I know. This was right before I made. I did a bob.
Briana
Oh, yes.
Nicole
Yeah.
Briana
Girl crazy.
Nicole
Yeah.
Briana
All right, so we're gonna four. Four.
Nicole
Okay. Oh, shoot. I see. I feel like we should have put that one.
Briana
I know.
Nicole
I really liked this. I really felt myself. Okay, so this was at Queen of the Ring premiere in la.
Briana
Yeah.
Nicole
I remember really feeling myself this night. I was happy with my hair. I was.
Briana
More natural look.
Nicole
Yeah. More natural makeup. I really love that dress. You know me. Red vinyl is like. Like, so hot. So I would put this at a three.
Briana
Yeah, let's put this at a three.
Nicole
Three, right? Yeah, shoot. I'm thinking we should have put stuff down a bit.
Briana
We should.
Nicole
That's okay.
Briana
You're the one who threw that one out of five. That gold.
Nicole
I know. We should.
Briana
I would have put that at seven, but.
Nicole
Should we change it?
Briana
We can't. That's part of the game.
Nicole
Okay.
Briana
We effed ourselves earlier. Oh, my gosh.
Nicole
Okay. No, let's be nice to ourselves real quick. Those dresses were amazing on us.
Briana
Well, wait, where was this?
Nicole
And the red roses. We're being mean. Okay, so, you guys, we're in red Latina dresses. We have red roses in our hair. I held on to this so long because. Yeah, we're. I could see the G4 in the background and all that. I loved this dress. This dress was the emoji icon. Like, I remember feeling like Shakira. I loved it.
Briana
I don't know. I'm not.
Nicole
You aren't?
Briana
No. I'm gonna say this is an eight.
Nicole
Whatever. Oh, and I have my fake Louis Vuitton purse. That was my first Louis and I have your purse.
Briana
I wish. My shoulders need to be back.
Nicole
Oh, another fake Louis.
Briana
Both.
Nicole
They were both from Canal Street, I think, in New York City.
Briana
That's hilarious.
Nicole
Okay, this is the thing. We will put it at four. Only because of the fake Louis.
Briana
Four.
Nicole
But I really like.
Briana
This is going at number eight.
Nicole
I mean, I mean, I'm sorry. No, I was thinking six.
Briana
Now it's not.
Nicole
We look so adorable here.
Briana
Seven. I'll give you seven. And that's it. Perfect. It's seven. Okay, okay, next.
Nicole
Okay, fine. Oh, please let us put this at 8. Why did I do this? Look. You look so hot here. That was the worst outfit.
Briana
I love this.
Nicole
I regret that outfit. And the hair clips. Really?
Briana
Well, I think you look so cute. The hair clips could.
Nicole
Okay, so you guys were. This is the Nickelodeon Choice Awards. This was like during, right after like AGT Extreme era. And I was thinking because it was the Kids Choice Awards, like, look a little kiddish, but why did I want to look like that? I'm a grown ass woman and I.
Briana
Just actually think you look really cute.
Nicole
Why did I choose this? Oh, really?
Briana
Better? Yeah, better than Latina. Like, this was identical.
Nicole
This was one of my, like not favorite looks. But you, I remember thinking like, you looked so hot. So this is like a. Okay.
Briana
Well, because of you, this is going at number eight.
Nicole
Yeah. Thank you. Gosh. Thank you. Oh, I love this. This is really cute. So this was when we were doing Media Day for Total Divas in New York. It was Total Divas for Total Bellas at Extra.
Briana
Right.
Nicole
I remember both of us just had sex in the city moments. Here I was obsessed with my high heels. Here I still have them. I love them. I remember loving my earrings. I just loved this whole look. My glam and my hair matched. It was. Everything was perfect. I. I really loved this look.
Briana
I was feeling this.
Nicole
And you look amazing, Bri.
Briana
Yeah. So what do we put this up?
Nicole
So we put this at number four.
Briana
Four or three? We already have a four. Six. Let's put this at six.
Nicole
Okay, perfect. Okay. So this was when we were doing our announcement that we are pregnant for People magazine. I remember we were unhappy with what the stylist pulled for us that day. It was nothing like us. We. And there was like. I even remember the people. People weren't even happy.
Briana
No.
Nicole
So this is going to be very low for me because. Yeah, let's put the lowest 10, which sad because it could have been so cute.
Briana
But. Well, there was dresses we liked on us, but they didn't want us to wear. They wanted us.
Nicole
They wanted, like, something flowy, but then all the flowy dresses looked like that.
Briana
Because you and I are pregnant in this picture. You and I were pregnant. We were like.
Nicole
And just with like, our dark hair, like. Yeah, it just. Just didn't flow. But okay. Yeah. 10. For sure. 10. Oh, I did love this look. Okay. This was when we did the Traders reunion on the Nikki and Bri show when we were at the SiriusXM studios in LA. This was. I mean, this was fun look. We both outfits were so cute. What would you say?
Briana
I agree. Yeah. I mean, I really love this look. This picture is my favorite out of all the ones I took that day. But I actually thought it was a really fun look. It was, like, chic and different and edgy.
Nicole
Mine brought in the trader vibes because I had the cape, you know, the built in hoodie. I remember loving the pairing of the boots. And you know me, your girl loves red. So we put this.
Briana
Should we put this at number two? All right, all right. I know.
Nicole
Oh, I loved this dress. So this was at the upfronts for nbcu.
Briana
Yes.
Nicole
I remember picking this designer. This dress was just incredible. We had that really fun moment on stage. We just moved to New York City afterwards. We painted the town red.
Briana
We had a lot of fun. But I'm gonna say this. It's not number one for me, so we're gonna have to put it at nine.
Nicole
What? Well, I would put this at one, but I wouldn't.
Briana
For me, you would put this. You want to gamble? Because we have two.
Nicole
I think we right left.
Briana
Okay, so we got a gamble.
Nicole
Okay, so if we put this. I'm saying we put this at 1 over 9.
Briana
I know, but I don't care for my outfit.
Nicole
But you're in the gorgeous polka dot. You have those cute YSLs on. My dress alone deserves to be at number one. But if you want to do nine, I think you look great, by the way.
Briana
Well, thank you. Okay, let's do one. Whatever.
Nicole
Okay, let's see. We're blind ranking, so.
Briana
I know. All right, so let's do the last one.
Nicole
Number nine. Yes. I hated so pictures. I am so. So this is Paris. Total Divas. Where we're filming in Paris for Total Divas. And they're like, we're gonna go do a marketing shoot. And they're like. And then we're gonna have glam. So my eyelashes I'm not even joking. She glued them in the middle of my eyes. Remember that Brie on my eyelids?
Briana
Yeah.
Nicole
And I'm like, what? And she goes, they look fine. And I'm like, you're like an inch off my eyelash line. It. I just remember the makeup was terrible. The hair and then the positioning, like, the outfit. Just. Nothing worked here. I'm so happy. This nine. This would be my 10.
Briana
It's just I did like that crystal necklace I. I'm wearing. But, yeah, yeah, this was bad.
Nicole
Which totally, no offense, doesn't go with your outfit. Neither does the shoes. I mean, I look like. And those are years old in this photo.
Briana
You do.
Nicole
I don't know.
Briana
That's hilarious.
Nicole
Yeah. I look like a housewife. I mean, it's just all wrong. This was all wrong. And look at the roses that are, like, randomly put in places.
Briana
Yeah. I'm happy.
Nicole
The only thing that's good in this photo is the Eiffel Tower, but, like, in the clouds. I mean, I don't want to be that mean to ourselves, but.
Briana
Yeah, but still, girl, aren't you happy? I'm very happy. Thank you. That would have. That would have. That could have ruined my day. Just kidding.
Nicole
Good gambler over here. Yeah.
Briana
Oh, that was. Gosh. All right, Nikki, hit us with some inspiration Affirmation.
Nicole
Okay, this is just gonna be real quick. It's gonna be more like an affirmation, but being that girl. No one's born her. You build her. Ooh, boom. That's that.
Briana
I like that.
Nicole
Thank you. So I think that's a great thing to leave off of, is you build your girl. You build your main character in your own story. You don't let things just come to you. You go out and you do it, and you have the potential to do it. So go builder.
Briana
Amen to that.
Nicole
Amen. It's kind of like, you know, the baseball movie. You know, if you build it, they will come or whatever that was, you know?
Briana
Yeah.
Nicole
If you build her, things will come.
Briana
Filled of dreams.
Nicole
Filled of dreams. So let's make it a life of dreams.
Briana
There you go.
Nicole
Right? All right, well, on that note, everyone make sure to check out Bree's YouTube series. Hi, my name is Bri. Make sure to catch me every Monday night on Netflix on Monday night Raw. Also, make sure to like and subscribe share this episode. Thank you guys always for tuning in. We hope you have such an incredible week weekend. Also, check out our videos on our YouTube page, Instagram, TikTok, all the social media things and until next time. Go builder. Bri. I love you. I hopefully will see you soon.
Briana
Love you too. Okay. All right, bye everyone.
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Podcast: The Nikki & Brie Show
Date: August 18, 2025
Theme: How to embody “that girl” energy—at any age and stage—by prioritizing self-care, confidence, boundaries, and personal growth beyond the stereotypes and social media trends.
In this lively episode, Nikki and Brie Garcia delve into what it means to "become that girl," challenging the age-old stereotypes and unpacking the modern meaning of this empowering phrase. Drawing from their personal journeys as moms, entrepreneurs, and public personalities, the sisters explore how “that girl” energy is actually about inner confidence and authenticity, rather than outward status or perfection. Listeners are encouraged to redefine success for themselves, embrace growth at every age, and build routines and boundaries that uplift who they want to be.
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Nikki and Brie keep the atmosphere supportive, candid, and playful. Their dynamic is both vulnerable and hopeful—offering listeners both relatable life lessons and practical encouragement. The message is clear: anyone can be “that girl” by actively showing up for themselves, defining success on their own terms, and nurturing their confidence and wellbeing, no matter their age.
Affirmation:
“Being that girl. No one’s born her. You build her.” – Nicole [57:58]
For listeners:
You don’t have to chase perfection or society’s expectations. Start where you are, build daily habits that honor your inner “main character,” and remember—at every age, you’re still becoming and still surprising yourself.