R-Truth: Unreal Reinvention

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Nikki & Brie Show

Episode: R-Truth: Unreal Reinvention

Date: January 29, 2026
Guest: Ron Killings (R-Truth)
Hosts: Nikki & Brie Garcia (formerly Nikki & Brie Bella)
Podcast: The Nikki & Brie Show (SiriusXM)

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Episode Overview

This episode brings WWE legend and all-around entertainer Ron Killings (aka R-Truth) onto the show for a conversation that’s as heartwarming as it is entertaining. Nikki and Brie reminisce about their years together on the road, dig into R-Truth’s experience with being released and re-hired by WWE (as seen on Netflix's "WWE Unreal"), talk about his latest musical endeavors, and play a rapid-fire game with their signature candor and humor. The discussion centers on resilience, reinvention, family (both inside and outside the ring), and the power of staying true to yourself.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Reunion & WWE Family Ties

• The trio opens with playful banter and nostalgia, reflecting on their long WWE journey together.
  • [07:07] R-Truth: "Ah, shoot. I knew y’ all gonna come on when I got back. Can y’ all hear me?"
  • [11:02] R-Truth: "Everything's different. Everything's changed, but still the same."
• They remark on the unchanging camaraderie backstage, even as people and the industry evolve.

2. Reflections on "WWE Unreal" and Career Setbacks

• R-Truth talks candidly about being released from WWE, his emotions, and the overwhelming support from colleagues and fans when he was rehired.
  • [13:50] R-Truth: "It brought back some of the same emotions I had. ... The post was a gratitude post. That’s all it was. I wasn’t jaded, I wasn’t mad...I was numb because I was surprised."
  • He details sacrifices made for wrestling—missing family milestones—and how affirmation from fans and peers helped him see that "it wasn’t all for nothing."
  • [16:32] R-Truth: "When my son said, 'it wasn’t for nothing, Dad...' yeah, I broke down."

3. Parenthood and Perspective

• Emotional discussion about juggling career and raising kids.
  • [19:28] R-Truth: “He’s been on the road with me…he’s seen me go through ups and downs.”
• Nikki and Brie share how their own experiences as parents have shifted their perspective.

4. R-Truth’s Music: The White Album

• Talk turns to his August album, a country-inspired project called “The White Album.”
  • [21:10] R-Truth: "Jelly Roll got big when he started doing music that pulls at people’s heartstrings...My producer said: let's do a whole album..."
  • He also hints at an unreleased collaboration with Metro Boomin and dreams of performing at WrestleMania in Las Vegas.
  • [23:05] R-Truth: "Performing at WrestleMania would be like the chef’s kiss on that."

5. Iconic WWE Moments & Catchphrases

• The hosts recall favorite R-Truth moments, from “Little Jimmy” to his legendary one-liners.
  • [25:40] R-Truth: "'It's not what you don't do, it's what you do do.' And we all cried, laughing."
  • Nikki and Brie affirm how much R-Truth meant to them as a friend who could "just look at each other and we knew."

6. Rapid Fire: "Truth or Truth" Game (Starts [27:40])

• A lighthearted round closes the show, covering:
  • What he’s grateful for: "Life." [28:00]
  • Can’t leave house without: "My phone." (plus something he hints is not PG!) [28:30]
  • Always late or on time: "I'm always late… I’ll be pushing it. I’m doing better." [28:50]
  • Royal Rumble in one word: "Anxiety…suspenseful." [29:38]
  • Something he can’t remember: "To be on time." [30:14]
  • Food he hates that everyone else loves: "Avocado. Reminds me of baby food." [33:08]
  • What puts him in a good mood: "A good vibe." [30:27]
  • Hardest challenge: "The mental pressure. Sometimes we be our own enemy.” [31:53]
  • A confident mistake: “Put lemon on my watermelon—then liking it.” [31:13]

7. Inspirational Sign-Off

• R-Truth passes along a favorite life motto from John Cena:
  • [35:07] R-Truth: “One hill at a time.”
  • Focus on what’s in front of you, accomplish that, then move on—don’t get overwhelmed trying to do it all at once.
  • [36:19] Nikki Bella: "When you can make one thing very great and you have that foundation, it's crazy how the other things just constantly fall in place."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Gratitude and Resilience:
  • R-Truth: “When my son said, ‘It wasn’t for nothing, Dad,’ yeah, I broke down…” [16:32]
• On Legacy:
  • Nikki Bella: “See, when you’re good to people and you’re a good human, this is the response you get from the world.” [17:26]
• On His Iconic WWE Persona:
  • Brie Bella: “And still to this day, one of my favorite gimmicks is Jimmy. When you had Jimmy.” [24:28]
• On Catchphrases:
  • Brie Bella: "It's not what you don't do, it's what you do do. And I still say it to this day." [25:44]
• On Mental Health:
  • R-Truth: "That mental pressure can burn you up or it can make you hot. ... Once we get this in tune with our emotions, the physical becomes very easy." [31:56]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [07:07] — Reunion and backstage memories
• [12:01] — Discussing the new season of WWE Unreal
• [13:50] — Emotional story of being released and fan support
• [19:28] — Parenting and generational impact
• [21:10] — The origins of “The White Album”
• [23:05] — Dreaming of performing at WrestleMania
• [24:28] — Remembering “Little Jimmy” and WWE quirks
• [25:40] — “It’s not what you don’t do, it’s what you do do” story
• [27:40] — Start of the “Truth or Truth” rapid-fire game
• [35:07] — John Cena’s motto: “One hill at a time”
• [36:19] — Final mutual affirmations and goodbyes

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Tone & Style

The episode is heartfelt, humorous, and authentic—true to Nikki, Brie, and Truth’s personalities. There’s constant back-and-forth teasing, reverence for their wrestling roots, and emotional openness that makes fans feel like part of their extended family.

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For New Listeners

If you’ve ever wondered about the humanity behind pro wrestling’s larger-than-life personas or the journey of reinvention, this episode gives a rare, tender, and illuminating glimpse into the personal and professional lives of WWE veterans. R-Truth’s story of comeback, gratitude, and branching out into new territory (country music!) is inspiring and relatable, no matter your walk of life.

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Summary prepared by Podcast Summarizer AI.

Transcript

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

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[Nikki Bella]

What up, everyone? Welcome back to another episode of the Nicki and Bri Show. And today is gonna get. What would you call it? Brie? I don't know. I, I thought I was gonna have something good and I don't have anything good. It's gonna be like, let's get ready to rumble. But no, that doesn't make sense.

[Brie Bella]

Well, you know, with our guest.

[Nikki Bella]

But nothing but the truth.

[Brie Bella]

There you go. Or something I always remember about which I can't wait for Ron to come on.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

Because today, everyone, we have a very special guest. It's Ron Killings. You know him as wwe Our truth. But from that one meeting we had when they finally introduced Twitter. And he goes, it's not what you don't do, it's what you do do.

[Nikki Bella]

I mean, we say it all the time.

[Brie Bella]

Over a decade later, we still will say it in our everyday lives.

[Nikki Bella]

Even more than that, I think.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah. And it's all, I mean, we have so many fun things to talk to him about.

[Nikki Bella]

I mean, we just, we have so many incredible memories with him. And it, it's fun to have him on as a guest today because as you know, we do have the Royal Rumble coming up in Saudi, which is so cool to have it in Saudi. AR and the Rumble's always been one of my favorite pay per views and so it's always one of the ones that I always make sure to tune into. Always one of the ones that I love being a part of. So we'll see. Yeah. But so I love having Truth here to talk about memories. To talk about that. Then his new album. His new album. I mean, I, there's, I mean, I wonder if we'll get to one of our stories that we have where I went to his house with John to see them create their music and it was really cool to see Truce, like produce studio. His studio. And of course we want to play A game with him too. But it's what I love too is everyone's seen, you know, because the second season of WWE Unreal is now on Netflix. So everyone's been binging it. And it's really cute because they have, you know that segment of True Truth.

[Brie Bella]

Was released exactly how they brought him up. I know it was actually.

[Nikki Bella]

So I interviewed how they really were very powerful and they really went in depth with it and I think it's really cool to see that kind of behind the scenes stuff. Stuff because there's always so much hearsay. So it's kind of cool to see how when something real that you can't produce happens in real time and they happen to be filming and you get.

[Brie Bella]

All of it, all of it. And well, and this is the thing is you don't have to just be a pro wrestler for anyone in any type of work. You, you never know when you're gonna be fired, released. And it's neat to hear Truth to where he was at when he found out and how he felt because I think of so, so many people of when they're released from their jobs, they're probably in those situations. It's not like they're like yay or you know, sitting around the phone waiting for it. And so it was really interesting, the whole breakdown of it.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah, I agree. I know it. It's going to be fun to dive into all that stuff and you know, it's going to be really cool to see because for Rumble you're always so excited to see everyone's gear, especially when it comes to the women, even though the men do it up as well. But obviously we all know when it comes to men and then when it comes to women, you're gonna get 60 iconic entrances and. And we know they're gonna happen because we had a clock. It gives us the countdown and then we get like, who's next? And so. And so I'm really excited to see that. But this is going to be so different for the women because as we.

[Brie Bella]

Know, they all have to be in cat suits. Right?

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

Or you can just show your.

[Nikki Bella]

We call them catsuits. Yeah. Yeah. What do they call? It's just. Yeah. Long, like a one full body.

[Brie Bella]

A full bodysuit or. Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

I don't know, something like that.

[Brie Bella]

Only their can be exposed. Right.

[Nikki Bella]

But so to see so many of.

[Brie Bella]

Our women, it's gonna be really fun to see.

[Nikki Bella]

No, that's what I'm saying. I can't wait to see it.

[Brie Bella]

That's really interesting.

[Nikki Bella]

It makes It, I think, for a very, very special Royal Rumble, which I'm very excited about. And then, of course, as the matches start to build, to see what other title matches we will get, which will be. It'll be a lot of fun. I mean, people are already right now saying how they're going in. Like, they're gonna be in the Rumble. It's already started.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, I saw it this past raw.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah. It already got a lot of people saying they're gonna be in it.

[Brie Bella]

Yep. So that's fun. This is such a great time for wrestling because you. The build to Rumble and then what happens after Rumble, which then starts the build to WrestleMania. I feel like as a wrestling fan, this is our season.

[Nikki Bella]

This is our season.

[Brie Bella]

This is our season where we all get to make our predictions.

[Nikki Bella]

Football comes to get in June, and wrestling's on the rise. You know, I agree. It is a very, very well, think.

[Brie Bella]

Of someone even like you. I mean, this is kind of your anniversary of being with WWE for a year, which is so cool. Right?

[Nikki Bella]

I mean, it's kind of flown for you. It's flown. It. It's the. I mean, it's been good to, like, you know, decompress the past few weeks, but it's flown so much. And I think of, like, my growth and where I started and where I'm at and how close I become with everyone and just to be back home, like, I feel truth. You know, it. It's. We've all been there for very, very, very long time, and so WWE becomes home. So when you get those feels of, you know, when it's gone or all the things. But. Yeah. I can't believe it's been like a year.

[Brie Bella]

Wow.

[Nikki Bella]

It's increasing. I mean, it is just truly incredible. I know we've kind of touched on this. Of the amount of growth you can have in a year.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, beyond.

[Nikki Bella]

You know.

[Brie Bella]

Yep.

[Nikki Bella]

It truly is wild to me because.

[Brie Bella]

I just think of someone's life. Right.

[Nikki Bella]

Because it was just a week or two ago when everyone was posting I think it was two weeks ago when everyone was posting my debut at when I think we've been a year now on Netflix.

[Brie Bella]

Wow.

[Nikki Bella]

Because think I. That's when everyone first saw me. I was in the crowd.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, that's right.

[Nikki Bella]

And so everyone was saying, like, how crazy to think this is when we saw Nikki a year ago.

[Brie Bella]

That's crazy.

[Nikki Bella]

Wild girl.

[Brie Bella]

It really is. All right, well, I'm excited for this guest, so I say without fear. Further ado, our guest we're having today. I mean, he's not just a WWE Superstar. He is family to Nikki and I. He's someone who's been a part of our journey, our locker room, and our lives for many, many, many years. His heart, his humor, and his resilience has made him one of the most loved Superstars in WWE history. We are so excited to welcome the one and only Ron Killings are Truth. Truth. Yes.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Ah, shoot. I knew y' all gonna come on when I got back. Can y' all hear me?

[Brie Bella]

Yeah, we can hear you. Can you hear us?

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Yeah. Okay.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, my gosh.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

I ain't seen you in forever. Years, right?

[Brie Bella]

Years. I mean, you definitely haven't seen me.

[Nikki Bella]

For years and years. I mean, when was the last time you saw Truth?

[Brie Bella]

I don't know. Truth, when was the last time I saw you?

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Oh, my goodness.

[Nikki Bella]

You know what I think it was? I think the last time you probably saw Truth, Bruce. Probably before 2020.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, my gosh. Truth.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Are you serious?

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah, I want to say yeah.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, my God. And I look the same, right?

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Oh, no. I wish everybody said to be nice. You know what I'm saying? A little jokey joke thing.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

You look good, too. Y' all looking good. Well, I see you all the time now, Nick.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah, you do.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, my gosh. It's so crazy.

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, yeah. It's been so good.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

I told Nikki this last week, week before. We the last of all kinds, kind of. Right?

[Nikki Bella]

No, honestly, we are right.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Way back, way back. Way back when I was trying to get y' all on my computer, but my computer was. I just did the breakfast morning club earlier today.

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, yeah? How'd that go?

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Yes, very well.

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, good.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Just telling it how tit is, you know?

[Nikki Bella]

We know.

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[Brie Bella]

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[Nikki Bella]

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[Nikki Bella]

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[Brie Bella]

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[Nikki Bella]

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[Nikki Bella]

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[Brie Bella]

Wayfair. Every style, every home. Well, so great to see you. You know what? The first memory that always pops up when I think of you. Do you remember when we were overseas, we were touring, and Nikki and I left you that wine on your seat, And you were like, no, no. We always wanted to get truth drunk on wine.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Yeah. Y could go, though. I'm talking about. And walk straight line, no problem. Not miss a beat.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

I mean, totally had my respect.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Yeah. They would, like, get me, like, I would take a couple sips here and this and that. Then I get shot once I got, like, good and right. Bell was just not getting started. Like, nah, truth, that's just. That was just advertising. We have more left. Oh, my God.

[Brie Bella]

So true. Oh, my God.

[Nikki Bella]

I miss those days.

[Brie Bella]

I do. The day.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

I know, right?

[Brie Bella]

Or the chaos.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah, I agree.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Everything's different. Everything's changed, but still the same.

[Brie Bella]

Still the same. That's. You know, every time I feel like I go backstage at wwe, I'm like, oh, it's like Groundhog Day.

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, yeah.

[Brie Bella]

It feels like you don't skip a beat when you go back there.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

No, you don't. You can't either.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah, it's.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

It's. It's different, but it's still the same. You know, how it was when y'. All when you was there. You know what I'm saying, Bri? Am I right? Nikki? It's the same. It's different, but you still. It's still the same.

[Nikki Bella]

Totally. There's a bit of a different vibe, but the structure, everything, the look, the crew ever. Everything's still the same.

[Brie Bella]

Wow.

[Nikki Bella]

It's just. And then there's some of us who've been there 20 years or longer, and then you got some of the new ones, but it's. It's the same. Wow.

[Brie Bella]

That's incredible.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

And it's cool to see the. The new ones learning the pattern, learning the into the out, the whole how the knobs and the machine work, you know, What I'm saying.

[Brie Bella]

Right.

[Nikki Bella]

Yes, I. I so agree with that.

[Brie Bella]

I could see that. Well, truth, I have to say, it's been really fun to see you on this new season of wwe. Unreal.

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, yeah. So how's that been, like. Because, I mean, that was a lot. A lot of stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

I mean, so heartfelt. Wow.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

The whole year. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. I mean, a couple. Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

No, you can cuss. You can cuss on this show. Yeah. Say whatever you want. Yeah, you cuss, you can vulgar. You can cuss.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah, you can say.

[Brie Bella]

You can say.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Oh, y' all got a good show. Okay, good. Let's get down to this.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah, you know it.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Yeah, it was. It was a roller coaster ride this whole year. I got a text from Chris Legento and he was like, oh, what a year, man. Happy birthday. And that was the first time I like, sat back and said, damn, it was a hell of a year. It was not just for me, but for a lot of people. You know what I'm saying? That revolved around me or that was like, had some type of connection with me. It was a hell of a year. But it ended with a boom. It ended with a smile just like a movie supposed to or a match with the good guy's hands raised with that sense of pride, that sense of that good feeling, you know what I'm saying? It ended well.

[Brie Bella]

It really did.

[Nikki Bella]

It did. It ended so well. And is it. How has it felt like reliving it and then also hearing. Because I feel like what some people say in the new season, like, they don't really say that to your face. Like, you know, they don't get that deep or get emotional with you. And so how has it been seen?

[Brie Bella]

You know, talents, reaction, fans reactions. Like, I even have goose.

[Nikki Bella]

I know. I have goosebumps, too.

[Brie Bella]

I mean, you obviously had the fans reaction when you got released and them chanting your name to have you back. But is it fun to rewatch it and then also see how much of the talent was upset that you were released?

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Yeah, it's Bri. My first time seeing it was like, I think yesterday I'm seeing some of the clips and it brought back some of the same emotions I had. It brought back some of the same. That same energy, you know what I'm saying? It moved. And I didn't know Cody said what he said. I knew by real. I didn't know some of the people felt the way they did, man. But I said this morning, sometimes we lose ourselves living life, but Life also our higher power, the universe, it gives us a way to like life will give us all these resources and tools that we have to grab at and use when certain times almost like that emergency break glass. And man, to sum it up for me, like to see my peers, my colleagues, I'm talking about all the way down to like the stagehands and the guys that's on the truck, the guys that, you know, the props guys and production and like every single aspect of what moves that machine inside. And the WWE Universe and just like worldwide twins, that was a hell of a emotion to embrace and embody. And I remember my son was behind me and I'm seeing the numbers go up and it's like at 15, I've never had a post go that high. And the post was a gratitude post. That's all it was. I wasn't jaded, I wasn't mad, I wasn't angry. I was, I was numb because I was surprised. I was shocked. I was. And I felt like I owed wwe. I owed the fans, some type of. I owed him something because that's a long ride to get. The response I got was a testament. My son said, damn, dad, it wasn't, it was, it was worth the dad. It wasn't all for nothing. And when my son said it wasn't for nothing, damn. Yeah, I broke down because then I started remembering the anniversaries, the birthdays, the standing up, doing a speech in school and the party. I missed a lot, you know what I'm saying? I've missed funerals, I've missed a lot dedicating myself to the road, to the business for over 25 years. And when my son said that, man, it just, ah, man. And when I got the overwhelming amount of love from the world, not only did that show me that it wasn't, it was all done for the right reason. The world responded. We all agreed on one thing. And I was like, so much came out of that. Not only just, you know, me getting my job back and me getting back into the groove, it reinvented me. It. It breathed life into me. It made the S on my chest light up. It. We forget who we are sometimes. And I was reminded, and I was reminded how loved I am. I was reminded how, how much I'm worth to a lot of people, how much, I mean to a lot of people. And we've all been there. I'm sure we have. We all felt self worth. We all felt like we're not good enough or we're not this. That man. Y', all that this whole year summed it up for me with that overwhelming amount of response from the people. And it was just love.

[Nikki Bella]

When you deserve that truth. I mean, it's be. It just shows. It's such a testament to show not only your talent, your impact in the ring, but what you've done outside the ring. Like, you've always been so good to everyone. You treat everyone the same. You're so funny, but you've always been, like, just such a great person, like, an amazing person. And people need to see that. Like, yeah. See, when you're good to people and you're a good human, this is the response that you get from the world. And it's just. I've loved that. And I love how protective your son is of you on social.

[Brie Bella]

Like, it's so cute. He.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Man, say your ass off of social media, man. Like, what are you doing? Right?

[Nikki Bella]

But I'm obsessed with it. And I am, like. Like, Mateo better be doing that for me when he's older, you know he will.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

And he's.

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, yeah.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

And I didn't get. I can't get mad at him. He's. That's. That's my dude, man. Like, when I was a single parent driving back and forth to Tennessee, you know, I was driving back and forth 10 hours a week. Cause I was a single parent to take care of him. My mom would watch him for me. Like, he's been on the road with me. He's seen me go through ups and downs. He's seen me. So, yeah, he's gonna react when something happened to dad. You know what I'm saying? I don't wanna get too emotional about it, but, yeah, that's. That dude, he's like. And I still see him. I'm 54, Nikki. And I still see him as. And he'll post a picture with me when he was. He would love to cut the grass when he was little. And I said, man, for some reason, my mind. I know you're. You're 24, but my mind see you still as that kid couldn't grab the lawnmower. And I always see you as that. All my kids. So when people say, yeah, you don't age because my mind stops there. And I had to live life. But I will always see my kids and my. You know what I'm saying? Like, as that. And I'm sure y' all feel the same way.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, my gosh.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, yeah. It's weird even him being five and a half. And he'll do things And I just see that baby in him. Like there's certain things he does and I just see that.

[Brie Bella]

Right.

[Nikki Bella]

And I feel like this 5 age I'll always see like the older he gets, I'm just gonna always see this.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Always see that, what he does. Right?

[Brie Bella]

Yeah, always.

[Nikki Bella]

Yes, I know what you mean. And oh my goodness, it's, it's just, it's crazy. Being a parent is one of the greatest things ever. And even though what we do takes us away a lot, but it's cute because you realize like they grew up looking up to us too, just like the fans do and they get to see even more.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Yes.

[Nikki Bella]

And it makes them into such great people.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

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[Brie Bella]

Well, and talking about seeing more truth, we need to talk about your album that you dropped in August. The White Album. I mean country, baby. Yes, yes. What inspired you to do country, Bri?

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

I got a friend named Alexander King, right? And he and I, he introduced me to Jelly Roll. Him and Jelly Roll grew up together. And he said, man, Jelly got big when he started doing that music that pull at people heartstrings, that make them feel your music is cool, your rap music is cool. He said, but if you do a country song, he said, you're your audience is kind of country. Is it?

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

N you country. You grew up in Georgia, Tennessee. Like, he said, do one country song and thank me later. So I told J Trax, my producer manager, I said, hey man, Alex said we should do a country song. He said, let's do a whole album. And we was talking about the album, what kind of song, what kind of vibe. And I said, I don't want it to be the traditional, the typical. I want it to be different, blah, blah. And I said, oh shoot, we call that shit the White Album because it's all country. And we started laughing. And he said, the White Album. He said, why would you call it the White Album? I said, have you heard it yet? And so it's just as dark as I am with the White Album. I think it fits.

[Brie Bella]

It's so good, right?

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Have you heard it yet?

[Nikki Bella]

I've only heard one song, but we. We head to the airport a little bit, and I'm playing the whole thing.

[Brie Bella]

The whole thing.

[Nikki Bella]

I gotta hear.

[Brie Bella]

Please, please love country.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Y' all gotta bring me back on and tell me and talk about it.

[Nikki Bella]

Yes.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, we for sure will. Well, I feel like you need to do. Because WrestleMania is in Las Vegas. You have to do a live performance somewhere.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

I'm hoping so. And I'm gonna sneak. I was gonna say this to early on the Breakfast Morning Club, but I forgot about it. I know y' all know who Metro booming is, right? Futures. Futures producer.

[Nikki Bella]

Yes.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

He and I got a song. We done it already.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, my gosh.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Yes. And that would be one dope to put out to do WrestleMania. And we talked about it a little bit. Performing at WrestleMania would be like, almost like I hit the jackpot. It's. And it's.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

You looking at somebody who came from a pipe dream, you know what I'm saying? I wanted to be this big rap star, and a guy met me in a halfway house that he never gave back before. He wanted to give back to me because I had this thing that the world would love, and I didn't have no direction in life. I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life. I didn't go to college to play sports. I wanted to live this career out. It wasn't working out. And I did something outside. I went against the grain. I did something. I had no knowledge of professional wrestling, and I got bit by the bug, and I fell in love with it. They accepted me. I would go out and do my rap music, and I would sing country. When I first started in the Independence and to, like, come full circle now to where we're talking about. I've done so many good, so much good music. To perform at WrestleMania would be like almost like the chef. The chef's kiss on that.

[Brie Bella]

You know what I'm saying?

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Yes. So, yeah, we're gonna speak that into existence.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah, we are.

[Brie Bella]

You know what? All of the WWE fans, you guys were loud for our truth before. Get loud for him again. We need to see you perform. We need to see you perform. I mean, I still sing all the time. I'll be like, what's?

[Nikki Bella]

Up?

[Brie Bella]

I mean, you always had such catchy music. I love it.

[Nikki Bella]

It was the best.

[Brie Bella]

And also, all your one liners. No, at all. At all. And still to this day, one of my favorite gimmicks is Jimmy. When you had Jimmy.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Oh, my gosh, Bri. People still ask me about little Jimmy. How long? That's 15 years ago, right? Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

And little Jimmy was the best today.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Someone asked me about little Jimmy today.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, my God.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Do you remember? I would have people taking grown people that pay bills, that have kids. They would say, hey, can we take a picture with little Jimmy? You know, can we sit with. Where's he at? Where's he at? You want to sit with him? Yes. They would sit beside it. They would sit in the chair and do their arm, and I would snap the picture for him. What did he say? Oh, he's laughing. He likes it. Yes.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. You're the best. Literally, the best. Also, this other memory I have to say of you that we were laughing at earlier is. It was the first time they introduced Twitter tests. We're all, like, in a big room and they're talking about Twitter, and I can't remember what was said, but you got up and you were like, it's not what you don't do, it's what you do do.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

And we all cried, laughing.

[Brie Bella]

And I still say it to this day.

[Nikki Bella]

We say it all the time. Like, it's been one of Brie nice things for, like, I swear, over 15 years. I know something will be hard, and we'll look at each other and we'll be like, it's not what you don't.

[Brie Bella]

Do, it's what you do do. So.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

So. Oh, that's great. I miss y'. All. And for people that don't know me and the Bellas was like that. Like, we would gossip, we would just kick it, but we was like. That was like family. Like, right, Right.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah. Like family.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Yes.

[Nikki Bella]

And you know what? It's. We. We connected where we could look at each other and we knew what was going on, and we could just. We knew. Exactly.

[Brie Bella]

We knew.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Didn't even have to say no. We could just look at each other. Right?

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

Yep. Yeah. Because us three got put on a lot of weird appearances together, too, where we all were like, okay, you know.

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, my God.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Yes. A lot of them. Yes.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

So good.

[Nikki Bella]

This is the best.

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[Ron Killings (Truth)]

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[Ron Killings (Truth)]

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[Ron Killings (Truth)]

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[Ron Killings (Truth)]

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[Ron Killings (Truth)]

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[Nikki Bella]

Okay, Truth, we're going to play a game with you, and then we're going to get inspo from you, and then we'll let you go. So this game, let's do it. It's called Truth or Truth. It's rapid fire. No pressure, of course. Ten rapid fire questions. One thing you're grateful for today.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Life.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah. I feel that. Something you absolutely cannot leave the house without.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Something I can't leave the house without.

[Nikki Bella]

Like what? He lies.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

I don't know if I can say that on here.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Commercial Narrator]

I know.

[Brie Bella]

Anyone see the eyes again? We all know.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Yes. You know what I'm talking about, right?

[Nikki Bella]

Yes.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

My phone.

[Nikki Bella]

Okay. Yeah, that's. Yep. I think everyone. Right. Yeah. Are you early on time or always late?

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Damn. Why y' all gonna fold me like that?

[Brie Bella]

I know. I was gonna say, I think I can answer that.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Early on my own time. I'm always late. I'm. I'll be pushing it. I'll be pushing it. I'm doing better. Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

I'm the same.

[Brie Bella]

But you know what, Truth? I'm gonna tell you this. Now that I'm a parent, I feel like as parents, we're always late, so.

[Nikki Bella]

You're not always late. We're pushing it.

[Brie Bella]

We're pushing it. We're always pushing.

[Nikki Bella]

A good reason.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

And we're always preaching to our kids to be on time.

[Nikki Bella]

Yes, I know.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Don't do as I do. Do as I say do. Right. Yes.

[Brie Bella]

There you go.

[Nikki Bella]

Exactly. Got that.

[Brie Bella]

Dude. I'm going to say that now for the next 15 years.

[Nikki Bella]

Honestly. Describe the Royal Rumble in one word.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

One word.

[Nikki Bella]

I know that's kind of hard.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

No, it's not really the word I was looking for. I mean, I can use the anxiety right now because. Yeah, you people are like, who's. Who's next? Who's going to be. Who's they got to have a surprise. There's so much talk about it to where it builds up. Anxiety. It builds up. What am I looking. Anxiety is the best word I can think of right now.

[Brie Bella]

Suspense. Yeah.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Suspenseful.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Suspenseful.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah. One thing you always forget, no matter how hard you try.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

What? I always forget to be on time.

[Nikki Bella]

Oh, my God, I love it. Something that instantly puts you in a good mood. I don't know why.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

A good vibe.

[Nikki Bella]

A good vibe. Yep.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, we love good vibes.

[Nikki Bella]

Good vibes, for sure.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Yes.

[Nikki Bella]

One, right? Yeah. One Daily habit. You're trying to be better at.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Being on time.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah, I like that.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Time is winning this right now.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah.

[Nikki Bella]

Time is winning.

[Brie Bella]

It is.

[Nikki Bella]

The most confident mistake you've ever made.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

The most what?

[Nikki Bella]

Confident mistake you've ever made.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

The most confident mistake I've ever made. Damn, that's hard.

[Nikki Bella]

I know.

[Brie Bella]

That is.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Actually, I'm trying to make the most confident mistake.

[Nikki Bella]

I don't even.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

I was, I guess, putting. Put lemon on my wallet. Miller. Than liking it.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

Okay. There you go.

[Nikki Bella]

I like that.

[Brie Bella]

It'd be really good.

[Nikki Bella]

No, but have you tried real good?

[Brie Bella]

No, have you?

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

How you like it? You take this.

[Brie Bella]

Okay. We're gonna do that.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Yeah. On the watermelon.

[Brie Bella]

Okay.

[Nikki Bella]

I'm gonna do that while I listen to your country album.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Dude, I'm serious.

[Brie Bella]

Okay. We're gonna do it. Chili powder.

[Nikki Bella]

Okay.

[Brie Bella]

I like. We will.

[Nikki Bella]

Let's see. What's harder, the physical grind or the mental pressure?

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

The mental pressure.

[Nikki Bella]

I agree.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Because sometimes we be our own enemy. We'd be our own setback. We'd be our own downfall. That mental pressure could. Can. It can burn you up or it can make you hot. You know what I'm saying? I think we'll get. We will adapt to the physical part of the grind. You know what I'm saying? Naturally, once we get this in tune with that and with our emotions and then the physical become very easy.

[Nikki Bella]

It's so true.

[Brie Bella]

So true.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Wow.

[Nikki Bella]

Because even when you realize sometimes what can prevent you from the physical grind is the mental part, Right?

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

The mental leads. That's the brain. It's almost like the battery. The battery in. In a working organism or anything. It's. It's. If you ain't got that, nothing else is intact.

[Nikki Bella]

It's so true. My goodness. Okay, last one. A food that everyone else seems to love, but you absolutely hate.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

How much time we got. I'm gonna say this. I know y' all go. I know. I know y' all gonna look at me funny when I say this right here. Avocado.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, my God. Really crazy. I love avocado.

[Nikki Bella]

I mean, you don't like guacamole and chips?

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

No, no.

[Brie Bella]

Greatest like baby food.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

It reminds me of baby food.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

You know what I'm saying?

[Brie Bella]

I guess I could see that for sure. Well, that's my favorite type of baby food.

[Nikki Bella]

Mine too.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Okay.

[Brie Bella]

Talk about squeezing lemon next time I see y'.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

All.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Oh, yeah.

[Brie Bella]

And then we gotta talk about it, actually. I'll make you some guacamole.

[Nikki Bella]

I'll make you homemade guacamole. You're freaking Latina and you always say wok.

[Brie Bella]

Okay, Guac. Guacamole.

[Nikki Bella]

She's Mexican and always says guacamole.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, my gosh.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Right?

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah. Rock with a G. She says it with, like, a W. We got that.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

All truth syndrome, you know?

[Brie Bella]

What can I say? But we all knew what I meant.

[Nikki Bella]

Whatever.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

Oh, my gosh.

[Nikki Bella]

Truth.

[Brie Bella]

I miss you so much.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

I miss you, too.

[Brie Bella]

I know. Hopefully I get to see you soon.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

You know, hopefully our paths cross. And I hope it's not another five or six years.

[Nikki Bella]

No, hopefully. Russell Manual. You guys will see each other.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah, I'm. We're gonna be doing some wine events there, so.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Oh, I'm staying away from y'. All.

[Nikki Bella]

At least come. But maybe we. We could do a little acoustic set from the Series XM Studios. We'll make sure there's.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Yes. I'm for real.

[Nikki Bella]

You know what I mean?

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

I got a guitar player. Y' all can drink. All bring the wine. Y' all drink the wine. I do a coy set to the White Album. Any song.

[Brie Bella]

We would love that. Okay. You're definitely booking.

[Nikki Bella]

You okay? Yes.

[Brie Bella]

Good. We are doing that. So we always love to leave our listeners with little inspiration and affirmation. Is there a quote or a motto you live by?

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Oh, man. Yeah. There's a lot I live by. One that kind of really resonate with me that Cena told me and he didn't tell me. It's like, maybe three years ago, but it took me to be a grown man to like. And he said truth one heel at a time. And it resonated with me. Like, damn. I try to do so much. I try to like whether it's pleased or whether it's accomplished. I try to do so much. Focus on one thing, get that done, and move on to the next. So.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

Yeah.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

One hill at a time.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

I love that. It's.

[Nikki Bella]

It's so true. What I've realized is. And, you know, he used to tell me that a lot, too. And I remember thinking like, he told you that, too? Yes. And so. Because my focus, especially when we started filming Divas and then Bellas and then being the Divas champion, there was just so much. And so what I realized is just be great at being Nikki Bella, and then the championship became great, and then I was great on Total Divas and then Total Bellas. Like, when you can make the one thing very great and you have that foundation, it's crazy how the other things.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Just constantly fall in place. Yes.

[Nikki Bella]

Fall in place. Yep.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Yes.

[Nikki Bella]

So I. It's great advice. Very great advice.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Very good advice. One heel at a time.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

One heel at a time.

[Nikki Bella]

One heel at a time.

[Brie Bella]

Well, thank you so much, Truth, for coming on the show. Yeah, we love you. We always love you.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Yeah, I love y'.

[Nikki Bella]

All.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

We'll always be family. Y' all know that, right?

[Brie Bella]

Always. Oh, yes. Always.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

That's what's up. Yes.

[Nikki Bella]

Yeah.

[Brie Bella]

Yes.

[Nikki Bella]

And hopefully, I know we both can't say it, but maybe we just may see each other in Saudi. So we'll see.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

You know that, right? Yes.

[Nikki Bella]

You know, we'll see. We'll see if we see each other on that charter.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

You know that's right.

[Brie Bella]

Yes.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Let's do it. Let's do it.

[Brie Bella]

Let's do it.

[Nikki Bella]

Let's go. All right. Oh, I love you, Truth.

[Brie Bella]

Okay.

[Ron Killings (Truth)]

I love you. All right, see y'. All. Y', all, too. Bye. Bye.

[Nikki Bella]

Thanks.

[Brie Bella]

Bye.

[Nikki Bella]

Okay, everyone, well, to see this episode and videos, make sure to look on the Nikki and Brie Show, IG page, Tick Tock, Facebook, and make sure to call us at 8:33 Garcia 2 Nikki and Briso is also on Sirius XM Stars 109. All right, Bri. Well, until next time, I say let's get ready to rumble. Well, at least me my joke.

[Commercial Narrator]

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[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Dang it.

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[Ron Killings (Truth)]

Oh, how about this one?

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[Ron Killings (Truth)]

New year, same extra value meals at McDonald's so now get two snack wraps plus fries and a medium soft drink for just $8 for a limited time only. Persons and participation may vary. Prices may be higher in Hawaii, Alaska and California. And for delivery.