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It's a bit moodier. This episode is sort of intrusive Thoughts after hours. And I'll tell you that it's exciting. It's exciting to be after the hours. And after what hours? I'm not sure. I do know it's after the hours of when I would usually record this, but I've been quite busy recently, which is a good thing. It is a good thing to be busy. Now, what have I been busy with? So the last two episodes, we had some, like, amazing guests. We had Kim Shapira, the dietitian. We had my dear friend, Michelle Collins, the hilarious. One of the most funny. One of the most. One of. I don't even know what I'm saying. Okay, one of the most funny women in the world. Is that that sound? Is that correct? That sounds like a wrong way of arranging words. Well, we're moving along. Okay, we're gonna just plow through that one. And so I was, you know, I was doing that. Imagine I'm like. And I did that. And that's like the busy thing that. That I've, you know, just. That's why we're after hours. Well, here's the thing. I've mentioned the medical spa kind of at nauseam. Nauseam. Is that correct? Nothing sounds right, but everything feels right, I'll tell you that. But I've been working on the medical spa because I told you I got the keys and I've been painting the hell out of the space and cleaning it up. And off the bat I'm going to tell you this, that I don't know if anyone out there, any of the listeners, any of the intrusive thoughts listeners, if you've ever painted something before. And I don't mean like a canvas and I don't mean like a wall, a statement wall, I mean a room, I mean a full room, I mean a full two rooms. You really look at a wall and when I say you really, I mean I do. And I looked at a wall and I went, what could this take? A gallon. Two gallons, that's gotta be it. Well then all of a sudden you get started and you go, you really gotta load the roller up, you gotta load the brush up, otherwise you're not getting any paint on the wall, you're not painting jack shit, right? So you're going through gallon after gallon after gallon, gallon. And it is, wow, it is quite cumbersome time wise. So I've been spending, I don't know, like 8 to 12 hours every day painting this space. And then obviously I'm not a professional, so it's like I'm getting paint, I'll say it everywhere, I'm like thinking I'm doing a good job and then all of a sudden I'll see like the little stepladder I'm using. One of the legs will be like in the paintive can. And I've been just been like dragging it through the floor and it's just like this miserable trail of theoretical breadcrumbs when really it's just bare paint. And I don't mean like it's just bare paint. Like that's all there is. I'm like, that's the brand. We aren't sponsored by Bear. I and I at this point think I'm the only one keeping them alive. Making endless trips to Home Depot. Is there a hardware store that's not owned by some like trump Nazi? I Because I've been trying to find one and when you dig a little deeper, it's sort of that hardware sort of genre of store. It is hard. It is hard because then everyone's like, go to Lowe's, you should try Lowe's. Well, there's one, there's not one near me, right? Like I'm obviously surrounded by Home Depots, like neck deep and Home Depots. I'm coming clean about that because I was like, I don't feel like sharing that. I've got to I've got to share the truth, right? That I'm, like, literally to the left, to my. To my right. It's like, Home Depot. Home Depot. And then there's like, an out. A Lowe's, like, 30 miles away. And I know for a minute everybody was like, don't go to Home Depot. The. The founder of Home Depot is a big old Trumper. And then you dig a little deeper. They're like, he hasn't been associated with the company for, like, years. You're like, view. And then the next time you go and you look into Lowe's, and you're like, someone on the board of Lowe's is Betsy DeVos. And you're like, how did the hell did she get on that board? You know? And so you can't, like, you can't escape it, right? Even when you're just trying to, like, be a good Samaritan and be like, I'm not supporting that. And then all of a sudden, somebody sneaks their. Pam Bondi is like, the checkout girl at the. The Lowe's. The next day. You're like, how did. I thought, okay, government shutdown is affecting us all. I guess. So that's, you know, that's just me talking about the Home Depot. But, yeah, paint can after paint can. Yeah. And just so much taping, right? Like, you think, like, the painting is, like, what Takes a lot of time. Yeah, it does. Like, don't get it twisted. The painting takes hours, but the prep is so stupid. And I do have, like, the attention span of somebody who shouldn't be taping things. Things. Because at the very beginning, I'm, like, meticulously, like, putting the tape exactly where it should, like, go. And then fast forward five minutes. Not even. I'm like, oh, slap it on. I'll freehand it. And that's what's happening. And then all of a sudden, you know, I have the foot of a ladder inside of a, you know, full can of bare paint. It happens. It happens. I've come. I don't know if I've complained or told you anything about this space, but this space has, like, these gray wood tile floors. Please. I'm sorry. I should have given a trigger warning, but it has these tile floors. So basically, like, the paint, as long as I. I can just, like, wash it up, you know, a little warm water and some dawn soap. If dawn soap can get tar off a baby duck, it can get a little, you know, acrylic paint off of a tile floor. And that's just, you know, that's that. That tale as old as time, as they say. So I've just been doing a lot of that, and I. There's just so many things to do. I just think that the painting part is the part that's gonna be the most, like, labor intensive, because the next kind of step is, like, I'm waiting for deliveries of, like, furniture and things to come. I got all the cabinets, and I've been filming a lot of stuff, so you might start to see, like, me kind of announcing, like, I'm opening a medical spa, right? Does you do. Does you even care? That's me talking right now. I don't even know if anybody cares. I care. Hey, I'm trying to live the American dream. I start crying. It's like, actually a wholesome moment of the show. For once, I want to talk about something else. And I'm like, I want to turn. Like, I just don't want this to become like a. How dare it become a business podcast, right? What if you're not interested in business? I want. I want this to appeal to everyone. Right? I had somebody who did write in and said, could you just not get political? Which is a crazy thing to write to me. And, you know, to those people, I want to say something, and it is, no, no, I can't not so, you know, come at me with a different question. Okay, so now let's move along. We're moving along from there because obviously, you know, I'm talking about Pam Bondi eventually being the checkout girl at a Lowe's. God willing, Betsy deboss on the board. Okay, let's. We got. We gotta move on. Move on, move on, move on. Move, move, move, move, move. Out, out, out. We're getting out of med spa territory, and I want to talk about something that's not political, and I want to talk about something that is serious to me, something that I love. And I actually, you know what I keep saying I'm gonna do this, that. Because, like, I just. I like, ramble on and on, especially when we do these solo episodes when we. It is truly just again, me after hours. So I'm gonna mix in. I'm gonna. I'm putting a pin in what I want to talk about because it's so important. It's, like, vital that I talk about it. And I wanted to get to a text message. Okay? So we're going to turn the page. And by that turning of page, I mean we're going to, like, open up the text messages. And this one, I'm going to need my glasses for this. Sorry, sorry everybody. I was also doing research. I'm putting the glasses on right now. I was doing a little research and I'm like, should I have gotten different man made lenses when I got the cataract surgery? Because it's the low light that bothers me. I don't know. I guess we'll never know. One day I'll. Maybe I'll just get it again for the fucking hell of it. All right. Text message. Hi, Adam. I'm just assuming it's in that pitch. Hi Adam. My 16 year old son recently came out to me as gay and I couldn't be more proud of him. His friends and their parents all know and have been wonderfully supportive. He hasn't told my husband yet though, and I've been carrying this for a few weeks now. I think he told me because he went to homecoming with a girlfriend and wanted to make sure I knew they were just going as friends, which opened the door for him to share. I'm a thousand percent. I'm a thousand percent support. I don't know what I read, but I did not read that as it was written. Let me continue. I'm a thousand percent supportive and I just want him to feel loved, safe and happy. I. I also know my husband will be just as supportive when the time comes. My question is, is there anything I can do to help my son with this process? I've been trying to give him time and space, but I've also gently reminded him that it's getting harder for me to keep this a secret. Also, with so many people knowing, he really needs to be the one to talk to his dad before he somehow finds out from someone else or realizes he was the last to know. Any advice on how to best support him and maybe navigate this balance between patience and honesty would mean a lot. I absolutely love the podcast. Your intrusive thoughts are just my favorite. Thanks for bringing light and laughter into my day. Honestly, my pleasure. So can you do anything? I think this is the tough answer that maybe you kind of know, but maybe you don't really want to hear. And I think the answer is no, you can't really do anything. I think you've already done everything that you're supposed to do, right? Like he's told you, he shared this with you. He felt comfortable to do that and it can just feel like weird and uncomfortable and like when I came out to my parents, like we're talking like, I don't know, 12 or 13, almost 15 years ago. So like times were Different. But I did feel the need to, like, I needed to tell them, but there was also a part of me of, like, do I need to tell them, or should I just, like, start living and they'll figure it out? You know? But I, I. It was important to me to say something, and it. I think it's obviously important to your son that he say something. Otherwise, he wouldn't have, you know, made it a point to tell you. He would have just. If he didn't think that it was important to tell you, he would have just sort of, like, said he was going with his friend and been like, oh, we're just friends, like, whatever. He would have dropped it, and then, like, life would have gone on and, you know, whatever. But he obviously wanted to make a point of saying something to you. And I think because he was honest with you, and he's surrounded by people who are incredibly supportive of him because he's been honest with you. I think you can be honest with him, and I think that you can say to him that you want to respect that this is his thing and that, like, it's his secret, but you have to be honest with him and let him know that, like, his dad is gonna find out. And I think that it would mean a lot to his dad, to your husband, if he told him rather than him finding out from someone else. And I think you could even kind of hit home that, like, it meant a lot to you that he said something to you, and that's why you think it would mean a lot to your husband. And you can imagine that if you found out through someone else and knew that your husband knew, like, would make you feel like, oh, maybe you don't trust me, or did I do something to make you not feel that? And you can reassure your son that, like, you know, everything's gonna be okay. But I think it would really mean a lot to your dad if you shared this with him. And I think because he was honest with you, you can be honest with him in this respect. And I, you know, I don't know if everybody's going to share the same opinion that I have, but I do think that you can push your son in this direction because he's kind of. Now, I don't know if he told you. Like, I want it to be a secret, but he's kind of, like, now it feels like if he's, like, let it go. And if you're sure that your husband is, like, he's not going to have any, like, adverse reaction to this, it does Kind of sound like he is gonna just like life kind of go by and be like, hey, I'd like you to meet my boyfriend all of a sudden. And it's like, wait, you never told me you were. You know, you never. I never got the, like, I'm gay talk or whatever. I think if you let your son know that it would mean a lot to your husband and it would bring them closer. Obviously it would. Then your son might feel that urgency to. Instead of like just letting the time go by and letting everybody figure it out. And I also think that if he told you, he does want to tell the dad. And. And by the dad, I mean his dad and your husband. So I think that this is just something that you be honest with him. That's what I'm gonna say. Okay. I'm like, okay, get off my back. That's not what I mean. But I. You get it, right? We get it. We. We both get it. You, me, your husband, your son. Congrats on gay son. That's great. That is really good. And to girlfriend who's just friend. Good for her, too. Yeah. So now I'm gonna get back to what I was going to say. I've always said that I would start with like a little monologue in the opening, and then we'd get to a text message, and then I'd get back into something instead of just like, you know, trauma dumping in the beginning, and then it. It kind of going nowhere. And then we get to voicemails. I'm trying to find a nice cadence to this show. Okay. We're growing and we're learning, right? We're learning, growing, all of it. So now remember, if not just a few minutes ago, I said, put a pin in it. It's time to go and address the pin that I put in it. And it's this. So if you've been to the Home Depot recently or to your local grocery store, you will know exactly what I'm talking about. And it's at the checkout section of these stores. I'm taking lip glasses off now because it's going to overheat me what I'm about to tell you. Oh, actually, hold on. Pin in it one more time. We need to have a conversation of. I think I want to be like a Red Bull drinker. Like, have a. I'm. I'm going to tell you something so insane. I'm. I really need you to bear with me. I was watching a video, and it was somebody being like, I just opened up the store. Like, they Were opening up a store, like, doing the opening shift of something. And they were like, I just opened up the store. Everything's all ready to go. I'm sitting here and I'm enjoying my Red Bull before we get going. And something in the way that they said, I'm enjoying my Red Bull before we get going changed everything for me. It changed everything because I just have not been able to stop thinking about, like, I. I want to enjoy my Red Bull before I get going. 2. Don't I deserve that? Don't I deserve to give you wings? Red Bull gives you wings. Don't I deserve that in the morning before I get going? And so I do think I'm going to make a crazy Costco purchase because I don't do this, you know, half heartedly. I'm not going to your local Kroger and getting a four pack. I think I'm gonna get, you know, 30 cans sugar free Red Bull. I'm not taking all those calories. Sugar free Red Ball. Also, this, me saying this coming hot off the tails of the dietitian episode where she's like, artificial sugar will give you farts and diarrhea. I am sorry, Kim. I can't wait to have her on again. We'll see. We'll just see. Kind of see how my artificial sugar intake is going. I'm an artificial sugar guy, by the way, I'm fixing my hair episode is going great, by the way. Really? One for the books. Yeah. So I think I'm just gonna start drinking Red Bull. I haven't started yet, but I'll tell you. Well, I kind of have started because every time I go to Home Depot, which is now daily, I'm getting a Red Bull at the checkout counter. And this is not what I'm talking about. What I was gonna talk about. Okay, let's go back to what I was gonna talk about. And it's this. Ahem. If you've been to the checkout counter of your local grocery store or hardware store, you'll notice that there are these lollipops and they are the size of a golf ball. And they're. I can't remember the exact brand, but they're like the gourmet lollipop or the original gourmet whatever, you know, and the very famous flavor is bubble gum and then cotton candy. And to be honest, because I have tried every single flavor. They all taste exactly like each flavor. Like every flavor does just taste like bubble gum. No matter the color. It doesn't matter. They have not figured out like, you know, the original gourmet, like, they're still using the same one recipe. Okay. So I just. There was some, like, crazy sale. I can't believe I'm saying this about these lollipops, but there was this crazy sale where it was like, usually they're like $2 a piece or like a 199 sort of situation, but it was like, two for a dollar. It's like a half price. So I'm like, I'm gonna get a bunch. And I've gotten a bunch, and I'm about to yawn. I need the Red Bull. This is after hours, like I said. Okay. So I was getting a bunch of them, wanted to try all the flavors, and I'm like, I like these, but, like, the golf ball size of it is just too big because you. I like to put the whole thing in my mouth. Sorry. I'm an adult. Like, I want. I'm not gonna, like, like, lick it, lick it, lick it. Okay. Like, I'm gonna, like. So sorry about that. But you know what I mean? I'm not gonna just sit there like, delicious lollipop. I don't. You know, I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna, like, oh, put the whole thing in. All right. Relax, relax. And I decided, you know, where you go when you want to figure out, like, a community of people coming together to discuss a topic that you, like, are interested in. And that place for me is like, Reddit. Like, you can search for anything on Reddit. And I searched best lollipop, Reddit, and obviously there was a fucking forum for it. And so I went in, the people on Reddit they were talking about, and I cannot remember the name for the life of me. And I'm not gonna look it up. Stay tuned. You're gonna have to. You're gonna have to listen to another episode of Intrusive Thoughts because this is a cliffhanger, right? Okay. They've. There was a lot of talk and commotion about this other brand of lollipop that they said, oh, no, this is the superior lollipop. This is the best one. And the flavors are all different. Like, it's amazing. It's so good. And I said, you know what? Let me try this, because I think now I'm like a lollipop guy, right? So I go on Amazon, click clack, click clack on the keyboard. I find them in the cart. They can be here by 4am the next day. Oh, yeah, I'm hitting purchase now. So I do. They get here the next day. 4am on the dot. The Google cam notification. I get it. I didn't need them at foreign. It was just like, you've qualified. I just did what they said to do. Okay. I'm just. Whatever. So I do it. They come the next morning, and that night I decide it's time for me to treat myself. And I start the lollipop. And instead of a giant circle, it's like, basically, now it's the size of a waffle. Like, it's still too big, but I can fit the whole thing in my mouth, you know? But it's less that that ball gagging kind of look like if the. If the original gourmet lollipop was making them at half size or even at three quarter, like, that would just. That would do it for me. That would be right. Correct. And they're not. So that's why I had to kind of outsource look for a different one, one for a better variety of flavor. So what I ordered was. I guess it was some, like, sour medley. I didn't. I don't know. I wasn't trying to do. I was trying to do sweet, not sour, whatever. I love sour candy, though. So I'm not, like, complaining at all in the slightest. I don't want you to think I'm complaining, but I get this sour lollipop. I start licking it again. The whole thing in my mouth, like, it looks like a floppy disk that I shove into, like, my throat. Oh, put the whole thing in. And I'm loving it. I'm loving it. It tastes so good. And my husband tries one. He's like, I don't really like it. I said, I'll finish it. Like, I will finish that one. It's delicious. So I'm having these lollipops, and they're just kind of like sitting perfectly in the palette of my mouth, like, the roof of my mouth. Like, if you were to get a palate expander, instead of doing that, you could just use this lollipop. It would, like, you'd have the widest smile you've ever seen. So it is resting sort of not like at the molars area of my upper teeth, but, like, in that middle area. I don't know where, like, the molars start. Okay. Like, maybe it's just like as soon as we get past, like, the vampire ones, then it's molars. I don't know. But it's like we're back there. And so that sometimes for the majority of the time, like I said, it's a floppy disk that I'm putting in there. You know, it's like Windows 98 style right into my mouth. Palette expander. And I am on the second lollipop. I'm having two of them finishing my husband's. He had two looks, you know, two looks. He was done. So I'm having basically two full ones of these. And this is important because there's, like, a moment where I go, ow. Ugh. What is that? Ouch. My tooth, like, where the lollipop was sitting, now feels, like, sensitive in a way that, like, I. I don't have any, like, tooth sensitivity. And I'm like, it's okay. So, you know, it's. It's now nighttime. I go. I brush my teeth. I diligently floss. You know, you got to floss, right? So I do. I floss, cocoa floss, and then I use my Sonicare toothbrush. I'm not name dropping for any specific reason. I'm just like. I want you to really see the picture clearly, that I'm using, like, reputable tools to clean my teeth. And then I put my, like, Invisalign retainer trays in. I wake up in the morning, and my teeth are, like, so sensitive. More sensitive than, like, they have ever been to, like, anything after I've had these two lollipops and I had those lollipops. I think it's. We're almost two weeks. I had them almost two weeks ago, and my teeth are only just now. Am I not getting a piercing headache when I put my toothbrush over the spot where this lollipop was? As I'm saying this, do I need to go to the dentist? Please say no. I want. I also want it, like, on the. I want it on the record. I like going to the dentist. And I usually go every five months, four or five months. I'm a diligent dentist goer. And so I think. I just. I think I haven't been in about six, maybe seven months, because I remember I had an appointment, I had to move it back, and I got those lollipops, and now they're gonna have to extract some teeth. But, yeah, all of a sudden, I'm telling you, like, all of a sudden, it's just, like, hot, cold. I'm like, ah. Like, I've never had tooth sensitivity. And so I do think, you know, after all that name dropping, I do have to figure out the name of the lollipops. And I have to warn you to never get them because I. This is crazy. I didn't have Anything before it just. This is craziness. I'm glad I got that off of my chest. You know, a Red Bull would be delicious, though, wouldn't it? I know Red Bull isn't, like, for everybody. I was. For a minute, I didn't know that Celsius was, like, an energy drink. I thought it was some sort of, like, V8 splash. It's not. And so I did, like, order, not order. I bought, like, a full palette of them at Costco and was like, you know, having heart arrhythmia from them and was like, how is this? What's going on? I was like, anxiety out of the wazoo. And then I was like, oh, okay. It's like the Celsius is making my heart beat fast. Red Bull doesn't do that. And I just, like, love the taste of it. I know. That's crazy. I know, I know, I know. Here's the next text message. You're going to love this one. Chat with me on WhatsApp. It lets us message privately on iPhone and Android and more. This invite expires soon. Gotta love sometimes the spam messages do. They really do, like, make me laugh the most. Putting the glasses back on. Because we're gonna read a good one, I think. Yeah, let's look. Okay. I haven't read any of these, by the way. I'm, like, doing this blind. I'm doing it with glasses now, but you get it. You get what I'm saying. Hi, Adam. Again. It's just. That's the tone. Hi, Adam. I just want to say how much I love your podcast and stop the quote. Love you back. Truly, I do. My job has become extra stressful these days, and listening to your show as I get ready and drive to work puts me in such a great headspace for the day. I also feel like we share a lot of idiosyncrasies. I know this has been a long text, and I should probably just talk about this in therapy, but I do need your advice. I got my hair highlighted this past week, and while it looks good, it's not exactly what I asked for. I love my stylist, but she never gives enough time to consult, review my inspo photos, and talk through what I want. Should I politely ask her to do some tweaks? Do I offer to pay for another partial, or do I ask for a free service? I hate confrontation, but it's expensive. Thanks. Oh, God, I'm gonna give somebody glasses off. I'm going to tell you something you don't want to hear, and It's. You might be comfortable with your stylist, but you're not happy with them. And ain't that the truth, right? And the confrontation you really don't want to have is that you don't want to see them anymore. Because I'm just like you. I'm a people pleaser. Somebody will give me, like, the ugliest hairstyle or whatever. I'll go, I love it. Oh, my God. And I'll tip them well, and then I'll get into the car and I'll go, I hate it. I look like the Hunchback of Notre Dame. I look a fool. I look a mess. I'm the village idiot. And I just couldn't tell the stylist that. And I do think this. It sounds like if you're willing to say, where is it? I. If you're willing to admit that you love them, but they never give enough time to consult or review the photos, I think that that's a pattern, right? So unless you are confrontational, you're gonna have to go, hey, can we really sit down and look at this? Which I wouldn't want to do. Oh, honey, I'd rather head for the fucking hills than do that in somebody's place of work. But you have this amazing opportunity to find a new stylist. So I think this is what you do because it's expensive, it's not cheap, right? And it sounds like you want to do something nice for yourself. You either need to be a bit confrontational with the stylist, which I think that you don't want to do, because you think it might, like, fluff, you know, some feathers and ruffle some feathers. Not fluff. It might ruffle some feathers. And I think, you know, you're thinking it. You're thinking exactly in the same way that I completely get it. So I'm. I'm. I'm spelling this out for maybe a listener who's like, well, why don't you just tell them? Right? Like, it's not that easy, you guys. Then it's hard, right? You don't want them. You want them to still see you as this, like, I'm always happy. I love it. Like, we're all in positive vibes. Just, like. It's just the vibes are great, the hair is great, and you don't want to now be this, like, complainy client that they have. And I get that. Like, I don't want to be that. So if you feel like it. This is never going the way that I like, but I Like them, I think. Here's the deal. I think that they might be a good person, but you don't like going to them because you know that they're not gonna do a good job. They're not listening to you. And if you want this stylist to listen to you, you've got to have a hard conversation. You've got to have, like, a bit of a confrontational conversation with them, and you've got to kind of correct them and say, hey, I just. I don't think that you're looking at these pictures. This is not what I want. I'd really like you to fix this. Right. Like, I also feel like maybe you feel like they wouldn't be open to that. I'll tell you what I'll do. And whether this is good, right or wrong, I'd be like, go to that salon again, so sorry. I'm so sorry. Am I, like, so terrible? I don't think so. I think, like, I. If I fig, I'd figure it out. Like, we're never like. We are. We have a good time, and that can be my emergency stylist, but we're never getting to where I want to go, so I'm gonna leave. That's how I would treat that, you know? And I say this, like, based on, like, experience that I've had of, like, believe me, I've never been, like, you know what? I'm never coming back. It's always been like, life has taken over, and I just, like, had to start going to a different place to, like, get my hair cut or something. And then it'll be like, oh, wait, this is a thousand times better. Why didn't I just go here? Right? Because you deserve that, right? Especially, like, if your work is stressful, you at least should have the proper highlights, right? Like, we can't control so many things in life. We should be able to control, like, how our highlights look when we're paying for them. So I. I think if you're feeling, like, gutsy and ballsy enough to, like, ask for free service, like, by all means. I'm just telling you, like, what I would do, and I'd be like. Like, if they're texting you, like, it's time to rebook, I'd be like, I'm so busy, and I would kind of leave out the part like, I'm busy booking an appointment somewhere else. I'm just telling you. I'm being honest. Okay? I'm being, like, dead serious about what I would do. Okay. Sorry. I'm really Sorry. I'm sorry. Because maybe that's like the equivalent of ghosting, but, like, you know, also, it's a service. You're paying for a service. I don't know. You know, that's. I'm just telling you what I would do. Okay. All right, we're moving on. Let's see. We have. Let's do it. One more text message. And this one is hot. Take. Hoda is going to check a bag, but she wanted the affiliate link. Molly. Affiliate link. Money from all the other poor people who can't check a bag to buy that bag. Okay, like, this is in reference to a few episodes ago I was talking about. Hoda Codby had this. It looked like one of those, like, as seen on the Today show bags where it's. It's a garment bag that zips up into a duffel bag and you can shove your shoes in it like it's a piece of junk, right? Like, it looked like that. No offense, Hoda. None taken. She says. She whispers in my ear telepathically. It just looked like one of those junkie bags. Like, I can smell it from here, right? Like, you know, it smells like plastic. She even couldn't get it zipped right on. Whatever. And it's like one of those amazing bags. Save your. I'm telling you right now, save your money. Buy something real. Sorry. Once you lose the sensitivity of the mo. Of your, like, back molars, you just don't give a shit anymore. You just call it like it is. You say, hey, I gotta be real. I really gotta be real with you. Gotta be real with you. And I'm being real. Yeah. And I just like, is she getting affiliate money? If you're Hoda Codbi, multi millionaire Hoda Codbee, and you're trying to get, like, compensated selling shit bags on Amazon, that's crazy. It's a recession indicator. So. And there was no link. She was. I think she genuinely likes. And I say this with, like, so much love. I just genuinely think Hoda likes things. Some things that are junk. Do you. But you. You know what I mean, right? Like, there are people I know who. They won't buy junk, and they have a lot less money than Hoda. Well, how about me, for example? I'm not gonna buy junk. I'm not gonna buy something that has, like, a faulty zipper or that's, like, fraying at the edges. I'm just. I'm not gonna do that. And I'm gonna be hard pressed to buy some, like, discount suitcase at a Marshalls because I'm. I think it's gonna fall apart. And usually I'm right, okay. So I'm not gonna do that. But Hoda does strike me as someone who is of a generation where she is, like, bewildered by the bells and whistles and pockets and zippers of a product. But when I see that, I'm like, well, just make one zipper correctly, and we wouldn't need 50 zipper. Like, I. I just don't. I don't think it. You can just bring a duffel bag. Right? Like, even when you put things in a garment bag, they come out wrinkled, so you're gonna have to iron it anyway. Yeah. I believe she's also checking it back. Okay, but. And I say this, and I'm just, like, begging you. Like, I mean this in. In a good way that she just strikes me as somebody who sometimes likes to buy junk. I don't. And that's, like. That's why she has the wherewithal to be, like, on morning television. And I might not. I'm more of a Kathie Lee. However she snuck into morning television is. If I were to ever do it is. It'd be along the same lines, because I'm not going, oh, my God, it's amazing. I love this plastic bracelet. Like, I don't like that plastic bracelet. And I don't like the plastic junk bag that you're. That you can't even zip correctly on Instagram. Look it up. Everybody look up this bag. And I love me some Hoda. COD B. One of the best people in the entire world. One of the best people. I mean that from the bottom of my heart. Okay, actually, before we go, we do have to address. And I think it's just. It's timely. It's right. The life of a showgirl. This is truly a excellent way to close the show. Life of a showgirl. So before I start, I am. I consider myself, like, Swifty. I think that Folklore and Evermore are two of my favorite albums. They remind me of a. They bring me right back to a time. I think that they're just, like, expertly, brilliantly put together and written, and they're just. I think it's Taylor Swift's best work. I think it's. I think 1989 made me a Swiftie. Folklore and Evermore made me like, okay, this girl is amazing. And I've. Obviously, I've met her before. I was in her music video of you need to calm down. And I think she's incredibly kind, and I remember the way that she treated and Everybody on that. On that set. And I just. It made a big impression on me. But I'm going to be honest with the life of a showgirl. When I listen to it for the first time, the beats are like. This is what she does brilliantly of, like, the beats of the music are, like, hypnotic. So I'm not listening to the lyrics, but I'm hearing the beats and I'm going, stuck in my head. She's got me. Swift has got me again. And then I listen to the lyrics and I go, huh? What? Right. Not for everyone. Like, Fate of Ophelia. Love that. That's the first song on the album. Like, because when I woke up the morning that the album was released and I saw the way that people were talking about it online, it was like, you were act. People were acting like. She had just sang, like, the full Richard Scarry's Busy Town to, like, the a beat of music. And it was just like, she's singing the Bernstein Bears books. Like, it was just like. It had to be so awful. And so I put it on, and I'm listening. I'm like, it just. It sounds good. I don't know what. What people are upset about. But then I listened to it, like, a bit more, and there's just, like, a few. There's three songs that, like, rub me the wrong way. And listen, Taylor Swift has said that she's not the art. Listen, I still get, like, a press packet. Hold on. Over here. Wait one second. These are the life of a showgirl shorts, right? I say this with all the love in my heart. I say this like I'm about to take her the hell down. I'm not. I'm giving my opinion. Because what I was going to say was, Taylor Swift says she's not the art police. Right? Like, just talking about it is. Whatever. It's not personal. It's drag. Here we go. I'm gonna say this. Three songs that I'm like, I do not like a Wood. I don't like that one at all. So sorry. I love the. You better on wood. That's clever. Cute. I just like the getting dicked down of it all. Like, good. I'm, like, happy for her. And I think that's, like, amazing. But I am, like, you're 36. We're both 1989. Like, okay, right? That's. I feel like that's something that, like, my friends, like, when I was in my 20s, right. Like, I think that's something that they would say, but I'm like, okay. So I'M that's like, the least of my worries. Then the next of my worries is that everything's romantic. And I think we've all deduced and by say we all is. I've obviously just read on Twitter that this one is about Charlie xcx. And you know what? I've heard this from two different angles. And the one angle is like, why are you punching down? You're obviously more famous and you bigger numbers, more successful, richer. All of this stuff more than Charlie xcx, why are you punching down? And the other side of this is, you know, you're still a human being. She's still a human being, so she's just never allowed to have an opinion on somebody else treating her a way that she doesn't want to be treated. And I see that this, like, argument from both sides. But I think that, you know, when Taylor references this song that Charlie XCX has and it's like, what is it? Sympathy with a Knife or something? I don't know. Listen, I'm not like a connoisseur, but she talks about, like, it's a very, like, raw and personal account of how she feels in the music business, how Charlie XCX feels, and she talks really about, like, her insecurities, and it's a very, like, interesting song. Okay. And I think that when Taylor Swift references this song and like, different things that she's gone through with Charlie xcx, it feels like Taylor's totally missed the point. And it feels like, now, come on, girl. Like, that's not what she said. And you can still be annoyed, but it's also weird that you're being annoyed because who, like, you have a billion dollars. So, like, you're. You're still going to be like, the queen of the castle, queen of the world, the. One of the most famous people in the entire world. And it's like. And you're still going to be mad. Like you're. You find the need to talk this way about, like, it feels so. I feel like it's weird. Sorry. I just feel like it's really odd and, And. And sad kind. Like it's kind of. And you know, and you know what? It's like her art. Maybe she's. Maybe she's talked to Charlie about it or whatever. Like, we don't know. But this is my opinion, okay? This is my podcast. And so that's just my opinion of it. And I just, I. I come away with it, like, feeling sorry that Taylor wasn't able to hear the song or hear the things that Charlie was. And who knows, maybe Charlie is like, she. She's a like behind her back. Okay? But if she is, it's like you have a billion dollars and Charlie XCX has one album that people think is popular and a pack cigarettes. So just like kind of let her do her thing, right? Like, I've known about Charlie XCX for a long time, but I feel like she's just gotten to like the real zeitgeist of pop culture. And I think that she has like some really interesting things to say. And that Taylor Swift's opinion of like one of the first times, like a big massive audience is listening to Charli xcx, like one of those songs, and she's just like, oh, so you said you can't stand me? And it's like, no, that's like, that was not the point of that song at all. Like, did you really miss the point of that? So just that one makes me disappointed. It just makes me like disappointed because there. If you're annoyed at somebody. Not that I'm a professional songwriter. I just think that there's a different way of her going about like. Of her going about this where she. Instead of like, it. It just really feels like. I don't know, it just. It could have been a deeper take on like how even though she is at the top, like a self reflection, she still can be bothered by the things people say and it still bothers her. And, and. And she could have written a song about like that. Do you know what I'm saying? Listen, if you don't agree with me, I don't give a. Whatever I. Whatever. My teeth still fucking hurt. Every time I breathe in, I can feel like my back teeth burning. And the last song, I hate this one. The canceled Good thing I like my friends canceled. I'm like, who do you know that's canceled? You have a billion dollars. And like I said, I like the girl a lot. But we're all allowed to have like an opinion on the art, right? This has nothing to do with the artist, but it's like we're allowed to have an opinion on the art. And that's my opinion. And my other opinion is that like, I don't understand how any of it ties into being a showgirl. Except for the very last song doesn't really make sense. Except for the fact like, she's gorgeous. She's a beautiful girl and looks incredible in, you know, those headdresses and the gowns and everything. Like she looks gorgeous gowns. She Looks amazing. She looks like a showgirl. But then you have a billion dollars. You have $1 billion. One billion. And listen, I just want to say that, like, I think that she's a very lovely girl. Like, she was so nice when I met her. She was so nice and so personable and like I said, the way she treated everybody. So this is like not a reflection of her. Relax. Because I'll also tell you some of the Swifty people who are out there. I've gotten some of the nastiest message from Swifties. Nastiest because they thought I may have said something not nice or something. Which wasn't true, by the way. I had somebody send me a picture of their own diarrhea in a toilet. Rewind that and hear it back. Their own diarrhea in the toilet. And they said, that's what I think of you. Okay? Yeah. So fix it. Fix that for me. And fix my teeth for me. Oh, mommy, my teeth really do hurt. What should I talk about next? Nothing. I think that's it. That's it for this episode of Intrusive Thoughts. Oh, actually, I'm gonna save this for the next episode that I do. But I'm gonna tell you about what I'm gonna do. Okay. I'm about to be like a fucking idiot and be like. I'm gonna tell you about what I'm gonna do in the next episode. I'm doing something fun tomorrow that I'm going to tell you about and I'm really looking forward to it. I think it'll be a lot of fun. Okay. Dot, dot, dot. That being said, is there anything else that I really needed to talk about? Because I want you to know I took. Sometimes when I prepare to like do this on my own, I'll have like a few things like, written out. I had nothing written out because I'm like truly in a daze today. I am. So I'm telling you I'm doing like 12 hour days at the medical spa and then I'm coming home and I'm doing like a bunch of other work and then I'm running around town trying to do a bunch of other stuff too. So it's like I. Listen, I'm not one to get my sleep score, but if I were, I have. I'm getting a failing grade, which is why I'm like craving the juice. And by that I mean a sugar free Red Bull, which I will treat myself to tomorrow morning. And what I wish you would treat me to is another voicemail, another text message. I love getting them. These are great questions. These are great takes. I love you all so much. I love you all so dearly. And I can't wait to see you next week here on Intrusive Thoughts. If you would like to leave me one of your intrusive thoughts, I would love to hear that. I would love. I would love to. Good night, everybody. Trapdoor I fall through? No, I would really love that. If you would reach out. We have a phone number, you know, that's how it works. That's how a Hotline Works. It's 310-909-9717. Now, if you're not sitting here with pen to paper, ready to write it down, if you go to my Instagram at a rip rip on Instagram, you can. If you hit the call button in my bio, it'll get you right to that number. But if you ever call. I had a listener write in. And this is a brilliant thing. Why don't you add your. This number to your phone book? Okay? 310-909-9717. And every time you have an intrusive thought, text us, right? Just text us. See what happens. Let's get those intrusive thoughts on the air waves. And until next time, I'm Adam Rippon. These have been my intrusive thoughts. Oh, I. I'm gonna say that again. That's a really good thing. See, we learn and we grow. Okay, I'm Adam Rippon. These have been my intrusive thoughts. And I'll see you here next week. Bye, everybody. Yeah, that's the end. Bye, everyone. Thanks so much, Sam.
Date: October 23, 2025
Host: Adam Rippon
In this “After Hours” solo episode, Adam Rippon brings listeners a candid, late-night ramble delving into his current chaos: renovating a new med spa, the existential saga of home improvement stores, sudden Red Bull aspirations, questionable lollipops, advice for listeners on coming out and dealing with sub-par hairstylists, and a surprisingly hot take on Taylor Swift’s new album. Hilarious, honest, and as always, a little all over the place, Adam’s charm and unfiltered commentary make even a monologue about lollipops addictive listening.
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Adam’s tone is irreverent, warm, and self-deprecating; every story is both a confession and an invitation to laugh. He toggles easily between advice columnist, pop culture commentator, and chaotic best friend. “After Hours” brings more tangents, more vulnerability, and more humor—a leisurely listen that feels like a call with the funniest friend you have.
Adam teases an upcoming fun adventure—details to come in the next After Hours. Listeners are encouraged to submit their intrusive thoughts via call or text for future episodes.
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