Green & Black

Summary

The Read Podcast Episode Summary: "Green & Black"

Podcast Information:

• Title: The Read
• Hosts: Kid Fury and Crissle
• Network: Loud Speakers Network
• Release Date: December 5, 2024
• Description: A weekly podcast where Kid Fury and Crissle dissect hip-hop and pop culture with humor and sharp commentary, while also navigating life in New York City.

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1. "Roundtable" Game Show Craze

Timestamp: [01:44] - [02:37]

Kid Fury kicks off the episode by expressing his enthusiasm for the "Roundtable" game show hosted by Chase and Mellow Studios. He describes it as an "on-air therapy session" that provides him with "peace and tranquility."

• Kid Fury: "This is the best thing that's ever happened to me. It is like everything that I need right now." ([01:48])

Crissle reacts with her trademark humor, calling Fury's excitement "cringe" but acknowledges the show's hilarity.

2. Personal Lives: Crissle's Baby and Dog Expenses

Timestamp: [04:04] - [07:06]

Crissle shares her joy about her growing baby girl and the unique advent calendar filled with treats, contrasting it with the more traditional adult-filled versions.

• Crissle: "She's just getting so big and so smart. She has an advent calendar, so every morning we open her advent calendar for the day and see what new treats she has." ([04:04])

The conversation shifts to their pets, with Kid Fury humorously lamenting the high cost of his dog’s bed compared to his own mattress.

• Kid Fury: "Link's dog bed costs more than my mattress, and that is a shame." ([04:48])

3. Mental Health and Coping with Depression

Timestamp: [07:06] - [09:43]

Both hosts delve into their personal struggles with mental health, discussing feelings of exhaustion, depletion, and seasonal depression. Kid Fury reflects on his desire to rest and escape through anime and video games.

• Kid Fury: "I just want to sit in this bed and I just want to watch anime and play my PlayStation for, like, two days." ([08:09])

Crissle emphasizes the importance of seeking healthier coping mechanisms, such as exercising and getting adequate sleep.

• Crissle: "Get your sleep and all that." ([09:34])

4. Celebrating Black Excellence and Hollywood Honors

Timestamp: [11:03] - [13:42]

The hosts congratulate actress Kerry Washington on receiving a Hollywood star on the Walk of Fame, praising her contributions and the cultural significance of such honors.

• Kid Fury: "Kerry Washington will be honored with a Hollywood star on the Walk of Fame. Yay." ([11:03])

They discuss the representation of Black excellence in Hollywood, highlighting Issa Rae's new restaurant lounge as a celebration of community and progress.

• Crissle: "Ms. Issa Rae, who's opened a brand new restaurant lounge... It's a lovely community." ([12:25])

5. Pop Culture Segment: Deep Dive into "Wicked" Musical

Timestamp: [17:22] - [58:08]

A. Overview of the "Wicked" Musical Adaptation

Kid Fury and Crissle engage in an extensive analysis of the "Wicked" musical and its recent movie adaptation. They explore themes of racism, classism, and the portrayal of marginalized characters.

• Kid Fury: "It's about racism, classism. It's about political propaganda, censorship." ([26:32])

B. Character Analysis: Elphaba and Glinda

The hosts discuss the casting choices, particularly the decision to present Elphaba as a Black character, adding depth to her struggle and experiences.

• Crissle: "Ms. Pau... He was like, I see you... A dope way to give back to his community." ([13:42] - [15:17])

They critique Glinda's portrayal by Ariana Grande, noting her focus on popularity and superficial charm, contrasting it with Elphaba's deeper emotional journey.

• Kid Fury: "Ariana's Glinda was kind of like she took like a smidgen of the kookiness back and added like frustration and agitation." ([36:49])

C. Emotional and Thematic Impact

The conversation highlights pivotal scenes that emphasize Elphaba's internal struggles and Glinda's redemption, appreciating Cynthia Erivo's emotional performance.

• Crissle: "Cynthia Erivo's ability to invoke emotion and humanity within acting and singing is unheard of." ([28:46])

6. Kendrick Lamar’s New Album and Controversies

Timestamp: [71:52] - [107:32]

A. Album Release and Initial Reactions

Kid Fury and Crissle discuss the surprise release of Kendrick Lamar's latest album, noting its brevity and profound impact.

• Crissle: "Kendrick put an album out and I said, I'm already played it. I've already listened to the whole thing." ([71:52])

B. Analysis of Specific Tracks and Music Videos

They delve into specific tracks like "Man at the Garden," "Defying Gravity," and "GNX," praising the lyrical depth and production quality.

• Kid Fury: "Defying Gravity is absolutely... I love the melody and the production are very pretty." ([49:55])

C. Legal Issues and Industry Impact

The hosts touch upon the controversies surrounding Kendrick Lamar, including lawsuits from UMG over alleged streaming manipulations.

• Crissle: "UMG says it is offensive and untrue that they did not actually falsely pump up the popularity of this song on Spotify and other streaming sites." ([75:16])

7. Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up

Timestamp: [107:32] - [117:25]

As the episode concludes, Kid Fury and Crissle reflect on their discussions about "Wicked" and Kendrick Lamar's album. They express excitement for future episodes and upcoming projects, including the "Roundtable" game show and endorsing various sponsors.

• Kid Fury: "I'm proud of myself." ([116:33])
• Crissle: "We have Wicked and GNX." ([117:17])

They thank their listeners and encourage engagement through social media and merchandise, signing off with their characteristic blend of humor and camaraderie.

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Notable Quotes:

• Kid Fury: "This is the best thing that's ever happened to me. It is like everything that I need right now." ([01:48])
• Crissle: "She's just getting so big and so smart. She has an advent calendar..." ([04:04])
• Kid Fury: "Link's dog bed costs more than my mattress, and that is a shame." ([04:48])
• Crissle: "Get your sleep and all that." ([09:34])
• Kid Fury: "It's about racism, classism. It's about political propaganda, censorship." ([26:32])
• Crissle: "Cynthia Erivo's ability to invoke emotion and humanity within acting and singing is unheard of." ([28:46])

Conclusion: In this episode of "The Read," Kid Fury and Crissle blend their sharp cultural critiques with personal anecdotes, offering listeners a mix of humor, insightful commentary on media representations, and candid discussions about mental health. Their deep dive into "Wicked" and Kendrick Lamar's new album showcases their ability to analyze complex themes while maintaining an engaging and entertaining dialogue.

Transcript

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Happy because if I Dwayne Johnson in the butt. Did I hit rock bott? Mm, mm, mm, mm, mm. Technically, you lost. Hey, guys, I'm T. Sanders.

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And I'm Clara Luper. And this is the Read. Thanks for coming back.

[A]

Yes, it is. It is the Read. And unfortunately not the Roundtable. Listen, I. This is the best thing that's ever happened to me. It is like everything that I need right now. If y'all have not watched the Roundtable game show, please take a peek over to YouTube. It's still free. Chase and Mellow Studios. Go give them a Follow a Like a subscribe these. These people are giving me a peace and a tranquility and a. And an a metaphorical. Almost like a metaphorical bassinet is in motion.

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Wow, that is quite the cringe.

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Because first of all, it's hilarious.

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It is.

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For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, it's a group of black women and enbys who get together and each come up with fake deep quotes. Sometimes they're just dad jokes, mom jokes, I guess. And the challenge is not to laugh, but you have to affirm the quote with it. And that part like the comfort of black women going, mm, yeah, work Lane. So like, that's not my dog.

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That's the neighbor dog. Laney, do not do all that.

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I know that's right.

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Laney, do not do all that. I'm playing that with her little short ass. Shit.

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Lenny was like, that dog is pronounced. That sounded like it was from the other end.

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Yeah, yeah, cuz like, that's the dog. I told y'all about that live across the hall and nobody is allowed to be in the hallway.

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So the One next to me. Anyways, the show is hilarious.

[B]

Very funny. Very funny.

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They're so. I can't get enough of it. It's all I'm watching right now. Well, how are you?

[B]

I'm fine. Still obsessed with my little baby girl. She's just getting so big and so smart. She has an advent calendar, so every morning we open her advent calendar for the day and see what new treats she has.

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So those are cute.

[B]

Yeah, that's.

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Usually they're filled with alcohol and getting to people who have problems with that. So this is a much. This is a much nicer version of an adventure.

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Yeah. She got peanut butter macaroons today, so. Big fan. Big fan.

[A]

I want a peanut butter macaroon. Why do we do this to them? Listen, they have.

[B]

I looked at the ingredients. I'm like, this looks good. Like, nothing in this said dog to me.

[A]

Link's dog bed costs more than my mattress, and that is a shame. And she sleeps in my mattress.

[B]

See, so you fucked up twice, then.

[A]

Two times. Why does she have a Versace bed?

[B]

Why does she have a Versace bed?

[A]

Because she's linked.

[B]

Lady does not have a. Well, I was about to say she don't have a Versace nothing. But she does have the little robe. But that's for our Christmas pictures. But that's it. But that's it. The matching Versace robes is all we're doing. She's not getting nothing else. That is designer. I'm not playing with her. I'm not. No. I refuse to spend because I saw them prices because rich people texted me and was like, look at this, look at this. I'm not spending $2,000 on a dog bed. You niggas have lost it.

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I stopped. She got about three Gucci outfits. I was just like, okay, what? For what? You don't even like clothes.

[B]

Like, okay, I'm fighting with Laney now with these little 5, 10, $20 sweaters that I be finding, like. And she's still growing, so.

[A]

No. There is one sweater. She has like a nice. And it's like a nice classic Gucci sweater that she really does like.

[B]

Okay.

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Cause when I. If I take it out, she'll be like, ugh, put it on. And she chills with it, but it's like a wool maybe, so maybe she just likes the way it feels.

[B]

Yeah, Lainey only likes the cream colored cashmere sweater that she has. I mean, it's cashmere, right? The rest of them, she's like, I.

[A]

I'd put it on.

[B]

Don't need Right. I don't need this. Oh, my gosh. She wore her raincoat for the first time the other day. So cute. My baby girl. Yeah. So we're good. You know, she's coming to Texas with me for Christmas. I'm nervous about this flight situation, but.

[A]

I have to take her to Florida.

[B]

Christ, I'm just glad I have a dog small enough to fly with me because I can't imagine not spending Christmas with her. So how are you? You looking good in your wig and your camisole. Congratulations on finishing the tour.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Big accomplishment.

[A]

I. To answer your question, I told Candace I believe I'm an odd mix of happy and dead inside.

[B]

Okay.

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And compared to when I'm on average miserable and dead inside, I'm like, heck, word, right?

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Literally, I'm like. I.

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Look at that.

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I'm seeing the glasses. Half.

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Same.

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Okay, great.

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Same.

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Great.

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It just means we've got work to do and questions to answer. Yeah, but, girl, I've never been more tired. I've never felt more depleted. I've never been more drained. And now I'm at this point where. And then also, like, seasonal depression and all this stuff.

[B]

Oh, yeah, it's dark at 4:15 every.

[A]

Ugh.

[B]

Yeah, that's.

[A]

I'm just like. But to give myself credit and Grace, I am consciously. I know my. I feel myself in here, myself going, okay, so what's the plan?

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Mm.

[A]

Good, you know. Yeah, get up, get outside. You know, even. Cause like, I said to my doctor, I'm like, okay, I just wanna rest. I've been traveling all year. I've been traveling all year. I have to tell you something about that, like, personally, okay, about, like, it. It's been bad. Like. But, like, I was just like, I just want to rest. I just want to sit in this bed and I just want to watch anime and play my PlayStation for, like, two days. Just. I just. Can I just have 48 hours in my bed in video games? I feel like I earned that. That's what I want to do. And my doctor was like, okay, what is the likelihood that day three will come around and you're gonna get a boop and you're gonna go whoop de woop to whoop? And I was like, okay, I'm just saying what I wanna do. All right? Like, I know that. Like, I'm saying what I want.

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Oh, I love therapy.

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Yes, I know. Fuck. But I told him. I'm like, I understand. Like, rest to me, rather than being in my bed with the dark, with the blackout curtains. Could get on, you know, on the roof, outside. You know, I could go. There are other ways that I could chill and get rest that aren't that are, like, healthier.

[B]

Yeah.

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And then making sure I exercise. You do?

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Yeah. Get your sleep and all that.

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I'm not feeling great, but I want to do something about it.

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Wonderful. I love this new space you're in.

[A]

That's great. At her.

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Look at you just evolving all the way up.

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Thank you for everybody who came to the shows. New Orleans. I had such a good time. It doesn't make sense that I was there for, like, a matter of hours and still ate. It's just like, you land, and then they just put delicious things in your mouth.

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Yep. As soon as you get there, it's a beignet upon arrival.

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Like, what? Um, and then Miami. Wow. You really came to the show. I don't know why Doral looks like that now. Um, gentrification, actually, I do know why. But thank you guys for coming. And, like, we, like. I had, like, a really good time with y'all. I was scared. Cause you bitches are hard to please. I know that I'm one of you, and we have fun, so thank you, guys. This is very fulfilling. I enjoyed it very much. And who knows what next year brings? Maybe I'll. Maybe. All right, so, Black excellence. Shall we? May we? I'm still just in my head thinking about the roundtable. I'm obsessed.

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You are.

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Kerry Washington will be honored with a Hollywood star on the Walk of Fame. Yay. Ghost scandal. This is cool for me because I can, like, go down the street and go look at it. I guess every now and then I'm, like, walking from the gym or a doctor's appointment or something, and I'm just like, oh, stars. Oh.

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Oh, yeah.

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They do that. They have that here. Yeah. But it's rarely like, people. It's usually, like, old, old, old, old, old, dead white people from the 30s. It's never like, oh, there's Sam Jackson. Like, I rarely walk past the good ones, but I think the good ones are, like, in the Times Square of la.

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Right. Which you not trying to go nowhere near that.

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I'm not.

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I don't want to do that ever in my life. Valid, valid, valid, valid.

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But congratulations to her. Congratulations to Ms. Issa Rae, who's opened a brand new restaurant lounge.

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Oh, yes.

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Oh, you bitches thought that Hilltop was. Was sickening. You thought Hilltop, and it is.

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Hilltop is so cute.

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Get into Ms. Somerville. So it's located in Park Windsor Hills, of course, because Issa Rae, if she gonna do anything, she gonna do it black. And it's a lovely community. And so they are building on that as well as paying homage to that community. It's past, present, and the celebration of progress in between. It's open from 6pm to 11pm Wednesdays through Sunday. They actually had like a grand opening tasting on my birthday.

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Oh.

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That I had reservations to, but I canceled because of debilitating depression, existential dread and self hatred. So some of the time.

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What the hell.

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Congratulations, Issa. It looked sickening. I can't wait to go.

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Issa, Louisiana are up. For real.

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I mean, listen, when what we're about to talk about came out, incredible. I texted the rap shit group, group chat. Cause most of them are LA niggas. And I said, as someone who is, you know, a transplant, someone who's not from here and happy to be here, I just wanna say congratulations to you N. You did it again.

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Yeah.

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You're having a great time and just. I just wanna pay my respect to culturally, what's happening for you, to you, with you right now. I'm enjoying it.

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Congrats to the LA natives. For real.

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Yeah, like you earned it real quick. Michael Rainey Jr. Known for playing. What's the little boy name on Power Now?

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You know, I don't know. Ahmaud. I'm just guessing.

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I hate him. I haven't watched Power in such a long time.

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Power tv.

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Ghost. Tariq. Tariq. Tariq. He plays Tariq Dylan because his show is Ghost.

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Oh.

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Book Two. But Ghost was his dad, but I guess not Ghost.

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Ghost is Ghost.

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Okay, But I think his character's name is Tariq. It doesn't matter. His name is Michael Rainey Jr. Tariq has nothing to do with this.

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OK.

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The actor is donating $2.4 million.

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Damn.

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To financial. I mean, goddamn the girls. Watch.

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Wow.

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Ms. Pau.

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Oh, this little boy.

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Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

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He was probably a grown man. Oh, wait, no, he was born in 2000.

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Oh, yeah. No, he's still a young man.

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Oh, yeah, yeah.

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He was on the original Power when he was really, really young. Right now he's the star of his own. And I feel like they're probably three, four seasons deep into that one now.

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Power started in 2014. Yeah. So he was only 13 when this show started. Wow.

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Yeah, so he's probably in his, like, early 20s maybe.

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Oh, and his mom is Jamaican.

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Oh, I didn't even know that. Oh, how nice. But he's donating $2.4 million in conjunction with Rare Restoring America Through Recovery Education, that foundation. And it's in. It's being donated to financial literacy. Literacy services for three high schools in Staten Island. And I thought that was really, really cool. A dope way to give back to his community and use that power money for good. Because, boy, because y'all watched that show.

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Baby, y'all certainly did. I think Maybe I saw 75% of an episode. It just was aggressively. Not for me. Not ever. I tried so hard to get into it.

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I enjoyed a lot of it. The original series. It was actually good a lot of it. It had, like, its low moments and high moments, but for the most part, I enjoyed the original power. But by the end of it, I never. I didn't, like, have interest in watching spinoffs and stuff like that, but I.

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Was gonna say, clearly, it was very popular here.

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People like them.

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Yes, you niggas have ensure that the power universe will continue to go and go for however long. Like, I don't even.

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I mean, honestly, that's cool.

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N are getting paid, so. Sure. I'm not mad. I'm just. It's not for me.

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Yeah.

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But I do recognize his little face. He has a very distinct and cute face, so I do recognize him.

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Yeah, he's been around for a minute. So. Yes, congratulations. Black people doing excellent things, being excellent, and exuding excellence. Let's get into our pop culture segment that we call Hot Tops, the Jizz.

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I was just about to say the Jizz at Chiz. That's what I thought you were doing. I thought you were. I thought Jizz was, like, the name of the glee club at Shiz. The gay Glee club.

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I forgot that this. The university was cautious. I was just thinking of the Wiz.

[B]

Oh, we'll see how your mind goes. Which. I saw this conversation online. Do you also think that there were, like, little nods to the Wiz in this film? Like, I've seen some.

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No.

[B]

Okay. I saw the people talking about the Emerald City sequence in particular. That. That seemed to be.

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No.

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Okay, okay.

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No. How work. Listen, it was just one short day.

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I have. Well, and like I said, they are talking about quite literally that.

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What? No. The Wiz's Emerald City sequence is not only, I think, my favorite musical sequence in a musical period. It's incredibly distinct. Like, what about that? Especially in the Senate. Okay, so let me tell. Okay. This wig.

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You.

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We spoke. I said, listen, I told you, I'm very, like, my energy is so empty that I was like, maybe if I put this wig on, it'll bring some comedy.

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You're giving Ariana. And she is queen of comedy for me right now.

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So am I giving you Glinda?

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You are. I mean, especially with the sleeves.

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I actually have an Elphaba one.

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You're giving Ariana.

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Oh, Ann. With the sleeves.

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Because of the sleeve.

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Tus toss.

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Yeah, Tus toss.

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Tus toss.

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She was so good. And anyway, let's just start.

[A]

Okay. So do you want to do. Okay. I called you.

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You did, you did.

[A]

And I told you this. It's interesting, folks. You know, we. First of all, I want to say thank you guys for being back and giving us a break last week. Usually, if we are going to take a week off, we'll, like, record in advance or do whatever because I have this, like, anxiety. Like, no, they'll be so disappointed if they don't get new, and that's not realistic. And I also really needed a break. So thank you, guys. We love you. And you'd think.

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We do. We do.

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Coming back after a break. Oh, my God. There's so much to talk about. I called you and I said, bitch, I'm not getting on this phone and talking about nothing but Wicked and Kendrick.

[B]

Yep.

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I don't give two shits.

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That's been my whole two weeks there's. I've seen Wicked three fucking times.

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After I finished Wicked, and I sat with the fact that Kendrick's album had also plucked me, I was like, blue Ivy is gonna have to announce her, like, debut art exhibit or something. For me, I don't give two fucks. I'm also gonna talk about that mixed boy suing everybody and stuff. But I. Cause I. But I feel like that. Oh, it does.

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Yeah. That's part of it.

[A]

You want to start with Wicked or you want to start with Kendrick? Black or Green, where you want to go?

[B]

Well, people are already talking about Wicked, so we can just. Oh, man. So as somebody who's never seen the show, never heard the soundtrack.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. I'm not one of those who will go listen to the soundtrack if I never got to see the show. Only show I did that for was Rent, but otherwise, I don't really do that. So I didn't know. I only knew Popular just because the Zeitgeist Popular was that big of a song. But the rest of it I did not really have any context for. Sometimes I went into this, even though I'm a huge musical theater fan. I wanted to do snowing like precious little. Didn't even Google the plot.

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Just, wow.

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Backstory of the Wiz, you know, the Elphaba's origin story or whatever. The Wicked witch's origin story. Story. Fine.

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Oh my God, I can't. I thought you had at least seen the. The. The musical.

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No, I had not seen Wicked ever. This cinematic production blew my mind.

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Should.

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I mean, power blasted my pubes right away.

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Right out from the Rooter to the Tutor.

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I knew it was a talented cast. I knew John Chu, you know, this movie was in good hands. Steven Schwartz. I said, okay, like, this is an excellent roundup of artists and visionaries and people who can absolutely do this.

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Yep.

[B]

I need to talk about Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo.

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I do.

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I need to talk about them desperately. Because these two bitches have been holding hands and rubbing pussies together in every interview for weeks. Crying, weeping just at the sight of each other, at the sight of the interviewer. Like, they have been so fucking weird for like two months now. And.

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But within the context of the fact that this is a production that means a lot to people, of course. And I, 20 something years old, I get that.

[B]

And I know how theater people are, so I get that. I had a lot of understanding for them being so fucking weird while they were doing these junkets when they met.

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Old girl from Avenue Q.

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From Avenue Q. When she was like, yeah, girl, I played Gary Coleman. They lost it.

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Yeah.

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So I said, fine, you know, fine. Theater people being weird over a musical. I. Fine, that's fine. But after I saw that bitch, I get it. I have to say, Cynthia revoir. Been a star, been talented.

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Yeah.

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I saw her on Broadway in the Color Purple. That was my first time seeing Cynthia Erivo live. And when I. What she did with Celie was just. Y'all have seen it, you've seen it, you've seen her singing the songs anyway, blah, blah, blah. I had no doubt about Cynthia Erivo's ability to carry this role anyway.

[A]

Yeah, me neither. Yeah.

[B]

However, Ariana Grande, I mean, I knew she could sing.

[A]

We don't see her acting much besides. But we mostly known her for Nickelodeon.

[B]

Right. For being right and being a pop star.

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Yeah.

[B]

And Nickelodeon shows don't count as acting. Sorry. Especially not when you were a kid, when you were on it.

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Not really.

[B]

I mean, you're not, you're not raving.

[A]

Disney sometimes gives you some room to act. That's what I'm saying.

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But Nickelodeon, they just want to be an inappropriate.

[A]

Yeah. Make you throw goop and stuff on.

[B]

Had you showing your feet on camera. Like that was an appropriate thing for a 13 year old girl. But so, I mean, you know, I've seen her on snl. She's very funny. On snl.

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She's great at impressions.

[B]

Very great at impressions.

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But she is a theater girl.

[B]

Like, she started in, so I have learned, my nigga. Yeah, I knew. You know, everybody's heard the story of her going to see Wicked, original cast going backstage. Kristin Chenoweth gave her some bath salts and whatever, like, and she's wanted to play. She's wanted to be in this show since she was 10. Everybody knows that story. I did not. I owe you an apology. I did not. I did not know you were capable of this, though. I did not know. Well, I mean, I should have had. I should not have had any concerns. I should have had complete faith from the beginning, but I did not. And she proved me and everybody else who had the same thought process completely wrong. I mean, the embodiment of a self absorbed, vain white woman, like, just privileged, Classist. Yes.

[A]

Manipulative. Yeah.

[B]

Everything about. So I wanted to give them, especially Ariana, their props for, like, the acting, their performances here unreal now. So congratulations, Ms. Grande Butera. That she ate Defying Gravity, though.

[A]

Can we just. Okay, a couple of things. Let me just tap in real quick.

[B]

Okay, yeah, yeah, tap in, tap in.

[A]

As someone who has seen the musical, as someone who has been aware of Defying Gravity since I was, like, in drama, in school, in high school or whatever, like, I've never really given a.

[B]

Fuck about Wicked, okay?

[A]

Because it's always really been presented through this white lens. Even Defying Gravity, I've always been like, yeah, it's a pretty song, but it sounds like a Broadway song to me. And, like, even Drama Teacher, they would act like it was O Holy Night.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

They acted like it was the Star Spangled Banner bitch. And I was just like, this is a Broadway song. Like, okay, whatever. So I never actually still don't like most of the music in Wicked movie and all. Like, I don't care for most of the music. What I always enjoyed about Wicked are the themes. It's about racism, classism. It's about political propaganda, censorship. Like, it. But so it's all. It's kind of like, insane that the first, like, really prominent Elphaba, Black Elphaba, is now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, and it adds this completely different. Because her skin can be green, but her features are, you know, they're different and they look. They feel like mine. And it makes a lot more sense. Her hair. All of these are the things.

[B]

Micro braids, the nails.

[A]

Oh, my God. Oh, I can't okay. So being that I really appreciated Wicked thematically from the jump, that was something that I was looking forward to in this. And they were able to bring that to life and to the surface in a way that I find, like, indescribable. Obviously, you know, you have the benefit of it being a cinematic experience. So you have different, like, you know, perspectives and things that you can do. Even the concept of, like, what's his name? Dr. Dilliman.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Like the fact that he is a goat, like, looks like a goat rather than a guy who's in like, you know, makeup and costume and stuff to look like a goat. When they flipped that fucking chalkboard over and revealed Nger. Cause that's the family matter. Wickard got that from Family Matters, right.

[B]

When they put that in.

[A]

That was Laura Winslow's locker.

[B]

Yeah, I remember that.

[A]

Why do I remember that?

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

It hits differently when a motherfucker looks like a goat. It's like, oh, my God. The dance scene.

[B]

Oh, the Ozdust when they became friends. And Ariana was mirroring when she realized.

[A]

That she was being an absolute bitch.

[B]

When Morrible came and was like, I don't know why she likes you because you're talentless and a flop. But Elphaba the only.

[A]

But she won't work with me unless I do this, so.

[B]

And that's when she realized, oh, I set up this and incredibly sweet person who never did nothing to me. And I've just been jealous of this whole fucking time. Like, I literally. But the thing is, you're up to be humiliated.

[A]

I've never felt the emotion in that scene the way that I did in the movie.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's always either come off as like, sort of awkward and silly slash sweet. Here it was like seeing. Okay, Cynthia Erivo's ability to invoke emotion and humanity within acting and singing is unheard of. Her like, seeing Elphaba's. Those tears falling down her face while she's wincing. Like, I don't want these people to see me crying. I don't. Like, I'm. I can't let these people see. And Glinda just goes, no, it's okay. And wipes. You don't get that in the theater. I'm sorry. Go to the theater. But it was just exciting to get that. To get that new. That adaptation. To get that, like, added layer of this thing I've seen before. And again in the theme of it, of her basically being othered cause of her skin color all her life. That ain't got nothing to do with her. And now she had this pwi and bitches are being, like, rude to her for the fuck nothing. Yeah, I'm tired of it, but I'm not going to let you bitches see me crack it.

[B]

Which is her whole life, actually. She's been hated for who she is for her whole life. So I see why the gays are obsessed with this, all the marginalized people. I see why y'all have sort of glommed onto Wicked and held it so dear for so long. Because it is the story of so many people who have just been hated for all their lives for something that. Yes. For something that is completely outside of their control. And, you know, of course, my therapy brain started turning and I was like.

[A]

Work what she said.

[B]

Which, I mean, is the point. And I'm sure I'm not saying anything new, especially considering how old this show is. But, you know, it just really jumped out to me that the reason Elphaba was fantasizing this way about going to see the wizard and having her skin color changed and that being, like, her driving force for most of the movie, you know, it just was not lost on me that that probably came from the fact that she did not receive any sort of love, support, understanding, encouragement from home. Like, her daddy was literally her first bully. Her mama died a few years later. I don't know how her mama treated her, but clearly, I mean, she was out there getting raised by a fucking talking bear child. So from the beginning.

[A]

And she feels this responsible. Yep, she feels responsible for her sister's condition.

[B]

And that was when Glenda redeemed herself for me. Not that little dance at the Oz does, but when Elphaba was like, this is my biggest secret. And Glenda was like, okay, that might be your secret, but that's not your truth. Like, yeah, the milk flowers did that to your sister, not you. That's when I was like, okay, so this bitch is useful. Before then I was like, you can. You can toss this bitch off of a fucking.

[A]

That is her redeeming. No, no, no, no, no. But you. That's. I think that's actually an excellent process of it. Because the little hat part isn't redeeming. It's just kind of. It's, if anything, more of an awakening for Glinda that she's being unnecessarily, like, rude and mean and terrible. But it is in that moment. And it's funny. I've been watching all of the junkets and shit. Cause after I. I'm obsessed Same, same. But in one of the interviews they asked, I think it's the one where they cried at the end where they were like, oh, there was this one guy. Maybe it's Jake Takes is the guy. I took his name down because he asked excellent questions. But anyway, someone asked Ariana, if you were performing as Glinda on stage, like at whatever theater they do Wicked, what is one of the moments that you would be most excited to see a theater, live theater reaction of. And she said, hey, look, it's tomorrow.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

And at first I was kind of like, that's an interesting. Like, Glinda has so many like big reaction moments. I thought she like. My immediate thing is maybe she would go for something, you know, singing related or funny. But she was like, it's tomorrow. Because, you know, it's funny, it's kind of sweet, but it's also poignant. It's like, look like a new day girl. It's tomorrow. It's a whole new day. And a whole. And I was like, yeah, that is the moment where Glinda is kind of like redeeming herself and proving to like be someone who's actually worthy of being this girl's friend.

[B]

Yes. However, so that redeemed the character for me. But she's stuck in what she considers to be important, which is based completely off of her very privileged experience. And so it's like you can see her trying to actually be a good friend to this girl, to Elphaba. And I thought, so popular works really well in the movie because Glinda's like, your problem is simply that other people don't like you, but I can teach you to be likable to others. And it's like, how many times have we heard advice on like how to make friends or how to be more sociable, how to do this and that, you know, higher paying jobs or whatever from people who fit every possible positive stereotype of like attractiveness was considered like beautiful or worthy or even like worth listening to.

[A]

So it's like she's talking about heads of state communicators talking about do they have brains or knowledge. Don't make me laugh.

[B]

Don't make me laugh.

[A]

They were popular, right? No, the funny thing is can like very quickly. Popular is my favorite song in Wicked. Always has been. Kristin Chenoweth eats it. If you haven't obsessed with her like she anyways, usually it's like, don't make me laugh. They were popular. Please. Like it's something like that in one way or the next. And I love, you know, I loved seeing how Cynthia and Ariana and their songs took their own liberties or change little things. So having it be like they were Elphaba going popular.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Like, that was like such a. Like, I love that Ariana's Glinda was kind of like she took like a smidgen of the kookiness back and added like frustration and agitation. And I think it speaks to exactly what you're saying of her, like being dead set focused on this very privileged goal that she's not even really able to attain. Like, you're not that vague.

[B]

I think I read it that reaction that. Right. First of all, it was hilarious. One of the funniest moments in the movie.

[A]

No, it's so funny.

[B]

It is so funny. But I read it more as like, enthusiasm. Like you're getting it. Even though what you're trying to teach me is not complicated.

[A]

No, no, no, no. I don't think that part. No. Yes. I don't think that part was frustration. I just feel like it was like, rather than doing the like please. Or the like, whatever, she has this every now and then she has this edge. Even in the part where she's doing the ball gown part and the wand doesn't work.

[B]

Oh, yeah, ball gown.

[A]

Most of the times I've seen it, Glinda will just be like, oh, just wear the frock, it's pretty. And like tosses the thing and Ariana is like, just wear the frock, it's pretty. Like she doesn't the throat. You know what I'm saying? Like, she just has a little bit more of a. Like, I'm not perfect, whatever.

[B]

When she tries. When she took Elphaba's glasses off and then was like, no, no, I'm just gonna stop.

[A]

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[B]

So the I love that whole please.

[A]

Go watch the musical.

[B]

Well, that's what everybody keeps and that this is different. Elphaba's reaction in this scene particularly is different than the musical because I guess in the musical she's kind of just like girl, whatever, like blah, I don't know, shrugging it off or maybe not really seeing the value in it. But in the movie I heard Cynthia say she wanted Elphaba to be like more into it. And when you think about it, in real life, that is exactly how it would go if you hated, despised, teased, mocked your whole life and then the most powerful person in school, the most popular girl you've ever known, takes you under her wing and is like, I'll make you like me. Yeah, nine times out of ten the girls are gonna jump at that opportunity. In real life, Elphaba would have been so hyped for that. And you saw she tried to do that toss, toss. And then that white boy was like, girl.

[A]

But she still does. I mean, that girl wasn't really all that different. She just, I mean in the moment she was kind of like, whatever girl. Like I'm not her. And she goes off, which leads to glinda's though. You protest, but it's not your disinterest.

[B]

You say that, but you're going along with it. But also you're gonna do it. The bigger message here is that simply acting like you is not enough to make me not popular. Not even just popular, but not hated. And I don't. You don't see it that way. You think people love you because you know how to flirt with boys and you can be very charming, but if you do that and are still conventionally unattractive in whatever way or marginalized in whatever way, you're still not going to get to the Glinda levels. And on some level, you know that. Cause the very last line of the song is like, just not as popular as me. Like, you, somewhere inside you get that. But this whole idea of like, oh, I'll just show you how to fix your hair, how to talk to N. It'll be fine.

[A]

Like, that's even in Defying Gravity where she's like, elphaba, just tell them that you're sorry and it'll be fine. And it's like, no. Like, you're used to things going a certain way, and a lot of it is based off of your class and your image.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And you're so absorbed in that that you don't even really see what's going on around you.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. But Ariana Gandha is singing live, hitting those notes, adding extra octaves to the end of Popular while doing high and spinning around and shit like that.

[B]

The choreography in this movie was so good.

[A]

This is Ariana Grande. This is her. Like. I think this is Ariana Grande in her element. Ariana Grande, the pop star is. Her is acting like that's an alter you.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. When she said. She said she was on her sweetener tour and she was like, if they doing this right now, I will cancel this whole shit and go home in.

[A]

The middle of the tour.

[B]

Ariana.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She was like, yes, bitch. My whole life I have wanted to.

[A]

This is her shit. Yeah, this is her shit.

[B]

It's so. For me, it was. I just got. It was such a. It was almost overwhelming. It's why I've seen it three times. Cause I'm learning the story and the music and enjoying the performances, you know, all at once realizing the Wiz was her daddy. Because in that first song, and no one mourns the wicked, when they're talking about how her mama had this affair, they don't show his face, but his voice. I was like, that's the apartments.com guy. And then when he came out later, and that was another funny part. When they get to Emerald City, they going back there to meet the Wiz. They see this giant, you know, mask or whatever. And then what's his name? Apartments.com, jeff Goldblum.

[A]

Jeff Goldblum.

[B]

When he walks out, Ariana said, a man.

[A]

Yeah, she was so funny throughout. Even when the little letter was coming down the invitation and she was like, oh, my God, I can't even. Or she said something like, yeah, when she was.

[B]

I mean, even when Elphaba was getting on the train and she was like, oh, no, I possibly couldn't. I can't go with you. No, no, it's your moment. Okay, okay, I'm coming. Very funny, but I thought very timely, a very timely message. For those of you who are feeling betrayed by the white women in your life, perhaps you're feeling like Elphaba and you're feeling like your friends or co workers or whoever are the Glindas of the world. But as somebody who has not seen and is very much anticipating part two, I might have to go watch the show just so I know how it all ends.

[A]

Yes, you do.

[B]

I will say there's at one point Elphaba says, like, imagine what we could do together. And I was like, what you mean together? This bitch has no power like you. The. You the only supernatural bad bitch here. But after the second or third time I watched it, it clicked for me that Ariana's power is in being liked. Or Glinda.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Her power is being popular. She got niggas to get off of your ass just by mirroring your moves at the. At the prom. Like that is. That's what sad. But it means. It actually does mean something. It actually is worth something in this society to be liked, even though it's for completely superficial reasons. People adore you and are willing to do whatever for you to make you happy, whatever else. So you have the power to shape narratives. That's huge. Elphaba can't do that. Elphaba was going to be the wicked witch from birth simply because of her skin. Do you get it? There was nothing Elphaba could do. As soon as when she got there, realized that man was a fraud. And then Glenda's like, well, you can still have everything you want. You can still be with the wizard. Bitch ain't no wizard. That is amazing.

[A]

She said, I know I can, but I don't. But I don't want it.

[B]

No, I can't want it. Anymore. That man is not even no fucking wizard.

[A]

He's not a wizard. What are you talking about? I'm the only one in this building with power.

[B]

He's apartments.com, apartments. Yeah. He can't read the Grimory. Only I can read the Grimory.

[A]

Oh, look at that. Now I can fly.

[B]

Like, and then she write. And then she tried to do what.

[A]

You need to do, right?

[B]

She was like, let me enchant this broom. And then it didn't seem to work immediately. And Glenda was like, maybe you're not as powerful as you think.

[A]

Powerful as you think, bitch.

[B]

That broom said, let me show you something. Let me show you something.

[A]

Why you talking all that shit?

[B]

Why you talking all that shit? Let me show you who's really powerful. Now. The reason that you're going to be kindly escorted away by Morrible and, I assume, promoted to Glinda, Good Witch of the north, or whatever she is. I don't know, is because you have been having these private trainings with me. Like, Elphaba's the reason you're even getting promoted to this next to me. That's what it looks like, anyway. At this point, it's like you chose to stay.

[A]

Well, you spoke to the fact that Glinda has. What were you just saying? Glinda has.

[B]

She has the power to be liked and to make other people think of.

[A]

The opening of the movie. It's great to see me, isn't it? Like, everybody loves her. And they know that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So they're like, oh, we got us a mouthpiece.

[B]

But knowing the truth about your friend and then seeing them burn this giant effigy of her right in front of your face, like, let's talk about no One Mourns the Wicked. One of my favorite songs, it's up there with right now. It's that one and the wizard and I. And, you know, it's actually shorter to say the songs I don't like, which is, I'm not that girl. I don't care if I'm not.

[A]

Are you fucking kidding me?

[B]

Yep. I said it. I said it and I meant it. I don't care that the boy don't like you. I do not care.

[A]

I knew that's why you didn't like it. Gross.

[B]

But I get it. And I actually think it's very useful in this movie to, you know, to have this character talking about longing in that way, because it's a natural, normal thing to want and to feel like, oh, once again, you know, nobody's looking at me. Nobody cares about me. Look at Glenda. Like, who would pick me over her? That's valid and all that. I just don't. Like. There are bigger problems. You have much bigger problems. And she knows that. She's not even valuing this boy over everything else. But, yeah, that song, I can truly do without. But the Dancing Through Life, I love that one. Obviously. Define what.

[A]

I literally don't like the music from Wicked. I've never really liked it. The only song I ever really liked was popular. I grew to like Defying Gravity after a while. Have you heard Amber Patrice Riley sing Defying Gravity?

[B]

No, I have not. Let me write that down. Down.

[A]

You will watch this. In fact, I. We should. No, we're not gonna. You will watch this. It doesn't even matter, because when we're done recording, I'm gonna make you watch it. I'm gonna sit and make sure that you watch it.

[B]

Well, I'm looking forward to it.

[A]

But I heard that bitch sing that song, and I was like, oh, there's oil. There can be oil in the gravity.

[B]

Right?

[A]

In the gravity.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And so, you know, I've never really cared for the music in Wicked, like I said. But knowing Cynthia Erivo, I was looking forward to hearing her sing a lot of the songs. But specifically, I wanted to hear her sing I'm not that Girl. Because melodically, it's so pretty and soft and she has such a clean voice that I knew she was going to, like, make me like the song. And she did. Like, now I really, really like the song. And even the visual of it took me back to Brandy and Cinderella. Something about her, this black fantasy girl singing a soft song in a meadow or whatever, or the woods about love or some shit. It just reminded me of that for a second. I was like, I think I need more black leading ladies in fantasy musicals. Cause this is giving me a taste of nostalgia. But again, I could live without a lot of the music anyway. But I like it a lot more in this production than I ever have because of Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo.

[B]

Yeah, I love the music. I cannot relate to this at all.

[A]

I thought it was even the wizard, and I was like, you know the girls. I was clapping with everybody in the theater after that song and stuff. But I'm like, it's not one of the ones I go out of my way to listen to. I don't really care for the music.

[B]

Well, it's. Did I press the button? I did. I'm just. I've been listening nonstop to the Soundtrack. But I, I don't know.

[A]

Defying Gravity is absolutely.

[B]

Is the. I. It's the way this movie was directed. So I mean, even in the wizard and I, that part where she's talking about him degreenifying her and you can see through like the colored lights, her brown skin, like what she would look like without the green stuff like that, the way Defying Gravity was shot and then knowing that that's Cynthia up there doing her own stunts and singing live, hoisted in the.

[A]

In the air, hanging by a crane, singing live. Yep, yep, yep, yep.

[B]

And that was the moment where, I mean, so I do love the wizard and I, because I know what it's like to be so hopeful that, like, you know, you just take this to somebody, somebody with more power than you, somebody that you've always been told you can trust as like a higher power. Like, I'm gonna just take this to the wizard and all of a sudden you're gonna have everything off. Because all you really want, you don't want to not be green. You want to not be mocked and teased and humiliated for being green. You want to be accepted as part of the world. The green isn't the problem. And I believe that the reason she cared so much about the animals is because the animals are the ones who didn't turn their backs on her. You know, Dulcie Bear raised her. So when she sees Dr. By the.

[A]

Time she gets to the wizard, she wasn't even thinking about that. She's like, the animals are fucked up and we need to do something.

[B]

Because he, right, he gave her the little figurine and she was like, it's green. And he was like, oh, I mean, she don't have to be. And she was like, oh, actually, nevermind. Fuck the green skin. Now that I've thought about it matters much less than animals, you know, losing their ability to speak. Not knowing, of course, that he is the reason. He and Morrible are actually the reasons behind all this happening. So, yeah, just an incredible.

[A]

What a Cynthia. When she says you have no real power that even ah, give her.

[B]

And Ariana was gagged.

[A]

Glinda was like, do not play with this lady.

[B]

Oh yeah, don't, don't do that.

[A]

When it comes to these awards seasons. I won't have it. I won't have it. Like so many of these lines are almost line for line.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

And that like, realization when she. It's like she's angry, but she's also shocked. And she's like in her face. Oh my God.

[B]

Defying you don't have no power. Morrible can only read, like, three words in this whole book. I'm packing this bitch up and taking it home. It belongs to me.

[A]

It's a rap. Like, what the fuck are y'all?

[B]

I'm the only one reading this like, it's Fisher Price.

[A]

You just lied to me and made me put a spell on this fucking innocent. Okay? Oh, no.

[B]

And then tell monkeys that it's my fault that I did this to y'all. And if you want your family safe to come get me.

[A]

Like, let's talk about the acting. Let's talk about the emotion and defying gravity. When the girls realize, she says, come with me.

[B]

Yes. And Ariana's like, you know, I'm not.

[A]

And Glenda is like.

[B]

I'm really more of a.

[A]

You're gonna be cold. You know what? I need to. Let me find. Oh, you can wear this. It's like Glinda knows she's not that girl. She's not a freedom fighter. She don't wanna do that. She was.

[B]

But she loves her friend to support Elphaba, right? She didn't really give a fuck about the animals not being able to talk. She sat there and berated the professor for not doing the guh in her train.

[A]

Right before they got on the train and Fierro showed up, she was like, I had no idea he was so emotional, Bar. He cared so much about that old goat. And then he came over and, you know, it was very clear he was feeling Miss Things. She was like, I'm changing my name in solidarity or whatever. Like, she's not that girl. And she had to, like, in that moment, come to the realization and be honest about it. And Glenda and. But she loves her friend. Her friend love her. They were like, you know what? I hope you're happy in the decision that you're making. I hope that you can live with it.

[B]

It went from acceptance in the same song, which I also love.

[A]

Her crying when she was. Ariana crying when she was putting the cloak around her. Oh, my goodness. Let's talk about the emotion. The girls coming in, them grabbing Ariana, her falling over the thing. Oh, my goodness, I can't do this. And then she sees young her in the thing. Cause that it's me is always in the song.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

But they John True was like, no.

[B]

No, we're going to visualize.

[A]

Instead of like, it's me you want. It's me you want. It's me. Like, you are going to see you little. You quite literally this is how far.

[B]

You'Ve come, and all of a sudden you're gonna say, oh, nobody's saving us but me. Yes, you are gonna save you. Not that fucking wizard. He can't do anything. He's a man.

[A]

You're gonna do it. I'm her.

[B]

And so if you care to find me, turn your bitch ass toward the western sky. Because as somebody told me lately, everyone deserves a chance to fly.

[A]

Everyone deserves a chance to fly. I'm flying solo.

[B]

At least I'm flying free.

[A]

I'm free, bitch.

[B]

And you know what else you can do? Take a message back to all them hatin ass whores and bitches and tell them how I'm defying gravity. Tell them what you saw here on Today.

[A]

Unlimited. Unlimited. No one in all of Oz.

[B]

No.

[A]

No. And you want to know something else?

[B]

Those are really the lyrics. It's those right there, that emotion and nobody.

[A]

You want to know something else? When Miss Girl said no wizard that there is or was, this was the first time I realized she was shading him. Like, that was a read.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, it was.

[A]

I always took that for some reason as just like, no, this wizard or any other wizard from any other time or place. No, she's saying, no wizard that there is. Oh, actually was. They ain't a wizard. I found out. So in the sky reading these bitches.

[B]

Because she knew not a single one of y'all can take me. By the time y'all figure out how to catch me, I'll be long gone, ho. Into the depths of that western sky. Oh, it was so good.

[A]

We have to talk about Kendrick. Do we?

[B]

Okay, well.

[A]

I mean, listen, we can do whatever the fuck we want to. I mean, because I don't even have much of a read. We could do, like, we could skip letters. What do you want to do?

[B]

I just want to keep.

[A]

Because we can keep going. We haven't talked about the costumes. We haven't talked about the sets. Literally, like, we haven't talked about the hair journeys.

[B]

I want to talk about Nessa Rose very quickly, please. Adorable. First of all, love that little Nessa the first time. And love that this is the first time an actually disabled actress is playing Nessa Rose. That's crazy, but I'm glad to hear it. Baby Nessarose, possibly one of the cutest children I've ever seen. That little. Yeah, when they're in the garden, is both of them. They're almost baby Elphaba and baby Nessarose. Right? They really. Those two are adorable.

[A]

They're unbelievably cute.

[B]

However, Nessa Rose might be one of the most bitch made characters in this whole fucking movie. And it's very interesting. I love that the character is disabled because it quite naturally brings up these sort of questions of like, well, to what degree are marginalized people supposed to stick their necks out for each other? You know, it's like, this is your sister. This is your fucking sister, first of all. But also both of you are in marginalized groups. And yet Nessa Rose, you know, being in the chair, it's like that's much more common for people that's, you know, they're not horrified by her. In fact, they're trying so much to help her that they're actually getting on her fucking nerves. And once again, Elphaba is the one stopping that shit. Like, she don't need you to grab her fucking chair. You know, she's a new student. She got this. So anyway, anyway, for Nessa Rose to sit back and watch people clown her sister the way she did repeatedly, over and over, a munchkin boy came up to you and invited you to a dance and you said, we deserve each other. What? You lonely bitch. We deserve each other. To a nigga you just met. What does that even mean? Do you know him? What's Bach's last name?

[A]

And when her sister was saying that very same thing, she was like, oh my God, you've always gotta be, you know, talking with your fucking green ass. Dumbass shit, you colored bitch. Like, don't nobody wanna hear that shit. Fuck no. No. Nessa Rose sucks.

[B]

Nessa Rose pissed me off. But I saw the actress on TikTok talking about how it's fine for you to not like the character. She is villainous in some ways, but the problem with the character is not being disabled. And I'm like, now why are y'all being ableist when you talk about. Nessa Rose is a bitch and a terrible person for things that have nothing to do with her being in that chair. I don't know why y'all are like that.

[A]

Yeah, that has nothing to do with it.

[B]

You sit back and watch N s bully your sister non fucking stop and don't say nothing because you just want to be accepted too so bad, right? On a certain level it's understandable. But that's your fucking sister. I don't. And she didn't do you wrong at all, ever, ever. Like all Elphaba ever did. She's at this school to look after you low key.

[A]

You mad that she's still there in the first place. And she's there because she has potential.

[B]

Well, I mean, and there's not. But see, that's the thing. None of you bitches, y'all might be mad at Elphaba. Y'all might think she's gross, disgusting. Morrible said, I see an icon, I see a star. I see the bitch I've been waiting for. And that undeniable, pure natural born talent is what kept her there despite everybody else hating on her. Now, was Morrible using her for nefarious purposes? 1,000%, yes, she was. And that was so wrong. And I. Oh. So first of all, you know she's a villain because her name is Morrible. Like, come on.

[A]

Duh.

[B]

It's not a secret. It's not a secret here. But when she. The way she plays with Elphaba's emotions, like, oh, my dear, you're the girl I've been waiting for. I'm going to write to the wizard right now. You might be his grand vizier. All you have to do is prove yourself. All you have to do is, is. Is work so hard and then you'll be making good. And immediately I was like, no, fuck that. She don't have to make good. You're not doing her a favor by having her at shiz. She's doing shiz a favor. She's doing you a favor. You're not going out of your way. She didn't even have a room for her. She got a room with this rude bitch, right? No, you're not. So immediately I was like, yeah, fuck this lady. But shout out to Michelle, yo. Anyway, anyway, incredible cast. But I. For me, it was just like. I could not believe. Well, I could actually. Because why wouldn't Nessa Rose treat Elphaba that way? Everybody else does. I mean, and this is actually nicer than the way most people treat her. But it's just fucked up knowing that that's your sister and that she ain't never did you wrong at all. Was constantly got into this whole. Like, Marrible would have never even known about Elphaba's powers if Elphaba had just sat back the way Nessa Rose do and been like, oh, well, somebody pushing your chair and you don't like that. Oh, fucking well. But she doesn't do that. You do that though. You see everybody clowning your sister at the prom and you like, oh, I can't watch while you sit there and fucking watch.

[A]

She sucks.

[B]

She does suck. So fuck her. Is that. I think that's All I just absolutely.

[A]

Had to say, the costumes made no sense. They were cinched. Like Violet Chachki. Like, why every Violet Chachki.

[B]

No, not Violet Chachki. The. Who was cinched?

[A]

The costumes.

[B]

Everybody was cinched. Oh, no. Everybody looked incredible. I love that. Skirts and pants were just. It was just kind of random. People just wore whatever they wanted to bow. And Yang was so funny when Fiero was like, will you do something for me? And he was like, yeah, I would do anything for you. And he was like, can you move? Yeah, that's like. That's anything. And Glenda, when they were. I don't know, they were talking, flirting, whatever, and she said something. He was like, our first fight, it was like. They were so cute, so charming. The two of them were really adorable together. I get the point of Fiero. It's like, you. You want to act like nothing really matters. You can just skate through life not caring about shit, but deep down, you actually do care about shit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, and the poppies. The fact that Elphaba brought the poppies and then everybody fell asleep after she had that tantrum, I was like, oh, right. Like the movie, you know? It's like, just so many things connected for me. At the end, when they were picking the color of the road and Glenda.

[A]

Was like, I mean, there's gonna be more crossover, obviously, in Part two. Oh, that's when.

[B]

God, I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait. Everybody keeps saying Glinda's gonna, like, redeem herself. Apparently there's. Apparently I need to go watch it and listen to the other half of the soundtrack. That's what I. And I probably will, just so that y'all don't spoil it for me, because it's gonna be a whole fucking year till it comes out.

[A]

But, yeah, just go watch the musical.

[B]

It's like, round of applause for everybody. And I do mean everybody involved with this. When I see shows like this, it makes me wish that God had decided that I could also have that talent. I want.

[A]

Right?

[B]

I want to do musical theater so badly.

[A]

I don't want to do musical theater.

[B]

I just want to see. But the only thing holding me back is the complete lack of ability to. That's the only thing keeping me from my dream career. Just those two little things. Just. I'm blown away. I'll probably go see it once a month in theaters until y'all take it out of theaters and bring it to streaming. I love it that much. I don't. I'm not sure why exactly it's resonating so much with me because these are themes I already know. And you know, you're not showing me something, you know, new here as far as, like the message behind the movie, but the way the story is told. I'm such a fucking fan. So Ariana Grande done made a fan out of me child. I knew she was talented. I always knew she could sing, but did not know she had this in her. This was incredible. So I'm very much looking forward to part two. And yeah, congrats to.

[A]

I just realized I have Glenda hair and then also green.

[B]

Oh, yes, you do.

[A]

This wasn't planned.

[B]

This is. Oh, my God. Even one short day in the Emerald City. The lyrics to that, it's like I.

[A]

Didn'T give a fuck about. I don't like the songs.

[B]

I can't understand. But you like. I'm not that girl.

[A]

I like Cynthia's version of it because she. It sounds really good in her voice. I don't care about the lyrics of it. The melody and the production are very pretty. The song is. Yes, what she's singing about is sad and pathetic. But that's the story. Like that. That's the story. Yeah. But it's a. Even the first time I've heard that song. It's never really been like a favorite song of mine, but knowing it, I'm like, oh, I feel like Cynthia's gonna eat this up. Cause I love the melody of it.

[B]

Well, she did.

[A]

And that first note, I was like, well, here we are and we've arrived. Yep. Now I like this song.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So well, I mean, but I listen to Divine Gravity every day. Every single day.

[B]

The soundtrack made it. It's like my number one or is two or three on my top albums of the year on my Apple music replay.

[A]

The soundtrack that came out two weeks ago.

[B]

The soundtrack that came out two fucking weeks ago. I cannot get enough. I have been listening to nothing but that and GNX since they both came out.

[A]

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[B]

Ago, you called me and said you be online more than me, so you probably already know. But Kendrick put an album out and I said, I'm already played it. I've already listened to the whole thing.

[A]

You said you listened to it twice.

[B]

I did.

[A]

I was like, okay, well Kendrick Lamar.

[B]

Okay, I.

[A]

Don'T even know where to start. I just. Okay. So we knew this was coming. We had a very good feeling with the super bowl halftime announcement that he was going to drop a full project and he did. He just went ahead and said hello everyone. It's the 22nd of November. Here are 12 songs for you to.

[B]

It's nice and short. Nice and short. 45 minutes.

[A]

Like, 45 minutes.

[B]

Perfect.

[A]

Right off the top. Whacked out murals. I. I was.

[B]

I began to weep.

[A]

I had to, like, hold on to myself, you know.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

In case of turbulence, I was there. Was like, that man said that he used to Bump the Carter 3. Held his rolly chain proud.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I think my hard work a little laying down. Whatever, though. And I say it. That's what I said.

[B]

Well. Cause what else can be said? Really?

[A]

I. Delightful. Delightful. Because, like, girl, what are you talking about? It also wasn't a dis.

[B]

Not to one person. He actually said, it's all you niggas now. It was, fuck that nigga. But now it's plural. Now it's actually, oh, yeah.

[A]

He said, fuck everybody.

[B]

I wanna know. What is that line? When he said, I paid homage. I always mind my business. I made the.

[A]

And then something got. Yeah.

[B]

So now what rhymes with business? A lot of things. So I wanna know, like, what did you do? You made the what? I made the pop star. Stop touching on them children.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

Who knows? Perhaps. Will we ever hear what the redacted line was? Cause I'm like, did Kendrick. I wanna know. Did Kendrick decide to take it out? Did the label take it out? Like, who said this can't make. This is actually a step too far and it cannot make it.

[A]

Cause the other one that's can't make.

[B]

It to the air.

[A]

Cause he took Diddy out too. Well, he said niggas cackling about blank while all y'all is on trial.

[B]

Well, yeah, but that. That I feel is very obviously Diddy. Whereas I wanna know what this whole redact.

[A]

Yeah, but no, that's what I'm saying is it's probably to your point, someone might have said, okay, girl, I don't know. I don't know if that one just for, you know, legally.

[B]

Yeah. They said, mm, this is a little. We're already in the. You know, the white boy done called the law, so maybe let' but yeah, he said, Snoop posted Taylor Made. And I said, damn n. It must have been.

[A]

I thought it was the edibles. And Snoop said, it sure was.

[B]

And that Nas was the only one who congratulated him on getting the Super Bowl. I'm like, damn, niggas are really salty and mad.

[A]

I don't get it. Whatever.

[B]

Not that.

[A]

But yeah, the album is just.

[B]

I'm doing what Covid did. They'll never get over it.

[A]

I've listened to it so many times already.

[B]

I listened to it twice today before we even recorded. When I tell you I don't listen to nothing but wicked and gnx non stop. Pretty much non stop nonstop.

[A]

It's just so good. I feel like a lot of it speaks to these. Oh, Kendrick, don't have no bangers. Criticisms that like, the owls were giving during the beef. And he was like, oh, I guess you guys want, you know, Club Boppy, whatever. Whatever stuff. So the very next song, squabble up, which is like the one that he teases at the beginning of the Not Like Us video. We've all been waiting for the next line. Mr. Get off. I get off at my feet. Is that how it cut off? Yeah. And we're all waiting for the Very nice. The next line of that song. The next line of the song is it makes me dick. Which is like. It almost felt like him saying here. Like, here's this Debbie Depp sample. And it's just like the most surface, baseless thing that you could say about dancing and music. And that's the next part. And that's what we're using. Like, I don't even know why I didn't see that coming, but I just kind of felt like there was like a slight jab at the girl even in the video, which we have to talk about.

[B]

Yes, the video.

[A]

A lot of the time he's just standing there.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? And he's.

[B]

And just looking.

[A]

But I just thought that that was so fucking funny and interesting. And he's still fucking wrapping his goddamn ass off even though it's some shit like that that is like, has a, you know, little whatever. A hook to squabble up. Squabble up, squabble up.

[B]

It's like this whole album is so good.

[A]

But he still is like, publishing and going off when he's like, what is the. It was Wolf tickets on sale till I silenced it. Pipe down, Young. These whole See some whole other politics bitch with him and some bitch in him. That's a lot of bitch. Don't hit him. He got kids with him. My apologies. Get a child. It was black and miles with the spear now Yee haw. We outside we argue about a killer black phone Black It's a fake. It's a bigger rock. Tell me why you right if it fix it up Tell me why you if you can I can I drop I'm like, no. He spooked. It's a full moon like, like, that.

[B]

Whole part so good.

[A]

He's just so, like, he. This one is clearly an ode to west coast music culture. I love the fact that it's. The features are Sza and, like, a bunch of rappers from California. I think that is so fire for two reasons. Yes, yes. That's been his message this entire time. Like, you niggas are gonna put some.

[B]

Respect on the west.

[A]

On the West Coast. So that makes sense. But also, I love how Ms. Mamas was like, SZA got you wiped down and did and, you know, felt like after he, for whatever reason, decided to go on a song and tell people that they dated, that, you know, oh, you know, look, we friends again and we doing a song with Ghetto Maga and blah, blah, blah and all this other shit. Like, he tried to, like, wave Sza, a TDE artist in his face for some shit. Sza said, girl, the vocals are saying, what time you need?

[B]

Like, the way I'm going right back home.

[A]

That ain't got nothing to do with me, girl. I'm working. Shut the mic. And now they're going on tour together, bitch.

[B]

And now they're going on tour together. Tickets. You need to stop hanging out with Beyonce, because what is this? Announcing a tour and tickets go on sale 48 hours later, pre sale the very next day.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

A little too chaotic, but I. I'm going. Well, I mean, I. It's not even a question. And he's doing. These are giant fucking stage. Like, he going to MetLife. He going to MetLife in Jersey out here.

[A]

But he. He. He been doing it.

[B]

Oh, okay. I didn't know that.

[A]

Like, you know, he packs. He packs the girls. So that's. Again, I don't know what the girls. So, yes.

[B]

The Squabble up video, please. I just wanna say I feel like this project is obviously very la, like, obviously very west coast, and I.

[A]

That video was black. I know that's where you were going. Sorry. It is. I agree.

[B]

Well, yes. I just wanted to say that I really appreciate the regional dedication. The. Yes. This whole fucking project is our sound. And if you want to know what a real nigga who can channel Tupac or can really do a pocket pressure, like, if you want to know what a non AI pocket pressure sounds like, you could just come over here. Number six to la, niggas. Yes. So I'm just.

[A]

Let's play it.

[B]

So the video. Yes. Extremely niggerish.

[A]

It's just black. Like. Yes, it's a lot of west coast shit, but that video was black. Blacker than a fuck I love. He's just standing there in a room. It kind of has a similar vibe to a couple shots in.

[B]

Not like us.

[A]

Not like us. Shout out to Calmatic who directed it. But I love all of the craziness going on behind him. Tanika's dancing. Shout out to Britney. Brittany Jefferson was the girl who, when Oldboy got punched and that girl came in with the Max dress and punched that nigga in his face and started looting his shit. That was Britney from Mia's bougie friend from rap Shit. That was her.

[B]

Oh, yeah, it damn sure is. Wait, no. Why did I pull the video back up? That is her.

[A]

I thought that was. And I was like, oh, that makes so much sense. Cause she's fucking hilarious. So of course she like, that's what it's like. That was my favorite part of the damn video until I saw the mamas.

[B]

Oh, yes. And I you.

[A]

Those beautiful black women.

[B]

Y'all were really mad. Y'all were really mad that he put big girls in his video.

[A]

Were they?

[B]

Oh, yes.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Talking about Kendrick is pandering. And he just want, you know, he just trying to get the bitches to like him. He just, you know, like, you just doing this to make black women happy.

[A]

It's like, not what are you talking about?

[B]

But like, also, you don't see them chewing this the fuck up. Like, they are going in. You niggas just maybe Kendrick, actually, that's what they can do.

[A]

Like, oh, my God, I hate it.

[B]

Y'all are terrible.

[A]

Yeah, Them doing that choreography with that energy and intensity and facial work while with these like, blow pops in their mouth in front of a dunk rider. They even did a Florida esque dance. That front back thing that they did. I don't know if Charmed La Donna or I don't know who choreographed this too, but that was giving me Miami. They looked like triplet versions of a lot of my homegirls I went to school with. So leave me alone.

[B]

And the baby playing with the remote control and the dog attacking the nigga.

[A]

Like, it just was that panther. That black panther table that everybody play. Auntie got the girls in front of the airbrush back sign doing pictures at the mall.

[B]

Got to love it.

[A]

It was just my youth. So black. I loved the video for it. The whole album really was like, what are your cause? For me, I go, favorite songs?

[B]

Yes, I was.

[A]

I'm going back and forth between man at the garden reincarnated. Okay, Gloria.

[B]

Mine are blacked out murals. Wait, are we picking Top three.

[A]

Yeah. But I might want to start over.

[B]

Okay, well, if we're going top three, I think I'm going to have to go. Man at the Garden. Oh, this is harder than I thought it would be.

[A]

It's really hard. Oh.

[B]

Cause I love Dodger Blue. I love peekaboo. I love TV off.

[A]

TV off is just like. I feel like TV off is a given.

[B]

I. You know what? Controversial. I'm gonna say, man at the Garden. Whacked out murals and Luther.

[A]

Okay, okay.

[B]

I'm trying to pick three. I'm trying to pick three.

[A]

You know what? I'm gonna.

[B]

If it was up to me, man.

[A]

Of the Garden, reincarnated.

[B]

Reincarnated is great. I want to do one of them past life regression journey so bad. But then I'm like, I also don't want to learn something I can't unlearn. Like, I don't want something to me up real bad either in this life forever. So. But yeah, reincarnated is great.

[A]

He took that fucking maid beat and was like, you wanna hear Tupac?

[B]

Okay, but the TV off. Dodger Blue. Peek a Boo, Run. And then Heart, part six. Wait, no. Okay, wait, no.

[A]

Yep. We have to. We have to.

[B]

See, here's my problem. There are no skips for me on this.

[A]

Yeah, there are.

[B]

So trying to pick my top three favorites is wild. Okay. No, Heart Part six really leapt out to me at first. Okay, maybe least favorite. What's your least favorite song?

[A]

Okay, least favorite.

[B]

Because I know mine. I do.

[A]

I don't.

[B]

Mine is gnx. Actually, mine is gnx. The title.

[A]

I love gnx.

[B]

That beat is a little too disjointed for me. It takes.

[A]

No, I love it. It makes me want to dance.

[B]

Not for me. Even though I still, you know, I don't hate it. But not my favorite. Gloria threw me off until I realized he was talking about his pen. And then I was like, okay.

[A]

I don't know. It might. My least favorite might be Peekaboo.

[B]

Wow. How dare you?

[A]

But I don't not like it. I don't. There isn't a song I don't like. I don't not like it. I'm just. If I had to put him in order, maybe it would just. I think it might be at the end.

[B]

You know which one I needed to hear the most? I needed to hear man at the Garden the most.

[A]

It's just important that I deserve, like.

[B]

All Elphabas need to go play man at the Garden and be like, what? Actually.

[A]

I think man of the Garden, Reincarnated are always are going to be my top two. And then that third one is going to rotate a lot because I love TV off. I love Heart Part 6. I love Gloria. I actually really love GNX. I love Luther, too.

[B]

I love Luther. Bitch, if I had a Luther sample, I would call my song Luther too. I would. And they sound so good.

[A]

Why wouldn't you? They really do sound good. I feel like also the. It's. The order of the songs is really, really good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, the flow of it.

[B]

It is good.

[A]

Is really good. But still, like, I think when we look back at Kendrick's career and all of his albums, this is going to be, like, a highlight. But it's not even.

[B]

He's just. He's continuing a very excellent streak.

[A]

Yeah. I think this is Kendrick really just, like, loving on his community.

[B]

Mm, yes, absolutely. I mean, the whole.

[A]

It's not pimp to pimp a butterfly. It's not like you didn't like.

[B]

And you can't forget that. There's, you know, there's a hotep in him. You cannot forget that.

[A]

Oh, yeah, no, don't relax. Mustn't, mustn't, mustn't.

[B]

Do not relax.

[A]

Mustn't.

[B]

But, yeah, that whole. That line about never let a white man talk about a black. White comedian talk about black woman. That's law. You know how many people hit me up?

[A]

I facetimed you out of breath.

[B]

It said, bitch, Kendrick is talking about you on his album, period. Y'all let Andrew Schultz and the rest of them get away with that bullshit for way too long. And did you see his response? That little bitch ass.

[A]

I don't care.

[B]

No, Something about. Is this guy so woke that he can't even take a joke, which is just peak white man. I told y'all about that sorry sack of shit, but I just realized we're not gonna have time to go through this album. I just realized we not gonna have the time to go through this.

[A]

Not the way that we want to. But I have a feeling that we're gonna be talking about both talking about.

[B]

It more and more, and the way I am even more. The anticipation for the super bowl is heightened for me now. I cannot wait to see what this n does.

[A]

What is he gonna do with it? What do you get? 15 minutes, 10 minutes, 12 minutes?

[B]

Something like that? Yep, something like it.

[A]

So we're absolutely hearing him scream mustard. So that's without. That's without question. It would eat if he did whacked out murals. He's probably gonna do Squabble up. He's definitely doing not like us.

[B]

And I can't wait. Apple Music said it was their top stream song of the year.

[A]

Why he ain't suing them?

[B]

Oh, right. We didn't even talk about these bitch ass lawsuits. These little pre lawsuits.

[A]

These. Yes, these pre petitions. The petitions. They want the paperwork.

[B]

That white man said it ain't. No way this song was actually that popular. Umg. You guys are making it worse. Well, I mean, UMG says it is offensive and untrue that they did not actually falsely pump up the popularity of this song on Spotify and other streaming sites.

[A]

I don't give to rabid fucks if they did. To be honest with you, I don't. Especially coming from Drake complaining about it. Mama, you. You're suing the girls for payola. You're suing the girls for boosted streams and for bots. You miss Mama who? I have to listen to one of your songs before we take off on a delta flight and shit. Bitch, like, what are you talking about? Yeah, I now your fifis are hurt and you want. It's just. It's. You know what it is? I say to myself, it screams mom. It just gives me like, mommy. You know, mom, they're being mean to me.

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Also, I'm like, how does young thug feel? 7 days out of prison, you know, heavily gained all this weight underneath of underneath Rico charges and shit like that. And he did, you know, I believe before he got released, found a way to tweet, hey, Drake Navadius, we are brothers.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

And we need to do this music shit. And Future retweeted it and Elliot Wilson's talking about Drake and Future made up behind the scenes and all this other stuff. And this nigga is, you know, eight days free. And here you go following Rico Choppy.

[B]

Here you go.

[A]

Or preparing to.

[B]

Or preparing to, right? My first thought was, are you accusing UMG of doing this for Kendrick? Because UMG has done this for you. Do you know that? They do shit like this because they've done it for you. Girly pop. And then, I mean, of course, of.

[A]

Course it's been done for you.

[B]

But my, but the, the very next question is, do you think N S weren't actually playing the song?

[A]

That's, that's the thing.

[B]

Do you think it's popular because of umg? Because I'm here. I'm going to take your pale doughy hands in my hands when I say this. I personally logged almost 1,000 minutes of playing Kendrick Lamar this year. And most of that was like that and not like us. I need you to understand. It's a hit. The children know it and they walking around screaming a minor like this. It was a bonafide true hit girl. The girlies still know the Words.

[A]

That's one of the things, too. Like in the suit, he's saying, he was referring to this article where they were Talking about this TikTok video a guy made where he said that if you go like, play not like us on Spotify to Siri, that it would. No, if you say play certified loverboy on Spotify or Siri whatever to Spotify, it would play not like us. And so they're using that in this petition as a way to say the Spotify. But in actuality, even in the full TikTok video, they clarify that it's really lyric recognition software for people who may not know the name of a song. So he was like, for instance, he did it with Drake. I don't remember what lyric he did, but he was like, play, let's say hotline bling. Yeah, he did like a couple of like random lines from something like that. And then it would play hotline bling. And he was like, siri, play wop wop wop wop wop on Spotify. And then it played.

[B]

Oh, yes, because Kendrick says certified loverboy.

[A]

Certified loverboy certify. Right. But they're trying to make it seem like Spotify has tricked or like rigged the algorithm to reroute it to the song.

[B]

No, no, no. Apple does the same thing. You can look up. You can type lyrics into Apple Music and it'll show you songs that have the lyrics in them. So, but like, Drake knows this, right? That's why they're little pre lawsuits just asking questions.

[A]

And like, girl, you're a capitalist, so.

[B]

The game is the game, baby. He told you to keep it cute. That man said, I'm at home with my children. Don't bother me. And you said, I'm a bother you? He said, he said, if I hear one more peep out of y'all. And you said, peep, you think you me. And then you got your ass beat just like I did. Why you didn't just leave that man alone? Has been my question since like March. Why didn't you just leave that man alone?

[A]

I saw him on like, somebody posted that he was in another streamer's comment. Comment section. And the streamer was saying the same thing about Spotify or somebody playing some song instead of Drake or whatever. And then he left a comment. Drake, Aubrey Drake, 30 some odd years old, he left. The comment was like, we need a donut emoji custard. Which I don't. I don't get it. But I also don't have, like full context for that. So I'm not going to delve into how cringe I think it is. Maybe because I don't get the.

[B]

Yeah, I don't get it.

[A]

I. Yeah, I don't know what the donut emoji part. I get the custard, but I don't know.

[B]

Isn't there a donut emoji? Is there no donut emoji?

[A]

There is. I'm pretty sure there's a donut emoji.

[B]

So then what the is he talking about? Maybe not on that donut emoji. This right there is chocolate covered with sprinkles.

[A]

Maybe not on dick.

[B]

That's very. Okay, whatever.

[A]

He's weird, and I really need him to get to stop with this stake shit and trying to get these kids to play it.

[B]

Oh, the betting stuff.

[A]

It's so gross. But that's a topic for another day.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Gen X. I'm very entertained by it.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[A]

Awesome. I'm looking forward to both the halftime show as well as the upcoming tour. And I will be listening to this and the Wicked soundtrack. Bitch, I had to, like, literally, I was listening to the Wicked soundtrack so much that the music was getting stuck into my head doing. I'm in the gym, I'm in the kitchen. Anything, and it will knock it out of my head. Same. Okay. I have to listen to GMX nonstop for like, an hour, two hours, three hours, and hopefully, like, we can transfer that and then just go back and forth, but I'll still listen to two hours of GNX and then come out there like something has changed within me.

[B]

Yes, you better give wistful.

[A]

Something is not the same.

[B]

Mm, that's me with. What's the song about? How much they hate each other. What is this feeling? Yeah, I've been singing and I will be loathing. Loathing. Yes. That's a great one.

[A]

That is actually a good one.

[B]

Truly loathing you.

[A]

Yeah, that is a good one, too.

[B]

It's a great song. It's been stuck in my head. Yeah, it's been nonstop. Only after the third time seeing the movie did my brain kind of quiet down a little bit with this soundtrack. But, yes, Kendrick is. What a gift he is, man. I'm just shout out to real niggas. Wait, wait, wait. No, no. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I just. I'm bursting with excitement for what this man is about to do. Not just at the super bowl, but on this tour. And I'm like, should I try to go in la?

[A]

No.

[B]

I feel like it's Gonna be so hard to get tickets to LA. In particular, he's doing two shows in my backyard. MetLife is like 20 minutes from my house.

[A]

I wanna go. Honestly, I think it's gonna be too much. But they're gonna have such a good time, right?

[B]

This is what I'm saying. They are gonna have a great time.

[A]

So I'm so happy for these niggas. I've put on my. On my blue sky and on my thrills. I was like, it's decided. I will be learning to Crip Walk. I'm also going to be incorporating the blood walk in my journey for stylistic purpose and a cultural balance. And it's like, please do a little something safe like crumping or Da da. I'm like, why do you bitches think I don't have street smarts? I'm talking about in my living room. I'm not about not to just be down in a. Like, I'm not stupid, bitch. Like, I know I've been somewhere.

[B]

You from Miami.

[A]

Hello.

[B]

If anybody know how to act, I would hope it would be you.

[A]

Girl, I'm good in any hood. Fuck what you talking about?

[B]

Because you know how to act. But I do. That was the feeling I got when I was finished with gnx. I thought, damn, kind of like how wicked makes me wish I could do musical theater. GNX makes me wish I was from la, Makes me wish I was from Compton. It just gives me that feeling like, damn, I wish I was one of you niggas who grew up with this sound.

[A]

And, like, I love this for them because for all of the, like, the people who come here. And I'm like, LA people are. I'm like, no, it's you. Yep, it's you.

[B]

He called y'all out.

[A]

It's you. It's you. You people who are not from here, Louisiana natives motherfuckers who grew up here. What he said, stop speaking on LA if you ain't.

[B]

If you don't go past the 10.

[A]

And I felt that. I don't know exactly where the 10 is, but I felt that, like, leave them alone. Every LA native, like, born bred nigga that I know out here are some of the most solid people ever. Chill.

[B]

It's a transplant culture.

[A]

Fun. It's the transplants that give them a bad name and talk shit at the same time. Bitch, you're the problem. Ben.

[B]

Go home. Girl. New Yorkers tell us this all the time.

[A]

They be like, let me not say that before. I'm like, somebody named Ben. Go be like, who the fuck are you talking to? I don't. I just said a name.

[B]

Don't take it personally, Ben. We're transplants too. Yeah, we're just saying don't act like that. You know, if you felt hit when Kendrick said that, then perhaps you need to take a moment, sit with yourself and investigate the things you do and why you do them.

[A]

But, yeah, cheaper places to live, too.

[B]

Cedar. Cedar. So I'm just saying. I mean, you have options is all that's really being said here. But, yeah. Excited, very excited for Kendrick Lamar and SZA to go on this tour.

[A]

Last question. What music video would you like next? If he could have one.

[B]

Man at the Garden.

[A]

Only pick one. Okay.

[B]

Man at the Garden. What about you? It was. It was a top. Yeah, it was. I was battling between man at the Garden and Dodger Blue.

[A]

I fucking love that Gardner Luther.

[B]

Oh, Kendrick and Sza just sound good together. I really do. I wonder where all the stars is gonna be in the. In this concert lineup, right? Cause ain't no way they don't do it, right.

[A]

Oh, he's almost forgotten.

[B]

And is Sza gonna give us some control or sos?

[A]

Yeah. Imagining she's gonna do, like, her records. He's gonna do his record too.

[B]

And then they'll do their joint records, see?

[A]

And then they'll do stuff together.

[B]

Oh, I can't wait.

[A]

It's gonna be great. Like, it's gonna be non stop great music.

[B]

I cannot believe it is.

[A]

And they're both visually artistic as fuck too, so, you know, it's gonna be really. It's gonna be a great show. I love Sza. Said, girl, leave me out of there. I don't got nothing to do for work.

[B]

I was on Blue sky earlier, and somebody said SZA was the mole who took the pictures of Drake's Ozempic Kendrick.

[A]

That actually makes sense. But it would be so funny.

[B]

She said, let me just. It would make the most sense. It would. It would.

[A]

S. Was like, y'all are so stupid.

[B]

I'mma just take this picture and hold onto it for a rainy day, since.

[A]

I'm here and we just have things laying out.

[B]

Oh, that would be delightful, wouldn't it? But okay. All right. So we literally did not talk about nothing but wicked and gnx. So sorry.

[A]

I'm proud of myself.

[B]

Yeah. I'm not sure if something else happened in the world, but that was. Wasn't really any of my business. Billboard said Beyonce is the best entertaining of the 21st century or something, which, of course she is. I mean, clearly I don't even know who else could have possibly. What I do love about what they said was that, you know, only a handful of artists can compete with her as far as, like, vocal ability, musicianship, pushing genre forward, staying relevant, et cetera, et cetera, but nobody can touch her when it comes to all of them combined. And I said, why don't you just come on in the room and tell the goddamn truth on today?

[A]

I don't argue with truth.

[B]

You can talk about what Taylor has sold. You can talk about Drake's tours, you can bring up all the biggest current names. Oh, they do this, they do that, and all of that is true.

[A]

Usps, Malone.

[B]

Nobody is the combination of bad bitchery that Beyonce is. And that has been acknowledged.

[A]

Here we are.

[B]

Other than that, I'm not sure what happened in the world. And I don't know. Best of luck to y'all.

[A]

No, I promise you. I took a little pee, too, and was like, don't care. Don't care. Don't care. Don't care. Don't care. Like, it's wicked and it's genetics. Like, nothing. There wasn't anything else.

[B]

And that's fine. And that's fine. Not for you to see that. In the weeks since the election, Donald Trump's lead has narrowed considerably. So that made me happy because. What. One of the things that really upset me was how.

[A]

Yeah, me too.

[B]

The margin of victory. And they're like, no, we just needed to count all the ballots. And now it's much closer. And I'm like, okay, that makes more sense to me. Then. An overwhelming popular vote victory for him. That was confusing to me. So I guess that's good. But he's still going to be president. Everybody is still going to roll right over and swear him right back into office. If you think you mad at Joe Biden pardoning his felon ass son, you might as well prepare to stay pissed for the next. Anyway, anyway, y'all. Y'all have made your choices. I do not care that he pardoned that druggie. I do not.

[A]

I don't give two.

[B]

I just want him to keep going. Pardon everybody.

[A]

You know what I do give a.

[B]

Fuck with some felons.

[A]

The who's about to be president, who's a convicted felon, who's about to be like, not anymore. Not anymore.

[B]

I mean, the Supreme Court done said that presidents can do whatever they want to.

[A]

So that's what I'm saying, like, right, that's the fucking give a fuck about.

[B]

Hunter doing crack and never did the whole the whole pursuit of Hunter Biden in this sense was always just like, I don't give a shit.

[A]

What does this have to do with the fucking price?

[B]

And I don't care that he said he wasn't gonna do it and then he did it. This is the least offensive thing about Joe.

[A]

I don't give a shit.

[B]

The most understandable thing about Joe Biden. A blank check to Israel is not understandable. Pardoning your son for doing drugs is.

[A]

Yeah. So, yeah, here we are on earth.

[B]

Here we are. Y'all still gonna let Trump be president, So I don't. I was just letting y'all have that, I guess. But. Okay, that's gonna wrap up for now.

[A]

We have Wicked and gnx, and.

[B]

And. And I am enjoying. I'm grateful. I. I'm in a spirit of grace.

[A]

And I have the Round Table game show.

[B]

I mean, there's a lot of good music. Sir. Put out an album that I'm really enjoying. I'm still playing fucking Megan Act 2 and glorious. And I'm just. This was a good year for music, but, you know, obviously these two huge things happened, and they took up all of our.

[A]

Oh, I have a mini read now that you mentioned.

[B]

Okay, yeah, go for it.

[A]

Why not Mega Act 2? Because that made me think of Rocksteady, which made me think of Flo Milli, which made me think of her being pregnant, which made me think about some of y'all being marooned. It's interesting to me that some of y'all, you know, allegedly voted for Kamala and. Oh, my God, you know, our bodies and women and all this other stuff. And then it's like, flo, Millie is pregnant. She. You know. Why would you do this? The same Cardi shit as if that's some how going to prevent her from something.

[B]

You talked about this the last time, too. You feel strongly they pissing you off.

[A]

Did I mention Chloe? I mean, Halle, too?

[B]

You did.

[A]

Oh, I did this one already.

[B]

You did. Like, three weeks ago. You were, like, at another thing.

[A]

Fuck y'all. The end.

[B]

I'm just. I'm sure it's still going because of.

[A]

How niggas are, but, yeah, it's so annoying. I'm also, like, really emotional and, like, all over the place right now. Cause I'm so tired. And I get a lot of Halo clips on my TikTok and Explore page. Because anytime I see that adorable baby, I tag.

[B]

So cute. So cute, right?

[A]

He's just so cute. And yesterday I saw a video of. Of her outside somewhere with him and he was in this little stitch like costume. Oh, stitches.

[B]

Yes, I did.

[A]

See, that stitch always fills my heart with immensely already. And now you have one of the cutest babies alive in this costume, and she's just sitting next to him, and then he's just, like, you know, sitting there, and she would sneak in, give him little kisses on his. Just cackle, cackle, cackle. Big toothless grin, and then stop. And then they do the baby thing, or you just anticipate the next one. But he's chilling, and she's just chilling, you know, boom, boom, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss. I cried.

[B]

Oh, friend.

[A]

For about five minutes.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

It went from, oh, my God, this is so sweet and so beautiful. I hope she's happy. I hope that her, like, her village is strong and supporting her. People are talking about, you know, supporting women and stuff like that. And this girl talking about she's severely postpartum and y'all being a dick or whatever. People are just. Then it went into. People are so cruel and so unnecessary and all this other shit. Yeah, crying. But it was also very cute, so it was worth crying. And so when you got to get it out, you got to get it out.

[B]

That's been me with the ads about dogs dying. Any sort of content.

[A]

The what?

[B]

Like, content on social media. People be doing sponsored content. Like, I, you know, hey, guys, let me tell you about this stuffed dog that I got to look exactly like my dead dog. And I'm like, wait, what? And so now anytime I see, like, what your dog goes through when you die or what you go through when your dog dies, every time I see stuff like that on Instagram, I just weep. Even. I don't even have to watch the whole video. As soon as you say something about dogs dying, I tear up.

[A]

I cried on the podcast about it. Remember I talked about what Link would have done if I was gone?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And I didn't even process that, because for her, it would have been just like, where did this nigga go?

[B]

And that's why. Oh, my God, no.

[A]

Yeah, I wet.

[B]

They. The video I just saw is so crazy. They were like, you know, you need to tell people that if you die before your dog, to let your dog see your body. So they're not always looking for you, so they don't think. They abandon you. Dogs understand death, so they need to see your dead body. And then they'll be depressed, they'll mourn. They'll probably never get over you, but they need to not look for you every day of their lives. Either. That's worse. So I was like, oh, God. And now if I die, somebody gotta show lady. And I'm thinking about Laney seeing my dead body, and I'm just like, oh, no.

[A]

Oh, God. Yeah.

[B]

I love her so much. I miss her. I want to go get her right now. She's at school. Okay. Anyways. Anyway. Anyway, that wraps up this week's episode of the Re. God, I'm losing it. Okay.

[A]

Everyone's emotions are high. Let's just cry.

[B]

We're Ariana and Cynthia. Let's just hold hands and weep.

[A]

You're wearing green.

[B]

I get. What? I get it now. I get it. You bitches are weird. And I get it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We are on social media at thisistheread, our website. This istheread.com. you can find our merch over at shoptheread.com thank you so much to everybody who's tagging us in your Spotify wrapped and your Apple replays and all of your top podcast streaming experiences. We are honored.

[A]

Oh, that. Is that.

[B]

That you? Yeah. That you have invited us into your homes, your stereos and speakers and such for yet another year. So, yes. Thank you all so much. Anything from you before we head out, friend?

[A]

All of the above. Follow me on patreon.com kidfury for fun, exclusive content. We've got movies, We've got gaming. We've got fuckery discord music and the like. Tickets, merch, all of that nonsense. I'm on Blue Sky.

[B]

Oh, that's fun. I like to skeet. I'm not letting it go.

[A]

I have anything else to say. I'm done.

[B]

Okay. Wonderful. Take care of yourselves, y'all. We will see y'all next week.

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