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The Premed Years
Hosted by Ryan Gray · EN
If you're struggling on your premed journey, trying to figure out the best way to study for the MCAT, or trying to understand how to best apply to medical school, the award-nominated podcast, The Premed Years, has you covered. From interviews with Admissions Committee members and directors to inspirational stories from those who have gone before you, The Premed Years is like having a premed advisor in your pocket. Subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, or anywhere else you listen to music or podcasts so you don't miss an episode. It's free. Every week. Don't forget to watch us on YouTube, or follow us on Instagram too! We're medicalschoolhq everywhere!
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623: Second-Time Applicant: COVID Delay, Perspective, Acceptance
2w ago00:42:41Tap to summarize(00:00) — Ear cleaning origin: A childhood earwax ritual lights the first spark for medicine.(01:25) — Writer first, then premed: Entering college for writing before finding patient care through EMT work.(02:10) — EMT on campus: Deescalation, student calls, and heavy mental health moments.(03:27) — Suicide hotline: Human-to-human conversations that clarified her desire to be a physician.(04:10) — Medicine vs therapy: Drawn to anatomy and physiology while honoring psych’s importance.(05:45) — Apocalypse-proof skills: Why medicine felt enduring through pandemics, borders, and war.(07:32) — Query-letter essay: How a creative application and workshop hustle shaped her identity.(08:55) — Premed pressure: Cutting hobbies, feeling locked out of creativity, and the regret that followed.(11:31) — The rat race and AMCAS: Hours, comparison culture, and resisting the 15-activity myth.(15:04) — Rest as training: Reframing hobbies as recovery to prevent burnout and learn better.(15:59) — What stood out: Interviews focused on her writing more than her activity count.(18:19) — Reapplying after COVID: Canceled MCAT, delayed app, and an external nudge to pause.(20:01) — Perspective shift: Time off, returning to writing, and no longer feeling behind.(23:11) — Ready the second time: Growth, humility, and being prepared to start medicine.(24:42) — First acceptance: Relief, joy, and finally buying the book she’d saved for that day.(26:02) — Personal statement redo: From listing achievements to writing about who she is.(27:06) — Med school + novels: Supportive team, deadlines, and writing as catharsis.(28:43) — Step 2 vs deadlines: Balancing dedicated study with book edits on a tight schedule.(30:10) — Dark fiction and stakes: Embracing perimortem themes and high-impact care.(32:24) — Pathology curiosity: Autopsies, TV inspirations, and creative crossover.(33:09) — Can students work?: Policy gray areas and being featured regardless.(33:47) — Zero-sum myth: Why gym, games, and hobbies can make you a better learner.(36:24) — Guilt and games: Mario Kart, streaming, and naming the pressure to always study.(37:13) — Permission to be human: Keep your passions—people, not checklists, become doctors.Vanessa’s path to medicine started with a childhood ear-cleaning ritual and grew through college EMT shifts and suicide hotline work that centered real human connection. In this conversation, she and Dr. Gray unpack the premed rat race—the pressure to pack 15 activities, the guilt of cutting hobbies, and the lie that every minute not studying sets you back. Vanessa candidly shares applying twice, including a COVID-canceled MCAT that delayed her first cycle, the external nudge to pause, and the growth and humility that made her ultimately ready to be accepted. She explains how interviews gravitated to her writing, why her second personal statement focused on who she is rather than everything she did, and how she now balances med school with novel deadlines—treating writing as both catharsis and a job, while preparing for Step 2. Along the way: apocalypse-proof humor, a reframe of rest as part of training, and a clear message to premeds and medical students alike—keep the passions that make you human. Because people, not checklists, become doctors.What You'll Learn:- How campus EMT and suicide hotline roles shaped a patient-first “why medicine”- What changed between a late, COVID-impacted first cycle and a successful reapplication- Why focusing your personal statement on who you are can resonate more than listing activities- Practical ways to protect hobbies in premed and med school without burning out- How interviews may lean into your authentic passions—even more than your hours
Transcribe →622: From 495 MCAT to Med School via a Bridge Program
3w ago00:36:41Tap to summarize(00:00) — Welcome and setup: from premed dropout to med student(00:47) — Corporate grind sparks the spreadsheets vs patients question(01:30) — Rewinding to undergrad premed and the 495 MCAT during COVID(03:15) — Finances and first-gen pressure push him off the path(04:35) — Articles, AI, and volunteering rekindle interest in medicine(06:10) — Leadership draw: why physician responsibility appealed to him(07:10) — Timeline: research job, 2018 grad, 2020 MCAT, business analytics at Fordham(09:05) — Undergrad habits, no planner, and managing ADHD with better tools(11:05) — Corporate wins build confidence (Big Four, Wall Street, AVP)(12:50) — Planning the leap: savings, living at home, loans, and side investments(14:10) — Bridge/SMP at Toro Harlem: structure and guaranteed-seat criteria(16:25) — Working at Citibank while starting the master’s; then going all in(17:55) — Confirming fit: brief shadowing, almost passing out, but more intrigued(18:55) — Harlem community events as a student doctor and seeing disparities(19:52) — MCAT retake to 501–502; Kaplan and official full-lengths(21:27) — SMP mirrored M1 exams; Z-score cutoff and comprehensive exam(22:45) — M1 transition is easier after the SMP run-through(23:35) — Logistics: 3.45 GPA + comp exam = seat; could apply elsewhere(24:25) — Starting a tea franchise in Astoria with partners during M1(25:35) — Brick-and-mortar stress, construction, and opening mid-semester(26:50) — Hardest part: letting go of a six-figure salary(28:05) — Would he change his path? Choosing experience over speed(29:20) — Exploring passions helps future practice and options(30:52) — Keeping doors open: medicine, consulting, and business(31:28) — Parents’ reaction: skepticism to tears of pride(32:34) — Final advice: build confidence and believe in yourselfZarak shares how he walked away from premed after a 495 MCAT and an average undergrad GPA, chased a thriving corporate career, and then found his way back to medicine. A first-gen student, he talks openly about family expectations, finances, and why spreadsheets and commutes couldn’t replace patient impact. He explains the planning that made his return possible: saving while living at home, using loans wisely, and enrolling in a one-year bridge/SMP at Toro Harlem that mirrored M1 exams and offered a guaranteed seat with a 3.45 GPA plus a comprehensive exam. He retook the MCAT to around 501–502 using Kaplan and official full-lengths, and found confidence through improved study systems and corporate-built habits. Now an M1, he’s volunteering in Harlem, reflecting on health disparities, and even launching a brick-and-mortar tea franchise in Astoria with partners—while keeping med school first. Dr. Gray and Zarak dig into letting go of a six-figure salary, rebuilding confidence, managing ADHD with better tools, and why exploring interests outside of medicine can strengthen your future as a physician.What You'll Learn:- How a low MCAT and average GPA didn’t end his med school goals- What a guaranteed-seat bridge/SMP at Toro Harlem required- How he planned the leap: savings, loans, and timing while working- MCAT retake resources he used the second time around- Balancing M1 demands with launching a brick-and-mortar business
Transcribe →621: Balancing 21 Credits and a Paycheck: Making Premed Work
4w ago00:41:13Tap to summarize(00:00) — Early spark for medicine: Jasmine’s childhood curiosity and desire to help takes root at age four or five.(02:40) — High school split focus: AP sciences vs. seven-hour show choir and a one-week summer health program.(03:55) — Choosing Howard: Proximity to a hospital/med school and an open-door culture sealed the decision.(05:15) — Major, minor, and momentum: Biology major, chemistry minor, and 40 COVID credits accelerate progress.(06:40) — The hardest part: Juggling 21 credits—including biochem and orgo—while working left her exhausted.(07:30) — Working to afford school: From food service to barista to the gym, she logged 26–40 hours weekly.(09:10) — Intentional time use: Doing homework during/after class and finishing tasks before they lingered.(10:40) — When it became too much: Princeton Review course, burnout, and a first MCAT score worse than practice.(13:20) — Regrouping the plan: Graduating early, studying Jan–Apr, and defining a target MCAT within context.(15:15) — Mindset after a bad score: Grieving the disrupted timeline and pausing to finish strong in undergrad.(17:20) — The timeline trap: Why gap years feel scary and Dr. Gray’s note that 75% take one.(19:50) — Building without connections: Deep website research, spreadsheets, and avoiding Reddit/SDN noise.(23:10) — Doors opened by advising: Programs that delivered mentorship and free MCAT materials.(25:00) — School list and interviews: 22 applications (20 MD, 2 DO), a DO fair, and six interviews.(28:00) — First invites and first A: Riding the wave of early interviews and an acceptance during homecoming.(31:20) — Med school reality: First year was brutal, second year harder, and memorization no longer enough.(34:20) — Final encouragement: Keep going, dream big, and be realistic about the path that gets you there.Jasmine shares a candid, practical look at making premed work when time and money are tight. She discovered medicine early, chose Howard University for its hospital and medical school access, and powered through a biology major and chemistry minor—accelerating with 40 credits during COVID. Meanwhile, she worked 26–40 hours a week in food service, as a barista, and at the gym, all while managing 20–21 credit semesters that included biochem and orgo. When a burnout-fueled first MCAT score came in below any practice test, she grieved the lost timeline, graduated early, and reset: January to April dedicated MCAT prep, a clear “good enough” score target based on her strong GPA, and an application strategy built on deep DIY research and school-by-school spreadsheets (not Reddit or SDN). She applied to 22 schools, earned six interview invites, and celebrated her first acceptance during homecoming. Now in medical school, she reflects on why second year felt even harder than first and how shifting from memorizing to true understanding changed everything. Dr. Gray and Jasmine unpack the pressure of timelines, the reality that many students take gap years, and how to keep moving forward when plans change.What You'll Learn:- How to balance heavy course loads with paid work- Handling a disappointing MCAT and deciding when to retake- Setting a “good enough” MCAT score in context of GPA- Building school lists and opportunities without connections- Why medical school study demands differ from undergrad
Transcribe →620: Four MCAT Retakes and Still Standing Strong!
Apr 2900:46:47Tap to summarize(00:00) — Avoiding medicine to committing at 22: Sports injuries, engineering Cs, and a hospital trauma that made medicine click.(03:06) — Doubting smart enough: Imposter syndrome, scraping through chem, and possible ADHD.(06:50) — Growing up around violence: Valuing life early and pushing through school and sport.(08:50) — Living in the moment: Lists, weekly survival, and triaging tough neuro topics.(09:45) — Hug the bear: A 15-second resilience mindset from officer training.(11:47) — Perspective check: Why complain about what you prayed for?(14:14) — The four-time MCAT: Premature first attempt, COVID setbacks, and stubborn determination.(16:50) — Study your way: Blueprints, not rules—Anki, repetition, and long-term memory.(19:51) — After a denied cycle: Interviews, honest feedback, and a biomedical sciences master’s with a 3.89.(23:54) — Applying for fit: Targeting schools that accept Black and Brown students and choose your poison.(25:15) — The acceptance email: A surprise Charles Drew admit and all the emotions.(27:17) — MD vs DO vs UAG: Weighing Iowa against family and support in Guadalajara.(28:52) — Med school’s dark side: Stress, sleep debt, and hair loss alongside joy.(31:18) — Commuting to cut costs: EV free charging, 6:20 a.m. departures, and parking lot naps.(33:45) — Rotations on a budget: Housing ideas and staying flexible.(34:25) — Some call them illegal—I call them mom and dad: Caring for patients and family amid fear and hate.(37:20) — Control what you can: Social media backlash, gratitude notes, and missing Obama.(42:02) — Final advice: Step 1 focus and why it’s not failure until you quit.Richard didn’t run straight toward medicine. He tried kinesiology, engineering until Calc III said no, and three years in pharmacy before a volunteer shift at a children’s hospital trauma bay flipped the switch. In this candid conversation, he shares how a B/C student with a 3.3 GPA, possible ADHD, and mounting imposter syndrome found a way forward by focusing on surviving one week at a time.Richard opens up about taking the MCAT four times, what went wrong early (including testing before biochem), and the discipline, repetition, and resource fit he had to build. After a denied cycle with interviews, he strengthened his academic record with a biomedical sciences master’s (33 units, 3.89) and applied to schools aligned with mission and representation. He describes the unexpected acceptance email from Charles R. Drew, the pull of family support as he weighed UAG versus a DO option in Iowa, and why mental health and community had to factor into his decision.We also get real about med school’s costs and stress: commuting to save money with free EV charging, 6:20 a.m. departures, parking lot naps, and the not-so-glam side of hair loss and fatigue. Richard closes with grounded advice for retakers and those who don’t see themselves in medicine yet.What You'll Learn:- How a hospital volunteer trauma experience cemented Richard’s path to medicine- Ways to manage imposter syndrome and build study systems that fit you- What changed across four MCAT attempts and during a biomedical sciences master’s- How to target schools for mission and representation while balancing costs and support
Transcribe →619: Targeted List: 12 Schools, 2 Interviews, 2 Acceptances
Apr 2200:38:16Tap to summarize(00:00) — Family roots and Flint crisis: Medicine in the house, art dreams, and volunteering during Flint’s water crisis point Omar toward health.(02:00) — Why physician, not just public health: Leadership and impact pull him to the MD path.(03:30) — Mentors and mission work: Seeing overseas service in Sudan clarifies what medicine can do.(04:55) — Did family help? Inspiration, yes; U.S. application route, not so much.(06:30) — No campus advisor: Upperclassmen guidance and the MCAT becoming the main hurdle.(08:45) — Building focus for the MCAT: First practice test, CARS timing drills, and trusting the process.(11:10) — The 528 mindset: A cousin’s daily encouragement keeps him from quitting.(12:40) — Starts, stops, and locking a date: Deferrals end when he commits to a test day.(15:05) — Gap years with purpose: Moving for family, AmeriCorps service with ESL youth and a citizenship clinic.(17:10) — Writing “Why Medicine”: Owning family influence instead of hiding it.(19:10) — A focused school list: 12 applications by location lead to two interviews.(22:05) — Interview prep without advising: Mock interviews with peers, strangers, and SNMA resources.(25:40) — The email that changed everything: A 9-day acceptance and celebrating with his cousin.(27:50) — Choosing a school: Family proximity and finances over DC.(25:40) — Biggest regret: Wishing he’d built stronger study habits earlier.(28:00) — Med school pace: Pomodoro, Anki, and 2 a.m. anatomy labs make it doable.(32:00) — What he’d change: Application and test fees, and using fee assistance.(34:40) — Final words: Stay locked in, believe you belong, and aim high.Omar didn’t rush into medicine—even with a nephrologist dad and physician relatives. In high school, moving to Michigan during the Flint water crisis put him in the middle of public health work distributing water, which opened his eyes to health disparities. He wrestled with whether to stay in public health or become a physician, ultimately choosing medicine for its leadership and direct impact. Without a premed advisor on campus, he relied on upperclassmen, peers, and later SNMA for support. The MCAT was his biggest hurdle: a COVID-disrupted prep course, multiple false starts, and a hard reset on discipline and focus. He rebuilt from the ground up—starting with a baseline practice test, CARS timing drills, and accountability from a cousin who insisted he aim high. Gap years followed, shaped by family health needs and an AmeriCorps role serving ESL youth and a citizenship clinic. Omar’s personal statement clicked only when he stopped hiding his family’s influence and wrote honestly. He applied to 12 schools by location, earned two interviews, and received an email acceptance in nine days. He chose a school closer to family and with better finances. In med school, Pomodoro, Anki—and friends in 2 a.m. anatomy labs—keep him going, and he’s candid about application costs and fee assistance options.What You'll Learn:- Turning MCAT overwhelm into a plan: baseline test, CARS timing, and discipline- How to prep interviews without a campus advisor using peers, strangers, and SNMA- Writing an authentic “Why Medicine” even with family in medicine- Making gap years count with service, growth, and purposeful timing- Weighing school choices by location, family, and finances
Transcribe →618: Mission Fit Over Metrics: What This Dean Looks For
Mar 2501:00:17Tap to summarize(00:00) — Meet Dr. Leila Amiri + her route from peer advising to admissions: How a peer advising job led to a career shaping medical school classes.(03:20) — What’s stayed the same—and why the “black box” persists: Core expectations endure while parts of the process remain opaque.(05:07) — Transparency hurdles: politics, misreads, and legal fears: Why some schools don’t publish every detail of their process.(07:15) — Why post‑interview feedback is rare (and how to self-assess): The limits schools face and signs you missed a question in MMIs.(08:11) — 11,609 apps, 124 seats: why the interview matters most: With 615 interviews, only those ready for acceptance get invited.(11:17) — Yield protection explained from the admissions side: It’s about fit and likelihood to attend—not punishing strong applicants.(13:20) — Mission fit at Vermont: service days and first‑patient reflections: Orientation includes community service and reflective small groups.(16:42) — Are you applying to too many schools? Build a focused list: Why 15–20 targeted schools can beat 80 scattershot applications.(21:12) — Beyond stats: read curriculum and support to find fit: Use MSAR plus curriculum and student services to gauge alignment.(23:41) — Metrics as support signals; what high‑average schools expect: Numbers show what a school can support and how students are taught.(25:32) — Federal loan caps: what schools are doing right now: Private lenders, institutional loans, and alumni support are in motion.(27:23) — Private lenders, school loans, deferrals, and SES concerns: Credit checks, tuition delays, and worries about equity.(33:54) — Practice‑for‑service funding and contacting legislators: State partnerships and student advocacy as possible solutions.(34:57) — Reapplying after an acceptance: what schools can see: Prior‑applicant flags and the national matriculant list—no blacklist.(41:31) — AI’s potential to reshape preclinical and expand training: Imagining remote preclinical work and more community training sites.(49:00) — Who thrives at Vermont: team‑based, pass‑only, community‑minded: No “gunners,” active learning, weather reality, and CT campus perks.(52:30) — Connecticut campus: community hospitals and one‑on‑one teaching: Smaller teams, more direct attending interactions, mixed-school learners.(54:35) — Final advice: be true to yourself and repair academics wisely: Fix GPA with science coursework, consider service scholarships, and persist."You’ll hear why true transparency is hard (politics, misinterpretation, legal fears), why post‑interview feedback is rare, and how to self‑assess if an MMI station didn’t land. Dr. Amiri discusses the federal loan cap landscape and what schools are doing now: identifying trusted private lenders, tapping institutional loans and alumni support, deferrals, and practice‑for‑service pathways. She also dispels blacklist myths for reapplicants and imagines how AI and remote preclinical work could expand physician training. If you’re building a school list, reapplying, or worrying about financing, this is a clear‑eyed, student‑first roadmap.What You'll Learn:- Why interviews carry so much weight—and how to read your own performance- What yield protection really is and how mission fit influences invites- How to build a smarter school list beyond MCAT/GPA medians- Current financing moves schools are making amid federal loan caps- Who thrives at Vermont’s team‑based, pass‑only program
Transcribe →617: Five MCAT Attempts, No Plan B: Maya’s Path to Med School
Mar 1800:46:10Tap to summarize(00:00) — Opening and early spark: Maya recalls childhood, cultural expectations, and her mom’s cancer shaping her why.(03:05) — High school full circle: Research at Dana-Farber and reading her mom’s records makes medicine click.(04:26) — ER simulation at Midscience: Realizing she could do this for real.(05:38) — MCAT dread and doubt: Nights staring at the ceiling, wondering if this path is for her.(06:45) — Post-grad without a net: Losing structure, studying alone, and deciding to invest in resources.(08:30) — Choosing community wisely: Avoiding toxic premed circles and building supportive friendships.(10:20) — Leaving campus support: How being outside university systems complicates the process.(11:20) — Three gap years: Cold-emailing a CEO, first job, and early adulting lessons.(12:50) — Why delay med school: Living life, tough East Coast costs, and embracing gap years.(14:15) — Strong application foundation: SNMA, BSU, hospital volunteering, and shadowing.(15:10) — MCAT timing talk: Advisor guidance and taking it when you’re ready.(16:50) — Grace and the long view: “Med school isn’t going anywhere” and an AI aside.(18:10) — Family reactions: Easing mom’s worries about multiple gap years.(18:55) — No plan B: Knowing it was time to return and pursue medicine fully.(20:15) — Rebuilding the app: Mentors, letters, and becoming a medical assistant.(21:55) — Five MCAT attempts: Why she didn’t quit.(23:20) — Faith and mentorship: The SNMA-matched surgeon in Alabama and tangible support.(26:50) — Pipeline cutoff reality: Missing by one point and reapplying 3–4 cycles.(28:50) — First interview at last: Spreadsheet tracking and the scream heard at home.(31:46) — Two-day acceptance: Shock, gratitude, and a family celebration.(36:56) — Paying it forward: Using social media to help students.(38:15) — Step 1 mindset: Starting early, NBME check-ins, and defeating fear.(41:05) — Final advice: Take time, find mentors, and invest in yourself.Maya joins Dr. Gray to share a candid look at persistence when the MCAT and the application cycle don’t go your way—again and again. Growing up in an African family and watching her mom battle cancer set her sights on medicine early. In high school, working on research at Dana-Farber and reading her mom’s records brought everything full circle, and an ER simulation at Midscience at Harvard made the dream feel real.After college, losing the structure and community she relied on made studying for the MCAT alone brutal. Maya ultimately invested in resources, leaned on supportive friends, and found mentors—including a plastic surgeon she met through SNMA who even helped fund tutoring. She took three gap years, built meaningful clinical experience as a medical assistant, and weathered 3–4 application cycles. After five MCAT attempts and a pipeline cutoff missed by one point, she finally broke through—landing 6–8 interviews and her first acceptance just two days after an interview.Now in medical school, Maya is intentional about confidence and early Step 1 prep, while using social media to support students coming behind her. This episode is a blueprint for rebuilding structure, choosing community wisely, and giving yourself permission not to quit.What You'll Learn:- How to rebuild structure and community after leaving college- What changed after five MCAT attempts and multiple cycles- Using mentors and groups like SNMA/MAPS to open doors- Turning gap years into real clinical growth as a medical assistant- A confidence-first mindset for Step 1 and beyond
Transcribe →616: Inside DO Admissions: What the Osteopathic World Wants You to Know
Mar 1100:48:11Tap to summarize(00:00) — Welcome and origin story: Kyle’s path into med ed without being a physician(00:46) — Early admissions work and philosophy: get students into—and out of—med school(02:58) — What AACOM’s VP of UME Services does: support across 71 DO locations(04:48) — Admitted-to-M1 is hard: student services and reps supporting the transition(05:12) — Time in the DO space: Marian start and osteopathic focus since 2018(06:38) — Biggest shift: single match and what’s improved (and what hasn’t)(10:07) — USMLE vs COMLEX: bias, requirements, and what applicants should weigh(12:33) — Data points: general surgery study, plus primary care ~55% context(16:51) — Advocacy update: the FAIR Act and reporting for federally funded programs(20:17) — The DO deposit debate: amounts, rationale, and potential changes(25:32) — Should you apply to DO schools? Choose by fit, curriculum, and support(31:01) — AACOMAS streamlining: 700-character experiences and tech to cut tedium(33:56) — Personal statements: copy/paste and when to add DO-specific experience(38:03) — Financial aid shift: Grad PLUS elimination and new student resources(40:19) — School-backed loans and lender partnerships: protecting students(43:40) — Final takeaways: faculty support, fit, and thriving as a DO or MDDr. Ryan Gray welcomes Kyle Hattenberg, AACOM’s VP of Undergraduate Medical Education Services, for a practical look at DO admissions, advocacy, and student support. Kyle explains his new role supporting 71 osteopathic locations, including work on AACOMAS and student services to smooth the admitted-to-M1 transition. They unpack the single match era, persistent USMLE/COMLEX bias, and how AACOM is pushing for equal consideration—highlighting the FAIR Act, which would require federally funded programs to report on accepting and reviewing both DO and MD applicants.They tackle hot-button issues like nonrefundable deposits ($1,500–$3,000), why schools use them, and ongoing conversations about change—plus Kyle’s advice to contact schools for hardship considerations. Kyle previews AACOMAS streamlining, including aligning the experience section to 700 characters and leveraging technology to reduce tedious data entry. He clarifies personal statement strategy and when DO-specific experiences belong. Finally, they address the elimination of the Grad PLUS loan, with AACOM building financial wellness resources, hiring dedicated support, and exploring partnerships, while noting that some schools already offer school-backed loans. The episode closes with guidance to choose schools based on fit, curriculum, and support—because thriving in medical school comes first.What You'll Learn:- How AACOM supports applicants and 71 osteopathic locations- What the single match means for DOs and where bias persists- FAIR Act goals and what programs may need to report- Upcoming AACOMAS tweaks, including 700-character activities- Deposit realities, Grad PLUS changes, and funding options
Transcribe →615: Why His Application ‘Made Sense’—and Scored 16 Interviews
Mar 400:35:20Tap to summarize(00:00) — Late to medicine: Chris didn’t consider being a doctor until college, shaped by early family experiences with inadequate care.(01:20) — Struggling student to UC Davis: He describes a nontraditional path and surprise at earning a single college acceptance.(02:50) — “You won’t amount to much”: A sixth-grade dismissal and falling in with the wrong crowd set the stage.(04:40) — Misdiagnosed and othered: Labeled with severe ADD, placed in special education, later correctly diagnosed with a comprehension disability.(06:25) — Not going the other way: He credits his mother’s advocacy and a teacher, Mr. Russell, for keeping him engaged.(09:00) — College reset and new peers: A friend shares MD-PhD resources and expands his horizon.(10:35) — Outreach program to research home: A scholars program places him in a lab with a PI for four formative years.(11:50) — On DEI and mentors: He reflects on access programs and the impact of Dr. Connie Champagne.(13:50) — First OR spark: Shadowing an orthopedic surgeon shows him the excitement of patient care beyond pipetting.(15:40) — Sustaining motivation: Reframing medicine as a currency for service and asking who do I want to be?(17:50) — Community and advocacy: He discusses serving Indigenous communities and advocating on the Hill for GME in Indian country.(20:50) — Crafting the Why: How deep reflection and post-it mapping shaped his personal statement.(21:55) — Why MD-PhD: An MD-PI at a summer program shows how medical training sharpens research questions.(23:30) — First interview relief: Landing an invite during the COVID cycle felt like validation.(24:45) — Strategy and scope: 23 applications, West Coast focus, MSTP and non-MSTP programs.(26:00) — Coherence wins: A clear why plus tangible research output made his application click.(27:45) — Multiple acceptances: He recalls the emotions of earning 9–10 offers.(28:40) — To students doubting themselves: Separate self-worth from others’ opinions and keep going.(31:20) — What’s next: Interest in dermatology residency and leading a lab studying skin disease mechanisms.Chris never planned on medicine. Growing up in Southern California, he saw family members with preventable disease go uncared for, struggled in school, and was misdiagnosed with severe ADD in middle school before a later diagnosis of a comprehension disability. After being told in sixth grade he wouldn’t amount to much, a continuation school, his mother’s advocacy, and a teacher’s attention kept him afloat.At UC Davis, an outreach email changed everything, placing him in a lab for four years and opening the door to both science and medicine. A friend introduced him to MD-PhD resources, and shadowing an orthopedic surgeon turned interest into excitement. Chris shares how he built an enduring motivation by reframing medicine as a currency for service, with a commitment to community, including Indigenous communities.He breaks down the hardest premed task—articulating Why Medicine—and the post-it exercise that helped him find a coherent thread. Applying during the first COVID cycle, he earned 16 interview invites and 9–10 acceptances by presenting a clear why and tangible research work. We also discuss advocacy for more GME positions in Indian country and his interest in dermatology and leading a lab.If you’ve ever been told you won’t make it, this conversation offers practical ways to keep going.What You'll Learn:- How a misdiagnosis and school setbacks were addressed and reframed- Ways to access research and mentorship through outreach programs- A practical method to build a coherent Why Medicine- What made his MD-PhD application make sense and earn 16 interviews- Using community and advocacy to sustain motivation
Transcribe →614: ADHD, Anxiety, and the MCAT: Getting Help, Getting In
Feb 1800:47:36Tap to summarize(00:00) — Opening + Early Spark: PBS Nova lights up neuroscience and a reluctant interest in medicine.(01:11) — Family Expectations vs Autonomy: Pressure from a physician dad meets teenage rebellion.(02:38) — Why the Brain: Linking biology to behavior and people.(03:51) — MD vs PhD: Lab work that kept pointing back to patients.(05:19) — Learning the Process: What help a physician parent could and couldn’t give.(06:54) — College Uncertainty: Pre-reqs without a clear why.(08:12) — OChem Walls: A D, COVID retake, and imposter syndrome.(10:16) — Asking for Help: An advisor’s belief and an ADHD nudge.(12:46) — Retaking Again: Why OChem came back during the gap year.(13:39) — Owning It in Interviews: Explaining GPA discrepancies.(16:03) — Finding the Why in Clinic: Psychometrist work reframes the grind.(18:06) — Gap Years Multiply: Burnout, scribing, and a reset on plans.(20:03) — MCAT Long Game: Planning pitfalls and voiding the first test.(24:16) — Treat the Test Taker: Support, therapy, and ADHD/anxiety diagnosis.(27:02) — Accommodations Talk: The policy gap that hurts late-diagnosed students.(31:16) — Secondaries Crunch: No prewriting, 50 schools, heavy lift.(33:06) — First Interview Joy: Late-cycle invitations and renewed hope.(36:11) — Enjoying Interviews: Validation, calm, and showing up as yourself.(37:36) — First Acceptance Jitters: Legacy doubt and social media nuance.(39:42) — Choosing a School: In-state fit, family proximity, and finances.(41:03) — Med School Life: Hard and fun, community and decompression.(42:50) — Make the Time: Gym, therapy, friends, and sustainable studying.(43:24) — Final Encouragement: If it’s meant for you, adjust and keep going.Chauncella shares how a middle-school fascination with neuroscience grew into a conviction to practice medicine—despite family pressure, self-doubt, and some very real hurdles. We dig into an OChem D, retakes across COVID, and the imposter syndrome that kept Chauncella from asking for help. A supportive advisor opened the door to evaluate ADHD, and during gap years Chauncella’s psychometrist role made the patient impact feel undeniable. The MCAT became another turning point: inconsistent planning, test-day anxiety, and ultimately voiding the first attempt led to addressing mental health, receiving ADHD/anxiety diagnoses, and finally moving forward with clarity. Chauncella applied once to about 50 schools without prewriting secondaries, still earning seven interviews—many later in the cycle than expected—and learning to enjoy the process. The first acceptance brought complex “legacy” feelings, but subsequent offers and an in-state choice close to family brought confidence and fit. Now in pre-clinicals, Chauncella prioritizes balance—making time for the gym, therapy, and friends—to sustain the work. This conversation offers practical takeaways on asking for help, reframing setbacks, navigating timelines, and holding onto your why.What You'll Learn:- How to turn OChem setbacks and an MCAT void into momentum- Why addressing ADHD/anxiety can change your study and test strategy- Using gap years for clinical clarity and strengthening your application- Approaching interviews with calm, authenticity, and confidence- Choosing a school with fit, proximity, and finances in mind
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