Our First Curious Convo of 2026!

Summary

The Nikki & Brie Show

Episode: Our First Curious Convo of 2026!

Date: January 22, 2026
Hosts: Nikki & Brie Garcia
Producer: SiriusXM

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Episode Overview

This episode marks Nikki & Brie’s return to their signature “Curious Conversations” format for 2026. With their trademark humor and candor, the sisters dive into impromptu, thought-provoking questions for each other. They riff on everything from society’s unwritten rules to childhood nostalgia, parental honesty, “balance,” insurance frustrations, and the existential questions of curious kids. The episode is bubbly, light-hearted, and conversational, blending real-life wisdom with the sisters’ playful sibling dynamic.

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Key Discussion Points & Highlights

1. Reintroducing Curious Conversations

• Nikki and Brie explain the concept: no prepared questions, just spontaneous, honest queries and reactions.
• Brie reflects, “Kind of feels like it’s a little off Bella Brains.” (01:25)

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2. Society’s Unspoken Rules

• Nikki’s Curious Q: “What is a rule in society that no one really follows but we all agree exist?” (01:56)

  • Brie: Highlights how we don’t protect essential resources like trees and bees, despite their critical importance for survival (02:05-03:13).
    • “If we keep cutting down the Amazon, we’re going to screw ourselves. But for some reason, there’s no logic there.” – Brie (02:07)
  • Nikki & Brie riff on the dangers of losing bees, wasps, and the imbalance of killing pollinators.

• Jaywalking: Where’s the Name From?

  • Nikki and Brie wonder about the word’s origin, dive into a Google search, and learn it was a city-slang term to mock “naive” rural folks, later co-opted by the auto industry in the 1920s.
  • Notable moment:
    • Nikki: “So jaywalking is called that because Jay was slang for a naive, not native country person...” (04:33)
    • They decide maybe it’s time to call it something else—“No Idiot Walking?” Brie jokes. (06:04)
    • Both sisters riff on how companies shifted blame to pedestrians:
      • Nikki: “GMC was gonna make sure it was his fault. Just kidding.” (05:30)

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3. Protecting Your Peace Online

• Brie’s Question: “Is protecting your peace online a selfish act or a necessary one?” (06:50)
  • Nikki: “Beyond necessary. There’s not even a curious conversation about that.” (07:00)
  • The duo briefly share agreement and shift gears.

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4. Life Skills: What We’re Never Really Taught

• Nikki: “What’s a life skill we’re all expected to know, but no one actually taught us?” (07:16)
  • Brie: “Your checkbook, how to write a check, how to balance your check and account. Those are all surprises. Utility bills. Nobody told me about that in high school.” (07:35)
    • Nikki adds basics like how much water to drink, the Heimlich maneuver, and changing a tire—life skills left out of the curriculum (07:55-08:22).

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5. Insurance Frustrations

• Brie: “Why does homeowners insurance kick you off for fire insurance if you live in an area that has fires?” (10:12)
  • Nikki: “Because they don’t want to pay for it. They want your house to burn and they don’t want to pay for it.” (10:33)
  • The hosts vent about insurance companies avoiding responsibility and compare it to health insurance surprises.
    • Nikki: “How do fake titties cost less than this?” (11:06)

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6. Existential Kid Questions

• Buddy’s Deep Thought: “Who created outer space?” (13:00)
  • Brie shares how her son Buddy asked about God, the Big Bang, and where heaven is.
  • Nikki: “I believe… God being like, boom, let’s start life.” (14:01)
  • Swap stories about the differences between religious and scientific worldviews, Brie’s lack of interest in the Big Bang Theory TV show and concept, and how her dyslexia influences conversation mix-ups.

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7. Flat Earth & Astronaut Perspective

• Bri asks Nikki if she believes the Earth is round, joking about flat Earthers.
  • Nikki: “We literally have photographs from space and clearly the Earth looks round.” (16:00)
  • Brie shares a story about an astronaut who observed Earth’s unity from space: “…when you look at it, it just—it’s a planet…you don’t see the drawings of what we all know…that’s why there should be unity.” (16:46)

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8. Collective Overreactions

• Nikki asks: “Do you think there’s something that we collectively overreact to in the world?” (17:40)
  • Brie: “I feel like we overreact over the way we’re all judged.” (17:55)
  • They touch on the lack of empathy and misunderstanding in society, looping back to the “jaywalking” anecdote.

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9. Childhood vs. Adult Stress

• Nikki: “What’s something that used to feel exciting as a kid, but now is just stressful?” (21:38)
  • Brie: “Holidays. For me, holidays, for sure.” (21:48)
  • Even games like tag feel more exhausting as a parent!

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10. The Illusion of “Balance”

• Brie: “Is chasing balance realistic, or something we’re always adjusting?” (22:20)
  • Nikki: “Chasing balance, always something we’re chasing. I feel like that’s been on my New Year’s resolution list for like five, six years, maybe longer.” (22:27)
  • Both agree: life is always changing, so balance is about adapting priorities, not reaching a static state.

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11. The Pull of Nostalgia

• Brie: “Why are so many people drawn to nostalgia right now?” (24:59)
  • Nikki: “Because we’re missing life before social media and Internet and these phones…our brains really took in things…that’s why nostalgia has become such a big thing.” (25:11-26:49)
  • Brie: “Why are we effing everything up?” (26:51)
  • Nikki references studies about memory retention pre- and post-digital era, and how millennials look younger thanks to less early “screen light.”

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12. Game: Why or Why Not?

Segment starts 28:39.

• Nikki & Brie take turns on scenarios, answering “why or why not?” and expanding:
  • More Family Trips?
    • Brie: “Why not. But more road trips, less flying.” (29:04)
  • Canceling Plans to Stay Home?
    • Nikki: “That means your soul is calling some rest. So I say, why not?” (29:45)
    • Brie has been intentionally reading instead of TV.
  • Learning a New Skill for Fun?
    • Brie: “Why not? If you have time. Don’t stress yourself out.” (30:48)
    • Both agree on brain benefits; Brie hopes to take a pottery class.
  • Waking Up an Hour Earlier?
    • Nikki: “Yes. Why not get it done?... once you get into that flow... it’s so much better in life.” (31:33)
  • Trusting Timing Instead of Forcing Outcomes?
    • Brie: “I believe in timing. Timing’s everything. So I say, why not?... every time it came at the right time, even if I desired it before…” (32:27)
  • Letting Your Kids See You Mess Up and Own It?
    • Brie: “They need to know you’re not perfect so they don’t feel like they have to be perfect…” (33:11-34:09)
  • Googling Yourself?
    • Brie: “No, don’t do that!” (34:35)

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13. Notable Sisterly Banter & Quotes

• On Jaywalking’s origin:
  “Poor Jay. Poor Jay. Well, at least we were right.” – Nikki (05:57)

• On balance:
  “I just started to realize I stress myself out trying to find balance when I truly don’t think balance exists.” – Nikki (23:43)

• On digital overload & nostalgia:
  “Because we’re missing life before social media and Internet and these phones…our brains really took in things…” – Nikki (25:11)

• On collective judgment:
  “I know not everyone’s gonna love me…I think sometimes we all overreact because…” – Brie (18:11-18:27)

• On apologies as parents:
  “The first thing I do is I apologize. I’m sorry, guys. Mommy’s had a really hard day.” – Brie (33:28)

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14. Inspirational Send-Off

• Brie reads a quote about the power of kindness, smiling, and words:
  "The world needs more kindness, so don’t underestimate the power of your smile, your words, or your actions." (38:26)

  • Nikki adds: “A smile literally can change someone’s life for sure and for sure change someone’s day.” (39:05)

• They end with TV show recommendations, particularly loving the Netflix series “Leanne,” and joke about getting the comedian on the podcast.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:49 — Show intro & concept of “Curious Conversations”
• 01:56 — Society’s unspoken rules & environmental responsibility
• 03:00 — Jaywalking – name origin deep dive
• 07:16 — Life skills nobody teaches
• 10:12 — Insurance rants
• 13:00 — Buddy’s big kid questions about the universe
• 16:46 — Astronaut perspective & unity
• 17:40 — What do we overreact to most?
• 21:38 — Holidays & adulting stress
• 22:20 — The myth of achieving “balance”
• 24:59 — Draw of nostalgia & memory in the digital age
• 28:39 — Game: “Why or Why Not?”
• 33:11 — Letting your kids see you own your mistakes
• 38:26 — Inspirational quote & power of kindness

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Conclusion

This episode is a quintessential Nikki & Brie experience: relatable, humorous, a little chaotic, and full of genuinely thoughtful moments. The sisters’ honesty about modern challenges, their musings on everyday mysteries, and their willingness to own flaws make for a fun and comforting listen—like a happy hour with your real-life besties. Regular listeners and newcomers alike will walk away laughing, nodding, and maybe even a little inspired to smile at a stranger (or reconsider the next Google search for their name).

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Transcript

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[Nikki]

Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the Nikki and Brie Show. And today we are bringing back curious conversations.

[Brie]

Oh, yes. Very curious. About so many things up as late. Oh, really? No, not really.

[Nikki]

Well, then you want to just dive in. Brie, you want to hit me with your first curious combo?

[Brie]

No, I actually don't.

[Nikki]

Oh, good. Are we playing doctor today? The funny clown. What are we doing?

[Brie]

Well, I mean, I don't know what's really curious about a funny clown. Well, I mean, the way that you're.

[Nikki]

Gonna be the funny clown. No, that's what I was meaning at all.

[Brie]

So, Nikki and I always have fun doing this. Curious conversations. We usually. We don't know what we're going to ask each other, but we like to hear what each other comes up with. Kind of feels like it's a little off. Bella Brains.

[Nikki]

Yeah, right. For sure.

[Brie]

Okay, well, I say you go with your first question.

[Nikki]

Okay, Bri, I'm gonna have you be like. Like a congresswoman for a sec.

[Brie]

The last thing I'd ever want to be.

[Nikki]

What is a rule in society that no one really follows but we all agree exist?

[Brie]

I don't know, really. I mean, it should be that the only way we can breathe is with trees. And if we keep cutting down the Amazon, we're going to screw ourselves. But for some reason, there's no logic there.

[Nikki]

But, you know, that's. I mean, that, like, that's what I like the. About this curious conversation.

[Brie]

Yeah.

[Nikki]

What are, like, rules that you feel like it would be easy to follow, but no one does, is that we're.

[Brie]

Going through our natural resources so fast, and the minute they're not there.

[Nikki]

Yeah.

[Brie]

We can't exist. Totally. So the importance of fresh water, Trees, bees, insects, a lot of things that we keep getting rid of.

[Nikki]

The bee Thing is the major why people put up bee killing things. When you're like, those are for wasps.

[Brie]

But still part of the bee family. But not pollinators. But no, they don't have to.

[Nikki]

Well, they don't have to go. But.

[Brie]

But bees do get caught up in there. But I think for me, well, you know, there was a big win for some bees. I can't remember what country was, but they finally got legal rights because, yeah, without bees, we can't exist.

[Nikki]

Right.

[Brie]

But yeah, that's a very, you know, Brie type of answer. Well, I mean, is there something you.

[Nikki]

Think, well, like, jaywalking, but also, why did it get called jaywalking? Do you think, like, the first person that did it was named Jay?

[Brie]

They're like, no, Jay. You can't do that.

[Nikki]

You can't walk that way.

[Brie]

Nobody can walk like Jay. No jaywalking.

[Nikki]

But does it stand for something that we just don't know, that we know.

[Brie]

We failed in driver's ed?

[Nikki]

Yeah, because, like, when you think of jaywalking, you're. You're illegally walking or you're not walking.

[Brie]

You're walking out of a crosswalk.

[Nikki]

But why is it a jaywalk?

[Brie]

There must be something we don't know.

[Nikki]

There has to be. Is it because, like, you walk kind of down the street and then you go across it so it makes, like, a J instead of, like, just going straight across?

[Brie]

I'm gonna ask Google. I know.

[Nikki]

Actually. I'm actually really curious about that.

[Brie]

Oh, let's see.

[Nikki]

What is jaywalking?

[Brie]

Jaywalking is called that because Jay was slang for a native country person.

[Nikki]

Okay, so we don't want.

[Brie]

And the term was. Wow, I don't know. So it's racist.

[Nikki]

Okay.

[Brie]

Jaywalking is called that because Jay was slang for a native country person. So it was a J, like a hick or a.

[Nikki]

Let me see. Okay.

[Brie]

Oh, naive.

[Nikki]

You. So jaywalking is called that because Jay was slaying for a naive, not native country person, which is a hick or rube. I didn't want to say what a rube is. I'm sure rub is term.

[Brie]

Rub. I'm sure it's rude to call someone a rube.

[Nikki]

Oh, well, for sure.

[Brie]

Yeah.

[Nikki]

I thought you thought I was saying rude. No, well, I'm just reading what Google said, so. And the term was created by the auto industry in the 1920s to blame pedestrians for accidents, shifting blame from drivers to people who crossed streets carelessly. Of course, if they were ignorant of city traffic rules, the term ridiculed pedestrians for stepping into roads that car manufacturers wanted for their vehicles. But at the end of the day, you guys, jaywalking is called that because Jay. Jay, who was a countryman, he walked out in the 1920s, and it might have not been his fault, but guess what? GMC was going to make sure it was his fault. Just kidding. I'm not gmc, but I'm trying to think of Ford, one of the original.

[Brie]

Jay made a very honest mistake, an accident in his.

[Nikki]

And they want his overalls and cowboy hat and. Not that. I mean, I'm just.

[Brie]

Corporate America decided to use it.

[Nikki]

Poor Jay. Poor J. Well, at least we were right.

[Brie]

I feel like we should call it something else now. I feel like the.

[Nikki]

No. No walking.

[Brie]

I don't know. I should. It should be called, I don't know, something else.

[Nikki]

Bad pedestrian walking.

[Brie]

Walk at your own risk. Let's just say that.

[Nikki]

No, you definitely need to have rules and should get tickets for jaywalking.

[Brie]

Yeah.

[Nikki]

There has to be laws on that.

[Brie]

Or no idiot walking.

[Nikki]

No. We'll just say the no. No pedestrian walking. I like that.

[Brie]

Right.

[Nikki]

Okay. What do you got for me?

[Brie]

Okay, so I'm very curious about this. We're.

[Nikki]

We're gonna lean native person. I mean, unreal.

[Brie]

Naive. I meant well, you know, it's because I jumped ahead because I have dyslexia, so I saw, like, the hick and the rube, so I instantly went to, like, another.

[Nikki]

What is a rube, though?

[Brie]

I don't know.

[Nikki]

I mean, obviously, it's a. It's a bad word.

[Brie]

Yeah.

[Nikki]

But I've never heard of it.

[Brie]

Google. Okay, so this one's going to come from, like, social media, pop culture. Is protecting your peace online a selfish act or a necessary one?

[Nikki]

Well, I mean, I feel like we talk about that all the time. Beyond necessary. There's not even a curious conversation about that.

[Brie]

Just wanted to know.

[Nikki]

Well, no, you wanted to know where did Chat GBT give you that?

[Brie]

No, I did that.

[Nikki]

Curious about this, Brie. Even though I kind of feel like I might know your answer. But I'm very curious. What's a life skill we're all expected to know, but no one actually taught us. No one. No one actually taught us.

[Brie]

Your checkbook, how to write a check, how to balance your check and account. Those are all surprises. Utility bills. Nobody told me about that in high school. I came to learn at 18, quickly.

[Nikki]

Also, I feel like. Like, the amount of water you should drink in a day.

[Brie]

Yeah.

[Nikki]

Do you know what I mean?

[Brie]

Right.

[Nikki]

I also feel like. Like learning the Heimlich. You should learn that in school.

[Brie]

Yeah, I shouldn't wait till two like your parent.

[Nikki]

You shouldn't have to like wait till like your parent or want to be a lifeguard to learn it. It's like. Or a nurse like you. Everyone should learn that in school because you get put in a situation public and everyone just thinks you should know how to save someone.

[Brie]

Right.

[Nikki]

From not breathing or choking.

[Brie]

Interesting.

[Nikki]

Interesting, right? There's honestly quite a few life skills and like, you signed up for automotive class in senior year, so you learned how to change it. Or auto care. You learned how to change a tire. But like if I didn't learn how to change a tire because I didn't take the class. Yeah, and everyone just assumes you should learn how to. You should know how to change a tire.

[Brie]

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[Brie]

So another actually aaa. Yeah, I actually have a curious question kind of leaning into like this kind of area. Why does homeowners insurance kick you off for fire insurance if you live in an area that has fires?

[Nikki]

Because they don't want to pay for it. They want your house to burn and they don't want to pay for it.

[Brie]

But I mean, when you really break.

[Nikki]

It down 100, it's a scam.

[Brie]

How does that make Sense scam. Because you're only going to look for fire insurance if you're in a fire area. But then they're like, tell me how.

[Nikki]

You pay for health insurance. And then you go in for things. They're like, oh, actually, that's not going to just be the 500 copay.

[Brie]

Not even.

[Nikki]

It's going to be this. And it's like, but isn't this the point of health insurance?

[Brie]

No, they'll get you because they'll go, it's a 50 copay. You're like, awesome.

[Nikki]

And then, oh, 50,000.

[Brie]

Two months later, you get like, a bill. And you're like, wait a second.

[Nikki]

I'm like, how do fake titties cost less than this?

[Brie]

Right, Good point.

[Nikki]

There's something I saw, actually, I need it.

[Brie]

Okay.

[Nikki]

I read a headline, so I do not know what this exact.

[Brie]

So you're gonna start a rumor.

[Nikki]

I heard, and I need to figure find out that something under the Trump administration, in, like, the next year, if you've had, like, plastic surgery, like, there's something about getting kicked off your health insurance or, like, certain things won't get covered.

[Brie]

F. That I'd be.

[Nikki]

I know. Well, they were saying everyone who got bbls and, like, all the stuff are. It was like this whole thing. So.

[Brie]

By the way, headline, no ideas, Right? Okay.

[Nikki]

But. Oh, I should never do that. For our next curious conversation.

[Brie]

Okay, you asked me one, and I have another one that Buddy asked me.

[Nikki]

Last night, curious about this. What universal experience should. Like, which one should come with a warning label?

[Brie]

Like, a warning label. So what universal experience should come with a warning label? Yeah, like flying.

[Nikki]

Like, maybe I. My first thought would be, like, traveling. Because I feel like sometimes people just travel and they think, like, oh, I'm gonna go here. And it's fine because everyone do their research, right? And then they. Things happen.

[Brie]

Yeah. I mean, I guess travel, I feel like warning. You're going to Disneyland and you're gonna drop a ton of money. I don't know. I mean, I would say travel would be the biggest.

[Nikki]

Okay.

[Brie]

But other than that, I mean, just. You live and learn.

[Nikki]

Oh, gosh. All right.

[Brie]

Live and learn.

[Nikki]

That's. That's the label.

[Brie]

Live and learn. Live and learn. That's the motto. So Buddy asked me this last night. Oh, who created outer space?

[Nikki]

God.

[Brie]

How long ago?

[Nikki]

From the beginning.

[Brie]

How long? So he goes, and how big is it? So he starts asking me this. And this can get you in a weird space, right? Like, and then he goes. And then he goes, well, when there's Outer space and where's heaven at? And so he just started to go into that deep, really hard questions. And I'm, like, trying to give him very generic answers.

[Nikki]

Heaven's above it. And, like, God started everything still.

[Brie]

I go up, like, constantly pointing north. But, yeah. And then I'm like, you know what? Can we. Let's talk about something else. Like, how was your day?

[Nikki]

Like, well, it's like when people will say there's a big Bang. And, like, what I believe is God was like, yeah, boom, there it is. Well, when they think Earth started from, like, the Big Bang theory, Right.

[Brie]

Oh, is that, like.

[Nikki]

Right, that's what some people believe.

[Brie]

Yeah.

[Nikki]

I'm like, okay, but I believe. Yeah. It was like God being like, boom, let's start life.

[Brie]

I never knew that Big bang meant, like, Earth, what was a flying rock and became.

[Nikki]

You do not know the Big Bang theory.

[Brie]

I don't know. I probably was snoozing in class when they were talking about it.

[Nikki]

I mean, even as an adult, you don't know the I love theory.

[Brie]

I love the TV show Big Bang Theory.

[Nikki]

Yeah. So you didn't learn anything from it?

[Brie]

I mean, I knew there was their whole, like, intro. Well, I knew that, but I didn't get it. Whatever. I know third rock from the sun is Earth because we're third.

[Nikki]

Okay, but. Oh, my gosh, you're nuts.

[Brie]

You're nuts, dude.

[Nikki]

That's, like, what non believers believe. How, like, Earth started, like, the world. Life started. It was from the Big Bang. But most believers don't believe that. But what I am like, let's. Let's all become one. The big Bang came from God being like, and here we go now life starts. So, I mean, you know, funny.

[Brie]

Yeah, we'll see. I'm. I'm a not a non believer, so I guess I never have dived into that. Oh, don't get the flat Earther thing going.

[Nikki]

That has nothing to do with flat Earther at all.

[Brie]

Okay, well, do you believe the Earth is round? Because there's a lot of people out there who will argue with you.

[Nikki]

Okay, well, I will go get an astronomer or an astronaut, and I'll be like, guys, I mean, we've seen the Earth. You've seen it from space. Yeah. Is that flat? Because it looks pretty round from above.

[Brie]

I believe it is round. But you will. Some people think that.

[Nikki]

Yeah, the Truman show just stops. Boom.

[Brie]

Is that what he believed in, the Truman Show?

[Nikki]

No, but I'm saying. Because he went out when he finally went out, but he was like, it was a set.

[Brie]

No, I think theirs. They look at the ocean. I must think they just like take a ship and they go and they fall. I don't know how they. What they think. I don't know. I'm not a flat Earther, so.

[Nikki]

Yeah.

[Brie]

But I know they're out there.

[Nikki]

I just. Why I don't believe in flat Earth theories is we literally have photographs from space and clearly the Earth looks round.

[Brie]

Yeah. So. So actually something I just read, which I thought was cool, one of the astronauts that just came back from space, it was really neat. His perspective of when he saw it, he goes, he. Now listen, this is like his experience. So that when he saw Earth, it wasn't divided into these countries that we draw out and we learn. Like, that's North America and there's Australia. He's like, when you look at it, it just. It's a planet and you see, you know, the consistency of what if it's made of. But you don't see the drawings of what we all know.

[Nikki]

There's also Wayne space.

[Brie]

But what it made it is like, so we. That's why there should be unity. This is our print. All of us together. Like, we don't own this. We don't own that. Like, we're like. When he was up there, it made him very much realize, like, how off we all are here.

[Nikki]

100, you know, drawing the lines.

[Brie]

You know, it was like, really. I thought it was a really great perspective. And you look at someone like that who goes up there and sees it and. Yeah, I thought that was cool. By the way, I'd never be an astronaut when. How long they're up there. I mean, I get. It's hard for me on some rides.

[Nikki]

No, you are born to do that. Like, no, it. That is. Yeah. That has to be within you from birth because. Yeah, that's crazy to know things. What you have to, like, handle, like, mentally, physically, all the things, all the training. Good for them. Geniuses.

[Brie]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Nikki]

So curious. Do you think there's something that we collectively overreact to in the world?

[Brie]

I mean, I think we overact over a lot of things.

[Nikki]

So what's the first thing that, like, sticks out in your head?

[Brie]

I mean, I feel like we over. I feel like we overreact of the way we're all judged.

[Nikki]

Like, but aren't you judgy, Judy?

[Brie]

Yeah, but I don't need people to overreact over what I'm thinking of you. And I don't.

[Nikki]

So we react to people's opinions.

[Brie]

Yeah, like I know you're not. Everyone's gonna love me. And I know not everyone's gonna agree with my views and how I live. That's okay. Yeah, let's keep the peace and have, like, judge in a kind way.

[Nikki]

What I.

[Brie]

You can judge in a kind way. We. I judge in a kind.

[Nikki]

Yeah.

[Brie]

But what I'm saying is I think sometimes we all overreact because that's actually a good one.

[Nikki]

And I agree. And I think we not only. We've already talked about this, how we feel like a lot of people in this world lack empathy, but we lack understanding. Right. So for sure, like, poor jay in the 1920s was like, dude, you all misunderstood. Yeah, I just wanted to run to go get the new Coca Cola that came out. And now forever, you all are calling it jaywalking.

[Brie]

I mean, we should figure out where he's from or he was from and if there's still members alive to this day.

[Nikki]

I'm assuming now this is an assumption Midwest, the South, maybe.

[Brie]

Yeah.

[Nikki]

Where were the car companies?

[Brie]

Now you can go really deep and this is like the stuff you are, like conspiracy theorists. Maybe it was all made up. Maybe Jay's in a real person. Maybe they made it up. Right.

[Nikki]

I mean, for sure. They're like their automobile, like, all mess.

[Brie]

They had a big old.

[Nikki]

Let's blame some guy. And like, the guy hated a guy named Jay, so he's like. We're like, just call him Jay and we're gonna say Jay, we ran in the street.

[Brie]

Well, just think is like, you know, at that time, they'd call your penmanship, like your personality. No, John, like Hancock. Hancock. Like you had John Doe. Jane Doe. So J.

[Nikki]

So they're walking.

[Brie]

We don't.

[Nikki]

We can't say John walking, so we'll say Jay walking.

[Brie]

Do you know?

[Nikki]

Yeah. Which I can never think of it as anything else because.

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[Nikki]

It's all we know is.

[Brie]

But another J. You know, this is like what people do. Weird.

[Nikki]

Yeah. I don't.

[Brie]

I'll.

[Nikki]

I'll go to a certain level. And then I'm like, you know what? Just pour the swine.

[Brie]

Like, you see me on tick tock. So what I'm thinking about is.

[Nikki]

No, they're all start with J's.

[Brie]

And if you go back to that year, 1920s.

[Nikki]

I mean. I mean, but kind of funny that jaywalking started in 1920s, but. Oh, but I guess that's. Yeah.

[Brie]

You got to get over the jaywalking something.

[Nikki]

Excuse me.

[Brie]

You got to get over it.

[Nikki]

Well, maybe it's something I'm curious about next.

[Brie]

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[Brie]

See terms. Okay, so.

[Nikki]

So I'm curious about Bri. What's something that used to feel exciting as a kid, but now it's just stressful? I just give me a long list of things.

[Brie]

I mean, just something.

[Nikki]

Holidays. Yeah, it's like the main.

[Brie]

For me, holidays, for sure.

[Nikki]

Obviously, you just show up and have fun.

[Brie]

Yeah.

[Nikki]

Got nice food on the table, desserts everywhere. Now we all have to provide it.

[Brie]

Even the other day, Birdie and Buddy wanted me to play tag. And I'm like, sure. But I was like, blown up. And I'm like, this isn't as fun as it used to be. But like, you know, they're giggling. Love it. Laughing, loving it.

[Nikki]

Yeah, but that's cute.

[Brie]

It is. But yeah, I guess. Holidays. Yeah, for sure. Okay, Nicole.

[Nikki]

And then after this, we're gonna play a game.

[Brie]

Okay. So is chasing balance realistic, or is it something we're always adjusting?

[Nikki]

Chasing balance, always something we're chasing. I feel like that's been on my New Year's resolution list for like five, six years, maybe longer.

[Brie]

So then why do. Are we constantly feeling like, like balanced?

[Nikki]

Like. Well, because unlike the flat Earthers, I feel like.

[Brie]

Because we dealt the stratum round.

[Nikki]

Yeah, we're just. Energy's always moving. The earth is always moving. Life is always changing and moving and how much we want to try to balance it. It's like, again, we talked about that meme you sent me. The squirrel finally is in peace. And then it gets like, hit with the snowball and it's like the universe is like, nope.

[Brie]

Yeah, I just.

[Nikki]

Things are always happening. Life is just going. And so I feel like right when we think we Start to get balance. New things come into your life and yeah, it's just, I don't know, I've started to figure out that's the way it is. That's why it's important to be present and go with the flow. See, someone showed up who was trying to figure out balance. They go, you know, go with the flow. Look at flow over there. She's going with the flow. So whoever came up with that just got sick of the person talking about balance and realized they ain't happening here. Yeah, ain't gonna happen in this life.

[Brie]

Well, I will say this, that balance always sounds nice, but I do agree. I feel like we're all, our schedules are always changing. We're changing. So yes, we're always adjusting.

[Nikki]

So have you totally. Have you noticed how I stopped putting out many years resolutions? Because I just started to realize I stress myself out trying to find balance when I truly don't think balance exists. I think it's more about not always saying yes to things or things like that.

[Brie]

Well, but, but it is like one of the number one questions always asked, how do you have balance? Now? I always say my priority list. But it is interesting because I feel like people are always seeking it.

[Nikki]

When you think of your answer to that, always it's like, I do the things I love and blah, blah, blah. So it's sometimes. So if you want to like get like deep into things, like, does balance exist or is it because when you don't do things you love, you're like trying to figure out ways to maybe enjoy the things you don't love because you're stuck. But if you were to take it out and like, you can do all these things you love and like, it's fine, but you just get my brain hurt. Yeah. And that you made me feel earlier. But you know what I mean? Which, it's kind of funny. I feel like that could be an SNL skit where everything they say, they go, okay, so actually what if this doesn't exist? And like, blah. Oh yeah, you could actually do that with like absolutely everything.

[Brie]

Yeah. Oh, you for sure can. Okay, here's something I'm curious about because I feel like we see it all the time on social media. Why are so many people drawn to nostalgia right now?

[Nikki]

Because we're missing life before social media and Internet and these phones because we're.

[Brie]

Feeling overwhelmed or you think overstimulated overwhelmed.

[Nikki]

So I just saw a study come out that said I sent it to you probably didn't see it, but because I send you so much stuff. But so it was saying that because of how the world is now, with programming, cell phone, social media, how streaming all the things, right, that these generations and even how we are now, our brains aren't sticking to memories a lot. Because see, pre all of this, our brains really took in things. And so in our memory part of our brain, it really like held on to moments. And that's why like when we had a certain smell, we would think of childhood and we, we would remember those moments. And when you think about, think of how many memories you can remember, think of since this, this era.

[Brie]

Oh, how much do you remember? We're always like, I walk into a room and I'm like, what was I gonna do?

[Nikki]

So they're saying the generations that are grown with all this, how they lack memory and they, they're not going back to what they have because this is always blocked them. But I feel like the nostalgia especially what we all crave is we have those strong memories. So those are the biggest ones stuck in our head. And then our kids or our friends feel that like people who don't have that, I think they feel how amazing those eras were because they don't have a lot of memories stuck in their own brain. So then they're like, I want to experience the 90s. Like when you think about it, it all makes total sense. And I feel like that's why nostalgia has become such a big thing.

[Brie]

Why are we effing everything up?

[Nikki]

Well, it's not us.

[Brie]

So I definitely agree with that for sure. And so I think we also.

[Nikki]

That's why they say millennial, millennials look so young. You know how there's been that because they said we had so many decades of not having this kind of light radiation in our face that has kept us naturally young. And that's why like what's making the other generations look older? Cuz they were just born with it in their face and they always have it in their face.

[Brie]

It's good to know for our kids. Yeah, I mean we're super strict at our house, but it's good to know to always like, yeah, remember those things.

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[Brie]

See terms. Ouch. All right, you got another one?

[Nikki]

No.

[Brie]

Let's play. We're hitting you with all the anxiety for bedtime tonight.

[Nikki]

Yeah, no, there's been a lot of great things, but. Okay, so, Bri, why or why not is our game. So we're gonna take this insane energy we've been talking about into a game, and that's what we're gonna call it, why or why not. So here, here's how it works. We'll take turns reading a statement and answering why or why not? And we can, of course, expand as we see fit.

[Brie]

Yep.

[Nikki]

So the first one, more family trips. Why or why not?

[Brie]

I say, why not. Brian. I actually want to do more trips. But what we said. We want to do more trips that are driving. You throw the bags in the car, you find like national park camping grounds, and if you don't like that, whatever city to go explore a museum. But Brian and I said this year we don't want to think about flying as much as driving. What are like, things that are driving? Distance. We feel like our kids can handle four to five hours in a car.

[Nikki]

Totally.

[Brie]

And. But we feel like do more road trips on the weekends.

[Nikki]

I love that.

[Brie]

Yeah.

[Nikki]

By the way, for sure.

[Brie]

Agree. For sure. For sure. All right, this one. Nicole, canceling plans because the couch is calling.

[Nikki]

Hey, that means your soul is calling. Some rest. So I say, why not?

[Brie]

It's.

[Nikki]

You know what? I just feel like because of over stimulation and stuff, we just need more bricks at home. Before, we didn't. We didn't connect with people unless we went out. So there was a reason to always be out because that was when we got our human connection. People connect so much online that I get why you're just like, I'm staying on the couch.

[Brie]

Rest and decompress. Honestly, you know, I've been doing this January where I won't let myself watch a show, which I hate, putting the rules on myself, but I wanted to, like, kind of decompress differently when I get the kids down. So I've been reading and it's actually been really nice. And you obviously notice the differences. You sleep better. It's true.

[Nikki]

I watching my shows at night, but it's true.

[Brie]

But your eyes get heavier so I think you fall deeper into sleep.

[Nikki]

Like for sure, you know. But yeah, they say that. I mean they've been saying that you need 2. 2 hours stop screen time before bed.

[Brie]

Yeah. Okay. Next.

[Nikki]

Learning a new skill just for fun.

[Brie]

Why not? If you have the time. Don't stress yourself out.

[Nikki]

Don't stress yourself out.

[Brie]

Don't put too much on your plate. But yeah. You know what someone told me they.

[Nikki]

Say it's so great for your brain.

[Brie]

Yeah. When you go in your 50s is when you start to learn to play the piano. They say that's like a 50 year old really. Like.

[Nikki]

But great for their brain.

[Brie]

Yeah, for sure.

[Nikki]

Gotta keep working that brain out.

[Brie]

So. But you know what I've really wanted to do and I've eyed some classes, but I'm too busy right now. But is pottery.

[Nikki]

Yeah.

[Brie]

I really want to learn.

[Nikki]

I would like to do like. Like the way the ghost version like Patrick S. Sway was talking.

[Brie]

Demi Moore.

[Nikki]

Demi Moore. I mean I like to do a pottery class like that.

[Brie]

I'm sure you would. Okay, next one. Waking up an hour earlier each day.

[Nikki]

Yes. Why not get it done? I. I feel like once you get into that flow, you know, whether they say 14 days makes a habit. I think it's so much better in life.

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[Nikki]

To be up earlier and like. No, it depends. Like I agree with it.

[Brie]

But I'm in a hard place in my life because buddy.

[Nikki]

Yeah.

[Brie]

We'll still come into the bed. So setting an alarm. And if I feel like he still needs to sleep or I don't want to wake up Brian.

[Nikki]

Look, if.

[Brie]

But I do want to wake up.

[Nikki]

You wake up an hour earlier and you still get good sleep. Then do it.

[Brie]

Yeah. Yeah. I. I mean I really want to. I want to be on that 5:30am time, but it's hard. Okay, next for me.

[Nikki]

Huh?

[Brie]

You're gonna ask me a question. You want me to ask you?

[Nikki]

Well, I just asked one, but. Okay.

[Brie]

No, you didn't. I asked you that.

[Nikki]

Trusting timing instead of forcing outcomes. Why or why not?

[Brie]

I mean, I believe in timing. Timing's everything. So I say, why not? I think based off experience in my life especially I would say in the last three, four years, I really lives off timing. And it. Every time it came at the right time, even if I desired it before or I was. I felt I wasn't ready for it. And was there when I followed through. I go, oh, see?

[Nikki]

Yeah.

[Brie]

Something higher. New. Totally. It was. The timing was perfect.

[Nikki]

It's weird because I feel like when you're forcing outcomes, you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

[Brie]

For sure.

[Nikki]

And failure is fine, but disappointment's different.

[Brie]

Yep. Yeah, for sure. Okay. What about letting your kids see you mess up and own it?

[Nikki]

Letting your kids see. Oh, well, yeah. Why not? Like, as long as you own it. Yeah. They need to. They need to know you're not perfect so they. They don't feel like they have to be perfect.

[Brie]

Even like, one thing I do is. I'll admit there are times, like, I'll get to a point I might yell. The first thing I do is I apologize.

[Nikki]

Yeah.

[Brie]

I'm sorry, guys. Mommy's had a really hard day.

[Nikki]

Yes.

[Brie]

I didn't want to yell. I shouldn't have yelled. I apologize. And I think saying sorry will help them. And I see it. It helps them say sorry. It lets us all know. And then when you own it, they know, like, I don't need to be perfect. We're going to have these down times, so let's all tell each other. Yeah. Because I think a lot of times how we all were raised was we never got to see that part of the apologies and. And everyone, you know, being a little stubborn to, like, I just think, why? No, don't. Cause that, like, let your kids see early on that you're sorry for the mistakes you make as a parent.

[Nikki]

100.

[Brie]

Because we're not perfect.

[Nikki]

No, I agree. And, you know, I think it's sometimes good for them to see you mess up, and maybe they succeed at something. Like, I am a LEGO master, so there you go. And then he can build something cool, and I don't. And that kind of gives him a little, like, confidence boost of, like, okay, this is what I can do. And Mommy can't. Googling yourself. Why? Or why not? Don't.

[Brie]

No, don't do that.

[Nikki]

Why? Why?

[Brie]

No, don't do it. You know, you're. You're gonna judge everything they say and see. You're even gonna date. You're even gonna judge the first picture pops up. You're gonna be like, who did that?

[Nikki]

And sometimes it's so intentional.

[Brie]

Well, we feel.

[Nikki]

I mean, I can't even go run in the rain with, like, my pink clip in my hair. Dude, that really sucked for me, which.

[Brie]

It's fine for you, but that's okay.

[Nikki]

Pouring rain and I didn't want to get. And I'm like, throw it up, clip it. Hoodie on, like, and after training, like, just makeup. Freeing to keep going as if being makeup free is so bad. But then you have me in a spot. Sprint across the street with, like.

[Brie]

Yeah. I mean, right now I got the Antonio Banderas ponytail going on. Whatever.

[Nikki]

Well, don't dis yourself.

[Brie]

Do you know, like, it is what it is, but. Yeah, but don't I. That's. There's one thing. Say for nothing.

[Nikki]

Why?

[Brie]

Yeah, why? Why?

[Nikki]

All right, you ended one more, and then we'll.

[Brie]

One more.

[Nikki]

Oh, I thought you want to do one more?

[Brie]

You want me to give you one more?

[Nikki]

Yeah, give me one more, and then we'll go into some inspiration information.

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[Nikki]

Oh, you don't have to. If you don't got nothing, then.

[Brie]

Oh, here we go. Letting your twin sister answer your text for you. Texas. For you.

[Nikki]

Why?

[Brie]

Please let me do it one time.

[Nikki]

Yeah, like, I want to let Bri return my text message. I mean, I do have, let's see, 547. If you want to start checking them.

[Brie]

Jeez. I'll just send everyone emojis.

[Nikki]

Oh, gosh. As long as they're not eggplant ones. So we were water.

[Brie]

No, we were laughing because my cousin was messing with my brother, and he was like, harding, what? Some people were saying. And then when my brother would write something, he would do a thumbs up because he wanted to see if he noticed Kelly. Yeah. And JJ ended up noticing, but, like, they were like, it was funny. He's like, JJ at first was like, so strange. Like, hearts things, but he keeps them stuffing my.

[Nikki]

That's actually amazing.

[Brie]

Amazing. Like, it's funny. Like, you could do that to people and there's a it.

[Nikki]

Oh, for sure.

[Brie]

You take it the wrong way. But, like, yeah, I thought that was hilarious.

[Nikki]

That's really.

[Brie]

So I would do that in your text messages. I would, like, No.

[Nikki]

I would never, ever let you respond on my behalf.

[Brie]

Oh, my gosh.

[Nikki]

So should be. At times you're like. You mean more direct or, like, whatever you say. And I'm like, more direct?

[Brie]

Yes.

[Nikki]

Or like, you'll just say things and I'm like, dude. And also, sometimes I think your perspective can just whatever. What will just not be my vibes. Okay, Meaning, like, I will not want you to respond on my text messages.

[Brie]

You will. You over think everything. How many times have you asked me, like, like, oh, is this fine? Is this fine? I just, like, write it and send it. Huh? Or voice note it.

[Nikki]

Oh, please don't. Hey. So native.

[Brie]

It reminds me of when I Was on michael' Strahan Pyramid Show. Jeez, that guy still talks. Not Michael Strahan. The guy who I was helping. Yeah, well, you probably still talks about me.

[Nikki]

You lost him a bunch of money because you didn't know the word comma. You kept thinking coma.

[Brie]

No, no. Yes, I think I kept. Oh, you're right. Yeah, I kept saying coma, comma, damn. All right, everyone, well, we're going to leave you here with some inspiration, affirmation, something that will make you feel good going into the world, hopefully smarter. Yeah, no, definitely not smarter, but feeling better. But this is at full spirit quotes. Oh, shoot.

[Nikki]

It says spirit today.

[Brie]

Yes, we are.

[Nikki]

This probably won't be for flat Earthers.

[Brie]

No, this might actually be for them.

[Nikki]

Okay. They might like it.

[Brie]

The world needs more kindness, so don't underestimate the power of your smile, your words, or your actions. Even if you're curious about flat earth.

[Nikki]

It did not end with that.

[Brie]

No, of course not. So. But I thought that was nice. You know what I mean? Yeah, it was. You have nothing to say about kindness with smiles and your words. You want people to be like me.

[Nikki]

You know, I always have to look at it.

[Brie]

I know. Sorry. I just. I just deleted it. Or I just put it down. I was like, deleted. I mean, jeez.

[Nikki]

No, you should always.

[Brie]

Here we go.

[Nikki]

Kindness and smiles and all the things. I mean, the world does need more kindness. And, you know, it is true not to underestimate the power of a smile, because literally, I try, especially when I'm looking at a stranger and I feel like they just need a smile. I try to get that eye contact in a smile. Because a smile literally can change someone's life for sure and for sure change someone's day. But you have no idea how powerful. Like, a smile smile and just acknowledging someone. Or, like, you'll hear it a lot on whether it's TV shows or whatever, how just, like, someone wants to be seen. Like, they just need to be seen. Like, you know that new series that I'm obsessed with? We both are on Netflix. Leanne. But, like, how the mom.

[Brie]

I watched that, like, a year ago.

[Nikki]

Anyways. But, like, the mom of five kids, how she's like, you saw me. I just needed to be seen. It's, like, true. Some people just need to be seen.

[Brie]

Yeah.

[Nikki]

So that's what a smile does. It sees people. And Leanne did not come out, like, a year ago.

[Brie]

I watched it a long time ago.

[Nikki]

Well, whatever. Did you watch her 2025 stand up, too?

[Brie]

I started it, but I Never get around.

[Nikki]

It's really. Well, the second season is coming out soon too.

[Brie]

I was the one who told you to go watch Lee.

[Nikki]

I know you didn't. And then I had to wait on my terms when I wanted to watch.

[Brie]

But you're like talking to me like, I need to go watch the show.

[Nikki]

And I told you to watch. No, I'm just telling you. But I did say you need to go watch the stand up.

[Brie]

But it's nice to watch a show like that, right? That makes you laugh.

[Nikki]

And like, I mean, Mateo laughs so hard. And I love it because it's their facials. Like, he, like, he doesn't like watching obviously shows like that or even cartoons. And that one, he will sit and he's like. He goes like he laughs so hard at their facials.

[Brie]

Best facials.

[Nikki]

Best facials. Her stand ups very much.

[Brie]

We should get her on the podcast. Do you think she'd come on?

[Nikki]

I would think. I don't know. I think so.

[Brie]

I saw.

[Nikki]

She's hilarious. Yeah. What I just love and whoever the writers of that show, it's probably the best writing that I've heard in a really long time.

[Brie]

Well, I think it's her. She's one of the writers. Yeah. Jeez, it's freezing. It's freezing in here. All right, well, we better go outside.

[Nikki]

Into frost and 45 degree weather because it's obviously 35 in here.

[Brie]

Everyone's gonna see Frosty the Snowman come back. He's like, holidays ain't over yet, mom joke. Anyways, everyone. All right, you can catch today's.

[Nikki]

Should you call him Jay? I'm just.

[Brie]

No. All right, everyone, you can catch videos of today's episode on our YouTube channel. Also on our social platforms at the Nikki and Brie Show, Tick Tock, Instagram, Facebook, and you can call us at 833GARCIA 2. And also check out the show on Sirius XM Stars 109. All right, bye, everyone.

[Nikki]

Bye. See you guys.

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[Nikki]

Com.