Jade of All Jades (3:25)

Love that. Congrats to everybody. I really loved Unrivaled. Congrats to the rose Chelsea Gray for being mvp. Very well deserved. I had a great time watching this inaugural season of Unrivaled. So, yeah, go Blacks.

Susie Carmichael (3:42)

Yeah, go Blacks. All right, so for this week in the Hot box, I wanted to do something a little bit different. I want to play a game.

Jade of All Jades (3:53)

Okay.

Susie Carmichael (3:55)

And it's a game called Nostalgia, MTV Raps. I don't know, whatever.

Jade of All Jades (4:08)

Okay.

Susie Carmichael (4:09)

Okay, so here's the thing. I have, I think nine or 10 things, places, people, foods, toys that were very close to me in my childhood.

Jade of All Jades (4:27)

Okay.

Susie Carmichael (4:29)

I'm going to name these things and I'm going to give you 60 seconds each to tell me.

Jade of All Jades (4:33)

Oh, Christ. Okay, okay.

Susie Carmichael (4:38)

As if I had an alien best friend that landed on Earth and wants to know what these things are. I need you 60 seconds to describe to your best ability without googling, what each one of these things are.

Jade of All Jades (4:51)

Okay. Without googling. All right?

Susie Carmichael (4:53)

And we'll see what it is. And then maybe next week in the near future, we can do a version of it where it's the reverse.

Jade of All Jades (5:01)

Okay.

Susie Carmichael (5:01)

And I guess it is.

Jade of All Jades (5:03)

All right.

Susie Carmichael (5:03)

Okay, so we'll start with something easy. Let me get my timer.

Jade of All Jades (5:09)

Oh, God, I'm sweating. As soon as it's a time limit on it, I'm like, oh, I'm nervous. I'm nervous and I can't Google Lord.

Susie Carmichael (5:17)

Okay, we'll start with something easy. Dragon Ball Z, 60 seconds on the clock. Describe to us and the aliens at home.

Jade of All Jades (5:28)

Oh, no.

Susie Carmichael (5:29)

What Dragon Ball z is. Okay, 60 seconds starting now. Go.

Jade of All Jades (5:34)

Dragon Ball Z is an anime. Anime is a style of cartoon created by the Japanese and it became very popular in America as well. Not to be confused with manga, Dragon Ball Z is very popular. It features Vegeta and there's always some shit going down. That's the, that's the thing about it. These Dragon Balls, they do be Z in and the, the guys have to come in and, and save the world like every other episode. But then they also have like, interpersonal struggles and, you know, meeting new friends and trying to adapt to the way things are done. So it's very, very popular in the States among, amongst millennials especially, and really kick started a huge love of anime. For a lot of people who grew up in the 90s.

Susie Carmichael (6:30)

That'S it. You don't have any description of what it's about?

Jade of All Jades (6:33)

I just told you. It's about they're saving the world. I feel like I did great.

Susie Carmichael (6:39)

I'll accept it.

Jade of All Jades (6:41)

Okay. Thank you.

Susie Carmichael (6:44)

Dragon Ball Z stars Vegeta and Goku.

Jade of All Jades (6:47)

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why do you think I had to say everybody name who save the world? Right? You know, I just. I was just giving one name. They can look up the rest.

Susie Carmichael (6:58)

Okay, next. Here's another easy one.

Jade of All Jades (7:01)

Oh, no. Okay.

Susie Carmichael (7:04)

A pup named Scooby Doo. 30 seconds ago.

Jade of All Jades (7:08)

Scooby Doo is a cartoon again. It's an animated series.

Susie Carmichael (7:12)

A pup named Scooby Doo.

Jade of All Jades (7:15)

Oh, that's different from Scooby Doo.

Susie Carmichael (7:18)

A pup named Scooby Doo.

Jade of All Jades (7:19)

A pup named Scooby Doo is the. Is the origin tale of Scooby Doo. But it came out after Scooby Doo. And it is the story of Scooby Doo as a baby and how he grew up, the friends and family that he made along the way, and the different hygiene she got himself into. Such as old girl who thick and she got glasses and a bop and a white boy with blonde hair and another white girl but with red hair. And I think, wow, Shaggy. Shaggy is his best friend. Shaggy might be his dad or his brother. I'm really not sure. It might be his human somebody.

Susie Carmichael (8:09)

That's 60.

Jade of All Jades (8:10)

Okay.

Susie Carmichael (8:11)

Okay. Close enough.

Jade of All Jades (8:14)

This is nerve wracking.

Susie Carmichael (8:20)

That's close enough.

Jade of All Jades (8:21)

Okay, thank you, Puff name.

Susie Carmichael (8:24)

Scooby Doo is literally a cartoon that came out many moons after the original Scooby doo in the 50s or 60s. And it is about a Scooby Doo puppy and all of the rest of the gang.

Jade of All Jades (8:38)

The Dubsters. Yeah.

Susie Carmichael (8:40)

And they're all children as well.

Jade of All Jades (8:42)

Oh, right.

Susie Carmichael (8:42)

And it is specifically fantastic for me as a child because it had this like Little Shop of Horrors black lady gospel, Greek music in the theme song, in the ending theme, and throughout, like even. Okay, I'll play you the theme one day. It is just so black and it almost doesn't make any sense how negro it is. But you know, back then they used to let niggas do things.

Jade of All Jades (9:14)

Okay, they did shout out to the backyardicans.

Susie Carmichael (9:19)

Next one. Big bad beetleborgs. 60 seconds. Go.

Jade of All Jades (9:25)

Big Bad Beetle Borgs is a television series about aliens from outer space who are beetles. And they live on a Borg. It's a flying Borg. And it goes to different locations around the globe and infests those locations with beetles and Then the health inspector has to come out and say, oh, no, you can't have this restaurant anymore. And it gets condemned. And so they. It's one of those series where the star is the villain and the Beetleborg just goes around and puts nuisances and pests in restaurants and homes. And the exterminators known as the Ghost Beetle Busters have to come then and rectify everything that did go wrong. Very popular show.

Susie Carmichael (10:25)

Okay, that's 60 seconds. Nearly all of that was incorrect.

Jade of All Jades (10:28)

I've never heard of this show a day in my life. I'm itching that I can't Google it.

Susie Carmichael (10:36)

Bergs is basically a Power Rangers esque type of show where three young children enter a haunted house or something and then they get these things, things that make them superheroes.

Jade of All Jades (10:55)

Okay. Never, ever, ever would have guessed. Never heard of it. What year did that come out?

Susie Carmichael (11:04)

Big same year as 96. 97.

Jade of All Jades (11:08)

Oh, it's right there. Wow. Yeah, that just. I guess that did not look nine. Oh, yeah, sure did. 96. All right. No, and it was only on for two years, so I see why I didn't. 96. 98. I was in high school. I was in high school.

Susie Carmichael (11:22)

I mean, that's the point.

Jade of All Jades (11:24)

Yeah. Okay.

Susie Carmichael (11:26)

Okay, let's see. Pokemon the movie. The very first movie. What's it about? 60 seconds on the clock. Go.

Jade of All Jades (11:35)

The Pokemon movie is about Pikachu.

Susie Carmichael (11:40)

Okay?

Jade of All Jades (11:42)

Who is a little yellow pocket monster.

Susie Carmichael (11:45)

Everyone knows Pikachu is. What's the movie about?

Jade of All Jades (11:47)

You told me to explain it. Like an alien from outer space. Didn't know anything about it. So Pokemon are pocket monsters. That's what it stands for. Pikachu is like one of the most famous ones. He's a little yellow guy. And so the Pokemon movie is about him coming in and working with these different trainers. That's what they call people who build up Pokemon and help them to get so strong and big and powerful. So Pokemon is working with the trainers, but one of the trainers is secretly a bad guy and he's going around and trying to like kill all of the other Pokemon and keep them from evolving and getting to their final form because he's an abuser and a hateful ass bitch. And Pokemon and the nice trainers and the good Charizard also comes to help. And they all come together.

Susie Carmichael (12:38)

60 seconds. Nearly all incorrect. Okay, so Pokemon the movie, essentially about Ash, Pikachu and the rest of his friends and how they discover a secret experimented on Pokemon named Mewtwo is incredibly intelligent, can even speak human language. Breaks. Decides to Destroy the world. And then, of course, he doesn't, because mewtwo's awesome. Next 60 seconds. Animaniacs. What's it about?

Jade of All Jades (13:06)

The Animaniacs is this a adorable cartoon that Warner Brothers put out? And it's these. It's the. It's. We're Anna. Many totally insaney Anna. So there's just these goofy animated characters and they get into hijinks all the time. Pinky and the Brain is one of two of them. They have their own segment. I think the. There's a cat named Dot or something. I don't really remember all of their names, but I do remember really loving that show. It's like. It was, like, really funny. Just. Yeah, they. They. Somebody. Brain always wanted to, like, blow up the world. He was like the mastermind behind the Pinky and the Brain stuff. And then Pinky was a dumbass who would always inadvertently stop him from doing it and would every now and then outsmart the brain. But anyway, there were also other guys that I don't remember as well. But Animaniacs was great and had a great theme song.

Susie Carmichael (14:09)

Okay, 60 seconds is pretty much good. That's pretty good. Dot was not a cat. Dot was simply one of the Animaniacs of which their species was never defined. Okay. The joke.

Jade of All Jades (14:21)

Okay.

Susie Carmichael (14:22)

Pinky and Brain, you know, one of the cartoon segments. Absolutely. Brain, I don't believe ever tried to blow the planet up more. So just take it over. Either way, he was a failure each time. There were other cartoons, such as, you know, Good Feathers, that old lady Squirrel. But I think he did a great job.

Jade of All Jades (14:44)

Thank you.

Susie Carmichael (14:44)

I think if I were an alien, I would know what anime.

Jade of All Jades (14:46)

I remember anime, and I actually did watch that, so.

Susie Carmichael (14:50)

Great show.

Jade of All Jades (14:51)

Yeah, Pretty. Pretty impressed.

Susie Carmichael (14:53)

Pogs. What are pogs? 60 seconds.

Jade of All Jades (14:55)

Oh, my fucking God. Pogs were some of the most useless bullshit we came up with in the 90s. They were these little circular cardboard discs that had different printed on them. What exactly? I don't remember to this day because it was mostly. At least in Oklahoma, where I grew up, it was mostly like a skater thing. Black people didn't even too much with Pogs, but it was just, you know, I different printed on these little cardboard discs. And what y'all did with them is a mystery to me to this day. Maybe you treated them like baseball cards or it was like a game you played with these hoes or something. I kind of remember people slamming them down or tossing them up or some shit. I don't really know. But I do remember Thinking even as a kid, this is a little dumb. But it was huge. Kind of like Beanie Babies. I was like, y'all are really going feral over these stuffed. Like you're. You're joking, right? Like you're fighting each other in the McDonald's drive through for these bitches. That's kind of like what pogs was to me.

Susie Carmichael (15:56)

So, yeah, 60 seconds. Okay, so, yes, close enough. Pogs were little useless discs that many of us played with in the 90s and so. And they would have weird little cartoon images printed on them. And if you played for keeps, you would stack the pogs up, use another pog or disk to toss them at the pile, and whichever ones slipped over the ones.

Jade of All Jades (16:23)

Yeah, there. That was the game. That's the game.

Susie Carmichael (16:26)

Very game. I'm glad we moved on from that. But that was also part of my childhood.

Jade of All Jades (16:31)

Yes, I remember it vividly. I'm feeling good about this. I'm doing much better than I thought I would.

Susie Carmichael (16:40)

Bonkers. What is it? 60 seconds.

Jade of All Jades (16:43)

Well, pride goes before fall. Bonkers is a candy.

Susie Carmichael (16:52)

Does it taste like.

Jade of All Jades (16:53)

I don't know. Because my mama really did not allow us to eat too many sweets. And especially if it was new and trendy, she was all the more opposed. So I just remember that it was some. I'm gonna guess some sort of chewy candy, maybe fruity or chocolate in nature. I'm imagining little blocks. I don't know why, though. Maybe just because my mind associates bonkers with like block. Like those kind of phonetically sound similar. So maybe I'm just thinking it's like a. A cube shaped candy. But I do not know more than that. Perhaps they also came in a sour version. Or maybe they were all sour, I don't know. But I do remember my peers loving them very much. And I don't think I've ever had one in my whole Life.

Susie Carmichael (17:43)

Okay, that's 60 seconds. Everything about that was wrong. Bonkers was an animated television show about a bobcat named Bonkers who flopped out of the cartoon and entertainment industry. So he became a beat cop instead. And he was awful at being a police officer as well. He was a crazy cat with a cop outfit on. He would solve crimes and usually make them worse, but whatever.

Jade of All Jades (18:15)

Well, that's fine. Bonkers is also a candy, though. So I just did.

Susie Carmichael (18:19)

Okay, that's what I was.

Jade of All Jades (18:20)

I maybe had the wrong Bonkers, but I still don't feel bad about that.

Susie Carmichael (18:26)

Sure you should, because you were wrong. Okay, Buffy. 60 seconds.

Jade of All Jades (18:34)

Buffy's some dumb white shit that they still won't let go. It's about a vampire slayer girl. What the fuck? Those aren't real either. And so she's just some bitch. How she came to be a vampire slayer, I don't know.

Susie Carmichael (18:48)

She.

Jade of All Jades (18:48)

She's some high school girl, I guess. Was she popular? Probably not. The heroine usually isn't. And she ends up in some sort of position where she ends up having to fight niggas at her school. Maybe one of them was, like, the captain of the football team or the prom king or something. And then it just escalated from there. Vampires were attacking girls behind the bleachers and dragging kids off the side of a cliff. And it just got really bad. Was coming to school with holes in their necks and everything. So. Buffy, which I never actually watched because I maintain that Buffy is one of the dumbest names I've ever heard in my life. And that alone kept me from the series, has been incredibly popular, despite my disdain for the name of it. And. Yeah, that's all I got.

Susie Carmichael (19:39)

Okay. Um. Yeah, I feel like maybe 5% of that was. I was accurate. We'll just go ahead and give it to you. Buffy was, in fact, a vampire slayer in high school. She was relatively popular because she was a quote unquote Buffy. She's a popular girl, like street leading and boys and very pretty. She's also tasked with the responsibility of vanquishing vampires and other threats from the dark world. And it doesn't help that the town that she lives in exists on what's called Hellmouth. So it's very active for monsters, demons, vampires and the like. And she has a plucky group of friends that help her a lot, like Scooby's friends, to do all of those things and not die. And she's awesome, and the show's awesome, even though her name is Buffy. And apparently they're working on rebooting it or bringing it back, because we can't ever just let nice things be nice and die. We have to ruin it. We have to bring it back and ruin it. Have you seen the trailer for Freakier Friday?

Jade of All Jades (20:56)

I have, and it looks so bad.

Susie Carmichael (21:00)

It looks. It looks so bad because I didn't have one anywhere, so I guess I'll talk about that. All right, last one.

Jade of All Jades (21:10)

I'm doing great for now. I'm getting.

Susie Carmichael (21:12)

Actually, you're doing a pretty good job.

Jade of All Jades (21:14)

I'm pretty proud of myself.

Susie Carmichael (21:15)

The only one you got, like, flat out wrong was Bonkers.

Jade of All Jades (21:19)

And the. Well, no, because I was thinking of something called Bonkers, but the Beatle one Was.

Susie Carmichael (21:23)

I was so wrong. So that was wrong. And even the Beetleborg one, you were close. Okay, last one. Ape escape. 60 seconds. What is it?

Jade of All Jades (21:39)

Never heard of this in my life. I'm guessing it's a game where an ape escapes, probably from a zoo. And that begs the question of is it really escaping when you didn't belong there in the first fucking place. But probably the ape was captured and forced to live in captivity and said, you know, I'd actually rather not. And so he exercised his normal ape desires to be free, and everybody else acted like he was the problem, so he probably went around terrorizing everybody, snatching kids, busting into banks, and. And the whole point of this game is to. Is to be the law, to be the feds and go catch this who is simply trying to go home. You can download that on your Giga Pet or whatever the kids was playing. You can, you can play that on your, your, your X Cube or the Nintendo Cube. That's what you can play that on the GameCube. Yeah, GameCube. That one.

Susie Carmichael (22:40)

Okay, well, the GameCube hasn't been manufactured for about 20 or 25.

Jade of All Jades (22:44)

Well, that's what I'm saying. Back then, when it, when it came out in the 90s, that's when y'all, y'all planned it. Y'all played it on that. And your subjects and such PlayStations.

Susie Carmichael (22:55)

So you know what? Close enough. Ape Escape is a series of games where these little apes, these little mischievous apes all break out and get scattered across the world or whatever, and you're tasked as a young player with a net and other funky high tech gadgets, who has to go around these different worlds, similar to like a Mario game, and find these hidden monkeys that are hidden in all kinds of crazy places and all kinds of shenanigans, and you have to catch them with your net and bring them back to places where they won't cause trouble. So good enough.

Jade of All Jades (23:35)

Yeah, I agree.

Susie Carmichael (23:36)

I mean, he wasn't going down to Ralph's and being like, I need two cabbages and some shallots and then getting abducted. But yeah, mine is the same thing.

Jade of All Jades (23:46)

Sure, why not? I feel like the gist was there. So, yeah, I did. Great.

Susie Carmichael (23:51)

Apes Escape.

Jade of All Jades (23:52)

This was wonderful. This was. I really killed this.

Susie Carmichael (23:55)

Yeah, I think I would. In. In total, I give you, like a B.

Jade of All Jades (24:00)

Okay. I accept that.

Susie Carmichael (24:02)

Which I think is like way better than I expected.

Jade of All Jades (24:05)

Same.

Susie Carmichael (24:05)

The Beetleborg one, you really walked into it, but I mean, who in a living fuck was supposed to know what that is?

Jade of All Jades (24:13)

Never heard of it. Doesn't even sound like something I would have watched had I heard of it.

Susie Carmichael (24:17)

So it doesn't sound real big bad Beetle Boys. You made that up.

Jade of All Jades (24:21)

Yeah, but it is fun to something that children do that I really like and adults don't get the chance to do very much is to just make something up for the fun of it. Well, I guess unless you're a pathological liar and then you do it for shits. But the rest of us don't get to just have a prompt like that and let your imagination tell you what to say. So the ones where I didn't know it was quite fun to just my way through it. So yeah, that was the life the.

Susie Carmichael (24:44)

Secret life of Alex Mack.

Jade of All Jades (24:46)

Oh, now this is elite Nickelodeon top tier television. Alex Mack.

Susie Carmichael (24:51)

You would know that one.

Jade of All Jades (24:52)

Of course. Alex Mack. I wanted to be that bitch so bad because she could turn herself into this silvery goo and slither her ass all over the place. It was nowhere Alex Mack couldn't go. And half the time you couldn't see her. No, actually all the time you couldn't see it. The would be like in water. She would like slide her way into the room and then go into the aquarium and sit there and listen to people conversations and it was incredible. I wanted to be Alex Max so bad.

Susie Carmichael (25:20)

She was so fierce.

Jade of All Jades (25:21)

She really was.

Susie Carmichael (25:24)

Why? Actually, let me shut up. That one's wide open for a reboot.

Jade of All Jades (25:31)

No, don't do that. They're gonna it up.

Susie Carmichael (25:33)

Yeah.

Jade of All Jades (25:36)

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Susie Carmichael (28:07)

That's all I really had for the hot box this week. Okay, there's some other things. Tiger woods is dating a Trump because the blue Vanessa. I don't even know which one that is. I don't care, but she ugly. CNN is accusing. Oh, no. Diddy's lawyers are accusing CNN of doctoring the video that came out of him assaulting Cassie.

Jade of All Jades (28:37)

Did they make up the part where he ran out the room and tackled that girl?

Susie Carmichael (28:42)

Like, what?

Jade of All Jades (28:42)

What? What was that? What are lawyers doing any fucking thing they can. They throwing everything at the wall, girl.

Susie Carmichael (28:49)

They're claiming that CNN got hand. Got their hands on the video, bought it, altered the original footage, and then destroyed it. They're saying that they remove the timestamp and then they sped the footage up to make it look like things took place faster than they did, as if like, what's that supposed to do?

Jade of All Jades (29:08)

That doesn't change what happened. Yeah, they speed up the video to get through it. To get through it. Like, we. We're not gonna sit here and watch all 18 minutes of this assault. We're gonna speed up through the parts.

Susie Carmichael (29:19)

Are y'all.

Jade of All Jades (29:20)

Oh, no.

Susie Carmichael (29:21)

Didn't his lawyer just quit or. One of them did.

Jade of All Jades (29:24)

One of them said, I have learned some shit.

Susie Carmichael (29:27)

You need to quit, too. What are you talking about?

Jade of All Jades (29:30)

No, they're doing what they were paid to do, sister. You act like CNN said, let's create an AI so incredible that it will cause this to come out and apologize for his. Like, they didn't. They didn't make him do it. They didn't fake like he. Like he did it when he really didn't. So this argument, this is what lawyers have to do. And this is why I could never be there. There's certain people I could never defend. And. Yeah, what a fucking wreck.

Susie Carmichael (30:06)

Umg, Universal Music Group is filing to dismiss. Dismiss Drake's lawsuit. They argued that Drake's claims are unfounded and just an attempt to recover from a public defeat rather than having a genual legal grievance. They assert that Drake, quote, lost a rap battle that he provoked and in which he will. Universal Music Group, Drake's label, said that he, quote, lost a rap battle that he provoked and in which he willingly participated.

Jade of All Jades (30:46)

Oh, boy. Oh, boy.

Susie Carmichael (30:48)

And they said he resorted to these legal measures, measures to, quote, salve his own wounds. They also called out that Drake once signed a petition condemning the use of rap lyrics in legal proceedings and did.

Jade of All Jades (31:05)

The exact same fucking thing I told y'all.

Susie Carmichael (31:10)

UMG said, oh, you're playing Uno. Oh, this is uno. Oh, that's so interesting. I have eight draw fours.

Jade of All Jades (31:17)

This is like. This is like having to go home and tell your mama that you lost a fight at school. And the fight started because you bullied and provoked somebody over and over and over until they finally said, do it again and I'm gonna beat your ass. And then you did it anyway. And then they beat your ass, and now you gotta go home. And your mama said, that's exactly what the fight you get for trying. That man in the first place lost a rap battle that he provoked and in which he willingly participated. From your own lame.

Susie Carmichael (31:48)

Then you get in trouble, too. Then they take the door off of your motherfucking business and they cut the fucking WI FI off so you can't play Call of Duty. It's like, yes, you got your ass whooped in the streets because you started some shit. You come home crying like we supposed to pat you on the back. No Nigga go up to you.

Jade of All Jades (32:03)

No. You getting punished more at home. No gumbo, Ton, because you've broken so many nigga rules. Black people don't allow you to lose a fight. They don't allow you to be the bully.

Susie Carmichael (32:13)

Yes.

Jade of All Jades (32:13)

And they don't allow you to start it. You supposed to finish it. You not supposed to start it. You're not supposed to pick on people who didn't do to you. And you're not supposed to lose. So you go. Yeah, you. You don't get dinner and you don't get a door. For the next six months, your ass is doorless. Your mama marching you up to the school, making you apologize in front of the class.

Susie Carmichael (32:34)

Yeah, we were going to Cedar Point at the end of the month. But you know what? Now that I think about it, fuck you.

Jade of All Jades (32:44)

The FBI agent is in on it.

Susie Carmichael (32:49)

Apparently, there's audio of Jonathan Majors that was released where he admits to being aggressive towards his ex girlfriend, Grace. I haven't listened to the clip yet, but I read quotes from it. I'll listen to it later. But apparently he says that I'm a quote I'm reading. I've never been aggressive with a woman before. I've never aggressed a woman. I aggress to you. Grace says, then you strangled me and pushed me up against the car. He responds, yes, all those things are under aggressed. Yeah, that's never happened to me. So, I mean, I don't.

Jade of All Jades (33:30)

Didn't we already know that he did this?

Susie Carmichael (33:32)

I. Yeah.

Jade of All Jades (33:33)

Didn't need to hear. We saw. Didn't we? Wasn't there video? It is of him, like, chasing that girl. Not of him hitting her, but.

Susie Carmichael (33:40)

Yeah, this video of them, like. Yeah, this video of, like, the aftermath of it or them running I or something like that.

Jade of All Jades (33:47)

Didn't doubt this ever.

Susie Carmichael (33:48)

Yeah, I didn't really doubt this either.

Jade of All Jades (33:51)

Yeah, the fact that Megan Good married him two days after that is what had me gagged. Like, oh, y'all keeping this whole PR thing going, huh? Y'all said, mm, this is pretty bad.

Susie Carmichael (34:02)

And it was doing great, too, because his new film is coming out soon. The trailer for it looks really, really excellent. Jonathan is a great actor. He's gotten a lot of support from his peers in this comeback attempt because, you know, I saw Whoopi Goldberg say something about him, supportive about him. Michael B. Jordan obviously has spoken up for him. Who was the other person who said something? Somebody Isn't like the Hollywood Reporter or something like that? That was. That was quoted like, you know, they got in trouble. He went to the court, did the thing. Like, what do you. It was kind of like that.

Jade of All Jades (34:42)

They're like, how dare y'all act. How. How dare y'all call that, like a deal breaker. How dare you consider domestic violence to be a deal breaker for accepting and supporting an artist. It's like, it's actually very easy for me because he's. This man is not the only actor. I'm fine.

Susie Carmichael (35:03)

He's not the only great black actor. He's not the only great new or newish black actor with incredible, exciting amounts of potential. Is it a bummer for someone like me who was a huge fan of the acting? Totes. I loved Lovecraft Country. I was very, very, very. Even though I don't give a fuck about Kang the Conqueror, I was interested. Almost like Wicked. It was like, oh, wait, Kang is gonna be a black actor. And, like, a really good black actor.

Jade of All Jades (35:35)

Let's see.

Susie Carmichael (35:36)

Oh, let's see. Yeah, let's see. We got a little preview of it in Loki X. Excellent. So, like, sure. But I think you're right. And I. And we talked about kind of the layers of this and all the little ways that it's specifically intricate and why some people, specifically niggas are kind of like, ah, you know, I don't.

Jade of All Jades (36:00)

I just don't need it that bad. I don't need him that bad. I don't. I don't like his look. Yes. All the situation is true. He's so talented and all that. And there are lots of talented, swole black actors in this world.

Susie Carmichael (36:14)

I don't even think it's slow, but, yeah, I mean, and with the ability to get swole if needed.

Jade of All Jades (36:22)

Right. These niggas can take six months and go eat right and train every day. So it's not a big loss for me. Why y'all are so desperate to hold on to this man is actually what's confusing. I'm not the weird one. Y'all are the weird one.

Susie Carmichael (36:36)

It's. The thing is, it's like, you know, Bill Cosby was going to buy NBC a taste. It's kind of like this whole, like, oh, nigger. Like, really with potential. Blah, blah, blah. Oh, the system. How could we. To a black man. And then there's a white woman who's involved, which makes it all the more.

Jade of All Jades (36:57)

Even less sympathy from black people. Yes.

Susie Carmichael (37:00)

Yeah. But, yeah, I really think it's like the potential and. And all of Those other things. But it's like, y'all didn't push this lady up against the car in defense. You know what I mean? Like, he.

Jade of All Jades (37:14)

He did it, girl.

Susie Carmichael (37:16)

It's gonna have to be what it is.

Jade of All Jades (37:18)

All of this rah rah defense. The system is broken. Is for people who didn't do it. Especially considering the didn't even go to jail.

Susie Carmichael (37:26)

Right. He didn't. He didn't even go to jail. He didn't. He had a brand new hot smoking go to therapy.

Jade of All Jades (37:33)

Right.

Susie Carmichael (37:35)

He has. You know, he lost the MCU thing, which, to be honest with you, even the MCU has a movie that came out last year where they joked, you know, you're coming in at a bit of a low point. So it's not even exactly. Do you feel me? I agree. Like, it was a thing where it was like, ah, God damn, that's a bummer. I was a huge fan. Well, we'll see what God has for him.

Jade of All Jades (37:57)

Yep. Literally, I let it go, but you.

Susie Carmichael (37:59)

Also made me think of something else just a second ago, and I forgot it. I think it has something to do with niggas and the way we consume stuff, but I can't think of where my thought was going there either way.

Jade of All Jades (38:15)

Okay.

Susie Carmichael (38:16)

Yeah. Like I said, he's got a new movie. Oh, yeah. I think this is what I'm thinking of. He's got this new movie come out. He had, like, a lot of his peers and friends who've, like, made headlines for being like, I support him, I'm happy for him. And it seemed like he's around, like, the 10 of having a little Hollywood. There are even rumors that Disney might bring him back for Kang or something like that, or Marvel, whatever. Doubt. But, you know, like, that was what was in the air. And then I woke up this morning and it was like, new audio released. So something in the sauce was like, no.

Jade of All Jades (38:53)

I mean, I actually. I don't know what difference it will make considering we've seen him be weird with her. She has audio recordings of their conversations that I. That's what I had heard. Like, she had set up the voice memos or whatever on the phone and recorded conversations between them where he had been talking about it. Like, at no point. You had to just. It wasn't even a matter of whether he was innocent. It was just whether you thought he deserved to keep working.

Susie Carmichael (39:21)

I think that's it. Yeah.

Jade of All Jades (39:23)

So I don't think this audio is really going to make that much of a difference because it's not like, who is all Of a sudden going to be like, oh, yeah. Now I believe that he did it. Like, I think if you already were like, fuck it, then you still gonna feel that way. Like, oh, well, yeah, he hit that white girl, and I still want him to be gang.

Susie Carmichael (39:40)

So how excited are for you for Will Smith's new album that comes out on the 28th?

Jade of All Jades (39:47)

Gosh.

Susie Carmichael (39:48)

This new album based on a true story by Will Smith, Based on a true story.

Jade of All Jades (39:53)

Is that. That's what the album's called, yeah. Well, I can't say I'm excited. Wilson doesn't really make music that I replay, especially these days. You know, he did have that stretch, baby, that stretch in the 90s and early 2000s that was really iconic.

Susie Carmichael (40:12)

But we're not gonna play.

Jade of All Jades (40:13)

But, yeah.

Susie Carmichael (40:14)

Do you know how many fucking hit records, how many bops that n made from movies? Terrible.

Jade of All Jades (40:19)

So many. And, you know, even though he got clowned for this, did it without cussing, which is even more impressive. Like, y'all can't.

Susie Carmichael (40:28)

That is kind of impressive.

Jade of All Jades (40:29)

Y'all can't. And. And having music that is like, that means that it can go out to kids, it can go to kid audiences, it can go in every movie trailer, et cetera, et cetera, and that's all the more money anyway. Anyway, over the past maybe 10 to 15 years, I can't say Will Smith has done a whole lot that. I am like, oh, yeah, let me listen to that.

Susie Carmichael (40:49)

This is his first album in 20.

Jade of All Jades (40:51)

But didn't he put a single out or something last year? And I was like, yeah, I don't like this.

Susie Carmichael (40:55)

I think that's on this.

Jade of All Jades (40:56)

Yeah.

Susie Carmichael (40:57)

So the one with Big Sean or the other one?

Jade of All Jades (41:00)

I don't think it was with Big Sean. It was. I don't know. I kind of, like, Uplifting, Yes. Like the uplifting positive one. Right, right, right. And I was like, yeah, I see the way. I can't even remember the name of it or what it was about, because it was that it was not that memorable for me.

Susie Carmichael (41:17)

I think you can make it, but.

Jade of All Jades (41:21)

Will I listen to this? Honestly? Probably not. Not unless a lot of people whose music tastes I trust are like, girl, you gotta listen to that Will Smith album. I'm probably not gonna. Okay, well, then, no, I'm happy for him. Good for you. I still believe you were right to rock Chris Rock. I don't think he was wrong for that at all. Like, I support you and Jada's open, really. I feel like, you know, as long as consenting adults are making their own Rules. I have no problem with that. So I'm not anti Will Smith. Did you see him and Ashley? Him and Ashley. Him and Tatiana Ali do the Dochi? Wasn't that so cute?

Susie Carmichael (41:54)

I mean, Dochi did that. Well, I guess they did each other, right?

Jade of All Jades (41:58)

They all did each other.

Susie Carmichael (41:59)

Okay, I will listen to the Will Smith album just to be able to say that I didn't have an opinion on it. I do expect that I will respect the album because I respect Will Smith as a musician. That's how I was introduced to him. I'm a millennial. Like, I remember before Fresh Prince.

Jade of All Jades (42:28)

God, Therons just don't understand.

Susie Carmichael (42:31)

Jesus. I don't want to talk about it. So.

Jade of All Jades (42:37)

From that to the Fresh Prince theme song to 900 hit Imagine being.

Susie Carmichael (42:44)

From where I'm from and having.

Jade of All Jades (42:46)

Oh, God, that Miami.

Susie Carmichael (42:47)

Welcome to Miami Bimini. And here my black ass is like, well. Well, that song was everything.

Jade of All Jades (42:59)

It was. And it was the soundtrack to spring break for a long time.

Susie Carmichael (43:03)

Jesus Christ.

Jade of All Jades (43:04)

And Will Smith ran the summer blockbuster, the box office. He ran it for, like, years.

Susie Carmichael (43:10)

I'm just saying. Even if the movie was bad.

Jade of All Jades (43:12)

Yeah, but a lot of them are good.

Susie Carmichael (43:14)

Wild, Wild west with Cisco.

Jade of All Jades (43:16)

Okay, that was bad. But Men in Black was good. The movie was good. Oh, oh, we going straight. That was bad. Bagger Vance was bad, but he has some.

Susie Carmichael (43:32)

Yeah, he did. Yeah. I mean, movie Wise girl, please, don't even even start. Don't even start. Don't even start. Pursuit.

Jade of All Jades (43:42)

I don't think I remember that one.

Susie Carmichael (43:44)

The Pursuit of fucking Happiness.

Jade of All Jades (43:45)

Oh, I thought. I still thought we were on songs. Never mind. Yes. Pursuit of Happiness with Jaden.

Susie Carmichael (43:55)

But, yeah, I'm definitely gonna take a listen to this. I listened to Slash, watched the video for the song. I believe Beautiful Scars is the one with Big Sean. And in the video, the video is, like, based on the Matrix.

Jade of All Jades (44:11)

Oh, okay.

Susie Carmichael (44:11)

Because he was apparently tapped to play Neo in the Matrix and he turned it down eventually, I guess they gave it to Keanu Reeves, obviously, who's the star of that. And so he kind of joked about that decision being a mistake or, oh, I should have. Blah, blah, blah. Let me do this video that's based on Men in Black. At the beginning of it, I was like, okay, yeah, this is kind of what I expected. It's Will Smith Falls. Cool. It's sounds like Will Smith. Big Sean comes in there, fucks it up. Big Sean's a great rapper. The design is cool. And he really has, like, another verse where he's, again, kind of doing the like, believe and you can achieve and you just have to breathe and see. It's like, yeah, on the one hand, I think because of timing and all these other things, I'm kind of like, all right, well, but then I was like, you know, the little Disco Elysium part of my mind was like, now what if this was K Dot?

Jade of All Jades (45:13)

Mm, interesting.

Susie Carmichael (45:15)

What if this was K Dot rapping this exact same shit? You'd be like, oh, this nigga cares so deep.

Jade of All Jades (45:24)

Well, I would first have to hear K Dot rap like that. And that's the part I don't think we'll get to.

Susie Carmichael (45:33)

This is like the meaning, the intent behind it.

Jade of All Jades (45:36)

I get you. I do. I feel you.

Susie Carmichael (45:39)

But, yeah, I'm gonna listen to it just to see what is gay paying. And I'll report back then. I didn't expect him to drop a full ass album, but, yeah, why not? Jazzy Jackson will be on it. Jack Ross, Teyana Taylor will be on it. That's fine. And I hope that he does some more visuals with it because Will Smith is naturally funny. And also the people over at Westbrook. Is it Westbrook?

Jade of All Jades (46:07)

Oh, yes.

Susie Carmichael (46:07)

His production company, they have, like, they have thumbs on visual effects.

Jade of All Jades (46:15)

Oh, yeah, they do.

Susie Carmichael (46:15)

And light.

Jade of All Jades (46:16)

Very good.

Susie Carmichael (46:18)

So that should be fun.

Jade of All Jades (46:20)

Indeed.

Susie Carmichael (46:22)

Asap. Rocky declares which side he's on. And the Kendrick Lamar and Drake girl gasps. Yes. I'm guaranteed he's not on the side of the person who dissed him and his child's mom.

Jade of All Jades (46:33)

Right, right. That's pretty easy.

Susie Carmichael (46:37)

So, yeah, the only other thing I was gonna talk about was Tatiana Ali and Will Smith remaking the dance that Ashley and Will did in favor. I gotta say, the first season, it.

Jade of All Jades (46:50)

Was second episode, Fresh Spreads.

Susie Carmichael (46:52)

Wow. Yeah. It is episode two.

Jade of All Jades (46:54)

It was the second they said that on the TikTok, that it was the show they shot right after the. The episode they shot right after the show got picked up. So that's just crazy that something from that long ago, the children who were still 12 years away from being born, have found it and turned it into something. Yeah, it's something else.

Susie Carmichael (47:15)

That's very sweet. So, yeah, they were, like, doing the dance from it, and just like the show, she's there. Tatiana, Ashley is there, you know, vibing dancing. Will comes in behind her and starts mimicking the dance that she's doing. And they're dancing to Dochi, and then all of a sudden, in comes Dochi, and then they start doing that dance. And I was just like. My heart was already positively enlarged by the nostalgia that Was already taking place.

Jade of All Jades (47:49)

Yeah.

Susie Carmichael (47:49)

Between these two people from a show that I literally grew up watching. And then in comes one of my absolute new favorite faves to join her. So they've all met, they've all exchanged, They've all Kiki'd. I just. It made my heart smile bigly.

Jade of All Jades (48:07)

Yes.

Susie Carmichael (48:08)

Dochi deserves everything that she's given anymore. Have you seen that bitch pumping blood out of the fucking catwalks? And.

Jade of All Jades (48:17)

Oh, yes. Have you seen her? I didn't know where you were going with that. Yes, yes, I have.

Susie Carmichael (48:22)

Look at her dumping blood cells out of the Runway.

Jade of All Jades (48:26)

Incredible.

Susie Carmichael (48:27)

That bitch is beautiful.

Jade of All Jades (48:29)

She really is. What a star.

Susie Carmichael (48:31)

And I clocked it back during, like, spooky coochie whatever, like, back in the day. She just has. Her complexion is gorgeous. Her face is beautiful. Hair, no hair, makeup. No makeup. That bitch is fine.

Jade of All Jades (48:44)

Very.

Susie Carmichael (48:45)

And so I'm. And you. You actually really kicked niggas in the throat last week too, when you were talking about her and Ms. Milana. Hot ones.

Jade of All Jades (48:55)

Oh.

Susie Carmichael (48:56)

And N having so much to say that weren't gassing up how very visibly fine she is in the first fucking place. And who could never have a chance with her in the first place. Anyway, I'm glad that we are sitting in the theater. That is Dochy. As fine as all the fucks.

Jade of All Jades (49:12)

Absolutely.

Susie Carmichael (49:13)

And on top of that, musically, what are you gonna do about it? Nothing. Nothing, nothing, nothing.

Jade of All Jades (49:19)

Because she's an excellent rapper as well. And if y'all listened to her Grammy award winning album, you would know that. Same way you would have known that she's queer because she talks about girls as well. But you didn't listen to the music.

Susie Carmichael (49:31)

She even has a song where she talks about a guy who guys like. I don't. Yes, but you're right. A lot of the girls just got here. And I guess because me, I'm so bitchless, like, all right, I discovered. I'll just throw a name out because it's on the page. I'm looking at Benson Boone. I discovered him yesterday.

Jade of All Jades (49:53)

Example, okay?

Susie Carmichael (49:55)

And I'm like, oh, this song is really cool. Oh, this album's really cool. I'm then gonna be like, oh, it's three albums or mixtapes before this. Let me go listen to some of them.

Jade of All Jades (50:04)

Yes. If I like what you put out now, I'm gonna go listen to your old shit as well.

Susie Carmichael (50:10)

I remember when two ON or one of those Tinashe songs came out, it wasn't too on. It was a song that she released not long after that. Definitely first Album.

Jade of All Jades (50:20)

Okay.

Susie Carmichael (50:20)

I was like, wow, this is really good. I like Tuon, but this is really good. And a lot of people were like, girl, her mixtapes.

Jade of All Jades (50:28)

Yep.

Susie Carmichael (50:29)

Go back. I was like, oh, okay. And I went back and listened to her mixtapes and listened to a completely different person. So, yeah, to that point, it's just kind of like, where y'all don't.

Jade of All Jades (50:40)

No curiosity. There's no curiosity. How do you learn? Do you have new experiences? Do you open yourself up to multiple possibilities? I just don't. You are not creative or fun in the least.

Susie Carmichael (50:54)

Or fun.

Jade of All Jades (50:56)

Neither one. Emily, you need a. You need a sort of curiosity about life in order to find any joy in this. How do you hear? Like, I just don't understand how you hear somebody. You're like, oh, I like this. And then what? You just. This is an established artist. You don't have to wait for something new. Like, you can. You know, you don't say to yourself, what else has she been in? Like, maybe let me Google her. Maybe, let me see. Like, let me follow her on Instagram. Like, is there no. Do y'all just want to get these takes out? Like, you just want to argue? Is that what it is? It's tired, but, yeah, I want to.

Susie Carmichael (51:29)

See her walk moogle so bad.

Jade of All Jades (51:32)

She is really stunning, like, and she seems to be built for fame. Not many famous people are, but she seems to really be loving it.

Susie Carmichael (51:40)

That makes sense.

Jade of All Jades (51:42)

She does.

Susie Carmichael (51:42)

That makes sense. I mean, denial is a River is another one where she kind of talks about the ups and downs and the craziness and the adjustment of having to be thrust into this position and all of the weird things that come with it when you're not from nowhere near Hollywood or New York and everything. Yeah, but I think that to what you're saying. Yeah, like, yeah, she's built for it. She is.

Jade of All Jades (52:09)

She is surrounded by throngs of fans, and she's taking selfies and signing shit. She's like, I love being famous.

Susie Carmichael (52:17)

She works very, very hard. The music. Don't miss.

Jade of All Jades (52:21)

She works for this.

Susie Carmichael (52:22)

She can sing.

Jade of All Jades (52:24)

She intentionally went after this, and she is great grateful for it. So, yeah, I love to see it. I really do need her in Moog.

Susie Carmichael (52:31)

I want to see if I was like, oh, if I was a woman or a fem and, like, just wealthy.

Jade of All Jades (52:40)

Yeah.

Susie Carmichael (52:41)

I would wear Mugler, like, all. I'd wear it to the grocery store and they do vamp tramp. I just want to just. Robot Star Trek prostitute.

Jade of All Jades (52:57)

Absolutely.

Susie Carmichael (52:57)

I want that every day of my life. Mugler Margiela is all I would wear.

Jade of All Jades (53:02)

What an aesthetic.

Susie Carmichael (53:03)

Matter of fact, why? Why even imagine another reality? Why don't I just work on being wealthy and just wearing Mugler anyway?

Jade of All Jades (53:11)

You can. You certainly can do whatever you want to in this one life.

Susie Carmichael (53:17)

Of course I can.

Jade of All Jades (53:18)

Yep.

Susie Carmichael (53:18)

I wore Muglers for Renaissance.

Jade of All Jades (53:20)

Because you're just that rich.

Susie Carmichael (53:22)

Because it called for it and because I was great in it.

Jade of All Jades (53:25)

I mean, Renaissance did indeed call for Mugler. It did. It was appropriate.

Susie Carmichael (53:31)

I love that. Okay, that's it for the hot box this week. We'll take a break.

Jade of All Jades (53:38)

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Susie Carmichael (55:38)

And we're back. It's time for the listener letters.

Jade of All Jades (55:41)

Yes it is. Send your questions to ask the read gmail.com we may read them aloud on the show. We have an update this week from Miles. If you Remember, back in 2023, Miles emailed us because he was cat sitting for his ex and then the and then gave the cat away to his niece. And yeah, this was a pretty iconic letter. Miles did finally email us back and said I wanted to give an update. I saw a comment on Spotify asking did we ever get an update from the cat thief? So I figured better late than never. Okay, I want y'all to know that I did not take Yalls advice. When the episode aired, I had already sent a picture of the cat to my sister to see if she would consider a cat as opposed to a kitten. I told her the cat needed to be rehomed. She ended up showing that picture to my niece and it was love at first sight.

Susie Carmichael (56:30)

Sure was.

Jade of All Jades (56:31)

The next day Yalls episode came out and I was conflicted. But but it came down to my niece's happiness versus my ex's happiness. And so that was an easy decision.

Susie Carmichael (56:44)

Yeah.

Jade of All Jades (56:44)

That weekend I took the cat and some wings to my sister's house and we all had a great time.

Susie Carmichael (56:49)

And some wings.

Jade of All Jades (56:50)

Y'all sat around and ate wings. Y'all probably shared the wings with the cat.

Susie Carmichael (56:55)

No, seriously. And garlic rolls. I hate.

Jade of All Jades (57:01)

Like. Okay, fast forward two weeks later I started to notice new flyers for the cat in my neighborhood, not the ones I posted, which meant my ex was still searching for him while I was over her. While I was still mad at him, my conscience did start to eat at me. Around this time, my sister called me and told me that while they took the cat to the vet to make sure she had her shots, they found out it was pregnant. What y'all were right about is the hoeing around because we said that cat has been out there getting dick down. All right. So at this point I had to break down and tell my sister the truth. I came over with wings again that weekend and told her everything. She honestly thought it was hilarious, but that it was up to have my niece raising a stolen cat. We agreed that we would care for the cat throughout its pregnancy and then have my niece keep one of the kittens. So that is what we did. My niece named the kitten Robota. She's weird. I love it. After it was another two months before we were cleared to separate the mom from the kittens. Understandable. Once I had the cat back, I reached out to one of my friends to have him return the cat to my ex. We gave Davis, my ex, the story that the cat was found in a nearby alley. I wasn't there for the drop off, but I heard he was ecstatic to have his cat back. So in the end, all's well that ends well. Also, Kip Fury. The cat's name is not Binks or Garfield or Boots. Her name is Jada.

Susie Carmichael (58:25)

I knew those weren't the damn cat's name.

Jade of All Jades (58:27)

Jada's great, though. All my best, Miles. Miles, this was really amazing. I imagine.

Susie Carmichael (58:39)

I don't even know.

Jade of All Jades (58:40)

Imagine that cat going home and being like, nigga, I have had the craziest two years of my fucking life. You dropped me off at that house, and everything went to hell from there. Imagine, imagine your parents dropping you off before they go on vacation, and then the next two years, you get lost, fuck around, have kids, and then magically go back home. Oh, my God.

Susie Carmichael (59:14)

The fact that your sister thought it was hilarious was, like, she can't keep the cat. Like, music is looking for it, right?

Jade of All Jades (59:21)

I mean, I. I mean, is it hilarious? I. I kind of think so.

Susie Carmichael (59:28)

Yes. Yes. It's very, very feeling like a bad person.

Jade of All Jades (59:32)

But this. Because if somebody took Lainey from me for two years, I would. You would be on my list for life. Like, I.

Susie Carmichael (59:38)

Dogs are different.

Jade of All Jades (59:39)

I. I'll kill you. I'll kill you. So dogs are different. If I put myself in Davis's. Because how. No. People love their cats the way we love our dogs. They do.

Susie Carmichael (59:51)

Yeah. But dogs love us the way that we love our dogs. Cats are like, you crack open that goddamn food, baby cakes, and I'll figure out the rest.

Jade of All Jades (60:03)

Oh, boy. What were y'all calling Jada? What? Like, did your Reese. Did your niece rename Jada? Or did y'all called it Jada the whole time? This is insane.

Susie Carmichael (60:12)

That would be fierce if they did.

Jade of All Jades (60:16)

Yeah. All's well done.

Susie Carmichael (60:17)

She got a cat.

Jade of All Jades (60:18)

She got a cat. You returned the cat like you were supposed to. You took a couple of years, but you did what you were supposed to do. Um, so. Yeah, I. I'm honestly, I'm thinking about your ex. I would be. Nigga, I. You wouldn't be able to. You wouldn't be able to sleep. Well, as long as I'm still roaming this earth. That's all I'll say.

Susie Carmichael (60:42)

I mean, we lied. You said that they found the cat or whatever and they got back to him and it sounded like the niggas just excited he got the cat back. But my God, if he ever happens to.

Jade of All Jades (60:50)

Listen, if he finds out, right? If he finds out. Especially now. You done told us the cat's name. You know, you done gave all this identifying information.

Susie Carmichael (60:58)

I mean, he sounds like the type to really not give a and dare that to do something about it, but we are just saying yes.

Jade of All Jades (61:03)

Well, thank you, Miles. We really do appreciate this update. How incredible if you have sent us a letter and you're like, oh my God, wait, I need to let them know what happened. Please do that. Follow up with us over@askthereadgmail.com. our first letter this week is from Faith, who says this question is for Kid Fury. Have you read Icky the Witch? I C h I. Have you heard of that?

Susie Carmichael (61:28)

No.

Jade of All Jades (61:28)

Okay, so she says, I'm not certain if you read manga, but if you don't, I recommend this one. Icky the Witch is a new Shonen jump fantasy manga, and the best character in the city is a black woman named Descaris. She's essentially the Gojo Saturu of the series. If you haven't read it, please do and let us know what you think.

Susie Carmichael (61:50)

Okay, I'll definitely check it out. I'm looking it up now. And it does seem like the second character is Descaris, an abitual witch, abyssal witch, and widely known as the most.

Jade of All Jades (62:03)

Powerful witch and the Gojo Satu Sabbly.

Susie Carmichael (62:07)

Yeah, that's from Jujutsu Kaizen, someone who's incredibly, unspeakably powerful.

Jade of All Jades (62:14)

Okay.

Susie Carmichael (62:15)

Series takes place in a world where monsters composed of magic called magics exist, specialized hunters called witches and obtain magic from them after performing a trial. But it's thought only women can become witches. A young boy called Itchy, who lives in Druid Mountain and hunts for a living, defeats the magic and ends up being the first male witch.

Jade of All Jades (62:35)

Okay, work, work, young Itchy. Thanks, Faith. Our next letter comes from Ashley, who says, hey, y'all. My partner and I are in an open relationship, and a few weeks ago I met up with someone and had a great time. Well, the guy called me the next day to tell me that he had a cold sore pop up and that I should get tested for herpes. He didn't tell me about his cold swords but that's a whole other issue. The problem is that I wasn't really experiencing any symptoms while waiting to get tested, because you have to wait at least a week to see if you have the antibodies. I was upset and frustrated, and my friends consoled me and made me feel better. But this is where it gets tricky. While I went to my friends for support, there is one friend I didn't tell named Amy. The reason I didn't tell her is because she's fairly religious, and I say this because she really values monogamy and purity and all that. I was scared that she would view me differently or as if I was dirty. So I wanted to wait until I got more information and was less sensitive because I really need compassion instead of judgment. Well, every time I went to tell her, I didn't. I was afraid of ruining the atmosphere or making her upset, so I just didn't say anything. After a week, I still wasn't showing any symptoms and my friends were hyping me up, making me think that I maybe didn't even have it. And I was so convinced that I didn't, that I didn't catch myself from making a mistake. This past weekend was Amy's birthday, and we went out and got drinks to celebrate it. I didn't think about it in the moment, but I took a sip of her drink and forgot about my potential diagnosis. On the following Tuesday, I did get a positive result for Herpes Simplex 1. I was heartbroken, but even more so when I realized what I had done over the weekend. And I forgot that sharing drinks is one way to spread it. Because I didn't have any symptoms, I didn't think twice about it. I felt awful because I share a group chat with the friends I told and Amy, not to mention that two of them are her childhood friends. But I had to specifically come clean to her because I tested positive. She was understandably upset that I put her health at risk and said she needed time to think because I crossed a few boundaries. Amy has become one of my closest friends in the past couple years, and we've been friends for about four. She's very dear to me, and this negligence has potentially ruined my relationship with her. If she decides to stay my friend, I don't know how our relationship will change, and I fear she will still see me as dirty. I wake up feeling super guilty every day. My question is, should I keep my hopes up that things will work out, but accept that our friendship may never be the same, or should I just accept that this friendship Is over. Love, you guys. You got me through my hardest years. Thanks, Ashley.

Susie Carmichael (64:57)

Oh, Ashley, this sucks. Well, I understand you feeling like, you know, guilty and feeling like you lost this friend, and maybe there's, you know, this aspect of shame and all of these things, but honestly, I don't think that those feelings right now are productive in any case, or conducive to anybody getting better. It'd be one thing if you knew about this. Ain't say nothing, ain't really planned to say nothing, ain't give a fuck or something like that. But you got the information. You shared the information with the person who it was most relevant to. They had boundaries, set boundaries, felt like you crossed boundaries. And so they're understandably taking their time and their space. But I think all that said, you kind of did what you were supposed to do after making the mistake. So I think that all you can do now is learn from it, apply it to the future, and just try to be better. Beating up on yourself and feeling like shit when you already took accountability is not really gonna help you out any. It's not to say, like, go out into the world and be like, oh, well, I said sorry, so. No, no, no. It is what it is. You know, analyze the situation and figure out ways that it cannot happen again. And then be nice to yourself. You fucked up. You realized you fucked up when you. After it happened, you felt like shit, you apologized. All you can do is just be better. To me.

Jade of All Jades (66:51)

Yeah, I. I agree. I think the only real lesson here to learn is to not share drinks, because anybody can carry the virus and be asymptomatic. And this is why one of the things, like, growing up, they tell us, wash your hands, keep your hands to yourself. Don't share drinks, don't share makeup. Don't share. This is exactly why they tell us to do those things. So true. I wouldn't. I. I think what Kip here is saying about, like, beating yourself up constantly is really valid because there's a certain amount of, like, we do need to hold ourselves accountable. But if all you do is shame yourself for making mistakes, then you don't give yourself the opportunity to grow and change and make the. The. The sort of evolution that you need to make in the first place. So you can't. There's a. There's a line of, like, holding yourself accountable versus, like, at this point, you're bullying yourself, and what are you supposed to do? Like, you can't win. So I think other than that, yeah, this is you. It sounds like you feel A disproportionate amount of guilt. Like, some of the words you're using here is like, you know, you wake up with this heavy weight of guilt every day. She might not even, you might not have passed it to her. But again, this is, this is a, this is a mistake that people make. Like, it's just, it's not a reason to like, call yourself some terrible person. And, and she sounds. I know you said she's one of your closest friends, but the fact that you were like, I'm not even going to tell you about this diagnosis because you're like all churchy and everything. Like, she really values monogamy and purity and all that. Baby, anybody, the. Anybody can get herpes. This, this stigma around it of like, well, you must be dirty, you must be a hoe. You must not be monogamous. You must be this, this, this, like, girl. It is just a virus. It's just a virus. It doesn't have to mean that there's something wrong with you or you're a bad person. So she already sounds kind of judgmental. The fact that you didn't want to go to her with this, to me is a sign that she's not really that close of a friend. She might just be one of your closest ones. But you had other people that you felt like you could talk to about this because you wouldn't be judged, right? The fact that you were like, I'm not gonna tell her because I have a feeling judgment is gonna be the first thing she say. I, I probably wouldn't be. I mean, I, I get what you're feeling, but if our friendship was never the change, right? If our friendship was never gonna be the same, then that might be for the best. It really might. Because she doesn't sound like she's that great of a friend, to be very, very honest.

Susie Carmichael (69:34)

Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

Jade of All Jades (69:35)

Everybody should stop drinking other people's drinks. Stop sharing blunts. Everybody should. Everybody should. If you don't want all the possible germs that exist in another person's being to come into your being, then don't share these things with other people.

Susie Carmichael (69:52)

Something to think about.

Jade of All Jades (69:53)

All of us. That goes for everybody. So thanks, Ashley, for the letter. Shall we do another one or should.

Susie Carmichael (70:05)

We wrap it up? I don't really have her read.

Jade of All Jades (70:09)

Okay, so our last letter this week comes from Lala, who says, I'm a 43 year old lesbian from Philly. My wife and I are doing our best to raise my son and keep him on the right track. He was Conceived before I was brave enough to come out and I tried to be with his father just to give him a two parent home and it didn't work because I'm gay and his father was a misogynistic piece of shit. Things. Things ended when My son was 6 years old. Sorry, was 6 years old. My son has repeatedly reached out to his father with no response. And when he did get a response, it was from his father's girlfriend who told my son that he wasn't wanted. This of course planted seeds of doubt and sadness in my son. And now that 6 year old, now that 6 year old is a very, very angry 14 year old who hurts himself and can't control his emotions. I've taken him to therapy since he was 11. He's been on antidepressants. We even do family therapy. He doesn't want to open up to the therapist. He has no respect for black men. And because of how his father has. Oh, and he has no respect for black men because of how his father has treated him. And he hates that I'm gay. He gets teased a lot at school for having gay, a gay mom. And he desperately wants a male, female, two parent household. I think he doesn't respect me and I'm exhausted trying to get through to him about his behavior. He's always suspended because of his outbursts at school. He gets triggered by teachers who at times say things that are out of line. I can't keep missing work or leaving work early because he did something. He's also expressed interest in joining Islam because he said he liked the discipline aspect. So far he hasn't followed up on pursuing it further. My wife is a veteran who suggested family therapy for us but doesn't have any other ideas of how to help him besides grounding him. My question is, what do you all think? What do y'all think I should do? Do you have any advice you can share for black mothers raising angry sons or resources? Thanks, Lala. Oh man, I, I think, gosh, this is. I hate you niggas who hate your kids.

Susie Carmichael (72:16)

There's so much going on here. This poor baby makes me pretty upset.

Jade of All Jades (72:22)

Yeah, his, your, his father's girlfriend told him he wasn't wanted.

Susie Carmichael (72:28)

Both of you fucking true.

Jade of All Jades (72:30)

I understand why this child has anger issues. Yes, I do. I understand being rejected by a parent and not even directly by that parent, but from somebody that the parent chose to have in their life over you.

Susie Carmichael (72:43)

Are we all crazy at the age of six can't have children because it's like, oh, she Said what? Oh, don't worry. The car is gassed up. I have three Glocks and a sword in it.

Jade of All Jades (72:56)

Let's get shoving.

Susie Carmichael (72:57)

Let's go.

Jade of All Jades (72:57)

You will never see or hear from that lady.

Susie Carmichael (72:59)

Or murder. Bloodied, aggressive, visceral carnage. The both of them. Who the living mother fuck do you and this bitch think that y'all are right?

Jade of All Jades (73:12)

Exactly.

Susie Carmichael (73:14)

And that's. And let me tell you something, Cardi with the braids. Forever. I'm talking about forever. I don't give a fuck whose face Iyanla plants into the dirt out back. I am going to beat your ass every time I see you, bitch. Yeah, I'm sorry. Continue.

Jade of All Jades (73:31)

No, this is all valid.

Susie Carmichael (73:34)

Met my own girl who was like, oh, I just had three kids. I have a newborn. I'm incredibly postpartum and doing the best I can. And my husband comes home from work and basically tell me I ain't shit and I need to grow the fuck up. And I was like, oh, you should shoot and kill him. Oh, wait, no, I can't say that. That's how I feel.

Jade of All Jades (73:54)

Yeah. I. Because the urge is there to protect this completely innocent person who didn't deserve the. That comes from these unhealed adults. And that is so many more people than y'all know. Oh, God.

Susie Carmichael (74:07)

Yeah.

Jade of All Jades (74:09)

You might have even had to do family therapy anyway because of him being raised in a lesbian household and not that. Not being accepted by his peers, Stuff like that. Him being teased for having gay moms. That.

Susie Carmichael (74:22)

Yeah.

Jade of All Jades (74:23)

Can't be easy at that age where kids desperately want to find out who they are, and they learn that through their social groups.

Susie Carmichael (74:29)

So, yeah.

Jade of All Jades (74:33)

This. Okay, he's been. You said he's been in therapy since he was 11, and you all do family therapy, but he doesn't want to open up to the therapist. Okay, I would. Okay, you don't want to open up. I. I would need more information. Like, is it that you simply don't want to talk, or is it something about this therapist? Kind of like how you said he is always suspended because of outbursts at school, and he gets triggered by teachers who say things that are out of line. Like, what do you mean by this? Are they. Are the teachers, like, coming for him? Like, does he need to be removed from this school?

Susie Carmichael (75:10)

Being challenged?

Jade of All Jades (75:12)

Yes. Yes. Are they being disrespectful or are they challenging him? There is a fine line. And a child with anger issues probably cannot distinguish between the two of them.

Susie Carmichael (75:22)

Yes.

Jade of All Jades (75:23)

So, yes, Crystal, you're going to stay in therapy. You're Gonna have to stay.

Susie Carmichael (75:31)

Oh, look at that. We're not going anywhere. Okay, so next.

Jade of All Jades (75:36)

You are going to have to stay in therapy. But again, if it's an issue of the therapist, you know, every therapist is not for everybody. If we need to find a different one or you may I. Family therapy. You don't really say whether that's going well. I don't see any reason to stop that. But what I really, I don't have the answers for, like what will quote unquote fix or heal your son. That's just going to take time and continuous effort. And all I can say is I know he is trying the out of your nerves right now. I know he is. Because you are. You didn't abandon him. You didn't tell him he wasn't shit and wasn't worthy and didn't. But you as the present parent have to bear all the brunt.

Susie Carmichael (76:21)

You're the punch.

Jade of All Jades (76:22)

Yes, yes. And this is what it means to be a parent like this. This is you take on this responsibility and so there is. I, I know you are weary. Whatever self care you need for, for you if you need therapy without your son present. Because you. I, I'm almost 100% positive you need a safe place where you can say I am fucking sick of this teenager and his bullshit taking his shit out on me. I didn't fucking do it, nigga. Like, I, I know you need a space to say that safely and family therapy in front of his face is not, is not it.

Susie Carmichael (76:56)

So I just thought of probably because we just watched it on Patreon and it's my favorite movie, one of my favorites, Kingdom Come. Where have you seen that yet?

Jade of All Jades (77:04)

Of course. Wait, the old ass. Kingdom Come.

Susie Carmichael (77:07)

Yeah. Cool.

Jade of All Jades (77:08)

Jada. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

Susie Carmichael (77:09)

Okay. When Shareese, Jada, after she finds out about Bernice and she locks herself in the closet and there's just that one little light coming down and she's on her niece praying with tears coming down her face and she's like, oh God. Like that. Like that. Yes, I didn't lie. That whole movie is fantastic. But like literally that like I know you just gotta go into that closet with your gay. Sometimes it just be like, God, Lord.

Jade of All Jades (77:38)

You see this demon seat? You don't want to say that about your child, of course, but he has to be frying your nerves.

Susie Carmichael (77:46)

Oh, in the closet.

Jade of All Jades (77:49)

In the closet. Oh, yes, but you're right.

Susie Carmichael (77:54)

It's like you already 14, which means you were going to be tap dancing under my living nerves anyway. Yep, you sure were but now you have all of these other really uncom. Really complicated and unfair situations in your life, most of which ain't got nothing to do with me.

Jade of All Jades (78:12)

Right?

Susie Carmichael (78:12)

Like the negative ones anyway, right? Here I am just being gay. That's not a problem. But you believe it is a problem because people, of course, are making you believe to it that it's a problem. Even though I'm the present one, I'm the one who cares. I'm the one who's making sure that your ass is taken care of and that your head is over. And even my wife is invested in doing so.

Jade of All Jades (78:36)

Yeah.

Susie Carmichael (78:37)

Okay. I don't even know when the last time you spoke to your daddy, but your daddy's bitch got on the phone to tell you that you weren't valuable. So me getting the anger is not really sensible. But.

Jade of All Jades (78:48)

Yeah, but you're the target because you're the parent. Right? That's not even something that's appropriate to go tell your kid. Because quite frankly, the job of a parent is to handle the child's emotions and teach them how to handle their. Your child just has such extreme emotions because of trauma that you need outside help. So the most important thing is to not give up on that help. If the. If it's a matter of finding a different therapist, somebody who he can actually connect with, or maybe it just takes time. I worked with a couple of teenagers who were. One was forced to go to therapy. And initially they were like, girl, the I don't need therapy. Them niggas need therapy. And it turned out that they actually did need therapy. She was. Yeah, she didn't need it as much as they did. She was right. But anyway. But anyway.

Susie Carmichael (79:38)

But she went and she found this.

Jade of All Jades (79:40)

Out and she kept coming to session with me. And I as the adult, the therapist, the semi professional caregiver, had to have unlimited patience for this teenager who was being forced to be here to come and get comfortable enough to open up to me. She wasn't abusive. She didn't hurt me, she didn't threaten me. She just was not interested in opening up. And so. Okay, okay. We just have to be consistent. We have to be consistent.

Susie Carmichael (80:11)

This is a teenager.

Jade of All Jades (80:12)

Yes.

Susie Carmichael (80:14)

This battle might be taking place uphill. It very likely will be. So I have to come into that situation with what you just said, with unlimited patience and preparation for this to be a process, because it's what's best for that person.

Jade of All Jades (80:30)

Yes, mental health care professionals have that responsibility and parents have that responsibility. There is a certain amount of. You're going to have to be as much patience as it requires to raise teenagers. You need triple that. And that's why I'm really emphasizing. Continue the care with your son and make sure you are really investing in you. Your own individual therapy, your own, you know, workouts, your own whatever you need, the meditation, your own hobbies that you do by yourself or with your wife. Like, make sure you are pouring into you because this is hard. And you're going to have to stay the course with him if you want him to. To come out on the other end of this anger, learning how to manage it and deal with his grief. This child is brokenhearted at the. At the. At the bottom of all this, at the core of it, this is a baby who was rejected profoundly by one of his parents and is very, very devastated by that.

Susie Carmichael (81:27)

Very devastated, very, very hurt. Feeling abandoned. And that is a time in your life where your mind, your brain is not developed and he's not even for you to understand or process that. Yeah, you may never.

Jade of All Jades (81:43)

Yeah, I mean, that's true. And he's not even feeling abandoned. He actually was abandoned. His father actually did.

Susie Carmichael (81:49)

Right.

Jade of All Jades (81:49)

So it's like it's not even just his perception that really happened to him. This poor baby, he's really going through a lot and then having this gay mom and not being accepted by his peers and all this. So that's what I'm saying. There may be different things. Maybe he needs a new school, new environment, new therapist, other stuff. But you. I think what's most important is that you keep trying, keep trying to figure it out.

Susie Carmichael (82:14)

Cool. Distant cousin.

Jade of All Jades (82:15)

Don't you know? And don't give up on your son. If it. If it crosses the line into, like, physical abuse against you or your wife or children, animals, that's something else entirely. But until then, you are gonna. If you know how to regulate your emotions, you're going to have to model that for him. If you don't know how to regulate your emotions, you're going to have to learn because you can't teach something you don't know.

Susie Carmichael (82:41)

Amen.

Jade of All Jades (82:42)

And stay in therapy. Stay in therapy. Do not leave therapy unless you go into another therapist. Bless. Bless you. As y'all figured.

Susie Carmichael (82:54)

And maybe even one, at one point, in the simplest one sentence, two sentences when he's all upset or something, you can even say to him within the process of what Crystal is saying, continuing, or maybe even say to him, I'm not giving up on you. I don't know what this is. I don't know how exactly we're Getting through it. I know a lot of the shit that I say. Not like this. A lot of the things that I say. Maybe sometimes you don't even receive it because of everything that's going on. But just so you know and so that it is said, I'm not going anywhere and I'm not giving up on you.

Jade of All Jades (83:30)

So you mad at me? Cause I'm gay and I like, I. You're mad at me because of my sexual orientation. But that's not going to stop me from being the mother that you deserve. I am here for you. That is. That is your job. Again, this takes a lot. Jesus Christ.

Susie Carmichael (83:50)

It takes a lot. But I promise you, for a lot of people, not everyone, and I don't know him, but for some people, even at a very, very young age like that, everything can be on fire. And I can still want to punch a bitch in the face. But that 10, 15 seconds could be like a marker of like, well, okay. And it's something.

Jade of All Jades (84:14)

Yeah. You keep showing up. You. Not just your words, but your behavior. You're consistent in all things and you remain devoted to helping him figure out. Figure this out. Because this sort of. He's 14 now. It's going to get much worse for him if he don't get a handle on this. By adult. Yes, much.

Susie Carmichael (84:34)

Yes.

Jade of All Jades (84:35)

Much worse. If he's getting suspended from school regularly, then, baby, the. The. The jails and prisons are waiting. They're waiting for him to blow up on the wrong person. So again, yeah. Just consistency. And I wish y'all the best of luck, because that's hard.

Susie Carmichael (84:55)

Yeah.

Jade of All Jades (84:56)

And this is why I tell you niggas to raise your fucking. Be there for your fucking kids. Like, this is. This is why we talk so bad about bad parents. Because this is the effect y'all have on these kids. This is what.

Susie Carmichael (85:09)

You literally ruin lives.

Jade of All Jades (85:11)

You ruined lives.

Susie Carmichael (85:13)

Innocent lives from young. From. From. From a very young age. You tangle them up so bad that they don't know how to untangle themselves sometimes, ever. Ever. And then even sometimes when they do start the untangling process and they come to you as an adult age. Where I'm grown, you grown mentioned. There's no. There's nothing here that needs to. To be like, oh, well, we can't have this conversation because blah, blah, blah. We should be able to have a conversation anyway. But I'm a grown ass TD adult. You're a grown ass TD adult and you still can't take ownership or accountability for the fuck that you have done that has hurt me indescribably. I've still been able to make it out okay enough to, you know, put food in my belly and stuff and stand up straight or whatever, I guess if I can. But like you stealing your, it's just, it's unbelievable. Don't have them. Don't have them. Get a fish.

Jade of All Jades (86:13)

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Susie Carmichael (88:38)

We are back to the show and it's time for the read. And I will begin because, like I said, I really didn't have one. I've been sleeping like a freak. Like Nosferatu, perhaps. My sleep's been awful. So nostalgic. I'm sleeping like I used to when I recorded Furious Thoughts, which is terribly. That's not the read. The read is. What should we call it? I was watching Friday After Next Deliverous me if I was watching one of my old favorite black comedies. And I had this thought of, man, there are so many movies starring black people, directed, written by black people from the 90s and early 2000s and even some before that. But specifically the time that I grew up where it's like maybe 10, 15% of the actual script made it to the final cut because them niggas were improving so many takes and had hilarious stuff in the improv that they just kept it. If you want Friday After Next, for instance, the Christmassy one. I don't mean to trigger any. The club Shay, Shay.

Jade of All Jades (89:59)

So I don't want to hurt anyone.

Susie Carmichael (90:01)

That movie is brilliant. Is it like, brilliant in the sense that it's like, I don't think they wrote most of that. Most of the stuff in that movie is clearly those performers having a blast improving the fuck out of stuff. And then they cut whatever was funniest where people did. Couldn't break laughing so they could. You know what I mean? And there are so many television shows, films, I would even go as far as to say books where that is the case now in the era of, you know, DEI meaning N and nigger being every. The fault of everything. We're. We're in this place where the things that we create have to run through. I already knew they had to run through this filter of make white people feel included make white people feel like they understand. You can't have the blacketiest. Black, black, blackity, black, black, black ass. Series. But there better be a Caucasian recurring character or that light is not turning green, baby cakes. And those jokes, even if it's just niggas in the scene, everyone meaning specifically white people have to get it or we don't want it.

Jade of All Jades (91:25)

Yeah. Yep.

Susie Carmichael (91:27)

We don't want it.

Jade of All Jades (91:28)

Yep.

Susie Carmichael (91:30)

Motherfuckers talking about a black show. Come on. And a black person got just a regular old black Southern accent. And you have executives talking about they need subtitles to understand them to people on set. Meanwhile, here's Shogun. Okay, now, when I was at home for the holidays, I remember maybe I was watching one Piece and my mom. I don't know if I said this, my mom came into the room. She was like, what are you watching? I was like, anime. And she was like, oh, I heard Japanese. I thought you were watching this show. I like. I said, you heard Japanese and you thought I was watching a show? You like, what are you talking about? She was like, oh, I was watching. You know, I watched Shogun. I was like, your brother turned me on to the show. Shogun. I watched it. I love it. And I was like, wow, Mommy, you watched and liked Shogun? Yeah. It was so good. So interesting. And I had to read it, but it was so good. Flash forward, like, two weeks later, and Shirley Ralph is talking about how much she loves Shogun.

Jade of All Jades (92:31)

I was wondering if you saw that. That was such a great.

Susie Carmichael (92:35)

That lifted me to incredible and indescribable heights. I stand Shirley Ralph for the rest of my life. I will. You can't say nothing to me about that, lady. I'll fight you.

Jade of All Jades (92:43)

Yeah.

Susie Carmichael (92:43)

The point is, we used to have so much more freedom to just be ourselves, because black people aren't monolithic. You got people within the culture, even just black American people. Even if I keep it to just black American people or black people. People who live here.

Jade of All Jades (93:02)

Yes.

Susie Carmichael (93:03)

There are so many different accents. There's so many different perspectives, so many different personalities, so many different behaviors, religions. There's so many different ways that we are. And I miss the time where I could watch a feature and be busting up laughing. Not just because the writing is good or the writing is well done, but because we had this huge, extensive landscape of talent that were permitted to come in and just have a good time. Now everything has to be filtered for white people to get it and understand it that we barely even. It's like, girl, look, say the thing on the paper and just do the best that you can, because God only knows how much time we have. Whereas before, we had all of this. You know, BT made a lot of MTV versions of stuff, but they were still making original programming that was, was great. And not just running ATL and baby boy every fucking hour. You had upn, which the jokes will.

Jade of All Jades (94:05)

You know, never stop. Never.

Susie Carmichael (94:06)

But UPN had an incredible slate of black shows. So did WWE took it for granted.

Jade of All Jades (94:16)

Really did.

Susie Carmichael (94:17)

We really did. But I think because the playground was so much bigger, we had a lot of moments in pockets where directors and writers and actors were like, man, we know you funnier. You get it, go for it. And we got gold because of that. Now everything has to be fine tuned. And so some balding white man who never gave a fuck about us, never will in the first fucking place, literally can sort of kind of get it. And maybe if he's in a good mood, allow us to continue producing it. And I'm over it, I'm over it. We're the shit where the recipe. We were always ahead. And it doesn't mean, ooh, fuck you. Hahaha. I mean it does for some of us, many of us. But let us have our fun and do the thing. Let us be everything everywhere all at once. If you can allow me to pun here because some of us want to make power. Some of us want to make, you know, Domino Day, the Lone Witch. Some of us want a black Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Some of us want to see Natasha Rotha playing a super spy.

Jade of All Jades (95:24)

Yeah.

Susie Carmichael (95:25)

Or an alien looking for her husband in 1960s France.

Jade of All Jades (95:31)

I don't know anything random bullshit. Why not? We deserve, we deserve. Yeah, we do.

Susie Carmichael (95:40)

Fuck. Also, I read a story, like a headline. I forgot to go read all of it. That there is that Cynthia Erivo starring in. I'm going to say the name wrong. She's starring in a movie that's set in a, like a Japan style New York City. Like a futuristic Japanese style New York or something. And it's like samurai influence.

Jade of All Jades (96:06)

Karoshi.

Susie Carmichael (96:07)

Karoshi. Yeah, I saw that a couple of days ago and I was like, oh, so when was the conversation with Cheryl? Because Sheryl Lee Ralph will be in the film.

Jade of All Jades (96:18)

Oh yeah, got to. Y'all need to call her. Make sure you do. Hurry up actually.

Susie Carmichael (96:21)

Thank you, thank you so much.

Jade of All Jades (96:22)

You heard that Japanese on the red carpet. I was, I said no. I know I shouldn't be blown away by a talented legend, but God damn, Sheryl Lee Ralph. What can you not do fluent? Just she, which I, you know, the.

Susie Carmichael (96:36)

Way that she pronounced her own name.

Jade of All Jades (96:38)

Yeah, I, I got Watashi. I got Sheryl Lee Ralph. And I got Jamaica.

Susie Carmichael (96:46)

Someone in my comments was like, well, I'm a Japanese speaker, and I'm gagged because everything she said was correct.

Jade of All Jades (96:52)

She said, I'm obsessed with her. I'm obsessed with her.

Susie Carmichael (96:55)

It was like, hey, everyone, my name is Shirley. Ralph. I come from Jamaica. Something, something, something. Yes, it's very simple.

Jade of All Jades (97:05)

I should send that to my brother. He minored in Japanese. And I remember thinking, like, you the only nigga I know who speak Japanese. The only one. But now there's two. You and Sheryl Lee Ralph.

Susie Carmichael (97:18)

Fierce.

Jade of All Jades (97:19)

Yeah. Really?

Susie Carmichael (97:19)

Anyway, that's all.

Jade of All Jades (97:21)

Okay, well, I just have a few things to go through quickly this week. First of all, I've seen enough of Kanye West. We can go ahead and throw that nigga in the dirt.

Susie Carmichael (97:30)

Please.

Jade of All Jades (97:31)

This talking about. This talking about Beyonce and Jay Z's children. I've been done. I've been done. But these comments about the babies.

Susie Carmichael (97:40)

Didn't know. Haven't heard. Not interested.

Jade of All Jades (97:43)

You don't want to know the details. It's really terrible. It's really terrible. It's really bad.

Susie Carmichael (97:48)

Swastika. The incessant. Oh, let me put a swastika on everything.

Jade of All Jades (97:52)

Yeah. The trolling, the releasing a song with north and Diddy and then fighting with Kim about it. Talking about, this white woman is in charge of my black children. That's because you. Her. You in Simon. Y'all did IVF or whatever the fuck. You deliberately have four or five children with this white woman. So you can't be mad that she has control of your black children. You gave them to her.

Susie Carmichael (98:15)

Especially when you consistently. And I'm talking about all the time, publicly go out and show your ass. So it's going to be easier for people involved in the law to say, oh, yeah, you know what?

Jade of All Jades (98:30)

Actually, why would you. I. And I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck about the Kardashians at all. I'm always here for dragging every last one of them. But I, too, would not let you put out a song with my child and Diddy. I absolutely. The fuck are you. I know you out of your mind. This is a stupid question. You are not in your right mind. And we all know that about Kanye. We all know that about Kanye.

Susie Carmichael (98:53)

That's why we usually ignore him.

Jade of All Jades (98:55)

Seen enough? I've seen enough, and I'm tired. Like I said, dirt. Asap. Asap.

Susie Carmichael (99:05)

Leave us alone.

Jade of All Jades (99:08)

Eric Adams comparing himself to Mahmoud Khalil.

Susie Carmichael (99:15)

Sorry, go ahead.

Jade of All Jades (99:17)

Eric Adams did.

Susie Carmichael (99:19)

You should fight him, actually, like, because you would beat his Ass.

Jade of All Jades (99:25)

I do actually hate him. Like, a lot. Like a lot. So he was asked about, you know, the situation with Mr. Khalil. If you don't know, he was arrested by the feds. Donald Trump ordered this man's arrest and tried to deport him for speaking up about Palestine and calling Israel out on their shit.

Susie Carmichael (99:45)

That's it.

Jade of All Jades (99:46)

Remember that ceasefire from January? That's all gone. Israel just bombed. Killed 400 people the other day. So this man, who is an Algerian Palestinian, legal citizen or not legal citizen, legal resident of the United States, who is married to a US Citizen, has. Is still in jail right now because Donald Trump is mad that he protests at Columbia University and is shaking shit up at Columbia.

Susie Carmichael (100:11)

What are the charges?

Jade of All Jades (100:12)

Oh, I don't even. Bullshit.

Susie Carmichael (100:15)

I don't believe there are any.

Jade of All Jades (100:18)

I was gonna say, is there even arrested by federal inmates. What is the. What is the charge? Are you right? Khalil has yet to be accused of a crime. Oh, my God, you're right. Exactly. So. So again, this is violating. I don't know how I forgot that key piece of information. This is violating every last one of this man's civil liberties. He is legally in the country. He is married to a citizen. This is completely unacceptable. He has the right to speak freely about Palestine. He has the right to criticize the American government, the Israeli government. Absolutely. So the way in my head, I said, oh, he was. Obviously, he was jailed for criticizing Israel and speaking out for Palestine. It's like my brain forgot that that's not illegal.

Susie Carmichael (101:06)

That's not. You're allowed to do that because it's illegal.

Jade of All Jades (101:09)

Indictment, Donald Trump's America. It's illegal in Donald Trump's America to piss him off. So that man who has been targeted, jailed for no reason, you know, whose wife is eight, nine months pregnant at this point, like, that man is who Eric Adams, lying, scamming, could not ask, compare himself to.

Susie Carmichael (101:35)

What a maniac.

Jade of All Jades (101:37)

So they said, you have a number of people in Mr. Khalil's situation. You don't feel that as the mayor of New York, that you have any obligation to make sure the federal obligation. Federal government is living up to its obligation. You had a situation here with the DOJ that clearly fell off what you say is the requirement. Couldn't that be happening now in the Trump administration? Or is Mr. Trump somehow inherently morally superior to Mr. Biden? Excellent question. Eric Adams said, quote, well, you know, what I'm finding surprising is the level of support you're displaying, but I didn't see that support from Me, even after we saw the emails and text messages, that there's a potential that this is politically motivated. So if you're about justice, don't be inconsistent in your call for justice. Cover those text messages that show it was potentially politically motivated. That same enthusiasm I'm getting for you. We should be enthusiastic for everyone. And again, the federal government does immigrations and they're doing the investigations. And we need to make sure that is done in a fair way, that it's done.

Susie Carmichael (102:30)

Why are our politicians so stupid?

Jade of All Jades (102:33)

They're all a bunch of fucking narcissists. Narcissist nigga. What? The level of support that is being displayed for this man who is unfairly targeted by the federal government versus you. A lion.

Susie Carmichael (102:45)

They disappeared in it. He spoke out against stuff that was reasonable. Like there was a sense of morally reprehensible.

Jade of All Jades (102:54)

Morally reprehensible shit that Israel.

Susie Carmichael (102:56)

And then they went ahead and murdered hundreds more people, which they said they wouldn't do. This person spoke out against them and they locked him up. It took his family and attorney forever to even find out where he was.

Jade of All Jades (103:12)

Right. Took that nigga down to Gina. The fuck. And you're comparing yourself and still have.

Susie Carmichael (103:17)

Not said what crime he committed? This should be like this. Go ahead.

Jade of All Jades (103:25)

You are fully guilty.

Susie Carmichael (103:26)

This is so alarming and terrifying.

Jade of All Jades (103:27)

You are fully guilty, Eric Adams. To compare yourself to an innocent man who didn't do anything other than exercise his right to free speech is insane.

Susie Carmichael (103:36)

You're a terrible person. That motherfucker didn't do nothing, baby.

Jade of All Jades (103:42)

Eric Adams campaign only raised $19,000 over the past two months. So you are on your way out. I see why Big Kathy didn't pardon you because you're on your way out anyway. You're absolutely not getting reelected. But the ego that this fuck nigga has is. Is unparalleled. I really can't take it. Also, very quickly, Serena's Jackson. What a. If you didn't see that TikTok of his ex girlfriend going into Dominique. No, I'm talking about the ex girlfriend, not the baby mama. The girl he was with. All this past shit. She just put a TikTok out, you know, trigger warning if you go watch that. But. Oh, God, them Jackson boys. Yeah, yeah, it's a. It's a six minute long video of her talking about the. That she went through just in the past year and a half, two years with this man. It's really awful. I'm not gonna get into the details, but I did want to make sure I say him and then Dominique I saw somebody had screenshotted Dominique had reposted the video and said, I'm here for you. You also told me about a time that. That you had to feed our daughter because he didn't. And he was making, like, these terrible jokes about her being quote, unquote, retarded, knowing that she's autistic. And then she said, I'll stop here, as if to say she could keep going, nigga.

Susie Carmichael (105:09)

Wow.

Jade of All Jades (105:12)

So when I said, a lot of y'all simply don't need to have kids. And. And when y'all start bitching about how your baby mama won't let you have the baby and you gotta fight her for custody and visit visitation and all this other. A lot of y'all have no business being anywhere near these children if this is how you talk about them and this is how you treat their mothers and the other women in your life. You sounding like a. Just like your brother. And to end my read on a happy note, I watched Win or lose.

Susie Carmichael (105:44)

Yay.

Jade of All Jades (105:46)

What a show.

Susie Carmichael (105:49)

So good.

Jade of All Jades (105:50)

It is so good. My goodness. It was harder to watch than I thought it would be.

Susie Carmichael (105:55)

Right?

Jade of All Jades (105:56)

I'm like, this is a 20 minute episode and I'm feeling too many things. But very, very good. Very well done. I see what you mean about the episodes with Rochelle and her mama.

Susie Carmichael (106:06)

Yeah.

Jade of All Jades (106:07)

I found myself getting really frustrated with the adults in this series, which is great because it's real. They're all just being human, and none of them are actively trying to be like, we're not getting any serenenesses in this. We're not getting, you know, we're not getting the. The dad from the listener letter whose girlfriend said, yeah, you not wanted. These are parents who are just human, but they are trying to get it right.

Susie Carmichael (106:32)

They're imperfect.

Jade of All Jades (106:33)

They're imperfect. And you see, like, they're all going through some different form of stress, anxiety, depression, feeling stuck, feeling like you don't have friends. They. There's kind of like each character in each episode is going through something different. You see how they all interact and come together for this one moment and.

Susie Carmichael (106:54)

Almost like inside out, their feelings, emotions, triggers are stylized in very different ways. Great ways that I just thought that were really, really, really clever. But I love. I love the whole thing. I love Kai. I love Rochelle. Yes.

Jade of All Jades (107:12)

What a sweetheart.

Susie Carmichael (107:13)

And I love the episode with her mom right afterwards. Those are the two episodes I got to watch at Pixar, and I was like, super, super, super, super show.

Jade of All Jades (107:20)

So good.

Susie Carmichael (107:20)

Because I didn't know anything about the show. I didn't know what it was about.

Jade of All Jades (107:24)

Yeah.

Susie Carmichael (107:25)

So I didn't expect for it to have these different types of perspectives. But I like what you said about the parents being, like, frustrating. Especially when I first watched it. I'm like, why are they acting like. And then you would get other perspective, and it's like, that's what.

Jade of All Jades (107:39)

I like that. Because they're human.

Susie Carmichael (107:40)

That's where that comes from. They're human. Her being like, a single mom and trying to, like, balance all these things and be present and make sure the kids are safe and all this other stuff. But she's obviously incredibly insecure and not sure what she wants to do with her fucking life. And so she is, like, addicted to social media. And, like, the likes. The lights are kind of.

Jade of All Jades (108:03)

The engagement is her everything. It keeps her going. She wake up and go on Instagram. But it's a lot of y'all like that. It's a lot of people like that.

Susie Carmichael (108:11)

And the little heart bubbles, like, lift her up and make sure she gets her hair.

Jade of All Jades (108:15)

They get her through the day. They really do win or lose it.

Susie Carmichael (108:17)

Win or loses to you.

Jade of All Jades (108:19)

Their coping mechanisms manifest as different things. So, like, Rochelle's is, like, this big, powerful businesswoman who can go in and handle everything because she's a baby trying to pay bills, you know, it's heartbreaking.

Susie Carmichael (108:30)

She has to be an adult.

Jade of All Jades (108:31)

Yeah. Yeah. So good. Taylor's little brother Ira. That was the cutest. Oh, my gosh. God, I just felt so bad for that baby. But it was. Anyway, I cannot recommend. Can't recommend it more. Thank you for the recommendation. It was really good, really sweet, really cute. And I didn't realize this was the show that they had been criticized for, like, taking out the transgender storyline, because I felt like it was very obvious, you know, I guess what they took out was the explicit mention of Kai being transgender. But if you watch that episode, it's. I feel like it's very. You know, they don't. It's not like Kai assists. I feel like that's very obvious what's going on here. And they just. Yeah, you know, it's just part. The daddy is accepting, the grandma is accepting. They have to change schools. But, you know, Kai joins this co ed softball, like, and then over time, she's growing her hair out longer. She's wearing earrings and makeup. Like, she's just kind of blossoming into herself. And her dad doesn't always get it right with, like, the pressure of the sport, but he is always ultimately there for his child. Supportive. Supportive of her Gender identity and all that, so. And to see the grandma, to see an older black person be so open and accepting and loving like that, that really did my heart so, so good. So congratulations, Pixar. Disney plus. I. I know this is y. I think it was the first original series.

Susie Carmichael (109:59)

Yeah. Pixar.

Jade of All Jades (110:00)

Incredible. Very, very well done. And I hope you do it again. I really. It was great. The very first episode with the coach's daughter and her anxiety, I said, oh, this is about to beat my ass.

Susie Carmichael (110:12)

The little swag.

Jade of All Jades (110:14)

Laurie. Yes. Yeah. And it almost shrunk back down when her dad said, okay, cut the. Cut the game. Time out. What's going on? Because you don't have to do this. It's not an issue of whether you're good enough. It's just, you know, go out here, try your best, have fun, do whatever you need to do. And then Lori was like, I am gonna concoct a plan so incredible to get myself onto this space.

Susie Carmichael (110:42)

I love from that first episode, too, when the. When the sweat droplet of the Sweat guy, when she went home or whatever, and the doorbell rang and she went to the door, and it was him.

Jade of All Jades (110:57)

He was like, oh, hello.

Susie Carmichael (110:58)

The Sweat was like, oh, hey, I'm here. Where do I put my things? And the sweat goes, can you move?

Jade of All Jades (111:06)

She stood aside to let it in. Bitch.

Susie Carmichael (111:12)

That show was so fun. I really enjoyed it.

Jade of All Jades (111:16)

It's really good.

Susie Carmichael (111:17)

It made me cry a couple of times. Made me feel good things. And I hope it's a show that parents watch. Yeah. And watch with their kids.

Jade of All Jades (111:25)

Excellent, Excellent. Excellent, though. Highly recommend.

Susie Carmichael (111:28)

Yay. I'm glad you liked it.

Jade of All Jades (111:30)

I did.

Susie Carmichael (111:31)

I told her. I told Kristal on FaceTime. I was like, it would be fierce after, like, me suggesting this, like, four times. It would be fierce if you watched it and then call me back. And you were like, friend, this show sucks. Like, I hate it.

Jade of All Jades (111:43)

Because it would have been. That would have been so funny.

Susie Carmichael (111:47)

I mean, that was Sailor Moon, but this one was like, I know, y'all. Sailor Moon was a shot in the dark. Sailor Moon, you were like, so this young girl has unspeakable supernatural powers that she can use to save the world from evil, but Dick is an option.

Jade of All Jades (112:03)

And keeps choosing right.

Susie Carmichael (112:05)

And she also has a team of, like, four other bitches that want to save the world, and every time that they're about to do that, she chooses Dick. And so I don't really know why you want me to watch that.

Jade of All Jades (112:17)

And that is pretty much Sailor Moon.

Susie Carmichael (112:19)

It kind of is.

Jade of All Jades (112:21)

The other bitch is trying to save the world be scissoring in between escapades. But they put the pussy down and focus when it's time to. And for whatever reason, Sailor Moon cannot. As soon as she see that tuxedo mask, she loses her mind anyway. Yeah, I guess that will wrap up this week's episode of the show. Again, really loved. Win or lose. Go check it out on Disney Us. If you haven't already seen it, watch it. Find us on social media at this is the read. Our website is this is the read.com I want to say congratulations to Dustin Ross. Incredible first comedy show this past week at City Winery. Very, very proud of you, Dustin. You really did an amazing job. He's one of those naturals like Dustin is a born entertainer. So yes, congrats to him. Anything else from you before we head out?

Susie Carmichael (113:12)

Thank you all so much for listening. Thank you all so much for still being here after all of this time. Thank you for continuing to post quotes and your favorite moments from the episodes because I do look at that stuff and it makes me feel good. Please go to patreon.com Kid Fury if you'd like more me, I've got a fun movie screening watch along thing coming up in a couple of days. We've got a watch party coming at the end, end of the month that show me excited about and I'm going to be playing a game called Lost Records by the folks from Life is Strange. I believe in the next couple of days as well. I've been a bit under the weather so I haven't been able to make content as weekly as possible. But I'm on your ass in the coming days. So yeah. Thank you guys for listening. Congrats again to Dustin on his comedy show this week. I'm so incredibly proud of him. It's something we've been talking about I feel like for close to 10 years and it's like I said the time was now and I'm so proud of him. I know it's gonna be even bigger. And other friends of ours I've been speaking to who are working on their own new stuff, little top secret projects. It makes me cry because I love, I'm proud of you guys. So you folks too, even you niggas that I don't know, y'all get some.

Jade of All Jades (114:35)

Of this love as well.

Susie Carmichael (114:36)

Take an hour, take two hours this week to pour into your passion that thing that you love to do. Because time here is not profit processed.

Jade of All Jades (114:45)

Time here is not promised.

Susie Carmichael (114:49)

Time here is not promised. And you should spend as much of it as you can. Having a good time.

Jade of All Jades (114:55)

Amen.

Susie Carmichael (114:56)

I'm done.

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