
Nikki & Brie keep the Nashville takeover rolling at SiriusXM Studios with rising country-pop star Kat Velasco! Kat opens up about moving to Nashville without knowing anyone, finding her voice through heartbreak, and creating her upcoming album Cowgirl Complex, a messy, honest, unapologetic project about love, friendship breakups, confidence, and finally doing things her way. The trio also talks Broadway nights, hangovers, social media spirals, supportive parents, “suit” boyfriends, and why being a little messy makes the best music. Plus, they play a hilarious round of “Yeehaw or Seek Help.” Press play!
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What up everyone? Okay, welcome back to the Nikki and Bri Show. And yes, we are still here in Nashville, Tennessee at the Sirius XM studios that we want to make our own studios because this has been so much fun. We've just been in heaven. And today we are joined by one of country pop's rising stars.
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From viral fan favorite songs to making
Host (Nikki or Brie)
waves on Spotify and cmt, she is bringing a fresh, honest and unapologetic energy to country music. With new music out right now and her upcoming album Cowgirl Complex on the way. We are so excited to have her here. Everyone, please welcome Kat Velasco.
Co-host
Yeah.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Did I say it right? Yes, you guys, we literally did. Okay everyone, welcome Kat Velasco. It's the Nikki and Brie Show.
Kat Velasco
I'm so excited to be here. I'm obsessed with you guys.
Co-host
Oh my gosh.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Thank you so much. We've been doing a deep dive on you and so I've just have loved everything.
Kat Velasco
That was such a sweet intro. Oh, you're so welcome.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Well, you deserve it.
Co-host
You do deserve it.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
You are just like rising country pop star.
Kat Velasco
I'm just like trying My best out here, you know?
Host (Nikki or Brie)
But you know what? I feel like you're doing it in such a great way.
Nikki
You really are.
Kat Velasco
Thank you.
Co-host
How is it, like, living out here and, you know, with the music world and.
Kat Velasco
Yeah, it's so hard, but it's good. It's like the grind because so many people are doing the same thing. Or like, a hybrid of what you're doing. And so I'm not, like, a competitive person. I'm like. I'm very much like, we all have the same dream, we all have the same goal. Yep.
Co-host
Everyone can have success.
Kat Velasco
Yeah. And everyone's success might look different, but it's just like.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
I don't know.
Kat Velasco
I just feel like since we all have the same dream, don't tear each other down. That's kind of like how I am.
Nikki
Sure.
Kat Velasco
But it is. Not everyone is that way.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
How does, like, a week look like for you?
Kat Velasco
I know every week is different. I mean, I could have, like, I had an interview yesterday and photo shoot yesterday and then interview today, and then I have, like, a bunch of online stuff today. Like, I have to onboard someone on my team, and so that's going to be, like, on my computer. So the next week, I'm traveling and I have a photo shoot for my upcoming song. So it's like, it always looks different, which is like, something I love. Like, I love.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
I cannot have predictable.
Kat Velasco
Yeah. Like, the same thing every single day would drive me insane.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Me too.
Kat Velasco
For sure. Like, it really would.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah. We're not meant for that. You know, we're all artists in different ways.
Kat Velasco
Right.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
And our soul just seeks something so much different. Yeah. You know, that's what makes us creative and fight for the things we want to.
Kat Velasco
Absolutely.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
So growing up, when did you realize, like, oh, shit, I'm a really good singer, and this is, like, something I want to do.
Kat Velasco
I've been singing forever, I think My mom was a vocal major in college, but she had horrible stage fright. So she. She, like, put me and my brother, who's now a professional dancer. Like, he's like. Like a ballerina. Ballerine.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Oh, ballerina.
Kat Velasco
Would you say ballerina? Ballerina.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Ballerina.
Kat Velasco
Ballerina. He's. He's incredible. And he's actually going to Prague this summer and dancing. Like, he's so good. So she put both of us. Cause we both showed an interest in singing and dancing at a young age. And she was like, I don't want them to be nervous. Like, I want them to. So it worked out for the both of us, really. Um, but I Did pageants, which is, like, so not my personality. But I was in South Carolina. Like, what else was I gonna do to sing? Really? And, yeah, I kind of got burnt out for a little bit. And then during COVID I started writing, and that's where I think my confidence came in for. I was like, okay, I could do this, like, in some capacity. And then I made the move, and that was, like, the scariest thing I've ever done. Wow.
Co-host
And were you by yourself? Do you have friends here or.
Kat Velasco
I didn't know anybody. Oh, my God. I moved downtown, and I was like, all right, let's give this thing a go. And, like, it was during the CMAs, and I just remember, like, stalking Instagram and, like, following, like, Kelsey Ballerini's makeup team, and, like, everybody. Like, I was just seeing who the photographers were and videographers and, like, just really grinding because I didn't know anybody. Wow. Yeah.
Co-host
But that's incredible. I feel like it's good to have a humble start like that.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah.
Co-host
You know, gives you grit.
Kat Velasco
Yeah. I was, like, 8 years old in the car with my mom, and I distinctly remember being like, how did you live a normal life? Like, how did you not pursue singing? And she was like, I knew that I had, like, something on my hands. Like, there's something bigger there. Because she was like, I never really. She was like, I just wanted kids and, like, a life like that. And I was like, I just. I don't see my life that way.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
I love that at 8, probably, like,
Kat Velasco
shouldn't be sitting in the front seat. You know what I mean? So, no, it was. Yeah, she was. She'll tell me that all the time. She was like, I remember that moment. And I was like, wow.
Co-host
But that does say a lot, you know, especially that young, like, to feel that.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
I've always felt that you are born with it. There's some things you can't teach.
Kat Velasco
Right.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
But when it comes to being, having it, like, the charisma that wanting all that, like, you are born with. With that.
Co-host
I agree.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
You can't teach that.
Co-host
I do agree with that.
Kat Velasco
Yeah. So you write something. Yeah.
Co-host
You write a lot about heartbreak.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Co-host
So is it all from personal and drunkenness and love? Yeah. Is it all from personal experience?
Kat Velasco
Crazy messy.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
But we love it.
Kat Velasco
A lot of this entire cowgirl complex is all from. From me. I mean. Yeah, unfortunately.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
So it is.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Co-host
So you're in Covid, and.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Co-host
You know, like, all of us, everything stands still. So when you started to write during that time, did you just Start thinking of all the things. Like, did you go through a breakup during COVID Yeah.
Kat Velasco
I was like, I can't believe I'm still living in my hometown. I can't believe I'm, like, working in finance for my dad. Like, I. I just couldn't believe I was like, I'm gonna move to New York, and I'm either gonna do fashion or, like, something. Like, I was, like, always. I always just saw something bigger for me. Not that, like, there's anything wrong with that. I just had that moment where I was like, what is happening? I mean, I think all of us in covert were like, what is happening? But, like, sure. And I was journaling a lot at that point because I was going through a breakup. So I was like. It was, like, a really hard one to do. It was like, my first love breakup. That is hard. It was. It was rough. So I. That song just, like, came out, like, flowed out of me. And I. I took a while to show my parents because I knew that they were going to be like, all right, we're going to record this. Yeah. Because this has always been their dream for me, so they've been super supportive. I know.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Supportive parents change everything.
Nikki
They change everything.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
You know what I mean?
Kat Velasco
It's crazy.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah.
Kat Velasco
It's like, I'll call my dad, and he'll. He'll be like, I'll rant for, like, 15 minutes, and then he'll be like, just keep making good music. And I'll be like, is that all you have to say? But at the end of the day, it's, like, so calming. It's like, really? That's all I'm here to do is, like, keep making music and.
Co-host
Yeah, well, and he knows what you need to hear.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Co-host
Because he's your dad, so he knows, like, the right words to keep you motivated. And they. One, like, you said, the calming part. But also, like, I do feel like parents, like, you know, well, because they've been through it.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Like, you know, I mean, we're parents, so we know, too. Like, we've been through this crazy journey at life. So it's like when you see someone start to go through those beginning years of it, you're like, just make good music, because you're gonna come out so great. You know what I mean? Like, they know there's, like, someone out there for you. Probably won't meet them for a decade.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
So. But, you know, so when you got more breakups and write good music.
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When they listen to your songs, like are they ever like. I mean they're like is this personal like. Or like how do they know it?
Host (Nikki or Brie)
They. I'm sure they know it.
Kat Velasco
Yeah, they know and they're just like, they're just so proud. Yeah. I mean they've watched it evolve over time too. And from really, really trying to get to know people in the industry and like seeing some of like some of my songs or other people's songs that they wrote. So now just having like a full album of just all of my experience and some of it's not breakup. Some of it's like girl breakup, like girlfriend breakup stuff. Like yeah, there's a song on the album called Too Much and it's like about like me and one of my good girlfriends here like not being friends anymore and because I felt like I was like, too much for her and. But, like, you could interpret it as a breakup if, like, that's how you feel. You know what I mean? It's kind of just, like, up to your interpretation, but, like, majority of it is, like, all from just experience.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Do you have a favorite on the album, Cowgirl Complex?
Nikki
Yes.
Kat Velasco
Yeah, it's coming out soon.
Co-host
Oh, wow. I can't wait.
Kat Velasco
It'll be June.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
June.
Kat Velasco
Okay.
Co-host
It's gonna be all our new anthem.
Kat Velasco
I think so.
Co-host
Yes.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yes.
Co-host
It's gonna be the summer. It's. Do we still call it Hot Girl Summer?
Kat Velasco
I feel like we can.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Well, you know, it's gonna. It's gonna be like, our complex type of stuff.
Co-host
You always gotta have some.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Some are gonna have too much summer.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
There'll be a lot of girlfriend breakups. Always.
Kat Velasco
Yeah. It's about, like, freedom and just being who you are. I mean, that's really what I've learned is just. I mean, there's just so many ways you could go.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah.
Kat Velasco
You know, I feel like you guys know that for sure. Like, there's so many ways you can go, and it would be so easy to, like, pretend to be something you're not. But if. I mean, I feel like it's. The hardest thing is just, like, really to be yourself. And this album is, like, fully me, so as messy as it is, it's
Host (Nikki or Brie)
like, we love a mess.
Co-host
I'm.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Messes are good.
Co-host
No, everyone's messy, though.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Well, that's what I mean. We all connect with messes because that's just life. Like life is. And when people retire, they're not messy. I was about to say so. You've grown such a strong audience online. How, like, what has been the craziest or coolest moment where you realize that people were really connecting to your music?
Kat Velasco
Oh, my gosh. There's so many. I mean, literally every time I put out a song or someone is, like, lip singing my song, like. Like the. Like, them knowing the words to my songs, I feel like, is just crazy.
Co-host
Oh, my gosh.
Kat Velasco
Even playing a show and just seeing people singing mice. Like, it's just like the dream job. It's like the feeling. It's just like the warmest feeling ever of just like, wow, I wrote this, like, with one other person or, like, by myself, like on a porch swing or something. You know what I mean? And someone now knows the words and loves it. But, yeah, I feel like online is. It's been good for me. I mean, I feel like definitely my family's been like, come on, like, do you have to. My friends would say, I treat my Instagram story like how Snapchat you stories used to be. Like, how. It's just, like, really long. I would just, like, post everything. Yeah. Because I just want to be as authentic as I can and as honest as I am. And, I mean, probably shouldn't, like, post, like, where I live, you know.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Oh, yeah, let's not do that.
Kat Velasco
But other than that, it's like. Yeah, I just want to connect. I think that's it. I mean, when someone connects with a song or they tell me, like, this song helped them get through something, it's just all of it's. All of it is all about connection. Really is.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
It's all about. It really is now the foundation.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Co-host
Do you know, is it hard dating being so open? Because do you feel like guys are kind of scared of that?
Kat Velasco
I actually am in a relationship.
Co-host
Oh, you are?
Kat Velasco
Okay. Yeah.
Co-host
So boyfriend?
Kat Velasco
Boyfriend.
Co-host
Oh, my gosh. How long?
Kat Velasco
Almost three years. Okay. He's, like, super chill, doesn't like the spotlight, and it's like, oh, that's so nice.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah. He's like, it's nice when a queen has that.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
You know, sometimes when it's a queen and a king, there can be a battle.
Kat Velasco
Yeah. So here they call, like, people who are in the industry suits. Have you heard that?
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Really?
Kat Velasco
No. Yeah.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Is that just a country thing or, like, anything?
Kat Velasco
I think it's just an industry thing. I didn't know. I'm, like, just now learning this, but my boyfriend works in medical sales, and I'm like, I'm not calling him a scrub.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Like, yeah, no, you can't do that.
Co-host
So he's a suit.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Co-host
That's amazing.
Kat Velasco
Okay, so he, like, has, like. I don't understand his job. He doesn't understand mine, but it's like, we just live, but it works.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
I love that.
Co-host
And he's so supportive.
Kat Velasco
He's at every show. Yeah.
Co-host
Oh, my gosh.
Kat Velasco
Yeah. A good one. I love that so far. We'll see. You know what I mean? Sometimes they get surprised.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
They can.
Co-host
And then you'll just have to write
Host (Nikki or Brie)
an album about it, you know?
Co-host
What does he say about your song? What does he ever. Is he ever. Like, is that about me?
Kat Velasco
Yeah, for sure. I bet, like, you're drunk. My most recent release was, like, some. Some influence from him. Like, he came home late one time, and I was like, I have a writing session tomorrow.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
You're in trouble.
Co-host
Oh, my gosh.
Kat Velasco
So his friends, like, make fun of me. You're drunk. And, like, not all of it is about, like, I'll pull from different.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Right.
Kat Velasco
Really shitty relationships. But, like, he was like, definitely, like, he helped out with that one.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
I love it. That's a great song.
Co-host
We were listening to that.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
When we all connect that, let me tell you.
Nikki
Yeah.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Now, you have said that your track Show Pony was a turning point for you. What changed creatively or personally during that time?
Kat Velasco
I feel like that was, like, the biggest moment for me so far. I mean, I'm putting out my first album as an independent artist, which is. Wow. It's kind of crazy. And I feel like I've lived. I feel like. Like, you guys. Like, I've lived a lot of lives.
Co-host
Yeah.
Kat Velasco
Like, the pageant stuff. Like, I did, like, musical theater for a while, and there's just, like, so much that people be like, wait, really? Like, you did not. So Show Pony is really the turning point of, like, I'm no longer performing for other people's expectations. Like, I'm a western pop artist. Like, that's very different. I'm nothing like anyone that. That you see. Like, all of us are different, you know? And I really just, like, wanted to hone in on that and be like, I'm done being a show pony. Like, I'm done. That's why I wanted that to be the first track of the album. It's like, I just.
Co-host
Just.
Kat Velasco
I just needed to say it and put it out there and be like, I'm done. And everything else you get is. Is messy and unapologetic, and that's just what it is.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
It is what it is.
Co-host
But I love that you found that, because I feel like it takes us a while to have that confidence and to be, you know, like, in that era of our life. And so I love that you have found that early on.
Kat Velasco
Yeah, no, I feel. I feel really grateful to have found that early and just to have found my outlet and passion at an early age, too. Yeah. That's huge.
Co-host
Totally.
Kat Velasco
I couldn't imagine, like, not having music. I don't know what I would do.
Co-host
Yeah.
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So then that I should quit drinking, which is one of your newest tracks. Another one that we were listening to a lot. Where'd that come from?
Kat Velasco
So Johnny Gates, I wrote this whole album with him and this one was like. Has a little bit of influence from just being hungover.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Damn. Like us yesterday. I mean, go to Broadway.
Kat Velasco
Oh, my gosh. I know.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
I saw it until 3am What? That wasn't last night. The night before last night, we asked our main greets.
Kat Velasco
Oh, that was.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Have to go back. But that was Tuesday night.
Kat Velasco
Where'd you guys go? James?
Co-host
No.
Brie
Richard.
Kat Velasco
No. Robbie. There's so many. Robert Roberts, Western World.
Co-host
Oh, yeah, Robert's Western World.
Kat Velasco
That's the best.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
The best we had.
Co-host
But that's what happens live country music, the booze, the energy of everyone. You know what her and I were saying? No one was like, on their phones. People, they were into the music.
Kat Velasco
That's so true. Yes.
Nikki
It's such a great vibe.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
And you don't feel that wants to come to Nashville, but especially there.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah. I was trying to be the responsible one and I literally get an Uber because at this point, it was like almost 1am and I'm like, girl, we gotta. We gotta go.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
So as a group of us are walking to the Uber, she runs into tootsies, does a little like, catch me.
Kat Velasco
You just dove in there. I was like, you guys are fine
Host (Nikki or Brie)
that we couldn't leave her. You never leave a man behind, everyone. You never.
Kat Velasco
Wait. I feel like my mom's done that on Broadway before.
Co-host
Oh, yeah.
Kat Velasco
She loves live music so much.
Co-host
Like, see, that's me. It gets me going.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Co-host
It's like where I get all my energy.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
It's like taking a red.
Nikki
Yeah.
Kat Velasco
It's like, she's so fun. So But I walked into that writing session with Johnny, and we were, like, super hungover.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Oh, my God.
Kat Velasco
I'm pretty sure we had gone to Broadway, which. I love going to Broadway, but I just know what I'm gonna get, you know? Right? Like, I know I'm gonna. Like, the next day is gonna be, like, awful. Just not happening.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Tequila and bad headaches.
Kat Velasco
Yes. It's like, the same thing as Midtown. Like, I just. I know I'm gonna. I'm not gonna want to have the gold. The night. It's like. It's. Midtown's, like, a little bit off Broadway. Okay. Yeah, but I mean, the gulch, too. I mean, Jesus. Fun.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
So many spots.
Co-host
And is Midtown, like, live music, too?
Kat Velasco
It's like losers, and that's where they're
Co-host
telling us to go. The other day, we ate at Barcelona.
Kat Velasco
Okay.
Co-host
Yeah. Telling us to go to losers.
Kat Velasco
Yeah. So, like, Losers and, like, Duck Blinds. Like, Riley Green's bar is over there. It's fun, too.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Oh, nice.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
We'll have to check this out next time.
Kat Velasco
So a lot of fun spots.
Co-host
So if there's someone you could go on tour with, who would it be?
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Oh, yeah.
Kat Velasco
Oh, my gosh. So many people. I would say Jelly Roll would be fun.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Oh, love Jelly Roll.
Kat Velasco
Morgan Wallins would be amazing.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah.
Kat Velasco
But, I mean, I feel like right now, Ella Langley would be amazing. I would love to, like, just be around her. She seems really fun.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
No, I think.
Co-host
Yeah, you guys would actually.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
You guys would actually have great vibes,
Nikki
like, a great job.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Like, same demo. Like, everyone would love that.
Co-host
We got to put that together well.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
And honestly, you're listening. Do it well, you know? And the one thing that I really liked when I was listening to your music, it's the sound. And I do feel like you have a little bit of, like, a Stevie Nicks, like, kind of energy in your music, for sure.
Kat Velasco
Thank you.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
And it's very, like, you have a
Co-host
very sultry, like, emotional voice.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah. Strong, but soft.
Co-host
Yeah.
Kat Velasco
Wait, that's.
Co-host
It's sultry.
Kat Velasco
It's like. That's what I'm going for.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Okay.
Kat Velasco
Like, literally right there is what I'm going for. Yeah.
Co-host
Well, that's the.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
You give us all of that, which I love.
Kat Velasco
Like, Rumors, like Fleetwood Mac. You know that album?
Co-host
Oh, yes.
Kat Velasco
My favorite.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
I mean, that album. I mean, the best.
Kat Velasco
I'm like. If I could even just get, like, a fraction close.
Nikki
Yeah.
Kat Velasco
Like, in. I feel like, the country worlds and make it because, like, I grew up South Carolina, and I'm like. I'm a Country girl for sure. But, you know, it's. I still love all those influences and, like, the dreaminess of, like, Lana Del Rey and, like.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah.
Kat Velasco
Miley Cyrus, like, rock edgy, you know, it's like there's so many influences, but Stevie Nicks is, like, my number one.
Co-host
Yeah.
Brie
She.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Would you say she's like, the main woman that has helped shape you into what you're doing. I love that.
Kat Velasco
That's awesome.
Co-host
Well, you're on the right path.
Kat Velasco
Thank you.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
You know who else, too, I think kind of fits that category, but tell me if I'm wrong is Casey Musgraves, too. She has that, like, dreamy, different sound. Me too.
Kat Velasco
And she's so honest in her lyrics. Like, I think that's what I've pulled from her. Like, a good bet is totally. She's just so honest, and we'll talk about whatever.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah.
Co-host
And we all love.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Totally. I just feel like the more raw and real people are, the more people connect.
Kat Velasco
Yes.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
You know, for sure, when people try to make it, like, you gotta put
Kat Velasco
it all out there.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
You got to put it all out there.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
If we want to be here. It's the good, the bad, and the
Kat Velasco
ugly, and people want the ugly.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Let me tell you.
Kat Velasco
People want ugly.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yes. People be better. Like, we used to watch scenes back. I'm like, okay, so everyone else is better. I just made the mistakes so they can learn.
Kat Velasco
Wait, do you guys still watch scenes back?
Co-host
I'll see sometimes on social media, and I'll be like, what the.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Oh, gosh. I'm like, how many times I need to see myself cry. Miss one drunk.
Co-host
Yeah, I should open up a bar down here on Broadway. Brie mode.
Kat Velasco
That's actually.
Co-host
Imagine.
Kat Velasco
You should do it, so it'd be good.
Co-host
I say we play a game.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah, we play a game. One more question, then we play again. Okay. Wrapping up, like, your. Your album, your singles coming out. What do you hope? Women and men, too. Like, what do you hope they feel when they listen?
Kat Velasco
Well, like I said earlier, just connection. And I hope they feel seen and heard.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Okay.
Kat Velasco
You know, I just think very seen and heard. There's a lot of heartbreak in country music. And, like, sometimes it's okay if, like, you're the one doing the heartbreaking. You know what I mean? There's gonna be a lot of evolution in this album where you're gonna see kind of me grow as, like, confidence and just things that I've been through where I've. That have gotten me to this point. So I hope people just really Just connect with it and feel it and can relate somehow in their life.
Co-host
I love that.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah, it's amazing.
Co-host
My gosh, drop the album now.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
I need to hear this whole darn June, Hurry up. You know, slow down, but hurry up.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Co-host
Okay, Nick.
Nikki
You know, summer's coming up, which means a lot of fun things are going on.
Co-host
I feel like from our family reunion to different wine events.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
I mean, there's so many events, and
Co-host
I feel like we always want to
Nikki
have a new look for each one of us.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
All of a sudden, summer comes and every weekend feels like it's booked.
Brie
So, you know, you could spend hundreds of dollars on guest looks, right? Or you could rent your clothes for newly for just $98.
Co-host
Ooh. I mean, you see a new trend on your timeline and you want to try it out.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
I mean, yeah, let's just say you want to get a little romantic boho or be like me and get some
Brie
sporty jerseys or, hey, we're going on a yacht. Let's look like we're part of the yacht club.
Nikki
I mean, yes, you could buy every micro trend that you might end up. Ha.
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Co-host
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Nikki
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Co-host
But we were like, can we really talk about living our lives?
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Co-host
All right, so we're gonna play a game called Yeehaw or seek help.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Oh.
Co-host
So this game of Yihan, Seek help. We've got a few scenarios, and we want to know if your game. Yeehaw. Or if it's too problematic for you. Seek help.
Kat Velasco
Okay. Yeehaw. Seek help.
Co-host
Yep. So the first one, changing your hair after a breakup.
Nikki
Yeehaw.
Co-host
Or seek help.
Kat Velasco
Yeehaw.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
I'm so. Yeehaw.
Kat Velasco
That's fair.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yes, I agree.
Co-host
Change.
Nikki
Change.
Kat Velasco
I mean, if you want, like, if. If you need that, like, absolutely. I've done it.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
I mean, makes you feel damn good. For sure. Yeah. I'm like, I don't want to look
Kat Velasco
like how I look looked when I was with Batman. Right.
Co-host
Yeah, totally. Show him, like, too, like.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Co-host
I want to be new.
Kat Velasco
Yeah. Oh, you know that look you always
Host (Nikki or Brie)
wanted me to have? Well, guess what? Here it is. Honestly, that's the revenge cut. Yeah.
Co-host
All right, number two, flirting just for the plot.
Kat Velasco
Yeehaw.
Co-host
Yeah.
Kat Velasco
Yeah, I agree.
Co-host
I feel like some people would say seek help, but I disagree with that.
Kat Velasco
I'm like, get us free drinks.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah.
Kat Velasco
You know what I mean?
Host (Nikki or Brie)
As in, we. We put up with enough as women. So. Right.
Brie
If we need to flirt for the
Host (Nikki or Brie)
plot, well, then give me a yee haw. Yee haw.
Kat Velasco
You know what I mean?
Co-host
And I think if I'm flirting with you, you're getting a little something out of it too.
Kat Velasco
Yeah. You're also having fun.
Co-host
Yeah.
Kat Velasco
You're enjoying it.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Just buy me a drink. Doesn't mean I have to jump in the haystack with you.
Kat Velasco
No. Right.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
You know, keep the puns on.
Co-host
All right, number three, posting a selfie specifically for one person to see how.
Kat Velasco
That's what I feel like. See how.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Okay, this is how, though.
Kat Velasco
This is like, what platform are we posting it on?
Host (Nikki or Brie)
How Tom Brady did the one. Did you see that? That went viral. Like, he posted a few, like, selfies on his couch.
Co-host
Like, on the feed or in the stories.
Brie
Stories.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
But everyone's like, that was definitely to get someone's attention. Like, and that's like, help. Well, people were, like, cringed out because they felt like he should have, like, just next time text it to that person.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
But then I don't know if this is, like, my age. There's a part of me that's like, yeehaw. Because I'm like, well, they want, like, to look good and like, that person. Tension. Like, post a selfie. Like, thirst. But I don't know, maybe that.
Kat Velasco
How was the quality? And was this, like, before, after his veneers?
Host (Nikki or Brie)
So this was. I. We all are like.
Kat Velasco
Because those things are blinding.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
It was, like, recent.
Kat Velasco
Oh, you think it was for Alex?
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Earl, that's what we are all thinking. That's what the world was thinking.
Kat Velasco
I'm like, buddy, you really could have texted her that.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah, it's.
Co-host
It was a little weird, but. Or did he do it because he wanted. If he. They stopped talking. He wanted her to see what she doesn't have anymore.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
I mean, I guess for me, I wouldn't.
Kat Velasco
The couch is crazy, though.
Co-host
And it was very, like, sleepy.
Kat Velasco
Like, like, wish you were here.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
I. Oh, gosh. I'm like, embarrass.
Co-host
My girls do that.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
I'd be like, okay, Yeah, I guess for that, I wouldn't. I'm not a yeehaw to that, but I'm a yeehaw for a thirst trap. Like, if I need to feel good about myself and I post, like, a sexy selfie.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Not for one. For a ton.
Kat Velasco
Like, you know, like, if it looks accidental. Yeah. Like, see how help. Totally. You know what I mean? If you text one of your friends and you're like, wait, did you mean to post this?
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah, right? Yeah, for sure.
Co-host
Wearing an outfit once and retiring it. Because Instagram already saw it.
Kat Velasco
Oh, my gosh. I'm so guilty. So yeehaw. No, I'm guilty of this. Retiring it.
Co-host
Like, but as for good, you never wear it again.
Kat Velasco
Is that what you mean? Okay, seek help, because I would wear it. I just. Just probably wouldn't post it. Yeah.
Co-host
But also, then we could also post performing. Like, if you do performances, and I get that, but if you're not performing,
Host (Nikki or Brie)
I think it's cool to show eco. Like, hey, guys, upcycle, upcycle, reuse, recycle, re. Something. There's another re. Right?
Kat Velasco
You know, rewear, Right?
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Rewear, rewind, reinvent. I don't know.
Co-host
Right.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Co-host
Oh, my goodness. All right. Checking if you viewed your Instagram story within 30 seconds.
Kat Velasco
Seek out. Yeah, that's a little bit.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
That is, like, too much.
Kat Velasco
When I see my. When I see my friends or people checking, like, who's viewing their story. Like, I don't.
Co-host
I don't.
Kat Velasco
Like, I don't really do that in general.
Co-host
Yeah, I don't do that either. I didn't actually know you could do it. It until I saw someone doing it one time and I was like, what is that?
Host (Nikki or Brie)
I just. I remember the first time then someone showed me that. I go, I had no idea. Never hit the other button on a story or like, whatever.
Kat Velasco
Just I'm like, really trying not to do that. Because then I'm like thinking about them saying it from their perspective. I'm like, why am I even doing that?
Host (Nikki or Brie)
It changes who you are.
Kat Velasco
It's like, do you.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah, just you people tune in. Great. Even if it's.
Co-host
It's.
Kat Velasco
I'm posting, dude. But like, whatever.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
And don't be owned by like, what a guy or girl wants to see. You know what I mean? Especially if it's someone who's not giving you a chance.
Kat Velasco
Yeah. Like, if they're not looking at it in 30 seconds, like, it's a problem.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Bye.
Co-host
Yeah, we got a. That person has to seek help. And we'll take you to Broadway so you can get some drinks.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Go to Robbie Roberts.
Kat Velasco
Absolutely.
Co-host
Because that phone will be put away, let me tell you.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah, okay.
Co-host
Going out just for one drink and ending up at honky tonk at 2:00am
Host (Nikki or Brie)
well, baby, do you know what I mean? When in Nashville.
Co-host
I mean, sounds like my scenario.
Kat Velasco
Broadway sounds like my weekend. Yeah. You know.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Well, the thing is, what happens is you're going. You're about to leave at 2am and then they're playing like the major hits. You know, how to closing songs. And then you're like, well, I mean, we even playing Spice Girls.
Kat Velasco
Yeah. I mean, you literally guitars and you're like, shit. And every floor is like, for someone.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah.
Kat Velasco
You know what I mean? Like, if you go to like Jason Aldean's, it's like. It's like music, like, full band. And then you can go upstairs and you can dance, like swing dance. And you go. And then you go, there's a dj. Like, there's just something to keep you there forever.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
And they do all that damn cute merch. It's like, yes, there is cute. There's cute merch. Oh, Red. Like, the sparkle jacket Brie got yesterday is like so damn cute.
Kat Velasco
I gotta see that.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
It's. I can't believe. Like, to me, shout out to Red. It was insane.
Co-host
I feel like it's very Gwen inspired.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah.
Co-host
And you know, we forgot our wine glasses.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
We'll text and get them.
Kat Velasco
You gotta get those.
Co-host
We gotta get those.
Kat Velasco
You gotta get those.
Co-host
Okay. Falling in love with someone's potential instead of reality.
Kat Velasco
Oh, see how I'm. But I don't know. No, it happens all the time.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
But for sure, though, right? We all do it. But, like, yeah, if someone could tell me, like, right in the beginning, oh, seek help, babe. Like, that's not gonna be great. Because when you fall in love with someone's potential, they never hit it.
Co-host
Right.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
No, it's what we hope.
Kat Velasco
Their resume sucks.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah.
Kat Velasco
You know, that's really what it is. Like, your resume was.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah.
Kat Velasco
Really bad. Or.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
I mean, it was great, but it's great sad sex. And then you fall with the potential of everything else.
Kat Velasco
Yeah, but I've fallen in love with potential. Like, a lot.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Me, too.
Co-host
Well, and what happens, too, is when you get comfortable in a relationship because you start to think of, like, everything that goes into a breakup and.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah.
Co-host
But maybe this person will change.
Kat Velasco
You're like, oh, maybe it's not that bad.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah, right.
Kat Velasco
Maybe they're not that bad.
Co-host
Yeah.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah.
Kat Velasco
But really, they, like, really suck.
Co-host
Oh, my gosh, Kat, we love so much that you came to see us.
Kat Velasco
Thank you so much for having me.
Co-host
Nikki and I always end our shows a little. Introduced. Inspiration, affirmation. Is there a quote or motto that you live by?
Kat Velasco
Oh, my gosh. I don't know. Or.
Co-host
Or a song.
Kat Velasco
I'm always like, do you. Do you. That's really my. Do you, boo. Yeah. I love, love it. I don't know if that's cliche, but, like, do you?
Host (Nikki or Brie)
No, not at all. Sometimes I feel like the most simple, whether it's affirmation or quote, are the most powerful. Like, sometimes you just need to hear a few words. Do you?
Kat Velasco
Yeah. Just do you? And who cares?
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Don't look at the IG stories.
Co-host
Don't look at.
Kat Velasco
Don't. Don't do it. Just.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah.
Co-host
Well, in a world where constantly people are feeling they have to be somebody or they're comparing themselves with all these social media platforms.
Nikki
Yes.
Co-host
No.
Kat Velasco
Right. Just you. Yeah. And, like, that's the true star in your life. Yeah.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yeah.
Kat Velasco
You don't have to scroll all the time. You know what I mean? It's like, just. Do you.
Co-host
Do you agree?
Kat Velasco
Oh, my gosh.
Co-host
Next time we come. We're doing a Broadway night.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
We're doing a Broadway night. I wish I would hydrate.
Co-host
We'll get our IVs, and then.
Kat Velasco
Yeah.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Yes.
Kat Velasco
Wait. We'll have so much fun. And I'll probably be running into bars with you, so we don't. Oh, good.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Thank you. We'll be holding the Ubers. Yeah. All right, everyone make sure to check out Kat's new album dropping in June, cowgirl complex. And also check her out on Instagram at Cat Velasquez.
Co-host
Velasco.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Like that's a minute at Cat Velasco Music. Did I say it wrong? Still? Oh, my God. I have a cowgirls complex right now, y'. All. And then also check out videos on the Nicki and Brie show IG page, tick tock Facebook of this episode. Also SiriusXM 109 stars. And call us at 8 through 3. Garcia 2, tell us what you think about this interview. Hey, the songs that you're about to go download in here, just keep in touch. Kat, again, thank you so much.
Kat Velasco
You guys are so fun.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Oh, my gosh.
Kat Velasco
Thank you so much.
Host (Nikki or Brie)
Bye.
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Air Date: May 21, 2026
Location: Nashville, SiriusXM Studios
Guest: Kat Velasco (rising country-pop artist)
This Nashville Takeover episode features Nikki and Brie Garcia welcoming country-pop sensation Kat Velasco. Kat, known for her viral tracks, fresh honesty, and upcoming album “Cowgirl Complex”, shares her journey, the realities of pursuing music in Nashville, and the stories behind her songs. The conversation flows with laughter, authenticity, and candid advice, making it feel like catching up with your closest friends over drinks. The episode also features a playful “Yeehaw or Seek Help” game, covering relationship drama, social media confessions, and the power of creative expression.
Roots in Performance:
Moves & Motivation:
Writing From Experience:
The Pandemic Catalyst:
Being Real Online:
Impactful Moments:
Personal Experiences:
Favorite Tracks & Album Vision:
Turning Point – “Show Pony”:
Independence:
Musical Influences:
Artistic Identity:
On drive & courage:
On creative authenticity:
On being messy:
On the power of music:
On the music industry lingo:
On their playful side:
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| Time | Topic | |----------|------------| | 01:42 | Main episode intro & welcome for Kat Velasco | | 04:28 | Kat’s musical beginnings and family background | | 05:36 | Moving to Nashville, starting her career solo | | 07:41 | Writing music during Covid & the beginnings of her album | | 11:31 | Discussing songwriting inspiration & authenticity | | 12:31 | Album favorites and what “Cowgirl Complex” is about | | 14:10 | Meaningful fan moments & staying authentic online | | 15:24 | On dating, relationships, and using life as song material | | 17:26 | The significance of “Show Pony” and creative turning point | | 26:36 | Musical influences (Stevie Nicks, Kacey Musgraves, etc) | | 33:00 | “Yeehaw or Seek Help” game starts | | 40:31 | Kat’s personal affirmation: “Do you, boo.” |
This episode delivers all the signature Nikki & Brie warmth and humor while giving listeners a vulnerable and inspiring look inside Kat Velasco’s artistic journey. Kat opens up about using heartbreak (romantic and platonic), personal growth, and self-expression to fuel her creative work. The central theme—embrace your mess, be yourself, and find connection—is both empowering and relatable. The playful Yeehaw or Seek Help game ties in the real-life themes of relationships, breakups, and the sometimes absurd pressure of social media, rounding out an episode that is at once light, real, and inspiring.