Sticks & Stones | Bishop TD Jakes

Summary

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The Potter's House Podcast

Episode: "Sticks & Stones" — Bishop TD Jakes

Date: April 5, 2026

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Episode Overview

This powerful sermon, delivered by Bishop TD Jakes at The Potter’s House of Dallas, centers on the biblical story of Exodus 17:1-6 and the theme "Sticks & Stones." Bishop Jakes masterfully connects the physical hardships and miracles of the Israelites' desert journey to spiritual obstacles and breakthroughs in modern life. Emphasizing the symbolism of the “stick” (Moses’ rod, the wooden cross) and the “stone” (the rock struck for water, the stone at Jesus’ tomb), Bishop Jakes encourages listeners to trust divine instructions—even when they do not make sense—and to boldly break free from spiritual and emotional barriers.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Israelites’ Journey and the Reality of Deliverance

• Scripture Foundation: Exodus 17:1–6 (03:21–08:12)

  • The Israelites, after 400 years of bondage, are brought out of Egypt but “even though they got out of one hell, they faced another in the desert” (03:37).
  • Deliverance comes with difficulty—not always convenient or comfortable.

• Spiritual Maturity:

  • “When you can praise God when everything isn’t quite right” (05:09).
  • Being freed does not mean you are problem-free. Mature faith flourishes in imperfection.

2. The Wilderness Teaches Endurance

• Personal Reflection:

  • Bishop Jakes shares about his childhood, growing up “in a hot house with no air conditioning,” learning to “make do with what you had” (15:02–19:57).

• Endurance as Strength:

  • Hardship prepares us for resilience—“It’s hard to hurt somebody that’s been raised in the wilderness” (20:06).
  • He ties this back to spiritual wilderness seasons, saying, “All you got to do is default back to where you came from and say, I’m going to be all right” (20:20).

3. God Uses Ordinary Things for Extraordinary Purposes

• The Power of the Stick:

  • God gave Moses a stick (the rod) against Pharaoh’s chariots and armies.
  • “God must have a sense of humor. And God said, what is that in your hand?” (24:14).

• Obedience in the Absurd:

  • Sometimes God gives an answer that “doesn’t make no sense”—like being told to strike a rock for water (10:57).
  • Quote: “But he said, I want you to smite the rock.… If you obey me, I’ll make things that’s not supposed to bless you, bless you” (11:16–12:02).

4. The Pattern of "Sticks & Stones" through Scripture

• Biblical Connections:

  • From Moses' rod to David’s sling stone, the Bible repeats the motif of victory through unexpected means (35:36–36:42).
  • Quote: “David picked up rocks… and killed Goliath with a rock.… Jacob laid his head down on a rock and the heavens opened up” (35:36–36:12).

• Calvary's Shadow:

  • The cross (“the stick”) and Jesus’ tombstone (“the stone”) prefigured in the Old Testament stories.
  • “Genesis 22 is a picture of Calvary—Abraham put the wood on Isaac, then built an altar with a stick and a stone” (38:03–38:21).
  • “Like Isaac carried the wood, Jesus carried the cross. But the cross was just a stick” (38:24).

5. The Resurrection as Breaking Free

• Overcoming the Stone:

  • “It’s not enough to wake up out the grave if you’re still stuck behind the stone. Some of you been resurrected but you've been living behind a stone…” (48:01–48:52).
  • Stones can be “doubt, poverty, insecurity, pride, lust.”

• Freedom Call:

  • “When God says get up, I’m gonna get up. And the nails can’t hold me. I’m gonna get up. And the grave can’t hold me. I’m gonna get up…” (51:33–52:21).

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Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes

• On Spiritual Hardness:

  • “It was hot in the house… but we still sang, and we still got along… Everything doesn't have to go your way for you to have peace.” (16:42–17:23)

• On Human Nature during Crisis:

  • “Thirst and gossip, thirst and murmuring… when you are not satisfied in your own life, you have a tendency to be cynical, to be condescending… when people are mean to you, they are mad at themselves.” (08:52–09:23)

• On Blaming Others:

  • “When people get tight, they need somebody to blame. So they want to blame this folk and that folk… Moses said unto them, why chide ye with me? Haven’t you ever wanted to say that to somebody?… Why you fooling with me? Don’t start nothing, won’t be nothing.” (07:21–08:09)

• The Power of Praise:

  • “[Miriam] grabbed her tambourine… she started beating her tambourine… the more she beat the tambourine, the more Pharaoh’s army dwelt drown in the Red Sea… praise is a weapon” (27:47–28:04).

• On The Finished Work:

  • He died “for your secret sins… that’s why God doesn’t understand when you can come out on Easter and not praise God. Because he knows what he did in your life.” (41:44–42:19)

• Call to Action:

  • “Some of you have decided, I’m just going to live in the tomb. But God said no. God said no. Lift your hands for a moment and worship him… that stone in your life need not stay…” (58:45–59:40)

• On Grace:

  • “This space we got right here is a grace space. Grace don't last always… There is nothing in your life… that God cannot forgive” (66:25–67:45)

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Key Timestamps

• Introduction to Exodus and Oppression: 01:47–03:37
• Deliverance Brings New Challenges: 03:37–05:09
• Adapting to Hardship and the Power of Enduring: 15:02–20:01
• Learning from the Past and Making Do: 19:30–21:04
• Moses and the Miracle of the Stick: 24:14–26:22
• Praise as Warfare: 27:47–29:34
• The Symbolism of Stones and Sticks: 35:32–38:24
• The Cross and Resurrection Paralleled: 38:24–41:44
• Rolling the Stone Away—Breaking Free: 48:01–50:27
• Congregational Call to Praise and Leap Up: 52:21–57:21
• Altar Call: Breaking Free, Leaving the Grave: 58:23–64:27

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Tone and Atmosphere

• Fiery, passionate, and personal: Bishop Jakes weaves Bible exposition with personal and cultural anecdotes, using humor and candid stories about his childhood to connect spiritual principles to real-life struggles.
• Encouraging and liberating: Throughout, the message is about believing your way out of bondage; “if I had a hundred radical people that would give God the praise, something would break in here this morning” (52:31).
• Inclusive and urgent: The altar call is direct—"If I got to come with liquor on my breath, I'm coming this morning. Because I want a change in my life…" (64:27).

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Concluding Challenge

• Bishop Jakes closes with an urgent, grace-filled invitation: “There is nothing in your life, on your life or in your past, that God cannot forgive… Stones are going to rol[l] this morning. They’re going to roll this morning. It’s God’s job to call and it’s your job to answer.” (64:21–66:25)

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Listening to this episode is an experience of deep encouragement—calling all to obedience, trust, and faith that God can do the miraculous with even the simplest things in our lives, and that no stone, no matter how long it has held us, is too great for Him to roll away.

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Exodus chapter 17, verse 1 through 6. It is so good to see you this morning. It's just good to see you. You didn't have to be here this morning. I didn't have to be here this morning. But God was good enough to let our moments roll on. You ought to say yes somebody. We're going to start reading at the first verse of the 17th chapter of the book of Exodus. The book of Exodus describes the exit of the children of Israel out from the bondage of the Egyptians where they had been oppressed for 400 years. They had lived in Egypt for 430 years. The first 30 years they were not oppressed. But when Joseph died and another pharaoh came in, a pharaoh that knew not Joseph nor his God, he began to oppress him. People will change on you, won't they? And they lived in oppression for 400 years. I know you can't imagine 400 years. I can't either. That's a long time to live up under oppression. And they had almost forgotten who they were, their customs, their ceremonies, their language, their rituals. But they cried unto God in a haphazard way, not knowing fully what to call him, how to use his name, how to stand on his word. But he heard the cry.

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And he told Moses, I have heard

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the cry of my children. Go down into Egypt and tell Pharaoh to let my people go. God is going to release somebody in here today.

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I feel it, I feel it, I feel it, I feel it.

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God's going to release somebody in here today. And so they. They left out of Egypt, going into the promised land by way of the desert. God doesn't always let you choose what route he takes you to deliver you. It's not always comfortable, it's not always convenient. It's not always cool. And just because you get out of one trouble don't mean you won't have to face another one. And so they got out of one kind of hell to run into another one. Now they're going through the desert, and it is scorching hot during the day, hot enough to die in the walk during the day, and it is freezing cold at night. But they were free. But they were free. Look at somebody say, I still got problems, but I'm free. Yeah, yeah.

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Everything is not going right, but I'm free.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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My money's kind of funny, but I'm free. My husband walked out on me, but I'm free.

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My parents are sick, but I'm free. My refrigerator's half full, but I'm free.

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And I have learned whatever state I'm

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in therewith to be content. That's maturity.

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When you can praise God when everything isn't quite right.

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We interject into the experience at a time and at a moment that they are adjusting to a new reality. And I chose this text. I believe the Lord put it on my heart, because we are adjusting to a new reality. It's not that the past was perfect, but now we have a new kind of problem to fight. And it's going to take a new kind of ingenuity, a new kind of wisdom, a new kind of power to be able to deal with it. And Moses is trying to lead a people who are, one, displaced and two, confused and three, frustrated. And they're not sure of their leader, and they're not sure of themselves, and they're not sure of God because they had not walked with him long enough. See, you have to walk through God Through a whole lot of situations to be sure of God. Anybody can be sure of God when all the bills are paid and your body's feeling good and your kidneys are working right and you got no cancer. But when all hell is breaking loose, the devil has a tendency to say,

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where is your God?

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Now? Am I talking right to somebody in here? And the verse one says, and all the chil. And all the congregation of the children of Israel journeyed from the wilderness of sin after their journeys, according to the commandment of the Lord, pitched in Rephidim, which was a little camp in the wilderness, and there was no water for the people to drink. Wherefore, because of the fact that there was no water for them to drink, the people did chide with Moses. See, whenever things get tight, people get nasty. I better not start any of this text. I'm going to start some.

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See, the reason there's so much vitriol

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in this country right now is that things have tightened up a little bit. And when people get tight, they need somebody to blame. So they want to blame this folk and that folk and this person and that person. And so they begin to blame Moses and to begin to pick on him and chide him and said, give us water that we may drink. And Moses said unto them, why chide ye with me? Haven't you ever wanted to say that with. To somebody? Let me translate it into ebony. Why you fooling with me? You want some of this?

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Don't start. Nothing, won't be nothing.

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Don't make the nice man mad.

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Why chide ye with me?

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Wherefore do ye tempt the Lord? If you chide with me, you tempt God. If you mess with me, you mess with God.

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You may think I'm in here by myself, but I'm surrounded by God all around me.

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And the people thirsted there for water. And the people murmured against Moses. Those two things go together. Thirst and gossip, thirst and murmuring.

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See, when you are satisfied, a whole

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lot of things don't stick to you.

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But when you are not satisfied in

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your own life, you have a tendency to be cynical, to be condescending, to be acrimonious, to have the kind of attitude and disposition that you are hard to get along with. You have to understand then that when people are mean to you, they are mad at themselves.

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I'm preaching. I'm preaching. I'm just reading the text. Lord have mercy.

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Let me go on about my business. They murmured against Moses and said, wherefore is this that thou has brought us up out of Egypt. Now they was in slavery. So anything's got to be an upgrade to kill us and our children and our cattle with thirst. And Moses cried unto the Lord, you can say things that make men of God cry unto God. You can say things that make women of God cry unto God. And when they cry unto God, something is going to happen. He said, what shall I do unto this people? They be almost ready to stone me. And the Lord said unto Moses, go on before the people and take with thee of the elders of Israel and thy rod wherewith thou smotest the river, taking thy hand and go take your rod and go in front of the people. Behold, I will send. I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb. And thou shalt smite the rock. I want you to pay attention to that. I want you to take your rod and smite the rock. Lord, they thirsty. Why you got me hitting rocks?

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Have you ever had God give you

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an answer that didn't make no sense? You talking to him about the rent, and he's telling you to give water to the puppy. Sometimes God will command you to do

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something that don't seem like it has

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nothing to do with your situation. But he said, I want you to smite the rock.

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That's why when Pastor was talking about

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obedience, he was really hitting on something. Sometimes God will tell you something that don't make sense to you. It passes all understanding. You can't stand under it, but you gotta obey it. Smite the rock. Take your rod, take your stick and hit the rock. And there shall come water out of it. Oh, I could dance right there because I've never seen a rock that was supposed to be a water cooler. But God said, if you obey me, I'll make things that's not supposed to bless you.

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Let me tell y', all, if you obey me, I'll give you jobs that

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you're not supposed to have.

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If you obey me, I'll give you the kind of spouse that make folks jealous when you walk in and they say, what is she doing with him? God said, I'm going to bring water out of it that the people may drink.

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And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel. Can you say amen? I'm interested in that. Take your rod and smite the rock. And my subject this morning remains standing. I'm going to pray. But my subject this morning is sticks and stones. Sticks and stones. My God, I feel something in this place. Spirit of the living God fall fresh in this place right now. I thank you for what you're going to do, move in the midst of your people. Great God that you are. In the mighty name of Jesus, we pray. Somebody shout thunderously, Amen. You may be seated. Oh, y' all sound like the Potter's house. You sound like the Potter's house.

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Somebody shout amen.

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Oh, my God. I have been in Dallas for the last 30 years. I was raised in Charleston, West Virginia. I am 69 years old. Come June, I have been preaching for nearly 50 years. It'll be 50 years in September. 50 years of preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ.

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But when I was a boy, I

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grew up on the street side of a hill in the area we call Vandalia in Charleston, West Virginia. And our house was the last house before the hill dropped over the cliff. And so we would, from time to time, go play. Now, I cannot remember a toy that I had that plugged up. I know y' all don't understand this. I. I'm gonna say that again. I cannot remember a toy I had that plugged up. No Nintendo's, no nothing. No, no. No laptops, no nothing like that. I might have got a train set one time. But most of it, Most of it didn't plug up. Most of it didn't have battery. In fact, we had very few toys that came out of the store. You might get a plastic train, you know, that you could run back and forth. My sister would get a doll baby or something like that. But most of the time, Mama would

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send us out with no toys.

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And she would tell us, go outside and play.

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Now, you don't hear too many mamas

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telling their children to go outside and play today. Because.

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Especially in Dallas, because it's hot outside. But the reason we didn't mind going

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outside to play is because it was hot inside.

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I'm going to talk to y'. All.

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They bougie over there.

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Let me. When the house is hot, it's a different kind of hot from the hot outside.

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Cause at least a little breeze will blow every now and then. Or you can get up under a tray, a shade tree.

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But when that house gets to smoking and you start feeling like a turkey

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and you start basting in your own juices.

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It was hot in the house. It was hot in the house. There were there. There were no.

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There was no air conditioning for a long time. There was just a fan. One would be turned this way and one would be turned the other way. And they were trying to be scientific, you know, to get a breeze to

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blow through the house.

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And that was normal.

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Last year, the power went out in Dallas, and I almost had a fit.

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I said, oh, God, if you don't turn this electricity back on, I'm going

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to die right where I am. And then it occurred to me, fool,

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you was raised in a hot house.

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I had forgotten where I came from. I had forgotten what God had done.

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I had forgotten how to withstand discomfort.

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And a few days of discomfort didn't

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compare to decades of living in that hot house.

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It was so hot, we got where

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we didn't pay it no attention.

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Hot was normal. My neighbor's house was hot.

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The pages that lived up the street, their house was hot.

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Ms. Hutchinson's house was hot.

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Everybody.

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Ms. Timberlake's house was hot. Everybody on the street lived in a house that was hot.

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And we still sang, and we still got along, and we still had fun,

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and we still had life, and we still got up in the morning, and

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we were still brothers and sisters. And we're still together today, in spite of the heat. Everything doesn't have to go your way for you to have peace.

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Mama would send us outside to play with.

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I already told you, no kind of toys or nothing. And you would grab some sticks and make them into bows and arrows, and y' all don't know what I'm talking about. You would make some castles out of rocks or sand.

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One year, I had a magnifying glass.

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I was chasing ants.

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Not too long ago, I sent one

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of my grandchildren outside to play. I bought him a little motorbike, a little mud bike, and I sent him outside to play. He played for a minute or two. Yeah. And then he wheeled back around and went back in the house and got on his iPad. And I thought, don't you want to play outside? But see, he was raised inside, in comfort, in air conditioning, with iPads.

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And he knew how to run the

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iPad, but he didn't know much about withstanding heat. Is it.

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Is there anybody in here that knows

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something about withstanding heat?

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See, people who live in a hot

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house don't cook till it's late at night. That's why we started cooking oven. We start cooking turkeys at night because it was too hot during the day

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to heat up the house.

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Cooking a turkey or baking a cake or doing it.

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So your mama did all the baking

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that night when the house had cooled down. Y' all don't understand nothing about it. I have to explain this to you. This was before Jiffy Cornbread. This was before Quick Grits. We just made do with what we had and went on about our business.

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These children that I'm preaching about, they was like me.

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They were out there in the wilderness. I played in the wilderness with sticks and stones. I played in the creek bed, pulling rocks out of creeks and trying to catch salamanders. And y' all don't know what I'm talking about. I played with boxes and caught toads and brought them back home to mama.

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Brought a turtle back in the house. Those were my toys that I played

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with because I was raised in the wilderness.

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Now, it's hard to hurt somebody that's

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been raised in the wilderness.

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Because when you've been raised in the wilderness, what would send other people back home?

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You can take it.

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All you got to do is default

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back to where you came from and

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say, I'm going to be all right. Somebody said, how could you preach in

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the church for two years? And it was empty.

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I said, oh, there was no problem.

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I was raised preaching in a church that didn't have no people. If I had seven people, it was a big crowd. We might have had 30 people on Easter, counting pregnant people and dead folks.

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And I know how to make the best out of a bad situation.

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And I'm not ashamed of that.

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I'm not ashamed of that.

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That's given me stick to itness, stability.

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That's given me fight and drive and tenacity. That's given me a certain relentlessness. That's given me an attitude. I don't have to have a Hammond B3. I can have an upright piano with a microphone stuck down in it tied to an amplifier and stomp my foot and still praise the Lord. I can have a triangle and a washboard and start praising the Lord with a washboard. And we would bring down more glory with a washboard than you all do with all this technology you got right now. I don't have to have. I can be in my house. I can be in my living room. I can be in my car with no music at all and get happy all by myself. I can get happy in the bathtub. I can start speaking in tongues in my car. Cause I wasn't raised with all of this fancy stuff. I was raised where the praises of God was in your mouth and you didn't have to plug it up. It would just come out of your. Out of your belly would flow rivers.

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So the children of Israel were adjusting to the heat of the desert. They were used to being slaves. They didn't like it, but they were used to it. They had had 400 years of it. Which is 10 generations, 10 generations of slavery. And they asked God to deliver them. And sometimes we ask God to deliver us. And we think that deliverance is going to be comfortable. But deliverance was not comfortable. Pharaoh was chasing them, trying to get them back. Deliverance brought them to the Red Sea, a stoppable place. They got to a stoppable place being delivered. Some of you have asked God to deliver you, and now you're at a stoppable place. But you don't understand that God's miracles are generally in stoppable places. And so Moses, being a young leader himself, not having had much experience leading people, not being familiar with people that he's related to, is trying to lead them through a stoppable place. And he says, God, what am I going to do? Pharaoh is behind me, and the mountains are on either side of me, and we have no weapons. I got a bunch of farmers with me, and they're murmuring against me. And God said to him, what is that in your hand? So God had given him, now let me go back. Pharaoh had 400 chosen chariots. That was the best fleet he had for warfare. They were riding on chariots and horses with swords and shields. And God gave Moses a stick. God must have a sense of humor. And God said, like he had a

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nuclear bomb or something, what is that in your hand? He said it like it was an

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atomic bomb or, what is that in your hand?

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When Moses said, I got a stick, God said, lift up what you got. Touch somebody and say, lift up what you got. Don't wait for things to get better. Don't wait for things to get nice. Don't wait for you to have confidence in your weapon.

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If you don't have nothing but a

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stick, lift up the stick.

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Moses is just learning what the stick will do. He has practiced a little bit in the wilderness. He's done a few things with Jethro out in the wilderness, where God was

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showing him how to work what he had.

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Sometimes God will put you in isolation to teach you how to work what you got. He'll give you a dress rehearsal, a practice.

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And God had told Moses, put your

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hand in your bosom, and it came out white as snow. Pour out water, and it turned to blood. He said, throw down your spirit stick. And it turned to a serpent. Grab the serpent by the tail, and it turned to a stick. Say, I lost right then. Because when God said, grab the serpent by the tail, the miracle would have been over right then. Okay?

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But, but, but, but.

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Grabbed the serpent by the tail and it turned into a stick. So he has a weapon that he is still learning how to use.

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So fast forward when it comes down

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to the Red Sea, God is still examining, trying to get him to examine what is in his hand. He said, lord, I got this rod in my hand. He said, stretch forth the rod, Lord. The Pharaoh's coming. And he got chariots. And I can hear the hoof prints galloping behind me. God said, I don't care about what you hear in your senses. Obey my word and stretch forth what's in your hand.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

I'm preaching to somebody already. I don't know who it is.

[Pastor Michael]

Your senses are telling you one thing, but your spirit is telling you something else. And so Moses stretched forth his rod,

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

just nothing but a stick.

[Pastor Michael]

And the Bible said that the waters parted this way and that way, and he made the water stand at attention.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

And then when Moses stepped down into the. When he stepped down into the Red Sea, he stepped down into dry ground.

[Pastor Michael]

Y' all didn't get that. See, you still stuck at the fact that the water stood up.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

You don't. You haven't even gotten to the fact that who dried up the land that was sitting up under the water. Will God not dry up the land for you and make a way out of no way? And put you in a position that he'll make your pathway smooth. He'll make your path. I wish I had a witness where God made something smooth that you thought was going to be hard. And God brought them through on dry ground. Having brought them through on dry ground, God now has them in a position where they come out on the other side.

[Pastor Michael]

By the time Pharaoh gets to the Red Sea, the walls are collapsing, the dry ground has turned to mud, and they are drowning in the Red Sea. They are drowning in what you walk through.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

I said, they are drowning in what you walk through. They are drowning in what you walk through. And Miriam, you know what she did? She.

[Pastor Michael]

She started. She grabbed a tambourine. I wish somebody had one.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She grabbed a tambourine and started doing like that.

[Pastor Michael]

Yeah, she started beating her tambourine like that.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

See, praise is a weapon. And the more she beat the tambourine, the more Pharaoh's army dwelt drown in the Red Sea. Y' all don't hear what I'm talking to you about. Glory to God. If you would just start praising God over them bills, God would drown them bills in dry ground. If you would start praising God in the hospital, I know they gonna think you're crazy. But if you Just. Just give that tambourine a couple of taps in there. God would do something with that cancer. He would move that t tumor, he would shrink that disease. Because greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world. I wish I had a witness in here. You didn't have nothing but a praise. But while you were praising God, don't you know, while you're praising God, God is drowning your enemies.

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

If you knew what I'm talking about,

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

you would dance right where you are.

[Pastor Michael]

Because when.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

When you start praising God, devils start drowning. When you start praising God, bodies get healed. When you start praising God, God starts opening doors. We're not just dancing to be dancing.

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

We in a fight. I'm not dancing because I got new shoes.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

I'll kick off my shoes and dance barefooted because I'm in a fight.

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

Anybody in a fight, give him about

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

15 seconds of warfare praise.

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

Warfare.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

Warfare in this place. Warfare in the balcony. Warfare in the back. Warfare in this place.

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

I'm gonna dance while the devil drowns. I'm gonna dance, Dance while it drowns.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

And God brought them through. The Bible said.

[Pastor Michael]

He brought them through on eagle wings.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

He.

[Pastor Michael]

He gave them first class service. He brought them through on eagle swings.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

Now they have made it through the desert.

[Pastor Michael]

They have survived slavery, but they went in slaves and came out sons. Y' all didn't hear that. They went in slaves and came out sons.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

They were baptized unto Moses in the

[Pastor Michael]

cloud and under the sea, there was a cloud above them.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

There was water all around it. God calls it baptism.

[Pastor Michael]

Some of the things you call trouble, God calls baptism.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

And they come out on the other side.

[Pastor Michael]

And the prophet problem is they're in the wilderness, and they're in the wilderness and they're thirsty. Now you've been a slave. You had to make bricks with no straw. You built pyramids and had all kind of warfare. And now you're complaining because you're thirsty.

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[Pastor Michael]

And they Chided against Moses Thirsty people are angry people. I want to drive that in real deep. I realize I said it before, but I'm going to say it again. Thirsty people are angry people.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

Sometimes even if you give them some

[Pastor Michael]

water, it will not stop the anger

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

because the thirst is not coming for

[Pastor Michael]

the lack of water. The thirst is coming because they are angry people. They're frustrated people and they'll take it out on you because. Because they need something to Brain I was studying on the human brain and

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

the study that I was reading said the human brain, if it cannot find

[Pastor Michael]

a reason to explain the turmoil, will make up a reason because it needs

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

to rationalize to you why you are

[Pastor Michael]

going through what you're going through.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

So you can't even trust what you're thinking sometimes, because sometimes you're thinking thinking

[Pastor Michael]

just so you'll have something to be mad at. You'll be mad at the immigrants, you'll be mad at white people, you'll be

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

mad at black people.

[Pastor Michael]

You'll be mad at short people, you'll be mad at fat people.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

You'll be mad at anybody to explain why you're there. Therefore you feel justified to be in your condition because you have blamed somebody for that condition. So they blame Moses. It wasn't Moses job to get them

[Pastor Michael]

some water, but they blamed Moses for

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

bringing them out there where there was no water.

[Pastor Michael]

And God. Moses cried out to God and said, why are the people chiding me? Why are they chiding me? Why are they chiding against you? And God told Moses, I'm going to show you something else. Going to do something with your stick that's never been done before. And the Lord told me to come here and tell you this morning that he's going to do something with your stick that's never been. Done before. There is a relationship set up in this text that is a preview of Calvary between the stone and the stick. You can't see it because it's in the shadows, but there's something there between the stone and the stick. Deliverance always happens whenever you see a stone or a stick. There's something about the way God moves through a stone or a stick, and he has a way of opening up a door. So he told him, take the stick and hit the rock, and water is going to come out.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

I've been showing you a little bit

[Pastor Michael]

about your stick, but let me show you a little something about your rod.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

Let me tell you something.

[Pastor Michael]

God did all kinds of stuff with rocks. David picked up rocks, smooth stones out the riverbank and killed Goliath with a rock.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

He didn't have a sword or a shield.

[Pastor Michael]

All he had was a rock.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

Jacob laid his head down on a

[Pastor Michael]

rock and the heavens opened up.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

I'm talking about what God can do with a rock. God has a way of doing things with rocks that will blow your mind. These weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but they're mighty through God. It's not normal for water to come out of a rock, but God has

[Pastor Michael]

a way that if you take the stick and you take the rock, it breaks water out of the rock.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

And all through the Bible, this pattern

[Pastor Michael]

continues over and over again. We see God delivering his people with rocks and with sticks. We see God opening up doors and making ways. We see God moving mountains. We see God opening up revelations. In fact, we see God as a rock. The Bible said he is the chief cornerstone.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

Oh, y' all don't hear what I'm saying. Elijah slept on it. David threw it. Moses hid in it. God said, moses, get over in the rock, and I'm going to cause my glory to pass before you. Jonathan climbed through the rock to fight the enemy. Solomon took the rock and built the temple.

[Pastor Michael]

The spies climbed over the rock.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

Rock. The Hebrews shouted till the rocks came tumbling down.

[Pastor Michael]

The Pharaohs dropped their.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

The Pharisees dropped their rocks. Y' all don't hear me? Lazarus leaped out of the rock. God has a way of doing things with rocks that you don't even understand.

[Pastor Michael]

And when you take the stick and

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

you put it with the rock, water's going to come out, touch your neighbor and say, water. Water is about to come out. This whole pew is about to get wet. This whole pew is about to get wet.

[Pastor Michael]

This, this. This.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

This Resurrection Sunday. Because what God did on Calvary is foreshadowed in the Old Testament.

[Pastor Michael]

If you think about the resurrection story,

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

it is really a story about a stick.

[Pastor Michael]

And

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

it's just a story about a

[Pastor Michael]

stick and a stone.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

Let me show you.

[Pastor Michael]

In Genesis, the Bible said that Abraham took his son, his only son, Isaac. And he put on him the wood that's a stick.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

And he took the stick and brought it to a stone and built an altar with a stick and a stone. Genesis 22 is a picture of Calvary.

[Pastor Michael]

What God can do with a stick and a stone.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

Like Isaac carried the wood, Jesus carried the cross. But the cross was just a stick. And the Bible said,

[Pastor Michael]

I'm about to

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

feel like preaching in a minute. And the Bible said, but Jesus understood the power of the stick. So no man took his life. He laid it down, but he laid it down on a stick. He knew the power of the stick. All through the Old Testament, it has taught us the power of the stick. Elijah sent his stick down to the widow's house to heal her son. There's power in the stick. So Jesus laid down on the stick, and they hung him high. And they stretched him wide. And the Bible said, they drove a nail into his wrist on the right side and the left side. That they took a spike and drove it through both feet, symbolizing the Jew and the Gentile coming together up under one gospel. And they nailed him to the cross. But that ain't the bad part. If they'd have left the cross laying down, I wouldn't have been saved. But they messed up when they lifted it up. Cause the Bible said, if I be lifted up from the earth, I'll draw men unto me. If you're getting some out of this, give him a little praise. Behalf him from the sixth to the ninth hour. They hung him till he hung his head in the locks of his shoulders and died. They hung him and took graves all over Jerusalem began to open up. They hung him until the veil in the temple was rent from the top to the bottom. They hung him to the Old Testament. Fainted over into the New Testament. They hung him until the law was fulfilled. They hung him or didn't they hang him?

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

They hung him. Oh, yeah. Yes.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

They hung him and they hung him till he just gave over to death. He submitted to death the depth of the cross. And he died for your sins. I'm not talking about the sins you testify about. I'm talking about the sins you don't tell nobody about. He died for your secret sins. He died for your private sins. He died for your personal sin. That's why God doesn't understand when you can come out on Easter and not praise God. Because he knows that you know what he did in your life. He knows what the church folk don't know that happened to you. When you was a child, he died for a little bit of this and

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

he died for a little bit of that.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

And he died till it was over.

[Pastor Michael]

Over.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

And he died till it was finished. And he died until he said, tell Telesti it is finished. Slap your neighbor and say it is finished. You can talk about it, but it's finished. You can bring it up, but it's finished. You can roll your eyes but it's finished. You can post, post its but it's finished. When God finishes something, it is finished. Don't expect me to walk around with my head down because I know it's finished. Expect my head to be up. Expect my back to be straight cause I know it's finished. I can come boldly to the throne of grace and find mercy to help me me in the time of need because it is finished. I can get in the house of God and shout like I didn't do what I know I did because it is finished. I wish I had about a hundred people that knew what I was talking about. You got to praise him because you know what he did for you. You know how he delivered you. You know how he set you free. Grab your neighbor one time and say, when I think of the goodness, when I just think about it, When I just think about it, when I think about where he brought me from, when I think about domestic violence, when I think about child abuse, when I think about agony, when I think about eating tomato sandwiches, when I think about eating mayonnaise sandwiches. When I think about the hell he brought me through.

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

My soul, My soul. My soul cries out Hallelujah. Thank God, thank God for saving me.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

Oh, I'm almost finished now. I'm not gonna take up much time. But I feel something pushing me in the back. I feel something stirring in my soul. The Bible says that he borrowed a grave from Joseph of Armapea. But let me understand something here. Anytime you borrow something, you don't plan to stay there. He borrowed it because he only was going to use it for three days. When I came to Earth on June 9, 1957, I borrowed this body cuz I didn't plan to stay here for I know if this earthly house or tabernacle shall be dissolved. I got another building eternal in the heavens somewhere oring Glory. I already understand. Somebody's going to drive my car, somebody's going to wear my clothes, somebody's going to sleep in my bed. But that's all right cuz I just borrowed it. I've got a mansion over in Glory and it's mine yes, it's mine. I got a mansion somewhere beyond the Jordan and it's mine yes, it's mine they took Jesus to a bar tomb and they rolled the stone in front

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

of him and they left him there

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

all day Thursday, all day Friday, all day Saturday But Sunday morning

[Congregation Member (chanting)]

yes,

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

Sunday morning, Sunday morning, Sunday morning Michael Sunday morning, Sunday morning, Sunday morning He got up out of the grave yes it did. He got up out of the grave.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

I never could understand understand how he would later appear in a gardener suit. He didn't get to go to the store, he didn't get to stitch anything but when he rose from the dead he spoke him some clothes into existence. I couldn't understand how he could walk around in the grave because they wrapped him in 1 inch strips of linen and you remember Lazarus had to be loosed but who lose Jesus? He loosed himself. He set himself free

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[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

He spoke in a new clothes into existence and he was walking around in the grave. But it didn't stop there because it's not enough to get out of your grave clothes. It's not enough to wake up out the grave if you're still stuck behind the scene stone. And as I get ready to close, some of you been resurrected but you've been living behind the stone. A stone of doubt, A stone of poverty, A stone of insecurity, A stone of pride, A stone of lust. But the Lord said I'm getting ready to roll the stone out of of the way. I know you're in there. You've been in there a long time trying to praise me behind a stone. But I'm gonna roll the stone out of your way. Slap your neighbor and say, get out of my way. I got to get up out of this grave. I got to get up out of this depression.

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

I got to get up out of

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

this state I'm in. I've got to get up out of this situation.

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

I'm tired of walking around in depression. I'm gonna roll the stone away. Hallelujah. Is there anybody that's got faith in the room?

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

I want you to take your faith

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

and just roll the stone out of your way. God's getting ready to roll the stone out of your way. He's getting ready to move it out of your way so that you can

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

come out of the grave.

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

And when you come out of the

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

grave, you ought to come out praising God.

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

You ought to come out giving God the glory. You ought to come out lifting him up.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

They nail you to a stick. They hid you behind a stone.

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

But God's gonna bring you out of everything they had you locked up behind.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

Who am I preaching to? Somebody that I'm preaching to. Take about 30 seconds and start leaping in the presence of God.

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

Stop. Start leaving. Start leaving. Start leaving till the stone knows he can't hold you. Start leaping till the sickness knows. You gotta turn me aloof. Start leaving till depression comes out of your body. Start leaving till suicide leaves your spirit. Spirit. Start leaping till you get a new joy. Start leaping till you get a new dance. Start leaving. Leap your way out. If you can't leave, then crawl. If you can't call, then walk. But touch seven people and say, I gotta get out of here. I gotta get out of here. I gotta to get out of here. I've been down too long. I gotta get out of here. There's a power that's pulling me out of my situation. Ain't no grave gonna hold my body down. Gravity can't hold me down. Enemies can't hold me down. Situations can't hold me down. Me down. Debt can't hold me down. When God says get up, I'm gonna get up. I'm gonna get up. And the nails can't hold me. I'm gonna get up. And the grave can't hold me. I'm gonna get up and your stairs can't hold me. I'm gonna get up. Roll your eyes, but I'm still gonna get up. Write your notes But I'm still gonna get up. Lord, I feel something about to break

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

loose in this place.

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

If I had a hundred radical people that made up your mind, you're not

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

gonna take it anymore.

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

If I had a hundred radical people that would give God the praise. Something would break in here this morning. Something would break in here this morning. Something would break in here this morning.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

He's stronger than witchcraft.

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

He's stronger than roots.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

He's stronger than Satan.

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

He's stronger than the enemy. He's stronger than trouble. He's stronger than turmoil.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

He's stronger than disease.

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

He's stronger than sickness. Whatever you need from the Lord, he's stronger than that. You ought to break loose from your bands and give God the praise. Leap up and say, he's stronger. He's stronger. He's stronger. He's stronger. He's strong. Stronger. I've been down too long. He's stronger, he's stronger, he's stronger. He's stronger. I don't know what you're gonna do on your pew. But as for me, I'm gonna praise the Lord right in this pew. I'm gonna give him a praise right in this balcony. I'm gonna pray, praise him. Cause something's about to break. Get a lock of my hair. But you can't curse me. Get my DNA. But you can't stop me. Talk about me. But you can't stop me. Because when God says get up. Ain't nothing for me to do. But. But what? Grab your neighbor by the hand and say, neighbor, get up. Get up. God still wants to use you. Get up. God's got something he wants to do. Get up. He still wants to anoint you. Get up. He's got a plan for your life. I'm about to take my seat, but for the next three minutes, I want the wow. Radical. Don't care what I got on, folks. To give God a praise. I'm gonna give you about three minutes to find a way to get up out of your grave. Roll your stone away, pull your nail down your fingers and give God the praise. On your mark. On your mark. Get set, Grow. Grow. I gotta get up. I gotta get up. I gotta get up. I gotta get up,

[Congregation Member (chanting)]

Up. Get up, get up, get up. Get up out of that grave. Get up, get up, get up. Get up out of that grave. Get up, get up, get up. Get up out of that grave. Get up, get up, get up. Get up out of that grave. Get up, get up. Get up. Get up out of that grave. Get up, get up. Get Up. Get up out of that grave. Get up. Get up. Get up. Get up out of that grave. Get up. Get up. Get up. Get up out of that grave. Get up. Get up. Get up.

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

You got one minute. You got one minute left. You got one minute left to give God the praise. You got 45 seconds to give God the praise. You Got 40 seconds to stop worrying about these people and break loose. This is your Sunday to break loose. You got 30 seconds to break everything that held you, everything that tied you up. 20 seconds to give God the glory. I can't hear you.

[Pastor Michael]

Get

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

10, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Give him a praise. Give him a praise. Give him a praise.

[Congregation Member (chanting)]

Glory to your name, O God.

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

The only thing worse

[Pastor Michael]

than being in the grave is to be resurrected and can't get out. To have the know how and the knowledge, but you can't get out.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

You walk so far and you run

[Pastor Michael]

into something and you have to go back and the enemy's got you convinced that that stone in your life cannot be roll away. I don't know what kind of stone it is. It might be a stone of depression, might be a stone of fear. It may be a stone of ptsd, but you hit it every time you try to get out. And so some of you have decided, I'm just going to live in the tomb. But God said no. God said no. Lift your hands for a moment and worship him all over this room. Worship him in spirit and in truth. I see you here on Sunday, Glad to have you. But let's get real for a minute. That stone that's in your life need not stay in your life. That stone that's in your house need not stay in your house. Lift your hands, open your mouth, and if you do like the Egyptians did and cry unto God, he'll move everything

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

out of your way

[Pastor Michael]

to deliver you. You might be watching online, but God

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

will move everything out of your way

[Pastor Michael]

to deliver you.

[Congregation Member/Assistant]

Some of you live behind a rock of pride.

[Pastor Michael]

And your pride has stopped so many blessings from coming in your life. And you hold on to it for dear life because all you've ever done was live behind the wall of your image. But if you give up your image this morning, if you get sick and tired of being sick and tired, if you get to the point that you want to come out of that gr. Early in the morning, the women came down to the tomb to get Jesus where he used to be. And the angels sitting on the stone said, he is not here. He is risen. I can just imagine people coming to where you used to be. And. And the angel says she's not here. She's not here. She's not here. She. I know the girl you're talking about, but she's not here. I know the woman you talking about, but she's not here.

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

I know that brother you're talking about, but he's not here.

[Pastor Michael]

He has risen. I cut my message short because I'm led of the Lord to pray for somebody who wants to rise up out of it, who seriously means. I'm tired of walking around in this tomb surrounded by corpses. I go out to eat with them. I go out to party with them. They come over my house. I'm tired of being around dead things. I'm not talking about them. I don't mean no harm against them, but I'm. I know better. Because he's done too much in my life. For me to live another day in the tombs. If you're in this room and you want out bad enough not to care about your image, you want out bad enough to increase your parameters, enlarge your borders, to have the abundant life that Jesus died for you to have life. He didn't die for you to have church. He died for you to have life. He died for you to have life. You're existing, but you're not living. How many birthdays you think you're gonna have? How many more Christmases you think you're gonna have? You're wasting time. He said, the day you hear my

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

voice harden not your heart.

[Pastor Michael]

This Sunday morning, I don't care who's standing beside you. Tell them, move out of my way. I can't let you be a stone at a moment. That God is trying to work something out in my life and I'm coming. If I got to come out the balcony, I'm coming. If I got to come down the steps, I'm coming. If I got to come out of the corner, I'm coming. If I got to come with liquor on my breath, I'm coming. If I was smoking a joint last night, I'm coming this morning. Because I want a change in my life. Touch your neighbor, tell them stones go roll this morning. Stones are going to roll this morning. Stones are going to roll this morning. They're going to roll this morning they're going to rol. It's God's job to call and it's your job to answer. Now. God is doing his job. Why don't you do yours? Come on, I'll wait on you. You're not going to use me as no excuse. Come,

[Pastor Michael (continued preaching)]

Let me, let me, let me,

[Pastor Michael]

let me, let me, let me, let me, let me make this real clear so you can understand it. When I go into prayer, it's going to be too late for you to come. This. This space we got right here is a grace space. Grace don't last always. Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? God forbid. For if we are buried in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection. And you, having quickened, who were dead in the trespasses of sin, he gave you new life. He gave you something that the drug dealer can't give you, that your chick on the side can't give you. He gave you something that nobody else can give you. And I want you to come. It's a grace space. This is the space that proves that you can't go to heaven. And I mean go and stand before God and say, I never got a chance. This is your opportunity. There is nothing in your life, on your life or in your past, that God cannot forgive. There is nothing on your mind, no matter how hideous or dark it might be, that the word can't penetrate and change your life. There is nothing. There is nothing that's hindering you. He will roll that stone. He will roll that ha. Right out of your way. And there's nothing out there. There's nothing out there but trouble. And they want to come home.

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