The Nikki & Brie Show

Episode: Bozoma Saint John: Don’t Ask, Just Do
Date: January 19, 2026
Host: Nikki and Brie Garcia (SiriusXM)
Guest: Bozoma Saint John (Marketing executive, author, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills star)

Episode Overview

In this lively and inspiring episode, Nikki and Brie welcome Bozoma “Boz” Saint John—a trailblazing marketing executive, author, and television personality—onto the show. The conversation dives deep into Boz’s philosophy on living life with intention, balancing motherhood and a high-powered career, her approach to wellness and health, and her experiences on reality TV. The episode’s driving message: Trust yourself, live boldly, and “don’t ask, just do.”

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Introducing Bozoma Saint John [01:06]

• Nikki and Brie set the tone, celebrating Boz as a multifaceted powerhouse in both her personal and professional life.
• Boz expresses gratitude for the energy and accolades:
  “If it is someone who is asking me and they look like they are maybe not trying to give me my full credit, then I’m a lay it all on them, you know what I’m saying?” —Boz (02:20)
• She adapts her self-introduction based on the audience, sometimes giving “the full, like, boom,” or playing it down as “just your girl next door.”

2. Routines, Mindset, and the Importance of Structure [03:06]

• Boz’s daily routine:
  • Sleep: “I must have eight hours of sleep. Like, must. Otherwise I can’t go full throttle the way I need to.” [03:30]
  • Bedtime strictness: Boz is in bed by 9:30, still following the habit since her daughter’s early years.
  • Morning rituals: Wakes at 5:30 for quiet time, prayer, or meditation. Avoids immediate rush to emails/texts.
  • Workout: 6 days a week, 7–8AM.
• Brie relates: “If I don’t get enough sleep, I’m grumpy, I can’t function.” [05:12]
• Nikki highlights the importance of carving out pre-kid solo time each morning.

3. Parenting Through Loss and Building Resilience [05:52]

• Personal story: Boz shares the impact of her husband’s passing when her daughter was 4.
  • “With any sort of death, divorce, like, you know, disruption in the home life, things can really feel like unmanageable… So for me, structure wasn’t just about being a strict parent. It was about adding structure so that she could count on something.” [05:55]
• Shared calendar: Boz empowers her daughter (from age 5 and up) to communicate what’s important, allowing her to influence Boz’s schedule:
  “If you tell me that this thing is really important to you, I will be there. And she could count on that.” [08:35]
• On advice and guidance:
  “A lot of people want to advise you, but they’ve never been in your shoes… It was noise. Out, everybody out. I’m going to have to adjust per the moment and the situation so that I could be the best parent possible.” [08:55]

4. Giving Yourself Permission to Ignore Opinions [12:28]

• On societal expectations and unsolicited advice, especially as a public figure:
  “I am wholeheartedly against that. Whether you’re a public figure or you’re, you know, at home and only know three people… People always want to give you opinions about your life and how you should live it.”
• Boundary-setting:
  “You also have to train the people in your life where your boundaries are, and they should know whether or not their input is necessary.”
• Boz’s personal mantra:
  “Stop asking people… Don’t ask people about your own life and start listening to yourself about your life and you’ll be a much happier person for it, believe me.” [14:44]
• Nikki’s takeaway: “My new mantra is going to be don’t ask.” [15:06]

5. Co-hosting ‘On Brand with Jimmy Fallon’ [16:29]

• About her collaboration:
  “He made it very clear that I legitimized the show given my resume and experience… He was very, very intentional with making sure… he wasn’t just running the show, but also learning about marketing and about competitions.” [16:40]
• Character praise:
  “Jimmy Fallon… is exactly who you think he is. He’s wonderful… The amount of times that he commented on somebody’s work during filming… was really wonderful to see.” [18:53]
• Chemistry on set: The co-hosting dynamic is both authentic and fun—with real reactions on air, such as the now-famous “Munchbox” idea for Dunkin Donuts. [19:32-22:26]
• Boz loves idea generation and the creative energy, paralleling her exec career where everyone brings her ideas.

6. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills: Representation Matters [23:13]

• Boz joined the show to represent women at important life stages—late-30s through 60s:
  “Women who are in their, you know, late 30s, 40s, early 50s, mid-50s, are dealing with a unique set of situations… I joined not because I was like, oh, I want to get on TV and fight with women, but because I was like, no, this is important storytelling.” [23:29]
• Advocates for representing “the corporate girlies who have made their money, who are living fabulous lives because they made it.”
• Emphasizes mutual respect among the cast and acknowledges everyone’s different journeys.

7. Health, Wellness & Hone Health [27:54]

• Motivation:
  “I will be 49… I do care about my health and wellness, but… I’m also that girl who drinks champagne out the bottle with the straw.” [28:11]
• Health priorities include internal wellness, hormone knowledge, and prepping for IVF while navigating perimenopause.
• Importance of personalizing wellness:
  “You might do well with spinach and kale and like, have your green juices and that might be wrecking my system… You have to actually know what works for you.” [31:05]
• Boz and hosts celebrate Hone Health for enabling deeper personal insight and agency, especially valuable for women in their 40s and up.

8. Living with Urgency and Intentionality [34:03]

• Boz’s book, The Urgent Life:
  She wanted to write about the reality that “you can have loss and you can have grief and overwhelming grief, by the way, and still find success.” [34:03]
• Life philosophy via Diane Ackerman’s quote:
  “I don’t want to get to the end of my life and find that I have just lived the length of it. I want to have lived the width of it.” [35:22]
• She challenges listeners to live all-in:
  “I want people to look at my life and see the width at which I’m living so that it doesn’t matter how many years I’m here… Every moment of my life, I want it to feel big.” [35:25]
• Urges: “If you’re doing something that makes you have the Sunday scaries or makes you not want to get up in the morning, girl, Quit. Stop doing that… Don’t wait for anything… Do it right now.” [36:43-37:41]

9. Intentional Parenting & Raising Strong Daughters [40:09]

• Gift-giving evolution: Experiences, not objects. Her daughter plans and pitches birthday trips, gaining real-world skills and facilitating quality time and memories.
  • “My gift to you is going to be a trip every year for your birthday. You pick where you want to go, you give me a good rationale for why you want to go there… you’re going to create the itinerary, and then my job is to execute.” [41:40]
• Boz teaches rigor:
  “I don’t take it easy on her… The ideas come with your best argument. I’m not taking it easy on you.” [43:16]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On boundaries and trusting yourself:
  “Stop asking people… Don’t ask people about your own life and start listening to yourself about your life and you’ll be a much happier person for it, believe me.” —Boz (14:44)

• On navigating loss and motherhood:
  “I went from trying to manage her to managing with her.” —Boz (07:13)

• On living intentionally:
  “I don’t want to get to the end of my life and find that I have just lived the length of it. I want to have lived the width of it.” —Diane Ackerman, quoted by Boz (35:22)

• On living urgently:
  “Don’t wait for anything. You know, if you’re in a bad relationship, get the out. You don’t like your job, girl, quit. You want to expand and, like, try a new hobby, go for it. Don’t wait six months… Do it right now.” —Boz (37:29)

• On wellness and self-knowledge:
  “You don’t know [what works for you] unless you go in and explore it because just Googling ‘healthy diet’ is not going to be good enough.” —Boz (31:05)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:06] – Intro and Boz’s multifaceted career
• [03:30] – Boz’s daily routine and the value of sleep/quiet time
• [05:55] – Parenting after loss, building structure for resilience
• [08:55] – Rejecting unhelpful advice, trusting your intuition
• [12:28] – Giving yourself permission to ignore opinions
• [16:40] – Working with Jimmy Fallon on 'On Brand'
• [23:29] – Importance of women’s stories on RHOBH
• [27:54] – Prioritizing health, hormone knowledge, role of Hone Health
• [34:03] – Boz’s book and her guiding life philosophy
• [40:09] – Empowering her daughter through “gift presentations” & travel

Tone & Style

The conversation is honest, empowering, funny, and deeply personal. Boz exudes confidence and candor, offering practical wisdom while keeping the vibe “happy-hour with your best friends.” Nikki and Brie are warm, engaged, and add their own relatable experiences, making the episode feel both intimate and inspirational.

Final Thoughts

This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking motivation to live with intention, adapt through adversity, and take charge of both personal and professional journeys. Boz leaves listeners with permission to trust themselves, ignore unwanted input, and embrace the fullness (“the width”) of life.

Standout Affirmation:
“I don’t want to get to the end of my life and find that I have just lived the length of it. I want to have lived the width of it.” —[Diane Ackerman, shared by Boz, 35:22]

Boz’s Mantra: Don’t ask—just do.