
On this episode of The Nikki & Brie Show, the twins are joined by reality TV favorite and all-around Southern sweetheart Brittany Cartwright from The Valley and Vanderpump Rules! From the moment they sit down, it feels like they’ve known each other forever—and nothing’s off the table. They get into everything from motherhood and co-parenting to starting over, setting boundaries, and dating again while in the public eye. Brittany shares what it's been like navigating her most intense season of reality TV yet, how she’s handling life post-Jax and why she refuses to be silenced. The conversation gets real about divorce, mom guilt, dating apps, and the beauty of raising strong boys—even when life gets messy. They also dive into home decor dreams, viral headlines, The Valley vs. Vanderpump, and Brittany’s dream Samantha-era (we LOVE a Sex and the City reference). Plus, the twins open up about being each other’s biggest support systems and why every woman deserves a life she’s proud of...
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Brie Bella
All right, you guys, guess what's coming to Prime Video May 29.
Nikki Bella
Ooh, the better Sister.
Brie Bella
That's right, Bri.
Nikki Bella
Who do you think the Better sister is between us?
Brie Bella
I mean. Duh. Just kidding. All right, everyone, you're not gonna want to miss this incredible star studded cast of Jessica Beale and Elizabeth B. Banks. It's definitely a must watch.
Nikki Bella
I wonder who the better sister is between them both.
Brie Bella
Ooh, who'd you say my money's on?
Nikki Bella
Elizabeth Banks.
Brie Bella
Ooh. And my money's on Jessica Biel. The Better Sister is based on the beloved novel by best selling author Olafair Burke. And get ready because it's a must watch.
Nikki Bella
Here's a peek at what's in store.
Brie Bella
Chloe Taylor is a prominent public figure of the New York fast paced publishing world.
Nikki Bella
But when she comes home to the shocking murder of her husband, she must set aside her long standing differences with her estranged sister Nikki and her husband's ex. After her son becomes a prime suspect.
Brie Bella
As the two sisters try to untangle their complicated family history, they must work together to discover the truth behind the murder. Navigating a dangerous web of lies and secrets. We have to say, like, can you imagine if we were in this situation, like both being detectives trying to untangle the truth behind this murder?
Nikki Bella
I feel like I'm a great detective.
Brie Bella
Do you think. Do you think you'd be like the better detective out of the both of us?
Nikki Bella
For sure. I feel like I'm really, I'm great. Bird's eye views, so I always notice little things. I know when things are out of place. You have ocd, so you'd really know something's out of place for sure. Yeah.
Brie Bella
Imagine us with that big old bulletin board, like, we're gonna put this together.
Nikki Bella
Girl, you know it. All right, you guys, you want to be some detectives too? You're not going to want to miss this show.
Brie Bella
Yes, don't miss it. The Better Sister is streaming On Prime Video May 29. All right, everyone, welcome back to the Nikki and Brie Show. And today's guest knows the ins and outs of reality TV just like we do. You've seen her on Vanderpump Rules, and you currently can find her on The Valley Season 2. Of course, it's Tuesday nights on Bravo and streaming right now on Peacock and the very next day. And you can catch new episodes of her pod. When reality hits on Fridays.
Nikki Bella
And it hits, it hits.
Brie Bella
Everyone, please welcome Britney Cartwright to the Nikki and Brie Show.
Brittany Cartwright
Hello, ladies. Hello, Britney. Thanks so much for coming.
Nikki Bella
Yes, thank you for coming on.
Brittany Cartwright
Excited?
Brie Bella
It's so fun because it's Brie and I. I mean, I've known the Vanderpump crew, like, I've known all of you for so long.
Brittany Cartwright
I love how everyone thinks, like, I've known you, you know what I mean, from reality.
Brie Bella
It's crazy. And it's like. And we became, you know, kind of close with Katie. We're really close with Joey, her brother.
Brittany Cartwright
Oh, yeah.
Brie Bella
And then Ariana, we've known. But, like, so now it's really fun to meet you. It's just right, Bri. It's like, just crazy. Yes. We love it.
Nikki Bella
Yeah. I feel like your whole cast, like, you guys are all, like, standout stars.
Brittany Cartwright
Oh, wow. Thank you.
Nikki Bella
It's really fun to, like, you know, slowly get to meet everybody and it's incredible.
Brittany Cartwright
We've been doing it for a long time.
Brie Bella
A long time.
Brittany Cartwright
I've been in LA for 10 years now, which is unheard of for me. You know, coming from Kentucky, I never thought I would be doing all this stuff, so I love it. Just a whirlwind.
Nikki Bella
Do you miss Kentucky?
Brittany Cartwright
I wouldn't live there again probably, unless it's, like, I'm retiring way down the road. I've got grandkids or something. Like, maybe that. But I have to go visit at least, like, four or five times a year. I'm super close with my family, so I love that. Yeah.
Nikki Bella
So yesterday was Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day to you, too. How was your Mother's Day?
Brittany Cartwright
It was great. I went to brunch at the Beverly Hilton Hotel. They had, like, a seafood tower and, like, all that good stuff. So, like, crab legs and everything. And I went with Janet from the Valley and Lala from Vanderpump Rules and all of our kids.
Nikki Bella
Oh, my God, how fun.
Brittany Cartwright
And then I just spent the day, like, in the backyard in my pool with my son Cruz.
Brie Bella
It's always perfect that way. That was like, us. We were chill. That's how we were Saturday, pool day.
Brittany Cartwright
Because it was so hot this weekend.
Brie Bella
I mean, even in Napa.
Nikki Bella
But don't you think it's crazy that it was so hot and then today's freezing.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah. Oh, yeah. My son was wearing sweatpants and a hoodie to go to school this morning. So I was like, what's happening?
Brie Bella
Yes, it is.
Nikki Bella
Like, we were all just sweating yesterday and they're wearing. Yeah, my kids were wearing.
Brie Bella
I mean, it literally rained in Napa today.
Nikki Bella
I know.
Brie Bella
It like.
Brittany Cartwright
Oh, it did. Wow.
Brie Bella
I was. There was rainbows. I was like, oh, my goodness. All the way up to Oakland. I know, right?
Nikki Bella
No, and in wine country, you actually. To see where they land or like, the ending of it. There's never a pot of gold.
Brie Bella
We can never say pot of gold to our kids because you could actually see the end of the rainbow in the vineyard.
Brittany Cartwright
Hand in it.
Brie Bella
We haven't done that yet. Which we need to.
Nikki Bella
If we didn't have car service this morning, I literally, if I was driving, I would have pulled over and done something. Cuz I go, it's right there. It's like done right there.
Brie Bella
I could.
Nikki Bella
Yeah, that's the special part of wine.
Brie Bella
Country, which I love. Okay, well, Britney, I have to ask you. So season two's been out. How has life been after filming and how everything, you know, everything being out there.
Brittany Cartwright
Yes.
Brie Bella
You've made a lot of headlines.
Brittany Cartwright
This has definitely been the hardest I've been on eight seasons of reality tv. This has definitely been the hardest I've ever filmed.
Nikki Bella
Really?
Brittany Cartwright
Yes.
Nikki Bella
Why?
Brittany Cartwright
Well, season one, me and my husband Jax, we were still together and I, we like, brought the cameras back up to film our. Our separation.
Brie Bella
Right.
Brittany Cartwright
So it was like just one episode this whole season. You see, like, the downfall, how bad it's been, what we all went through. Me, I wasn't even living in the house anymore, fighting constantly. He goes to rehab. I mean, it's just was. It's a lot of drama, but it's my real life and it's what happened to me. So I don't care to, like, talk about it, even though it's hard to do it all publicly, but I feel like I can help so many other women by, like, being open and honest with my story and help people get out of, like, toxic relationships and stuff. So that's been something that, like, keeps me strong when people are like, why are you talking about so much? I'm like, well, first off, it's not my fault. He knew we were filming and he still did all the stupid crap. So I'm gonna Talk about what happened.
Nikki Bella
Obviously, I 100% agree with you. I feel like some of us are put on earth to be the ones, the poster children, to show, like, real relationships, why we're reality stars. Like, we all showcase it, and then we all have to take the hard part of it. Dealing with, you know, social media, reliving the moments, that's always the hardest.
Brittany Cartwright
Right.
Nikki Bella
But I feel like it's almost a gift we've all been given, being able to be that brave and courageous to do it.
Brie Bella
Yeah. Yeah. And how has it been like, with your relationship with Jax when everything, like, airs, like, still, like, good terms, not good terms. Does it bring things up?
Brittany Cartwright
Things definitely still get brought back up. I feel like I'm personally in a better place now. Like, I feel it helped me be stronger in a weird way. I always say it helped, like, hold me accountable because it was on TV and it, like, you know, the whole world judging you and everything else. Like, I can. I feel like I hold a mirror up to myself, and I'm like, I can never go back.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
You know, but with me and Jax, it's just. It's just a roller coaster. It's always up and down. He's in this phase right now where he's like, please stop talking about me. Stop talking about me. And I'm like, again, you did all this stuff when you knew the cameras were around, so I have to talk about it, you know, And I don't want to be silenced ever, so I'm gonna speak my truth.
Brie Bella
Good for you. Good. And are you guys officially divorced?
Brittany Cartwright
No, it still has not been finalized yet.
Brie Bella
Okay.
Brittany Cartwright
I'm hoping it will soon. Just, you know, he waits till the last second for everything. I don't know, like, if he weirdly thinks that I'm gonna call it off or something one day. I don't know. It's weird how he waited till the very last day to, like, sign, you know, whenever I wanted to even get the process going.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
Waited till the very last day, messed up on all the paperwork, did, like, all this stuff, and now it just seems like he just keeps doing stuff to prolong it.
Brie Bella
And lawyer bills are such a. Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
I have a great lawyer.
Brie Bella
Like, nice.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah, you'll see her on the Valley this season. And she, like, is, like, amazing. She's, like, strong and tough, and I just, like, love her, you know, she made me laugh whenever I was in there talking about getting a divorce, and I was like, I like you, you know?
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
This such a serious thing. But, like, I could tell she's like a girl's girl and she like really has my back.
Brie Bella
Oh my gosh. I love that. It's so. I mean there. My divorce just got finalized. What like last week.
Brittany Cartwright
How long did it take?
Nikki Bella
It took.
Brie Bella
I felt like pretty quick. I mean I filed for divorce. Sep. I mean, I guess it would have been end of August or beginning of September was pretty quick. And so I feel like when we really got things going, it, I mean, right. Would have been. Well, no. September.
Nikki Bella
No, it was right after Labor Day. You filed.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Nikki Bella
So I think that's September.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Nikki Bella
First week of September.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Brie Bella
So up until last week.
Brittany Cartwright
Wow.
Brie Bella
Finalized with the courts, nothing. That's it.
Brittany Cartwright
Like, you feel okay?
Brie Bella
I do.
Brittany Cartwright
Okay, good.
Brie Bella
You know, it was funny because my mom said like, she's like, I think you were on the group text.
Nikki Bella
Mom was like, yay. But then she was like, wait, are you okay?
Brie Bella
Like this can feel weird or different. I go, I feel great.
Brittany Cartwright
Okay, good.
Brie Bella
I feel really good and happy. I mean the main thing, I'm so happy not to pay any more lawyer bills.
Brittany Cartwright
Yes.
Brie Bella
And cuz that was just so hard. Just, you know, they rack up so quick and when they take their time on getting back, it's just all that time is money. But I, I feel free. Like I just. Yeah. I have this freedom of like I knew I kind of already had it, but there's something about it being official because that was like the crazy part to me. Like through this whole process, it's so easy to get married, but how hard it is to get divorced.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah. In California I think it's even tougher.
Brie Bella
Even tougher.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Brie Bella
Especially when you have a kid.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Brie Bella
You know.
Nikki Bella
Oh my goodness.
Brittany Cartwright
He's not really fighting me on a lot of stuff, so that's good.
Brie Bella
Okay.
Brittany Cartwright
But it's more like he's just not wanting it to be final. If that makes sense.
Brie Bella
Totally.
Nikki Bella
Oh, that does.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Brie Bella
Cuz the hope it's true.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Brie Bella
You know.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah. It's weird. I don't know how I'm going to feel when it actually is final. Like it's 10 years I was with this guy.
Brie Bella
Wow.
Brittany Cartwright
So I don't know if I'm going to be sad. I feel like I will have like a sense of relief.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
But he is the father of my child. So like, what's really going to change? You know? Like I don't know how it's going to be.
Brie Bella
Yeah. And how's co parenting going? Oh, oh really? I mean it's a struggle.
Brittany Cartwright
It's a struggle because we have been through so much, so there's a lot of, like, resentment there for me. And I'm trying my best for my son to, like, not do that.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
You know, but it's hard whenever you're arguing with somebody all the time, just like, here's my precious baby, you know, and every time he comes over, he wants to, like, start some weird argument or it's just been a whole thing. A whole thing.
Brie Bella
That's hard. Yeah, it's. Well, and like you said, state of California makes it. It makes it so much harder here. But that's probably. I mean, how many times Bri would. When I knew I was dropping Mateoff at school and I wouldn't see him for a few days, I'd walk over to her and Brian. They'd be getting coffees or at their house because they're right by Mateo school, and I'd be bawling, crying. It's hard. It's gotten a lot better, I have to say. And I. Because Artem and I are doing better in co parenting. Like, we're just both, like, all about Mateo. Like, the relationship's all about him and what's best for him. So that's been nice. But it is. It can be such a struggle. And it's a.
Brittany Cartwright
Especially if you're fighting, you know.
Brie Bella
Oh, and I can't imagine then handing your kid over.
Brittany Cartwright
Well, the weird thing about, you know, doing it, you know, in the public eye is a lot of the girls that he's been, like, hooking up with and stuff, like, send me screenshots of their text messages, their DMs, pictures in my bed, like, a bunch of, like, horrible things. So I have to read the messages that he's sending. And it's been, like, at least four different women that have done that to me. Not just one, but what's the nerve.
Nikki Bella
Of the women I know? What do they want out of it is an ego satisfaction.
Brittany Cartwright
He, like, love bombs them, and then. Because he's a narcissist. Yeah, he is. He will. He will admit that a lot of them in Hollywood. Yes.
Nikki Bella
Breed them shoe.
Brittany Cartwright
Gosh. But he love bombs really hard. And they think that they're going to be, like, in a relationship with him, and then he drops them in a couple of days, and then they send me the screenshots and the messages. I don't know if they're trying to get him in trouble or try to get me on their side or what, but I'm like, I just wrote back to one girl, and I was like, he's not my problem anymore. Like, why are you sending this to me? I don't need to see this stuff.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
Especially the vulgar stuff. It's, it's a lot.
Brie Bella
I'm grateful I haven't had.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Brie Bella
Any of that. And so I'm grateful for that because that would be so hard. Especially like, if it was photos that I know my kid would be around, like.
Brittany Cartwright
Yes.
Brie Bella
Or our bed or whatever it would be. That would be awful.
Nikki Bella
I just think like, as a woman, I would never want to do that to another woman.
Brittany Cartwright
Exactly.
Nikki Bella
I'm trying to understand these women, their thought process behind it.
Brittany Cartwright
Like, are they, are they thirsty in a weird way? Like, wanting to be like, to expose him and get like the articles to pick it up and like different things like that. Or do they want their 15 seconds? I don't really know what it is.
Nikki Bella
Yes and yes, they are thirsty for those 15 seconds.
Brie Bella
It's crazy because I just can never imagine being like that.
Brittany Cartwright
Me either, you know? Never.
Brie Bella
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Brie Bella
I don't ever like when you start. Have you started dating?
Brittany Cartwright
A little bit.
Brie Bella
Okay. How was that, by the way?
Brittany Cartwright
Great. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I hadn't had like, attention or affection in my marriage for like a long time.
Brie Bella
Okay.
Brittany Cartwright
So I lost a lot of confidence and being like made to feel like beautiful again and like it really helped my confidence come back.
Brie Bella
Good for you.
Nikki Bella
I love that.
Brie Bella
Yeah, I love it. I've been on a few, but I was like, total opposite. Didn't like, like I needed the confidence booster and omen. Like, I definitely got that because I, I felt too like, like a certain lack of attention and just felt like I Was I lost myself and I needed to find me. And then I. I went on these. She pushed me, like, a lot to be like Nicole. Like, go. Like, when you're traveling, like, you're away from home, it's not around home. Just go and have fun. And in the end, they were just maybe not the right people.
Nikki Bella
No, they weren't the right people. Please let me pick them for you.
Brie Bella
Hey, you on one?
Nikki Bella
No, I did not.
Brie Bella
Okay, you're right.
Nikki Bella
Did not.
Brie Bella
Okay, you're right. They weren't.
Brittany Cartwright
I did not like them.
Nikki Bella
Yeah, I just. I feel like I could be your.
Brie Bella
Dating app if you ever need anyone to be vetted. Just, you know.
Brittany Cartwright
Are you, like, detective?
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
I mean, that's like Kristen Doty to me.
Nikki Bella
Oh, good.
Brie Bella
We love Kristen. She's the best.
Brittany Cartwright
She's my little detective. Good.
Nikki Bella
So she, like, interviews them too?
Brittany Cartwright
Oh, yeah.
Nikki Bella
And I don't give a. Like, I'll ask the questions that they don't want anyone to ever ask them.
Brittany Cartwright
Well, she'll just find out about whoever it is. She goes and looks up everything she possibly can. She'll even DM them.
Brie Bella
I love it. Good. And so would you ever remarry again?
Brittany Cartwright
I don't know if I would legally sign papers again.
Brie Bella
Oh, I'm the same.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Brie Bella
I won't do it.
Brittany Cartwright
I think, like, if I do fall in love with somebody and they've never been married and they want to have, like, a little something, I would, like, go to, like, a beach somewhere.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
Do something romantic, like something like that. But I don't think I'm ever going to sign papers again.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
And if I did, I would definitely sign a print up this time. Like a thousand percent.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
So who knows where life's going to take me? I'm not really sure, but I don't see it happening.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
For me.
Brie Bella
What is it? Because I know the bar. Like, you were going to open up a bar and that closed.
Brittany Cartwright
Yes.
Brie Bella
What. What else, like, would you love to have?
Brittany Cartwright
Oh, man, I love, like, home decor.
Brie Bella
Oh, really?
Nikki Bella
Yeah.
Brie Bella
Let's speak in that girl's language.
Brittany Cartwright
Would love to get some kind of line going. I loved especially, like, Christmas and. Hallo. Like, my garage is filled with these huge containers that are just completely, like, I can't even get a car in my garage because, oh, my gosh, Decorations, like, five Christmas trees. I decorate them all different every year. And it's just, like, it makes me, like, relax. It's like a stress reliever for me. And I would love to get into that world.
Nikki Bella
You need to do Michael's because they do the fun holiday, like, themes.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Brie Bella
Oh, they do.
Nikki Bella
So you should do something with them.
Brie Bella
How busy?
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Brie Bella
See Phillips. Because one year, every year.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Nikki Bella
Yeah, that would be perfect.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah. Come on, guys.
Brie Bella
Yeah. Hello.
Brittany Cartwright
Something like that I would love. I love, like, cooking, and I do a lot of stuff like that, too, so that's so nice. I'm just seeing where life takes me right now.
Brie Bella
I love that.
Nikki Bella
That's a great place to be.
Brie Bella
It's a fun place to be in. It's almost like I feel like we're kind of in the same boat. You have this, like, this new. What would you call it, Brie? Like, not life, but it's like you have this fresh start and it's, like, fun, but, like, we have our boys and as we all. We all have sons, like, that love. And I think that was like, when I'd be on a bad date, I'm like, my son gives me the greatest love ever. That I don't need this.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah. Yeah.
Brie Bella
I just want to go get his hugs and kisses and, like, I just love when you're cooking the kitchen, they come up and they grab your leg or whatever. And that feeling, it's just. I'm like, nothing is better than that. So. So I'm like, am I going to be single for so long? So he starts to ignore me. Then I'm going to be like, okay, now I need a man. Now I need my attention from somewhere else.
Brittany Cartwright
We're too hot to be single forever.
Brie Bella
That is true, actually. Good point.
Nikki Bella
And I. I will say there are really good men out there. Yes, they really are. Like, I married a really great man, but, like, there's a man who's going to support both of you. Going to be your biggest cheerleader.
Brie Bella
You're going to want, like, one out of the spotlight. You.
Nikki Bella
Yes.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah. I mean, I. Probably so. But also somebody that gets my life.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
Because I hope the Valley goes on for a long time. And honestly, whoever dates me, like, they might have to be a part of it eventually. Do you know what I mean? And, like, I need somebody to be able to support me in that way.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
You know, you need, like.
Nikki Bella
Like, kind of. Some of the housewives, I feel like, had really great husbands.
Brie Bella
Supporting men.
Nikki Bella
Supporting men that would come in and out.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Nikki Bella
They don't want to take the shine.
Brittany Cartwright
Exactly. Like, they don't have to be like a full cast member or anything, but, like, going on a couple days, group events. Ye stuff like, stuff like that would have to be for sure. Eventually a part of it.
Nikki Bella
Vanderpump has a great husband.
Brittany Cartwright
Yes.
Nikki Bella
You need something like. Yeah, you both need something like that.
Brittany Cartwright
Yes, I know.
Nikki Bella
Would you. What do you like better? Did you like filming Vanderpump better? Are you liking filming the Valley better?
Brittany Cartwright
Oh, my gosh. I've loved it all. Honestly. Vanderpump was fun because I didn't have, like, a kid or anything yet, so, like, there wasn't as much responsibility that went along with it. I was also a lot younger, but the Valley means a lot more to me because we started it brand new. I came on fourth season of Vanderpump, so I'm like an OG now, you know, but me and Jax really got to, like, write down a list of our friends and, like, revolve it around our real friend group, which, you know, everybody on Vanderpump is real friends, too. But it was great because we're all parents and going through different stages of our lives and engagements, marriages, divorces, trying to get pregnant, having kids. Like, there's just a lot more at stake with the Valley.
Brie Bella
I love that.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Brie Bella
You know, and I think it's so fun when you see your favorites evolve, like, in the reality world. Yes, for sure. Totally. I. I just. I love, love that because people. It's funny. Like, networks will always want so much new, and I'm like, you don't understand. Like, people get a touch of who they've seen, seen and grown up with. They want to see him evolve. Like Sex and the City. I loved when they came back with, like, their new show.
Brittany Cartwright
I love Sex in the City, one of my background shows, like, always. I have it on all the time. I know it's happening without having to look at it.
Brie Bella
Totally. And it's so crazy how I want.
Brittany Cartwright
To be like Samantha right now.
Brie Bella
Oh, me too.
Brittany Cartwright
You know, I need to be in my Samantha era.
Brie Bella
Yes. I'm like, when I've had my moments of that, I'm like, why does she make it look just. It always is so good. I'm like, it is.
Nikki Bella
Every lay is a good one.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Brie Bella
You know, like, even if it's not, like, how she gets out of it, but, like, her situations. But then I. What I've remembered is, see, Samantha never was a mom.
Brittany Cartwright
Very true.
Brie Bella
So, see, that's what made me think, like, oh, wait, because I'm always like, why is it so, like, amazing for Sylvie from, like, Emily in Paris? But then I realized, oh, they're not moms going into this.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah, that's true.
Brie Bella
So they're not tired. They're not worried. They're not thinking about things.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah, very true. I never thought of it like that.
Brie Bella
Yeah, so it's a little different.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah. Because it's a weird thing when you are trying to date again. Cause, like, mom guilt's also a big part, you know, you don't want to leave your kid ever, and that part's a little weird.
Brie Bella
Oh, totally.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Brie Bella
And it's like, I mean, I have a life coach, and I don't know how you feel about this, but what she's, like, said to me, and I fully believe in is, like, whenever there's that point that I want to introduce someone into Mateo's life, which I only want it to be one man. And I think it'll be years and years and years down the road. But she's like, it's important that you and him and, like, Artem and whoever Arden's with, like, you guys all sit down together and have that date together before bringing him into Mateo's life. Which that's what I would want.
Brittany Cartwright
I agree.
Brie Bella
You know, to have that.
Brittany Cartwright
We actually have it in our paperwork that unless you're in a serious relationship for at least six months, I would prefer, like, a year. Yeah, but at least six months and we talk about it first. Then nobody can be around Cruz.
Brie Bella
Oh, my gosh.
Nikki Bella
Of it.
Brittany Cartwright
For either one of us. Yeah.
Brie Bella
I wish I had that in mind.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah, I had to.
Nikki Bella
It sounds like you needed her lawyer.
Brie Bella
Well, I know, but, I mean, Artem, as we know, isn't being a hoe, so that's a good thing. But still, I wish I had that in there.
Brittany Cartwright
That was actually me, like, going to my lawyer, being like, we need to add this in. We need to add drug testing in. We need to add all these different things in. So I'm protecting my son.
Nikki Bella
Mama bear.
Brittany Cartwright
Oh, yeah, for sure. Mama bear. Big time. I love it.
Nikki Bella
So, wait.
Brie Bella
Oh, God. See this thing with twins? No, no, no. I was just reacting.
Nikki Bella
Oh, okay.
Brittany Cartwright
I love it.
Nikki Bella
Twins. Okay. So we were on the airplane, you know, flying in today.
Brie Bella
Oh, God.
Nikki Bella
And this guy. What did he ask us? Oh, no, he overheard us. They go, can you say yes if you're okay to be in the exit row or something? We're like, yes, same time. And this. The guy turned around. He's like, whoa. That was, like, perfectly, perfectly in sync.
Brie Bella
And what was our next. We go, yeah, we know at the same time. And then we go, oh, my gosh, stop. And then I'm like, I'm not even gonna talk anymore.
Nikki Bella
At 41, I go, how do we still do this twin thing?
Brittany Cartwright
Do you have, like, a psychic connection, like, people talk about?
Brie Bella
Oh, totally.
Brittany Cartwright
Really? That's so cool. For sure.
Nikki Bella
Twins are weird.
Brie Bella
Yeah, we are. We can definitely. We're not weird.
Nikki Bella
Well, you know, our boys are 22 hours apart.
Brittany Cartwright
Wow, that's amazing.
Nikki Bella
We call them our spiritual twins.
Brie Bella
Yes.
Brittany Cartwright
Awesome.
Nikki Bella
I know. It's crazy, I know. But we do this. We have the weirdest twin things all the time.
Brittany Cartwright
Like, do you know when somebody's upset?
Nikki Bella
Oh, yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
Really?
Brie Bella
For sure. And you could totally, like, talk with your eyes. Like, I know when she's in a situation and, like, she's just giving me things, and I'm like, oh, shoot, I need to get her out of this. Or vice versa.
Nikki Bella
Yeah, yeah, we definitely.
Brie Bella
It's weird.
Nikki Bella
It's pretty. It's amazing. And my husband does so well with, like, her being our third wheel.
Brie Bella
I'm sure you're together all the time.
Nikki Bella
Got your third wheel.
Brie Bella
I like you. He's the third one, but he's so. But he's amazing.
Nikki Bella
Like, you marry a twin, you're marrying both.
Brittany Cartwright
Oh, yeah.
Brie Bella
It's a lot. And he made sure I was included yesterday and that, like, I felt special. And. And then Mato's obsessed with him, and he's like. He's right now their T ball coach, and he's just amazing about, like, always being there for him when, like, Artem isn't around. He's been incredible.
Nikki Bella
Like, it's special.
Brittany Cartwright
You guys live close to each other.
Brie Bella
We do, yeah. We used to be neighbors, but someone had to move. Yeah.
Nikki Bella
I needed a bigger yard.
Brie Bella
But, you know, we.
Nikki Bella
We told ourselves growing up, we're like, we're so not gonna be those twins. And we are so those two.
Brie Bella
We're those twins in a cool way.
Nikki Bella
We're not, like, we're not matching.
Brie Bella
Did you guys see that?
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah, we all matched. At your ages still, you know, match.
Brie Bella
Or been in the same kind of men. I would vomit.
Brittany Cartwright
Oh, yeah.
Brie Bella
So you know what I mean? Mean?
Nikki Bella
When that Australia video went viral, I was just going to say that talking the same time as a twin. That cringed me out, that cring.
Brittany Cartwright
What was it? I don't know.
Brie Bella
That it was weird. There was like. Was it a robbery? It was a robbery or fire? I think robbery.
Nikki Bella
No, their mom helped. I think a. A hit and run or a stolen car. They were talking about their mother.
Brie Bella
Daughter left a mom with dementia in the house with, like, 20 cats.
Nikki Bella
No, I think we're.
Brie Bella
No, I swear. That's what I think it is.
Nikki Bella
I. All I think is they were like.
Brie Bella
And they were, like, gnawing on her.
Nikki Bella
I don't know.
Brie Bella
Okay. But so anyways, they're the interviewers, like, interviewing them, and they have to be maybe 50, 60s, like, something there. And they're, like, dressed identical, answering the same time, or when one's talking, then the one comes in the middle of her sentence and finishes it with her.
Nikki Bella
They're in there explaining the situation. But it is a trip. I had to stop watching it because I'm like, I don't know.
Brittany Cartwright
I'm gonna watch it when we get off.
Brie Bella
You have to.
Nikki Bella
You're gonna be, like, blown away.
Brie Bella
I'm like, we are.
Nikki Bella
Before we play a game, I have to ask you, what's your favorite part about doing your podcast? When reality hits, it's kind of like.
Brittany Cartwright
A therapy session at times, and I love that, like, just being able to talk. A lot of the people that come on my podcast are, like, my close friends, you know, in the reality TV world. So it's. It's nice to get other people's, like, perspective and, you know, just talk about different things. And it's always just a lot of fun. Yeah, it is so much fun. And I feel like I get a lot of support from my friends and from, you know, listeners and stuff, and I really, like, appreciate that.
Brie Bella
See, I love that. Yeah. You know, that is the cool thing about podcasting. It's just, like, people want to support each other or be there for each other or relate to someone.
Brittany Cartwright
Exactly.
Brie Bella
Going through something. How can I relate then? How can I get motivated or inspired?
Nikki Bella
How many times have we all sat in a media chair and we get asked a deep question, but they want you to give them one sentence answer.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah. Like, fast.
Brie Bella
Or they only. Yeah. Or they only put in the magazines, like, a sentence of your long answer, and they make you just look.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Nikki Bella
And it's, like, such a beauty that on our podcast that we all can go in detail and actually tell the truth.
Brittany Cartwright
Exactly.
Nikki Bella
People everyone thinks of facts will still.
Brie Bella
Come off as clickbait at times. I mean, I was so brave. I'm like, how is it? Edit that out of us. I am the queen of the headlines.
Nikki Bella
Wow.
Brie Bella
I mean, you understand it, too. It's like, well, I know I put myself.
Nikki Bella
I have a normal relationship in Hollywood, which makes zero headlines.
Brittany Cartwright
You're luckier than you know.
Brie Bella
I tell her that all the time.
Nikki Bella
Being normal, like, in a healthy relationship, meant, like, no one cares.
Brie Bella
I know.
Nikki Bella
Honestly, one thing I love about Traveling is that you get to immerse yourself in a new place or culture.
Brie Bella
Oh, yes. And you want to feel like an insider and less like a tourist, which is why we are so excited. Airbnb just launched experiences in cities all around the world where you can see the city from a new angle, connect with other travelers, and have those true once in a lifetime experiences.
Nikki Bella
That's why we wanted to do something special for people coming to visit Napa and get the authentic winery experience.
Brie Bella
We're officially Airbnb original experience host. We've curated our own original experience at our speakeasy tasting room, Bonita Bonita, only available on Airbnb.
Nikki Bella
So here on the podcast, you always hear us talking about the Bonita Bonita speakeasy tasting room, and you see it on our social medias. So Nikki and I thought it'd be so special to bring that to Airbnb experiences. You can come drink wine with Nikki and I in downtown Napa.
Brie Bella
Oh, that's right. I mean. And as you all know, we are experts of Napa Valley, so we will truly show you the greatest Napa Valley time ever.
Nikki Bella
You know it.
Brie Bella
Come join us.
Nikki Bella
So if you want to feel a little more like a local when you travel, head to Airbnb to book your next experience@airbnb.com experiences. And hey, if you're coming to Napa this year, be sure to come say hi to Nikki and I and book a wine tasting at Bonita Bonita. Nikki, life can get really busy.
Brie Bella
Really busy. I mean, I would say it's been busy for all of us.
Nikki Bella
I know. And sometimes we just need to take a breather, sit down and ask ourselves one very important question.
Brie Bella
What's that? Brie.
Nikki Bella
Have you had your Hershey's?
Brie Bella
I sure have had my Hershey's Brie. And you know what? When you need to brighten up your day or even put a smile on your face, grab the classic creamy texture and pure milk chocolate flavor of Hershey's milk chocolate.
Nikki Bella
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Brie Bella
It sure does. You want to know what one of my favorite moments with Hershey's chocolate is? Teo and I like. I love it. Because you know me, I'm chocolate lover. But now I have a son who's a chocolate lover. So we split bars all the time. It's just such a moment for us, a very happy moment. We look at each Other he always ends up getting chocolate all over his face. But it's just such a sweet moment that I find myself always reaching for a Hershey bar. Always.
Nikki Bella
I mean, we love making s' mores in my family. So every time I bust out a Hershey bar, my kids start screaming with excitement because they know it's about to be s' more time. So for all of you, shop for Hershey's milk chocolate now at a store.
Brie Bella
Near you found wherever candy is sold. I, I like, I don't care. When it's like honest and I'm like, oh, whatever. But when it's not honest and they're just trying to get people to click, that's when it pisses me off. You know what I mean?
Nikki Bella
For sure.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Brie Bella
That's just so frustrating because no one's going to read the article. They're just reading what you're putting out and it bothers me.
Brittany Cartwright
And then people will comment and attack you for just that. And I will respond to a lot of people and be like, go read the article. Like you are listening. You have no context.
Brie Bella
100.
Brittany Cartwright
It's like judging me and you have no idea what you're even talking about.
Brie Bella
Yes.
Brittany Cartwright
Oh my God.
Nikki Bella
I always tell me it's a lot of uneducated people writing comments because I'll go through it and I'm like, oh my God. Gosh.
Brie Bella
Well, I love when I read their bios too.
Brittany Cartwright
That's when it's always like, God first.
Brie Bella
Yes.
Brittany Cartwright
Or positive thinking and different things like that. And I'm our mom of three. I'm like, what is going on here?
Brie Bella
Right, Right.
Brittany Cartwright
So that's all of those things. Except for I've only got one kid and I would never go and comment on somebody's stuff or be a troll ever.
Brie Bella
I couldn't even imagine doing that.
Nikki Bella
I've never ever trolled anyone.
Brittany Cartwright
Me either.
Brie Bella
So this video about Selena Gomez was going viral. It was. Someone made it where all these crazy comments to her, like just really dissing like her looks and all this kind of stuff. Someone took the time they put the comment and then they'd put the profile pic and I can't. I believe it was so many ugly, middle aged, out of shape men.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah. Like we're gross.
Brie Bella
And they were writing the craziest stuff to her. And I'm like, and I love how they. She kept in their ads.
Brittany Cartwright
Yes.
Brie Bella
You know?
Brittany Cartwright
Yes.
Brie Bella
But this like got so, so many views.
Brittany Cartwright
Well, Selena Gomez, I mean, golly, she's got so many followers. So many. I can't even imagine dealing with that.
Brie Bella
Right.
Brittany Cartwright
You know what I mean? Like, good. I guess. But it's just like, I can't imagine. Yeah, a lot comes with it.
Brie Bella
A lot. Yeah.
Nikki Bella
No, thank you.
Brie Bella
I love her so much.
Brittany Cartwright
She's a fan of Vanderpump Rules and.
Brie Bella
Oh, yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
And I don't know if she watches the Valley, but it, like, came out that her and, like, Taylor Swift, when they were, like, they were texting about Vader Pump Rules, we were like, this is so cool.
Brie Bella
Oh, my God.
Nikki Bella
I met you guys had a lot of big time.
Brittany Cartwright
Rihanna talks about the Valley a lot on my carpets and stuff. And I'm like, rihanna.
Brie Bella
I love it.
Brittany Cartwright
She would be my girl. Like, I got to meet her.
Brie Bella
Oh, yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
I would love her so much.
Nikki Bella
I know.
Brie Bella
Have you heard the rumors lately about Selena and Benny? I don't know if it's true or not.
Brittany Cartwright
Oh, wait, I did see something on there. Something about how he was out with her best friend.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
And it was awkward.
Brie Bella
And she unfollowed her.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah. Unfollowed her. And then something about a hotel.
Brie Bella
Yeah. There's what the rumor is, is that he cheated on her with the best friend. Who knows?
Brittany Cartwright
But why would she unfollow her?
Brie Bella
Why would she unfollow? That's why everyone's assuming, you know, like.
Brittany Cartwright
Benny's, like, everybody's boyfriend.
Brie Bella
I know.
Brittany Cartwright
They were so sweet.
Brie Bella
And I don't want to be a part of, like, the clickbait, like, misinformation.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Brie Bella
Everyone. It's all rumor based. I'm hoping it's not, but that would make me. The unfollowing is, like, where you're like, oh, a little suspicious. Yeah.
Nikki Bella
And for someone like her, she knows that it'll give impact.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah. Wow. If I unfollow people even know that, so I'm sure they're gonna know.
Brie Bella
Well, totally. Right. Okay, Brie, you start the game.
Nikki Bella
All right, so we have a game called Cart Right or Cart Wrong.
Brittany Cartwright
All right.
Nikki Bella
Answer each funny scenario with a cart right or a cart wrong.
Brittany Cartwright
I love it.
Nikki Bella
Okay. Putting a store bought cake on a fancy cake stand, then pretending you baked it from scratch.
Brittany Cartwright
Cart wrong. I am such a party planner. I would never do that. Like, I love hosting.
Brie Bella
Me, too.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Nikki Bella
And I'd be, like, embarrassed if someone, like, found out. Yeah. And they knew the whole time I was pretending I baked it.
Brie Bella
But, you know, people do it all the time.
Nikki Bella
Well, I feel like they always have it in TV shows for a reason, because people do it all the time.
Brittany Cartwright
Well, Baking is hard.
Brie Bella
It is so hard.
Brittany Cartwright
It is way harder than, like, cooking a good meal, I think.
Brie Bella
Yes.
Brittany Cartwright
Like, it's different.
Brie Bella
I mean, I have this burn. I have this burn. It's, like, crazy, right? All the oven burns from, like, going, yes, me too. I'm, like, flipping chicken nuggets or, like, the little.
Nikki Bella
Oh, those are air fryer burns.
Brie Bella
No, I don't have the air fryer anymore.
Nikki Bella
Oh, yeah, you got rid of it.
Brie Bella
I got rid of it.
Nikki Bella
Okay. Barring your best friend's outfit without telling her.
Brittany Cartwright
Oh, that's a cart. Wrong.
Brie Bella
Right.
Brittany Cartwright
You have to at least ask. I would let my friends borrow anything. We were always sharing each other's clothes. But wearing it without asking. No.
Nikki Bella
Well. And I feel like I've done that before.
Brie Bella
Oh, no blazer.
Brittany Cartwright
Probably not.
Brie Bella
You too? Oh, no. But you've done that with mine.
Nikki Bella
But I didn't have this blazer, remember? I thought maybe it's Kristen's.
Brittany Cartwright
I used to wear my sister's clothes a lot growing up, and she hated me for it. You're not, like, we would fight so much because I always wanted to wear her clothes. Yeah, but never, like, I would not take something to my friends without them knowing. Knowing. Right. You know?
Brie Bella
No, never.
Brittany Cartwright
A sister's different.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Nikki Bella
I've learned a lot of her heels.
Brie Bella
I'm glad that you finally have admitted that.
Nikki Bella
Posting a group photo on Instagram where only you look amazing.
Brittany Cartwright
Oh, cart wrong.
Nikki Bella
Wrong. Cart wrong. Do you hear that?
Brie Bella
I have never so many. You do that to me.
Nikki Bella
Never.
Brie Bella
All the time.
Brittany Cartwright
You guys are so cute.
Brie Bella
She's crazy. She literally. I'll go, wow.
Nikki Bella
My brother called her out in common comments. He's like, dang, you did never work.
Brie Bella
Pull it up. I would love to see.
Nikki Bella
It was, like, a year ago.
Brittany Cartwright
My friends are really good at putting it in a group chat and be like, does everyone like this photo?
Brie Bella
Yes.
Brittany Cartwright
And then, like, if you're gonna fix yourself a little bit, you're gonna fix your friends too.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
You know what I mean? Like, come on.
Brie Bella
I heard my hairdresser told me there's a woman he knows. But, like, she'll only fix herself and no one else. Yeah. I mean, that's a mess stuff that's not hilarious.
Brittany Cartwright
Especially if you have a lot of followers. Like, you can't just be posting stuff without asking your friends.
Brie Bella
I mean, one of my ex's friends, one of his ex girlfriends had posted a photo of us for. And I was like, oh, gosh. I didn't realize how snatched my waist was. Then I Look closer. And I go, oh, my God, she snatched my waist. She fixed my face. Like, she. I was kind of like, oh, my. I. What do you remember?
Nikki Bella
They're like, damn, I looked so good.
Brie Bella
I mean, that's it. But then it, like, kind of made me feel weird. I was like, so was I not good enough for your profile? Oh, you know what I mean?
Brittany Cartwright
Like, she didn't even ask you. Like, if I know if I was to put something on there, like, one of my friends would be like, maybe, like, fix this a little bit or do this a little bit. Like, who cares?
Brie Bella
No, totally does it. Yeah, right? Honestly.
Nikki Bella
Okay. Planning an extravagant birthday party for your toddler.
Brittany Cartwright
Oh, Cartwright. I do it every single year.
Brie Bella
I love it.
Nikki Bella
What's your, like, big go to's.
Brittany Cartwright
So for, like, his themes.
Nikki Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
So for his first birthday, it was rookie of the year, and it was all like, old school baseball, like, Coca Cola popcorn. I had Mickey Mouse come. I have an amazing party planner that, like, I give her all my ideas, and she just brings it all together. I love party play. Like, that could be. That could be an. I love that. Everybody always tells me I should do that. Second birthday was two infinity and beyond, so it was Toy Story. Third birthday was three wrecks.
Brie Bella
Oh.
Brittany Cartwright
And then he just turned four and it was Reach for the Stars.
Brie Bella
Oh.
Brittany Cartwright
And it was all outer space. And me and him were dressed as astronauts, but he hated his costume. He has autism, so he has some sensory issues, so he hated his costume. So I was stuck wearing a freaking astronaut costume myself all day. I was like, I'm committed. I'm not changing. Like, whatever this.
Nikki Bella
Good mom. Good mom.
Brie Bella
That's really.
Nikki Bella
So our boys are pretty much the same age because our boys will be five in a couple months.
Brittany Cartwright
You know, a lot of people commented that Cruz looked so much like your son.
Brie Bella
Yes.
Brittany Cartwright
Whenever I was like, I was getting so many comments.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
They were like, him and Mateo look so much alike.
Brie Bella
I was looking at him today, and I'm like, oh, my gosh. They do. They look a lot alike. Yeah, I'll show you.
Nikki Bella
Oh, my gosh.
Brittany Cartwright
But people definitely, like, wrote your name under my comment. A couple times, actually.
Brie Bella
We gotta get them together. I bring them out to la. Yes.
Brittany Cartwright
That'll be so fun. You gotta get my number. And if you all come with your kids, like, you'll come to my house because I live far away.
Brie Bella
I love it.
Nikki Bella
Oh, we'd love that. Giving someone your number, then immediately regretting it and ghosting blocking them.
Brittany Cartwright
Oh, gosh. I think I've done that before.
Nikki Bella
I know. I feel like I did that in my 20s a lot.
Brittany Cartwright
It's wrong, but, like, you gotta do it. If somebody starts being weird in a way, you know, it's kind of polite.
Nikki Bella
It's like you made them feel good by the number. And then that's like, okay, I've had.
Brittany Cartwright
Like, a guy asked me for my number, and then, like, a friend who had no interest in whatsoever, like, asked me in front of everybody, too. And I was like, how am I supposed to say no?
Brie Bella
Right?
Brittany Cartwright
And then he just, like, weirdly randomly texts me. And it's like, I don't know. Like, there's so there's some situations like that where it's like, do what you got to do, you know?
Brie Bella
Oh, my gosh.
Nikki Bella
And then do you just, like, ghost them or you just, like, hit block or you just won't respond?
Brittany Cartwright
Sometimes I won't respond, but if somebody was, like, weird, I would block them.
Nikki Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
You know.
Brie Bella
Oh, for sure.
Brittany Cartwright
The person I'm talking about hasn't been, like, too weird yet.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
But if it gets that way, his butt will be blocked.
Nikki Bella
That's for sure.
Brie Bella
I love it.
Nikki Bella
Letting your son only Cheetos for breakfast.
Brittany Cartwright
Cruz is so picky. He would never do that.
Nikki Bella
Yeah, yeah, that's like.
Brie Bella
That's Mateo.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah, he is so picky. He loves breakfast food. Like, breakfast is, like, the easiest meal of the day that I could.
Brie Bella
Oh, really?
Brittany Cartwright
For him? Yeah.
Brie Bella
That's awesome.
Brittany Cartwright
So, yeah, I would not let him have Cheetos. That's.
Brie Bella
No, no.
Brittany Cartwright
Very wrong.
Brie Bella
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Nikki Bella
Pretending you're busy. Just enjoy a night alone in sweatpants Cartwright.
Brittany Cartwright
I've done that so many times.
Brie Bella
So many times.
Brittany Cartwright
Oh, I don't have a sitter for the kids tonight. It's like, I really didn't even ask.
Nikki Bella
Yes. You and I both are guilty of it now.
Brie Bella
We're so guilty of it.
Brittany Cartwright
I am a lot more of a homebody than people think I am. Like, people are like, she's always out. She's not. I'm like, everybody posts on social media when they're doing something totally. You know what I mean? Like, I'm home 24 7.
Brie Bella
Yes.
Brittany Cartwright
And it's like, people don't think that.
Brie Bella
I guess. Especially when you're like. It's. People will be like, you're such an alcoholic. And I'm like, no, I literally am out. So I'm dressed cute, Gonna take a photo and have a glass of wine in my hand.
Brittany Cartwright
Exactly.
Brie Bella
Majority of the time, I'm not even doing this.
Brittany Cartwright
I hate talking about that, but that's something I've had to deal with. People thought that I was, like, out partying all the time, and I'm like, okay, I'm a mother 24 7. Whenever I go out, I like tequila shots. That's, like, pretty much the only thing I could drink.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
So, yeah, I definitely like my. My shots. But then, like, people were really, like, coming at me, and I was like, this is crazy.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
Like, I'm home 24 7. I'm allowed to still go have fun sometimes.
Brie Bella
The mom's shaming. So, so bad on social, and I'm.
Nikki Bella
Always like, I posted six days ago. I'm like, would you think I was doing them six days?
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah, exactly.
Nikki Bella
Like, wearing no makeup.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Nikki Bella
In mom mode. I know.
Brittany Cartwright
Well, even, like, yesterday. I know this is a little off topic, but it was weird. Like, I posted for Mother's Day, me and Cruz, and, like, a lot of flashback videos, like, the day he was born and different stuff like that. And I had a couple comments where people were being like, no, Jacks. Oh, something else must be stirring. I'm like, we're literally going through a very public divorce. Pictures of him on Mother's Day.
Brie Bella
Yes.
Brittany Cartwright
You know, just, you know that comments.
Brie Bella
Like that, you know, I haven't. I wanted. I was gonna post something today when we were on the plane, and Then I was like, oh, maybe I'll wait later. But, like, it's because, like, having the first Mother's Day single, I was just like, what's gonna come from this? Like, but that's sad.
Brittany Cartwright
How did you feel? I know that. Like, I just want to ask you so many questions because you've gone through something so public, just like me.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
How did you feel like your first Mother's Day single?
Brie Bella
I. You know, it's crazy. I don't know if it's because I'm super strong. Like, there's definitely moments, like, in the morning, like, you're like, oh, like, you know, I gotta go make my own coffee. Yeah, coffee better, whatever. But overall, and I guess because I'm so close with Breeze family, like, I felt really good. But you definitely have those moments. Because the one thing that I will say and, like, you'll understand this more so than any anyone else is you. You wish that the father of your son, like, that works out because, like, you love your child so much that you just want to be with who they also love so much, which is their dad.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Brie Bella
So you can't help but, like, I'll find myself, like, kind of romanticized, but just being more like, wow, that's just sad that that won't ever be like that again, you know, because you know how much your child would love that. Exactly. And we want to give our child everything. So that's when it hurts for me, or when I'll get sad, or if Mateo and I are ever somewhere where it's like we're by herself or even, like, you know, something yesterday, that special in the morning by ourselves. I'm like. Those are times where I'm like, get bummed out.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Brie Bella
And wish it was different. And it's like, so. Yeah, it's hard.
Brittany Cartwright
I think that that's why you're so lucky you have your sister and her family. And I'm so lucky that I had my friends and their kids yesterday, you know, because it made it feel really special.
Brie Bella
Yeah. Well, and probably Lala. Right? You guys are so close and I could understand she on show.
Brittany Cartwright
She.
Brie Bella
She makes appearances. Right.
Brittany Cartwright
So they're like friends of. I guess you would call them. Yeah. They're not like full cast members, but they. They're my real friends in real life, so it makes sense that they're on the show.
Brie Bella
Totally.
Brittany Cartwright
Me and Lala, our kids go to the same school together.
Brie Bella
Oh, nice. See, that's so cool.
Brittany Cartwright
They're all three in the same class.
Brie Bella
That's awesome.
Nikki Bella
I'M definitely gonna be binging.
Brie Bella
No, me too. I'm gonna be.
Brittany Cartwright
Well, listen, don't judge me for season one because I was gonna tell you really fast. I had like a liposuction done under mine, under my chin, and they thought I would be healed. Well, they like. Oh, sorry. They like hit a nerve so, like, I couldn't even like, move my bottom lip. So I have like so many episodes where I was having to like, hold my finger.
Brie Bella
No.
Brittany Cartwright
On my bottom lip so that my bottom lip would move and my face was like, stuck.
Brie Bella
Was that so scary?
Brittany Cartwright
It was awful. And I will regret it forever that I did it. Like, it's fine now.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
But I wish I would have done it like two or three months before. Like three weeks before. You know what I mean?
Brie Bella
Totally.
Nikki Bella
Which, by the way, you didn't need it.
Brie Bella
But you didn't need it.
Brittany Cartwright
But it just makes me, makes me feel embarrassed whenever I watch it back and I see my mouth is like frowning like, you know, I'm like, oh my gosh, why did I do that? Yeah, it's just one of those confidence things for me that, like, I've always been so worried about that.
Brie Bella
Yeah. You know, I get it.
Nikki Bella
But it's crazy what TV will make us do.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Brie Bella
I mean, and it was just a.
Brittany Cartwright
Quick on the whim decision. Like I was there getting a little Botox and I was like, what can you do for my chin?
Brie Bella
Oh, no.
Brittany Cartwright
And it just kind of happened and I was like, wish I would have waited. But still, now that you know that story, you're gonna laugh when you say, yeah, now I'm. I was wearing like a head wrap on the first episode.
Nikki Bella
No way. But you know, the great thing about reality television is the producers probably loved that. They probably were like, oh, like this is reality goals.
Brittany Cartwright
Yes. It's just funny watching yourself back and you're like, oh, man, that's gonna live forever.
Brie Bella
I have a lot of those moments. You definitely have a lot of those.
Nikki Bella
Moments when I was shit faced.
Brie Bella
Right.
Nikki Bella
But you know, I always was like, I'd watch it back and I was just shake my head and I'm like, you know what? It's me.
Brie Bella
Oh, well. Yeah.
Nikki Bella
And if you don't want to be.
Brie Bella
Friends with me, life is perfect.
Nikki Bella
That helps me out.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah. Like, name one person that's going to be perfect 247 with cameras around them. Like, people need to just give a little bit of grace here and there.
Brie Bella
You know, for sure we, we put it out there. You all are really living it.
Nikki Bella
Yeah.
Brie Bella
You know, one.
Nikki Bella
Do you guys see any of the edits before it airs?
Brittany Cartwright
So this season, which I can say this because Andy talked about that we had to. Andy Cohen.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
That we had to film our reunion already. So there's only four episodes out so far, but we had to film our reunion early because Kristen and Nia are both getting ready to have babies. So Kristen. I think Nia's due June 10th, and Kristen's due June 17th.
Nikki Bella
Wow.
Brittany Cartwright
So they're gonna be, like, a week apart.
Nikki Bella
That's really cute.
Brittany Cartwright
So this is the first. First season I've ever done with reality TV where we had to watch all 15 episodes.
Brie Bella
Wow.
Brittany Cartwright
Before the reunion. So normally, Vanderpump Rules Days, Valley Days, whatever. We don't get the episode till the night before.
Nikki Bella
Oh.
Brittany Cartwright
Because they don't want us to share it. They don't. You know, they don't want it to get out or anything like that. So we would have no clue what we were gonna look like, how it's gonna be edited, anything until the night before. So this has been a little weird because we've already done the after show. We've already done the reunion, but we still have, like, weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks left.
Brie Bella
Because we're like, yeah, okay, that's. I thought I saw something about the reunion spirit, and that's why I was getting confused, because I'm like. I thought they just came out on.
Brittany Cartwright
Air, so we, you know, technically, like, we filmed over the summer, so it already all happened anyway, so it doesn't really matter, I guess. Do the reunion. I did hear, like, a couple people talking about it, and they made a good point. They were like, this will be the first reunion, really, for Bravo where the cast doesn't have, like, the interactions from the crowd to change their opinions, because a lot of times, like, the crowd will turn against you. You could be their favorite one day and then their least favorite the next day. And people get in the comments and read about it, and then they want to, like, cater to that.
Brie Bella
Yes.
Brittany Cartwright
Those comments. Because they want them to look better.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
So we didn't have that this year, so it's going to be a lot more, like, honest, kind of.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Nikki Bella
You know, I actually preferred that.
Brie Bella
Yeah, I prefer that.
Nikki Bella
I'm totally excited.
Brie Bella
I know. I'm excited.
Brittany Cartwright
It was a rough day. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I bet for you it was. Yeah.
Brie Bella
Oh.
Brittany Cartwright
But I'm proud of myself.
Brie Bella
Good. Look, I got chills.
Nikki Bella
All right, Brittany, this has been such a treat having you. I feel like we can all like, hang out for hours.
Brittany Cartwright
I know. I loved you guys.
Nikki Bella
Yes.
Brie Bella
Well, we have to come now on your show.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Brie Bella
On your podcast.
Brittany Cartwright
Please. I was love that we would love it too. Yes.
Nikki Bella
And we're open books. We'll talk about anything.
Brittany Cartwright
Yes. I got so many questions already. Oh, this is happening. This is happening.
Brie Bella
I love it.
Nikki Bella
Before we let you go, we always end our episodes with little inspiration, affirmation. Is there a quote or a motto you live by?
Brittany Cartwright
I just always like to. To say to people, like, if you're going through a hard time, because I'm definitely going through hard times right now. Just try to focus on the positives in your life. Try to focus on the blessings that you have. And it's really hard to do that sometimes. But that's the best way for me personally to, like, get out of that negative mind space. Focus on my beautiful son, focus on my beautiful. My dogs or, you know, just whatever. I have my beautiful family, my health. Like, try to, like, really focus on the good things that you have instead of, like, dwell in that dark place.
Brie Bella
Yes.
Brittany Cartwright
And just always be positive and don't be an Internet troll.
Brie Bella
Yeah, yeah. Seriously. Well, I feel like anyone who's on Bravo has to really deal with it. Like, they. They get it bad.
Brittany Cartwright
We do. And, you know, we have amazing, amazing, amazing fans that show up for every.
Brie Bella
You guys have the most die hard.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah. And 100 way more people are supportive and kind than there are mean. The mean. The mean comments just are, like, louder sometimes in a weird way, but triggers. Yeah. But I have a lot more positive support. Like, I'm so grateful for the fans. And the Bravo world is different than other reality TV worlds, I guess, because, like, we have stuff like Bravo conversations.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
Where we meet, like 120 other reality stars.
Brie Bella
Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
That are all going through the same thing. So it's kind of like a cool little family in a weird way.
Brie Bella
You know, I noticed that when I was on the Traders, like, all the Bravo people.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah. You know, they already all knew each other.
Brie Bella
Yeah. Like, we're hanging out and how they would talk and chat. And I think that's, you know, also, like, where Gabby Chrishell and I got so close because we weren't in the Bravo fam.
Brittany Cartwright
Chris Shell's a friend of mine.
Brie Bella
Oh, she is. I love.
Brittany Cartwright
She's from Kentucky, just like me.
Nikki Bella
Oh, yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
Yeah.
Brie Bella
Isn't she the sweetest?
Brittany Cartwright
She's amazing. She uses my hairsty. Alice Bradley. So, like. Yeah, yeah. But I've. I met her at the Kentucky Derby a long time. Ago. We both were like hosted with the same group. It was whenever she was still married to. Is it Josh Hartley?
Brie Bella
Yeah, his last name is Hartley. Yeah.
Brittany Cartwright
So she was still married to him then. And she like came to sir a couple times and you know, so I've known her for a while. She's very nice.
Brie Bella
Yeah, she's so sweet. Oh, I love that. But you know, Brie and I used to always say we, we wish we were part of the Bravo family. Like and we loved being a part.
Brittany Cartwright
Of the don't say that too loud because they're gonna come at you with us reality show.
Brie Bella
Seriously. But yeah, it's when I look at BravoCon and how all the fans are and the watch what happens live show like you just see and now doing different of the competition reality shows, I'm just like, wow, Bravo's where it's at.
Brittany Cartwright
It is. Yeah. We have a lot of support and it's just like a little family. I love it.
Nikki Bella
While your family grew with Nikki.
Brie Bella
Yes. And everyone please make sure to watch The Valley Season 2 Tuesday nights on Bravo and streaming on Peacock the next day. And also make sure to catch new episodes of Britney's POD when reality hits on Friday.
Brittany Cartwright
Thank you.
Brie Bella
Brittany, thank you so much for stopping by.
Brittany Cartwright
You guys are so cute. I loved it.
Brie Bella
Oh my God. Thank you.
Brittany Cartwright
Thank you.
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Podcast Summary: The Nikki & Brie Show – "Reality Hits Different with Brittany Cartwright"
Introduction In the episode titled "Reality Hits Different with Brittany Cartwright," released on May 26, 2025, hosts Nikki and Brie Garcia delve deep into the intricate world of reality television alongside their special guest, Brittany Cartwright. Brittany, known for her appearances on "Vanderpump Rules" and "The Valley" Season 2, shares her personal journey navigating the tumultuous waters of reality TV amidst significant life changes.
Guest Introduction: Brittany Cartwright The episode kicks off with Nikki and Brie warmly welcoming Brittany Cartwright to the show. Brittany expresses her excitement about joining the hosts, highlighting her longstanding connections with the Vanderpump crew. She shares, “[00:03:22] Brie Bella: It’s so fun because it’s Brie and I. I mean, I’ve known the Vanderpump crew, like, I’ve known all of you for so long.”
Life After Filming "The Valley" Season 2 Brittany opens up about her recent experiences post-filming, describing Season 2 of "The Valley" as her most challenging yet. She states, “[06:00] Brittany Cartwright: This has definitely been the hardest I’ve been on eight seasons of reality TV.” The conversation delves into the difficulties of maintaining personal relationships under the public eye, especially during her separation from her husband, Jax.
Navigating Separation and Public Scrutiny Brittany discusses the strain her separation has placed on her life, particularly as it unfolds on camera. “[07:06] Nikki Bella: Obviously, I 100% agree with you. I feel like some of us are put on earth to be the ones, the poster children, to show, like, real relationships, why we're reality stars.” She emphasizes the importance of transparency, saying, “[06:20] Brittany Cartwright: So it was like just one episode this whole season. You see, like, the downfall, how bad it's been, what we all went through.”
Co-Parenting Amidst Divorce The conversation shifts to Brittany’s ongoing divorce and the complexities of co-parenting. “[11:09] Brie Bella: And how’s co-parenting going? Oh, oh really? I mean it’s a struggle.” Brittany elaborates on the challenges, especially with her son Cruz being a central figure, and the emotional toll it takes. She highlights the difficulties of interacting with ex-partners and the impact of public personas on personal relationships.
Personal Life and Dating Post-Divorce Brittany shares her cautious approach to dating following her divorce, expressing reluctance to remarry. “[17:13] Brittany Cartwright: I don’t know if I would legally sign papers again.” She discusses her desire for meaningful relationships and the importance of introducing new partners thoughtfully into her son’s life, reflecting on advice from her life coach.
Comparing Reality Shows: "Vanderpump Rules" vs. "The Valley" A significant portion of the discussion revolves around Brittany’s experiences on different reality shows. “[20:40] Brittany Cartwright: Oh, my gosh, they look a lot alike.” She contrasts her time on "Vanderpump Rules," which she found more manageable without the added responsibilities of motherhood, to "The Valley," where the stakes felt higher due to personal life intertwining with on-screen drama.
Behind the Scenes of Reality TV Brittany provides an insider’s perspective on the production aspects of reality TV, such as the early filming of reunions due to cast members’ impending pregnancies. “[50:00] Brittany Cartwright: So this season, which I can say this because Andy talked about that we had to. Andy Cohen.” She explains how this unique production schedule has affected the viewing experience and the authenticity of the show’s conclusions.
Interactive Segment: "Cart Right or Cart Wrong" The trio engages in a playful game called "Cart Right or Cart Wrong," where they humorously assess various scenarios. For instance, when Nikki poses, “Putting a store-bought cake on a fancy cake stand, then pretending you baked it from scratch,” Brittany confidently responds, “[35:35] Brittany Cartwright: Cart wrong. I am such a party planner,” illustrating her commitment to authenticity in her social endeavors.
Reflecting on Public Image and Self-Acceptance Brittany candidly discusses the pressures of maintaining a public image and the personal regrets she has from her time on reality TV. “[47:11] Brittany Cartwright: But it's just one of those confidence things for me that, like, I've always been so worried about that.” She shares her experience with liposuction gone wrong, highlighting the vulnerability that comes with reality television exposure.
Conclusion and Inspirational Message As the episode wraps up, Brittany offers an empowering message to listeners facing their own struggles. “[51:51] Brittany Cartwright: If you’re going through a hard time, just try to focus on the positives in your life.” She emphasizes the importance of gratitude and positivity, especially when dealing with public scrutiny and personal challenges.
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Final Thoughts This episode of The Nikki & Brie Show offers an unfiltered look into Brittany Cartwright’s life, showcasing the realities of balancing personal turmoil with the demands of reality television. Through candid conversations and shared experiences, listeners gain valuable insights into resilience, authenticity, and the power of focusing on the positive amidst life's challenges.