Mugshot Lace

Summary

The Read | Episode: “Mugshot Lace”

Date: October 16, 2025
Hosts: Kid Fury & Crissle
Network: Loud Speakers/LoudSpeakers Network

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Episode Overview

Main theme:
In this week’s episode, Kid Fury and Crissle serve their signature blend of cultural commentary, shade, and Black excellence. From celebrity drama and legal woes to therapy, therapy, and more therapy, Kid Fury and Crissle go in on hip-hop/pop’s messiest news, inject real talk on relationships, and break down viral scandals with biting humor. Listeners also get heartfelt, real-world advice on love and self-worth, capped off with scathing, cathartic “reads.”

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Show Structure

• Black Excellence [02:30]
• Pop Culture/High Tops [05:24]
• Listener Letters [65:50]
• The Read [98:59]

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Black Excellence [02:30–05:22]

• Tributes to lost legends:
  • Kid Fury opens with a heartfelt shoutout to D’Angelo, mourning his recent passing:

    “Yeah, R&B soul. Great, amazing voice, amazing performer and iconic as a sex symbol. If you don’t know, you better ask somebody.” —Kid Fury [02:40]

  • Crissle highlights Ms. Major as a true trans icon, urging listeners to learn about her revolutionary work at Stonewall and beyond [03:27].
  • Sadness and frustration over greats being lost, and a playful side-eye to the "ones we wish death would come for" instead [03:27–04:17].
• Celebrating the Living:
  • Coco Gauff's tennis victory:

    “This is her 11th career single title… her Wuhan Open in China, she is the 2025 champion. I don’t know where you’re gonna put this trophy, girl… congratulations to you, tennis diva!” —Kid Fury [04:47]

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Pop Culture / High Tops

Drake vs. Kendrick UMG Lawsuit & Diss Track [05:47–13:57]

• Drake’s Lawsuit against Kendrick/UMG thrown out:
  • Judge ruled Kendrick's diss (“Not Like Us”) was non-actionable opinion and not defamation. Drake announces plans to appeal, which both hosts find pathetic.
    • “You literally begged for this shit. You begged for it, nigga. So sit there and take it. You lost in every conceivable way.” —Crissle [07:48]
    • “Euphoria and Programs would have been enough to have me on suicide watch…” —Crissle [10:56]
  • Both hosts roast Drake’s failure to let it go, urge him to “talk to your journal,” and highlight the brilliance of Kendrick's diss tracks.

Adonis' 8th Birthday [11:17–16:41]

• Drake’s son Adonis
  • Praise for Adonis’ “black haircut” and wholesome cowboy-themed birthday, but jokes about how even his birthday is tinged with Kendrick’s legacy:
    • “My first thought when I saw Adonis’ birthday party was when Kendrick called Adonis a…” —Crissle [16:20]
  • Jokes about Drake needing therapy to process Kendrick "eating him alive" [15:45–16:20].

DDG & Halle Bailey Drama [18:30–26:11]

• DDG’s new song “17 More Years” about co-parenting/losing Halle Bailey:
  • Crissle reads lyrics where DDG fails to show accountability for alleged abuse.
    • “I hope that Halle pays him a lump sum of Dusty.” —Kid Fury [20:21]
  • They drag DDG for centering himself and trying to sabotage Halle’s career.
    • “This song would have been better served if it were directed at you and NOT at Halle. …You need to be demanding stuff out of yourself.” —Kid Fury [23:23]
    • “If you had treated that girl right, I’m sure y’ all would still be together to this day.” —Crissle [25:29]

Nicki Minaj Financial Mess & Meltdown [29:45–44:47]

• Nicki Minaj at risk of losing her LA home to settle a lawsuit; public meltdown online:
  • Talk of her financial disarray, credit card fraud/theft, and erratic tweets blaming everyone.
    • “You just be in that house, out your fucking mind on whatever substances wild…” —Crissle [34:08]
    • “Cardi was correct. You don't know what's going on with that card… That man you're married to is ruining your fucking life.” —Crissle [34:34]
    • “It seems like you are disheveled and in disarray…” —Crissle [37:03]
  • Kid Fury & Crissle lament Nicki’s denial, urge her to “let go of that man and take care of your mental health,” and note the irony of her airing her own drama.
    • “You posted proof that Cardi was right…” —Crissle [42:06]

Wendy Osefo (Potomac Housewife) Mugshot & Fraud Charges [45:10–63:27]

• Scandal involving Wendy Osefo and husband Eddie—arrested for felony insurance fraud:
  • The Osefos reported luxury items stolen in a burglary that didn't happen; police allegedly found items on social media and in their home.
  • Jokes and commentary about how every Housewives franchise has at least one felon.
  • Explores the social/cultural pressures behind the fraud, but stresses the couple’s “accomplishment” makes the fall even sadder:
    • “I've always felt Wendy's had a sort of elitist tone to her approach...” —Kid Fury [45:31]
    • “...it would just be a damn shame if you threw away all of this for...what people might think of you.” —Crissle [54:48]
    • “It sounds like y’all are going to prison.” —Crissle [55:51]
• Cultural Note:
  • Nuanced breakdown of “keeping up appearances,” the immigrant success story pressures, and how the trap can be self-imposed.
    • “As accomplished and badass as you are… look at the lengths y’all went to.” —Crissle [62:27]

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Listener Letters [65:50–97:53]

Letter 1: “Being Happy and Single” [65:50–76:56]

• Ashley, dissatisfied with life, dates men despite glaring red flags, wants to know how to be happy single.
  • “How are you investing and fulfilling your relationship with yourself?” —Kid Fury [69:19]
  • “Trying to patch [your life] over with a nigga is never gonna work… Even if you meet a good nigga… he can't fix the dissatisfaction with your life. It can’t.” —Crissle [70:19]
  • Both advise pausing dating, focusing on self-compassion, and getting serious about hobbies, friendships, possibly therapy.

Letter 2: “Should I Stay With My Sick Partner?” [77:45–87:17]

• Adrian is unhappy in a 6-year relationship with a now chronically ill partner who refuses therapy or self-work.
  • “Outside of this unfortunate illness… I'm not going to continue to build a life with someone...when they're not interested in doing any work TO preserve it.” —Kid Fury [80:44]
  • “We can’t cure other people. We can’t fix them.” —Crissle [84:40]
  • Advice: Don’t sacrifice your mental health for guilt, only stay if there’s real effort and change.

Letter 3: “Negativity During PhD Applications” [87:17–97:53]

• Anissa has a friend who projects her own academic rejection onto her, undermining her confidence.
  • “She’s projecting her story onto mine and it pokes hard at my imposter syndrome.” —Letter [87:28]
  • “Sometimes people think they’re prepping us for disappointment when all they’re doing is taking the wind out of our sails… Let me be excited.” —Crissle [92:44]
  • Suggests honest but gentle communication (“Your feedback doesn’t feel loving—it feels like you don’t believe in me”), and boundary-setting.

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The Read [98:59–END]

Kid Fury’s Spooky Movie Read: “Rosemary’s Baby” [99:00–105:00]

• A tongue-in-cheek read dedicated to the film’s protagonist and absurd logic:
  • “I just gave birth to the devil. I can do whatever the fuck I want. Get out my way, bitch…” [102:35]
  • General theme: Using horror movie stupidity as a lens to vent about agency.

Crissle’s Read(s): Furry Fury, Mama Dee, and Stephen A. Smith [105:31–130:59]

• Lainey the puppy breaks her laptop—“You on my shit list! Start bringing in some money in this bitch!” [109:46]
• Mama Dee (Love & Hip Hop Atlanta) giving her 14-year-old son strippers at his birthday:
  • “Some people really do not deserve kids… You was. So you would rather… that’s what we're doing at this party…” [113:58]
  • Calls for accountability for damaged Black boys, denounces homophobia, and calls out hypocrisy in the culture [116:53–123:39].
• Stephen A. Smith “House Nigga” Moment:
  • After criticizing Jasmine Crockett and being dragged by plies:

    “Not everybody is trying to appease their corporate overlords like you… some of us have enough… without having to shut the fuck up.” —Crissle [129:44]

  • Encourages viewers to “watch your mouth” and stop disparaging bold Black women.

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Notable Quotes & Highlights

• “You begged for it, nigga. So sit there and take it. You lost in every conceivable way.” —Crissle, on Drake’s defeat [07:48]
• “This song would have been better served if it were directed at you and not directed at Halle…” —Kid Fury, to DDG [23:23]
• “Cardi was correct. You don’t know what’s going on with that card… That man you’re married to is ruining your fucking life.” —Crissle, on Nicki Minaj [34:08]
• “It sounds like y’all are going to prison.” —Crissle, on Wendy Osefo [55:51]
• “We can’t cure other people. We can’t fix them. We’re not their doctors.” —Crissle, on leaving a depressed partner [84:40]
• “Sometimes people think they’re prepping us for disappointment when all they’re doing is taking the wind out of our sails… Let me be excited.” —Crissle, on unsupportive friends [92:44]

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• [02:30] Black Excellence—D’Angelo, Ms. Major, Coco Gauff
• [05:24] High Tops Pop Culture Roundup
• [05:47] Drake v. Kendrick/UMG Lawsuit
• [11:17] Adonis’ Birthday
• [18:30] DDG/Halle Bailey Mess
• [29:45] Nicki Minaj Home/Fraud/Meltdown
• [45:10] Wendy Osefo Mugshot/Lawsuit
• [65:50] Listener Letters Begin
• [98:59] The Read (Rosemary’s Baby / Real World Draggings)
• [110:58] Puppy Ate My Laptop
• [112:09] Mama Dee Hires Strippers for Scrappy
• [124:43] Stephen A. Smith Dragged (by plies)

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Tone & Style

• Language: Real, unvarnished, with Black cultural inflections, humor, and expletives.
• Tone: Unapologetic, sarcastic, empathetic, with sharp wit and a flair for the messy, memeable, and emotional.

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Takeaways

• Let go of public feuds YOU initiated and learn to move on (Drake).
• Don’t air your own mess online—sometimes the call is coming from inside the house (Nicki Minaj).
• True self-worth can’t be patched by relationships—prioritize self-care.
• Set boundaries with unsupportive friends, even those with good intentions.
• Not every “successful” lifestyle is real—don’t let outside pressures drive you to ruin.
• And sometimes, if someone pushed a damn demon out their body, get out their way—a lesson for horror movie heroines and for life.

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No celebrity is safe… except Beyoncé and Blue Ivy.

Transcript

[Kid Fury]

Hey, y'.

[Crissle West]

All.

[Kid Fury]

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[Crissle West]

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[Kid Fury]

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[Crissle West]

And I am Ms. Major and this is the read. Thank you for coming back.

[Kid Fury]

It is indeed. Thank you for coming back. We've got the usual lined up for you, starting with some black excellence. And we are going to be giving black excellence over to first. I'll just mention the now unfortunately late d' Angelo who just passed away, I think I saw yesterday. Yeah, R B soul. Great, amazing voice, amazing performer and iconic as a sex symbol. If you don't know, you better ask somebody. So yeah, we're losing a lot of great artists right off the top of the year here too. Cause Diane Keaton just died too. And I'm like, oh, not my white auntie.

[Crissle West]

Yeah. And Ms. Majors was like a true Trans icon. Like a real revolutionary. Like, was there the night of Stonewall and everything. If you don't know her story, you should go look it up. But she just died two days ago, so it's just. It's been a rough week. It's like, damn, death. You really coming for everybody but them niggas in that one house that we pointed out. Like, I feel like we were so clear. And yet you keep coming for the girls nobody asked you to touch. So, yeah, it's been a. It's been a rough few days. The d' Angelo stuff, I mean, I just couldn't believe it. Like, I was just. I was floored. Like, I. I was like, nah, y' all are lying. Like, I'm wait. I'm gonna wait for, like, additional confirmation, etc. Like, I just really could not believe that. That just blew me. He was only 51.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah, crazy cancer sucks. But we honor and thank them for their contributions to blackness and excellence and advancement. And before I move on, I will also give mention to the unstoppable Coco Gauff, who just earned. This is her 11th career single title.

[Crissle West]

Oh, what?

[Kid Fury]

Her Wuhan Open in China, where she is the 2025 champion.

[Crissle West]

Okay, so. Amen.

[Kid Fury]

I don't know where you gonna put this trophy, girl. Do you. Are you just gonna get storage? Are you gonna get like a secret department in the house? Because, wow, what a winner. But congratulations to you. I hope that you had a good and safe black time in China. And. Yeah, congratulations, tennis diva.

[Crissle West]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

Okay, let's get into some pop culture in a second. We call high tops. I don't think I have a lot this week and I'm not complaining about it. It is a mess.

[Crissle West]

Well, okay, but you know that. That's fine. That's fine. What's on the docket?

[Kid Fury]

Well, Adonis daddy was grinning and bearing it at his eighth birthday, which looks cute and fun. This comes not long after reports that the court throughout that Universal Music Group lawsuit that Drake was. Was trying to power forward U.S. district Judge Jeanette Vargas said that Kendrick Lamar's diss track was a non actionable opinion that can't be considered defamatory and essentially, girl. Yeah, get over it. Yeah. So that's pretty much, I think where they left that.

[Crissle West]

Yeah, it was. Both of y' all was talking shit. You said some shit about that man as well. You made allegations. Anybody can tell this is his opinion. And so the average person would not interact with you.

[Kid Fury]

I don't know what you.

[Crissle West]

Get out of my face with me.

[Kid Fury]

Want us to do about it, which.

[Crissle West]

I think we all saw coming. It was just such a white man move to take this to the courts in the first place. It was just.

[Kid Fury]

I honestly thought it was gonna be like, they're gonna settle like univers. He's like, oh, I got some tea on them and I'm gonna make these bitches settle just cause of pettiness.

[Crissle West]

Mm mm.

[Kid Fury]

Girl, baby.

[Crissle West]

Universal said, I think the fuck not.

[Kid Fury]

Those white people say, look, mud blood, you don't come over here with none of that bullshit.

[Crissle West]

Not. You hit him where it hurts.

[Kid Fury]

I'm so sorry.

[Crissle West]

Jesus Christ.

[Kid Fury]

You know, that's all that. I mean, anyways.

[Crissle West]

Yeah, no, I know what you meant, but yeah, they said, no, we pay these attorneys a lot of money to. To work 247 and we're not backing down from this.

[Kid Fury]

So this is stupid.

[Crissle West]

This is. Yeah, and you begged for it. You were told time and time again to leave that man alone. And you were goading him. Where you at, Kendrick? You still ain't dropped Kendrick who you scared? You literally begged for this shit. You begged for it, nigga. So sit there and take it. You lost in every conceivable way.

[Kid Fury]

Judge Jeanette probably said, girl, get out my face. Not like us was track folk. Like, you kept playing the game, you did until we got to this particular song. So I just can't stress what you want me to do.

[Crissle West]

We all remember you being told to let it go, to leave it when J. Cole was like, you know what? Actually, my bad, Kendrick. I thought we were all having fun and playing little jokes and games and, you know, just being mirthful and full of glee, you know, I thought this was whimsical. Nevermind. That was your sign, right then, to leave it alone. You should have backed the fuck off. You literally invited the fight. You can't be mad. You got your ass beat.

[Kid Fury]

I don't even know how. Like, I don't know what the opposite of this would have been, what the opposite of this decision would have been. Like, yeah, sure, let's go forward. And because of what, like, I don't know what they would have picked out of this to been like, yeah, you have a point here. I thought it was gonna be some like, you know, some insidious record label, cigar smoking, dubious thing on the back ends that we don't know about. Like, perhaps one of them did say at the strip club to another suit. We're going to get that mud blood and we're going to send him to Azkaban. Yeah, just kidding. Can Say it. I can. It's in the book.

[Crissle West]

Yeah, well, maybe he thought, you know, they, you know, the whole UMG is using bots. Wasn't that part of the argument or something like that? Like, they were using bots to artificially inflate the song's popularity. And they were like, why did you think that when you could not step outside in no hood without hearing that song for like four and a half months solid, nigga, you could not go nowhere. And then it was all back up again. Like every. The kids.

[Kid Fury]

The kids, the library.

[Crissle West]

Oh, my God, Children love that shit. It was all over everything. Everybody. Everybody knew that fucking song Nuns was doing parodies. Libraries was doing parodies of that song. Nigga, it wasn't bots. It was legit.

[Kid Fury]

That popular falling out, the pediatrician's office, the optometrist. Like, it's just. It was a very popular song. Girl, what do you want?

[Crissle West]

It was. It was just that good. The beat was incredible. And he came for your ass. He outrapped you like he always does. I.

[Kid Fury]

And as we've said three dozen times, that was the victory lap.

[Crissle West]

He.

[Kid Fury]

That, like, that wasn't even the. That wasn't like the knife in the gut.

[Crissle West]

Oh, no, it wasn't.

[Kid Fury]

Euphoria. Have you heard the other pieces of music from. Right.

[Crissle West]

Euphoria and programs would have been enough to have me on suicide watch if.

[Kid Fury]

I was you, baby.

[Crissle West]

Euphoria was so cold blooded. Six sixteen in la. You. You know, I.

[Kid Fury]

The song where he dedicated every verse to members of your family to tell them how trash you are.

[Crissle West]

Come on. Come on. But yeah.

[Kid Fury]

So Adonis Cake looks yummy. He got a little black haircut now.

[Crissle West]

I saw him at his party. Yes. With his parents. I can't believe that child is already eight. That's so crazy to me. But I did see that Drake's lawyers put out a statement talking about, we are gonna appeal. Like, y' all just gonna keep taking that man's money.

[Kid Fury]

Oh, I thought that too.

[Crissle West]

Okay.

[Kid Fury]

Of course.

[Crissle West]

Why won't, like. Are you not embarrassed? Are you not like, as Drake you?

[Kid Fury]

Well, yeah, he is.

[Crissle West]

So then cut your. Just cut your losses, nigga.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah, that's what I would have suggested.

[Crissle West]

Now you lost.

[Kid Fury]

I feel like this was probably a really tone deaf response to his embarrassment.

[Crissle West]

Oh, gotcha.

[Kid Fury]

Got you.

[Crissle West]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

People like yourself. People like myself were saying, hey, this will make it worse.

[Crissle West]

Right?

[Kid Fury]

So now I'm like, leave it alone.

[Crissle West]

Like, you should have dropped that lawsuit a week after it came out that you filed it. And then we probably would have forgotten by now that you even filed it. Like, you.

[Kid Fury]

So many opportunities.

[Crissle West]

Yeah, leave it alone.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah, leave it alone.

[Crissle West]

You keep picking at the gap, it won't heal.

[Kid Fury]

Like you said, lawyers probably will just jump right out of bed immediately and be like, well, we're gonna appeal unless you say, no, thank you.

[Crissle West]

I feel like.

[Kid Fury]

I don't know, I feel like he.

[Crissle West]

Has to tell them that they he wants to appeal because appealing is more money. Like, yeah, you have to be directed to bill me again, do you not? I don't know if an attorney will jump in and let us know, but I don't think the attorneys can say they gonna appeal without him having given the go ahead for that.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah, let us know. Attorneys. I feel like that's probably correct, but I'm just like. I see it happen so often that attorneys just turn right back around and like, oh, we're gonna appeal that. I feel like maybe your legal team will go, let's appeal for this. And then you agree, I guess. But either way, to your point, it's still just like, why wouldn't Drake go, no, thanks, it's perfectly fine.

[Crissle West]

No, thanks. I've actually been publicly humiliated for the last year.

[Kid Fury]

And paying you for it because when.

[Crissle West]

The one year anniversary of Not Like Us came out, of course everybody was talking about it again and reposting all the reaction videos and this shit. Like, it will not go away. You have to let it go, nigga, you just lost.

[Kid Fury]

You didn't even get to walk away with this. Walk away with like a chicken bake from Costco. Not like a. Not like a gift card to Panera Bread like you just done.

[Crissle West]

Yeah, you really are.

[Kid Fury]

I would not appeal anything but my thoughts. Like, bitch.

[Crissle West]

Right, girl, it's time to talk to your journal about it because hello, Everybody at the Grammys singing that shit. Everybody at the Grammy singing a minor that.

[Kid Fury]

That Drake probably got journal with a lock and key. There's no reason for you to.

[Crissle West]

Not the safest place to put your thoughts.

[Kid Fury]

He got one of them old school journals.

[Crissle West]

Yep.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah, the little electronic ones where you have to say something for it to open, right? You like push a little button and you say like, nice for what? And it clicks out like, that's what you need because something.

[Crissle West]

Figure it out, baby. It's over. It really is.

[Kid Fury]

But look right here again to this homegrown Jamaican young man that you are the father of. That is your world. And really something positive in the world. Look at the center of your life. Eight years old, looking like steph Curry already throwing up signs like Hebram. I'm a little confused, but at least he has some sort of proximity to his digginess. And that's lovely. His mother looks like a mom. They're cutting this western cake. I'm not really sure where the western theme came from, but they're smiling.

[Crissle West]

It's a cowboy card at themed birthday party.

[Kid Fury]

Sure, sure. He loved the show.

[Crissle West]

Yeah, he had a great.

[Kid Fury]

And this is skewed, so I'm. I like this as a little button so far on everything that's going on. Him with his baby and mommy's there and then look happy. And this actually looks like. Well, I can't really tell how many people are there, but it looks like it was like a cute, maybe a little intimate thing. So be grown and successful and an icon and a dad and maybe ask yourself some tough questions or your therapist.

[Crissle West]

Right.

[Kid Fury]

I pray you about how this went. Because, baby, when I tell you that that man, that man named Duckworth ate you a lot, baby girl. He dug deep into the root. So you're gonna have to ask some questions. Probably about mommy, probably about Da. Definitely about daddy.

[Crissle West]

My. You know, my first thought when I saw Adonis birthday party was when Kendrick called Adonis a.

[Kid Fury]

I mean, well, look at him.

[Crissle West]

That's a black character.

[Kid Fury]

This nigga look like Tyreek Withers in Atlanta.

[Crissle West]

Wait, no, he. No, he really kind of do.

[Kid Fury]

I mean, I'm just.

[Crissle West]

Oh, God, let it go.

[Kid Fury]

Good for him. You can't tell Tyreek with his head. Matter of fact, I just watched the I Know what yout do last summer remake, I think in the past week. Had no idea he's in that, too. And he plays like. Did you ever see the original I Know what yout Did?

[Crissle West]

Of course.

[Kid Fury]

So he plays kind of like a. Kind of like Ryan Phillippe's. How Ryan Philippe was kind of like a jock asshole, little bit of mess. He was kind of like that. But his character's dad is the mayor. The dad's white. His mom's this black lady who they gave a terrible wig to.

[Crissle West]

Okay.

[Kid Fury]

So I was like, is it. Was it just giving casting? Cause he's mixed or whatever. That man is smoking a blunt. He's making shit like everybody else is smoking a joint. He dropped the blunt at some point, and he said, you owe me another blunt. Like, he's. He. I feel like he injected that in there. I don't feel like it was written, but that nigga knows who he is.

[Crissle West]

He said, no, give me a black parent. Don't play with me.

[Kid Fury]

Oh, Adonis. I'm telling you, Adonis is from Spanish town. Adonis might be from Kingston.

[Crissle West]

You know, that's. Yeah, I'm not even gonna try. Every time I try to do a Jamaican accent, you get that look on your face. So I'm gonna just leave it alone.

[Kid Fury]

You know how I feel about it.

[Crissle West]

But I felt motivated for a second. Tyreek.

[Kid Fury]

If I saw Daveed Diggs at Gelson's, I'd confront him. I'm joking. I'm joking.

[Crissle West]

That man would say, do you know how much money I got paid to do that Disney movie? Get up.

[Kid Fury]

Absolutely. Just. Just. Just thrust his shopping cart into my tourist bag.

[Crissle West]

Thanks for. Thanks for the feedback, nigga. Bye.

[Kid Fury]

Right. Speaking of fathers, DDG has a new song out called 17 More Years. Would you like to guess what it's about?

[Crissle West]

I think I know. I think I know.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah.

[Crissle West]

I think I need, you know, 17 more years of having to be involved with Halle Bailey because the two of you share DNA in the form of that Precious Baby Halo NBC.

[Kid Fury]

Tell her what she's won, like, 17 more years.

[Crissle West]

Oh, God, let me.

[Kid Fury]

It is the most downtrodden, off key ass song from this nigga who has been giving the ghost. When I tell you, Halle Elizabeth Marie Patrice Bailey has not said shit to this nigga. Like, he is dark, like, sad. Just out in the hills somewhere in his closet at home, just singing and opining about how she won't pick up the phone. You're such a great mother. How did we get to this place? I want to see my son grow. I feel like if you could just. If we could just talk, we could fix this. I still have love for you. I wish you didn't get to this place. I didn't get to a lyric where there was, like, accountability. And possibly the fact that she's not picking up the phone has something to do with the fact that you abused her. But it was very like, I miss my baby and you're so awesome, and Tea and I just want to be friends. Let's talk. And I finished that shit. I was like, I hope that Halle pays him a lump sum of Dusty.

[Crissle West]

I just googled the lyrics. First of all, if this is an album cover, single cover, I don't know, but it looks like halo. Maybe it's DDG's baby picture, but it's fucking adorable.

[Kid Fury]

Whoever it is, it's probably Halo, because the whole thing is, yeah, we got 17 more years.

[Crissle West]

Yeah, So I get that. But I do see a line here about, I'm happy for you and whoever that you with. Long as he can treat you better than I did. So maybe that.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah, I saw that part. So that's the best line.

[Crissle West]

Okay.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah, that was the best line.

[Crissle West]

This is basically. Girl, we should just let this go. I'm tired of paying for lawyers. We got 17 more years, so we might as well just be friends. And if we talk to.

[Kid Fury]

Why do I have to talk to the judge? Yeah.

[Crissle West]

Well, no, nigga, you know. And I'm not shocked.

[Kid Fury]

Of course he did.

[Crissle West]

Of course he did this. Cause Halle has an album coming out, and one thing he want to do is sabotage this girl's big moments.

[Kid Fury]

He's psycho. I literally. I watched this, and I was thinking my head and laughing like, what is this supposed to do for it?

[Crissle West]

Get.

[Kid Fury]

You know what it gave to me? Just a sniff.

[Crissle West]

Okay.

[Kid Fury]

Off set. And that cake and them public smyr balloons.

[Crissle West]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

Come on up on set, Ho. If I was even possibly partially maybe sort of in a position to hear what you had to say.

[Crissle West]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

This would not be the way to say it. Get out my face. Like, it's what.

[Crissle West]

Yeah. I pray Halle is in her group chat laughing with her friends over that shit.

[Kid Fury]

I do too.

[Crissle West]

Not taking this seriously.

[Kid Fury]

It sounds like that's what she's into now because amen. This gave. How do I get this lady's attention?

[Crissle West]

Right?

[Kid Fury]

And every other line was can iMessage WhatsApp? Yeah, Skype, Klarna.

[Crissle West]

Yeah. What can I do? I'm sending anything.

[Kid Fury]

Cash app, anything YouTube reels. How can we do this? Cause I've never heard. I haven't heard you or heard from you in the longest sweet babes.

[Crissle West]

I leaked a lie after you leaked those text messages from her and made fun of her for being postpartum. And I see you snuck in a line about her being a good mom after them insinuations of that like Halo wasn't safe with her and all that other. After you said all that about me regarding, like, me as a person and then me as a mother as well is up forever. Like, we don't have nothing else to talk about. Text that lawyer and tell that lawyer to email my lawyer, and that'll be how we communicate, Period. Period. I'll gladly pay them attorneys for the next 17 years if it mean I don't have to look at you in your dumb ass face no more.

[Kid Fury]

This would have been better ddg. And I mean this like this is the realest of my black heart that you or any nigga like you is gonna get Right. This song would have been better served if it were directed at you and not directed at Helly. Well, because she don't have nothing to do with making a difference here. You need to be asking yourself questions. You need to be demanding stuff out of yourself. You need to be doing the work so that the judge and the court and so on and so forth doesn't have to be involved. Halle's not the reason that that's the case. You are. You already admitted on one line like Krista said that, oh, I hope that whatever dude that you're with can be better to you than I did. So you know that you fucked up, right? Figure that out. Singing and opining to this lady about picking up the phone and possibly not having to go to court and coming over to the house to pick up the baby and all this stuff that ain't got shit to do with Sam. And like I said, I hope she ignores the fuck out your ass. Write a song to you. Cause you the problem, not her.

[Crissle West]

Get it? Get him again. And we. This.

[Kid Fury]

That could have almost been T. I.

[Crissle West]

Ain'T seen him grow up at all since I was first introduced to him through Halle. Like, I have not seen him mature publicly at all from you being jealous and throwing fits over her being in a movie and kissing another man. Like she's not fucking acting. Did you know the girl was an entertainer? Did you know this is. Do you know? It's just pretend. It's just pretend. They. There's cameras and a set and 900 people there. It's. It's all make believe. But that sort of childish behavior that he was exhibiting, then this is the same thing just in song. And. And I. You can't convince me that it's not. That it don't have everything to do with that girl having an album coming out.

[Kid Fury]

100%. It's just a different facet of the same rock. It's like. Girl, like, it's the same shit. You're completely correct.

[Crissle West]

Her alone. You. If you had treated that girl right, I'm sure y' all would still be together to this day.

[Kid Fury]

That's a fact.

[Crissle West]

So like you just said, he needs to. You really have got to sit down and examine yourself. Flaunting other hoes and all this other. All the shit you did. Nigga, ain't no way. No, we not finna just say fuck it. And you can come over and cut the birthday cake with us because we got 17 more years anyway. So I might as well let you around to drive me the fuck crazy.

[Kid Fury]

No, like, are you stupid? What the fuck are you talking about?

[Crissle West]

Why? That don't sound good, Nigga, delete this.

[Kid Fury]

Can you imagine? I just had the pettiest, pettiest vision of him sending her the video and talking to her. She finally responds after, like seven months. It just says delete.

[Crissle West]

As funny as that is, and I.

[Kid Fury]

Do love it, you know, I hope it doesn't happen, but it was a funny thing.

[Crissle West]

But if you respond to niggas, it don't matter what you say. The fact that you responded is all they need. Say it again, 1,000%, nigga, fuck you and your mama. I hope all of y' all burn alive. And a nigga would be like, so I have a chance.

[Kid Fury]

Because you could put an eye roll emoji. Tears of the kingdom, a whole journey. Like, it's like, oh, an adventure. Thank you.

[Crissle West]

Yeah, bitch. They're gonna say, so the door is open. So the door is open. Yeah, niggas take any communication as a sign that you.

[Kid Fury]

Now, if I just collect enough coroxy and I just go do this and that, then I can get this bitch back.

[Crissle West]

Child, I hope her and Chloe had a good, long, nasty cackle about it. They probably was drinking organic natural wine and shit, that orange wine shit, and just cracking up. I hope they did fuck him. Go run around with your hoes. Go, you know, stream on Twitch or whatever the fuck it is you do. And leave that lady alone. Hey, y'.

[Kid Fury]

All.

[Crissle West]

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[Kid Fury]

Is Nicki Minaj really having financial issues?

[Crissle West]

It seem like it, don't it?

[Kid Fury]

So I've seen rumors about this kind of stuff for a while, but I kind of pay it. Cause most of the time I just see it on Twitter and stuff and I'm like, y' all could just be saying whatever the fuck. Um. But Us Weekly posted some story of that guy that sued Nikki and her husband over an alleged assault a couple years ago. 2019. He was. We mentioned it. He was like, I think security or something at a show and had an incident where he said by the end of it, Canvas snuck off and punched him and he had to go get surgery for his jaw. All kinds of stuff. He awarded half a million dollars. A little over half a million dollars. Hasn't been paid yet.

[Crissle West]

Why the fuck not?

[Kid Fury]

I don't know. This is 2019. He don't do it either. He's pissed and over it. So he has now moved to, I guess have the courts force Nikki to sell her mansion in Los Angeles. I believe right now she's in New York at her home there. Uh. But yeah, they're just kind of. They then went into like all the legal and real estate jargon.

[Crissle West]

Mm.

[Kid Fury]

But it sounds like based upon the value of the home and what is owed to them, what they would get for selling the property is basically would give them the money for this man, Thomas Weidenmuller.

[Crissle West]

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Kid Fury]

To receive his payment or whatever. He says that it's been forever and ever ago, countless back and forth and liens and this and that and the third, and they still haven't gotten paid. So he want his money. Yeah, he wanted Nikki to stop sitting down and playing about it. And now I guess we'll see how this works. Cause I guess the court can. Can the court make you. So I guess I don't know how that works, but yeah, well, I would think it happens there.

[Crissle West]

Why. Why wasn't a check generated and mailed to that man? Or a wire transfer? Like, why wasn't this handled within a month of the judgment coming out? That's what I don't understand. But TikTok very quickly showed me Nikki's tweets afterwards where she was irate.

[Kid Fury]

Could you share some of them?

[Crissle West]

Oh, so she got on Twitter, pissed. So this might have been before the Us Weekly. I saw it on Us Weekly. You said. I mean, not Us Weekly, Page Six. Um, but. But they basically ran the same story about Nikki's house. And that's when I was like, okay, that might be legit. Cause normally names like Page Six and Us Weekly don't get involved in, like, Stan rumors. But first, she confirmed. She sort of confirmed that Cardi was right. When Cardi was like, you be in that house, coked up that man drugs you and leaves you unconscious in the basement and then go off and spend all your money. She confirmed that all that was true when she started post.

[Kid Fury]

I saw that on her ig.

[Crissle West]

Yes. On her Instagram story, she posted a bunch of transactions from her Amex from, like, over the past few months. $5,000 here, $4,000 there. 8,000, 7,000, et cetera, et cetera. Talking about three different people in a span of two months have been charging her MX without permission. And some of them couldn't explain how they got the new card number. And it's like, well.

[Kid Fury]

A couple of them been doing it for years. Filed the first report a couple weeks ago. They're all going to jail. A fourth person has been stealing from the Barbs. Oh, bitch. Sitting here smelling like Pink Friday, too. Fragrance. Nothing like a hot shower to put everything into perspective. Oh, my. I just want to like.

[Crissle West]

So Cardi was correct. You don't know what's going on with that card. You just be in that house, out your fucking mind on whatever substances wild and talking about. They can't explain how they got the new card number. Cardi told you how they got the new card number. That man you're married to is ruining your Fucking life. Now why she posted all of that on her Instagram story, I swear to God, I'll never understand. Why would you?

[Kid Fury]

One of the credit card thieves has also been tracking my moves with a tracking device that led right to my own. Right to his own cell phone number.

[Crissle West]

How did they get that close to you? Sweetie, just, just take the thought process one step further. It's that man. How did they even get that close to you?

[Kid Fury]

Take the thought process just step 1 inch further than this.

[Crissle West]

I want you to keep thinking for half a minute. Who else would have that sort of atmosphere? Okay, okay.

[Kid Fury]

Okay. Okay. Now what is that? Wait, wait, wait. Just think one.

[Crissle West]

Just one more step. It's right there. All you have to do is look at it.

[Kid Fury]

Oh my God.

[Crissle West]

I'm actually a little man. Yeah, no say like it's something I've been thinking. Been thinking something was wrong with her. But you basically posted proof that Cardi was right. That not only do that man be spending your money and doing what the fuck ever he want to with it, other n be spending he buying a hood chains. But then they turn around and they go tell your biggest fucking opp about it. Like you.

[Kid Fury]

I'm not even going front when, even when she said that, When Cardi said whatever. Like he be buying the hood chains or whatever and taking your Cardi to do whatever. Whatever. I'm like, okay, that sounds like Stan rumors too. It could be true. He cannot. I'm not gonna. Whatever, baby.

[Crissle West]

Real. It was correct. It was accurate and it was real.

[Kid Fury]

Cardi was like, what the fuck you think them hood niggas do? They go back to the hood and run their mouth. How you think I know this, right?

[Crissle West]

How else would I know it, girl?

[Kid Fury]

I'm worried because I'm like, what is the nature of her relationship with this nigga on a day to day basis?

[Crissle West]

I, I, I don't think anybody. Well, I don't know who all could answer the question, that question, but it's certainly not me. What I do know is that I.

[Kid Fury]

Hope she's at least safe after she did all this.

[Crissle West]

Nikki posted having your husband greater than having tea, which.

[Kid Fury]

Oh, wait, that.

[Crissle West]

So she, you know, the greater than sign.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah, no, but I don't understand what she means.

[Crissle West]

I think she means having a husband is better than having tea on somebody. But that really depends on the husband. Like your husband.

[Kid Fury]

It really, really does.

[Crissle West]

Your husband. I'm gonna say no because the tea is about your man. It's about your man.

[Kid Fury]

And so then I don't get it.

[Crissle West]

The next. The next tweet was, let this be a gem you cherish forever satisfying your husband. Multiple greater than signs stalking someone else's marriage. And then she put the. March 27, 2026, for the new album. And then she wrote knowing peace, greater than knowing tea. I don't think you have peace or tea. You. It seems like you are in. In. You are disheveled and in disarray. And so then she starts talking. She starts threatening something about y' all are. Every time Cock Nation's in the news for something they don't want you to know, a few things will happen. Will Smith will appear, A famous person dies, and then people will start to say nasty things about the Queen. And then Jay Z. Lace Z will pop up looking dumb. It's weird. Like, I don't. I think it's mental illness and drugs. Real bad. Cause then she started talking about God is in control. And your numbers have been called with these screenshots about. I don't know where the fuck she got this from, but, yeah, she thanked Trump. She said, flattering fuckers are allowed to be posted of me. Again, thanks, potus Epiphany had politicians thinking she would lead them to a victory. Had Live Nation thinking she knew her shit. Lol. How much money did VP Harris have stacked up for her campaign again? Yikes. Which I don't even understand.

[Kid Fury]

What the fuck is she talking about?

[Crissle West]

Oh, man. And then she got back on Jay Z and Desiree, and then she posted a picture of her and that man talking about, it's dangerous to mistake respect for fear. I don't. Okay. Yeah. And so then she talked about this whole $500,000 to this man and said, I have evidence that this was given to a business manager who never told me which. What are you talking about? Never told you what he gave. What are you saying? And then said that same business manager stole from her. And then he was accused of killing somebody and leaving them in a hotel room. And then she started reposting the Barbs because they were like, y' all are always coming for our Queen. This is just like when y' all tried to. To kill Jesus. And then Nikki said they don't want her to put out music because they know how great her next album is going to be. And so every time she wins. Yes. She's literally just saying any fucking thing. Told Us Weekly and Page Six that they fucked themselves. I don't know if she's going to sue behind that. I imagine Page Six and Us Weekly again, have legal teams. They don't just post any old fucking thing.

[Kid Fury]

Like, sue you for what?

[Crissle West]

For saying she.

[Kid Fury]

For reporting the news.

[Crissle West]

And then it's back to Jay Z and Desiree Perez talking about how they came and begged the Queen for a tour and an album and they needed help from her and the Barbs. And she called the barbs on the secret Barb phone, and the barb said, no, just like the what? She said she called the Barbs on the secret barb phone.

[Kid Fury]

She. Mr. Evil.

[Crissle West]

I was thinking of Charlie's Angels. You know how Charlie's Angels would talk to their phone? And then she said she's not putting the album out no more. And one more music. What?

[Kid Fury]

Okay, you know what actually is a little alarming.

[Crissle West]

That was all just this morning. That was all from, like 2:00am to 10:00am this morning. I. My nigga.

[Kid Fury]

It's alarming, though, that we haven't or I haven't seen or heard of her tweeting something like, x has been trying to get me off Twitter or has been trying to take my phone or my. My wop de wop for me, but I'm not going for it. Like, that would. It would track. But it would also say someone is going, hey, girl, enough of that. Like, we concerned, and this isn't it. Yeah, like when Kanye was like, john Legend's texting me, asking me what's going on and if I could get off and fuck that nigga. It was like, well, he tried.

[Crissle West]

And everybody was like, okay. So it's. It's one real. In Kanye's life. It's one real trying to get you off this Internet. Yeah, no, I haven't either. And it may be that there is nobody that close to her. It may be that she's just not telling us about it, but people are begging her to leave it alone. But either way, she sounds more and more unhinged every time she logs on. It's really not looking good for that girl. Like, I. And until you let go of that man and go take care of your mental health, it will get worse.

[Kid Fury]

I truly believe that.

[Crissle West]

Yeah. Yeah. It's no reason for me not to believe everything Cardi said at this point. I have no reason to doubt anything Cardi said about you at this point. Cause she clocked her shit so hard, you then posted about it and told everybody else, which, again, I don't know why you gave the carbs that ammunition. I don't know why you gave Cardi that validation publicly.

[Kid Fury]

Walters.

[Crissle West]

Cardi Jennings in this bitch.

[Kid Fury]

Cardin Cardi Winfrey.

[Crissle West]

Oh, God. Yeah. It's really something wrong with that lady. It's really. Yeah. And the barbs, are they sticking behind her? But yeah, as of right now, no more album coming in March, which I don't think there ever was an album. You just said that because that girl was getting attention. And you.

[Kid Fury]

I do believe you said that because that girl was getting attention. And I think you even believed you could do it and you could. March is the right way, but I just don't think that you genuinely wanted to. I don't think that you wanted to. I think you were just being petty.

[Crissle West]

I don't think you're mentally in a space right now to make an album. Not a good one.

[Kid Fury]

Right. It's hard for me to even get excited about it because I'm like, what is it gonna sound like every day? You're talking about, you know, Desiree Perez, people within the industry that you hate, but you're saying it like a. A Tolkien book. Like, you're saying it like you're. You're narrating this shit like Gandalf the Gray. Like. Like it doesn't. Why are you talking about the fucking. The eye of Sauron and how when you know Papa Bear is a prophet and he speaks to God and that's how you know that you are so.

[Crissle West]

Anointed and we supposed to believe you.

[Kid Fury]

Connect to your right mind. It's just. Okay.

[Crissle West]

All right.

[Kid Fury]

I want you to be. Especially because considering the fact that this non dressing random. Who the fuck shot John Ass nigga from New York that can't dress. And I still have not given. I still have not been given an understanding of what it is that he does for money. You remember?

[Crissle West]

I googled it. It took.

[Kid Fury]

This is the one.

[Crissle West]

There isn't. He takes that Amex and they got.

[Kid Fury]

Nicky at the center.

[Crissle West]

Yeah, it's him.

[Kid Fury]

I hate that for you Two of them.

[Crissle West]

A couple of them couldn't even explain how they got the new card number. I can't. I can tell you how they got it. I can tell you how they got it.

[Kid Fury]

Matter of fact, I won't even tell you. Here's a tweet like Kenneth has it.

[Crissle West]

If you script it, then I know how they have it. Papa Bear is not giving it out. I almost said something so terrible. God forgive me. God forgive me. Cause I don't even like making jokes like that. God forgive me.

[Kid Fury]

Last but not least, Wendy and Eddie Osefo.

[Crissle West]

I thought you was gonna say Wendy Williams. That's right. This housewives mess.

[Kid Fury]

I just. Okay, so Wendy Oseffo is a member of the Rojaswives Potomac cast. She's a doctor. Her husband Eddie is a lawyer. They're considered two of the more accomplished cast members of the group. And I've always felt Wendy's had a sort of elitist tone to her approach on the show.

[Crissle West]

Yep.

[Kid Fury]

And for that very reason. And as the franchise has gone on, I took a break from Housewives and shit. But I literally, I. Last week, or whatever, tv was on Bravo, and I saw that their new season was coming up that night. When I turned it on, it was on, like, the finale of the last season where someone was having, like, a. Almost having a charity thing for dogs or like an adopting thing for dogs. Oh, it was very, very cute. It was also hilarious because during the middle one of the speech. Speeches, one of the puppies just started shitting. Just started.

[Crissle West]

That's what they do. That is what.

[Kid Fury]

That's what they do. They're puppies.

[Crissle West]

That's so disrespectful. Oh, more on that later.

[Kid Fury]

They just started shading. The people in that establishment reacted like it was World War Z. Like, it.

[Crissle West]

Oh, God.

[Kid Fury]

I'm talking about people in gowns running around. Karen is bent over the trash can in the kitchen throwing at what? Like, they were not prepared to see dog shit, I guess at the dog function. It was the funniest thing I've ever seen. Anyway.

[Crissle West]

It takes from that 30 seconds to clean up and disinfect from a dog shit. Like, it's not that big of a deal. Why are y' all tripping?

[Kid Fury]

They were running like the end of Avengers Infinity.

[Crissle West]

Like, the shit was gonna grow legs and chase em. Like, yes, somebody will pick it up in a sanitary way and then bleach that shit and then wipe it up. And it's fine. Everybody calm. Calm down. Oh, my God.

[Kid Fury]

So funny.

[Crissle West]

You bitches have got to simmer down.

[Kid Fury]

It was.

[Crissle West]

So what did you think was gonna happen in an event with live puppies?

[Kid Fury]

Right? Well, dog was just like, I don't know what you.

[Crissle West]

Hello, pup. They were probably 12 weeks or so. Like, they sound little, but regardless. Okay, so y' all overreacted, but all right.

[Kid Fury]

They did.

[Crissle West]

They did okay.

[Kid Fury]

From there to the little, I think, three part reunion in the premiere. I, who I hadn't been watching for a while, was like, oh, Wendy kind of get on my nerves. She's kind of. She's glossed up in her, like, Housewives ism, Hair, makeup, dress, gown, jewelry. But, like, I don't like her little attitude now in the way that is some girl. A day and a half later, lace lifted in a mug shot. So I said, damn. Wendy and her husband have both been arrested on felony insurance fraud charges. The girlies say that she and her husband reported several of their items stolen during a burglary that allegedly never took place. And in fact that the police were able to. They were able to locate the supposedly stolen goods right on the Osevo's actual living person. They said that one of the rings that Wendy claimed was stolen they spotted right on her damn finger on her social media. They went down to the home, investigated the home and found several pieces of jewelry, expensive handbags that they also claimed had been stolen. Oh, and they locked those good girlies right on up. They gave them a $50,000 bond. Since then they've been released. We will see what they do with the girlies. Since it is also said that Eddie will likely lose his his license to practice law. And said that Wende is also no longer a professor at Wesleyan University despite having been in the classroom just one day before getting arrested. Damn. So I guess they'll be getting a new teacher soon or that class might just get thrown out. And yeah, I think that's about what I've got on updates since now. When I first saw this, I gagged. I really was like, how are the girls still frauding out on Bravo? How y' all keep getting fucking going to jail.

[Crissle West]

It's every franchise. They have at least one girl doing something extremely shady and illegal and going to jail on yours, bitch.

[Kid Fury]

Karen just got out for a dui.

[Crissle West]

At least that was dui. I mean, it's trifling.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah, it was, it was still bad.

[Crissle West]

Yeah, but it's not theft.

[Kid Fury]

How are you like not woo. Let me just stay a good distance from crime.

[Crissle West]

Yeah, yeah. Especially with all the bragging that Wendy did about, you know, them degrees child. She would not let you forget how many degrees she had.

[Kid Fury]

That's What I'm saying, Dr. Wendy.

[Crissle West]

And do not leave the doctor off. And you know, I've seen a lot of tiktoks of people kind of exploring this with a lot of nuance. Like some people were saying, you know, as a child of immigrants, there's a lot of pressure to be like the best so your parents can brag on you and also to take care of your parents financially to send money back home. All this. And so it got to a point where Wendy couldn't keep up with the appearances in Potomac or Potomac adjacent because I guess she don't even live in Potomac. But she couldn't keep up with, you know, what she felt like was pressure from being on the show and the pressure from her family and all this. So they got to this point. I also saw some people, mainly attorneys, saying it's very common for super rich people or people who have super expensive jewelry pieces to get like duplicates, like fakes made of certain stuff that you wear out in public. But the real thing you say for like, you know, when you go to classy shit. But so I was like, okay, so it's possible that what she's wearing is like a duplicate of her ring and her ring really was stolen. What got me was when the police was like, yeah, we went out to investigate and there were absolutely no signs of a break in. That's our problem. They have cameras. Ain't nobody on the cameras. There's nothing on the cameras. There's no room in the house that's touched. Except the bedroom. The bedroom is completely ransacked, but there's no forced entry. It's like. And y' all are way up in the middle of fucking nowhere. Like, who drove all the way out there and didn't show up on security cameras, didn't force their way in, but stole all of this stuff out of your home? Like, how can that be? That's what got the police suspicious. And then I guess they also said.

[Kid Fury]

That Eddie had emailed or they were emailing back and forth with Wendy.

[Crissle West]

No, the email is probably the worst part. The email where he was like, what else can we add to the list to get the number up? Like, oh, God damn, Christ. What kind of lawyer does I.

[Kid Fury]

That I don't know.

[Crissle West]

You. You deserve to. You deserve to be disbarred. You deserve to lose your license. If for no other reason than that is the single dumbest fucking move a lawyer could possibly make. Aren't you married to this woman? Why wouldn't you whisper it to her when y' all were in bed together at night? Why would you?

[Kid Fury]

I heard so many.

[Crissle West]

It's not making sense.

[Kid Fury]

So many Western.

[Crissle West]

Yeah, so, I mean, I also don't. I don't keep up with Potomac. Them light skinned green eyed bitches got on my nerves a long time ago. So I don't.

[Kid Fury]

I more brown girls down and.

[Crissle West]

Which is great, but it sound like.

[Kid Fury]

It'S the same shit.

[Crissle West]

Yeah, it sounds like. What I've heard from people who are heavy into the show is that Wendy had a big shift from her first season to her second season and she went and got her body done and she started dressing more like. It just, you know, like brand new closet, everything designer, nothing but wigs and, you know, cutesy little Gucci pieces and the cutest little heels and, you know, just dressing like a socialite and all this. But I don't know if that, excuse me, is really aligned with, you know, her true character, who she really is, or if she felt like, oh, I'm a housewife now, I want to look at the part and do all this other stuff. I don't really know what.

[Kid Fury]

That's my guess, right?

[Crissle West]

I mean, maybe it would just be a damn shame if you threw away all of this for. For what? For what other people might think of you.

[Kid Fury]

Hard work and accomplishment, Right?

[Crissle West]

Like you, you. You were constantly bragging you and your husband, between the two of you have like seven degrees or whatever. I. Why wasn't that enough? Me and my two degrees is enough. Even without my degrees, me and my accomplishments are enough. I don't need to prove shit to nobody else. I don't need to impress not nan one of you bitches. I'm me. It ain't nothing else to say. Like the. The resume speaks for itself. What are you talking about? I really don't. But, you know, that's a. That's an expensive, painful, embarrassing lesson to learn this publicly. Especially because, girl, this much money, this many felonies, it sound like y' all going to prison. And at that.

[Kid Fury]

No, it sounds like y' all are going.

[Crissle West]

It really. It really does sound like prison time awaits you and your husband. What? Your children. I can't fathom what those kids.

[Kid Fury]

First thing I thought of will be.

[Crissle West]

Experiencing being humiliated like this because of their parents decisions. It's just a lot. But I don't know, it's a lot to consider. Again, I barely even am aware of this girl, but this has been everywhere. Cause everybody, like you said, is gagged. Everybody cannot believe that Wendy is the one who got caught up in this type of shit.

[Kid Fury]

I would tell, like, it was like whiplash crystal. Cause like, the last time I remember watching Potomac was around the time that they really pissed me off, like you said. And I was like, I can't deal with this shit no more. And I just thought watching Housewife, that was forever ago. And when I watched it a week ago, I was like, wendy still looks great and stuff, but she just has it. She looks glitzier, more housewifey, expensive, unnecessary couture bullshit.

[Crissle West]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

But also, like, she also has this, like, this new, like, catty energy. There's this one part that actually grossed me out during the reunion where Eddie, I guess, got a FaceTime from one of the other New Housewives boyfriends or ex boyfriend. And I guess the ex boyfriend said some, like, fucked up shit about her. But before that, he FaceTimes Wendy while they're on break. And Wendy's on her phone and she goes like, oh, my God. And, like, makes a scene, and everyone turns to her and they're like, what? And she's just looking at her phone and she makes a scene. This dubious face like. Like, ooh, I just got some tea on this bitch and her man. And then immediately spreads it as soon as they get back is like, well, Eddie had something interesting to tell me about tj and he said that you paid him to be. And I was like, he's a catty bitch.

[Crissle West]

Got you. I did remember. I do remember hearing about that. Okay.

[Kid Fury]

She just had this, like, dope, this face of, like, delight that she got, like, some scandalous tea on someone. And I was just like, I don't know who this wend.

[Crissle West]

Are you back in high school, girl. That's very right. Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

Then two days later, I see this shit.

[Crissle West]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

And I'm like, gagged. And at the same time, I was like, oh. It was like, this is why. New wig, new dress, new purse, new whatever. But I can't believe it.

[Crissle West]

Yeah. Yeah. And of course, they start showing all the clips of her being like, we want marble from here to the ceiling. And I'mma completely redo this island and this and this. It's like, what? Okay. Spending all that money for what? But then she said, happy Eddie, which I guess is his weed line, his strain of weed or whatever. He has a. He has a strain of marijuana called Happy Eddie that's apparently allegedly it was doing Well, I don't know if it still is or whatever else I'm go there.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah.

[Crissle West]

There. She was just that. She was just at Culture Con.

[Kid Fury]

Weeds Train.

[Crissle West]

She was just at Culture. Culture Con.

[Kid Fury]

Culture Con's fun.

[Crissle West]

Like, a day before this happened. Got arrested in that same Culture Con wig. Same. Same little style with the hairstyle.

[Kid Fury]

It must have been a long day then. I guess she was there all day. Cause Mamie said that wig was in this mug shot, saying, this ain't got.

[Crissle West]

Nothing to do with me. Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

That I just met this bitch.

[Crissle West]

I felt like they arrested her as soon as she got back to Maryland. She was like, nah, I was gonna take this wig off.

[Kid Fury]

No, for real. Y door. I guess we'll see what comes from this. Like I said, I was a bit gagged.

[Crissle West]

We'll see.

[Kid Fury]

Disappointed. Because attitude vibe or not, Wendy and her husband are really accomplished, gorgeous black people. They are this. And for this to be a case when it seems like it's so completely unnecessary is a bummer. I get what you're saying about some people saying, oh, well, culturally, da, da, da, da. My family is Jamaican. I'm first generation. I can identify with all that same goddamn thing. I'm not about to go and act like somebody stole some shit so that I can go on revolt and be with you.

[Crissle West]

Right, Right.

[Kid Fury]

Like, it's just. That's just not how I work. So my only other thing is, if they do end up having to do time or something like that, I'm hoping that maybe it'll be like a Teresa Giudice and her husband. Remember when they both got in trouble.

[Crissle West]

When they had to split? Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

And the other one did time so. To stay with the kids.

[Crissle West]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

My thought, like, okay, both y' all get in trouble for this. You have three beautiful. I think it's three kids. However many. You have these gorgeous children that are still relatively young. They're teens practically to me. So, like.

[Crissle West]

And now they have to go to school and deal with kids talking about them and they parent like, everybody knows you're a tea girl. Everybody. That shit was on the real news. It was. I said, oh, I can't imagine.

[Kid Fury]

Right. This was on the real news.

[Crissle West]

Right. Not even just on the Bravo news. That made the real news, girl.

[Kid Fury]

That wasn't just on tmz. That was on the beach. Fuck.

[Crissle West]

A lot of us have, you know, pressure from our families to be super successful. A lot of people have pressure to support their families financially. But we cannot go there this far, sister. We. Yeah, yeah.

[Kid Fury]

If you're on a show that's about you and your life, too, as accomplished and badass as you are, talk about that shit. Especially if you sitting next to Giselle Bryant. Tacky ass. The fuck you need to move Glaregal for, bitch? Look, look. I've been feeling a lot of pressure from my family. I just don't understand why I wear why. Enough can't just be enough. And then all the, you know, oh, my God, Wendy Sane, leave that alone. And whatever bag she got or whatever wig she got, she worked her.

[Crissle West]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

Instead you had to be parasailing.

[Crissle West]

Right. Instead it was, oh, no, we can handle absolutely everything. We're so rich. Things are so great over here. I have the nicest of everything. I have the newest of everything. I have this and my body and my clothes and my man and my house and my kids and my girl and it is just smoke and mirrors. None of that shit was real. Or, I mean, a lot of it was real, but. But look at the links y' all went to.

[Kid Fury]

It's so unfortunate, right?

[Crissle West]

The jewelry was one thing. Cause apparently right when I was like, okay, yeah, it could be dupes of the jewelry, but the email and the horribly staged burglary, like you couldn't just pay some people to actually break into your house and make it look like something. How did they get in and make it straight to your bedroom and then ransack the bedroom alone and then leave everything else untouched and then magically get back out and not be on the cameras or break a door or a window or anything? Wendy, how? How? All right.

[Kid Fury]

They pulled her off wife swap too.

[Crissle West]

Yeah, I saw that damn wife. The feds petitioned that petitioned wife swap for that footage.

[Kid Fury]

We'll see how this goes. That's going to be it for the hot tops this week. Let's take a break.

[Crissle West]

Hey y', all, everybody knows how expensive things are right now. Groceries, gas, taking your family out, everything, baby. It is a real struggle. Donald Trump and the Republicans in Congress promised they'd make life cheaper, but instead they passed and signed a law that will make things even more expensive. And we're seeing all that right now. Tariffs are hurting the economy and driving up prices. And now Republicans passed a partisan bill to cut your Medicaid by billions, taking away health care from millions of regular everyday Americans just so they can give even more tax breaks to the ultra rich who absolutely don't need them. While people are struggling to get by, these career politicians are putting the elite first. Putting profits over family's health, our well being and our ability to afford everyday life that is just wrong and stank and terrible and immoral. We need our leaders to protect Medicaid, lower costs and to invest in our communities, not help the rich get richer at our expense. It's time we demand solutions that make life more affordable. Call your member of Congress and tell them to restore Medicaid paid for by House Majority Forward.

[Kid Fury]

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[Crissle West]

Yes, it is. Send your Questions to AskTheRead Gmail.com we may read them aloud on the show. Our first letter this week comes from Ashley, who says, hey, y', all, my love life is an absolute tragedy right now.

[Kid Fury]

Take a number.

[Crissle West]

Last year, I dated a guy named Paul for six months and I thought things were going well. We exchanged I love yous and I thought we might even get married one day. Throughout our relationship, we never had penis and vagina sex because he could never keep an erection for very long, which he said was because of a combination of a porn addiction and antidepressants. He wanted to try to have sex with me. Okay, let me just. I'm sorry. Let me get through it.

[Kid Fury]

Let me get through this, okay?

[Crissle West]

He wanted to try to have sex with me, a woman with a vagina, even though he's bisexual and has only had sex before with men. So he had his doctor prescribe him Viagra one evening when we were trying to have sex. He took the Viagra and was supposed to wait something like an hour before it kicked in fully. But for some reason, he decided to try to have a go at it. Earlier than that, when he couldn't maintain his erection, he collapsed on top of me, his naked body on mine, crying hysterically and having a total breakdown. At that point, I was trying to comfort him and pat him on the back while he cried. And finally he calmed down enough to tell me that he felt like he was pretending. I, of course, asked, why do you feel that way? And he said, I don't think I'm in love with you. It turns out that he said, I love you back a week or two after I said it because he felt guilty. Of course. We broke up, and months later, I decided to try to date again and reactivated my dating app profile. A guy that I went on a few dates with before Paul sent me a message to catch up. The first time we tried to date, I let our connection fizzle out for a few reasons, one of which was the state of his apartment. He has two cats, and not only was cat hair in clumps everywhere, but half of his tub was orange with dark mold spots. That apartment was so nasty that this should be where the story ends. But I was so desperate for male attention that when he connected with me again, I decided to meet up with him eventually. I was horny and I flat out told him so. So we decided to go back to his place. It was cleaner than the last time, but there was still cat hair everywhere and the tub was still a little orange. I'm ashamed to admit it, but I did have sex with Pigpen that that night.

[Kid Fury]

Pig pen.

[Crissle West]

Things eventually ended with pig Pen. But clearly I have an issue with recognizing red flags in others and acting upon them. I'm very dissatisfied with my life, and I look to romantic connections to fill that void, which clearly hasn't worked for me. Me as two single people. Damn. What advice. I mean, I mean, okay, fine. As two single people, what advice do you have for people like me who are struggling to be happy and single? Thanks, Ashley. I was about to say how, you know, I'm single, but.

[Kid Fury]

Right.

[Crissle West]

I am. So it's fine.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah.

[Crissle West]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

How to be happy and single.

[Crissle West]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

I have to think about this because it's so easy for me. I just. I don't think that I ever have thought about it. Yeah, it, I, I, I feel like I be more. The question for me is how do you be in a relationship and have.

[Crissle West]

That's valid.

[Kid Fury]

I could be happy and sanctioned. What are you doing with your time? What are you.

[Crissle West]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

How are you investing and fulfilling your relationship with yourself?

[Crissle West]

Yeah, I think that's the number one question because you, you, you really read yourself here. Towards the end of the letter, you said, you know, I have an issue with. I can see red flags, but I just go ahead anyway. And I'm dissatisfied with my life. Right, right. But being dissatisfied with your life and choosing dating to help fill that is not going to then make you satisfied with your life. A nigga can't fix what's wrong. Especially these niggas, like the, the first one, the bisexual who couldn't keep it up. And then he was like, yeah, I'm not actually in love with you. That's just kind of tragic. The dirty nigga that you knew was dirty and you fucked him anyway in his dirty house. That, that to me is more of like a warning sign. Like, girl, you, you getting to the point where you're devaluing yourself in the pursuit.

[Kid Fury]

It's a little smell and taste.

[Crissle West]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a little, you know that pussy was sour and I said, I'm gonna eat it anyway. Like, I, I want you to. I think the question that you asked, like, what are you doing with yourself? You. When you say you're dissatisfied with your life, you didn't give us any examples of what's going wrong. But I think you need to turn your attention there. Is it work now? That's very understandable. The job market right now is hell. Unemployment is something like 26% and it's bad. So I get it. The cost of everything is through the fucking roof. These people voted for Trump because they thought it was gonna make their groceries cheaper and groceries was 20 higher. Like things are. So I, I get it if you feel like you're kind of in a dead end job and you don't really have somewhere else to go with that. But whatever, wherever it is that you feel that you're lacking, trying to patch that over with is never gonna work. Even if you meet a, a good nigga, even if you meet somebody who is fully attracted to you and has a clean home and can keep his dick up and you know, is a nice person, he can't fix the dissatisfaction with your life. It can't. It. You have to, you have to really focus on you. You have to. To be happy and single is to be happy like you. It sounds like you unhappy, period. Yeah, relationships don't fix that. What's going on with you, baby? Like, do, do we need to talk to a therapist? Is there some deep seated stuff going on here? Sometimes we have coping mechanisms and patterns from childhood that protected us then, that are now working against us. And then we need to find a way to break out of those. Is it something like that going on where you kind of sabotage yourself? Or maybe you do have a low sense of self worth so you don't feel like you deserve any better than, than these men who are, you know, not, not good. I don't want to say good enough, but not working for you in one way or another like you really are. But you're gonna have to turn this, this focus onto you. And you can even look at it as like, I'm going to intentionally take a break from dating. Not like, oh, I'm So lonely. I'm looking for somebody. This, this, this. But I'm gonna take a break from giving my energy to men or women or whoever you're into. And I'm gonna instead turn that energy on me. Cause something's missing in me.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah, I agree.

[Crissle West]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

And I think dating yourself can kind of be awkward or, like, learning to ride a bike or something else like that. But if you ever learned how to ride a bike or swim or do anything else like that, you fuck up a little bit, or it's awkward, or it might feel a little embarrassing. And then the more you do it, you're like, oh, swimming is excellent. And in fact, I might be able to win the Olympics or whatever. So, like, I would start asking, what am I into? What are some hobbies of mine that I could explore? And take yourself out and. And have a good time with yourself. Just, like, it doesn't have to, like, happy ain't gonna fall out the sky and hit you. When you hit it, you have to, like, get up and go get it, you know?

[Crissle West]

Yeah. Ooh, that's so real.

[Kid Fury]

Sometimes you have to just throw yourself into the pool. Pool being life. And wait around and figure some shit out until you're swimming and you're like, oh, yeah, I'm having a blast. I go to Barcade on Fridays. I do hot yoga, whatever. You know, like, just date you and have fun with yourself, even if it sounds awkward at first. Cause take it from me, sitting back and just watching the pit and being like, yeah, today's gonna be a great day. It is.

[Crissle West]

It. You do have to go get that great day. It's not just gonna. Remember when you asked me just yesterday about that website for people to go find. It's called Bucket Listers.

[Kid Fury]

I knew it had something to do with Bucket List, but I was like, that's not right.

[Crissle West]

Yeah, it's Bucket Listers. It just popped in my head. I don't think Bucket Listers is in every city, but you go, what do you, like, go out and find those things? Are you into sports? It's a lot of sports going on right now. Local meetups, stuff like that. I think you need to pour into yourself and really work on nurturing yourself. Because if you are just one of those people who doesn't feel happy unless you're dating, that's also a sign that you need to spend some time with you. You need to. That's a giant sign that you feel like something's missing. Because why do you feel like something's missing unless you're in a relationship, you were born single, and it's natural to want human companionship. I'm not saying you shouldn't want to be in a relationship or that. That friends can take the place of a relationship, because for most people, those are two different. Two different dynamics. But do you have friends? You didn't mention nothing about that in this letter. Like, what kind of. What are. What kind of life have you cultivated for yourself, babe? If you are just sitting around at home waiting for things to happen to you? Like, if you're saying you're going to end up miserable, like, and. And something that has been so hard for me to learn and accept is that sometimes motivation comes after you do things. And so we want the motivation to go do something. And we're like, I need to feel like doing this, I need to feel like doing that. No, set a timer and go force yourself to do it. Just force yourself to go outside or whatever and then see what happens after you do that. Like, sometimes you have to push yourself in that way. But you deserve all of the love and attention and care that you trying to give somebody else. You deserve all of that same energy. So I hope you do seriously consider, you know, just taking a break and figuring out what it is you need.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah.

[Crissle West]

Okay. Best of luck to you, baby girl. Let's see, everybody.

[Kid Fury]

I tell these niggas to clean up. There's absolutely no living. Goddamn.

[Crissle West]

An orange tub, baby. An orange tub.

[Kid Fury]

Like in. In. In no way. Under no circumstance.

[Crissle West]

The cat hair everywhere. You can get a cheap vacuum robot for under a hundred dollars that can. That can vacuum your. Vacuum your apartment twice a day on a schedule, even, like. But I am wishing you the best. It does look like everybody is dealing with relationships.

[Kid Fury]

Love it right now.

[Crissle West]

Of course they are. Our next letter comes from Adrian, who says, I've been with my man for about six years, and I cannot say I've been happy this entire time.

[Kid Fury]

I could have told you.

[Crissle West]

All right, all right. My partner has really just not been the best boyfriend. Why do I feel like.

[Kid Fury]

What are boyfriends doing?

[Crissle West]

Whatever. They. Whatever the fuck they want to. Wait, did we do this last week?

[Kid Fury]

It doesn't sound familiar.

[Crissle West]

Okay. We tried couples therapy, and it was painfully obvious to me and the therapist that he needed to seek individual help before we could make any progress. He's depressed, but it's quote unquote, everyone else's fault, and he still has not gotten help. My therapist provided free black male therapists that he could use and still nothing for our entire relationship. My pleasure and requests have never been much of a priority. But I've tried to remain open. It got to the point where last year I gave him three non negotiables because his apathy had started to trigger my depression and anxiety. Needless to say, he quickly forgot about them. I was planning my exit due to his lack of consistency, care, and consideration. But he's just now been diagnosed with a chronic illness. And now I don't know what to do. We're not married and we have no kids. We only live together. What would you do if you were in this situation? Any advice at all would be truly helpful and appreciated. Thanks so much, Adrienne.

[Kid Fury]

What I would advise.

[Crissle West]

Oh, Lord, that face. Yeah. What would you do?

[Kid Fury]

I think I'm just trying to decide if I would leave something there after I'm gone. I mean, before I'm gone.

[Crissle West]

Okay.

[Kid Fury]

You know what I'm saying?

[Crissle West]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. To remember me by.

[Kid Fury]

If I would leave you. Like, I was gonna make a terrible joke. I actually don't even know what the chronic illness is.

[Crissle West]

Oh, it's small.

[Kid Fury]

I would. Oh, okay. Yeah. I'm not gonna make a joke about that. I would. Yeah, I definitely think that I would. I would bounce and I would give some sort of. Whether it's a note or it is, I don't know, because I. I don't think I would want to converse with this person about this anyway. So I. I would just bounce and I would basically pro. Possibly leave something. Whether it is a note or a Best Buy polo.

[Crissle West]

Okay. They've been together for six years. Not the polo. They've been together for six years. You're not just going to leave. You're not just going to ghost the end of that relationship.

[Kid Fury]

No, I would break up, though. For sure.

[Crissle West]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

I would end the relationship because outside of, you know, this unfortunate illness and so on, I'm not going continue to build a life with someone or a partnership with someone when they're not interested in doing any work. To preserve it. To maintain the balance of it.

[Crissle West]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

To grow within it. It. I'm not going to. Because thing about it is the longer you sit there, the harder the inevitable.

[Crissle West]

Yes. Oh, God, yes. Oh, that's so true.

[Kid Fury]

So I would just be working on my exit strategy and be firm within it. That's that.

[Crissle West]

Yeah. Well, you know, Adrienne, I really feel for you because I probably could have written something similar to this. Not six years worth of a relationship, but I have definitely been in a relationship before where it was extremely obvious that this person needed to get some kind of help. And we came so close to breaking up multiple times. And then finally one day he was like, oh, well, I didn't want to tell you this because I didn't want you to leave me, but. But I have bipolar, but I don't need medicine for it. I'm in control of it. And it was like, well, if you were in control of it, then I don't think it would be affecting our relationship like this, you know, like, you clearly don't have it managed. Like, you clearly do need some kind of help. But when he told me that he had bipolar, I was like, oh, my God, now I can't leave him because it'll look like I'm leaving him because he has bipolar. It's like, baby, in hindsight, I should have left any fucking way.

[Kid Fury]

Exactly.

[Crissle West]

Because that. In the same breath that they told me they had this mental illness, they also told me they didn't need to see a psychiatrist or a therapist or be on medication for it because it was under control. Even though it was very much not under control. Like, we were fighting constantly because of this mental illness. Like, it isn't you. You don't got it, nigga. But I stayed because I was like, I can't leave now because it'll look like I'm leaving for this. And that's really fucked up. And things got much worse. Things got much, much worse. Got to the point where, you know, horrible things happened and I was. There was no other choice at that point. I had to leave for my own, you know, safety and well being. So I would. I get it. I get this feeling where it's like, damn. Like it's something going on here that explains this. And so if. If it. If it turned out that your partner had multiple sclerosis, which I don't know any of the symptoms of that or how that might manifest, I wouldn't be shocked if his depression and other stuff is somehow linked to that, because he's probably not been feeling well for a long time and not knowing what's going on. Um, but this is. This can be a rough thing to really internalize. But, like, we can't cure other people. We can't fix them. We're not their doctors. We're not in charge of their medication or their treatment plan. Like, we just are not. And we don't owe being in a relationship to anybody. It's been six years of you trying to make this. Make things work with this man. So I don't. I can't blame you at all if you leave. I probably would have been left at this point. But if you decide to stay, I would only. I think it would only be okay to stay if this man was making real progress towards treating whatever it is he has going on, especially in as much as it has a negative effect on you.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah, I agree.

[Crissle West]

Like, he, like you. Like you said in this email, he's depressed, but it's quote unquote, everybody else's fault. And he still hasn't gotten help. He's been offered free black therapist he could talk to. And it's just like, nah, I'm not gonna reach out. And you even told him, like, here are three things that I really need to have happen. And he was like, cool for a little while and then just was like, you know, whatever, gave up on it and just stopped thinking about it. Those are three giant signs that this man is not in a place to be thinking about taking care of you and nurturing a relationship, because he's probably not taking care of himself and nurturing himself. So again, I wouldn't recommend staying unless he is. Since the time you wrote this email, if all of a sudden he has just done a complete 180 and he's following up with his doctors and doing whatever he needs to address his issues, that would be a sign that maybe things are turning around and there's some hope here. But otherwise, please do not let the fact that he has something going on guilt you into staying in a relationship with this person.

[Kid Fury]

Right.

[Crissle West]

Because that will. That will fuck you over in the end.

[Kid Fury]

1000% every time you ain't his doctor. You can't.

[Crissle West]

Yeah. You know, like, what you. What I'm supposed to do, Like, I'm. I. I truly hate to hear that, but it's been six years of me waiting to act like. Waiting for you to act like the. My pleasure and the things that I want out of a relationship matter. Six fucking years. No. And I remember when I was in this same situation, it was like, well, he's gonna blame me for leaving. It's gonna be like. Since he told me that, like, it was gonna be my fault that the relationship ended. Like, this was before therapy, obviously, but it was like. Like I was going to be the bad guy and I didn't want to be the bad guy for leaving him, baby. Be. Be the quote, unquote, bad guy. That's fine. That. That's fine. I'd rather be the bad guy than be in a situation where I'm fucking miserable and the other person is contributing to that. Completely and just expecting me to sit back and. And hold that for all. For all eternity too. So yeah, sorry. Sorry that you're going through it, but yeah, you don't. You don't owe your happiness to this relationship. So.

[Kid Fury]

Right.

[Crissle West]

Good luck to you, babe. Our last letter comes yes, our last letter comes from Anissa who says Hey y', all, I'm in the thick of PhD applications during a particularly turbulent time in higher education. Thankfully, I have a cohort of black women academics in my corner, an excellent cv, and have been working towards obtaining this degree for a very, very long time. I have also worked hard to create a diverse list of schools to apply to with faculty fit and livable locations, so I'm confident this work will yield at least a few options to choose from at the end of this application season. A friend from a previous program has provide has offered to provide edits and feedback during my process if needed. However, I've barely taken her up on it because every conversation about grad school with her quickly slides from realistic to defeat. She often says that the school she attends wasn't her first, second or third choice, despite it being an R1 institution and a fully funded program, and she gets to work with a renowned advisor. She offered to show me her rejection letter from her top school and I'd politely declined because I know what an L looks like, even though thankfully I haven't collected many. This week during our co working check in, I shared that I felt stuck, but had a great chat with another friend in academia that helped me recalibrate my draft statement of purpose. She replied that she was sorry that she couldn't help with my crash out last night even though I hadn't asked her for any help and had only briefly texted to confirm and I had only briefly texted her to confirm that she arrived at her conference safely. Then she said sometimes what seems like droughts to other people are actually fields of flowers, and said I might end up at a school I didn't expect, but that would be a better fit and community for me. Like her, I'm all for realism. Yes, PhD applications are super competitive, but I can't help but feel like she's trying to prepare me to fail and doesn't believe that I can or will get accepted into any of my top choices. It feels like she's projecting her story onto mine and it pokes hard at my imposter syndrome. She's funny, kind, and a good friend. Otherwise I just don't need her consistently negative soundtrack playing in my head right now. I Always appreciate Yalls advice and welcome any feedback you might have on why this is such a sore spot between me and her. I'm trying my best to implement boundaries around what I discussed with her about grad school and I welcome any boundary scripts or reframing tips you might have. Appreciate you both. Love Anissa.

[Kid Fury]

Thanks, Anissa. Well, I mean, I can't. I can see how it might be difficult when she's saying shit like what we might think is a drought could be a field of flowers. Bitch, are you cool? What are you talking about? What does that mean?

[Crissle West]

You on Nicki shit, right?

[Kid Fury]

Like. Cause the prophet says that a flower in a field. Shut up. Like just say that sucks, right?

[Crissle West]

What do you mean a drought versus a field? I don't even. I don't get. I really you. She actually lost me with that one. I did not get that at all.

[Kid Fury]

That was very confusing, right?

[Crissle West]

But you know, I don't have a PhD, so I'm like, maybe this is.

[Kid Fury]

A PhD thing, right? You got gotta run right back to you, right. An old Chinese proverb or book somewhere I ain't read.

[Crissle West]

Right. I might just be too dumb for that one.

[Kid Fury]

But yeah, she lost me there. I don't know reframing wise. What do you think? Because I'm like, well, sometimes in those tricky moments, it can be difficult for anything to land. And it could. And it could also be difficult, I think think I'll speak for myself to determine like what it is I do need to hear.

[Crissle West]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

Because I won't even take advice. I won't even take like offense or be bothered by certain encouraging things that people will say. But sometimes it just doesn't make a way through because I'm too just sad or depressed, disappointed. And so it might not be effective in that way. But I think I'm also a person who if I got. If someone would just say some shit like a drow and a flower, I would probably out loud say right directly back to them, what are you talking about? And then maybe we would laugh about it, you know. But yeah, I don't know if it is a situation where. Where you feel Anissa specifically unhappy or displeased with conversation with her about this one thing. Yeah, I dial back talk to her about the game because if it's not helpful, it's not helpful. And not everyone is even interested in having conversations with their friend about like semantics, tone, intention and stuff. If you feel like there is something buried deep, deep there where she's always trying to woo, woo, woo you or Say some shit that don't make no damn sense or speak down to you or whatever. That's a different conversation. But, yeah, if it was just like, I don't really feel like I'm getting anything out of talking with her about this thing.

[Crissle West]

Yeah, it. You might be right, Anissa, about her projecting her experience onto you. You might be right.

[Kid Fury]

Right.

[Crissle West]

And, you know, in that case, I get it, because it does sound like your friend is coming from a good place. It doesn't sound like she's trying to tear you down. But sometimes people think that they're prepping us for disappointment when all they're doing is taking the wind out of our sails. And it's like, bitch, let me be happy. Like, let me be excited. Let me make some progress. Let me move forward. As opposed to, like, I do one thing, and then you come around talking about droughts that are really fields of flowers. And, you know, just so you know, I didn't get into my first, second, or third school. Okay, but you still got into a great school with a fully funded program and this incredible advisor. So it's like, well, okay, a lot of people don't get into their first, second, or third choice. Why would I want to see the rejection letter from your top school? Why? That don't have nothing to do with me. Our applications won't be the same. Maybe your programs aren't even the same. But it sounds like she's been disappointed, so she wants to try to help you avoid some of that disappointment. It's just that you're not taking it that way. You're very much taking it as like, damn, girl, I did not even ask for all this. And it sounds like it feels to me like. It feels to me like you don't believe in me. As opposed to you just trying to keep me from getting hurt. Those are. Those can be two sides of the same coin. So I would just talk to her about it. I would probably just straight up say it like that. Like, girl, I love you. You're a great friend. And at the same time, I can tell that you're coming from a good place. Like, you're trying to look out for me. And I really do appreciate that, because that's some real bitch shit. Like, you trying to keep me from being hurt, or, you know, trying to prep me for this PhDs, it's a competitive thing, et cetera, et cetera. And your feedback doesn't feel like that. It doesn't feel protective. It doesn't feel loving. It feels like you don't Believe in me. And that every time I turn around, you throwing another dart into my face of like, well, watch out for this. Beware of this. This is also shit. And don't. Like, like, I. It feels negative instead of positive. So it's a thin line between realistic and defeatist. Like you said, Aneesa. So if you haven't brought that up to her, I'm not shocked that she keeps doing it. She probably thinks she's helping somehow. You really do have to tell people when they're doing something that hurts you. Like, it's up to us to say something. Especially in situations like this where, you know, it's not like she cussed you out or beat your ass or something like that, where it's obvious she's in the wrong. Like, she might not even realize. She probably doesn't. That you're taking it this way. So you can. You can just kind of step back and be like, well, I'm just not gonna talk to her about it. But you already not really talking to her that much about it. It. She's volunteering this information. So that's why I'm saying, go ahead and just have the conversation with her. Let her know, like, you know, this hurts. And, you know, Anissa, maybe she isn't projecting. Maybe you have a history of being prepared to have your feelings hurt and that not feeling productive to you anymore. Like, for me, personally, I was literally, explicitly, verbatim told not to get my hopes up growing up because the adults around me did not want to have to deal with the fallout of me being disappointed or sad or hurt if the thing that I had my hopes up for didn't manifest or, you know, something else had to happen, and so the thing I wanted didn't happen. So I can see how, like, if I were you and somebody was constantly trying to damper my expectations, that would be triggering for me because it's like, nigga, leave me alone. Just like, just let me be happy. Let me be excited. If it don't work out or if it falls through or whatever, then we. I can handle that because I'm grown. But, you know, let me have my feelings. Let me have my joy that I fought so hard to get. So it could be her projecting, it could be you reacting. It could be a mixture of both. It could be neither of those things. But, you know, I don't think you'll know for sure until you have the conversation with her. And if she's as good of a friend as you think she is, she'll probably see what you saying and see how you can interpret it that way, even though that's not how she meant it at all. And then just switch the way she talks to you.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah, hopefully.

[Crissle West]

Yeah, hopefully. Hopefully so. But this sounds like the sort of thing that can be worked out with just an honest conversation that isn't blaming or, you know, doesn't get to this point of like, you suck. And just because you didn't get into your program doesn't mean I'm not getting into my. It doesn't have to go there. But you know, just two very smart ladies sitting down and having an open conversation about what's going on here, I think can really work.

[Kid Fury]

Agreed.

[Crissle West]

All right, babes. Man, that was a lot of yapping. Let's end the letters right there this week. Again, if you have a question for anyone, course send it to asktheread gmail.com, we'll be right back. Confronting high credit card debt can feel scary. But the good news is if you owe $10,000 or more in credit card debt, financial relief options are now available. National Debt relief is currently offering debt relief designed to reduce what you owe. Fast tracking your way to being debt free. If you qualify for debt relief, you may be able to pay back significantly less than what you owe and save thousands of dollars. Imagine only paying one low monthly program payment you can afford and saving money as you become debt free. National debt relief has already helped bring debt relief to over 550,000 US consumers, earning thousands of five star reviews and an A rating with the Better Business Bureau. You're stronger than your credit card debt. Take the first step and visit nationaldebtrelief.com to see what debt relief you qualify for. That's nationaldebtrelief.com.

[Kid Fury]

Okay, folks, we are back to the show and it's time for the read. I will begin because I don't have a real read, okay. But it is spooky season and so I thought, thought I would do something different. I rewatched Rosemary's Baby for I don't know how many whatever times the other day. And so this one is dedicated to Rosemary and a few other people. People. Okay, spoilers, I guess. Rosemary, what the fuck were you thinking about? And why didn't you ever just use your common good goddamn sense? The point of the film was your story just like, oh, look how much women will go along with to be me. And matronly like, I don't understand when you told them odd faced white people across the them old people across the hall or whatever that you had your own obstetrician. Why the fuck did you take their obstetrician? Just because they said so and because your husband thought it was a good idea. It's your position, baby. You have one already. Would you like. Oh, yeah. I was just listening to them eating up all their food, even though you said that it tasted chalky enough for you to throw it out. But then the bitch come and bring you a milkshake and you're ready to drink it again like you forgot what the fuck going on. You had a very vivid dream about having sex with the devil and woke up to scratches all over your body and your whack ass, lame ass husband talking about, oh, I'm sorry. I got a little excited. I just didn't want to miss baby night. And, you know, you were sleeping, so I just went ahead and did it. Okay, so first of all, if you didn't just get fucked by a demon, then that means that your living husband was fucking you while you were knocked out. I'd leave. Then you didn't. And so you then, you know, decide to go ahead and bring this baby to term and you give birth to the fucking devil, sweetie. I don't know what. Or the Antichrist.

[Crissle West]

Oh, I've never seen.

[Kid Fury]

I don't know what you were thinking about. Oh, Rosemary Baby is an icon. But it came out in 1960. It's old.

[Crissle West]

Okay.

[Kid Fury]

So, yeah, you go ahead. You give birth to this baby. They told you the baby was dead. Then you hear the baby crying. You go over to your husband and this whole cult of in another room with this baby in an Adam's family carriage or whatever, which leads me to the other person I really want to read here. I don't even know if you were given a name in the film, ma', am, but those of you who've seen Rosemary Baby, you know exactly who I'm talking about. You remember at the end of the movie where that one witch bitch was, like, rocking the cradle extra hard? Like, I don't know, like she was rowing a boat across the pale blue sea. Like she's just aggressively rocking the cradle that the devil baby is in and devil baby is crying. And so Rosemary, who I guess wants to be the baby mama anyway, goes over and says, let me do it or something. And the witch had the nerve to, like, get mad at her. No, I've got this. No, you go sit down. To which someone had to get her together and say, she is his mother. Respect her, because I guess, you know, he's Royalty being, you know, like, the prince of evil or.

[Crissle West]

Okay, yeah, sure.

[Kid Fury]

But to that bitch who tried to tell Rosemary to get somewhere. Ho. I just gave birth to the devil. I can do whatever the fuck I want to do. Get out of my goddamn living way, bitch, and give me this motherfucking. Are you stupid, bitch? I just pushed a demon on my pussy, and you're gonna tell me what the fuck I can and can't do with it? You better be lucky I don't have him kill you first, bitch.

[Crissle West]

Oh. Oh, my God.

[Kid Fury]

I mean, if I'm raising the Antichrist, I might as well have some fun with it. I mean, sure, George Zimmerman got to trump. Like, we just go, even the devil is my son. I mean, we get to work, but I feel like everybody was out of the bound. The husband. I'm sure you're still gonna flop. Haven't seen you in anything since. And to Aunt Gladys across the hall. I can't reach you. You're fierce. You're just great. I mean, you. You. You saw Lick. You hit it, and you were successful icon. Rosemary's Baby, folks. You're welcome, Roman Polanski. I'm finished.

[Crissle West]

Okay. Now I feel like I need to go see this movie.

[Kid Fury]

I mean, it's a horror movie. I mean, it was more like a psychological horror movie. It's really not that scary.

[Crissle West]

Is this scarier than the Ecstasy?

[Kid Fury]

No.

[Crissle West]

Okay, then I can watch it.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah.

[Crissle West]

The Exorcist is, like, one of my benchmarks.

[Kid Fury]

You don't even see the baby at the end. You just hear the baby crying, and you see a big creepy or big black carriage. But it's more. What's fun about Rosemary's Baby is if you don't know the story or whatever, it does spend a good time making you go, is this lady tripping?

[Crissle West]

Got you.

[Kid Fury]

Are these just nice neighbors? And she's just losing her fucking mind? It's a good psychological horror. It doesn't do a whole bunch of boo boo. Jump, jump, jump. It's not like that.

[Crissle West]

Gotcha.

[Kid Fury]

That's why it's iconic.

[Crissle West]

Okay.

[Kid Fury]

I also love. There's a part where Mia Farrow cuts her hair short in the movie, the iconic haircut. And someone says to her, it looks bad. She asked, what if it looks bad? I said, yes. Like, they kind of blame her for, like, cutting her hair short was like, having a psychotic break. She looks like a fucking supermodel.

[Crissle West]

Okay, let me watch this movie.

[Kid Fury]

I'm like, back then, maybe having short hair was, like, meant you were ugly or unfeminine or something, but I'm like, she looks like Twiggy. What are they talking about?

[Crissle West]

Yeah, okay. Yeah, well, speaking of old white movies, this is not really part of my read, but after Diane Keaton died, I saw all these posts about, oh, my God, it's gonna be so hard to watch the Family Stone this year. And I was like, oh, no, let me watch the Family Stone. I don't know what y' all are talking about. Have you seen that movie?

[Kid Fury]

No.

[Crissle West]

Um, okay, well, I won't spoil it, but I'll just suffice to say I do not know why y' all are so emotionally touched to that movie. Like, I get it.

[Kid Fury]

Oh, I have seen this.

[Crissle West]

So if it's like a good 20 years old, I'm gonna adore you. Oh, wow. Okay. So. So I get it. Because Diane Keaton's character dies, Obviously she's sick. And so I get it's sad for that reason, but that movie is some white nonsense. The fact that everybody was after Sarah Jessica Parker's character was sitting there at that table being homophobic and ra. And racist and. And. And talking about. You didn't really pray for gay kids, did you? I just feel like any parent would want a normal child. And then after that shit, and then looking at the black man like. You get what I'm saying, right? Like, black ain't normal. She said that stupid shit and then got up and ran away crying. And y' all are like, oh, no, we need to go apologize to her. Oh, no, we feel so bad. For what? For what?

[Kid Fury]

She got a Golden Globe, mom for that. What?

[Crissle West]

This is white bullshit. And then the brothers just trade. And then he just. They. They just kind of trade girls that they're interested in, and Sarah Jessica Parker ends up with the brother and. And he ends up with her sister. And so it's just. What. What the fuck is that movie?

[Kid Fury]

Honestly, it's like many family come together because of a tragic. Because of a tragedy stories. It's not where it's like, oh, scandal. Oh, horrible person. Oh, everyone hates this bitch. Oh, this family member is the comedic relief, but actually has the darkest story and they've been using. It's just like, I've seen a billion movies. Yeah.

[Crissle West]

I do not like that movie.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah, no, it's not one of them. I forgot I had it.

[Crissle West]

Can't believe y' all are this sentimental about this. This is not. I can't believe y' all watch it every holiday. The fuck.

[Kid Fury]

There's. There's a white family gets together and they're all trash family that I movie that I like. And I can't think of what it is right now.

[Crissle West]

I did, like, stepmother with.

[Kid Fury]

Oh, yeah, no, that's like.

[Crissle West]

Or stepmom. Yeah, stepmom. Yeah. And who I think is a bitch now. And Julia Roberts.

[Kid Fury]

Julia Roberts is she.

[Crissle West]

I think Susan Sarandon is. I think she's a Zionist. Don't let me.

[Kid Fury]

Oh, I thought you meant Julia Roberts.

[Crissle West]

I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not that queen. Okay, so. But onto things that really matter. First of all. La. Lainey, you fucking bitch, man. The fuck, bro?

[Kid Fury]

What did our very innocent queen who's never.

[Crissle West]

She is not innocent. I am recording from my iPad today because my laptop is broken because I was taking a zoom meeting the other day, and it was my fault for taking this zoom meeting on the couch where Lainey could access me, I guess, because everybody keeps saying she's innocent. So I found a way to blame myself for this. This bitch just hopped right up on my lap and bit the corner of my laptop screen and cracked that bitch. Like, literally. As my zoom meeting meeting was ending, all of a sudden my screen goes completely black because Lainey chomps on it and the other person is still talking. And I was like, I have to go. I can't see anything because my fucking dog just cracked my laptop screen. So, yeah, had to take that thing to Apple. Thank God I have AppleCare plus on that computer, but they don't have the screen in stock, so it's going to take them instead of three to five days. She was like, sorry. Probably closer to a week. And. But it ended up being $99 as opposed to, like $600 to fix. But I told her my puppy ate. Chomped. My fucking puppy chewed my computer screen. She was like, that happens a lot, actually. Puppies and cats.

[Kid Fury]

I knew she was gonna say that.

[Crissle West]

Nigga, why have I spent a quarter million dollars on toys and things for you around this house if you just gonna chew on my million dollar? Why? Why, why? Why did I buy things for you to chew? You have multiple things that are just for chewing. Yeah, different.

[Kid Fury]

And she said, so do you.

[Crissle West]

Texture. I said, this is really a first world problem. Like, I'm just gonna use my iPad instead. But I'm so annoyed right now. Like, the fuck is wrong with you? It's not the same. I want my fucking computer back.

[Kid Fury]

That is crazy.

[Crissle West]

So, Lainey, you're on my.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah. Link on me about $5,000. So, I mean, I said, yeah, you.

[Crissle West]

Might actually have to. I've been resistant to, like, getting her an Instagram. And, you know, when brands ask to send her stuff, I'm always like, no, Lainey doesn't work. She's a pet. But you know what? You might have to start.

[Kid Fury]

Take the gift.

[Crissle West]

Yeah, we might have to start. Cause you on my nerves. You on my nerves real bad. You need to start bringing some money in this bitch. Cause what the fuck?

[Kid Fury]

The doggie care packages are cute too. Depending. A lot of the times when people are like, oh, can we send something for Link? I still go, what? Like, why do you even remember I have a dog? And then consider it. Oh, man, you get cute stuff. I have like a Stanley bowl for her that I got from somewhere. I don't remember.

[Crissle West]

Oh, cute.

[Kid Fury]

Clifford the Big Red Dog plushie, I think when like a movie came out.

[Crissle West]

Well, I'm finna. I'm finna.

[Kid Fury]

Cause wow, how much of it does she use?

[Crissle West]

I will. You will simply never have one of my electronics anywhere near your little furry face again. I've learned my lesson. But like, wow.

[Kid Fury]

Who knew that you crack the laptop is wild.

[Crissle West]

Crack the whole. When I tell you the screen went from perfectly clear to all black. And then in the upper right hand corner, you can just see where the pixels have cracked and all that. You could just see it just right there. Like, just. Okay, bitch.

[Kid Fury]

She said, well, enough of that.

[Crissle West]

I said, wrap that shit up.

[Kid Fury]

That is fierce.

[Crissle West]

So she's on my shit list. Mama Dee.

[Kid Fury]

Oh, God.

[Crissle West]

Mama Dee and Scrappy were on Nick Cannon's podcast Guest. It's called We Play in Spades. They're sitting at this table. This part doesn't. What I'm saying now, doesn't really matter. But Scrappy is telling this story of how at his 14th birthday party, Mama D hired strippers.

[Kid Fury]

Oh, God.

[Crissle West]

Mama D had strippers. Grown women, at her 14 year old sons, so that he wouldn't be gay. Of course, she said that they lived in Atlanta and no offense to the LGBTQ community, but I wanted him to chase pussy, not purses. And so at 14. At 14, yes, work. She actually said, quote, nothing against the LGBT community, but I just wanted him to chase pussy. Then to hold a purse, which is not a sentence that makes sense, but yeah, it doesn't shout out to Scrappy, who has been in therapy and said, okay, so like I said, this was actually trauma. It was actually traumatizing to have strippers at my 14th birthday party. And she said that, you know, when the stripper showed up, a lot of the kids Left and went and got their parents like as grown naked women at this party. And the parents came back and was like, the is going on. And Mama D was like, Yeah, I stood 10 toes down on that. If you got kids in here that you, you don't want them to be around and you got little boys in here, you. You don't want them to be around it, that's fine, get your kids. But that's what we doing at this party. And it was like. And she didn't feel no type of way. He said that was traumatizing. She was like, so is traumatizing. Maybe having sex workers at your child's birthday party was the traumatizing thing. You stupid.

[Kid Fury]

By way of your mother.

[Crissle West]

Your mother. He said not. He didn't say it. It's some. Some girl, Courtney B. Who's also, I guess she's one of the hosts of the show. Nick Cannon is cracking up the whole time. He thinks this is hilarious. Well, we all know he's. That's nobody's father of the year, but.

[Kid Fury]

Right.

[Crissle West]

So the other girl was like, most 14 year olds is getting bikes, you know, for their birthday like this.

[Kid Fury]

Hello.

[Crissle West]

We're not giving them for they birthday. Mama D was like, you know that. I just, you know, it was Atlanta. I had to do what I could to make sure he wasn't gonna be gay. Blah, blah, blah.

[Kid Fury]

As it.

[Crissle West]

Okay, so number one, strippers won't change your child's sexual orientation. If your child likes dick, putting a bunch of stranger grown muff in his face is not gonna change that. You should have been arrested. And I mean immediately on the spot. Immediately. I'm wondering what the statute of limitations is. Like, I'm sure it's expired, but I wish you could still be. I wish you could still be prosecuted. Right, because Scrappy is 40 now, so I'm sure. But like. And then to justify it with. Well, it was Atlanta, like almost like what was I supposed to do? Some people really do not deserve kids. They just don't. They just don't. You was. So you would rather. And, and of course a bunch of the comments on Instagram especially are people being like, what kind of nigga complains about getting strippers for his birthday? I would have been happy, honestly, if you was 14 and still a virgin. It was something wrong with you anyway. This is like all you are wounded as fuck. All you niggas are hurt as fuck. 14. What? So a 14 year old girl, you would hire a bunch of grown men to come down and shake dick in her face in their draws. No, you wouldn't. You would immediately see there was a problem with that. Y' all don't protect these little boys. And then you wonder why they grow up to be menaces. You wonder why can't nobody find a decent nigga. Y' all don't raise decent niggas. You set them up to fail. As soon as Scrappy told this story, I said every fucking thing that Scrappy has done on Love and Hip Hop Atlanta now makes sense to me. I mean, and I, I mean as soon as we met Mama Dee, because it's very clear that bitch has a lot going on. I, it has to be drugs, alcohol, some real substance abuse, other shit going on there. I wouldn't be surprised if she's been traumatized and abused herself in a multitude of ways. But God damn, girl, not, you know, looking back on it now, you need.

[Kid Fury]

A lengthy stay, you know, you need extensive, extensive insane, deep unwinding and untangling for you to consider, to still, still be defending the 14 year old party that you had for your child. That's 40 now, right?

[Crissle West]

Yeah. 25 plus years later, you didn't say, you know, in hindsight, what kind of bird bitch hires strippers for her teenager's birthday party? That's really, you know, it wasn't his 21st birthday. It. And by 14, the child probably already has a pretty good idea of who they are sexually anyway. If you were concerned about your child's sexuality, then you should have taken a good look at yourself because there's nothing to be concerned with, right? It is what it is. Nothing against the LGBT community, but I just didn't want that in my house. That's basically what you said. I hate when y' all say I'm not homophobic. I just didn't want a gay child. Girl, you. That's homophobia. And gay or not, putting a bunch of stranger pussy in his face is not going to change the outcome. You're fucking weird.

[Kid Fury]

On top of the fact that you are affecting other children who you are not the parent of. Just false. Didn't ask your adult pussy to be around them, just, oh my God, you lucky. Then you didn't get your ass beat for real.

[Crissle West]

You really did.

[Kid Fury]

Nobody could easily come back to this party and confronted you and got whatever it is you claim you said and then beat your ass like that could have very easily taken place.

[Crissle West]

This was supposed, this was a house party in the hood. It's supposed to be a barbecue, it's supposed to be loud ass music. Some Adults somewhere off in the corner smoking weed. Not over there by them kids, you know, and maybe some alcohol. You know, adults love to go off and have their own little shit somewhere off in the corner. But this is a 14 year old cold's party. That should have been the worst of it. Yeah, loud ass music, kids running around, right? Yes. Kids dancing. Because these are what, 8th, 9th graders are you out your mind?

[Kid Fury]

Yeah, around there. Strippers.

[Crissle West]

Strippers shout out to therapy. As Scrappy said. You know, going to therapy really made me realize that situation. That wasn't no cute little haha like that really me up. Like he's being real about that. He's being vulnerable about it. Nick Cannon is over here when I tell you, cracking up. Nick Cannon don't see nothing sad or wrong or up in this situation at all. This is rolling. The other girl, bless her heart, she look like. I just, I don't know about this. Seem kind of up, you know, break the tension here. But Mama D stood on that even now 25 plus years later.

[Kid Fury]

And you know what's crazy about that shit too is this like Scrappy now for a little while has been open about the traumas of his childhood by way of his mom and has confronted her now about it and her being like making excuses and stuff and stuff and stuff. So to now see like a year, two years or whatever since the last time I seen them arguing about it.

[Crissle West]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

For her to be looking plain as day directly into the face of something wrong.

[Crissle West]

Yep, yep. And say I just didn't want you to be chasing purses. I.

[Kid Fury]

No offense to the gay community, lady. Nurse, plea. Nurse, come get her.

[Crissle West]

Come get her. If it.

[Kid Fury]

She's out again.

[Crissle West]

If it turns out in a few years. Scrappy don't talk to his mama no more. I want y' all to leave that man alone. Don't ask no questions.

[Kid Fury]

Oh, I will. I'm waiting.

[Crissle West]

I don't want to hear no. That's right.

[Kid Fury]

They were together for this.

[Crissle West]

I don't want to hear no, but that's still your mama. I don't want to hear none of that shit because this bitch is a horrible person. You still, even now you can't say.

[Kid Fury]

I ain't say she wasn't my mama. I said I'm not talking to that.

[Crissle West]

Bitch like your son said. That was traumatizing. Why didn't you say I'm sorry, son. The last thing I wanted to do was traumatize my son.

[Kid Fury]

Even with a little dumb ass homophobic excuse.

[Crissle West]

Girl, fuck you stupid at all.

[Kid Fury]

I Didn't consider it. Consider it being traumatizing. That wasn't my intention. I am sorry. I wish I would have done something. I just didn't want you to chase purses.

[Crissle West]

I was deep in my drugs and alcohol and I was a dude.

[Kid Fury]

All these your children friends.

[Crissle West]

Okay you stupid cunt.

[Kid Fury]

Like Crystal said, this is exactly what what we be talking about when it comes to the kids and how you you treat them in the way to do right by them. Because it really does disgust me that will look at this in the comments and be like what was wrong?

[Crissle West]

I wish it was strippers at my birthday party.

[Kid Fury]

Yeah, the nurse need to come and collect your ass too. Yeah, everybody's broken do and cuz bitch.

[Crissle West]

But talk about gay people grooming kids. Talk about drag queens are unnatural and drag queens influence these children. And, and, and we the ones trying to force a lifestyle or a sexuality onto these kids. You literally tried to strong arm your child into being straight by hiring grown women who also should have been arrested as soon as they realized they was at a 14 year old's birthday party. Should have said bitch, I'm putting on my fucking fila and going home. I'm not staying here to shake ass for no little boys. What's wrong with you hoes?

[Kid Fury]

I don't know.

[Crissle West]

Y' all don't give a fuck about these kids. Not one fuck about these kids. Just fucking em up left and right.

[Kid Fury]

Bush queens love strippers. Like female strippers, dude. Like it wouldn't even, you know what I'm saying? Like my gay ass. A male stripper would have been like.

[Crissle West]

Where you get that body glitter?

[Kid Fury]

You will probably not catch me dead but oh I love Onyx, bitch. I'm also from Miami. Like I love the girl.

[Crissle West]

Yeah.

[Kid Fury]

So you really weren't going.

[Crissle West]

It's not going to change that. Wasn't going to do shit, you dumb cunt. It doesn't change anything. All you did was fuck him up. You added something else to the long list of fucked up shit you did to that little boy. And even now at your giant age you can't apologize and be accountable for it.

[Kid Fury]

Gross. You remember when, you remember when Thorgy Thor got eliminated off of All Stars and she just went gross.

[Crissle West]

Oh my God. Yes. That's how I felt when I watched this clip. I was like, there is no fucking way man. There is no fucking way. Okay. Anyway, last but not least, Stephen A. Smith loves to run his mouth. We know. And it done caught up with him a couple of times. He said something. Remember when Kendrick did The Super Bowl.

[Kid Fury]

Yes.

[Crissle West]

And Serena was there and he said something about, I wouldn't let my wife dance for no another man. So Alexis Ohanian was on ESPN last week and said, are you married? Stephen A. Have you been married before? And Stephen A. Like, I'm not the one. You know, I don't give marriage advice. You know, that's the headlines, blah, blah. He was like, I was actually hoping you was gonna be here in person today so we could have a conversation, you know, face to face about this. Because, you know, I give advice to founders who want to build billion dollar companies. And the reason I do that is because I build billion dollar companies. So, you know, when. When you don't have a successful marriage, talking about what you would and would not let your wife is void, who the cares where's your successful marriage? I'm sitting here talking to the zoom you and not the real you.

[Kid Fury]

So that white man does not mind.

[Crissle West]

He not scared. And when I tell you Stephen A. Was stuttering, talking all over him, tripping over his fucking tongue. Couldn't even get it out fast enough. Just, oh, yeah, where was all that energy? You don't have it in person. You never do. LeBron checked you. You did the same shit. You don't. So. And he said something about Jasmine Crockett last week, I guess he also has a podcast and he was saying, jasmine Crockett, you know, smart woman, blah, blah, blah. The. But is this really the right way to get things done? Like the way she talks? I just don't think it's that useful. You know, she's just making fun of Trump and making fun of Abbott and, you know, calling him Hot Wheels and all this shit. And I just feel like, you know, you.

[Kid Fury]

Everybody got.

[Crissle West]

Y' all do, which is ableist, but y' all do anyway. And I just. Just pretend I do not see it right. But yeah, so he was. He criticized Jasmine Crockett for those things and was like, you know, I just feel like you got to reach across the aisle and try to work with these people so things can be better for your constituents. That's how I know. First of all, Stephen A. Smith, you don't pay attention because look at the state of the goddamn country. These people not working with us on shit. They are here to make sure they stay rich and get richer. And the same happens for their white male friends who have even more money than they do. They do not give a fuck about Jasmine Crockett's constituents. They don't give a fuck about their constituents. You just over here running your fucking mouth. And so plies. I just want to play for you.

[Kid Fury]

Plies.

[Crissle West]

Plies the plies. The rapper Plies jumped into this conversation when he heard what Stephen A. Smith said. And this is what he had to say.

[Kid Fury]

Let me, let me pull this up. Not Florida.

[Crissle West]

Oh no you f to be proud house. Yeah house. Stop getting mad at everybody else. Cause everybody else don't want to be a house like you. Be happy you a house. Be glad it worked out for you and your family ass. Everybody don't want to be no house.

[Kid Fury]

Oh you, you.

[Crissle West]

You ought to be nice to Master. You ought to get along with master to get. Everybody don't want to get along with master. Some people still got principles. Use a user. User already get along with master.

[Kid Fury]

People.

[Crissle West]

You don't say nothing but master out here talking to everybody crazy ass. It's cool for Master to talk to everybody crazy. I'm obsessed with this.

[Kid Fury]

You all to get along with me.

[Crissle West]

Master good does so sick of you. I don't know what to do man. Cause everybody else don't want to be no house like you. Be happy you a house. Stop trying to tell some body else what to do. Still some people out here that believe in what they believe in. Oh period sir. Want everybody to do something how you did it just cause you kiss the ass. Everybody don't want to do that to get in the ac puss ass. So sick of you. I don't know what to do. That's all you want to run around here not do. Get mad at everybody else. Because everybody else don't want to be a house like you.

[Kid Fury]

He is pissed like.

[Crissle West]

Everybody else. The alone. Oh exactly. I said. You know what? When a black king is correct I'mma just step back because I can't say it better than that. Shut the up Stephen A. Smith. Everybody not no boot licking ass coon like you. Some of us really do say what we mean and stand on that. Everybody not bending over backwards to make white people happy. Everybody not trying to appease their corporate overlords like you. Some of us have enough. We're not aspiring for even more and even better and constantly just an endless drive for domination over others. We don't need all that. That not. Not if that means we got to shut the up when. When white supremacy is rearing its ugly ass head. You see the shit going on in this country and you want to defend Trump and Abbott instead of the black woman. Really the people making things worse for other niggas because you a nigga who actually Got a few dollars. Let's see if you have that same energy for ply. Something tells me you will not. But maybe Stephen A. Smith ought to start just watching his fucking. Maybe it's time for Stephen A. Smith to start watching his fucking mouth. It's time.

[Kid Fury]

I think it's been time.

[Crissle West]

It's time for you to start watching your mouth. Because Alexis Ohanian almost said, fuck these billions show up in person. I came to. I flew to New York City, and I thought I was gonna see you right on here at the pier. Where you at?

[Kid Fury]

Drop the low, because I'm.

[Crissle West]

I wanna talk. I wanna talk. Cause you had plenty to say about my wife.

[Kid Fury]

Wife?

[Crissle West]

And. And ain't she married? I wouldn't let no woman mind yours, guys.

[Kid Fury]

Also, I'm tired of hearing people say to black women, oh, well, how they say, bro, shut the fuck up.

[Crissle West]

Okay, how about how. How you gobble my nuts? You worry about that? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I already can't handle Stephen A. As soon as first take comes on, I mute the TV or I turn it to something else because he just gonna get to hollering. I don't want to hear it. Like, unless it's a bunch of uncles on debating football, I will just switch to something else. Because, girl, for what? For what? For what?

[Kid Fury]

It's.

[Crissle West]

Stick to whatever it is that you do know. Nigga being mad at the Knicks hating LeBron. Stick to those things. Because the. The rest of it, it sound like your mouth gonna write a check that your ass can't cash. And that will wrap up this week's episode of the Read. Find us on social media at this is the Read. Our website is this istheread.com. anything else from you, Kid Fury.

[Kid Fury]

Yes, you can find [e-mail] patreon.com Kid Fury. And take care of yourselves.

[Crissle West]

All right, girls, we will see y' all next week.