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Adam Rippon
And welcome to Intrusive Thoughts. Welcome back to Intrusive Thoughts. If you've been here before, I am, like always your host, Adam Rippon. And it's so good to be here. I am back from Finland. So the last time I recorded an episode of this podcast, I was recording it literally fresh off of the plane, which was an insane thing for me to do. And I did think, like, oh, my God, I'm gonna record so many podcast episodes here. And I didn't at all. And I really thought that, like, oh, my God, this'll be so beautiful because I'll. I'll have this beautiful background. If you watch the podcast, you know that the background of where I was recording at the cottage. My husband built a cottage in Finland, and that's where I was staying with him. Imagine, I'm like, we're just like, not gonna see each other. No, I was staying at the cottage. Uh, but the background's like, so beautiful, so much nature. And I was like, oh, my God, I'll record so many episodes here and just recorded one in a complete blackout. Uh, you know what? So be it. I'm gonna say this. When I traveled to Europe, the continent of Europe, I will be honest, and I feel like I figured it out, an old trick that I hadn't used in a while, in a long time, to overcome jet lag. And I think the best way to overcome jet lag is extreme and almost dangerous exhaustion. And how does one achieve this level of danger? You don't sleep a wink on the plane. You don't close those eyeballs one time, and I didn't. And I got to Finland and was tired, but I, you know, I. I stayed true to myself, absolutely pushed through. And then when I came home back to the United States of America, I also didn't sleep on that flight coming back. And I feel like I was able to overcome. Okay, I was able to overcome the jet lag a bit. Like, I was tired towards the ends of the day. And did I get much done last week when I got back? No. In fact, I was supposed to record another episode of the podcast, you know, to bank them, you know, just in case, like, something comes up. Like, we've got something, like, in storage. Didn't do that. And, you know, that's on me. But I was overcoming extreme health dangers I put myself into. But I wasn't jet lagged. Now that I'm saying it out loud, I guess I was just didn't feel like it. And I just didn't sleep on the plane. There's another thing I want to bring up, and this is about the background of where I'm recording right now. And I want you to know that there was one point when somebody from Podcast one, we love our family at Podcast one, said, hey, maybe you want to get like, a background so that, like, you know, like a sheet or something for the background. And I said, you know, let's just keep it, like, raw, right? Like, I am where I am and I am who I am, so let's just, like, make it what it is. And I have a little screen in front of me that's showing me what is behind me. And I'm realizing now that the background of where I record is getting ugly, uglier and uglier. So just to paint you a picture, I'm looking right now. Oh, right now behind me, my dog is cleaning himself. Right? That's the. That's one thing. He doesn't do that all the time. He usually just sleeps like, he looks like the pieces of pork when you go to a butcher. Like the poster, he sleeps like that. Except for right now when he is cleaning himself, like I said. But also now I've installed a new thing I record in my office when I'm home, and in my office in the like scenario, not the scenario in the scene. How about that? In the scene of which I record Good Night, everyone, I am sitting in, like, angled so that. Because, like, behind me, right behind me is you can see, like, I have mirrors. Like, I've mirrored closet doors. Because this is like a half office, half closet. I know, ingenuity at its finest. But so you can see, like, behind me, there's the door to this office. And usually it's like, nothing's on it. But I've. I've made a new addition to this room, and it's the ugliest ironing board and iron money could buy. And I have put it on the door. And it's not until right now, because this is the first time I'm recording in my office in a while. It's been a few weeks that I am noticing it, and I'm going, wow, that background would have come in handy right about now because the background of this podcast situation is getting truly uglier and uglier. I have, like, a background that I've done many unsuccessful self tapes, auditions for. So I don't know if I want to put it in the back here. I don't know if it's cursed or if it's like we're just waiting for the right one to come around, but it's cumbersome, you know, And I want to be able to, like, move my arms and, like, move around. So. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. We're gonna wait on that. We'll see. Another thing. So in Finland, to go back to being in Finland, one of my favorite things about being in Finland is that my in laws will always know that I'm there, even if no one tells them that I am there. Because, and this happens almost every single time I go to the great country of inland, it's that I will post a TikTok or an Instagram story and I'll say something, I don't know, mildly outrageous, funny. Knee knocking. The knee knocking. I don't. I've never heard anyone use that before, but I'll roll with it. Knee knocking, whatever the hell that means. And it will, nine times out of 10, end up in some sort of, like, Finnish newspaper or in some sort of Finnish news article. And so they'll always find out that I'm there. Because then all of a sudden, jp, my husband, will get a call from his parents and they'll start asking him, so what kind of stories is Adam telling about Finnish candy? Because I'm reading a news article on it right now. And that's one of the things I do love, is that in Finland, I'm in control of the media, is what I'm trying to say. I just. I think that's funny. Think it's cute. What else? I want you to listen to my voice as I move on to the next subject. And I want you to hear me, and I want to ask the audience, does this sound like the voice of a free man? It should. Because I have mentioned on this podcast before that I was at the time a member of the gym Equinox. And I also, while mentioning that I was a member of this gym, said that I also did hate it and that it was quite expensive. It was like north of 200, 250. Like, it was. It was a lot. And the location that I was going to isn't. It's like not. It was not worth it at all. Okay. And I did say in this episode of When I was talking about it, that anytime I would get an email to send a review, I would write a scathing review, hoping that it would get to the CEO. Most likely never did. But I'm asking if I sound free, because I have canceled that membership and the shackles are off and I'm a free agent. I am free to do whatever I want. I was always free to do whatever I want, but I felt burdened by the expectations of being a member of Equinox, a gym that I hated, publicly hated, and was, you know, a one side feud, me completely fighting with them. And so now I'm no longer a part of that culture. Not a part of that culture. I don't identify with that culture. And so I'm kind of on the hunt for like a gym alternative, a different one. I don't know, I don't really know what to do. There's like some sort of like, this is what really what I don't want to do. I'll tell you. I. I think going to like workout classes is a good idea. Okay. I think that going to the workout classes works for a lot of people and I think that it could work for me. But the one thing I really don't want to do is a hit class. Okay. I would just like to do some sort of like. There is no sort of like weight training group class sort of thing. That's like not a CrossFit sort of venture, which I absolutely refused to do. And if you're a crossfitter, that is incredible. But I. You're going to have to keep doing that on your own because I'm not joining you. Not anytime soon or while I have free will. I'm not doing that. So I'm trying to think of something because there is, I was thinking like Pilates, right? Like that could be fun and like make me strong. But there's only. There's like. I don't know, I just haven't done it in a long time. I'm scared. And there's one place around me that there's like group classes. I'm like, awesome. And they're like, it's Pilates with treadmill. And I'm like, why did the treadmill have to get involved? Like, why couldn't we just stay on the Reformer and you know, hook our knees up and ankles up to the straps and stuff? Do we really have to like get on the treadmill? I don't want to do that, but I guess that is sort of like, you know, the idea of exercises. You have to do things you don't want to do. I just don't want to do like a HIIT class. I don't know. It's just. It's not. I have to. I really have to think. I've thought of like, maybe looking to see if I could take like boxing classes. Wouldn't that be fun? If I knew how to box. I think so. I think that could be interesting. I think Pilates, I really want to do like Pilates. I think, like, that's really where it's at. I don't know why. I'm just like really feeling that I want to take Pilates. I just don't want to do it like in our, in our signature hit class. Like, I don't want to do that version of it. I just want to like, take a breath, right. Do the Pilates. So I'm, I'm still trying to think, I'm still trying to like brainstorm what to do next because there's not a like regular schmegular gym around me that I'm really interested in enjoying. I'm not. Ah, it's not. That's not for me. I've realized it's not for me and I don't know if it ever will be. Like, I'm not like a. Let's just like walk in here and like do whatever we want. Like, I need a bit of structure and, and I think that that's good that I've learned that about myself, you know, that I, I need that structure. Anyway, let's get to a text message. I. I've just been going on and on and on. Let's get to a text message. All right, our first one. Hi, longtime fan here. Your notebook series from a million years ago remains one of my all time favorite things ever posted online. Truly iconic. I think of you every time I see a notebook, which is. I'm going to pause. Incredible. Yeah, you people see notebooks everywhere. And to be a person that comes top of mind when you see a notebook is. It's. That is true influence. Okay. And if it's not a multiple, five star multi subject. Okay, here, I'll start that over. And if it's not a multiple subject, five star notebook. I feel a little annoyed inside. Anyway, I'm a teacher and it's back to school season, AKA prime notebook time. So naturally had to ask, is it time for a refreshed take on notebook superiority? Do you still stand by your original choices or has a newer product emerged to steal your heart? One more question. I too love my Owala. I love mine too. Mine's on the floor because again, like in the back, I don't need something the size of like a pipe bomb and then an iron. Like as quickly as this podcast got picked up by network, it will get dropped. So I do feel like in a way I'm on thin ice. Back to the Owala. I too love my Olla, but I'm not really a covered in chaotic inspirational stickers kind of person. However, I would proudly slap on a sticker that says, I gotta get these Ozs into the BO D Y or can't do nothing about it. Any plans for podcast Merch? Incredible segue? Love, love, love the podcast. I am not exaggerating when I am. I am not exaggerating when I say I almost had to pull over during the Emilio poopy drug test story because I was laughing so hard it nearly took me out. There's a lot of crazy in the world right now, and having intrusive thoughts to escape into, even for just an hour, is such a gift. Thanks for making us laugh. No, no. Thank you for writing a text message and making me laugh. Plans for merch. Not in the immediate future, but we've got to do. I mean, everybody needs merch. Everybody needs quoted sweatshirts, right? There's not enough of them in the world, and I feel like I should add into the world. Okay, Stickers. No, no, no. I'm not a stickers person. It can be done well, right? But you've got to fully commit to the bit. It's like you have to go all in. I'm not like, I put one on there because it's just. I don't know. No, no, no. And also, okay, you're not a cover it in stickers kind of person, but you do want to put in. I gotta get these Ozs into the B O D Y. Sounds like someone's been eyeing something on Etsy for a minute and it feels like it's in the cart. Just get it. Just get it. You want to do it. I know you want to do it. There's one thing about this is, like, now popping into my mind that I like it, like, blows my mind every time that if you get an Apple product, there's usually that, like, white apple sticker inside the product. The people who do put that sticker on something, sometimes they'll even put it onto the product. Should be clinically studied. I believe that's a crazy sticker to use. Just. I'm putting that out there, putting it. I, like, I see sometimes people put it on the laptop. If they buy a laptop. I've seen it on a water bottle and I don't. I don't know the, like. I think if you're gonna decorate with stickers, they need to have some sort of, like, meaning or feeling or like something behind them, right? That there's no style or flair to that one. I'm just saying. I'm just saying I'd rather go with the Ozs into the B O. D. Yeah. So I just think we gotta go with something that has a little bit of flair. I'd love to go back and forth between texts and voices. Voices. Oh, God, cut that out. Voices, texts. Maybe I need to think of, like, the difference between that. Do you know what I'm trying to say, everyone? I'm trying to think of, like, what's a cute thing to say about a text message? What's a cute thing to say about a voicemail? But maybe when you're 35, you should not be so concerned about being cute. I pass out. All right, let's. Let's go to a voicemail. As I've said. Please leave your message after the tone.
Caller
Hi, Adam. And just finished from nipple to knee. And so my thoughts. So you were on this compete, like, professionally anymore. Why didn't you just, like, cancel? Because you said something about, you know, if you. If you're there, it's like, three no shows is like a failed test. So it would be, like, one no for you. And why. Why. Why not have just done that instead of pooping in front of Emilio? Like, I feel like. Like you're not competing more at that point. Why didn't you just think, you know what? I'm gonna tell him? Sorry, I can't today. Bye.
Adam Rippon
Okay, this is actually. This is a good question, because I did have actually quite a few people reach out to me and ask, like, why did you decide to poop in front of that guy? Right. They phrased it differently. I'm phrasing it that way. So to just give a bit of background. In another episode, I told the story of how one time I had to take a random drug test for when I was competing. And I was. I already had, like, finished competing. I just had not taken myself out of, like, the. The drug testing pool, which meant that I could still be up for elimination. No, I could still be up for, like, a random drug test. And so basically, to make a long story short, I had the agent come to my house, and you have to pee in front of the agent, famously. It's like a nipple to knee. You need to, like, have that exposed so they can see that it's, like, not a fake, that you're creating the sample in front of them. And I came to a point, A fork in the road, you might say. And that fork, when it's either you're gonna poop in front of the Sky. Because it was like, I could feel that. Like I had to take diarrhea or. You're gonna be the first person to turn poop into pee. Mentally and physically kind of poof. Like a, you know, mentally changing it from one exit to the other, which, like, didn't. Doesn't exist and isn't possible. So you either going to, you know, this will be your first miracle towards beatification, or you were going to have to take a shit in front of this person who you've kind of known, not well, but intimately for the past few years. My doping agent. And so I did take a shit. Sorry, whatever. And in front of. His name was Emilio. Great guy, by the way. And it was the last time I was ever gonna see him, right? So this caller's referencing that. Like, why didn't I just. If I really wanted to see Emilio that badly, which I'll be. I did. He's a great guy. I didn't need to see him that badly. So why. Once I realized that I had to take a shit, didn't I go, okay, this isn't going to happen. Like, we're not doing this test. So that does feel like a simple answer, right? Like, if you in this situation needed to take a drug test and you needed to take a shit, and you know that you have, like, three, you're allowed to. So basically, I've mentioned this before, but, like, when you do the. When you're in this drug testing pool, you have to submit whereabouts for, like, where you are at all times for, like, three months at a time. And if you're not at a location where they come to, like, test you randomly, you. They'll call you, we're on our way. We're going to be there. You have, like, 60 minutes to get to that location. Because they. They do give you a bit of grace, right? Like, if you're like, I. I'll be home. And you actually, like, went to Costco, right? There's some grace period of like, oh, I'll turn right around. I'll be there. And if you're like, let's say you went on vacation, but you never updated your whereabouts, and you're like, no, I'm in Florida, God forbid, and I'm not home. I'm not going to. There's no way I can be at my home in Southern California in 60 minutes. That's a missed test. You're allowed three missed tests before it counts as a failed test. So there have been, like, athletes, I mean, all the time, actually, who have three misstests and then get a doping violation, and then they're not allowed to compete for a season or two seasons. Like, it's. It's severe. And it's this the stupidest way to, like, lose funding, by the way. And so why didn't. In the moment. So then, you know, you don't know you have to poop before you have to poop, right? So when I realized that I needed to take this test, I made sure that I was, like, I was on my way home. We met each other, like, at the same time where I was living. And, you know, I didn't need to pee at the time. So it was like drinking water. Drinking water, actually. Gatorade, actually. Which got me zero. Gatorade Frost flavor. Delicious. And so I'm just giving you back. If you know the story, you know it. Let's relive it together. Come on. Let's do one more time. Encore. And so I basically guzzled, like, three Gatorade zeros, and instead of turning to pee, it turned to diarrhea and pee. And one more time for the people in the back. Diarrhea. So when I realized that. And again, like I mentioned, when you do this test in front of someone, you have to have nipple to knee exposed. So there's a few things that people have asked me that will go along with this. That feels like a violation of privacy. Yeah, I agree with you. Right? You don't ever want to be standing in front of someone with your shirt under your armpits and your knees around your ankles, your pants around your knees. Right? Like, you don't want that. But why do we have to do that? Well, because people try to cheat, right? That's why you're in a doping pool when you're an athlete, so that, like, you can be randomly tested to make sure that you're not cheating. Because if you were cheating, you'd go, oh, let me go to the bathroom, and you'd have your, like, spare cup of pee from somebody else, and you'd pour it in a cup. What? How am I even bringing up that? Sit. That's probably happened, right? There are people. People will go to such extremes to cover up that they are doping to the fact where it's like, I've even heard of people, like, pulling out of their pants a fake penis that would pee, clean pee. Do you understand what I'm saying? Like, a hose out of their pants that would then spout out someone else's undrugged pee, right? So that you need to be nipple Denise. So they can see where it's coming from. And I, it's not like they're Harriet the Spy with the magnifying glass going, what's going on here? Like, they, you know, they wait and they, they give you privacy enough, but they have, you have to have like the bathroom door open if you're like home alone or whatever. But like, they need to see what's going on at all times to make sure that you're not giving a fake sample. So that's why. And like, you know, people talk about like, well, if you're a minor, like that you. Well, if you're a minor, they, you are required to have like a guardian with you in this situation. But it's the same situation because you're an athlete and you're held to these, like, standards and people try to cheat. And the whole point of being in a doping pool is so that you don't cheat. And so I know it can feel like, hey, that's weird or unfair. What's, that's the name of the game. And people have tried for years and still try to cheat. And so this is to make sure that's why this is part of the protocol of like, you know, it's funny and obviously I love and I will say until the cows come home. Nipple to knee. I think that's the craziest, you know, phrase. That's what gonna be our merch. Our first piece of merch will be nipple to knee. But yeah, people try to cheat. That's basically why so you know, there's absolutely no cheating going on. When you have to look someone in the eyes and go, I have to poop in front of you. Right? They know you're not a cheater. They know you're an honest, hard working man. And so there's nothing. They're not gonna say anything about that now. Why would I just say, okay, you're allowed three missed tests. That's correct. But you have to miss those tests. They need to be like, location oriented. So like I said, you don't know you have to poop until you have to poop, right? So once I had confirmed with the agent that I was on my way back, I was then going to be present for the test. There's no missing that test, Right? You have to miss the test. You need to not be available for the test. That's like a missed test. And you're allowed three of those violations, which I had never had one of those violations before. Was I against getting it at this point? Only, you know, because I, I, I said that, you know, I had been retired and was planning to, you know, take myself out of this doping pool just so I didn't have these like, random tests anymore. I wasn't competing, I didn't need to be in the doping pool anymore. And I just had forgotten to do that. So to get back to poop in Daikaria. So, Right. I forgot where I was. You know, just clouded by thinking of that hose shaped as a penis coming out of somebody's pant. Like, just remember that. Like, people have tried that. So, yeah, so once I had confirmed with the agent that, like, I'm coming, I'm not missing that you can't miss a test you're going to be there for. Right. So something else that you talked about, and I think that this is great, because I want to talk about, because I, I think sometimes it's easy to think like, oh, we're having like a casual conversation about this, but how serious it is. It doesn't matter how many times I say the word diarrhea. Diarrhea, diarrhea, diarrhea. It doesn't get any less serious. So, yeah, there's no missing that test. Now let's say it's like, okay, you're gonna be retired anyway. Who cares? So let's say you're, we do what you said to do. And I go, all right, you know, I'm not doing this. I have to poop. I'm not competing anymore. Like, I'm gonna take this one. And like, sorry, like, we're not doing it. Okay, well then what does that look like? That looks like I've refused the drug test. So what will show up is that I refused to take a drug test. And if you. And that would show up on like my record. Correct? Because that's a violation. You can't refuse a drug test. That's the same as like a failed test is refusing to take one. So why would you refuse to take a drug test? Right? In this one situation, it's because you have to go diarrhea. But in 99% of the other ones, it's cuz you're on drugs, right? And so I had to follow through with that test because it doesn't matter if I know and you know that it's because I had to poop, right? What will then come out is that like Adam Rippon refuses to take drug test. And I could, you know, be Jerry Seinfeld doing stand up at like the, the comedy shop every night going, but I had to whatever. But the History books will go, you refuse to test. You would only refuse a test if you were on drugs and you were cheating. It doesn't matter if I was going to retire or not. I still had an obligation as a clean athlete to take that test. So you're right where it's like, I just, why do I need to do this? And I could have just called him and got gotten a coffee, but the implications are, like, way more than that. It's like you've refused the test, which is you just have to think if it shows up, that you've refused a test and somebody said, this person refused to take a drug test, what would you think? And so that's why I was never going to refuse that test. And I'd rather take a diarrhea in front of everyone, everyone who listens to this, than refuse a drug test. And that's how serious I am about being clean. Because I'll also say this. There. There's another athlete that I'm thinking of right now who was basically retired in the same situation, and, like, a doping agent came to their place late at night, and they said, can we just reschedule and, like, do it later? And what ended up happening was like, I guess it all seemed like all. All good at the time, but then what ended up coming out was that that person refused a test. And so, yeah, like, it just shows up on your record as, like, you refused a test. And then that gets out and that turns into a big talking point. And as somebody who, like, you know, I work in Olympic sports now, I would never want that professionally of, like, even if it was just like, I wasn't competing anymore, guys, whatever. And I was never doing, like, I've. I've never. This might be shocking to admit, and I've admitted this before. I've never done, like, any, like, party drugs before. Well, obviously when I was, like, competing, it just wasn't gonna do that. And now I'm, like, older. I'm like, that's weird to do it now. And I'm not gonna start now. I'm not gonna start at all. I'll tell you, sometimes when you see people do those drugs, everything looks all good, and then one day you see them, and it's just everything has started to droop and sag. Not me. No, not me at all. Because I'm doing. I'm taking diarrhea poop tests in front of people, even though I don't have to, to prove my innocence and cleanliness. Anyway, that's. I wanted to share that Some people had some questions about that, and it's so, like, normal to me to just think about, like, the drug test in that way. But I'm realizing, like, as I was talking about it and the questions I got, it's like, oh, it's not normal. I guess people aren't randomly drug tested all the time since they're 18 years old. Anyway, let's do a text message. Hey, Adam, you seem like the guy qualified for this. Any tips on saving money and not buying dumb stuff? One, I'm honored. And two, I don't know if I'm qualified for this, but I'm gonna give it a go. How about that? Am I giving it a go? Kind of looks like this. Do I like to buy some things that, like, you don't necessarily need? Yes. But I'm also very quick to get rid of things that I'm not using. And I believe, and I try to make this a practice, that if I'm like, I want to get something new, I can't get anything new until I get rid of something old. Does that make sense to you? So I'm not, like, adding into the house. So, like, the house is just filled with junk, right? Like, as you're looking behind me, I have an. A water bottle on the ground. I have an ironing board on the door. So I am surrounded by kind of junk. Junky things. I love them both, by the way. I want that on the record. I love both of those things, but this is my biggest tip, and it's kind of this. You need to kind of bully yourself a little bit. When you're, like, looking at that thing you want, you have to be a bully and be like, ew. You're getting that. You have to say that to yourself. I say the nastiest things to myself. The nastiest things. Ew. Only a loser would get that. I don't know if that's, like, good or bad, but it does stop me from spending money too frivolously because I will absolutely reason to myself be like, this is the greatest purchase I've ever made. It's like a. A welcome mat, right, from Lowe's. And I need this. And then I'll get home and be like, why did I. I didn't need this. So I'm still making, like, dumb purchases. Not that that's done. You gotta wipe your feet before you come into my house. But I'm trying to think of. I mean, I can reason everything I own to myself, which is a mental illness, but I think that, like, if you. If you're on the fence about it, that means it's a no. And I think that's just like, the simple. If I have to break it down all the way, that if you're like, oh, I don't know, should I or should not? You shouldn't. If you're wondering if you should, you shouldn't. Right? I think, like. And it also depends on, like, where in the house. Is this, like, a piece of clothing? Is it like an appliance? Is it like, what? Or if it's just junk, right? A lot of times it's just. It is just like, tchotchke junk. We don't need that. We really don't need that. Unless you have, like, a spot for it already. Yeah, you gotta bully yourself a little bit. We need to bring a little bit of, like, you know, I know a lot of people are like, don't talk badly to yourself. Sometimes you need it. Right? We sometimes need to go. Only an idiot would buy that. Because it's true. Because sometimes only an idiot would buy what you're going, I need that. Right? Do you. Do you need that or do you need help? Probably need help, right? It's probably the latter. You probably don't need that. Whatever that is. You've probably been doing fine just without that. Just saying. Just do a little bit of bullying, light bullying. You know, it's like tough parenting, tough love. We need a little tough love from ourselves. Okay. I just. I believe in that. Let's do a voicemail. Loving the back and forth, by the way. So done. Please leave your message after the tone.
Caller
Hi, Adam. As I'm sure you saw, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey announced their engagement today. Very exciting, and I am a true Swiftie, and I know you are too, so I'm very excited. But I was calling because I figured, you know, in lieu of this big announcement, I really just wonder what your thoughts are on a relationship dynamic, you know, because Taylor Swift is this genius, you know, artist, lyricist, performer who, you know, she has an intelligence beyond what we can comprehend. And Travis, you know, I love Travis Kelce, but he's a bit of a goofy guy, you know, and he, as she said in high school, he knows how to ball and she knows Aristotle. So I'm just wondering what you think on this relationship dynamic and whether you think to be truly fulfilled, people need to be with someone of their, you know, mental level. Not the Travis isn't, but you. You know what I mean? So I'd love. I'd love your thoughts on this. And whether opposites can be compatible. Thank you.
Adam Rippon
I think that was the nicest way you could have called somebody stupid. Okay, I. I understand what you mean that, like, I understand what you mean. Okay, Just. I want to say that I'm going to start with that and I'm also gonna say that. Let me expand up on it. Okay, Expand upon it even. I think Taylor Swift can be very introspective and she can. She's, you know, a great lyricist and she obvious, very creative. And then you have somebody like Travis Kelsey who, you know, is posting tweets in 2011. I'll just remind everyone, 2011, he loves a girl with a great sense of homer. H O M E R Hashtag plus and yeah, I do like, remember that because it's really funny. That's very funny to me. Which is less learned than writing a song, I guess. Love a girl with a great sense of homer plus it's incred. I mean, that's really like. That is incredible. Now I understand what you're saying about like that. That dynamic and that like, maybe in your mind it's just like Taylor Swift was going to marry somebody who's like, also like a poet and from Reading, Pennsylvania. Right. Like, maybe they were also like going to be as philosophical. But I'm going to tell you why I really think this dynamic works so perfectly. I think from like many people's perspectives that Taylor Swift is like this ultra. And I mean, it's. This is true. Also I'm acting like this is like a lot of people believe she's like one of the most famous women on earth, but for, for many people, it's like there's nobody who could be more famous than Taylor Swift. And they love her. They love everything about. About her. They're huge fans of her. And she is bombarded with like, people all around her. Like, not a lot of opportunity for her to do things in public and not be recognized, all of that stuff. And in, in Taylor Swift's world, that's the world that she lives in, that she is like widely recognized, very much appreciated and respected in. In her world. Okay. I think a lot of people aren't realizing, I think, you know, right. Like we all know, but like in the football world, Travis Kelsey is incredibly famous and accomplished, like in his own right and in his own way that like, I think in a way he can completely relate to the experiences that Taylor has. And I think that he really appreciates that Taylor can relate to the experiences that he has. And I think that is something that's like, so bonding. Because probably the way that they might view the world is very similar because of this similar, like, experiences that they have with fame, right? Which, you know, no matter how you form a song or a tweet or have good sense ofHOMER hashtag plus. I think that speaks a lot of volume. I think that speaks. I think that that's such an important part of, like, the foundation of their relationship is that they understand the way they might perceive different situations, and they can understand and see each other in a way that, like, other people might not be able to do that or might be intimidated by that. Because I think that, you know, from my perspective, right, this is all from my perspective, but from my perspective, I imagine that, like, when Travis Kelsey sees Taylor Swift perform in a concert, it's a. It's amazing, and it's incredible because he gets to see this incredible person do what they do best and be celebrated by millions of people. And it's just so cool, and it's so awesome. And I really believe there's, like, not one single ounce of jealousy or, like, how do I get this? Or, like, oh, my God, like, am I being overshadowed or any sort of ego when he goes into this? And I think that when they're on, like, the football side of everything, it's like Taylor Swift finally gets to go into a situation where it's, like, not about her. And I think when everything is, like, about you, that I like in her world, right? Like, it's not just Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift is like, the name of a brand at that point because you have so many people involved in, like, the creatives and this and that. And it's like, at the heart of the brand is, like, the. The person, but at the forefront is, like, the image. And when she goes to these, like, football things, it's like, she is the person, and it's not about her. It's about what's happening out on the field. It's about someone else. The. Yes. When she's there, it's a big deal. And there's obviously, like, a lot of attention and opinions, which I think if your opinion is that, like, I hate her and she's awful, it's crazy. That's a crazy opinion to have of somebody who's just at a football game. But I think that when she's there, like, there's such a. A dynamic shift that, like, it must feel really fun and nice to be able to put your energy into somebody else and not have it be a about you. And so I think for Travis. It's probably like somebody is coming into that space, and they're not, like, intimidated by it. They're empowered by it. They're excited by it. And also, they have their own thing going on. And I think that's really attractive to a lot of people. It's like when your partner has their own thing that they, like, love and are passionate about. And for the two of them, like, they both do what they do at the highest level. And so I think that, like, I think that, yeah, like, sometimes it can come off as, like, she's so smart and he's a meathead. But, like, I think that at the end of the day, the connection that they have, I. I can imagine is, like, a lot deeper than that because of the experiences that they've had in their lives in regards to fame and the way people perceive them or interact with them, and that maybe for the first time, their partner isn't disillusioned by any of that or thinks anything of it and appreciates the same things that they appreciate, which are, like, real core values to having, like, a strong relationship. And so, like, they might seem like totally opposites, but I think there's something so beautiful about the way that they connect in the way that, like, they're both so famous and so well respected in their each individual, like, worlds that nobody's trying to get anything out of anybody. Do you know what. Do you know? Kind of know what I'm saying? I think that, like, that's really refreshing and beautiful and something that will, like, connects them very deeply. And so that's what I think about that. And also the Travis kelce tweets from 2011. It's like, that's. It was good. Like, that's Obama era tweeting, which is the greatest era of Twitter, I believe. And so, yeah, I just. That's. That's my thought on that. I feel like maybe one more text message. I'm lying. We're gonna do one more voicemail. Actually, we're gonna do maybe two more voicemails because just listen to this. Cut to the voicemail, please. Please leave your message after the tone.
Caller
This is Maureen in Massachusetts. I don't know if anyone else called in about the pistachio problem, but you can take a half of an already open pistachio and wedge it into a pistachio that's stubborn and twist, and it opens right up. It's a really neat trick. You should try it.
Adam Rippon
I just think that's important to share because we did have a listener who texted the Podcast, which you can do at any time, who said that they hated when the pistachios can't be opened and said, this is truly brilliant from Maureen. And so I've never heard. I. I do want to kind of try that myself. Not that I don't believe you, Maureen. I do believe you. I've never believed anyone more. But that is interesting how that. I guess it's sort of like the nut. The tweezer of the nut. Right? That's sharp shell twist. And as promised, a final voice. Actually, before we get to the voicemails, we had a caller say that I needed to add the number to, like, the link tree. Like, it make the. The phone number to the podcast more accessible. And I went, okay, so if you'd like to. And the podcast isn't done, we're gonna do one more voicemail. So stay tuned for that. But if you want to text or call the podcast, you can obviously, that number is 310-90971 17. I know that that's not going to roll off everyone's tongue as. As easy as it has rolled off of mine. So if you want to do that, you can go to my Instagram profile, and up at the top, there's gonna be a button that says call. You can just press that call button and you'll be able to text or call the podcast. That number is also going to be in the link tree. So that was an amazing suggestion. And that's how I know that we. We're building a community, a movement of people. And, yeah, I guess in, like, from my own perspective, it was like, you're gonna write that number down pen to paper. Who the fuck is gon not. So I'm. Thank you for kind of keeping me accountable. And I want you to know that I heard you and hear you loud and clear. That number is now easily accessible. You can go to my Instagram account, click on call, or you can find the number 310-909-7117 in my link tree. I guess I was just counting on people going, oh, where's that notepad? Well, they're, like, driving. This is much easier. Much easier. I don't. I'm so sorry. I never thought of this myself, but, you know, it takes a village, and it takes a voicemail, and it takes courage to admit that, hey, that was a little bit tough because also, like, let's say you're listening to the podcast. If I'm listening to someone else's podcast, and I'm like, oh, I do want to call in. I'm not gonna, like, fast forward through and go, where did they say that? Not gonna do that, right. You gotta make it easy for people. You were right. And I am not afraid to admit that I was terribly wrong not to offer that in the first place. And as promised, a final voicemail. Please leave your message after the tone.
Caller
Bro, I just listened to Nipple to me. Hilarious. Absolutely love you. But there were two different instances in this episode where there was racing car sound effects. One was from an ad for a race car driver, I believe, and the other one was from your hilarious sound effects machine. Listen, you and podcast one. Oh, baby girl, I know you didn't like it. You either. You and podcast one just need to have a little chat because I listened to this in the car, Obi, and that was scary. Okay? I don't want to suddenly feel like I'm gonna die listening to your podcast because I think that there's road rage happening around me. So keep it up on all other fronts, including the diarrhea stories, but you gotta cut out the racing car sound effects. Love ya. Bye.
Adam Rippon
Again, this is how I know that we're creating community. Right? Consider that note taken. I do not want you and your baby daughter to think that you are all of a sudden in a massive traffic racing situation. I don't want that. Obviously, your baby hated that. And I want this to be the number one podcast for babies who love me. And so I don't want. I don't want my first hater. No, I'm probably not the first hater. I don't want my youngest hater to be your daughter. I don't think that would be good for your household or good for my ego or image. I don't think that would be good. So consider the dangerous sounding car sounds is. Yeah, I do listen to podcasts when I'm driving. And, you know, in the moment of editing, I'm sure it feels really good. Right? Oof. That feels fun. But I'm sure in the car, in the moment of driving, it feels very terrible. So I apologize to you and to your family, and I think that's the greatest way to end today's episode is with that apology. Something I'll never apologize for is for. I don't know, I think I'd apologize for a lot of things, to be fair, but I'll never apologize for being myself. And I think that is. That's how, you know, we need to call it for today. Anyway, make sure that you Give this podcast 5 stars wherever you listen to Your podcasts or ever you give things reviews to just throw this in. Any Yelp review for anything. Just go. And I listen to intrusive thoughts. Five stars. Just do that. And you can call or text the podcast. I would love that. Now you know that number is in my Instagram profile. You can just click on call or the link in my bio. You can click on that link and you'll find the number in there. And if you're old school like I kind of thought everyone would be, don't know why. Get out that pen. Get out that paper. 310-909-9717. Oh my God. Wait, that's making me think of one more thing. If you have five more minutes, I'm gonna go on one more tangent. So somebody asked if you know we were talking about the owalla. The teacher who texted us, do I still hold the same stance as I did on five star notebooks as I did in the past? Absolutely. I have one right here. Right here. I take notes while I'm talking because sometimes I forget what I'm saying, which you're going, no shit. Really? Yeah. No, I do. Sometimes I absolutely can't remember anything. But yeah. Five star notebooks. The greatest notebook of all. There's just something about the way the pen hits the paper. There's something the way that a five star notebook hit. It's like a five star notebook is the best. A two subject five star notebook is absolutely my favorite notebook of all time. It's never changed. It's been this way for over 10 years. Yeah. And anything else is a piece of shit. I don't know. I don't know if that's true, but I'll go with that. I also talked on this podcast about my favorite pens. This is my favorite kind of pen. A Uniball Vision Elite. And I didn't realize there was like a community of people. Like I said, we're creating a community. There's also a community of people who rally around the different kinds of pens and paper that they use. And I'll let you know, I used to be. Really. And I think I've even mentioned this before. We really cover like such trying topics on this podcast, like the should your partner be as intellectually evolved as you are? And also what kind of pen do you write with? Okay. I used to be a real big like Bic, like you know, $1 for a pack of 3,000 where you'd have to press so hard, like use your whole body weight into it. Loved it for a while. But this uniball Vision Elite. It just glides. It's beautiful. So my taste in pens has evolved. Notebooks has stayed absolutely true. I just love the little, like, pocket two subject. Right. There's a pocket little folder in the middle. Comes in handy more than you'd think. But, yeah, my stance on notebooks has absolutely not changed at all. 5 star 2 subject. Whatever size it this is, the one I'm holding in front of me is about the size of my head, which, yeah, that's all I have to say about that. If you're looking for the perfect notebook, go to, you know, any sort of, like, school supplies place and look for a notebook that's roughly the size of Adam Rippon's head. Me. And that's the perfect one. Two Subject. And now is the perfect time to end it. Since I'm asking you to kind of guesstimate the size of my head. I will see you here next week, same time, same place, same intrusive thoughts podcast. Different thoughts, right? Thoughts are always different. They're always intrusive. Thoughts are different. They're also intrusive. I'll work on that. I'm working. I'm working on a new tagline for the merch that we have no plans of doing as of right now. We'll get on it. Stickers first. You know how I love those stickers. Anyway, love you guys. Give this podcast five stars and a great review. An excellent review, please. We would love that. And continue to call and text the podcast. You're the bread and butter of the show. You're the heart of the show. Your thoughts are what make mine intrusive. Better. I don't know. We'll see you next week. Bye, everybody.
Episode: Jet Lag, Drug Tests & Other Intrusive Thoughts
Date: September 4, 2025
Host: Adam Rippon
In this episode, Adam Rippon returns from a trip to Finland and brings his audience along for his latest round of over-the-top and hilarious intrusive thoughts. He discusses his approach to beating jet lag, the disastrous beauty of his podcast recording background, his dramatic breakup with Equinox gym, and listeners' questions about everything from notebooks and pens to the infamous "nipple to knee" anti-doping story. The episode also features listener calls and texts on topics ranging from Taylor Swift’s engagement to pistachio-opening hacks. Throughout, Adam’s comedic flair and candid tone create a lively atmosphere that blends personal stories with listener-driven advice and tangents.
[00:10 - 07:00]
“I think the best way to overcome jet lag is extreme and almost dangerous exhaustion. ... You don't sleep a wink on the plane.” – Adam [01:15]
[07:00 - 12:00]
“It’s the ugliest ironing board and iron money could buy. ... The background of this podcast situation is getting truly uglier and uglier.” – Adam [09:44]
[12:00 - 13:30]
“In Finland, I’m in control of the media, is what I’m trying to say. ... I think that’s funny. Think it’s cute.” – Adam [13:04]
[13:30 - 18:30]
“I have canceled that membership and the shackles are off and I’m a free agent. I am free to do whatever I want.” – Adam [14:15]
“There’s a place around me... it’s Pilates with treadmill. And I’m like, why did the treadmill have to get involved?” – Adam [16:49]
[18:30 - 22:00]
“To be a person that comes top of mind when you see a notebook is… That is true influence.” – Adam [20:00]
“People who put that white apple sticker on something... should be clinically studied. ... That’s a crazy sticker to use.” – Adam [22:23]
[18:41 - 39:29]
“You don’t know you have to poop until you have to poop, right? ... Once I had confirmed with the agent... There’s no missing that test, right? You have to miss the test—you need to not be available for the test.” – Adam [28:10] “What will show up is Adam Rippon refuses to take drug test. ... That would show up on my record... as a violation. ... Why would you refuse a drug test?... it’s ‘cause you’re on drugs, right?” – Adam [32:10]
[39:29 - 40:54]
“You need to kind of bully yourself a little bit. When you’re looking at that thing you want, you have to be a bully and be like, ‘Ew. You’re getting that?’” – Adam [42:45]
[39:29 - 50:12]
“Sometimes it can come off as, like, she’s so smart and he’s a meathead. ... But I think that at the end of the day, the connection that they have... is a lot deeper than that because of the experiences they've had in their lives in regards to fame.” – Adam [45:44] “For the two of them, like, they both do what they do at the highest level... I think that’s really attractive to a lot of people.” – Adam [47:18] “Those Travis Kelce tweets from 2011—it was good, like, that’s Obama era tweeting, which is the greatest era of Twitter, I believe.” – Adam [49:58]
[50:12 - 50:34]
“That’s sharp shell twist.” – Adam [50:40]
[50:34 - 53:43]
[53:43 - 54:47]
“I want this to be the number one podcast for babies who love me… I don’t want my first hater—no, I’m probably not the first hater—I don’t want my youngest hater to be your daughter.” – Adam [54:55]
[54:47 - end]
“Five star notebooks, the greatest notebook of all… Two subject five star notebook is absolutely my favorite notebook of all time.” – Adam [57:04] “This Uniball Vision Elite... it just glides. It’s beautiful. So my taste in pens has evolved. Notebooks has stayed absolutely true.” – Adam [57:44]
On jet lag:
“The best way to overcome jet lag is extreme and almost dangerous exhaustion.” – Adam [01:15]
On refusing to go to Equinox:
“I canceled that membership and the shackles are off and I’m a free agent.” – Adam [14:15]
On the notebook legacy:
“To be a person that comes top of mind when you see a notebook is... true influence.” – Adam [20:00]
On refusing drug tests:
“What will then come out is Adam Rippon refuses to take drug test. ... And that gets out and that turns into a big talking point.” – Adam [32:20]
On tough love with spending:
“If you’re on the fence about it, that means it’s a no.” – Adam [43:45]
On the Taylor/Travis dynamic:
“They both do what they do at the highest level… I think that’s really attractive to a lot of people.” – Adam [47:18]
Adam closes with appreciation for his listeners, reiterating the importance of their calls and texts, and his unwavering loyalty to the two-subject five-star notebook. True to his brand, he delivers both absurdity (“look for a notebook the size of Adam Rippon’s head”) and heartfelt connection, making intrusive thoughts feel like a shared, and hilariously cathartic, community experience.