The Portrait System Podcast: Episode Summary
Title: Working Full-Time While Shooting Fine Arts Drag Portraits with David Franco (Re-Release)
Host: Nikki Klosser
Guest: David Franco
Release Date: April 8, 2025
Introduction
In this engaging episode of The Portrait System Podcast, host Nikki Klosser welcomes David Franco, a talented fine art photographer who successfully balances a full-time career with his passion for shooting drag portraits. The conversation delves into David's journey, creative processes, business challenges, and invaluable insights for photographers aspiring to merge their artistic endeavors with stable employment.
Guest Background
David Franco brings a unique perspective to the podcast, combining his background in graphic design with his evolving photography career. Currently employed by LA County's Board of Supervisors, David captures a wide array of events, from the Women's March to groundbreaking ceremonies.
David Franco [01:05]: "My background's actually not in photography. My background was actually in graphic design... I was always just kind of interested in getting my feet into photography."
Balancing Full-Time Work and Photography
David discusses the dynamics of managing a demanding full-time job while nurturing his photographic passion. His role with the county provides a steady income, which funds his studio equipment and allows him to focus on his fine art projects without financial strain.
David Franco [08:40]: "It's a salary job... it supplies me with the money that I need to kind of fund my studio equipment."
Incorporating Drag Portraits into His Business
A significant portion of the episode explores David's venture into drag portraiture. He shares how attending DragCon and collaborating with drag artists like Aaron Jae Young opened new creative avenues. David emphasizes the diverse expressions within the drag community, highlighting the blend of glamour, punk, and personal storytelling in his work.
David Franco [25:07]: "Every queen is essentially their own brand... We talk and we, you know, we'll brainstorm ideas."
Pricing Strategies and Challenges
David candidly addresses the complexities of pricing his fine art portraits. Initially adhering to a consistent pricing model across different formats, he encountered pushback from clients reluctant to invest in expensive, ephemeral drag looks. Over time, David has grown more confident in his worth, aiming to align his prices with the quality and artistry of his work.
David Franco [16:10]: "I have gotten a lot of pushback on my pricing... I just want my pricing to reflect that."
Nikki suggests adopting a tiered pricing structure to offer clients options without undervaluing his services.
Nikki Klosser [16:59]: "There's something psychologically about a small, medium, large package... it wouldn't make you feel bitter or resentful."
Creative Process and Styling
David elaborates on his creative workflow, from client consultations focused on branding to meticulous styling with props and wardrobes. His preference for constant lighting systems allows real-time adjustments, enhancing his ability to create visually captivating and cohesive images.
David Franco [23:31]: "I switched recently to constant lighting... I can make new creative changes in real time."
David's styling includes a renaissance-inspired wardrobe and a variety of props, enabling dynamic and personalized sessions tailored to each client's unique persona.
Personal Growth and Overcoming Insecurities
A heartfelt discussion emerges as David reflects on his journey to self-confidence. Overcoming a challenging upbringing marked by bullying, David underscores the importance of internal growth in valuing one's art and services.
David Franco [18:18]: "I'm defintely working on that self-value piece... confidence is such a good way to move on from that."
Nikki highlights the disparity between David's internal struggles and his confident external presentation, reinforcing the significance of self-perception in business success.
Recommendations and Advice for Photographers
David offers practical advice for photographers:
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Start with Essential Gear: Invest in tools that align with your style and needs rather than accumulating unnecessary equipment.
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Elevate Your Lighting: Whether using artificial or natural light, mastering lighting can dramatically enhance the quality of your work.
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Value Your Art: Recognize and communicate the lasting impact and legacy your photographs represent.
David Franco [42:39]: "Elevate your lighting game... lighting is such a critical part of our work."
Q&A Highlights
The episode concludes with a vibrant Q&A segment where Nikki poses several thoughtful questions to David:
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Essential Gear for Shoots:
- David Franco [38:11]: "Probably a fan... it adds a lot of drama and helps clients stay cool."
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How He Spends His Time Off:
- David Franco [40:07]: "I love exploring and walking around and stuff, and I love just shooting things... spending time with family and friends."
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Recommended Photography Product:
- David Franco [41:37]: "Start with something that you feel you need... lighting is definitely the most critical."
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Advice for Beginners:
- David Franco [42:51]: "Remember how important your work is... these are images that are going to outlive them. You're worth it."
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Where to Find Him Online:
- David Franco [44:11]: "You can find me on my website, davidfrancophoto.com, and on Instagram @davidfrancophoto."
Conclusion
Nikki wraps up the episode by expressing her appreciation for David's openness and insights. She encourages listeners to apply the lessons shared and looks forward to David's continued growth within the community.
Nikki Klosser [35:44]: "It's so true. All right, well, I still have some questions that I always ask at the end of each episode."
Key Takeaways
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Balancing Multiple Roles: Successfully managing a full-time job while pursuing artistic passions requires strategic time management and financial planning.
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Embracing Niche Markets: Specializing in genres like drag photography can differentiate a business and provide unique creative satisfaction.
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Confidence in Pricing: Valuing one's work appropriately is essential for sustainable business growth and personal well-being.
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Continuous Learning: Engaging with communities, such as attending conferences, fosters personal and professional development.
Notable Quotes
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On Pricing Confidence:
"I'm definitely getting to a place where... I'm just taking on clients that want to, you know, pay me these prices."
— David Franco [16:59] -
On Art's Value:
"These are images that are going to outlive them. And, you know, I've gone to funerals... That's your legacy."
— David Franco [42:51] -
On Personal Growth:
"I'm like, just from my own experience, that it's just... it'll just get you out of your box."
— David Franco [35:44]
Connect with David Franco
- Website: davidfrancophoto.com
- Instagram: @davidfrancophoto
This episode serves as an inspiring blueprint for photographers striving to harmonize their creative pursuits with practical career demands. David Franco's experiences offer valuable lessons in resilience, adaptation, and the relentless pursuit of artistic excellence.