Americans Give Trump Low Marks On The Economy In New Poll

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: The NPR Politics Podcast
Episode: Americans Give Trump Low Marks On The Economy In New Poll
Air Date: December 17, 2025
Host(s): Tamara Keith, Danielle Kurtzleben, Domenico Montanaro

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the findings of a new NPR/PBS News/Marist poll revealing that a growing majority of Americans disapprove of President Trump’s handling of the economy, with affordability and the impact of tariffs emerging as major concerns among voters. The hosts discuss perceptions versus reality on key economic indicators, shifts in party trust, and the potential political consequences for Republicans heading into the 2026 midterms.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Public Perception: Cost of Living Crisis

• Polling Surge in Concerns:

  • 70% of Americans say their area is “no longer affordable” for average families, a sharp rise from 45% in the summer. (02:04)
  • 61% report the economy is "not working for them" personally.
  • A majority believe the U.S. is in a recession — despite contrary economic data.

  “70% of people say that their area is no longer affordable for average families. That’s up from 45% over the summer, which is a huge jump.”
  — Domenico Montanaro (02:12)

2. Tariffs and Their Costs: Economic & Political Impact

• Tariffs as Top Concern:

  • Two-thirds of adults are very or somewhat concerned about how tariffs are affecting their personal finances. (03:20)
  • Even among Republicans, over a third express concern about tariffs, despite party loyalty.

  “Tariffs are driving prices upward… this poll shows that Americans are worried about that.”
  — Danielle Kurtzleben (03:20)

• Tariffs Overtake Traditional Issues:

  • When asked about top economic worries:
    • Prices led with 45%,
    • Housing at 18%,
    • Tariffs at 15%.
  • Tariffs and price increases are viewed as "somewhat interchangeable" by many.

3. Trump’s Traditional Economic Strength Slipping

• Dramatic Decline in Approval:

  • Only 36% approve of Trump’s handling of the economy; a historic low equaled only by President Biden at the height of the 2022 inflation spike. (05:45, 06:03)
  • Notably low approval among Latino voters (just 30%).

  “That shine has clearly worn off. Thirty-six percent of people approve of the job that he's doing on handling the economy. It's his worst mark… in the last six years.”
  — Domenico Montanaro (05:45)

• Direct Economic Blame:

  • Unlike most presidents, Trump is uniquely vulnerable because he touts his tariff policy as a major achievement, making price increases directly associated with his decisions.

  “With Trump, he has unilaterally pushed a lever that makes prices go up… This creates a huge liability when you have two thirds of people being worried about tariffs…”
  — Danielle Kurtzleben (07:00, summarized)

4. Republican vs. Democrat Economic Trust Flips

• For the first time in years, Democrats have a (modest) advantage on which party voters trust to handle the economy (37% Dems vs. 33% GOP), marking a massive swing from Republicans’ 16-point lead in 2022. (08:45)

  “Democrats now have the advantage on who you trust more… This is significant because it’s a 20-point turnaround from 2022…”
  — Domenico Montanaro (08:45)

• Political Implications:

  • Independents have particularly shifted away from Republicans.
  • The cause: Trump’s active measures, namely tariffs, are seen as worsening, not improving, affordability.

5. Trump’s Messaging Disconnect

• President vs. Administration:

  • The White House blames lasting effects of Biden-era inflation, framing current problems as a lingering “hangover.”
  • Trump personally continues to promote tariffs and manufacturing, but poll data and employment numbers do not support the benefits he claims.

  “This is all still Biden’s fault… Rome wasn’t built in a day… It’s going to take us a while to slow that all down.”
  — Danielle Kurtzleben, paraphrasing VP J.D. Vance (13:15)

• Unconventional Consumer Messaging:

  • Trump’s suggestion that “maybe you don’t need 37 pencils or 37 dolls” is highlighted as a strikingly unusual message for an American president, essentially telling voters to cut back on personal consumption. (08:08)

  “By the way, telling people to pull back on their consumption, that is a remarkable economic message for a president to have.”
  — Danielle Kurtzleben (08:28)

6. Political Consequences & the 2026 Midterms

• Low Approval Ratings and Electoral Danger:

  • Trump’s overall job approval stands at 38% — the lowest of his second term, akin to his 2018 numbers when Republicans lost 40 House seats.
  • 50% of registered voters strongly disapprove; only 30% of independents approve.
  • “Wave election” potential if conditions persist. (17:26, 17:35)

  “I mean, if the election were next week, I’d say that this could be a major wave election. It’s not. … But the intensity of disapproval is very high.”
  — Domenico Montanaro (17:35)

• GOP Base Stability, with Smidges of Slippage:

  • Republican approval for Trump dropped from 89% last month to 84% now — a statistically slight shift, but notable.

  “It’s down five points. It’s within the margin of error. It’s a slight movement downward, but it’s still 84%. It’s still pretty robust.”
  — Domenico Montanaro (20:07)

7. Underlying Themes: Culture vs. Economic Anxiety

• The hosts contend that culture war issues, not economic anxiety, appear to be Trump’s base’s primary motivator — support persists even as economic pain grows, partly because of perceived existential political stakes.

  “It was never the economy, economic anxiety. It’s really about culture and culture war stuff.”
  — Domenico Montanaro (09:39)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Danielle Kurtzleben on Tariffs:

  “Tariffs are driving prices upward… Americans are worried about that.” (03:20)

• Domenico Montanaro on Approval Falls:

  “That shine has clearly worn off. Thirty-six percent of people approve of the job that he's doing on handling the economy.” (05:45)

• Tamara Keith on Trump’s Economic Narrative:

  “He started talking about like, you know, and maybe you don’t need 37 pencils or 37 dolls.” (08:08)

• Domenico Montanaro on GOP Perception:

  “Now clearly independents have slid away very heavily from the Republican party… A big piece of that is because of what Danielle is saying, that Trump took active measures to actually make prices worse when it comes to tariffs.” (09:16)

• Trump (quoted by hosts) on Economy and Legacy:

  “I’ve created the greatest economy in history, but it may take people a while to figure these things out. I cannot tell you how that’s going to equate to the voter. All I can do is do my job.” (20:44)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Poll Results & Topline Concerns — 02:00–03:20
• Tariff Discussion — 03:20–05:03
• Trump’s Economic Image Erodes — 05:31–07:00
• Democrats Overtake Republicans on Economy Trust — 08:45–09:54
• Administration vs. Trump Messaging — 12:29–14:33
• Economic Anxiety vs. Culture — 09:39
• Midterm Implications & GOP Base — 16:32–20:07
• Trump’s Legacy, Distancing from Midterms — 20:44–21:34

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Summary Takeaways

• Affordability and tariffs are top economic concerns; perception of crisis is widespread, crossing some party lines.
• Trump’s historic strength on the economy is eroding, with specific blame assigned due to his own policies (e.g., tariffs).
• Democrats now edge out Republicans on economic trust, a major shift since 2022.
• Low overall and economic-specific approval numbers for Trump could spell trouble for the GOP in 2026, especially if economic trends and voter anger persist.
• Underlying support for Trump among Republicans slips only slightly, indicating cultural and ‘existential’ motivations may outweigh economic pain—though warning signs are flashing bright red across the board.

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Transcript

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[Danielle Kurtzleben]

I'm Danielle Kurtzleben. I also cover the White House.

[Domenico Montanaro]

And I'm Domenico Montanaro, senior political editor and correspondent.

[Tamara Keith]

And we are recording this at 12:25pm on Wednesday, December 17, 2025. Today on the show, a new NPR PBS News Marist poll finds that Americans give President Trump low marks on his handling of the economy. So, Domenico, what are some of your big takeaways from this poll?

[Domenico Montanaro]

Well, I mean, we've been hearing all year about how affordability is the big issue. So we dove in on just how much it's affecting people and what the cost of living means. And a few things really jump out here. 70% of people say that their area is no longer affordable for average families. That's up from 45% over the summer, which is a huge jump. 61% of people say that the economy is simply not working for them personally. And a majority of people actually say that we are in a recession currently, even though technically we're not in one. But clearly it's a thermometer of how people are really feeling about whether or not they can afford things.

[Tamara Keith]

Danielle, I'm Just curious, how does that match up with the economic data?

[Danielle Kurtzleben]

I mean, it matches up relatively well in the sense that recently we have gotten some increasing flashing yellow to red lights on the economy. The latest jobs report that just came out showed that unemployment ticked up. It's at a four year high. We have elevated inflation and as Jerome Powell told us last week, that inflation is in the area of goods as opposed to services.

[Tamara Keith]

Jerome Powell being the Fed chair who President Trump doesn't like, but he is the chairman of the Federal Reserve.

[Danielle Kurtzleben]

Yes, thank you very much. Yeah. And he said that goods inflation is entirely in sectors where there are tariffs. So yes, tariffs are driving prices upward. And this poll shows that Americans are worried about that. That we asked a question, how concern, concerned are you about the impact of tariffs on your personal finances? And 2/3 of adults said very or somewhat concerned. One third said not very. The footnote here is that this being America 2025, of course, that is colored by party. Democrats and independents were much more likely than Republicans to say they were concerned about tariffs. But still, Republicans tend to be overwhelmingly in the tank for Trump. But here you still had more than a third of Republicans saying they're concerned about tariffs. Trump's central economic policy hurting their personal finances. That is really significant, I think.

[Domenico Montanaro]

Well before Trump really started talking about how it's Democrats fault that prices are so high, while he was being pushed back on over the summer, Republicans had said, a majority of them had said that they felt that tariffs were a big problem and that they were concerned about them impacting their bottom line. And now that's changed. So clearly they've bought into some of that messaging from Trump. And notably here when we talk about tariffs, in addition to 2/3 people being concerned about them potentially impacting their budgets, 45% of people said that prices were their top economic concern. Nothing else came close. Second was housing at 18% and tariffs were third at 15%. So and tariffs and prices, of course, somewhat interchangeable. And that's a thing that Trump did that he is getting more blame for than, you know, any other president would because they didn't really bother with that.

[Tamara Keith]

Domenico, for as long as President Trump has been on the political scene, he has had the economy as one of his strengths. You know, he was the billionaire developer, he was the, the person whose legend was built on the Apprentice and the Celebrity Apprentice. And you talk to voters and they would say, yeah, you know, I don't like the way he tweets or I don't like everything he says, or he might be a Little coarse, but this man understands the economy.

[Domenico Montanaro]

And.

[Tamara Keith]

And in 2024, he ran on fixing the economy on a golden age for America. So is the economy no longer a strength for the President?

[Domenico Montanaro]

That shine has clearly worn off. 36% of people approve of the job that he's doing on handling the economy. It's his worst mark that he's ever gotten on this score. It's only tied in the last six years with Joe Biden from 2022, when inflation was going through the roof and was a huge concern. He was at 36% as well back then.

[Tamara Keith]

And that was when inflation peaked at around 9%, which was high.

[Domenico Montanaro]

Yeah. And, you know, it was in a midterm year. Democrats wound up losing some seats in the House even though they did better than people thought that they would. And it's not, though, because the economy was a positive thing for Democrats. Trump is somebody who ran on being able to lower prices. It's a big reason why he was able to win in 2024. It's a big reason why Latinos, for example, crossed over to vote for him. And this time now, we're starting to see all through this year that Latinos have really slid away from Trump. They're only at a 30% approval rating when it comes to the economy and his handling of it. And it's just another data point of Latinos and some of these crossover voters really sliding away from Trump altogether.

[Danielle Kurtzleben]

I think what Domenico is saying there is also getting at something that's really unique and that we really need to point out about Trump's marks on the economy here, because regular listeners will know we have said this many times on this podcast. The President in general is not directly to blame, nor can directly take credit for how the economy is doing. You have different business cycles, you have people's different supply and demand that can drive prices up or down. You have, you know, different shocks around the world. You have Russia invading Ukraine driving oil prices up, all that kind of stuff. But with Trump, he has unilaterally pushed a lever that makes prices go up in imposing all of these tariffs on all of these goods and goods from all of these countries. And not only that, but he talks so much about it as being a super great policy. This creates a huge liability when you have two thirds of people being worried about tariffs directly impacting their bank account. This means that come next year around the midterms, you can imagine Republicans potentially running away from tariffs, Democrats really hammering on tariffs as they hammer the affordability and cost of living issue.

[Tamara Keith]

Well, and there was a remarkable thing that happened in President Trump's rally last week where he was talking about how great tariffs are and wanting to bring manufacturing back to America and how it's such a great policy. And then he started talking about like, you know, and maybe you don't need 37 pencils or 37 dolls.

[Danielle Kurtzleben]

The doll line. Yeah. And so it really putting the onus on you as a consumer, like maybe maybe pull back on your consumption. And by the way, telling people to pull back on their consumption, that is a remarkable economic message for a president to have.

[Domenico Montanaro]

Well, it's clearly not working as far as convincing most people because in this, in this survey, not only is Trump at for his handling, but Democrats now have the advantage on who you trust more, which party you trust more in handling the economy. It's not a big advantage. It's 4 points 37 to 33. But this is significant because it's a 20 point turnaround from 2022 when Republicans had a 16 point advantage 39 to 23 back then. So this is a category that often Republicans do better on. But now clearly independents have slid away very heavily from the Republican Party and believing that they're going to do a good job on and a big piece of that is because of what Danielle is saying, that Trump took active measures to actually make prices worse when it comes to tariffs. I also think that it's necessary and important to note that the strong Republican support that Trump continues to get and the fact that they seem to be buying into the tariff messaging also exposes what the true thing is that they're most attracted to Trump by. It was never the economy, economic anxiety. It's really about culture and culture war stuff. And that's why Trump and people in his cabinet continue to come back to things like immigration, even at times and events when they're supposed to be talking about the economy.

[Tamara Keith]

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And we're back. And we've been talking about the results of a new NPR PBS News Marist poll that's out today. And the numbers are something of a flashing red light for the president and his party. Tonight, President Trump will deliver a primetime address to the Danielle, what do you know about what he's going to talk about?

[Danielle Kurtzleben]

We don't really know a lot. We do know that Caroline Levitt, the White House press secretary, told Fox News yesterday that Trump is going to be talking about, as she put it, his historic accomplishments over the last year and maybe teasing some policy that's going to be coming in 2026. She did talk about a couple of issues like lower gas prices, something the White House has really been hitting on a lot of border security, of course, something they love talking about. So I would bet we'll hear about those. I would bet we'll hear quite a bit more about the economy because that's what they're trying to focus on right now. But again, Trump is unpredictable. We don't know exactly what we're going to get.

[Tamara Keith]

Yeah. And this is something of a reset moment or a, or an effort to refocus the nation's attention on the message that the White House wants to get out. These are prepared remarks delivered straight to a camera without a bunch of reporters there to ask questions or get the president off topic without a crowd that sometimes gets him to juiced and wanting to, like, entertain people. But I have been fascinated by something of a disconnect between the way the president has talked about the economy and the way his administration has talked about the economy. So we've talked a bit about how he's talked about it. Danielle, what is the message that, you know, the more carefully controlled message coming from the Trump administration about the economy and what to expect the first one.

[Danielle Kurtzleben]

Is this is all still Biden's fault that Biden was such a poor steward of the economy and inflation was so high under Joe Biden that there's still a hangover. And J.D. vance, Vice President, did a speech in Pennsylvania yesterday where he stuck to this message much better than Trump has managed to. I believe one quote he said was, rome wasn't built in a day. The idea being that, look, prices rose quite a bit under Biden. It's going to take us a while to slow that all down again. Well, it has been 11 months of the Trump administration, so you have to wonder how long voters will be willing to settle for a scapegoat as opposed to a solution. But that is one message. Another is things are going to get better next year. Especially they talk about this with regards to the one big beautiful bill and the tax provisions in it that will lower taxes for some people. For example, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, Social Security. The White House loves to talk about that as well. So when you do your taxes next year, the White House is saying maybe you'll get some more money back. That may be true and they're hoping that that will juice the economy. But I would add there has been analysis from the Yale Budget Lab showing that that big beautiful bill will likely benefit higher earners far more than benefiting lower earners.

[Tamara Keith]

And higher earners are not the problem that the economy has right now. The stock market is doing quite well for higher renters.

[Domenico Montanaro]

And people in our survey, by the way, said that stock market volatility was last on their list as far as their top economic concern. And yet it seems to be something that Trump is hyper focused on. If the stock market vacillates or goes up or down one way or the other, he seems to change his policy direction. And you know, from a left wing populist point of view, you could look at him as a billionaire and say, well, that is what the wealthier people are concerned about. Cuz that's where most of their money is. And there's a disconnect between his economic policies and what most people are feeling. And clearly we've seen now in polling, polling that people feel like this is his economy, this is Trump's economy. And they don't think that he's necessarily taken steps to bring prices down. They say that his policies have made things worse. So it's different than being able to say, well, you know, most presidents get more blame or credit than they deserve. When he's taken the actions he has on tariffs. Right.

[Danielle Kurtzleben]

When he talks about tariffs specifically, the message they have been putting forward on tariffs is that it's going to help manufacturing. That by disincentivizing all of us consumers from buying, say, steel and aluminum or whatever else from overseas.

[Tamara Keith]

Dolls.

[Danielle Kurtzleben]

Yes, dolls from overseas. T shirts, whatever. Then you're going to help American factories that make dolls and T shirts and so on. Thus far, we have not seen that. We've seen manufacturing employment going down this year. The White House, of course, would say this is a long, long term project. It's just gonna take a while to build all those factories. So the big question is how long are the American people willing to wait? And also, is that really gonna work?

[Tamara Keith]

All right, Domenico. So they're saying, be patient. I want to talk more broadly about this poll and what we learned about how the American people are feeling about the job the President is doing and sort of what the political implications are for that.

[Domenico Montanaro]

Yeah, it's tough to say be patient when your political standing is as bad as Trump's is. 38% overall say that they approve of the job that Trump is doing. That's the lowest of this second term and the lowest number he's seen in Marist surveys since April of 2018. And in 2018, his number didn't go much higher than that. It sat at 41% in the last Marist poll before the 2018 midterm elections. And Republicans lost 40 seats in the House that year. And I think this is gonna be a big consideration. You mentioned a flashing red light. How many lights do you have to see before it becomes something that, you know, kind of engulfs everything that you're seeing at all? I mean, I don't see how Republicans see much silver lining anywhere. Everything seems to be a red light because this is what people's top concern are. They're placing it on Trump. Special elections, the elections this year, they've all pointed in the same direction. People saying the economy is their big concern and they're voting for Democrats.

[Tamara Keith]

So there's a midterm coming next November. Are Republicans in trouble based on what you see in this poll, big time right now?

[Domenico Montanaro]

I mean, if the election were next week, I'd say that this could be a major wave election. It's not. And I think that one thing that maybe Republicans can take some solace in is that you don't have overwhelming numbers of people saying that they trust Democrats to handle the economy. It's only a four point advantage for Democrats. Although, like I said, it was a huge turnaround from where it was in 2022 and historically where it generally is. I would also say the thing that they have to be concerned about outside of the economy is the intensity of disapproval of President Trump. 50% of registered voters in our survey said that they strongly disapprove of the job Trump is doing. Only 30% of independents say that they approve of the job that he's doing. And the people who feel this strongly, the people who are angry, are the ones who turn out in midterm elections more so than any other group. And we've seen over the last few years that Democrats have started to be able to win in low turnout elections because of how the demography of the parties has shifted.

[Danielle Kurtzleben]

Yes, Americans very much vote on the economy, but it's hard to underestimate how much just general vibes contribute to how people vote. It's very much true. And we have seen some little smidges of Republicans being willing to say no, thank you to things that Trump has wanted. For example, in Indiana, the Trump pushed redistricting effort, a bunch of Indiana Republican lawmakers said, no, we're not going to do that. This past week, we saw a lot of conservatives really come out with some backlash against some callous remarks that Trump said about the late liberal director Rob Reiner in the wake of Rob Reiner's killing. Those are two little data points. But when you have things like that, like distractions, like the Rob Reiner thing, willingness to say, no, thank you, willingness of at least a few people to vote against his wishes, I think it opens the door for more people to say, well, you know, he's only in office a couple years longer.

[Domenico Montanaro]

I think the key thing there, though, is the sort of intensity of approval. If that's going down, then it's more likely to lead to people staying home and not necessarily voting, especially with Trump not on the ballot. Because Republicans have really struggled in getting conservatives to turn out to the polls when Trump is not on the ballot. I'll give you just a data point from our survey that maybe speaks to the smidges that Danielle speaks to here. In the last poll, 89% of Republicans last month said that they approved the job Trump was doing. In this poll, it's 84%. Okay.

[Tamara Keith]

Oh, that's actually a dump.

[Domenico Montanaro]

It's down five points. It's within the margin of error. It's a slight movement downward, but it's still 84%. It's still pretty robust. It's higher than where Biden was among Democrats when he was in office. And, you know, I think that when we step back here, for the most part, Republicans are sticking with Trump. And there's a reason for that when we talk to voters. And I spoke to a professor of sociology this week who's written a book about the Tea Party and maga, and he said that essentially, you know, Republicans, maga, they see this as an existential battle between good and evil. And that's gonna go far beyond something like whether or not tariffs are impacting their bottom line.

[Tamara Keith]

And President Trump held a rally last week in Pennsylvania. This Friday, he's holding a rally in North Carolina, another swing state, a state where there is a Senate race. And he is, according to the White House, attempting to make a President Trump sort of a central character in the midterms because if he's not on the ballot, things don't do well. But one thing that has been fascinating to me this week is that he already appears to be distancing himself from the midterms from the rest of his party. And he did this sit down interview with the Wall Street Journal where he says, quote, I've created the greatest economy in history, but it may take people a while to figure these things out. And then he goes on to say, I, I cannot tell you how that's going to equate to the voter. All I can do is do my job.

[Domenico Montanaro]

And it doesn't really matter to him politically that much. I mean, he wants to maintain the House, certainly, but he's not going to be on the ballot again. He's barred from doing so in 2028. So for the most part, this is a legacy check for Trump. He's going to start looking back on what he's accomplished as president and where he stands as a historical president.

[Tamara Keith]

All right, we're going to leave it there. I'm Tamara Keith. I cover the White House.

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I'm Danielle Kurtzleben. I also cover the White House.

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