
In case you missed this episode of The Nikki & Brie Show, we're taking a look back at a convo that was so much fun and truly empowering! The twins dive deep what it truly means to be “that girl” and why it has nothing to do with age, status, or what kind of car you drive. From morning rituals and red carpet glow-ups to motherhood, mental health, boundaries, and rediscovering joy, they break down what it means to build your best self—not just look the part. Press play babes!
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Nikki. Why is it that every time 4pm comes around, I feel like I'm scrambling to make dinner? It's like I never know what I'm gonna make, what's in my fridge. I feel always lost and confused around dinner time.
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Well, girl, it's because dinner dread is real.
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I'm.
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Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Brianna.
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Good morning, Nicole.
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Did you like how I called you by your name?
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I know. Am I in trouble?
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No. But, everyone, welcome back to the Nikki and Briana Show. Just kidding, Bri. Show. Imagine. You know, I. I love my rebrand. Yeah. And I could always hear what's funny is forever. I could always hear mom's voice, but now I always hear Brian's voice. When I hear Brianna, it's like Brian's voice is stuck in my head with that. But. So we got a good one for you all today. Today we want to talk about a phrase that we, as women, hear often. And it's been on social media a lot as of late. And I thought I knew it correctly, and I've had to relearn this phrase, but. But it's about being or becoming that girl. And we want to make things clear that becoming that girl has no age limit whatsoever. No, it doesn't. You know, maybe at 25, that girl might be drinking a green juice and doing pilates, and at 45, maybe she's booking spa days, saying no without explaining herself and rocking matching silk pajamas. You know what everyone? It's all about how you show up for you. And we're about to dive into to that. Showing up for you, being that girl and everything in between.
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Gosh, who knew I was part of a trend?
B
I know. Well, you know, Bri, I've, I've really. What's crazy is me being, you know, back on WWE and doing things on TV every week. You, you get a lot of people talking, right? So I've been seeing like a lot of like what I've been like. My bell army is just so good to me, but they've been like, nikki's that girl. And I just thought they meant like, you know, like, yeah, that girl. And I've realized it's actually has become a very big social media term as of late. And it's not like it means basically like you're living as the best, most confident, most put together version of yourself. So it's not like you're the most popular girl or it has some status to it. It's about inside and out. It's about energy. And I was like. When I started to dive more into this, this is what I do have to say I love about the social trends nowadays is the younger generation puts a lot of thought into things.
C
Yeah, right. Yeah, it's very insightful. There's a lot of meaning, a lot.
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Insightful meaning, a lot of feels. It just really digs within. It's not surface at all.
C
No.
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And I've really enjoyed learning more about this. Like I use Google AI, all of it so much. I'm like, okay, so what does this really mean or these acronyms or whatever it might be? I'm like, what are they talking about? So I really have loved of what being that girl has been. And you know, I have a question for you is what does being that girl mean to you now versus what it meant to you? Let's just say in your 20s.
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I mean, I think in my 20s being that girl kind of I would measure things on success where I'm at in life. Kind of like, am I on the right path? It kind of felt like, you know, in our 20s we have this free pass of being wonderlust and kind of daydreamers and exploring and finding ourselves. But in your 20s, I felt like when you became that girl, it's like you got the good job, you have the good boyfriend, you're on track with maybe marriage and success. But now that girl is none of those things. To me, like that girl, to me is the girl that lets go of what people think. I live life for myself, for my pure joy and happiness and no one else's. So it's interesting. I mean, it's. Couldn't be more night and day. I don't know. What about you?
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No, I so agree with you. Because what I've come to realize is definitely being that girl back in our 20s was for sure about status. Was for sure about who you with. Who. Who you're with. Are you married? Do you have kids? What kind of house do you have? It was so more about the tangible things and about the fancy things and luxurious things. The money in your bank and what I really love.
C
Well, and I have to say really quick on just that thought is you didn't have to have it yet, but you were on your way to it, if you know what I mean.
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Right. So let's just say all of a sudden, because we had some of our friends, those girls all of a sudden became real estate agents and we're selling incredible homes and were able to have the BMW at 25 and were able to get, you know, move from Pink Zone off Garnet Avenue and go shop in the mall. Let's just say Nordstrom's. Yeah, but you know what I mean, they became that girl. I was. It would. It was the ones who got into their careers quickly and showed success, like you said. And what I've realized is we didn't really have the inspiration that everyone has now to be the main character of your own story, as everyone says. We didn't get that energy when we were young. It wasn't about like. No, actually, honey, let me tell you how you're going to own your own story. I mean, we did kind of have sex in the city. And when we'd all kind of talk about Carrie Bradshaw, she really was that, if you think about her character, for sure.
C
That's why I was obsessed with her.
B
Right. It was like she kind of. She was living life how she wanted and didn't care what people thought. She was independent. She was in relationships. She didn't care what people thought. But if you think about it, that was kindly, kind of the only thing that maybe gave us that main character energy. But it wasn't even defined in that way. And so now in days, when I see about being that girl, it's more about what's on the inside and things that you do for yourself, not for others. It's actually you're that girl when you show up and you talk about your morning routine. So no, this is what I do in the morning. I wake up at this time to get this workout in. I make my own Americano or maybe I go to my favorite coffee shop because I can. I do this skincare routine to make sure I get this wellness and glow. I put on this nice outfit that I put together. It doesn't have to say Louis Vuitton or Gucci. I put it together, I feel good, I look good now. I'm like oozing confidence, which makes me that girl. And now I'm going to go chase my goals right now. I'm going to give that energy and on top of that, have some self respect and boundaries. And then I'm going to go buy myself some flowers and make sure when I come home all my flowers are blooming. That's like to me nowadays what being that girl is.
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I know, but don't you. I mean, at least I think like this and I feel this. But we in some weird way without, not like we didn't know it, but we knew who those girls were. We knew actually the girls who didn't care and like literally live like march to their own drum. And I feel like it's kind of nice that we like found it on our own without like somebody instructing us to. I mean definitely. Would there have been a couple nice tips and like advice? Yeah, I would have, you know, met, made less mistakes. But like, you know, like, for example, like, do you remember like a moment where you were like, oh, I'm that girl in your 20s, not 30s, not 40s, like in your 20s where you're like, oh, I'm that girl. I don't need to try, I just need to show up.
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Yeah, well, I do actually. And you. The one thing to add to what you just said was it has given us a lot of grit. And you see that in our generation we have a lot of grit and grace. And it's because you're right, we, we had to do it on our own. We had to figure it out. But I do it, it would be signing my WDB contract, getting through training, getting on tv, getting a real contract. Then when I finally eventually moved back to San Diego, I couldn't believe that I got to rent an apartment in a high rise in Little Italy, downtown San Diego. That was like a bougie spot. I was, had a lease on a BMW. I was saving good money. I was going out, being able to buy my friends drinks and dinner. And in that moment I remember feeling like I'm that Girl, like, I've made it. I feel good. I remember when I'd come here all my days in San Diego, which was majority of my life. When I had to do the $2, you call it, I was cocktail waitressing till midnight or 2am and when I came back in that space, I was like, I felt so accomplished. I felt so good. You remember my high rise? Like, I remember walking in that place and I just was like. And it was so tiny, but I was like, I have made it. Like. And then driving my little BMW around, my BMW I had for so long and for sure, I. And to be able to then take care of your friends and go to nice restaurants and be like, I got it. Like, no stress.
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Yep.
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Yeah, I remember. I mean, I was when all that was happening. 26.
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Wow.
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Felt good.
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Yeah. I mean, mine had to be around the same time, but it's weird because mine's a little different because it's more when we started filming.
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Because you were like doing your Carrie moments. No, because you were in New York.
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Well, yeah.
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Such a sick apartment in like a cool area.
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I mean, for sure. But I think more is when we were filming the reality shows and when they hit really big, it was almost like, wow, we can be authentically us. And people love that. They loved seeing like, you're imperfect sides. They like the flaws. They loved hearing your opinion, even if they didn't agree with it. And I think it was the first time I felt like I could let go and just be me. And I kind of feel like that's being in it, girl. Like, you know that. And then we got to bring it into like a wrestling characters, so. And I just think it was like just me being able to be me and like I was being looked at for that.
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Well, we are finally individuals, which was so huge.
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Yeah. Because if you're a twin and you know, it's like you get categorized a lot. Like the girls, like, you know, we're considered one all the things. So yeah.
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Yes.
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It was like a big moment.
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Nikki, why is it that every time 4pm comes around, I feel like I'm scrambling to make dinner? It's like I never know when what I'm going to make, what's in my fridge. I feel always lost and confused around dinner time.
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Well, girl, it's because dinner dread is real.
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Oh, my gosh. The idea of cooking a big meal, overwhelming. And you also don't feel like waiting an hour for delivery.
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Well, hey, let Stouffer save the day.
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Less@Wayfair.Com that's W A Y F A I R.com Wayfair every style, every home. Well, and you know, just speaking on all this, do you feel like. So I have a little quiz for you if you want to take it.
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Oh, goodness.
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To see if you are really, it's quick. But are you living that that girl energy, Laa? No. Well, I mean, yeah, you already live in that. We already know that. I have some cute Tao stories I gotta tell you about from our day yesterday that I really want you and buddy to do with us next time. But let's just real. I just want to quiz you real quick and for our listeners. Hit pause, go get yourself a piece of paper and pen. Come back, hit play. Because just let's see where you're at right now for Are you that girl? Okay, so Bri, you're going to give your point. You're going to Give yourself one point for each. Yes. And just keep track on your hands.
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Okay?
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Okay. Okay. So, morning moves. You have at least one morning ritual that makes you feel grounded. Coffee discount.
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Yeah. Yes.
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Hydration Halo. You actually drink enough water? Most days. Wine doesn't count? Sadly, yes. No. Bonita. Bonita girl. Okay, Micro glow up. You have at least one look good, feel good, habit. You do. Just for you. So it could be skin care, hairstyle, signature, scent.
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For sure. Yes.
B
Okay. Main character mindset. You've romanticized something simple in your week, like walking your dog with a cute playlist. For you, it'd be two dogs.
C
Yeah, for sure.
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Okay, well, what is that?
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I mean, mine's always gardening. Whether it's planting flowers or.
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Hi, my name is Brie.
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You know, fruits or veggies. Just grabbing fresh eggs from a chicken coop.
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Yeah, girl, you're a leger. Little scenes going viral on X right now.
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Oh, is it where I say I look like you from Total Divas.
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Then they're putting our side by sides for me in 2015 with, like, the same dress.
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Yeah. No way. That's hilarious.
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It's really funny. Boundary. Babe, you said no to someone or something in the last month that drained your energy.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Oh, can you tell?
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I mean, I keep your fingers up.
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Too, so I know.
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Yeah, I feel like I. I definitely. Like, there's things sometimes.
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Is there anything you could tell us? If not, it's a little personal. Okay, then that's fine.
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But definitely, like. And usually I tell my personal stuff, but I'm gonna keep this one with it. But there was something where I felt like, you know, like, taken advantage of, and I usually would, like, let slide. And then I was like, you know what? Actually, no, I just feel like I'm not gonna allow this. Take up energy.
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Yeah.
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And so I called it out. Nice.
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Okay. I love that. Good for you. So that's a point. Wow, you're so far. Five.
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You got five points, girl. This is what. When they say you're seeing the test, you know, it's taken me many decades to get here.
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Yeah, it really has. I'm sure majority of women in their 40s would ace this quiz.
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Yeah.
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Self respect, spending you've invested in yourself. A class, a book, a workout program, even a fresh journal, for sure. Or a new wedding ring. Come back, queen. You've bounced back from a bad day without letting it derail your whole week. Actually, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Oh, okay. Can we know this or is that personal too? Does that involve the boundary?
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So, like, as a. So everyone will Have a different hard day. Right. Mine. I'm a mom to a wild five year old who has big feelings. So I feel like there's times where I could allow the big feelings to start my day off a certain way, depending how his day starts. But I have been so great. And this is thank you to the good inside by I think her name is Dr. Rebecca. I need to look anyways. It's been incredible. Her apple. But I've been able to not fall into it. Not let it stress me out, not let it ruin my day. Instead, I've had enough energy to figure out how I can turn his day and without it affecting mine. And you know, and I think like before, as a parent I could. I sometimes fell into like being really tired. Like, what's the easy solution? I think because we constantly will joke how we have mom brain or we feel like so blurred at times even though I don't feel it anymore. But that like we just didn't take the time to think of the correct decision. So anyways, that's been like a big one. Especially in the summer. Like I been around the kids 24 7, so it's been a lot of us time. A lot. Finally, Brian and I went on a date night last night. Our first date night.
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I know I interrupted it.
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Yeah. But that's okay for a sec. But it was amazing. Oh, actually we've had two I like because we went to the Lumineers.
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Um, but yeah, I love it.
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Okay, I'm acing this.
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You're acing. You're seven for seven. Last question. Future focused. You know what you're working toward right now, big or small, and you're tech taking steps toward it. I mean, hi, my name is Bri.
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You know, girl.
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All right, so you scored seven to eight points. You got eight points. You aced. So it's babe, you are that girl. Teach us your ways. Now for everyone who didn't ace, look, if you're four to six points, you're in your that Girl Rising era. Hey, that's a good place to be. You just need a few tweaks and you will be unstoppable. And look, if you're at 0 to 3 points, do not let that let you down because that means you are still in your pilot episode. Hey, we all love pilot episodes. Pilot episodes have brought in Emmys and Oscars. They are award winning. So get that glow up plot twist because you know it's coming.
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Oh, sure, I like that.
B
You know, that's great. You know those kind of things. Just they make you feel good, but they also like start to make you think like weekly, weekly thoughts. It's like almost something I, I want to start to quiz myself weekly and just. You know what I mean, See where I'm at.
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Because you obviously did the quiz before me, which is why you wanted to give me the quiz. Did you ace it?
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I ace debris, yeah.
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And I feel like that's where you're at in your life. And I can't imagine, I mean, maybe you're gonna go backwards. Doubt it. But I feel like you're here. You're like here. And there's no going backwards. Like, I don't think you need to quiz yourself every week.
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Oh, no. And I really don't so much of glow up energy. You know, sometimes people think immediately they'll think cosmetic surgery. They think, they just, they think of the vanity. So much vanity. And it's, it's so not true for people to have real glow ups. Usually there's a change in someone's life. For me, divorce. Then there's self care. I've been on it with self care. Not only physically, as far as like facials, home health. Let me tell you guys, Nads plus. When everyone's trying to say peptides are all this stuff. I mean, no, I've been taking Nads plus. Thank you, Hone Health for that. Nads plus is the real deal. I definitely am seeing the changes with NADs plus and not just on my skin energy. All the things. And my favorite with HONE is I like injecting it. It's going straight in the bloodstream. Make sure to talk to a doctor about that. But I don't want to get in trouble. But they have doctors. That's been amazing. Then I do therapy. So now I'm working on my mental health. And let me tell you, mental health, it's a glow up. I started, I got a new hairdo. I changed the color of my hair. I made it longer. It makes me feel good. It makes me feel confident. That's part of my glow up. I'm. I got a personal trainer. I've been getting in better shape. I'm showing off a little bit more because I'm feeling better about myself. So it's so funny when people go straight to the quick fixes when it's like, no. Somehow majority of the time it's because someone's had all these changes in their life for the better. And now we're seeing it. And that's a glow up.
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Yeah. Well, you know what's Crazy is I ran into someone yesterday I hadn't seen in a while, and they looked incredible healthy. Like, you know, when you just look at something, you're like, they're healthy. Like, they're glowing healthy. They're just telling.
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They just got done working on nutrients. Yeah.
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And you could tell they're just high on life, feeling good. And it was incredible because they're like, yeah. And you know what? I decided next year, I'm going to move to Spain for a year, do, like, up, like, they're studying and, like, add some stuff to their, like, degree type of thing. But I'm like, that's what happens when you feel good. Like, you want to conquer, you want to call. I was, like, shocked. I'm like, oh, my gosh. And she was like, I know. Can you believe it? And she's like, but I can't. I'm so excited to. To do this step.
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And I'm like, I love that.
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But that's what happens when you feel good. You can take on anything.
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You feel good. You can. And brain health. There's something else, you know, that's so important to constantly be teaching your brain things, even, you know, it's hard when we all are tired. But like I told myself, and I know you're the same. After this run with wwe, where I'm traveling every week, I. I'm like, you know what? I really just want to start to take courses on knowing the wine industry even better. As far as I. I know we know the basics and even a little bit more than that, but I want to know the exact terms. I want to know just the depth of wine making, wine growing, the industry, the business, the agriculture. I. I want.
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Well, I told you to come to college with me.
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I. Well, you and I both want to do that. But then life started happening. It's. We still have young kids.
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We have young kids.
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It's tough.
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Finally, Betty being in full days of school helped me, you know, like, get in the gym more.
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Right. And I'm doing my other passion right now, like, to be able to wrestle. And that's really helped me of where I'm at in life, of this glow up, like, giving me my confidence back and just, you know, feeling like that girl for real, it's done. And I'm having fun. And I think that's what people are seeing, too. They don't realize I haven't had fun in years. Like, I wasn't laughing this hard, wasn't having this much fun. And the fun's coming back in my Life, and you feel it and you.
C
See it for sure.
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And fun is so important to have in life. So, Bri, you know, as we're talking career and just life. A fan one fan question. We have a few fan questions that we'll be doing through this episode, but one was advice for young women trying to balance a demanding career with other aspects of life from Sam.
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I mean, this is how I look at it. We got to pay the bills, right? So we. We need jobs. We gotta work. And so I think sometimes, you know, we do get stuck in careers where we do look at it like, this is me paying the bills, like, surviving, but it might not be the dream. So I always recommend, like, this is going to be that one time in your life where you're going to feel like you're overworking. You're going to feel like maybe you're running a little on empty because you want to find the time to also do your passion, whatever that may be. And it might be hobbies for now, but it could end up being a career later on. So, you know, a lot of times people work Monday through Friday that 8 to 5. So if it's like pottery class you want to do, I know there's this, like, one class I really want to do, but the time it starts is 7pm but that could be perfect for someone who works a desk job. If you want to learn how to make pottery, maybe you want to be a gardener. Well, you have the weekends to get in there and, like, get dirty. Or maybe it's like, I don't know, people want to do all sorts of fun things, whether it's theater, all the things. And away from the arts, it could be something else, like a scientist. I have no idea. But whatever it is, that little time you have away from your career, make sure you get your hobbies in and your passions because you never, what, know what blossoms from that.
B
Right. And I also feel with that, it kind of is. What we talked about on last week's episode is make it seasonal. So your hobbies, if your career is demanding and you have all these things that you want to do, it's like, okay, how can I get in my passions, my hobbies, my career is demanding. And, you know, look at your career is if that is your future and that's somewhere that you can build to where you want to go, stick with that. But go. This season, I'm going to do pottery class because. Because I've always wanted to learn pottery. And then when winter comes, I'm going to take this on, I've always wanted to do this Pilates class or this fun dance class or whatever it might be. And maybe that, like, that would be my advice now for the younger generation is do it in seasons, see what you like, what sticks, but don't try to do it all at once. That, that was totally my personality for sure. But you'll just wear yourself out and you know, when it comes, like being sociable and maybe just have that one day a week we pick a fun dinner spot so then you're not draining yourself. And then that one night is so special.
C
Well, and like I always wanted to be a florist, I always wanted to own my own flower shop. And then we did the floor retreat, which I loved. But what I realized is being with flowers is for sure my pastime. But to run a flower shop, I don't know if I have the mental capacity to do it. And it was fun on that retreat to see the numbers broken down and how people have to run their shops. And so it's fun. Like look and see if there's like little retreats or little like fun things to go do and try to see if it's something like you really someday want to take serious.
B
Yeah. No, I love that.
C
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Yay. Right?
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So exciting.
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To help for whatever happens next. Grab a Kleenex and another question. And I like this because, you know, we touched on, you know, being in our 20s and like, you know where we are at with that from Brian. He asked, what would you tell your younger self in college?
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You know, I feel like I would say, now I'm a dropout, but I'm a dropout for a reason. I think I should have taken a gap year. I know people, like, some people will really like love taking a gap year. Some people I think, kind of feel like, I don't know, like you got to go with the momentum of like graduating from high school, going into college, and a lot, I guess depends too on scholarships. But for me, I think gap years are really actually important. I feel like it gives you that year to kind of like adjust, be like, okay, like what direction do I want to go to? Because maybe if I had that year, I would actually like, would have done college instead. I felt overwhelmed. I'm trying to work, I'm trying to go to school, partying, the whole thing. That's why I dropped out. So I think I just would have told myself, take a year off work, you know, like work, save some money and then figure it out from there. And then I probably would. I'm probably would have a degree.
B
Yeah, no, it's true. I definitely, for me, I, I would have told my younger self in college, let's just have a routine here. We could put partying in this routine. We can put some other things in this routine. But I'm like you. I wish I had more of a routine towards my future or just in life, like I wish, okay, I'm going to take this workout class once a week and then these are the nights of my shifts at Hooters and then only book classes for college that are these time slots. And if they're not in that time slot, then you're going to find another class to take. And I probably would like you have gotten to a degree, but I wish I just had more of that routine. I had that calendar book. You know, the one thing is, when I saw Seamus in the halls last week at Monday Night Raw, or two weeks ago at Monday Night Raw in Brooklyn, it was cute because he goes, you know, I'll never forget when I got to FCW and I was over at you and your sister's apartment. And he goes, and you two were doing your vision boards of, like, what you want out of the future. And I remember leaving there going, wow, these girls, like, really have it. Like, they are driven. Like, he said the most complimentary stuff about us. And he goes, like, I just knew you had it. And I. I understand, like, why where you two are at today, like, we were so young, and you two just knew what you wanted. And he goes, I was just so impressed. And I always think about that. We do love our vision. You guys were putting these, like, things together, like these goals. And I go, vision boards. And he goes, yeah. And isn't that funny, though?
C
That is.
B
I'm like, wow, we've always. So. We might not have had it in college, but we definitely got it right. In our early 20s, we have been always into vision boards. I mean, I feel like that we made our first ones either at 18 or 19. I just wish I put a routine with that vision board.
C
Well, you know what? Yeah. I mean, I could only imagine what I did at 18. I actually wish I'd go back and see, but I felt like I had a lot of quotes, but I. But the one thing I've always admired about you and I is we're not embarrassed about our vision boards. I'm like, yeah, look at this is what I want in life. Yeah, Manifests for me.
B
Yeah, exactly. Put it. Can you put the energy out there for me, please? But, like, why should we be embarrassed of our vision boards when that's what.
C
We want to become, right?
B
You know what I mean?
C
I 100 shoot for the stars.
B
Do not let your shyness or that, you know, that side of you, like, not want to shoot for the stars because you're embarrassed of it. Go shoot for them because you'll get them. Have you ever though, like. And I don't know if it was then or if it's now, but have you ever not felt like you were that girl? And if so, like, what pulled you out of that space?
C
I mean, motherhood was hard for me to Adjust to, not because of anything with, you know, my child. I was trying to figure out my own identity, where I belong. Like, who's the Brie? Like, is it the old breeze out? There's a new Brie in. How do I blend? Like, what do I do? I was trying to figure out how to keep up. And, like, I never took a minute to be like, what do you need, Bri? Or, how do you want this to look? Or, what will make you happy? I was. I was just trying to please everyone at the time, and I let myself really sink, and I just think I was, like, I was on no fuel. I could, like, there. It was just a lot. So that period of time and a lot of it all meant was my, like, 33 to 40, like, was really tough, like, because then it was like, you know, the minute I thought I figured myself out that I'm pregnant again and a pandemic, and that so just was like. So I felt like that was definitely a period of time where I know I wasn't that girl at all. Like, for sure not.
B
Yeah.
C
But I got out of it, and then I figured out who that totally. What about you?
B
Oh, yeah. Oh, she sure did. You know, I think I would be the same. It was definitely the pandemic for me. Like, even early in pregnancy, I was working out with my trainer. I felt good. I felt cute. You know, I had some of the pregnancy things, but I felt great overall. It was fun to plan outfits. And then when all that hit and everything was so new.
C
Right.
B
So everything was closed down. There was no working around everything, and I had no help. And then it was like Arizona Heat, and I just felt like I fully lost myself, and I just lost being that girl in my life and my story, and that was tough. And then what happens is, you know, two years go by, and then you're trying to get yourself back together, and then there are other things in your life that are making you unhappy. And it was just so hard to pull myself out of that space. So I definitely feel like, you know what I mean, from 2020 to 2024, I was just not that girl. And I would try to, like, figure it out with, like, little quick fixes on what would make me happy. Is it getting a bob? You know what I mean? Like, your bob looked so good.
C
I went through the worst, honestly.
B
You did. You did. My bob I will probably bring back when I'm older. I think it's that chic, cool haircut. Levy. My long.
C
I went through so many bad haircuts. In my 30s. Holy.
B
You did? I felt bad because right when you'd come back from bad haircut, you would go to someone and then you get another bad haircut. I'm like, oh, my gosh. You just grew it out and just.
C
Kind of would try someone new. Just. And I would explain to them how I got a bad haircut and then they would botch my hair. And I'm like, what though?
B
Yeah.
C
I just remember thinking, like, I gotta go back to my long ass hair, because that's the only thing that made me feel good. But I mean. But there was a lot of stuff I was just trying to figure out. And this is what I'll give, like, parents credit is in the middle of us surviving, you know, we. We go with a lot. Because you're just so selfless at the time because, you know, your kids are like, first. But, like, we're tired. Like, you're so incredibly tired. You're putting other people's needs first who are half the time telling you off or not listening. And then, like, you know what I mean? And then you're just like, at the end of the day, like, you're like, should I really feel guilty to eat this little bit of ice cream or have this glass of wine? But you're like, gosh, I need to still lose 10 pounds of baby weight. And I just want to decompress for a moment. You know, like, parents go through it. Holy moly. But that's why we get Mother's Day and Father's Day.
B
Yeah. And the greatest thing about it is we get to bounce back and we get to have a comeback story. And the one thing that those years taught me was the importance of self care. Because that's the one thing we let go of when we become parents. And honestly, in a way, rightfully so. Yeah, we just brought life into the world and we're trying to figure it out and. But you know, you don't want it to go by too long because then you. You need to then take care of you. And that's the one thing is I let go of self care. And you just see it. You see it on you. So. But it's. It's a. It's just a hard. That's the hardest balance to figure out is new parents self care. Especially if you're someone who doesn't have help. That's like, where it's tough, you know, When I look at the people who have a lot of help, I'm like, damn lucky. And help and help that you trust, like Grandparents and different things like that. You know what I mean? I hope you don't pay someone who's for sure. Yeah, exactly. That's what I mean. Like ones where you're like, okay, they will, you know, they will level my child like I will and take care of my child like me. That's like the beauty of, like, grandparents. So another question for you, Brie. Do you think you're still surprising yourself? Like, even at this stage and being.
C
In this era 100, I feel like I surprise myself a lot. And I just think it's. We're constantly evolving. You know, you don't just do that when you're younger. You're doing it as you age. And so I feel like I'm blown away that sometimes the things that I'm capable of or I'm learning and then all of a sudden, things I will one day be like. Well, I kind of feel like I'm an expert in this. So, yeah, I'm always surprising myself. What about you? I love that.
B
Definitely. And especially for me, it would be like boundaries and saying no to things or just kind of getting out of that people pleasing era of myself and just being more stern with my boundaries and also knowing my worth and not settling.
C
Well, I really love that, Nicole, because I feel like you've come a long way with your boundaries and I feel like.
B
Thank you.
C
Just seeing you as of late, you're in a really special place in your life. Like one where, yeah, you are. Like, you have a lot of strength. Yeah, I guess you are that girl. Because you know what you want and you're not gonna let anyone, like, interfere with, like, I guess, you know, the things that you love that you're working towards and where you're at. And so. And your space has become so sacred and you're protective of that. And so it's been. It's really neat and it's really cute too, because you Mateo, like you guys to have like your own little world. And we do. It's really beautiful.
B
Oh, gosh. So you should be proud.
C
And you're only gonna keep going up.
B
Yeah, that's right, girl.
C
When.
B
When you get into this space and I've worked so hard to get here, you. You do. You protect that energy, you protect that space. And when you see. See life a certain way, you only go up from there. Because I look at things. Let's just say I might not like my creative or Bonita. Bonita sales might be rough today, or Birdie B didn't break this deal, but the energy still stays good in my space. I look at it. I have such a perspective now of, why did that happen? That's for a reason. And I look at all open doors, and I don't look at closed doors, and I get something. I'm like, you know, I'm gonna make this fun. I'm gonna have great energy, because I'm just grateful that I gotta live another day, that I feel good, that I have an amazing son. I own my home. Like, I'm just. I. My eyes. I see things very differently. And it's. It takes work to get to this place. And then once you do, you're like, I'm not leaving this place. I am protecting. I love that I'm staying in this light. Yeah. And it feels great. Bree, one last question before we play a game. And this is from Emma, and I think this is fun before we get into our game, but it's what motivates you guys the most. I feel like we might have the same answer for this.
C
Well, family, family, family. Plain and simple.
B
I don't.
C
All I want to do is take care of my family. And that goes from, like, mom to dad to even my brother, but my babies and my husband, you. But that's it.
B
Yeah.
C
My cousins. That's it. I just. Anything I do in life, yeah, I'm motivated. Family.
B
I'll ride in a Lamborghini, but I don't care about owning a Lamborghini. I'd rather do things for my family if I'm able to do that, and for us to just enjoy life together. I get motivated for my son. I want my son to have incredible education. I want him to have tools that I didn't get to have growing up. So that motivates me to keep hustling, to work hard to save, to build this life that I know no one can take. I'm motive, but motivated. So much family and faith. That's like it. And I have to say. And you know, I'm authentic in saying this, and I know you feel the same, but the Bella army, my fandom, the people like, what motivates me is to keep a platform that I could reach to people for good because there's bad in this world. But people need to have motivation, inspiration of things that are good and how we could overcome things, because life isn't perfect. So how can we do this? And I really care about that. Like, that motivates me a lot to stay where I'm at, um, so I can continue to help others, because I love it. I'm not hustling. And I don't keep these platforms. I can't help people in the way that I want to. Worldwide for sure.
C
Couldn't agree more. Well, I love that. I love all of that.
A
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B
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A
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B
When we get away is that I.
A
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C
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B
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B
Can get really busy. Really busy. I mean, I would say it's been busy for all of us.
C
I know.
B
And sometimes we just need to take.
C
A breather, sit down, and ask ourselves one very important question.
B
What's that, Bri? Have you had your Hershey's? I sure have had my Hershey's Brie. And you know what? When you need to brighten up your day or even, even put a smile on your face, grab the classic creamy texture and pure milk chocolate flavor of Hershey's milk chocolate.
C
Whether you're eating it on the go, breaking off a few pieces for s' mores night, or treating yourself to something sweet, Hershey's milk chocolate checks all the boxes.
B
It sure does. You wanna know what one of my favorite moments with Hershey's chocolate is, Teo? And I like, I love it. Cause you know me, I'm chocolate lover. But now I have a son who's a chocolate lover. So we split bars all the time. It's just such a moment for us, a very happy moment. We look at each other. He always ends up getting chocolate all over his face. But it's just such a sweet moment that I find myself always reaching for a Hershey bar.
C
Always. I mean, we love making s' mores in my family. So every time I bust out a Hershey bar, my kids start screaming with excitement. They know it's about to be s' more time. But so for all of you, shop for Hershey's milk chocolate now at a.
B
Store near you found Wherever candy is sold.
C
But I'm very excited to play a game, especially this one, because I feel like it really does go with the theme of everything we're talking about. But this game is called Blind Rankings Red Carpet Edition. Before we get into some inspiration and affirmation, we are going to play Blind Rankings. And this is Nicole. Our producers have pulled some of our most iconic, chaotic, maybe even questionable red carpet looks over the years. We'll rank them from 1 to 10, but we have to place each look as it comes up without knowing what's coming next. So let's get started. You know. You know how to do these blank?
B
Yeah. You. Is it the one? Are we ranking one through five? Oh, no. From one through 10?
C
Yeah. Here we go, girl. Oh, no. Okay. These might not be it girl moments.
B
Oh, boy. I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I remember feeling like JLO that night. I mean, for me, I'm gonna rank it at 5.
C
I'll do 5, too. The Bangs definitely are a 10, but we'll go 5 because my butt looks good in that. What bracelet am I wearing? Geez.
B
Oh, my gosh. We can't diss ourselves, though. But okay.
C
Oh, my gosh. This is what, MTV Movie Movie Awards.
B
Yeah. Remember, this was. I mean, our boys. Were they one or two?
C
Yeah. They were young.
B
This was our first appearance since the babies. Since the pandemic. I think, Bri.
C
I think you're right.
B
Yeah.
C
Oh, my God.
B
I remember that.
C
I know.
B
This was right before I made. I did a bob. Oh, yes. Yeah.
C
Girl crazy.
B
Yeah.
C
All right, so we're gonna four. Four.
B
Okay. Oh, shoot. I see. I feel like we should have put that one.
C
I know.
B
I really liked this. I really felt myself. Okay, so this was at Queen of the Ring premiere in la.
C
Yeah.
B
I remember really feeling myself this night. I was happy with my hair. I was.
C
More natural look.
B
Yeah. More natural makeup. I really love that dress. You know me. Red vinyl is, like, so hot. So I would put this at a three.
C
Yeah, let's put this at a three.
B
Three, right. Yeah, shoot. I'm thinking we should have put stuff down a bit. We should. That's okay.
C
You're the one who threw that one out of five. That gold dress.
B
I know. We should.
C
I would have put that at seven.
B
But should we change in?
C
We can't. That's part of the game.
B
Okay.
C
We effed ourselves earlier. Oh, my gosh.
B
Okay. No, let's be nice to ourselves real quick. Those dresses were amazing on us.
C
Well, wait, where was this?
B
And the red Roses. We're being mean. Okay, so you guys, we're in red Latina dresses. We have red roses in our hair. I held onto this dress so long because, yeah, we're. I could see the G4 in the background and all that. I loved this dress. This dress was the emoji icon. Like, I remember feeling like Shakira.
C
I loved it. I don't know. I'm not. Sit down.
B
You aren't?
C
No, I'm gonna say this is an eight.
B
Whatever. Oh, and I have my fake Louis Vuitton purse. That was my first Louis Vuitton. I have your purse.
C
I wish. My shoulders need to be back.
B
Oh, another fake Louie. Both. They were both from Canal Street, I think, in New York City.
C
That's how.
B
Okay, this is the thing. We will put it at 4.
C
4.
B
Only because of the fake Louis. But I really like.
C
This is going at number eight.
B
I mean. I mean, I'm sorry. No, I was thinking six.
C
Now it's not.
B
We look so adorable here.
C
Seven. I'll give you seven. And that's it. Perfect. It's seven. Okay, okay, next.
B
Okay, fine. Oh, please, let us put this at 8. Why did I do this? Look. You look so hot here. That was the worst outfit.
C
I love this.
B
I regret that outfit and the hair clips. Really?
C
Well, I think you look so cute. The hair clips could.
B
Okay, so you guys, where. This is the Nick Nickelodeon Choice Awards. This was like, during, right after, like AGT Extreme era. And I was thinking, because it was the Kids Choice Awards, like, look a little kiddish, but why did I want to look like that? I'm a grown ass woman and I.
C
Just actually think you look really cute.
B
Why did I choose this? Oh, really?
C
Better? Yeah, better than Latina. Like, this was identical look.
B
This was one of my, like, not favorite looks. But you. I remember thinking, like, you looked so hot. So this is like a. Okay. Well, because of you, you were.
C
This is going at number eight.
B
Yeah. Thank you. Gosh, thank you. Oh, I love this. This is really cute. So this was when we were doing Media Day for total divas in New York. It was total divas for total Bellas at Extra.
C
Right.
B
I remember both of us just had sex in the city moments. Here I was obsessed with my high heels. Here. I still have them. I love them. I remember loving my earrings. I just loved this whole look. My glam and my hair matched. It was. Everything was perfect. I. I really loved this look.
C
I was feeling this.
B
And you look amazing. Brie.
C
Yeah. So where do we put this at four?
B
So we put this at number four.
C
Four or three? We already have a four. Six. Let's put this at six.
B
Okay, perfect. Okay. So this was when we were doing our announcement that we are pregnant for People magazine. I remember we were unhappy with what the stylist pulled for us that day. It was nothing like us. We. And there was like. I even remember the people. People weren't even happy.
C
No.
B
So this is going to be very low for me because. Yeah, we'll put those at 10. Which sad because it could have been so cute, but.
C
Well, there was dresses we liked on us, but they didn't want us to wear. They wanted us.
B
They wanted like something flowy, but then all the flowy dresses looked like that.
C
Because you and I are pregnant in this picture. You and I were pregnant. We were like.
B
And just with like our dark hair, like. Yeah, it just didn't flow. But okay. Yeah, 10. For sure. 10. Oh, I did love this look. Okay. This was when we did the Traders reunion on the Nikki and Bri show when we were at the SiriusXM studios in LA. This was. I mean, this was fun look. We both outfits were so cute. What would you say?
C
I agree. Yeah. I mean, I really love this look. This picture is my favorite out of all the ones I took that day. But I actually thought it was a really fun look. It was like chic and different and edgy.
B
Mine brought in the trader vibes because I had the cape, you know, the built in hoodie. I remember loving the pairing of the boots. And you know me, your girl loves red. So we put this.
C
Should we put this at number two?
B
All right, all right.
C
I know.
B
Oh, I loved this dress. So this was at the upfronts for nbcu.
C
Yes.
B
I remember picking this designer. This dress was just incredible. We had that really fun moment on stage. We just. In New York City afterwards, we painted the town red.
C
We had a lot of fun. But I'm gonna say this. It's not number one for me. So we're gonna have to put it at nine.
B
What? Well, I would put this at one, but I wouldn't.
C
For me.
B
You would put this.
C
You want to gamble? Because we have two.
B
I think we right left.
C
Okay, so we got a gamble.
B
Okay, so if we put this. I'm saying we put this at 1 over 9.
C
I know, but I don't care for my outfit.
B
But you're in the gorgeous polka dot. You have those cute YSLs on. My dress alone deserves to be at number one. But if you want to do nine, I think you look great, by the way.
C
Well, thank you. Okay, let's do one. Whatever. Okay, let's see.
B
We're blind ranking, so.
C
I know. All right, so let's do the last one.
B
Number nine. Yes.
C
I hated these pictures.
B
I am so. So this is Paris. Total Divas, where we're filming in Paris for Total Divas. And they're like, we're gonna go do a marketing shoot, and they're like. And then we're gonna have glam. So my eyelashes. I'm not even joking. She glued them in the middle of my eyes. Remember that Brie on my eyelids?
C
Yeah.
B
And I'm like, what? And she goes, they look fine. And I'm like, you're like an inch off my eyelash line. It. I just remember the makeup was terrible. The hair and then the positioning, like, the outfit, just nothing worked here. I'm so happy. This nine. This would be my 10.
C
It's just I did like that crystal necklace I am wearing. But, yeah. Yeah, this was bad.
B
Which totally, no offense, doesn't go with your outfit. Neither does the shoes. I mean, I look like. And those are your years old in this photo.
C
You do.
B
I don't know.
C
That's hilarious.
B
Yeah. I look like a housewife. I mean, it's just all wrong. This was all wrong. And look at the roses that are, like, randomly put in places.
C
Yeah. I'm happy.
B
The only thing that's good in this photo is the Eiffel Tower, but, like, in the clouds, I mean. And I don't want to be that mean to ourselves, but.
C
Yeah, but still, girl, aren't you happy? I'm very happy. Thank you. That would have. That would have. That could have ruined my day. Just kidding.
B
Good gambler over here. Yeah.
C
Oh, my gosh. All right, Nikki, hit us with some inspiration. Affirmation.
B
Okay, this is just gonna be real quick. It's gonna be more like an affirmation. But being that girl, no one's born her. You build her. Ooh, boom. That's that.
C
I like that.
B
Thank you. So I think that's a great thing to leave off of, is you build your girl, you build your main character in your own story. You don't let things just come to you. You go out and you do it, and you have the potential to do it. So go, builder.
C
Amen to that.
B
Amen. It's kind of like, you know, the baseball movie. You know, if you build it, they will come or whatever that was, you know?
C
Yeah.
B
If you build her, things will come.
C
Filled of dreams.
B
Field of dreams. So let's make it a life of dreams.
C
There you go.
B
Right? All right, well, on that note, everyone make sure to check out Bree's YouTube series. Hi, my name is Bri. Make sure to catch me every Monday night on Netflix on Monday night Raw. Also make sure to like and subscribe share this episode. Thank you guys always for tuning in. We hope you have such an incredible week weekend. Also check out our videos on our YouTube page, Instagram, TikTok, all the social media things. And until next time, go builder Bri. I love you. I hopefully will see you soon.
C
Love you too. Okay. All right, bye everyone.
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B
I've never felt like this before. It's like you just get me. I feel like my true self with you. Does this that sound crazy? And it doesn't hurt that you're gorgeous? Okay, that's it.
C
I'm taking you home with me.
B
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Date: September 1, 2025
Hosts: Nikki & Brie Garcia
Publisher: SiriusXM
This episode of The Nikki & Brie Show delves into what it means to “become ‘that girl’” at any age. Nikki and Brie reflect on how social trends, personal growth, and life experiences shape the concept of “that girl”—shifting it from a status-driven trope to an empowering, authentic way of life. They get candid about their own glow-ups, navigating identity across decades, the importance of self-care, and answer listener questions about life, motivation, and finding balance. The sisters also play a red carpet ranking game and finish with a motivating affirmation.
Social Trend Origins & Evolution
In Your 20s vs. Now
Carrie Bradshaw as ‘That Girl’ Archetype
Grit, Grace & Moments of Arrival
Glow Up Myths vs. Reality
Listener Q&A: Balancing Demanding Careers and Hobbies
Listener Q&A: Advice for Your Younger College Self
Losing & Reclaiming "That Girl"
Parenting, Guilt, and Comebacks
Always Surprising Yourself
On Changing Definitions
On Setting Boundaries and Growth
On Motivation
Affirmation to Close
The tone throughout is casual, warm, funny, and vulnerable—like best friends chatting about “real life.” Quotes and commentary often include laughter, candid admissions, and honest moments about insecurity, boundaries, parenting struggles, and personal triumphs. The language is conversational, peppered with sisterly encouragement and playfulness.
This episode is a heartfelt, empowering conversation about becoming “that girl” at any age—not through external achievement but through authenticity, boundaries, self-care, and choosing to be the lead in your own story. Listeners are left with tools, validation, and the resounding message: “You build her.”
Memorable Final Affirmation:
“Being that girl – no one’s born her, you build her.” – Nikki ([58:03])