The Last Dinner & Katie Keurig

Summary

Podcast Summary: Intrusive Thoughts by Adam Rippon

Episode: "The Last Dinner & Katie Keurig"

Date: April 9, 2026
Hosts: Adam Rippon (B), Ashley Wagner (C)

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Episode Overview

This special crossover episode brings together Adam Rippon and Ashley Wagner, co-hosts of "The Run Through" (with a mention of Sarah Hughes), for a lively, irreverent, and highly comedic discussion. The episode dives into hilarious recountings of religious lore (specifically, Ashley attempts to reconstruct the Easter story from memory), experiences with internet trolls, commentary on skating fandom, a deep dive into being hacked by a fake "Katie Couric" (aka "Katie Keurig"), and an ongoing theme of friendship, betrayal, and resilience against online negativity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Skin Care Struggles & Chemical Peels

[01:08–07:15]

• Adam starts by sharing his post-chemical peel face status:
  • "It feels like magic shell. You know, magic shell ice cream." (B, 03:10)
  • Ashley relates, mentioning “the world's biggest zit” on her chin.
• Deep dive into treatments: Adam vouches for a sulfur-based spot treatment for cystic pimples, reminiscing about the “Mario Badescu spot treatment.”
  • “You know, the ones you can just, you feel that they're closer to the bone than they are closer to the, like, outer ring.” (B, 07:19)
• Tone: Vulnerable, self-deprecating, and funny—the duo bond over “Satan skin care” and the petty cruelties of skin.

2. Social Media Backlash and Comments Section Drama

[08:16–09:41]

• Ashley vents about harsh online criticisms directed at them, branding them as “brats (without the Z)” and, more extremely, “I’ve been told to kill myself before. This is nothing new to me.” (C, 09:23)
• The conversation about internet bravado transitions into themes of betrayal—setting the stage for their next topic.

3. Figure Skating, Religion, and Camp

[09:42–14:24]

• Discussion of how religious themes recur in figure skating programs; Ashley quips, “Religion is camp. I'm sorry, you can't convince me otherwise.” (C, 10:45)
• Adam reflects on how many skaters skate to religious music for drama, not faith.

4. Explaining the Easter Story, "Drunk History" Style

[14:25–39:34]

• Adam asks Ashley (self-declared "learned doctor" but not religiously educated) to recount the Easter story—from Passover to resurrection.
• Key Takeaways:
  • Ashley’s version: “Is that the one where he and his Judy’s are hanging out and he gets betrayed?” (C, 15:25)
  • Adam gently coaches, filling in details about the Last Supper, Judas, Peter, and the events leading to Jesus’s crucifixion and resurrection.
  • Dialogue is playful, irreverent, and awkwardly accurate—Ashley refers to the apostles as “his Judy’s,” coins “the last dinner,” and rails against having “too many friends.”
• Notable moment: Adam connects religious betrayal (by Peter and Judas) to friendship boundaries and online drama.
  • “This all kind of comes back down to your insecurities of opening up to other people.” (B, 40:50)
• Valuable explainer: Adam succinctly runs through Holy Week milestones—Holy Thursday (Last Supper), Good Friday (crucifixion), Easter Sunday (resurrection), correcting Ashley's mixture of facts and speculation.
  • “You did a great... You had a lot of the pieces. I just feel like you didn't know exactly where they belonged.” (B, 41:30)

5. Skating Medals: Are They Really Precious Metals?

[42:00–44:38]

• Listener question: Are silver/bronze/gold medals actually made from those metals?
• Adam, expert in “gems and raw minerals,” explains most competition medals are merely plated, not solid metals.
  • “The Olympic ones have a coating of whatever metal that they're supposed to be like.” (B, 44:02)
• Skate America medals, Ashley jokes, might be “plastic...with BPA in it.” (C, 44:25)

6. Adam’s Epic Hacking Scandal: The "Katie Keurig" Saga

[45:05–58:13]

• Adam reveals he was scammed via an email inviting him to a Facebook Live podcast with "Katie Couric." The scammer (with a thick accent) actually called themselves “Katie Keurig.”
• He gave the scammer admin access to his decade-old Facebook page, only realizing too late.
  • “Adam, you always fall for scams that are geared towards 60 year old white women.” (C, 49:24)
• The hackers then started posting prolifically on his Facebook—AI-generated content, "father-daughter goals," and recycled clips.
  • “They're doing more social media work for me than I've done in the last 15 years.” (B, 52:06)
• Adam attempts to reclaim the account, but is “banned,” marvels at the wild captions (hashtags #ItalianVibes, etc.), and muses about collaborating with the scammers “just to get Katie’s attention.”
• Layered throughout: reflections on internet security and the humor of being a "boomer" with social media.

7. Miscellaneous Moments of Joy & Absurdity

• Ashley and Adam marvel at how language evolves in queer subcultures—debating the meaning of “mog off” (model off).
• They riff on an SNL sketch about botched religious art, sustaining their theme of camp and parody.
• Ending: return to figure skating, promises of the upcoming Rosie Awards (live event), musings on friendship, and a lighthearted, affectionate send-off.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Religious Camp:
  “Religion is camp. I'm sorry, you can't convince me otherwise.” (C, 10:45)

• On Betrayal & Friendship:
  “ When you have too many friends, this is what happens.” (C, 31:16)

• Ashley Tries to Recount the Apostles:
  “I do feel like you really can't keep tabs on that many people...” (C, 16:27)

• On Online Negativity:
  "We're fighting for our fucking lives in the comment section right now." (C, 04:32)
  "I've been told to kill myself before. This is nothing new to me." (C, 09:23)

• On Being Scammed:
  "You always fall for scams that are geared towards 60 year old white women." (C, 49:24)
  "They're doing more social media work for me than I've done in the last 15 years." (B, 52:06)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:08 – Ashley joins, introductions, and context for crossover.
• 02:02 – Adam confesses to recent chemical peel.
• 03:38 – Ashley describes her "world's biggest zit."
• 08:16 – Discussion about fighting negativity in comments.
• 10:45 – Declaration: "Religion is camp."
• 14:25–39:34 – "Drunk History"-style recounting of Easter.
• 44:00 – Are medals actual precious metals?
• 45:05 – Adam’s Facebook hacking by "Katie Keurig."
• 52:17 – Realizing the hackers’ AI-generated content is prolific.
• 61:16 – Reflection on humor in SNL, art, and self-parody.
• 63:23 – Details for the live “Rosie Awards” recording.
• 64:56 – Plans for future content, outro, and appreciation for listeners.

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Tone and Dynamic

• Language: Loosely structured, conversational, brash but warm; irreverent about religion and internet conventions.
• Dynamic: Real-life best friends ribbing each other, sharing personal failures, celebrating inside jokes, and inviting listeners to join in on the (very Gen-Z, queer, and camp) fun.
• Vibe: Open, honest, and fearless—mockery is always good-natured, never cruel. Lots of call-backs to figure skating culture and internet meme language.

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For New Listeners

This episode is an accessible, hilarious window into the chemistry between Adam Rippon and Ashley Wagner—two icons in skating who are not afraid to share their unvarnished thoughts on everything from chemical peels to the Resurrection. You’ll leave entertained, (possibly) more informed about Christian mythology, and with new respect for the perils of the Facebook comment section and online scams.

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For Fans

• Rosie Awards live podcast is coming up in Gwinnett—buy tickets if you want in on inside jokes, campy fake award categories, and the indefatigable spirit of skating fandom.
• Support goes both ways: If you've been scammed by "Katie Keurig," or have lively opinions about Jesus as an extrovert, join the comment section—Ashley and Adam are (hilariously) ready for you.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Hello, everyone, and welcome to this very special crossover episode. This is the Run through meets Intrusive Thoughts. And we're doing this episode today because there are some stories that I want to share with. Wish with Athlee.

[C]

The way his face looks also impacts his speech.

[B]

Okay. There are stories I want to share with Ashley and we actually. I've gotten a ton of messages on the Intrusive Thoughts hotline that are for Ashley that we could. Oh, yeah. That I thought we could dive into today. Hi, everyone. So let me address the elephant in the room.

[C]

Right? Okay. Yeah.

[B]

Okay. I got a chemical peel.

[C]

Okay. Okay. Which one?

[B]

The one that we offer at the Atami Aesthetics Club.

[C]

Okay, great.

[B]

And this one specifically takes a few. It takes a few days. I got this last week. Okay.

[C]

What day are you on?

[B]

I'm on day four. What they would legally consider day four.

[C]

Okay. Is your skin tight? What's happening?

[B]

Ashley? When I move my neck to the one direction my mouth pulls. Let me see if it does it. Oh, no, it's looser today.

[C]

Oh, my God. You have like, lizard skin right now.

[B]

Yes, but when I smile,

[C]

like the nose crinkle. What are those?

[B]

It's like the whole. So I'm starting to peel around, like the mouth a little bit.

[C]

Right, okay.

[B]

But up in the. The cheek area. It's like when I touch It. It feels like hard wrapping paper.

[C]

Hard. It looks like you have a shell on your face.

[B]

It feels like magic shell. You know, magic shell ice cream.

[C]

Like ice cream. Okay. Yes. Like, if you tap it hard enough, you could crack it and get to the ice cream.

[B]

That's how I feel about, like the baby skin that's underneath here. There's kind of nothing I can do about it at this moment except moisturize up to, as they say, three times a day.

[C]

Okay. Okay. Four times would be too many.

[B]

Four times, I think would be cumbersome.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, okay. I want to connect with you about my skin. Right now, the elephant in my room is I have the world's biggest zit on my chin.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

And yeah, it does hurt.

[B]

I'm getting my glasses because I want to see it better.

[C]

You can see. Oh, I'm really well lit.

[B]

I see. Is it deep?

[C]

Oh, it's deep. There's nothing's gonna come out of this.

[B]

Okay. Is it cystic?

[C]

You would say, oh, this is where I get my. Like, I am blessed. And I will admit openly that I have the best skin of all time. Like, I am so lucky. But there's one spot on my face where I get a cystic zit that hurts. And it pops up once a year. And something about post world, I think it was. Honestly, the skating season was just so stressful for us.

[B]

Yeah, it was incredibly stressful.

[C]

You know what's also stressful? I'm going to get into your thing, but I want to get on a soapbox. Will you allow me to climb up on one, please? We are fighting for our fucking lives in the comment section right now. And if you are coming to offer us feedback, I'm going to politely remind you we're not good at introspection.

[B]

What? Can you hold on? Actually, so before we get started, I just want to say that if you're a run through listener, you know exactly who we are. If you're an intrusive thoughts listener and you, there's a 90% chance that you. You know who Ashley is. But if not. Ashley's one of my very best friends. She's somebody who I co host the run through with with our other friend, Sarah Hughes, who's no relation to the Olympic champion. Sarah Hughes. Kind of her fault on that one.

[C]

Yeah, her mistake, big time.

[B]

Ashley is an incredible skater as well. She's an Olympic medalist. She's a world medalist. She won nationals three times. She's one of my favorites.

[C]

Adam knows my career better than I do because I wouldn't have been able to tell you that happened.

[B]

No, no, you wouldn't have. Now, I would really like to dig in for one second to the z. Zit available.

[C]

Yeah. Okay, go. Yeah, let's get into the zit.

[B]

I have a product for you that would work really well for you.

[C]

Is it tea tree oil? That's what my straight husband. Sulfur.

[B]

Yeah, like, you didn't take that well.

[C]

Sorry. How do you acquire sulfur? That's on the periodic table, isn't it?

[B]

Yeah, it is. Along with, like, hydrogen. It's. I have. I'm going to send you. It's like, basically it's this, like, yellow kind of, like, liquid sort of thing. It works so well for those, like, deep pimples because I. I mean, bef. Once I shed this old skin.

[C]

Right. Like a lizard.

[B]

I want you to know it hurts. Tomorrow.

[C]

I believe it hurts. Adam, you can't move the majority of your face. You have a chemical burn on your face. You hopped onto this call, and I screamed, screeched, and then you started closed mouth laughing because it was too painful.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I'm not. I would never put myself through something too painful, But I do know that it'll be worth it kind of in the end, it will be.

[C]

Okay, so I need to start using Satan skin care.

[B]

Yes. No. You're gonna love this. This sulfur thing works really well. It's.

[C]

How did you discover this?

[B]

Because I was like. I was getting these, like, deep cystic, like, pimples that are, like. You know, the ones that you can just. You feel that they're closer to the bone than they are closer to the, like, outer ring.

[C]

Yeah. This has its own blood source, without a doubt.

[B]

You know, when they're so deep, you can feel, like, the heart beating.

[C]

Yes. Okay. All right, so rub some sulfur on it. Rub some dirt on it.

[B]

Yeah. You know what also works is, like. You know, this is very, like, throwing it back to, like, the early twenties. Tens Is like the Mario Badescu spot treatment, because there's sulfur in that.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Well, I've. You've turned a corner on sulfur.

[C]

Yeah. Now I'm like, oh, this is skin care. This is fun.

[B]

If Mario Badescu is pink, it's pink.

[C]

Cute.

[B]

Yeah. So that. That. That works really well.

[C]

Great.

[B]

Now, what were you talking about?

[C]

The comment section, so.

[B]

Oh, yeah. What's going on?

[C]

Well, people don't like our opinions, but it seems like it's somewhat Sarah's fault. And because she's not here to advocate for herself, I'm going to blame her. And she's going to listen to this and feel betrayed and I'm going to get a text message. But it's not our fault that Sarah has bad taste.

[B]

That you disagree with what? I don't even. I can't even see. I'm not one to really read comments. And when I say that, I mean

[C]

that like, fascinating because I'm like, like, wow, people are so brave.

[B]

I don't really.

[C]

They're so brave. It's so interesting.

[B]

I. Sarah texted me yesterday and mentioned that, like, in a past episode, I would think maybe the one that we had just done that, like that. That she was being bombarded, comment wise.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We're. We've been called brats without the Z, which is a shame, but.

[B]

Like the dolls.

[C]

Yeah, because then you're calling me hot.

[B]

No, I've been called a brat before. This is kind of nothing new to me.

[C]

I. I've been told to kill myself before. This is nothing new to me.

[B]

No, come on up the intensity.

[C]

If you're gonna be mean, you're gonna have to be meaner.

[B]

Yeah. And believe me, I think people can be. And they might be.

[C]

Bring it on.

[B]

Let's see it. Actually, it ties really well into what I wanted to talk about today. This was an audience suggestion.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Um, and it's also about betrayal.

[C]

Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[B]

So on this podcast, the. The Run Through Figure Skating podcast, obviously we do sometimes talk about religion.

[C]

Yeah, we do.

[B]

Yeah, we do, actually, really often. Well, it's kind of not our fault. Like, it's the fault of a lot of skaters skate to, like, religious themes.

[C]

We have a lot of zealots in. In our sp.

[B]

Mm. Mini zealots.

[C]

Praise be.

[B]

Yeah. And I would say. I would even say that the skaters who skate to religious music, I wouldn't even consider them religious people, actually anti. Yeah, I would even say that they do it like they. They do it because religion is one thing and it's. It's a dramatic story.

[C]

It's camp. Religion is camp. I'm sorry, you can't convince me otherwise. And if you want to act like it's serious, by all means, I respect that. But that just means you're really buying into the camp of it all. The fact that you have three deep wrinkles going sideways when your cheek is pulling is crazy.

[B]

I know. Speaking of. I mean, you can say this is the meanest thing I could have done to myself.

[C]

Yeah, it's true.

[B]

Okay, so what I would like to talk about first, because I also have a really good Story to tell you. Second.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Is in the vein of religion. This past weekend, and also before we continue, Ashley and I and Sarah, we're all getting ready for. We're going to do a live podcast at the Westin Atlanta Gwinnett. Yeah, you heard me right. We got the West.

[C]

We got Westin. Can you believe? And honestly, you showed us a picture, and it's gorgeous.

[B]

No, it's actually a beautiful place. Gwinnett is holding out, and it's gonna be at the Adult National. So if you haven't gotten your tickets yet, we still have a few available. Please, go ahead. It's gonna be the live Rosie Awards. Rosie Awards are famously where we give fake awards to skaters for fake achievements

[C]

that we've decided, are they turning the corner and they're gonna become so real. Like, I wanna be a major award show that the skaters are looking forward to because we award them because the skaters have brought us so much joy throughout the season.

[B]

Yes, absolutely. Do you remember any of the past categories that we have?

[C]

A single one?

[B]

And honestly, Top of mind. Can't think of one. But we will be awarding categories like,

[C]

I love Best Use of Blood. That is a good one.

[B]

Yeah, we'll do Best Use of Blood. Maybe Best Use of Firearms. That could be another category. I think we'll do the most winningest skater of the Year.

[C]

That one feels like they need to be a staple.

[B]

Yes. But, you know, back to betrayal. I don't want you to get off topic. No, I don't. And I'm not one, too. So, like I said, we. We sometimes take a religious undertone. Un. You know, not on purpose. Uh, and I want you to know that, Ashley, I think that you are many things. I think that you are brave. I think you're beautiful. I think that you are smart. Ash. Actually, as I sit here in a chemical peel and I've been, like, trying to start the medical spa, I've called Ashley a multitude of times, asking her for, like, business advice because she's started her own business, she goes to school.

[C]

I mean, yeah, I'm a learned woman. You are a learned doctor.

[B]

You are an md.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But there is some. There is a subject that Ashley doesn't know a lot about, and it is religion.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, it is that. I think that makes me better. My. I'm not weighed down.

[B]

Go off in the comments.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, you know, we're talking about how I can't handle the comment section. I've already called religion, drag, performance art, so keep it coming. But, yeah, I'm just, you know, I'm not weighed down by the expectations of like, fantasy men. And that feels good.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, Sky Daddy isn't going to get mad at me.

[B]

Okay, great. That's a great way to start.

[C]

So also, Happy Easter. He has risen.

[B]

He has risen. And that is exactly what I would like to touch on and talk about today.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

I would like to talk about. So this past weekend was Easter. Happy Easter, everyone. He has risen. As Ashley did mention once.

[C]

Yeah, once.

[B]

I would like to talk about the events that led to. He has risen. And I would like to kind of hold your hand, but I would like you to kind of guide us. Describe the story of Easter.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Now it all starts with Passover.

[C]

I'm out. Okay. No, you want me to start from Passover?

[B]

I want you to start from like the pass. From like the Passover. There's a Passover. There's like a meal together. Okay, that's right.

[C]

Is that the one where he and his Judy's are hanging out and he gets betrayed?

[B]

Okay, you're on the right Passover. You're at the. You're on like absolutely the right path. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. It's Passover, but they call this specific dinner, like something the Last Meal, the Last Supper.

[C]

Oh, okay. Last Supper. Yeah, yeah. Like it's prison. Okay. The Last Supper.

[B]

Yes, yes. And so at this Last Supper, he's with his. He's called them his friends. Okay. Do you know what his friends are called?

[C]

The Disciples.

[B]

Yes. And he has how many of them?

[C]

13. Feels like a good number.

[B]

You're a baker's dozen.

[C]

Yeah, I don't know. I'm like, ooh, unlucky.

[B]

No, you're. You're so close. One less.

[C]

Okay, so it is actually like a dozen.

[B]

Yeah. You could even say the 12 disciples.

[C]

Wait, can I. Okay. Can I offer some feedback on the story? Well, no, just like that's too many people. Like, I am someone who has really, really tight knit friendships, like, not that many. And I'm happy with that. Like, I don't have to put that much energy into. I'm not spreading myself too thin, like for Jesus, Mr. Christ. I do feel like, you know, you really can't keep tabs on that many people. And. And someone's gonna end up stabbing you in the back because they're gonna feel like you're not giving them as much attention as they're giving. I don't know, George, like, I kind

[B]

of feel like George was a really loyal disciple. Famously in the Bible, George famous.

[C]

I feel like, he brought it on himself, but continue.

[B]

Okay, so during this meal, he also, like, establishes something that we. That people do within the church, like today. Okay, so he, like, breaks off a piece of bread, and this is, like, the first time that he's establishing something. Yeah, I mean.

[C]

Yes, that's what he's establishing. Like breaking bread.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

But feel like he thought he was, like, a little bit too big of a deal because, like, I do feel that breaking bread has been a thing.

[B]

Yeah. But he says the. Something about this bread, and there's wine, and he says something about the wine, too. He says, this bread is my body. Yes.

[C]

Yeah, I know that. I know.

[B]

And this blood, I mean, it's.

[C]

It's. This is where. Yeah.

[B]

Is my blood.

[C]

Do you think anyone sitting at that table was like, okay, this was a little weird?

[B]

No. Like, I think at this point in history, they were, like, all on board.

[C]

Men. I'm. Men. I'm. I. I'm sorry. There needed to be a woman in there to be like, I'm. Okay, explain this a little bit more. I'm feeling a little bit. Because you're not supposed to be drinking blood, period. And especially during that time, you're gonna get all kinds of sick.

[B]

Yeah. Well, okay, so he makes a prediction at this dinner. Okay. He makes two kind of pretty bold predictions. And he looks at all of the disciples. All. And there are 12, as we established. He looks at all 12 disciples, and he makes a prediction, and he says, one of them is going to deny knowing him three times. And they're all like, we would never do that.

[C]

Right. Fake friends. Fake friends, yeah.

[B]

Now, who of them do you think is going to deny him three times? It's kind of his, like, favorite of the bunch, I would even say.

[C]

Okay, I. I'm. I have to literally go through, like, religious names. We've established that George is not one of them.

[B]

No, George Costanza is not one of the 12 disciples.

[C]

Okay, so I know that Adam is a very religious name. Josiah.

[B]

Okay. Adam is, like, the first man. He's, like, way before he's from.

[C]

Because now we're talking about friends with Adam.

[B]

No. Okay, so. So do you. You know the Old Testament and the New Testament?

[C]

Yeah. But I'm going to be honest. I don't really know why they decided to write a new book. Like, what happened?

[B]

Okay, so basically, the Old Testament is everything before Jesus. The New Testament, what were they doing before Jesus? Yes. Jesus is all like, the. Basically, like, the Torah is the Old Testament.

[C]

Okay, so then what's the problem? But. Okay, so then what's the issue between the Jews and the Christians if they're technically kind of reading the same book?

[B]

Because the Jews don't believe that Jesus is, like, the Savior.

[C]

Okay, so then my question is, why can't we just be okay that someone else thinks that?

[B]

I mean, I'm okay. Thinking. I don't think the problem is us. I don't think it's you and me. Okay.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Okay. Okay. So he looks at two of the. He looks around and he goes, two of you are in trouble, Jedediah. Okay. No.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

You're close. It's a J.

[C]

Well, okay. You know, this is where this. This is where Judas comes in.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Yes. But he isn't denying him three times. He actually knows exactly who Jesus is.

[B]

Yes. And he knows he's gonna take some gold. Doubloons. They're not doubloons. Coins. Like, he's gonna take gold.

[C]

He's stealing.

[B]

No, he's not taking it from anyone. He's gonna get paid to kind of

[C]

rat out Jesus by the Romans.

[B]

Yes, exactly. Now, but there's. Now the one who's gonna betray him three times, kind of his bestie in this situation is Peter.

[C]

A fucking Peter.

[B]

Yes. Do you say. You say that as if you've also been betrayed by a Peter.

[C]

I just. I. I'm gonna be honest. I don't feel like I know, actually. No, that's true. The Peters that I know, they would be like. I don't know, like that. That does kind of track, I guess.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I just feel like I'm imagining a lot of, like, white men on Wall Street. Like finance bros. Yes.

[B]

I mean, I would say that this story's been a bit whitewashed. Right. Because these are all men from the Middle East.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Right. It's important we remember that. Yes. Not me. Finally taking a stand in the story.

[C]

They're not actually white people.

[B]

That. Yeah, Right. Okay, good to know. So dinner's over. Delicious. Okay.

[C]

It's lots of body and Jesus.

[B]

Yeah, lots. Mostly Jesus then goes to this, like, garden to pray. Okay. And he knows that going to this garden, he knows that. Like, this is this. Something's up.

[C]

Something's he going.

[B]

If he knows, because he just knows he has to do this. Yeah. Martyr. Okay. Okay. So he's in the garden. Who shows up?

[C]

This is where Judas has to show up.

[B]

Absolutely correct.

[C]

This is. Honestly, I want to see the movie.

[B]

The Passion of the Christ. Is that what you're talking about?

[C]

Oh, is that. It's been made into a movie.

[B]

Okay, yes, great.

[C]

I can. Mel Gibson.

[B]

Yes. Who has nothing to do with this specific dinner.

[C]

But Mel Gibson's not involved.

[B]

Yes. Yet. He will be. He will be later.

[C]

Right?

[B]

Okay. So Judas shows up and he has to identify Jesus. So he walks up to Jesus and he gives him a kiss.

[C]

He's identified. Is someone else there?

[B]

Yes, the, like, the. There's like, the police.

[C]

The police, yes.

[B]

Because he's basically. This is how he's ratting out Jesus. They're like, which one is Jesus? And he goes, I'll go over and I'm going to kiss.

[C]

Why is Jesus in trouble? What did Jesus do?

[B]

Well, people don't like that Jesus is going around, like, you know, healing people. Yeah, they don't like that.

[C]

Is that a crime?

[B]

Well, I think they just don't like that there's somebody who's, like, challenging authority and people are, like, looking to this new authority figure and they're like, we don't like that.

[C]

Is Jesus trying to, like, run the show? Is he trying to be, like, a king or something?

[B]

I think that might be the fear. Right? That might be the fear that, like, people are looking to this person as a God. Right. When they're like, they shouldn't be looking to this person, like, as a God.

[C]

Okay, but isn't the whole point of Christianity kind of saying, like, Jesus isn't the God?

[B]

Yes, yes. That's, like, part of it.

[C]

We're worrying about things that aren't actually. These thoughts are thoughts.

[B]

We need to deal with hindsight. Everything's 20 20, of course. Right. Okay. So they. They. Then they arrest Jesus.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And they take him to, like, the Jewish Council. Okay.

[C]

Oh, the Jewish Council.

[B]

Yes. And then they'll later. They're gonna later take him to the. The Roman governor. And do you know his name?

[C]

Caesar?

[B]

No. Pontius Pilate.

[C]

I was. No, that sounds like, literally, if you were to go right now, it'd be like. It's a DJ name. Pontius Pilot is a DJ name.

[B]

Oh, yeah. No, and he go. He'll be at Coachella this year, too. Like, he's amazing. Zara Larson. I can't wait for the Zara Larson Pontius Pilot set.

[C]

As I'm reacting to this, I just want anyone listening that's getting offended to know, like, I respect your beliefs and, yes, fully give you the right to have them. I am reacting out of, like, I'm amazed.

[B]

Yeah. No, this is not. This is not mockery. This is education.

[C]

Yeah. Okay. So Pontius Pilate, dj.

[B]

Yes. And so, like, also throughout that night, People are like. They're going up to, like, different people. And like, did you know Jesus? Do you know anything about Jesus? And so that's when they go up to Peter. Right. And what does Peter do?

[C]

Never met him.

[B]

Exactly. I mean, okay, now what?

[C]

Is Peter a bad guy? Because Jesus has just been arrested, I feel like I'd pretty quickly be like, who?

[B]

So you would betray Christ?

[C]

I mean, I think that we're painting Peter out to be a not great guy. When in reality, like, did he have kids at home? Was he protecting himself?

[B]

I. I think let's go with protecting himself. I don't. I wouldn't go as, like, the kids are at home.

[C]

Okay. I don't know. I just. I think the way things are going with the police these days, I'd very quickly be like, who?

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

So I guess, yeah, ice. Okay.

[B]

Okay. So they bring. So Peter says, like, I don't know him. And this happens exactly like Jesus said it would. Three times. You're going to betray me Three times. He says that at, as you called it, the last dinner. Okay.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

So he does exactly that. And then he's. Then after he does that three times, he's like, fuck, why did I do that?

[C]

Oh, because now he's upset about being a bad friend.

[B]

Yes. He's really torn up about it.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

So Jesus goes and he goes to the council, and they then elevate the case up to Pontius Pilate. Okay.

[C]

The hbic.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Tiffany Pollard. And they go. And Pontius Pilot kind of is like, I don't think he did anything wrong.

[C]

Okay, great. I agree.

[B]

But there's like, this huge pressure from the crowds because this is like a ca. This is like something that's happening in front of, like, a huge crowd of people. Okay.

[C]

Okay. So he's succumbing to peer pressure and he's supposed to be leading the country.

[B]

Mm. Yeah. How is he going to do that?

[C]

This is the last time our politicians listen to the people.

[B]

Exactly. Why is it. This is when they started. Yeah. This is the last time they listen.

[C]

It's Pontius Pilate's fault.

[B]

Yes. So basically, he kind of, like, succumbs to the pressure and he's like, you know what? Fine. Jesus is guilty. I sentence him to death.

[C]

Feels really extreme.

[B]

It is. I would even say, quite extreme.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So then he does this, like, very famous thing where he, like, washes his hands and he's like, I'm washing my hands of this situation.

[C]

Is that where it comes from? I've been religious this entire Time. I'm washing my hands of this.

[B]

Yes. So then, wait, if this is Jesus,

[C]

are Pontius Pilate first, name, Pilate last, or is it two names?

[B]

I recognize this as one name.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

This is like Mary Beth, Mary.

[C]

Pontius Pilate. Got it.

[B]

Pontius Pilate.

[C]

So he's washing his hands of the situation.

[B]

Yeah. He's like, okay, whatever.

[C]

How do you sleep at night?

[B]

Well, I. I do believe that he probably had trouble doing it.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

After this.

[C]

Good.

[B]

So then this is. He sent. Jesus is sentenced to death. Crucifixion.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

No. So this is where, like, the cross comes in. And so he has to, like, walk this cross, like, for hours to the point.

[C]

Jesus is walking his own cross?

[B]

Yes. Oh, you don't know this part?

[C]

No.

[B]

Oh, yeah, this is bad.

[C]

Wait, so he's dragging his own cross.

[B]

He's carrying it and then on the way to, like, heavy. Yeah, it's not, like, made of carbon fiber. It's, like, solid.

[C]

It's like solid wood. Okay.

[B]

Yeah. Okay. So like, he's carrying it on his own. This is also where they put, like, the. Like, they're like, oh, you think you're a king? Here's a crown for you, bitch. And this is where they put the crown of thorns on Jesus head.

[C]

Okay. But I'm going to be honest, it is kind of gorgeous.

[B]

No. In a sense, when we look aesthetically beautiful.

[C]

Also, like, I do feel like he needed an accessory up there, and I'm glad he got, like, the complete look.

[B]

Yes. And so basically, this is like, Jesus is like. This is something that I might. That God has told me I have to do.

[C]

So that's why speaking to him.

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

I don't. Like, they. When I was, like, doing, like, CCD and being in Catholic school, they didn't go over, like, how they were exchanging text info. Okay. So they put the crown of thorns on him. He carries it. He's like, cry. He cries out in agony. This takes hours. By the time he's getting to the end, there's somebody helping him bring the cross up.

[C]

Okay, so people are helping him do

[B]

this now at the. At this point? Yes, because they, like, they see that he's like, gonna die before he even.

[C]

Where are his disciples? Where are his friends?

[B]

They're not there. They denied him and there's nothing they can do at this point.

[C]

They could help him carry the cross.

[B]

I. That is a really good point.

[C]

When you have too many friends, this is what happens.

[B]

Yeah, I know. And that is a very cautionary Tale of being too close to two, spread too thin. Yes. Okay. So he makes it, and now he's also up there and he's like, has to be. He's being crucified next to these two people who are like these. They're like crooks. They're like, they've stolen things. Okay. And they, you know, they turn to him and they're like, we deserve to be here. You don't deserve to be here. Okay. Okay, so.

[C]

And he's like, cool, thanks. But I'm still here, so that doesn't really help me.

[B]

Yeah, and that's verbatim what he did say. Yeah, well, thanks. So he dies on the cross. This is now, like, this is now we're getting into the Easter part. Okay.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

They take his body, they wrap it up in linen and they bring it like, they bring the body to a tomb. Okay. And it's like a massive, like, cave that they've like, dug out and they.

[C]

And this is where the shroud of Tehran comes in.

[B]

Absolutely, yes.

[C]

You want to know why I know this?

[B]

Because I always say that when I self tan myself and I get out of bed, it looks like the shroud of terrain. Yeah.

[C]

Yes. Okay, continue.

[B]

Okay, now. Yes, that's, that's what that ends up being. Okay. Now, so they put him in this cave. Okay.

[C]

Mm.

[B]

And they like the, they have guards outside. So they put them in the cave and they put this huge boulder in

[C]

front of the cave.

[B]

They do this and they have like, guards out there. So people can't like, go in and do anything with like, they don't want anybody near this. Okay. Now on the third day that he's buried, there are a few women that go to the tomb. They want to like, anoint. Anoint the body with like, spices. Like, they basically want to like, bless the body. They want to do like, like do

[C]

right by his passing and like prepare the body.

[B]

And one of those women is Mary Magdalene. Yes.

[C]

Wait, really?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Wait, I thought she was a whore.

[B]

Well, so this is the thing about Jesus is that like, he loved whores. Well, close. He loved everybody. Yes.

[C]

Right. Okay. We're all equal here.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Matter if we're a whore, harlot, a crook.

[B]

Yes. And so the thing about Jesus is that, like, what people didn't like was that he was kind of like a uniting person where, like, he was friends with the tax collectors, he was friends with the poor, he was friends with the, the, the prostitutes. Like, he was friends with everybody.

[C]

10 out of 10. Non judgmental. Good guy.

[B]

Yeah. No he was a great guy. Like, really beloved by everyone.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

Okay. So they go to anoint the body, and they. The. The stone is, like, rolled away, and they go into the tomb. The tomb is empty. What happened to the soldiers inside? They're like, we have no idea what happened. We've been here the entire time.

[C]

But the rock has moved.

[B]

No, the rock. They move the rock. Dwayne, the rock. Johnson.

[C]

Oh, move the rock. Got it. Okay.

[B]

Yeah. They move the rock so that the women can get in and anoint the body.

[C]

Oh, and he is gone.

[B]

Gone. There's an angel inside the tomb. Yeah. And. And the angel's like, he's not gone.

[C]

He gone.

[B]

Yeah, he's risen.

[C]

Okay, so I want to know, like, how long was that angel in there for? Like, was she sent down just to be like. All right, well, I guess I'll just, like, wait here until people figure it out.

[B]

I feel like the angel. They kind of portray this as the angel is more of a they than a she.

[C]

I love this. Non. Binary.

[B]

Yeah, no, I knew you would love that part. That's my favorite part of this story.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Jesus, he then appears to Mary his mother. Mary? Oh, yeah, Mary, like the Virgin Mary.

[C]

Right. First stop of people to visit Mom.

[B]

Yeah. And the disciples to. To, like, he. He shows up to the disciples.

[C]

Why is he giving them the time of day?

[B]

Well, because he's like, you're just human. Of course you were scared.

[C]

Because Jesus is so much more vindictive than Jesus.

[B]

Right? Which is why you're not the second coming. Because you'd have, like, a bone to pick.

[C]

I'd be like, you're fake. You.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

You're okay.

[B]

No, so he. He goes and he proves to them that he's alive. And he shows them, like, the scars of, like, from where he was nailed to the cross, by the way, which is insane.

[C]

Okay, that is crazy.

[B]

So he shows them that he's alive and he, like, ascends into heaven.

[C]

He's flying. Wait, so then he's not alive?

[B]

Well, no, he's, like, triumph over death, basically. Like, he's. I'm here. Basically, like, Jesus is like. But he's like, ascends to heaven with his human body.

[C]

Okay. And so he is this now, like, he died to, like, wash us free of all of our sins or something?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

So am I sin free?

[B]

Well, have you been baptized? Because you have to accept Jesus to get like that.

[C]

So it's. But he loved everybody.

[B]

He did. And I think that he'd be okay if you didn't There's a lot of people within the sort of religion now that would not be. Okay.

[C]

Okay, well,

[B]

but so now. Now to give you the timeline. Okay.

[C]

I was wondering. I never heard that he died.

[B]

You never heard that Jesus died?

[C]

No, no, no. What I'm saying is, like, I knew he had risen, so then I thought he was just, like, walking around, like, normal again. And then I was like, I'd never heard about him again.

[B]

No, he kind of was like, that's what. Like, he's in his. Like. And then he ascends into heaven in, like, in his human body.

[C]

So he's hanging out up in heaven?

[B]

Yeah, with the body.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

That's really. I'm gonna have to suspend some disbelief here.

[B]

Okay, okay. I'm glad that this is the part. Okay, so basically, the timeline, to give you, like, an idea of, like, how. Where all of this. Like, what all these things mean, okay, there's like, Holy Thursday, Good Friday. Right. Do you know these terms?

[C]

I know Good Friday. I. I feel like we're adding in days of the week. Is it, like, wonderful Wednesday?

[B]

Well, Good Friday. Worship Wednesday is basically like. This is. Good Friday is when Jesus was, like, on the cross. Holy Thursday is the day of the dinner, the last dinner, as you said.

[C]

Okay, so we have a date for the dinner.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

And then he's on the cross the next day.

[B]

Yes. Because that night he's like, you're gonna betray me. And that all happens over the night.

[C]

Oh, okay, wait, we gotta get back to. Peter owes us two more denials. When do those happen?

[B]

No, he did it three times. Like, three different people came up to him. They're like, you sure you don't know him? He's like, no. And then another person is like, okay, you don't know him.

[C]

He maxed out on his denials.

[B]

Yeah. And he did all three of them that night. And he. And then he cries out like, my God, I've forsaken you.

[C]

But I thought Jesus wasn't a God.

[B]

Like, okay, two in the weeds at

[C]

this point, religion loses me in the weeds. Okay, continue.

[B]

But basically, so then, Good Friday. Right. So then it's Friday, Saturday on the third day, Sunday, Sunday, Easter Sunday. That's what all of those days are.

[C]

And those are. Those are big days.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Huge, like, really important days.

[B]

They are. Okay. And that is. That's the story.

[C]

What do you think Jesus does every Sunday to kind of like, celebrate or not Every Sunday, sorry.

[B]

Goes to church, Easter Sunday. What are you doing? Well, what is Jesus doing? Celebrating.

[C]

Right. Is he celebrating? Because he's like, well, I am dead, but I'm alive.

[B]

If my chemical peel could move. If my chemical peel could talk.

[C]

That was so educational.

[B]

But now. Now you know, like, the story of Easter. Because I feel like you. I mean, I had not. I feel. I feel like I've confirmed you didn't know it before.

[C]

No, I had no clue. I just knew to be like, he has risen.

[B]

Yes. And now you know why. And now you know, Judas, because there was a point in time where you were like, Jesus. Yeah. I mean, Judas in trouble is a famous quote.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, listen, money talks.

[B]

Yeah, it does.

[C]

And I would assume not to blame Jesus, because I feel like you shouldn't do that.

[B]

No, but when you. I wouldn't.

[C]

When you have so many friends, I do wonder if he felt like, well, we're not that close.

[B]

Maybe. I think this all kind of comes back down to your insecurities of opening up to other people.

[C]

Oh, a thousand percent. But, like, I know that you would never take money to rat me out. No, I would honestly much rather you take the Peter approach and be like, never.

[B]

I don't know if I would do

[C]

that either, because legally, that can be

[B]

proven disproven in court, I think.

[C]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Well, I know what my DJ name is going to be now. And.

[B]

Yeah. Pontius Pilate.

[C]

Pontius Pilot. That was so interesting.

[B]

Yeah, I think you did a great. Actually. You had a lot of the pieces. I just feel like you didn't know exactly where they belonged.

[C]

Oh, I'm holding a big old. Like, I'm. I represent, like, the puzzle box that you get at Goodwill, and it's missing a lot of pieces, but you got some good chunks and you just hope for the best.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

Yeah. You need a post Easter Sunday, Monday to put it together

[B]

now to kind of completely turn the page. There was. I've been saving this. This was a question that I got. Asking me to ask you are the silver medals that. This. Now, this is completely off topic now.

[C]

Great.

[B]

Somebody wanted to know, are the silver medals that you get at competitions pure sterling silver or pure silver? Now, the problem with this question is that sterling silver is not pure. It is.

[C]

You know what I love about you, Adam? You know so much about gems and, like, raw minerals.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I have no idea what the difference between sterling and silver is.

[B]

Mm.

[C]

Sterling silver and silver. You do. So tell me.

[B]

Yeah, so sterling silver is like a mixed alloy of silver and copper.

[C]

Ah, so you don't want sterling silver.

[B]

Well, I mean, when you get like gold. Right. Like a gold band. That's also. There's also like alloys in there too, because, like pure gold is too soft. Like the higher the carrot.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Do you know what I mean? So, like, sometimes you'll get like a. Like a 14 karat band rather than an 18 karat band. It's less gold, but it's like stronger because gold is stronger.

[C]

Right. It's going to scratch less.

[B]

Yes. It's the same thing kind of with silver that you wouldn't get like a pure silver. Okay. But. And to make a long story short, the metals are not. I think they're silver coated.

[C]

A thousand percent. Those things are. Mm. You boil them down.

[B]

I.

[C]

They're copper, they're aluminum, they're weights. Yeah.

[B]

And this goes for all the metals. This was a kind of a question about all the metals are there are the bronze medals. Bronze. Are the silver medals silver or the gold?

[C]

No, they're taking them out back and

[B]

they are spray painting them in I w. I think the. The Olympic ones have a coating of whatever metal that they're supposed to be like. I think.

[C]

I agree. I think the Olympic ones are a completely different, more intentional medal. But I think, like, what I would get at Skate America is plastic

[B]

is like, it has BPA in it.

[C]

It'll last forever.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. I'm not ever assuming that this is like, made of the medal I've won.

[B]

No, no, no, no. And I would like to tell you one more story again. If you're loving these stories and if you want to be at the Rosie Awards, tickets are still available. We would love to see you at the West End. Atlanta, Gwinnett.

[C]

We've talked about a red carpet. I think we said no to the red carpet, but, like, know where our heads are at.

[B]

Yeah, our heads are here.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Now, I want to tell you about something that I've, like, recently noticed. And this was something that happened to me. And that, like, is not a good thing, but it's an amazing thing.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

My Facebook was hacked.

[C]

I couldn't tell if this was real or fake. Okay, so this was real. You were really hacked.

[B]

I want to tell you the story.

[C]

I thought you were doing a bit. Okay.

[B]

No, I wasn't. I got an email maybe three weeks ago. Okay. I got an email from. Okay, give me a second.

[C]

Wait. This is your fault, isn't it?

[B]

Yes. Okay.

[C]

Okay, great.

[B]

I got an email from Katie Courix. Team Adam. No, every Ashley. Everything about it.

[C]

What is Katie Kerr going to be? Listen, there is a time in your life, and there are. There are chapters. You think she was like, okay, we need to know about the med spa.

[B]

No, listen. Okay, you. Have you been keeping up with Katie Couric? Me being on her podcast is not without the realm of possibility.

[C]

Okay, great. I love that for you.

[B]

So I get it. Okay, well, so I get an email, okay. And it's like, katie Couric would love to have you on her podcast. Who am I to say no to Katie Couric? Right? This is all her fault, by the way.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So I get an email, and they're like, so it's going to be like a Facebook Live event. Because that's how she does her podcast, apparently. Okay. So they're like, it's going to be a Facebook Live event, so you're going to need to get on a tech call with someone. I'm like, okay, cool, great. I can do it. So I. I'm just thinking it's like a zoom. Whatever. Do you know what I mean? Like, you know, a call like this, we just. We sign on to this website, we get the call done. It's everything. It's bada boom, bada bing. Sure. Okay, so I sign on to this call, and this is where I know I made a damn mistake. A grave error. So I sign on to the call, and it's a zoom call, and it's. This is the tech call to get everything set up. And I've done things like, I. Like, the last time I've signed on to a Facebook is maybe 10 years ago at most. And it was uncool to do that then.

[C]

Right?

[B]

So this is 10 years ago, and I sign onto the call, and there's a man on the call who's sharing his screen but not showing his face.

[C]

Adam.

[B]

This was from Katie Couric of supposedly.

[C]

Right. And it was spelled C A, Y, T E, E. Keurig.

[B]

Keurig. Katie Keurig.

[C]

K E, R, I, G. Yeah, Katie Keurig.

[B]

Okay, now the guy has

[C]

go on

[B]

a very thick Indian accent.

[C]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

[B]

And I remember thinking for a second, like, this. Something about this doesn't feel right.

[C]

Right. Well, immediately you're like, well, of course she's gonna, like, really believe in diversity and inclusion.

[B]

She's thinking, like. Like, everything about it is wrong, but everything. Everything this guy is saying is right. He's like, we want to get this set up for. For Katie. And, like, she. You know, she might want to do something, like, extra with you. Would you have more time that they, like, this guy is Phenomenal. To the point where it's like. He's like, can you sign into your profile and make me, like, an admin of the profile?

[C]

Adam.

[B]

Well, it's for Katie Couric.

[C]

No, it's not.

[B]

And also Katie Keurig.

[C]

Adam, you always fall for scams that are geared towards 60 year old white women.

[B]

Women, yes.

[C]

Like a wasp.

[B]

No, the guy is.

[C]

You could even sign into your.

[B]

Oh, I can't anymore.

[C]

That's true.

[B]

Good point. Okay, so the guy is so nice to the point where we end the call. And I was like, you were so helpful. You should tell Katie to give you a raise. And the guy.

[C]

No, you didn't.

[B]

Oh, my God, he's laughing.

[C]

Yeah, because he's about to get rich off of your dumb ass. What was the next step? So then I'm like, stop hearing from him.

[B]

Well, then. Well, when we were supposed to do the interview with Katie Keurig, they're like,

[C]

did you look nice?

[B]

I mean, I was wearing whatever I wore to, like, the episode that we did the other day, because it was like, I was gonna do that in first and then we were gonna record the run through right after. So it's just, like, amazing.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

It's incredible.

[C]

You didn't mention this. You didn't get on and be like.

[B]

Because I didn't put any of it together because it was just like, you know, I went. And nobody was like on the. On the call. And everybody was like, going back and forth. And they're like, we're so sorry about, like, some miscommunication or whatever. Like, they're still getting back to everybody. They're like, we're so sorry about some, like, miscommunication. Like, it's okay. Like, we will reschedule this. I'm like, it's not a big, like, whatever. It's. I'll be fine. So then I like, get this email and it's like, your Facebook is being suspended because you're trying to, like, you're doing some, like, you're posting news activity. No, it. They were trying to. This is what I think that they thought. I think they thought that I had, like, all of this, like, information connected to my Facebook. Like, I think that they thought.

[C]

Well, they probably thought that they could get your Instagram information. Probably, like, doing something through Meta.

[B]

Yes. Which I had, like, never done. Because I don't believe in meta.

[C]

Right. Okay.

[B]

I believe in Instagram, which is part of Meta, but not originally.

[C]

Right.

[B]

So they were trying to, like, run ads on, like, everything I've ever Posted. That was like. Like, that came from my posts.

[C]

Oh, so they're trying to make money off of all your posts?

[B]

Yes. And so I'm like, you know what? And so then I went away last week and I came back like a few days ago and was like, let me just see what's going on over there on Facebook. I go on, and they've been posting. Ashley. They've been doing more social media work for me than I've done in the last 15 years. They're going back to like, my old, like, YouTube videos and they're cutting them up for clips. They're taking my, like, Instagram posts and they're. And I don't know, the.

[C]

The clips hashtag father daughter goals.

[B]

Okay. That's an AI picture.

[C]

They took a picture.

[B]

They took a picture of me and Tracy that I posted. And I don't know. And I like, we were both like, giving. I'm like, we're both. Tracy was giving, like her dog face and I was giving, like, model face, but they aied it. So it's like I'm smiling at the camera because I'm like, what? I've never. I'm like, they're doing.

[C]

I've never seen you smile in a picture like this.

[B]

I've never seen me smile with wrinkled eyes.

[C]

First of all, you would never.

[B]

I don't use my eyes to smile.

[C]

And then he brought Michelle Collins into this.

[B]

Yes, my friend Michelle Collins.

[C]

And it's like warm lights, Italian elegance, and the best company. This is exactly the kind of night I live for. Heart wine emoji. Hashtag Italian vibes, hashtag New York City nights, date night vibes, Italian restaurant. Hashtag city life.

[B]

Is that the most insane thing you've ever seen in your life? They slip up once where they're like, Adam Rippon and I were like, you know, they. They slip up in a, in a caption with something like that. But they're posting non stop.

[C]

Wait. They're doing great work for you.

[B]

I know I have no access to it. And they kicked me out of the page. They kicked me out of it.

[C]

Right, you're. You're banned.

[B]

Yes, I'm banned. But I was like, JP is like, somebody's gonna, like, they're gonna. They're gonna try to get like, money from people. And I'll tell you, like, the people commenting on these Facebook posts are. It's like, it's making sense. Like how propaganda can just, you know, overtake anyone.

[C]

Oh, a thousand percent.

[B]

This. Comments on are. Are very scary. Like, because they're cutting up vid. Like, they're doing amazing edits, by the way. They're doing great edits where I'm like.

[C]

Like, Katie Kerrick Keurig.

[B]

Katie Keurig.

[C]

Really should give him a raise.

[B]

Yes. No.

[C]

I believe you're so talented. If only you could just use your talent for good.

[B]

Yes. Katie Keurig. So I have a boned pick with. And I feel like I'm gonna make an Instagram video about this, because I do feel like this will be the thing that gets me to talk to Katie Keurig.

[C]

You should actually reach out. Start. Well, maybe what you could do is be like, let's collab. You and your hacker. Be like, I really actually. No joke. Even though it is pretty rude that you tried to steal my information and successfully have. But, like, I like what you're doing.

[B]

I love that we can work together

[C]

and we can get Katie's attention.

[B]

And they're posting videos like. Like, they're actually putting time and energy into them. They're, like, posting these. Like, I. Like, maybe eight years ago, I had this, like, YouTube series called Break the Ice. And one of the episodes I did was with the Ziegler sisters, like, Kenzie and Maddie. And they're posting clips from, like, that video, and they're. And, like, with, like, captions up at the top where it's like, Kenzie originally didn't like dancing. It's like, these are videos.

[C]

Can you screen grab these and then just repost them?

[B]

I wish. I think I might have to now. JP Is. He's like, you're gonna get sued for this. And I was like, what do you think? He was like, you know what's gonna happen is, like, they're trying to build trust with your audience now by posting every five minutes, which is what they're doing. Every hour, there's a new video I immediately don't trust. No. Well, you're not on Facebook.

[C]

That's true.

[B]

And so the next thing, he's like, you know what they're gonna do? They're gonna do these, like, events where you have to, like, pay to go. And that's. They're gonna start. They're gonna try to make money from that. And I'm like, are we gonna get

[C]

sued for having a live show in Gwinnett? Because people have to pay to go.

[B]

Well, we're actually gonna show up to that one.

[C]

Oh, you are gonna get sued. That's fun.

[B]

No, but now I'm talking about being hacked, which is like, basically, I'm warning everyone I'M doing everything I can legally.

[C]

You've done what you can?

[B]

Yeah. Has Katie Keurig reached out? No.

[C]

No. Neither has Katie Couric.

[B]

No, she actually probably will reach out before Katie Keurig.

[C]

Well, she'll be suing you.

[B]

Absolutely right.

[C]

Her good name through the mud.

[B]

Well, I mean, it's good enough for me to go on a call with some random man and go, you are. She should give you. I said that. I. I looked at his shared screen. Well, he really was doing such a. He was making it so easy for me to make him an admin, which was, you know.

[C]

Yeah. You know who's never been scammed?

[B]

You.

[C]

Why, though?

[B]

Because you are. You. You're bad mouthing Jesus for having too many friends.

[C]

Because I'm mean. I'm mean, and no one scams a mean person, so I'm safe. I'm not mean. I'm actually nice. But if you're trying to scam me, I'm gonna be mean to you. I will not tolerate someone wasting my time. And that entire phone call sounds like someone is wasting your time and trying to keep you on for as long as possible. And you, on the other hand, are the most avoidant person I've ever met in my entire life. And instead of being like, this doesn't feel right. Why are you asking me to input my password right here?

[B]

Mm.

[C]

Why are you asking me for my Social Security number and my mother's maiden name? 80. So fine.

[B]

Right? It's fine. It's just a few numbers.

[C]

It'll be fine.

[B]

No, it'll. It'll be completely fine. What's the worst that could happen? It's just nine numbers, right?

[C]

No, I'm. I'm not about to victim blame. But also, like, I've already victim blamed Jesus multiple times on this podcast, so I feel safe continuing that.

[B]

Yeah, this is your fault. I know that. And so I. But I also, like, with this, I'm like, I don't have anything on there. I'm like, what do you think? What do you want to do? Like, do whatever you want with this.

[C]

Well, have you reached out to Facebook?

[B]

They don't care.

[C]

Have you, though? Because I think they do.

[B]

I have.

[C]

Okay, good.

[B]

But I really do. And, I mean, I cannot be the first person who's been duped by a fake Katie Couric. Reach out.

[C]

Comment below if you have.

[B]

Also, if Katie Kirk has scammed you, comment below if you've also been a victim of the Katie Kirk interview.

[C]

Church of Jesus Christ.

[B]

Yeah, this is a huge problem. I Told this to. To my friend Michelle yesterday. I was texting with her because I was like, warm lights.

[C]

Honestly, they're describing a vibe that I would get very into.

[B]

Oh, me too. 100%. 100%. Did you know Kenzie Ziegler didn't like dancing originally? And there's like. And it's like all these, like, horrible clickbaity things where it's like, hey, y', all, comment fire emoji below if you're obsessed with Adam's story.

[C]

And, like, wait, okay, so maybe is this person, like, actually a teenage girl in India?

[B]

Maybe? Could be.

[C]

Go off, Queen. We love an entrepreneur.

[B]

Go offline.

[C]

Wait, also, like, mog off.

[B]

Yeah, I said that.

[C]

I thought it was, like, mug off.

[B]

No, now it's mog.

[C]

Okay, so I'm not cool.

[B]

No, because, like, like, your mug would be like, your painted face. Like, mogging is, like, model.

[C]

Okay, so what is a model in a painted face? A moog.

[B]

I think you're overthinking it. A moog.

[C]

A moog. When you call me now, I'm going to make it. This AI picture of you smiling, there

[B]

is something so sinister. You know, whenever I do, like, whenever I see, like, an AI photo of me, it is always, like, huge nose, long face, big, round, meaty face.

[C]

What was that from?

[B]

It was from. Okay, that was from, like, many years ago. Ashley and I have this inside joke which is based on an SNL skit where Kate McKinnon was. There was, like, a painting that was getting, like, oh, that's right. And it was of Jesus, and it was like this painter, like, was trying to refurbish the painting. Yeah. And she completely wrecked it. Spanish woman and Kate McKinnon was. They're like, this doesn't look anything like the original. She goes, no. Yes, it is. You know, this is Jesus's big, round monkey face. His jelly roll scroll. His big beat. The eyes around the monkey face.

[C]

Oh, my God. Speaking of, did you see the interview with all the SNL cast and the one, like, blonde comedian? I don't know any of their names. So it's not that I don't know the women's names. It's that I know no one's names.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Got in trouble. She, like, got fired from being a camp counselor because she pantsed a kid.

[B]

I didn't see that. And that does feel like it warrants a firing.

[C]

I feel. I feel like the idea of pantsing people being, like, funny, ha, ha.

[B]

I don't think that's funny.

[C]

Is a concept that needs to Go away.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Having. Having a kid's balls out in public because of your doing is not appropriate. I could say that. Because I have an infant daughter.

[B]

Uh huh. And I think we can both agree that it's inappropriate.

[C]

Wildly inappropriate.

[B]

Yeah. Now, Ashley, No. That's horrible. Like that. You know, it's scary. It's. It kind of looks like me, but it. It. Please tell me it doesn't. You're. It's just too slow.

[C]

No. What would Peter say? Never met him.

[B]

Yeah, that's correct.

[C]

I don't know who that is.

[B]

Correct.

[C]

Mog off.

[B]

A Mog Off. Yeah, that's okay. Well, you know, and I feel like that might be the most beautiful way to end this episode.

[C]

I really agree. I feel educated. I feel like my universe has expanded to the heavens.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Which is great. Anytime that can happen is always really good. And if you are a skating fan and you listened all the way through to the end of this.

[B]

Mm.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

I feel like our listeners run through and intrusive thoughts alike. I think that they all listened all the way through.

[C]

Yeah. I hope so. If you are a run through listener and you wanna come see us, we do still have tickets for our show on Thursday night in Gwinnett. Gwinnett.

[B]

Yes, Gwinnett. Yeah, Gwinnett. Gwinnett. Atlanta. At the.

[C]

We are braving the Atlanta airport for y'.

[B]

All. So is the Atlanta airport. Is it still bad, by the way?

[C]

I think it's always bad. I think that's kind of like the idea of always bad. Yeah. So we'll see. But can't wait to see you all. And if you are an Intrusive thoughts listener, thank you so much. I'm so glad that I got to, like, be on my first Intrusive thought episode. I feel.

[B]

Yeah, I feel like. Do you know that I did one Intrusive thoughts episode with Sarah and the recording cut out halfway through, so it never made it to the airwaves.

[C]

Okay, so this isn't your first Intrusive thoughts episode with a person, though.

[B]

No, I've had people on.

[C]

Okay, great.

[B]

A lot of times people complain when I have, like, guests on.

[C]

Oh, I can't wait for people to hate me for existing. They're going to love no different. You guys bring it on. As I said at the beginning of the episode, people tell me to kill myself so I can.

[B]

And I didn't do that, for the record. No, you didn't. And I like you very much, alive and well.

[C]

Same me too.

[B]

All right, and on that note, if we can't wait to see you at our live show. Thank you for listening to this episode, Sarah. We miss you. And Sarah does need to be on the next sort of collaborative episode.

[C]

She does.

[B]

But, you know, it's a lull in the skating season. We're just kind of waiting to kind of get through to the Rosie Awards.

[C]

The biggest show of the year.

[B]

It is the biggest show of the year. And we also, like, on the run through, we have a lot of fun summer content planned and so we're kind of getting that together too. So it was sort of like religious lesson and scamming all around.

[C]

So with that, we love you. We appreciate you. And Sarah is usually responsible for playing the music at the end. So what I'm gonna do is do that is play it. And Sarah, I'm so sorry because I can't. Oh.

[B]

Goodbye, everyone.

[D]

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