Holiday Curious Convos

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Nikki & Brie Show – "Holiday Curious Convos"

Date: December 18, 2025
Hosts: Nikki & Brie Garcia
Episode Theme: Holiday Curious Conversations

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Overview

In this festive “Holiday Curious Convos” episode, Nikki and Brie Garcia (formerly Bella Twins) kick back with a glass of wine to dive into quirky, thoughtful, and sometimes hilarious questions about the holiday season. The sisters reflect on holiday nostalgia, messy family dynamics, why Christmas feels so special, viral headlines, and what really makes the season memorable. Sprinkled with heartfelt memories, lighthearted debates, and their signature banter, this episode captures the highs and lows of holiday life—from childhood expectations to mom pressures and the importance of small acts of kindness.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Holiday Vibes and Curious Combos

• Setting the Scene: The sisters open with a toast to their friend Ed’s Labrie wine, setting a cozy, celebratory tone. They announce a special “curious conversations” holiday edition, admitting upfront that Brie’s questions aren’t all holiday-themed (01:33–02:07).
• Curious Questions Concept:
  • These are the deep (or not-so-deep) questions people wonder about the holidays but rarely ask out loud. Nikki promises: “None of this is scientific, which I wish it was, but it’ll be fun, festive, and probably a little wild.” (02:32)

2. The Emotional Pull of Holiday Music

• Core Question: Why do holiday songs feel more emotional than regular songs? (03:00)
  • Brie’s Take: Holiday music is tightly linked to memories, tradition, and the rarity of being played only during the season. She recalls, "It reminds me of when I was a kid and Pop up would do special things for us...laughing with Nana." (03:13)
  • Nikki’s Perspective: The emotional impact runs even deeper—connected to faith and soul. “Sometimes even people who don’t have faith get emotional...it’s like their soul reaching out to them of belief and faith and God.” (04:09)

3. Childhood Holiday Expectations vs. Reality

• 10-Year-Old Self Reflection: Are the holidays what their younger selves expected? (05:33)
  • Nikki: “Yes. Because I didn’t think I’d be doing it as a single mom.” She pictured Home Alone chaos—big family vibes, baking, and full mom immersion. (05:51)
  • Home Alone House Rant: The sisters lament how designers ruined the iconic Home Alone set: “You took down the iconic wallpaper, the colors, the coziness, the hominess of that house…to all of us 90s kids, that is not okay. You made it feel like a mental hospital!” (06:53)

4. Holiday Movie Opinions

• Movie Recap: Nikki and Brie critique the film “Secret Santa”—“Awful. I’m not wasting brain cells… I’m going to bed,” Brie jokes. (07:35)
• Meaningfulness of Christmas Movies: Even when the script lets them down, they note the hidden, impactful messages that holiday films often hold.

5. The Speed of December

• Why Does December Fly By? (08:40)
  • Brie’s Wisdom: “Time goes fast when you’re having fun…Take a step back and be like, ‘Oh, I really love that.’” (09:01)
  • Nikki’s Reflection: Themes and traditions, like ugly sweater parties or family dinner themes, add to the joy and sensation of time flying. (09:42)
  • Memorable Quote: “I’ve realized themes really bring a lot of joy to people.” (09:43)

6. Family Drama & Holiday Nostalgia

• Why do families get dramatic at the holidays? (18:33)
  • Nikki: “People have barely seen each other...there’s a lot of pent up stuff. So they either get a little buzzed or finally find the right moment and just let it go.” (19:26)
  • Brie: Their family avoids major drama by being direct: “We just tell each other off...especially now, send you a text with ten emojis.” (20:38)

7. Communal Eating: What Makes Holiday Meals Special?

• Is there science to food tasting better together? (23:28)
  • Brie: It’s all about love and energy—homemade meals shared among people pouring care into their dishes.
  • Nikki: It’s primal: “Since Adam and Eve days...our body is our temple...the time of eating, it meant something.” Sitting together activates that ancient, communal meaning. (24:40–25:14)

8. Christmas Past: Childhood Memories

• If they could relive one Christmas: Both agree—Christmases spent with Nana and Pop up in Brawley are the cherished ones. “I’d go back to that in a heartbeat.” (27:42)

9. Acting Nicer During the Holidays—Genuine or Temporary?

• Brie: Some of it’s real, some of it’s phony, but energy is contagious: “Acts of kindness start to happen, but it’s contagious…that’s the energy going around.” (28:24)
• Nikki: “Holidays force some deep down feeling; whether this person’s a Grinch, there’s still that magical person deep down.” (29:16)

10. Pressures for the 'Perfect' Holiday

• Nikki: “Why do we expect a perfect holiday even though it never exists?” (32:24)
  • Brie: It’s a “mom thing”—wanting everyone to walk away having had ‘the best time,’ just as movies and traditions suggest. (33:31–34:12)

11. Sister Traditions and Red Flag/Green Flag Holiday Game

• Possible Sister Tradition: They chat about starting a holiday "Sister Sunday" or a festive, active day together—something that sticks even as life gets busier. (36:51–37:09)
• Red Flag/Green Flag Audience Game: Hilarious take on vetting new family significant others at drummer boy dinner. (37:16)
  • Examples:
    • Offers to help clean: “Green flag.” (38:07)
    • Tells kids Santa isn’t real: “Big red flag…he’d be kicked out.” (38:48)
    • Brings only one bottle of non-Bonita Bonita wine for himself: “Red flag.” (39:21)
    • Takes great family photo: “Green, green, green.” (39:49)

12. Inspiration and Affirmation

• Brie’s Quote: "If you only knew how much those little moments with you mattered to me." (41:01)
  • Reminded to give moments to others, especially those alone or grieving: “Just the little things. It goes so far... give time as little or as much as you can to people who are alone this holiday season.” (41:03–41:40)
  • Both advocate for neighborly acts, kids making cookies, writing cards, and opening doors to others in need. (41:55–42:43)
  • Nikki: “It’s not always about your memories and your moments, but you’re going to leave them with other people too. So think about that this holiday season.” (42:50)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “None of this is scientific, which I wish it was, but it'll be fun, festive, and probably a little wild. And you maybe might feel uneducated after this.” – Nikki (02:32)
• “It reminds me of when I was a kid and Pop up would do certain like special things for us.” – Brie (03:53)
• “I think it's faith...it’s like their soul reaching out to them of like belief and faith and God.” – Nikki (04:09)
• “You took down the iconic wallpaper, the colors, the coziness...to all of us 90s kids, that is not okay.” – Brie (06:53)
• “Time goes fast when you're having fun. Boom.” – Brie (09:01)
• “We've had a dramatic childhood. So we've been...You know what it is with our family? We don't hold it in.” – Brie (20:36)
• “Body is my temple. Say it with me. Body is my temple.” – Nikki (26:26)
• “Holidays force some deep down feeling of like, there's still that magical person deep down.” – Nikki (29:16)
• “If you only knew how much those little moments with you mattered to me.” – Brie (41:01)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Introduction & Holiday Wine Toast: 01:05–01:33
• Curious Combos Concept: 02:32
• Holiday Song Emotions: 03:00–05:00
• Childhood Christmas Reflection: 05:33–06:53
• Home Alone House Rant: 06:53–07:14
• Holiday Movie Discussion: 07:35–07:52
• Why December Flies By: 08:40–09:42
• Family Drama Explainer: 18:33–20:38
• Communal Eating Science: 23:28–25:14
• Favorite Childhood Christmas: 27:02–27:42
• Acting Nicer at Holidays: 28:08–29:41
• Perfect Holiday Pressures: 32:24–34:12
• Red Flag/Green Flag Game: 37:16–40:10
• Inspiration & Affirmation: 41:01–42:50

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Overall Tone

Playful, honest, sisterly, and peppered with both deep insights and playful jabs—Nikki and Brie move seamlessly between nostalgia, real-life struggles, tongue-in-cheek scandal, and heartfelt encouragement.

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Conclusion

“Holiday Curious Convos” is a delightful, real-life peek into the Garcia twins’ holiday hearts and homes. Between laughs and longings, they explore why this time of year feels different, sharing both scientific guesses and soulful wisdom. Their message: cherish the small moments, embrace the messiness, and remember that a little kindness goes a long way—holiday season or not.

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Transcript

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[Brie]

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[Brie]

Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Nikki and Burrito. And that's right, we got a little vino. Oh, Cha Ching. Hopefully all around. Cha Chings. That smells good. Yeah, these are. This wine actually, is our friends. They make it out of Oakville Labrie Winery, and it's delicious. Yeah, Ed does an incredible job.

[Nikki]

Incredible job.

[Brie]

So cheers to Ed for making good wine.

[Nikki]

Good wine. Thank you.

[Brie]

But Nikki and I thought we needed a little bit of vino because we are gonna do what you guys all love us doing is our curious questions.

[Nikki]

Curious conversations.

[Brie]

Oh, there you go. I'm sorry, I said it wrong. Curious Combos.

[Nikki]

Combos. The holiday edition.

[Brie]

But my questions I got were not holiday inspired.

[Nikki]

Oh, so you didn't do the assignment correctly.

[Brie]

Shoot. But they're good.

[Nikki]

Well, I understood it. You obviously didn't.

[Brie]

Well, maybe what I'll do is I'll put, like.

[Nikki]

Put a holiday twist to it.

[Brie]

Well, you know, when you do those one questions and don't you add, what do you put at the end? Something. Sex.

[Nikki]

What's like. Yeah.

[Brie]

Or in the bed.

[Nikki]

Yeah, something like that.

[Brie]

So I can say with Santa.

[Nikki]

Wait, there you go.

[Brie]

To make it feel holiday.

[Nikki]

Yeah, there you go. I guess with Santa.

[Brie]

I don't know. Sounds weird, but let's figure it out. All right, so let's figure it out. So.

[Nikki]

So we are asking the questions people think about during the holidays but never actually say out loud and giving the answers we think we know. Of course, none of this is scientific, which I wish it was, but it'll be fun, festive, and probably a little wild. And you maybe might feel uneducated after this.

[Brie]

Or not.

[Nikki]

No, of course we're going to make them feel smart.

[Brie]

Okay, so you start.

[Nikki]

Okay. So, Bri, I'm curious. Why do Holiday songs feel more emotional than regular songs. Why? What is going on in the holiday brain?

[Brie]

I mean this is so one. It's just a season. So we get it only for this one month. Some people do it three months out. I mean people think Halloween at times is like Christmas, but I think we get it for the short period of time and we make such great memories during the holidays that these songs trigger memories, they trigger happy times. Cuz let's be honest, like no matter what, more than ever you see people's like spirits rise, you hear more laughter, the giving part and also brings out some drama. I'm not gonna lie, I've seen a lot of dramatic holiday tables. But overall, because I get a couple tears in my eyes, it reminds me of when I was a kid and Pop up would do certain like special things for us. It reminds me sitting at the table and laughing with Nana. Like I just, I think of some really special things when I hear Christmas songs. So it has to be that, right?

[Nikki]

Well, I actually think it could be even a little deeper. I think it's faith. And I think sometimes even people who don't have faith, but they get emotional in that kind of music don't realize, but it's like their soul reaching out to them of like belief and faith and God and. And I think that's why sometimes it hits different. I think everything you said is 100% right. Because Christmas music, more than regular music can take me back to memory of when we caroled in second grade and I could remember exactly where we were at this jingle bell. I can't do that with other stuff. No, but with Christmas music I can. But I do also think it's the faith that hits us like deep into our core. I think it's like hits us in our soul. And a lot of people, if they don't really have faith, don't even realize it. But it's like their soul. Like we're here.

[Brie]

Yeah. Believe the holiday spirit.

[Nikki]

Parumpa pum pum in my glass.

[Brie]

That's how we really remember, right?

[Nikki]

Hey, they had this. Then Jesus broke bread and he had. I don't know.

[Brie]

Anyways, okay, so I'm gonna make this the ones I wrote down. I can make holiday. So I'm seeing.

[Nikki]

You're so smart.

[Brie]

Yeah. So let's take it back to your 10 year old self at Christmas.

[Nikki]

Oh gosh.

[Brie]

Do you think your 10 year old self would be. Would be surprised how you celebrate Christmas?

[Nikki]

That's a really good question.

[Brie]

You might need a little sip for that.

[Nikki]

You know what? Yes. Because I didn't think I'd be doing it as a single mom.

[Brie]

There you go.

[Nikki]

Yeah. Like, it's.

[Brie]

How do you think? Maybe if you're 10, what did you think, like, Christmas would be like? Like, home Alone.

[Nikki]

Yeah.

[Brie]

Big family.

[Nikki]

Totally home alone. Like, yeah. Four kids running around. I mean, I always wanted three. Like, when you're young and I think it's always however many you have in your family, like, I want three. Yeah. And totally would have thought, like, no.

[Brie]

I didn't want three. I wanted either two or four.

[Nikki]

Okay. So I wanted three. And I totally thought because I loved Home Alone. Like, you nailed it. That's exactly what I thought my holidays growing up would be. I actually didn't think I'd be, like, this cute. Just kidding. But, like, well, no meaning. I think I just. You. I would be in full mom vibes, baking, doing all the things. I think you just nailed it. It would be home. It would be home alone. That's what it would be. And now, you know, can we just.

[Brie]

Shame the interior designers who effed up the Home Alone house?

[Nikki]

I know.

[Brie]

Shame, shame, shame. You took down the iconic wallpaper, the colors, the coziness, the hominess of that house.

[Nikki]

Yeah.

[Brie]

That to all of us 90 90s kids, is not okay.

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[Brie]

And you made it feel like a mental hospital.

[Nikki]

Yeah. Oh, gosh. Well, it doesn't look like.

[Brie]

No, it looks like a bad cell.

[Nikki]

Right. But, yeah, because I had one night. It was the other night, and I was sitting here. I was actually watching, like, the Puff Daddy documentary.

[Brie]

Should have been watching even a Christmas movie.

[Nikki]

I. Well, I watched one and then I was like, oh, that wasn't my fave. But it's the one I told you.

[Brie]

To watch, Secret Santa.

[Nikki]

Yeah.

[Brie]

Awful.

[Nikki]

I know.

[Brie]

And I love her.

[Nikki]

They should have gave her something better. We're all obsessed with her because.

[Brie]

Let AI write the script. I bet you.

[Nikki]

I. But did you watch the whole thing?

[Brie]

No, I couldn't.

[Nikki]

It has an incredible meaning.

[Brie]

No, the meaning.

[Nikki]

But it was a little.

[Brie]

Yeah, I couldn't even watch. I was like, dude, this is. I'm not wasting brain cells or any more time. I'm going to bed.

[Nikki]

So then I wanted. I watch. Was watching the documentary, but I had all my, like, everything lit in the house, and I was sitting on a glass of wine, and I was so emotional because I'm like, I would have never thought.

[Brie]

I know.

[Nikki]

It would be like this. But that's okay.

[Brie]

Yeah, that's okay.

[Nikki]

It is. And it's great.

[Brie]

Yeah. And you just come to my house. You'll feel home alone. You won't actually feel alone. You feel very homey. Quick.

[Nikki]

Yeah, so I had this other question, but I kind of feel like I hit it with.

[Brie]

Oh, you're gonna ask me?

[Nikki]

No, because it was like. I'm curious, why do we all become nostalgic during the holidays? Is it biology, psychology, or just good marketing? But that kind of went in with the.

[Brie]

Dude, that's not even a question you would ask me.

[Nikki]

Ew. Okay, I like this one. So I'm curious, Brie, why does time feel faster in December? Is it actually perception or is it just too many commitments?

[Brie]

No, it's like what we always say. Time goes fast when you're having fun. Boom. Everything you do.

[Nikki]

But this year's felt so fast.

[Brie]

Not really. I feel like it's. It's always. I mean, I even think when I'm at, like, things in the summertime, like, even when I'm with family or go on vacation, things feel like they go fast when you're having fun. That's just that, like, when we're working out and I look at the clock, I'm like, dang, only five minutes have gone by when we're, like, in it. But do you know what I mean? It's like, when you're having fun, time flies. And that's actually a great thing to start to recognize and notice, because that means, like, you're have. You're fully enjoying whatever you're doing, right? So when things feel fast, take a step back and be like, oh, I really. I love that.

[Nikki]

Yeah, I love that. That's why I feel like themes are so important in life. Like, even, like, okay, for our birthday, Disneyland. I loved how. I think it was Shauna, right? Not. I think it was Shauna who brought up, like, you guys, we should have a theme for the Club 33 dinner. And then I don't know who chimed in and said, let's do polka dots. Because, like, let's play off a mini, but let's do polka dots. And it just made it so much more fun of us getting ready. And we all looked at each other like, oh, my God, look at your polka dot off.

[Brie]

And look at your.

[Nikki]

Yeah, I've realized themes really bring a lot of joy to people. Like ugly sweaters, right? Which. That's going to be another curious conversation. Why do we call them ugly sweaters when we're trying to find the cutest ugly sweater?

[Brie]

Are you asking me, like, a double question right now? Well, you know, you Actually, what's crazy is you asked me a question and you answered it.

[Nikki]

Which one?

[Brie]

Oh, no, I guess I answered it too.

[Nikki]

Yeah, you already answered, and then I gave input.

[Brie]

I know. Isn't that crazy? Like, that's how much I forgot. But can I say your theme of 2020?

[Nikki]

I almost got weirdest thing, I was.

[Brie]

Like, but oh, my God, I'm laughing.

[Nikki]

Inside because you cut a promo on me without even realizing. Like, you gave this long old answer.

[Brie]

And then like, okay, theme of 2026 for you is going to be cougar. Right? No, get it, Nikki. Vibe can get really busy.

[Nikki]

Really busy. I mean, I would say it's been busy for all of us.

[Brie]

I know. And sometimes we just need to take a breather, sit down, and ask ourselves one very important question.

[Nikki]

What's that?

[Brie]

Brie. Have you had your Hershey's?

[Nikki]

I sure have had my Hershey's Brie.

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[Nikki]

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[Brie]

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[Nikki]

It sure does. You want to know what one of my favorite moments with Hershey's chocolate is? Tao And I like, I love it because you know me, I'm chocolate lover. But now I have a son who's a chocolate lover. So we slip bars all the time. It's just such a moment for us, a very happy moment. We look at each other. He always ends up getting chocolate all over his face. But it's just such a sweet moment that I find myself always reaching for a Hershey bar.

[Brie]

Always. I mean, we love making s' mores in my family. So every time I bust out a Hershey bar, my kids start screaming with excitement. They know it's about to be s' more time. So for all of you, shop for Hershey's milk chocolate now at a store.

[Nikki]

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[Brie]

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[Nikki]

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[Nikki]

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[Brie]

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[Nikki]

Can I tell you about the headlines your sister has made in the past week?

[Brie]

Oh, gosh. What?

[Nikki]

Okay, well, the first one is, nikki Bella says she doesn't bang her fans.

[Brie]

Well, you cleared that up on the podcast.

[Nikki]

Well, because of whatever I said. I didn't clear it up because of whatever comment I said. It made headlines. And the headline just said, Nick. No, it says, nikki Bella denies having sex with her fans. That was the headline that got brought up in the podcast I did yesterday. Well, you know, I am in a mainstream podcast and it gets brought up, that headline.

[Brie]

No.

[Nikki]

Yes, girl. It is everywhere about the fact that I deny having sex with my fans.

[Brie]

Can I just say something?

[Nikki]

And then I got to tell you, another headline.

[Brie]

Oh, gosh. What?

[Nikki]

Nikki Bellis says she will risk it all for Batman, even panty drop.

[Brie]

Is there not like, other, like, important going on?

[Nikki]

So everyone posting photos of them in Batman outfits. And then Shane Helms re reposted and writes, I will pop huge if people start showing up in Batman outfits to Monday Night Raw. And then other comments have been like, she wonders why people think she's a. I actually had to talk about this on the podcast yesterday. I go, it's so funny because I. I say things a majority of the time. It's just to shock my sister. It's to get reactions from her. But I guess I need to start to be aware that people will take a paragraph or two of what I say to my sister and they'll take two sentences from it. They make it a headline, and everyone.

[Brie]

Just don't ever be aware.

[Nikki]

Well, you're right.

[Brie]

I'M not gonna stop for you. Is a lot of things don't shock me, so you really gotta aim high.

[Nikki]

I have to aim high. Like panty dropping for Batman.

[Brie]

But also, we had a great reason because we were stuck with, like, a lot of ugly princess. So, like. Yeah.

[Nikki]

And they didn't even put that in there.

[Brie]

Yeah.

[Nikki]

No one talked about, like, no one.

[Brie]

No one talked about the ugly princes.

[Nikki]

Yeah. So my thing, though, is. And I told him, I go. It's funny because, like, you'll have this group people, and they're calling me a. And like, all these things. And if they even knew I have been like. And I go, because, like.

[Brie]

Because you're sleeping with Batman. Like, come on.

[Nikki]

Is like, I'd risk it all for Batman when they don't even realize the game is what cartoon character.

[Brie]

And those marks. If Batman knocked at their door, they'd risk it all, too. I know. I see him at the Cosby.

[Nikki]

Wait, let me finish things. So I was like. I had to say, like, I hear.

[Brie]

You'Re talking about Nikki. Is this true?

[Nikki]

I would love Batman to go to all their doors. That would be iconic.

[Brie]

I need.

[Nikki]

Look, I'm crying. I should make my own, like, I should make my own cartoon of that where he's, like, knocking on, like, Twitter trolls, like, doors.

[Brie]

You just need.

[Nikki]

Did you say this about Nikki? And then he just, like, throws his cape away.

[Brie]

Like, walking away goes like this. You. Yeah, actually, you just need to put up, like, a meme of Batman crying every once in a while.

[Nikki]

Well, I was about to, quote, treat it, quote, tweet it and write treating it. Yeah. But real quick, I told him. I go now. This is. I'm sorry if this is TMI on your show. This is why my sister will call me no filter Nikki. But, like, it's crazy because I actually haven't, like, been touched or have done anything in, like, so long. And he was like, oh. And I go, yeah. So it's funny when people call me a. When I actually, like, haven't had intimacy in a really long time, like, even think of kissing.

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Thinking.

[Brie]

And I go, I'm just kidding.

[Nikki]

I haven't even kissed someone in so long. It's, like, kind of crazy. I was thinking of this last night, like, do I still want to kiss, like, you know, when it's been so long?

[Brie]

Yeah, you do.

[Nikki]

Well, I mean, I hope I. I'm about to just make out with my pillow to make sure, like, I still got it.

[Brie]

E. That's so weird. We did that in middle school. Okay.

[Nikki]

Well, I'm back there.

[Brie]

You can kiss. It's natural. Your mouth and brain, it all remembers.

[Nikki]

Okay.

[Brie]

You know, it's like riding a bike.

[Nikki]

Okay, great.

[Brie]

Awesome. My question, which is number two. You think we'd be at three by now? On a scale from one to ten?

[Nikki]

This is a curious question. It's a personal question. It sounds personal, not curious.

[Brie]

On a scale of 1 to 10, how dramatic were you actually being last Christmas? You know? You know the one, you know, are you.

[Nikki]

Wait, I'm feel like I'm being pinpointed.

[Brie]

Honestly, how dramatic were you being one.

[Nikki]

Through ten last Christmas? Dude, I don't even know what I did last Christmas, mate. Open up gifts to a train. I played on a train. I don't even know if I saw you.

[Brie]

I'm just messing with you. But this leads me to my question. I wanted you to think is how dramatic people can actually get when they're around their family.

[Nikki]

It's like, geez, Louise.

[Brie]

It made you think though, that maybe.

[Nikki]

No, what made me think is like you were thinking of yourself and you were trying to pin something on me while I go, wait, what are you trying to pin on me?

[Brie]

Oh my God, your face.

[Nikki]

I was so not dramatic. Well, then I'm like, is she trying to bring up like my situation with Artem or something?

[Brie]

I'm like crying, but okay, so this is my question.

[Nikki]

I was thinking of mom and jj. I was like, wait, she's joking.

[Brie]

You got the wrong sibling. Yeah. So listen, my question, I just had to do that because I like, I love, like, it was funny. But my question is, why does family kind of can get a little cray cray at times when you're sitting down at a nice dinner, we're all supposed to be grateful and somebody gets in. Now, not every family, and some people go five years without something. Then there's another year.

[Nikki]

But there's a little bit of.

[Brie]

No, there's always drama during the holidays.

[Nikki]

So this is why what I think, yeah, majority of families, people are flying in, right? So people have barely seen each other through the year. There's a lot of pent up stuff.

[Brie]

Oh. They want to say to their face.

[Nikki]

So they either get a little buzzed or they finally find the right moment and they just let it go of the year. And then they get a. They go home and they go, you know, I'm going to start this new year off right. Oh, I just let it all go. Because usually everyone are there from Christmas to New Year's, they're taking their week of Like, I'm starting my 20, 26 off, right? So I'm going to tell everyone off of what, how they made me feel this year. Bye. And also, a lot of those people aren't around each other. So then you mix all those personalities and finally around each other, and they just hit a point. Because think of it, a lot of people, they bunk up in homes, they're all around each other too much. They're around each other five to six days, sometimes seven to eight, and then it's like, that's it. That's enough. That's what I.

[Brie]

No, I'm trying to think, like, there was maybe a couple Christmases when we were younger. There was drama. But in our adult years, I don't think we've had a dramatic Christmas, right? No, no. We all just tell each other off when we've had a dramatic.

[Nikki]

We've had a dramatic childhood. So we've been.

[Brie]

You know what it is with our family? We don't hold it in. I'll tell you right then and there. Especially now. Send you a text with ten emojis. Okay, Nikki, so the snow is here, the cold weather, and I think it's time that we start looking to go somewhere a little warm, maybe a little tropical white sand, beautiful beaches. What do you think?

[Nikki]

I agree. My body is not only craving a bikini, but desperately needs some vitamin D.

[Brie]

And maybe a Mai Tai on top of that. I say we go on Airbnb, start to put in all the things that we want out of a location, out of a house, and see where it ends us, where it puts us.

[Nikki]

And you know what, Bri? After all these months, we've all been spending a lot of money, whether it's on gifts, holidays, food, travels. So let's now make some money. It's time we earn that money back. So I don't know if you all know, but you can host your home on Airbnb, which obviously is the smartest way to make a little extra income, right?

[Brie]

Oh, yeah. Or a lot.

[Nikki]

It depends.

[Brie]

I mean, that's right, Nikki. You can put it towards future travel, home improvement, or that fun splurge item you've been eyeing.

[Nikki]

I love that. And, you know, finding a little piece of home while you travel always makes a trip special. Your home could be that for someone else.

[Brie]

Your home might be worth more than you think.

[Nikki]

Find out how [e-mail] host well, Nikki.

[Brie]

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[Nikki]

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[Nikki]

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[Nikki]

Know Bri, when it comes to the drummer boy dinner, sometimes we need, you know, our final touches and we need it fast. Right?

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[Brie]

I mean, we do need some drummer boys.

[Nikki]

Oh, also, do you have some, you know, the paper pretty linens for the bathroom? I always feel like those are things people miss out on. But all of a sudden you're like, I need to get that overnighted.

[Brie]

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[Nikki]

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[Brie]

That's just W-A-Y-F A I R dot com.

[Nikki]

Wayfair. Every style, every home. Yeah.

[Brie]

Right. Okay, your turn.

[Nikki]

Goodness, I have so many good ones. Do you? Well, this kind of plays off though towards yours. So I don't know.

[Brie]

Yeah, we're not going to copy my questions.

[Nikki]

Okay. I'm curious, why do holiday meals taste better when they're shared? Is there science behind communal eating?

[Brie]

A lot of like science, you're asking me?

[Nikki]

Because it's called curious conversations.

[Brie]

Okay. Wow. Well, I mean this is what I've always felt and this is why I feel like when we have homemade meals and when I look at like in the past when, you know, you're not given a recipe, they're just our, we were used to our nanas, nonas, all of them making just by tasting. They didn't go follow instructions. It was. Everything was made with love. So like I feel like, you know, people when they're coming in, it's like a potluck style.

[Nikki]

Yeah.

[Brie]

And you're sharing. People are making like what they feel is their best recipe. But when they're making it, there's just type of love and excitement that goes into it because it's the holidays and how it is and there's this confidence. So it has to be that energy, the energy surrounding by that meal.

[Nikki]

So I might feel like I'm gonna get a little science here with. And I think for.

[Brie]

You're not a scientist no, but I'm.

[Nikki]

Gonna give probably a better answer.

[Brie]

Oh, okay.

[Nikki]

So forever since I would even maybe call it Adam and Eve days. But, like, our body is our temple. And I feel like for so long, the time of eating, like, it meant something when it was time to put something in your body. Yeah.

[Brie]

But definitely not nowadays.

[Nikki]

Let me get there.

[Brie]

Okay.

[Nikki]

So everyone would dress up for each other. They would ev. Whether you were rich or poor. That time to eat. Yeah. It always had meaning.

[Brie]

You.

[Nikki]

You sat down, you made time. It was usually made together. You sat and ate together. And I feel that nowadays, when we have the moments of why it feels so special we're eating together. Like, what is. You know, when I'm asking, like, is there science behind that? The communal eating is because it takes us back to, like, bodies or temple. It's very important of what we put in our body.

[Brie]

Yeah, but holidays is, like, all the worst.

[Nikki]

But it is with some. But then you think of the base of, like, we have turkey and yeah, there's mashed potatoes and sugar. But I guess we've. We've added that over time, which sucks. But I feel like. But when we cook together and sit together, it's because food is such an important part for us, obviously, that I think there's some, like, why does this feel so good? And if we were just to make it of what it was like back then, back then, it would be even more so. But we get these glimpses of how it feels because it's such an important part of life.

[Brie]

Yeah. How you thought that answered triumphed. Mine is crazy.

[Nikki]

Majorly.

[Brie]

She's like, back in the day, I'm like, thought we were talking modern day.

[Nikki]

Okay. But like.

[Brie]

And they actually both were kind of similar, except I didn't say body is.

[Nikki]

My temple, but body is your temple. Say it with me. Body is my toe.

[Brie]

Do you? No. But then you put healthy food in.

[Nikki]

I do that. How am I gonna forget his name? The meditator.

[Brie]

Oh, my love. Deepak. Yeah.

[Nikki]

The song. He has. Body is my temple. No, say it with me. Body is my temple. And you have to, like, keep going and going. All right.

[Brie]

If you could relive one Christmas from our childhood, which one would you choose and why?

[Nikki]

Oh, goodness.

[Brie]

Repeat. So if you could relive one of our Christmases from our child.

[Nikki]

Another personal question. Yeah.

[Brie]

Yeah. Because your science is off, so I'm not asking you anything with science. Which one would you choose and why?

[Nikki]

It would be a drummer boy with Pop up there in Brawley at their house. Probably one of the ones where then. I know we could go like toilet papering. Aftering, after. Yeah. With Nana, like, so it'd be that era, I would say of middle school or high school.

[Brie]

Okay.

[Nikki]

With Nana and Pop Up Brawley when we'd spend two weeks with them.

[Brie]

Yeah.

[Nikki]

It'd be. I'd go back to that in a heartbeat, for sure. So I'm curious. Not personal, just curious.

[Brie]

I'll ask the personal question.

[Nikki]

Yeah, we got science ones. Totally didn't get the assignment. Why do people act nicer during the holidays? Is it real or is it just a temporary social script?

[Brie]

I mean, that sounds like a question.

[Nikki]

Actually. No, I'm curious.

[Brie]

So I definitely think some of it's phony, some of it's real. I think. I think it's just the time of year where everyone softens up. And I think that deeper. They get deeper. And I think.

[Nikki]

No, I mean, like, you get deeper.

[Brie]

Well, this is what I'm saying. They do. I'm like, yes. No, but this is where, like, know when people are like, energy, energy, energy. This is where I believe, like, if you don't believe energy is real. Tis the season to believe it. Because you see, it's like acts of kindness start to happen, but it's contagious and people feel it because that's the energy going around, the giving, the, you know, bringing people in and all of that. So I just think that spreads a.

[Nikki]

Lot more empathy a lot more.

[Brie]

And I think too, like, like you said in the beginning, between the music and you see the decorations, there's a part of you that gets sentimental. And so that opens up a lot of things in you. And I think sometimes the floodgates come out of just the sensitivity in people.

[Nikki]

Yeah.

[Brie]

So I would say all that. Yeah.

[Nikki]

It's like what I feel is what the holidays bring is like if you're like a shitty person that's like, usually it's surfaced and the holidays like, force some deep down feeling of like, there's still like, whether this person's a Grinch. They're still like that magical person deep down. And I feel like it hits that part of you. And that's what makes people feel the need to be nicer and give well.

[Brie]

And look at the Grinch. Like when. So one of the greatest Christmas stories. Honest, the kids and I were obsessed with the movie. I watch it all the time. The cartoon, not the real life human one, but like.

[Nikki]

But Jim Carrey didn't make an incredible.

[Brie]

He did, but. A little creepy, but.

[Nikki]

But I liked it.

[Brie]

You Know, like, you think of his story and why he was the Grinch, and when it takes him back to that little boy he lived in the orphanage when he was going to be loved. That's it.

[Nikki]

That's it. People accepted to be loved. They want to be thought of. They want to be someone. Somebody. And so I feel like it goes back to that place where hope comes to play in and all those different kind of emotions that fit into that part and it makes them a better person. And I wish they would say that all year long.

[Brie]

Yeah.

[Nikki]

You know, to make other people feel better. But at the end of the day. Yeah. Majority of the time, the pieces of it's because they are just longing to be accepted and loved.

[Brie]

Yeah.

[Nikki]

Yeah.

[Brie]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Nikki]

Another personal question. Or is it. Yeah, for sure.

[Brie]

Personal. For sure. Personal. What's something that Santa believes about you that you're pretty sure no one else realizes?

[Nikki]

Santa knows I'm not a.

[Brie]

There you go. He does. That's why you're on the nice list.

[Nikki]

That's right.

[Brie]

You are not naughty this year.

[Nikki]

No. I'm getting those diamond rings. No.

[Brie]

Next year, 2026.

[Nikki]

Okay. No. Do not start. Another heaven might be on the naughty list. No. So Santa. Well, Santa knows that. And he knows I'm not an alcoholic. He knows I barely drink another one.

[Brie]

Nicole. He really does. I know when people say that stuff, I'm like, shut the. Oh, I know.

[Nikki]

It's like it's the only time I look cute. I don't actually want to post. Yeah. Because I'm not going to post me Netflixing and chilling.

[Brie]

I'm also a millennial, has a wine brand. So when I do take photos, it's for my wine brand. I'm going to repost it. Cuz I was wearing makeup actually that day.

[Nikki]

Exactly.

[Brie]

Not my hair. Like how you see it right now.

[Nikki]

Right. And I'm not going to like, just take all these photos of me with my son and like, post it.

[Brie]

I'm also not going to reply and write this all in a comment. Yeah. Because I'm millennial and like, I get distracted. Yeah. I forget that, like, I was looking at social media there for a second, but instead I'm going to hit you with 10 emojis right now.

[Nikki]

Yeah. And yeah. So I think, you know, Santa knows that. And Santa knows also what a hard worker I am.

[Brie]

Yeah, I agree.

[Nikki]

And how much I give that people don't see.

[Brie]

There you go.

[Nikki]

Right?

[Brie]

Yeah.

[Nikki]

Yeah. Jeez.

[Brie]

Send people to North Pole so they can be told by Santa.

[Nikki]

Honestly.

[Brie]

All right.

[Nikki]

Hit me up with some successful.

[Brie]

Yeah.

[Nikki]

Is this my last one, or do I have two more?

[Brie]

I don't even know. Okay, hit me with it.

[Nikki]

I'm curious. Why do we expect a perfect holiday even though it never exists?

[Brie]

Girl, you watch too much Hallmark. I don't expect that. Who expects that? It's like saying, like, you're gonna have a perfect wedding, but something always goes wrong. I don't. I mean, I'll say this, actually. You know the one Christmas movie I like that I've watched so far? Have you seen the Michelle Pfeiffer one? All about being a.

[Nikki]

No, I need to do that one.

[Brie]

I actually liked it.

[Nikki]

Yeah.

[Brie]

I'm sure dads were throwing up. Go ahead. Go throw up. Yeah, Grinch. But like, actually, Stu McStooge. Or what was his name? The duck?

[Nikki]

McScrooge.

[Brie]

Scrooge.

[Nikki]

But I loved the Donald Duck version. But ye. But it's.

[Brie]

Yes, Scrooge.

[Nikki]

Scrooge something, right?

[Brie]

Yeah.

[Nikki]

I can't remember, but his name was Scrooge.

[Brie]

Yeah. With little Timmy.

[Nikki]

Yeah.

[Brie]

Yeah. But.

[Nikki]

But I felt like he had, like, a last name or something. No.

[Brie]

Gosh, I need to have the kids watch that. What's the Christmas. Whatever. But anyways, that one, so.

[Nikki]

And White.

[Brie]

That's a really good movie. Just showing how much moms make the mat. Like they're behind the Christmas magic and how we do try to make these holidays so perfect for everyone. We want everyone to be having fun.

[Nikki]

And Ebenezer screws Ebenezer Scrooge from the A Christmas Carol.

[Brie]

Yeah. Sony, dad, who watches that movie?

[Nikki]

Charles Dickens. A Christmas Carol.

[Brie]

So, yeah, you need to watch that. It was good. But I think moms, we put our pressure of having a perfect Christmas because we want everyone to have the best memories, the best time. We want them to all walk away and be like, that was incredible. So, yeah, that's it.

[Nikki]

I like it.

[Brie]

Yep.

[Nikki]

Okay.

[Brie]

All right.

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[Nikki]

Hit me with one more.

[Brie]

Okay, so it's going to be personal. Oh, gosh. If we made a pact to try something new and together every holiday season, what should it be? Oh, wow.

[Nikki]

Something new holiday season. I think it would be like, you and I get super busy always.

[Brie]

Like, you remember how we used to.

[Nikki]

Say, like, Oh, I thought this was my question.

[Brie]

I know, but I'm gonna give an example.

[Nikki]

Okay.

[Brie]

You remember when you and I were like, okay, so every year, every holiday season, we're gonna go to New York. That's how we're gonna do our Christmas shopping. So we can, like, get the vibes in New York. But then, like, come on. Like, that went out the window. But so that's what. So help me out.

[Nikki]

Right? But I guess it would be fun. But I don't want to make it about travel. But I would like that.

[Brie]

But that's what I mean. We before, like, really, like, we became moms and stuff like that.

[Nikki]

Yeah. Which was cool to have that. You still got to do Paris for Christmas.

[Brie]

So is that, like, what we're gonna do next year?

[Nikki]

I mean, I'm down. I'm just kidding. I mean, we should. But when the kids graduate high school, that's what we'll get into that tradition. Do it beginning of December. I mean, we could.

[Brie]

No, but something else that it doesn't.

[Nikki]

Deal with travel that I feel like it would be fun that we have to pick a thing for us to do. So is it a holiday hike somewhere or like a festive yo. Not a yoga retreat, but like something that we can do. Health and wellness. That's holiday vibes. That's a drive and is like a day. It doesn't have to be a day. It could be a few hours.

[Brie]

I don't know. Sounds boring to me.

[Nikki]

Or this is easy for you and I because we've lost this. We have to do a holiday Sister Sunday.

[Brie]

There you go. See, now that is what I'm thinking of. Like, I do health and wellness all the time.

[Nikki]

Oh, my gosh.

[Brie]

Oh, gosh.

[Nikki]

All right, Brie. Well, before we hit that inspiration affirmation, do you want to play a quick game with me?

[Brie]

Yes.

[Nikki]

Okay, it's just gonna be five questions. Holiday. Red flag or green flag? So let's set the scene. We're hosting our annual drummer boy dinner, and one of our cousins brings her new boo to the event, which would probably be me. Just kidding.

[Brie]

I mean, it depends how long we have.

[Nikki]

We have Maddie, too.

[Brie]

I mean, I don't know. It depends how long you're with someone.

[Nikki]

If it's like, I'm not done.

[Brie]

Oh.

[Nikki]

So being the protective and great big cousins we are, of course, we are assessing our everything. We'll go through a few scenarios, and we will decide if this guy is a straight up red flag or a green flag and good enough to be a part of the family.

[Brie]

Oh, I get it. So this all are green.

[Nikki]

Say red or green.

[Brie]

Okay.

[Nikki]

He offers to help clean the kitchen and actually does it. Right.

[Brie]

Green flag.

[Nikki]

He doesn't know what drummer boy dinner is, but he tries his best to follow along.

[Brie]

Green flag.

[Nikki]

He calls Bree. Breezy within five minutes of meeting her.

[Brie]

Could be a red.

[Nikki]

Yeah, a little comfy. Too fast.

[Brie]

Well, not even that. But, like, if he. Who do you hear? Breezy from? Where did. Well, I mean, I don't know. That's a mixed one. It'd be how he delivers it. Okay.

[Nikki]

Yeah, I agree. Like, if it's trying too hard or something. He asked so which twin is which more than once.

[Brie]

Red flag.

[Nikki]

He tells the kids Santa isn't real.

[Brie]

Oh, big red flag.

[Nikki]

I mean, he'd be kicked out at that point. Yeah.

[Brie]

But get this. Yeah, he called me Breezy. Couldn't tell us apart. He's out. Yeah.

[Nikki]

He plays with the kids instead of being glued to his phone.

[Brie]

I mean, green. Green.

[Nikki]

He brings a store bought dish but swears he almost made it himself.

[Brie]

Red.

[Nikki]

Really? I'd let it slide.

[Brie]

Well, just be honest.

[Nikki]

Right? Actually, yeah. Well, he said almost made it himself. Maybe he was making a joke.

[Brie]

And maybe if he did a couple wings, like. And then we're like, okay, okay.

[Nikki]

Yeah. He brought one bottle of wine for himself, and it's not bonita. Bonita. He brought one bottle for himself.

[Brie]

What's a red flag?

[Nikki]

Oh, yeah, he asked, so when are you two wrestling again?

[Brie]

Red flag.

[Nikki]

No, it's an annoying flag, not a red flag. Just kidding.

[Brie]

What color is. Yeah.

[Nikki]

He offers to take the family holiday photo and somehow gets everyone looking good.

[Brie]

I mean, green. Green Green.

[Nikki]

So it seems like overall, he was a green flag.

[Brie]

Yeah. A couple annoying things.

[Nikki]

We'll just talk to him about it.

[Brie]

Won't hold it against him.

[Nikki]

We'll pull him aside.

[Brie]

But if it happens every holiday or.

[Nikki]

Every Christmas, if he does it again, then he's out.

[Brie]

There's an issue.

[Nikki]

Yeah. You will never be invited to watch Eagles game.

[Brie]

That's it.

[Nikki]

All right. She moves on to the next.

[Brie]

Yep.

[Nikki]

There you go. All right. I love it. We'll bring it. Take us out with some inspiration affirmation.

[Brie]

Who says I have some? I thought you did.

[Nikki]

Oh, well, I thought you had a very curious conversation combo.

[Brie]

Well, what I would do is right now, I'd try to look one up on science, because that seems like that's what you're feeling. Okay, you guys, we're gonna hit you with a little inspiration affirmation. Obviously, I. When I see things, I like to snapshot them. I saw this because I think it's important this holiday season to remember. I think sometimes we don't forget the memories we give people or the moments we give people. Right. So I saw this quote is from Word Porn.

[Nikki]

Man, if very festive, Bri.

[Brie]

Very. If you only knew how much those little moments with you mattered to me. And I think what we forget is that so many people, like you said we were talking earlier, are alone. They want to feel loved. They want to feel accepted. But this holiday season, the moments you have with people sitting and just asking them, how is it going? Just the little things. It goes so far, and I feel like that's one thing when we were kids that our aunts and uncles would always remind us is giving the just as much time or as little time as you have to the people who are alone this holiday season.

[Nikki]

I agree. And to, you know, and I know we always do reminders for this, and everyone does, but to truly reach out to the ones that you know are alone or suffering or maybe you think might be suffering, or older people who've.

[Brie]

Lost their loved ones and might be spending Christmas alone and they're, like, in their 90s.

[Nikki]

And open up your door to people. Open up to your neighbors, you know, and. And even if you can't put something on their doorstep, like, meaning, like, you don't want to go buy wine for everyone. Like, bake something, write a card. I'm gonna have Mateo write a card for our neighbors for few. And I'm having him do stuff for his teachers.

[Brie]

And I have the kids make cookies.

[Nikki]

Yeah.

[Brie]

And we put them in these tin boxes. They Write the cards.

[Nikki]

It's.

[Brie]

And our neighbors all love it. And so I just stand there and watch.

[Nikki]

Yeah.

[Brie]

And they go knock on the door and hand it.

[Nikki]

So good for them. And so.

[Brie]

Yes, I think it's actually the. My kids love to make cookies. Yeah, let's not, you know. Oh, yeah. But when they make them for the neighbors, they. It's even more.

[Nikki]

It's different.

[Brie]

Yeah. And they do the frosting.

[Nikki]

I'm gonna have.

[Brie]

Yeah.

[Nikki]

Mateo, do the cookies, too. That'll be cute.

[Brie]

Yeah, it's cute. They're messy and ugly, but they're so delicious because the kids made them.

[Nikki]

I love that. Oh, I love that so much.

[Brie]

So just remember, it's not always about your memories and your moments, but you're gonna leave them with other people, too. So think about that this holiday season. All right, everyone, we're going to finish our vino. You're going to go do whatever you got to go do, and we will see you all next week. Yeah. Ooh. Oh, and also, you can watch videos of today's episode on all of our social platforms. That's Instagram, Facebook, Tik Tok, you name it, we're on it. And YouTube.

[Nikki]

Yeah.

[Brie]

And we have a hotline that you guys can call. Yeah, you can McCroge us, you can Santa us, You can do whatever.

[Nikki]

The spirit of how we thought of the duck first before, like, Ebenezer Scrooge.

[Brie]

I know, but I will tell you, we loved that. We loved it. And, like, the. What were the ducks names?

[Nikki]

I can't remember, but it was his nephew.

[Brie]

Duck. Oh. Ducktail. We love ducktales. And if you don't know, that means you're really young. All right, everyone, have a great weekend. Bye.

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