In this episode of The OCD Confessional, we’re honored to be joined by Dr. Nathaniel Van Kirk, licensed clinical psychologist and Program Director at McLean Hospital’s OCD Institute, to explore one of the most distressing and misunderstood forms of OCD: contamination OCD.

Nathaniel shares what his own experience with OCD looked like — including early memories of compulsions — and explains how contamination fears can hijack daily life in ways that go far beyond ordinary caution. We talk about how contamination obsessions and compulsions develop, how hygiene routines can become traps of uncertainty, and what evidence-based treatment like ERP (Exposure and Response Prevention) can actually do to help.

We break down:
• What contamination OCD really feels like — fear vs. logic vs. anxiety
• Why contamination fears aren’t just about germs but about uncertainty
• How compulsions (handwashing, cleaning, avoidance) can become self-reinforcing
• How clinicians and patients approach ERP for contamination themes

Whether you’re living with contamination OCD, supporting someone who is, or just want a deeper understanding of how OCD affects behavior and thoughts, this episode offers clarity, compassion, and hope.

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