Logic: "I spent millions of dollars on my own film" - The Really Good Podcast with Bobbi Althoff

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Podcast Summary: The Really Good Podcast with Bobbi Althoff
Episode: Logic: "I spent millions of dollars on my own film"
Release Date: May 29, 2025

Introduction

In this engaging episode of The Really Good Podcast, host Bobbi Althoff sits down with renowned rapper and filmmaker, Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II). The conversation delves deep into Logic's personal life, his transition from music to filmmaking, mental health struggles, and his perspectives on social media and art.

Personal Background

Location and Identity
Logic begins by sharing his current residence in Oregon, mentioning past ownership of a condo in the Palisades that he hopes to sell. He introduces himself as "Bobby Logic," a name his family has affectionately given him.

Logic (00:28): "I always introduce myself as Bobby."

Early Life and Family Challenges

Difficult Upbringing
Logic opens up about his challenging childhood in Maryland, highlighting experiences with domestic abuse and instability.

Logic (09:09): "I grew up in the hood. Super, like gnarly shit in my household. Like prostitutes and murder."

Relationship with His Mother
He recounts a traumatic memory where his mother almost choked him during his childhood, emphasizing the emotional and physical abuse he endured.

Logic (09:39): "When I was a kid, my mom almost choked me to death. It was pretty gnarly."

Building a New Family: Marriage and Children

Meeting His Wife
Logic discusses meeting his now-wife at a smoothie shop in Calabasas, Los Angeles. They have been together for seven years, and he expresses deep love and admiration for her.

Logic (11:04): "I love her so much. She's really beautiful."

Fatherhood
He introduces his children, highlighting the joy they bring into his life. Logic expresses the challenges of balancing fame with being a present father.

Logic (12:20): "That's little Bobby getting his blue belt."

Career Shift to Filmmaking

Transition from Music to Film
After years of pursuing music and facing numerous rejections, Logic decided to invest millions in his own film project, "Paradise Records," which he wrote and directed. The film is slated to premiere at the Tribeca Film Festival.

Logic (14:17): "After a long time of wanting to make movies... I spent millions of dollars on my own film."

“Paradise Records” Overview
Logic describes "Paradise Records" as a comedy about a man losing his shop that unexpectedly transforms into an action-packed narrative reminiscent of Tarantino's style.

Logic (14:50): "It's a comedy about a guy who's losing his shop that turns into like some crazy Tarantino action shit."

Creating "Paradise Records"

Inspiration and Development
Logic explains that the idea for "Paradise Records" originated when he was 25. Encouraged by a friend, he pursued filmmaking despite initial setbacks, eventually writing and directing the film himself.

Logic (15:05): "I heard that you don't actually do research... I was like, fuck yeah."

Expectations and Nervousness
He expresses both excitement and anxiety about the film's reception and distribution, hoping it gains substantial visibility.

Logic (24:15): "I'm super nervous about it. Honestly."

Mental Health and Overcoming Anxiety

Personal Struggles
Logic candidly discusses his battles with anxiety, including a severe panic attack that led him to the hospital. He shares how therapy and writing novels have been pivotal in his healing process.

Logic (37:12): "I went to the fucking hospital... They gave me a fucking Ativan."

Coping Mechanisms
He highlights the importance of therapy, journaling, and focusing on positive relationships to maintain mental well-being.

Logic (33:24): "I'm finding peace within myself, especially through therapy and understanding my worth."

Views on Social Media

Negative Impacts
Logic critiques the detrimental effects of social media on mental health, emphasizing how it can exacerbate anxiety and foster negativity.

Logic (34:50): "It's really messing our brains up a lot."

Personal Approach
He reveals that he hasn't been on social media for nearly eight years, preferring real-life interactions over online validation.

Logic (33:52): "I'm not on it. It wasn't good for me."

Future Aspirations: Acting and Continued Filmmaking

Acting Ventures
Logic shares his enthusiasm for acting, mentioning a minor role he played alongside Chloe Grace Moretz in an upcoming film. He aspires to expand his presence in the film industry while maintaining his commitment to family.

Logic (47:30): "It was a cool little role. It was with Chloe Grace Moretz."

Continued Filmmaking
He reiterates his dedication to creating meaningful cinema, aiming to produce projects that resonate on a personal and societal level.

Logic (52:22): "I'm sitting on like 10 albums so I can just release them for my fans, then tour every once in a while. But really focus on movies."

Philosophies on Art and Success

Art for Art and Commerce
Logic delineates two types of artists: those who create art purely for artistic expression and those who do so for commercial success. He asserts that neither approach is wrong and underscores the importance of authenticity.

Logic (75:00): "There's the artist that makes art for art and there's the artist that makes art for money. And I believe that neither is wrong."

Realism and Determination
He emphasizes the value of realism in pursuing one's dreams, advocating for determination and persistence as keys to success.

Logic (66:20): "With determination, persistence, and realism... you can attain anything."

Closing Remarks

In the concluding moments, Logic reflects on his journey from a troubled childhood to a successful career, underscoring the significance of focusing on genuine relationships and personal growth over external validation. He expresses gratitude for the support of his friends, family, and fans, while also acknowledging the challenges that come with fame.

Logic (82:43): "I really did used to focus on the negative so much... I decided to just focus on reality and kind people."

Notable Quotes

Logic (09:09): "I grew up in the hood. Super, like gnarly shit in my household. Like prostitutes and murder."
Logic (14:17): "After a long time of wanting to make movies... I spent millions of dollars on my own film."
Logic (33:24): "I'm finding peace within myself, especially through therapy and understanding my worth."
Logic (75:00): "There's the artist that makes art for art and there's the artist that makes art for money. And I believe that neither is wrong."
Logic (82:43): "I really did used to focus on the negative so much... I decided to just focus on reality and kind people."

Conclusion

This episode offers a profound look into Logic's multifaceted life, highlighting his resilience, artistic vision, and commitment to personal well-being. Listeners gain valuable insights into navigating fame, overcoming personal struggles, and pursuing one's passions with authenticity and determination.

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[00:00]
Elena
Where do you live?
[00:02]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I live in Oregon.
[00:04]
Elena
Nice.
[00:05]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, I had a place in the Palisades, but.
[00:08]
Elena
Oh, God, it's gone now.
[00:09]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Well, I had a condo and everything around it is gone.
[00:12]
Elena
But it's still there?
[00:13]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, but it's kind of fucked up.
[00:15]
Elena
Are you gonna sell it?
[00:17]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Hopefully.
[00:18]
Elena
Is it up for sale?
[00:20]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It was, and then it was like a whole thing, so I don't know. Hopefully somebody. We'll figure it out.
[00:28]
Elena
I. I heard you go by Bob.
[00:30]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Bob, Bobby Logic, anything, whatever you prefer. I always introduce myself as Bobby.
[00:36]
Elena
Bobby.
[00:37]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
So this is like a Bob on Bob card.
[00:39]
Elena
Crazy. Yeah. This is wild. Growing up. Well, actually, to this day, my family calls me Bob, so.
[00:45]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Really?
[00:46]
Elena
Yeah.
[00:47]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Is this already starting? Is this a thing?
[00:48]
Elena
It's probably starting.
[00:49]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
We're here.
[00:50]
Elena
Should we do it? Should we start?
[00:52]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yes.
[00:53]
Elena
All right. Welcome to the really good podcast today. I'm here with. Go ahead and introduce yourself.
[01:00]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Hi.
[01:01]
Elena
Your name?
[01:02]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, I'm Bobby Logic. Bobby Logic. Sorry about that.
[01:05]
Elena
Where'd Logic come from?
[01:07]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, man, that was. I'm so nervous right now. I haven't done an interview in years.
[01:16]
Elena
Did you write it down, Your answer? Maybe.
[01:18]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No. Well, I figured. I heard that you don't actually do research.
[01:21]
Elena
No. Well, I started very easy, a little nervous. Just take. Think back to when it. When it began.
[01:28]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I just always. I've. Well, first and foremost, I just. I always feel like it's really weird around cameras.
[01:33]
Elena
There's only three, only four, five. Wow.
[01:39]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What was the question?
[01:41]
Elena
Where did the name Logic come from?
[01:44]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Well, when I was young, I looked up. Can I have some water?
[01:47]
Elena
Oh, yeah, sorry, I just. I don't have any. But someone does.
[01:51]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
So anxious right now.
[01:52]
Elena
Have so much water.
[01:53]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Sorry.
[01:58]
Elena
Man, it's a hard question.
[01:59]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It's so weird. No, it's not a hard question. It's so.
[02:01]
Elena
It's a hard thing to do. It's.
[02:03]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, it's like I just quit the vape and.
[02:07]
Elena
Why'd you quit?
[02:08]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
You know, Because I want to live.
[02:10]
Elena
Yeah, that's a good reason for sure.
[02:12]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I try to.
[02:14]
Elena
Why don't you do one of those ones that is just zero percent nicotine?
[02:19]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Because I hawked so much shit up out of my lungs. So I wasn't really with the.
[02:24]
Elena
Oh, you don't want just the flavor?
[02:25]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, it was actually in a dictionary, you know, I looked up psychological and then I was. I went by that for like a really long time.
[02:34]
Elena
By what?
[02:35]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
My rap name?
[02:37]
Elena
You're answering the question now. I thought we were talking about vapes.
[02:40]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
You tell me what it has to be.
[02:42]
Elena
But then we started talking about vapes. I thought we were still doing that.
[02:44]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, you. And so I. Okay, so I was like 18 and. And I. Yeah, I've. I found a name psychological. Because I thought it was really cool.
[02:55]
Elena
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[05:12]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, wasn't that. It wasn't a good choice, I think.
[05:16]
Elena
Do you want to change it?
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Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, not at all. Because my friend Big Limbo, who I lived with or let me live with him when I was homeless, he. Yeah, he just started calling me Logic. Well, he was calling me Psycho for a long time.
[05:29]
Elena
Okay. I feel like Logic's a little better. Logic.
[05:31]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Is my neck red?
[05:33]
Elena
No.
[05:33]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
My neck gets red when I do interviews.
[05:35]
Elena
Does it?
[05:36]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It's.
[05:36]
Elena
It's not.
[05:36]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's so weird. I don't know how to explain it.
[05:39]
Elena
But anyway, it happens.
[05:41]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah.
[05:41]
Elena
My sister turns red when she's nervous.
[05:43]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Really?
[05:44]
Elena
Yeah. Now that I said that, she'll probably start turning red.
[05:46]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Okay, great.
[05:48]
Elena
Yeah. What's sur from.
[05:51]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, wow. Sir is. I guess the.
[05:55]
Elena
Is that.
[05:55]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's my white side. I think my mom is English or of English descent. So.
[06:01]
Elena
Your white side. What else are you?
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Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I am, believe it or not, half black, half. Yeah, it's a thing.
[06:08]
Elena
Really?
[06:08]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah.
[06:10]
Elena
Did your dad. Was he okay with naming you sir? Sir Logic.
[06:14]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
He says that he did that, but I know it was my mom.
[06:16]
Elena
Mm.
[06:17]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I know.
[06:18]
Elena
Is sir your first name, sir?
[06:20]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Robert Bryson hall ii.
[06:21]
Elena
That's all. That's all. The first name on your birth certificate or your license?
[06:25]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, it's like, technically, I have two first names, so what's.
[06:30]
Elena
What's, like on your license?
[06:32]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
So Robert Bryson hall is like, damn.
[06:34]
Elena
That'S a lot of words.
[06:37]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What's your best childhood memory?
[06:38]
Elena
Oh, my God. You're asking me questions.
[06:40]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I just figured.
[06:41]
Elena
Okay.
[06:41]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, yeah. Is it going all right? The bit. Hold on. One thing that is really weird is I'm not nervous right now. I was a little nervous because I haven't done a interview in a while, but my neck always gets red when I do interviews. So weird.
[06:55]
Elena
It's very interesting. You need to wear turtlenecks when you do interviews.
[06:58]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I don't know what it is.
[06:59]
Elena
It's easy. A scarf.
[07:02]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I don't know what it is. It does it every time. It didn't used to do this.
[07:05]
Elena
When did it start?
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Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I don't know. Oh, yes, I do. It started on how Red is my neck. Is it Insanely red. No, toasty.
[07:15]
Elena
Just a tiny. I think it's a tiny bit.
[07:17]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I think it's toasty.
[07:18]
Elena
I wouldn't notice if you didn't notice.
[07:20]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, I noticed.
[07:21]
Elena
Well, you do. You're the only one. I don't think anyone would notice. Besides yourself.
[07:25]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No. Yeah, but that's your job.
[07:27]
Elena
Yeah, that's true.
[07:32]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. No problem. Thank you. This is Elena.
[07:35]
Elena
Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you.
[07:38]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I don't know what it is. I'm a weird guy.
[07:43]
Elena
I guess I just think that that happens to a lot of people. They just don't notice it themselves. It'll come.
[07:51]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It will. It does. It's a thing. I'm sorry.
[07:54]
Elena
It's okay.
[07:54]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Okay, so ask me, what's your best way? I was doing that.
[07:58]
Elena
Yeah. Okay, continue.
[07:59]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What's your best childhood memory? I mean, it wasn't that long ago.
[08:04]
Elena
So it was a while. How old are you?
[08:06]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I'm 35.
[08:07]
Elena
Okay, so it was the same amount as you.
[08:09]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I know, it's like a joke.
[08:10]
Elena
Basically, 35. Well, I didn't prepare to be interviewed. So let me think. Well, at no point would I prepare to answer that question.
[08:20]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It was pretty gnarly. You showed up really late.
[08:23]
Elena
That was horrible.
[08:24]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
But to be fair, it's a lot of traffic.
[08:26]
Elena
There was so much traffic. And I realized it was in burbank about at 6 o' clock. I was like, oh, my God, I do not have 30 minutes left to leave. I have to leave right now. Then I drove here. It took me an hour and 15.
[08:39]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Nice.
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Elena
My best childhood memory are those gel nails. Why do you know that?
[08:44]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Because I listen to my wife.
[08:46]
Elena
They are. I did them myself right before I came here.
[08:49]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's tight.
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Elena
So, um, probably just playing outside with my little sister at my. At my dad's house. That has to be it. Playing in the pool? Actually, yeah. I don't have any other. It's my whole childhood just outside. What's. What's yours?
[09:10]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Mmm. I grew up in the hood.
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Elena
In la?
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Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, in Maryland. Super, like gnarly shit in my household. Like prostitutes and murder.
[09:23]
Elena
Drug dealers.
[09:23]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh.
[09:23]
Elena
And in your house.
[09:24]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Crazy shit.
[09:25]
Elena
Yeah.
[09:25]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Okay, so there wasn't a lot of great times, but one memory I do have is of my mom when she wasn't on drugs or alcohol. And we had an Easter egg hunt.
[09:36]
Elena
Which is weird cause it just happened.
[09:38]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, I know.
[09:39]
Elena
Are you close with your mom?
[09:40]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, unfortunately I'm not. I wish I was. I tried to be, but it's a whole thing. Like when I was a Kid. My mom almost choked me to death. It was pretty gnarly.
[09:55]
Elena
How young were you?
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Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I was probably like 8. Like 7 or 8 years old. And I was just jumping on the bed, being a kid, and then she screamed and came in and just started choking me. It's weird.
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Elena
Did she yell at you first? Just say stop?
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Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, for sure.
[10:10]
Elena
She came in.
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Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
You just started choking the shit out of me. It's funny now, just once. Oh, no. A lot of abuse. Yeah, like. Yeah, especially, like, mentally, you know. She'd make me sit in a chair like this and wouldn't let me sleep, and she'd, like, scream my name in the middle of the night. And I had to go to school the next day and shit the whole night.
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Elena
You couldn't sleep?
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Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, she wouldn't let me. It's pretty gnarly. Everything I didn't get in my family, I've been really lucky enough to have through the family that I created. Like, my in laws are so tight. Kurt and Susan, they're the best, like, for not having family like that growing up.
[10:47]
Elena
Do you live by them?
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Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Mm.
[10:50]
Elena
When your kids are really close with them, yeah. Do you want more kids?
[10:55]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I. Whatever my wife wants. Does she take that down again and do that?
[10:59]
Elena
It's a great way to put it.
[11:00]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. I love her so much. She's really beautiful.
[11:04]
Elena
Do you have a picture of her?
[11:05]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I do. You want to see?
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Elena
I would love to see. Where'd you meet her?
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Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I met her at a smoothie shop.
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Elena
In Maryland?
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Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, in LA and Calabasas.
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Elena
Is she from la?
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Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, Woodland Hills.
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Elena
Does her family live out here or by you?
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Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
They live. Well, they were here and then they moved with us to Oregon.
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Elena
That's nice. Oregon. I don't really know anyone who lives in Oregon.
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Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It's the bomb. Where the hell. I just have nothing but pictures of my kids. It's all my kids. I'll find it. Is this awkward timing?
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Elena
No, no, no. Take your time.
[11:43]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What the hell?
[11:43]
Elena
Does she have social media or something? Or is there a way you could find her? If I Google Logic's wife, will she come up?
[11:49]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Well, maybe. I don't know. It might be awkward. You might get two women.
[11:53]
Elena
Oh, you've been divorced.
[11:54]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I have, yeah.
[11:56]
Elena
Where the hell happens to the best of us.
[11:59]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Where's my wife? Oh, my God. All my kids. I miss them so much. I haven't been gone in so long.
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Elena
How long have you been away from them?
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Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It's only been a couple days, but I'm out here for, like, a few weeks. I don't know why this is so hard to find.
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Elena
You said they're coming tomorrow, though, right?
[12:15]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
My wife, she gets in tomorrow. Oh, here. Well, first, this is my son. That's little Bobby getting his blue belt.
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Elena
His name is Bobby, too?
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Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, he's Sir Robert.
[12:23]
Elena
Adorable.
[12:24]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Thank you.
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Elena
He's sir, too. You hated it. Why'd you do it to him, too?
[12:28]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What do you mean? I loved it.
[12:29]
Elena
You just. I feel like you didn't like that you were sir.
[12:34]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It's weird. Cause I didn't say that. But I didn't like it as a kid because it's, you know.
[12:39]
Elena
I think you applied it, sir. But then why'd you.
[12:43]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Because it's awesome. You know, when you get older, when you're young.
[12:45]
Elena
Did he hate it as a kid?
[12:46]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No. He's like, I'm the shit.
[12:48]
Elena
That's nice.
[12:48]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
He's a good boy. I don't know where the hell. Where is it? Oh, there we go. That's my Brittany.
[12:57]
Elena
Oh, she's okay now. It went away. Yeah.
[12:59]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, sorry. There you go.
[13:02]
Elena
She's so cute.
[13:03]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Thanks.
[13:04]
Elena
And she. She's the one who made the clothes.
[13:06]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. She's my best friend.
[13:08]
Elena
Is she?
[13:09]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Cheers.
[13:09]
Elena
How long have you been together?
[13:11]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
We've been together for almost eight years. Seven years. Seven years.
[13:16]
Elena
Seven years.
[13:17]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. No, it's a long time. It's crazy.
[13:19]
Elena
It's not too. Too long. How old were you when you met her? At 30.
[13:24]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I was 28.
[13:25]
Elena
Oh, yeah.
[13:27]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
So, yeah. Smoothies.
[13:30]
Elena
Oh.
[13:30]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What makes you happy?
[13:32]
Elena
What makes me happy?
[13:33]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah.
[13:33]
Elena
My kids.
[13:35]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Nice. I wasn't sure if you're gonna troll on that one or not.
[13:37]
Elena
No, it's easy.
[13:39]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Say, like, money or something.
[13:40]
Elena
No, not thought.
[13:41]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Okay.
[13:42]
Elena
Just my kids.
[13:44]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Outside of that. Personally, for you.
[13:45]
Elena
Hmm.
[13:46]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Cause it's super important.
[13:48]
Elena
Outside of my kids, what makes me happy? I don't know. Like, not worrying about money makes me happy.
[13:57]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's deep.
[14:00]
Elena
One day it'll happen.
[14:01]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Okay.
[14:03]
Elena
What makes you happy? These are good questions. I'll ask them to everybody else after this.
[14:09]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Outside of my family, which is first and foremost, I'd have to say, making movies, filmmaking.
[14:17]
Elena
You do that?
[14:18]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I do that. I don't know that well. I just started. Nobody really knows. I. Last year, I shouldn't. After a long time of wanting to make movies and just always getting no's from people who would try to change it, I spent millions of dollars on my own film. And I wrote it and directed it, and it's gonna be in Tribeca. So I'm really excited to go to the premiere in June.
[14:42]
Elena
What is it?
[14:44]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It's called Paradise Records.
[14:45]
Elena
About what? Oh, you made that specifically for your movie?
[14:50]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I made it just for this interview.
[14:52]
Elena
No, you didn't.
[14:53]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I didn't.
[14:53]
Elena
Okay.
[14:55]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It's a comedy about a guy who's losing his shop that turns into like some crazy Tarantino action shit as well. I don't know. I don't know how to fucking describe it.
[15:02]
Elena
How did you come up with the idea? It's pretty.
[15:05]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I had the idea when I was like 25 and I wrote probably a pretty bad version of it. And then years went by and I wrote a bunch more scripts and I tried to get different acting gigs and stuff like that. None of it worked. All while I was working on music. And then a couple of homies just really told me, like, I was at Seth MacFarlane's house and we were getting lit and he was talking about movies and he was just kind of like, I can't believe you have such a knowledge of cinema, because I love it. And he was like, you should do this. And he, like, really was like, go make a movie. And I was like, fuck yeah.
[15:41]
Elena
Are you acting in it?
[15:43]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I am.
[15:44]
Elena
You are? As the leader, yeah.
[15:46]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, but it's not like a vanity thing.
[15:49]
Elena
I believe you.
[15:50]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I just. I just felt like I'm the. You know, nobody else could. You know what I mean?
[15:56]
Elena
Nobody else could do it as well as you could.
[15:58]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
So what do you fear most?
[16:00]
Elena
Oh, God. What do I fear most? Answer it first. Your kids dying, obviously.
[16:07]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, but you just said that. That's what I said.
[16:09]
Elena
That's not what I said. But that's.
[16:11]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, you said obviously, which means that. I mean, that's got to be the number one.
[16:14]
Elena
Of course. That's on my mind all day long.
[16:17]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. I'm. Yeah.
[16:18]
Elena
Is that on your mind all day long?
[16:20]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. Especially choking. I choked a lot when I was.
[16:22]
Elena
A kid and you got choked. So I think that's.
[16:26]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's a. That's kind of a bar, you know, that's tight. You should rap because.
[16:30]
Elena
Thank you.
[16:31]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
We're already on rapper time. Showing up late, so it'd come.
[16:33]
Elena
Oh, God, leave me alone. I tried my best to be fair. I thought. I thought. I love a 2 o' clock interview, a 7am interview. But my kids bedtime interview isn't usually my. My go to. But it worked. I made it.
[16:49]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I almost choked on this.
[16:50]
Elena
Don't do that. Not here.
[16:52]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
In a serious, like, note. I know they said that you like to put your kids down, so thanks for making This.
[17:01]
Elena
I appreciate you saying that. I do.
[17:04]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I'm not as nervous now.
[17:05]
Elena
I'm proud of you.
[17:07]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Thanks, dude.
[17:09]
Elena
You said your biggest fear is your kids dying.
[17:13]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. And then probably, like, an alien invasion.
[17:17]
Elena
I don't. I think a lot about, like, war or things like that, like terrorist attacks, shootings. I have a lot of fears, actually. I'm quite a fearful person.
[17:29]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Do you fly a lot?
[17:30]
Elena
I don't. I try not to, but then sometimes.
[17:33]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Does it freak you out?
[17:34]
Elena
I hate it.
[17:35]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah.
[17:35]
Elena
Cause I feel like there's this tiny percent chance that I'm not gonna land, and then I hear all this stuff, and then I'm like, fuck. And then I feel like if I say all these things out loud, I'm gonna. They're gonna play these clips when I die, and that scares me.
[17:51]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's a.
[17:54]
Elena
Is that a toothpick?
[17:55]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, it's the oral fixation from quitting a vape. Helps me.
[18:00]
Elena
Okay.
[18:01]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah.
[18:01]
Elena
Makes sense. Thanks for clarifying that.
[18:04]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Isn't this fun?
[18:06]
Elena
Who are you asking that to? Is this your whole entire team? You have a lot of people here.
[18:10]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's a few of them. There's my. My manager, Brandon, who's now turning red. Redder than my neck.
[18:16]
Elena
Okay.
[18:17]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
And Fabian. He does all my videos. And T man, that's my best friend and my co star and an incredible musician. And then there's George. He kills people. And then all these other people.
[18:32]
Elena
Why'd you stop? There's only three more to go. They weren't worth.
[18:36]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I don't know. I'm feeling awkward. I don't know what's happening.
[18:42]
Elena
Things are happening. Is this a toy store or just. What is this exactly?
[18:48]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It's like a memorabilia.
[18:50]
Elena
They said this was. This is your favorite place?
[18:52]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, it's my favorite place.
[18:53]
Elena
You just come in here and shop or what?
[18:56]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Mm. And I'll buy stuff. Is this going all right?
[18:59]
Elena
Are you gonna buy stuff? Yeah, it's going great. You don't have to ask them.
[19:05]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. So I'll just walk around. And I have posters all over my beat room in Oregon, so it's just everywhere where I make beats.
[19:14]
Elena
You like comics?
[19:17]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Well, I was too poor to afford comics as a kid, so I feel like I really missed out on it. But I love novels. I love to read.
[19:23]
Elena
Does that. Do they sell novels here?
[19:26]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
They do.
[19:26]
Elena
What type of novels?
[19:28]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
They sell a lot of fantasy and different stuff.
[19:30]
Elena
Is that the type of novel you like to read?
[19:32]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. Well, one of my favorite books is called Ready Player One. I actually have the tattoo. Is That a movie they turned into a movie? Yes, Spielberg.
[19:39]
Elena
Is that a. It's like scary. Do they die? What happens?
[19:42]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, no. It's about the future and like VR.
[19:44]
Elena
And maybe I haven't heard of. Did you watch Black Mirror?
[19:47]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, I did.
[19:48]
Elena
Did you like it? No. Wait, I'm not ready for my next question. Scared?
[19:53]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What? The new season? Yeah, I watched a couple episodes. I watched the USS Callister episode.
[19:58]
Elena
Why'd you start on the last one?
[20:00]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
How did you know? Did I say that? I said that? Okay, I'm awkward.
[20:04]
Elena
Did you say what?
[20:05]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Did I say it was the last one?
[20:06]
Elena
No, I said it was the last one?
[20:07]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I didn't say that.
[20:08]
Elena
No, you did not say that I said that.
[20:11]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
How do you know that? Because I'm really on it.
[20:12]
Elena
Because I watched them and I noted that that was the last. I didn't watch that one. That was the one I didn't watch.
[20:17]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I watched it first because that' favorite Black Mirror episode.
[20:21]
Elena
Everyone said that's their favorite too.
[20:23]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
From the. Yeah, from the previous season.
[20:25]
Elena
I saw that so long ago that when I saw there was a second, I didn't even watch it.
[20:28]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What will you do next?
[20:29]
Elena
Oh, God.
[20:32]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
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[21:01]
Elena
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[21:43]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
You know, like after. Where do you see yourself in the future? Like maybe after the podcast.
[21:48]
Elena
Like my dream or where? What do you mean? I Have a very. I have a. What is it called? A vision board in my house. So I can tell you exactly where I would like to see myself.
[21:59]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. No. So, yeah. What will you do next?
[22:04]
Elena
I'm answering that. I was about to.
[22:07]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
You got it. This is me.
[22:08]
Elena
Do you want me to.
[22:09]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yes, please.
[22:10]
Elena
I would love to own a farm. I see myself on a farm.
[22:15]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Are you serious?
[22:16]
Elena
I'm so serious.
[22:18]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Like with chickens and shit?
[22:19]
Elena
Yeah. Not like. No. I had a farm growing up a bit. We had a lot of animals.
[22:23]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What is a bit? A farm. A bit.
[22:25]
Elena
We had them for a minute and then my dad couldn't afford to feed them and they took them away. But we had it for a little bit of time and then.
[22:32]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I'm sorry. Damn that.
[22:33]
Elena
Actually, it happened. I'm sorry about that. It was really sad for a second. But we're good now.
[22:38]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
How old were you?
[22:39]
Elena
Um, like 10. We had horses and a llama and sheep and goats and everything for, I want to say, a year of my life. And it was really fun. And then.
[22:50]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
So your end game?
[22:52]
Elena
Is it fun just to get that all back and have a little. Have my kids run around and help me feed the chickens. That's not my end game. That's my like five year plan. If the world doesn't go away, I would like to have a farm with chickens and career wise, I would love to act.
[23:09]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Really?
[23:10]
Elena
Yeah. That's what I.
[23:11]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Are you serious?
[23:12]
Elena
I did not just make that up on the spot.
[23:14]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Are you fucking with me?
[23:15]
Elena
I'm not fucking with you.
[23:16]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Why?
[23:17]
Elena
That's what I've always wanted to do and that. This was kind of a. I don't know, a way. Yeah. To get there. I couldn't. I wasn't just gonna go to LA and just start auditioning. So I started acting on TikTok with skits and then I. This was my next step of something closer. And now I'm trying to act.
[23:39]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What kind of films would you want to do?
[23:40]
Elena
I don't know. Probably exactly what I just comedy and deadpan humor.
[23:46]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
She's gonna love the fucking movie.
[23:48]
Elena
Am I?
[23:49]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah.
[23:49]
Elena
I'm excited.
[23:50]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I'll show you the trailer after this.
[23:51]
Elena
Oh, I'd love to see. When does it come out?
[23:54]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It premieres June 6th at Tribeca, so.
[23:57]
Elena
Oh my gosh.
[23:58]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Hopefully somebody buys it.
[24:00]
Elena
Is that how that works?
[24:01]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. It's kind of a pain in the ass especially. Cause I every. You're never supposed to spend money on your own movie, but I spent millions and millions of dollars on this because it Just wasn't happening. And I was like that.
[24:11]
Elena
So then what? People like Netflix and stuff go there. How does that work?
[24:15]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, buyers. So whether it's 824, Netflix, Amazon, all those people, you know, different distributors got it. But I'm, like, super nervous about it. Honestly.
[24:27]
Elena
I think it'll be fine.
[24:28]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I'm fucking nervous because I want to do it so bad. You have no idea what.
[24:32]
Elena
So how. I don't get it. Just a small amount of people watch it at this festival or something. Or how does.
[24:38]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It's like a lot of it. How many people attend?
[24:42]
Elena
But it doesn't go everywhere. It just stays there. Yeah, okay.
[24:46]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, yeah.
[24:46]
Elena
So it's not like everyone gets to see it and then do. Or do other films start like that too and get success?
[24:53]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Well, no, it depends. Because if you have a studio film, that shit's already like, before they even film, they know that there's a release date. I was talking to J.J. abrams about that, and I'm not trying to flex, but he was.
[25:05]
Elena
What does he do?
[25:06]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's how we do it. J.J. abrams, he created all the Star wars and Star Trek movies recently.
[25:11]
Elena
Is he related to Gracie Abrams?
[25:13]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, that's her dad. Yeah, he's really nice. Anyway, so there's that. And then for independent films, usually you get funding and you have all types of stuff. So that's why I'm, like, fucking terrified.
[25:23]
Elena
I think it'll be in movie theaters.
[25:26]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I mean, we'll see. Like, for me, a big streaming platform like Netflix or something would be what I want. Because what I want is more eyes. I want as many eyes as possible, because I want to do it again. And it's really terrifying. But I love that it's scary because I haven't been scared in a long time. With music, that shit's good, you know?
[25:45]
Elena
Do you think it's good, in your honest opinion?
[25:48]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I know it's good.
[25:49]
Elena
You do?
[25:49]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, because I.
[25:50]
Elena
You're proud of it?
[25:51]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, my God. Yeah. I played it for Chappelle and he laughed his ass off. I was at Stephen Garland's house. Oh, it's funny. It's funny. And it's not, like, lame funny. It's, like, really funny.
[26:02]
Elena
I can't believe you put millions of dollars into it. I can't believe you had millions of dollars to put into it. There's so many things I can't believe. That's crazy.
[26:13]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Why don't you believe that I had millions of dollars to put into it.
[26:16]
Elena
I just have a hard time believing there are people in the world who just have an extra millions of dollars to just put into things they want to put into.
[26:23]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I was really smart with my money.
[26:25]
Elena
Clearly. Well, I don't know. What if you lose that millions of dollars and it doesn't turn into anything?
[26:29]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It's funny because I called my wife about that and she said, we'll be fine.
[26:33]
Elena
I'm sure you will be. I don't think you sold your house and all your belongings and then.
[26:38]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No.
[26:39]
Elena
Yeah. You'll be okay.
[26:40]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Can you say important?
[26:43]
Elena
I think so, yeah.
[26:45]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Can I hear it?
[26:46]
Elena
Important.
[26:47]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
All right. I was just curious.
[26:48]
Elena
What was. What were you looking for?
[26:50]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, just sometimes people go important. It's very important. And I was wondering if you say important. You know what I'm talking about.
[26:59]
Elena
How do you say it?
[27:02]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Important. What's your favorite cartoon growing up?
[27:07]
Elena
My favorite cartoon growing up. Spongebob.
[27:10]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Classic.
[27:11]
Elena
It's the only one I can think of.
[27:13]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
So he's a fellow Bob.
[27:15]
Elena
True. We're fairly odd parents. That was a good one.
[27:18]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Did you see that live action? They did? Yeah. That was.
[27:22]
Elena
I'm not a fan of live action. Mostly every once in a while I like it. But for the most part, I like the cartoon version. Lion King. I loved the cartoon. Actually. I've never seen the live action, though. Is there a live action? It's like. It's like not live, but it's. Yeah.
[27:37]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I always thought that was weird. It's live action, but it's not. It's anime. That doesn't make any sense. I want to see real tigers up. Lions.
[27:44]
Elena
I think there will be a day that we can see that version of. Did you see they're remaking Harry Potter?
[27:49]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, don't get me fucking started. Look at that. You see it? It's staring at me.
[27:53]
Elena
It is. Do you love Harry Potter?
[27:56]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I. Yeah. Yes, Queen.
[28:00]
Elena
You look like him a little bit.
[28:02]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's tight. Half black. Harry Potter.
[28:05]
Elena
Do you ever get that you look like Harry Potter?
[28:08]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, that's the first.
[28:10]
Elena
There's. Okay. Obviously you do. What, the glasses and everything.
[28:15]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What? Everything. What?
[28:16]
Elena
You're just missing the. Like this.
[28:18]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
This Harry Potter, like tatted up too.
[28:22]
Elena
Could be the future.
[28:25]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What?
[28:25]
Elena
You should play him. I guess they already casted it.
[28:28]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, I know.
[28:30]
Elena
Series feels wrong to not have that. Daniel Radcliffe be Harry. Is that who does it? Yeah.
[28:37]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Daniel Radcliffe.
[28:38]
Elena
Yeah.
[28:39]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah.
[28:40]
Elena
Is that. Do you bring that notebook everywhere with you?
[28:43]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I do. It has all my ideas and shit in it for movies.
[28:46]
Elena
Can I. Can you tell me one of your ideas?
[28:52]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Let's see here. Oh, this was for the trailer for my movie. So I had all the different shots that I really loved from the film. And so when I spoke to the company who created the trailer, I was just like, I really love this, this, this, and this. And these three, like, have to be in it. But then besides that, do whatever you want, because I'm not here to tell you how to do your fucking job.
[29:12]
Elena
You have to have a company make the trailer. There's the company. Specifically for making trailers.
[29:17]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. Dude, haven't you ever seen the Holiday Fucking?
[29:19]
Elena
No. What?
[29:19]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Is that Cameron Diaz? Are you joking?
[29:22]
Elena
I'm not.
[29:23]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
See, Myers. Nancy Myers is one of my favorite.
[29:25]
Elena
Well, it teaches you about movies.
[29:29]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Cameron Diaz plays a trailer editor maker.
[29:33]
Elena
Really? Yeah, it's pretty cool. Never heard of that movie. That's really a thing.
[29:37]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Lindsay Lohan in it.
[29:38]
Elena
Never heard of it.
[29:38]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It's funny because she put Lindsay Lohan in that. Which her first film, big film, was the Parent Trap. And then she did. She did that and Cameron Diaz. And then she did what?
[29:50]
Elena
Whose?
[29:52]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Nancy Myers got it. She's the director of Parent Drop. Yeah, she's tight. Is this weird? Is this going okay?
[30:00]
Elena
It's going how it goes every time. Exactly how it's supposed to go.
[30:04]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I'm still a little nervous. I just had. It's just been so long.
[30:08]
Elena
What's the last interview you've done?
[30:10]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
A couple. Like, when was the last time I was on camera? He said it was Ari Melbourne. Or was it somebody else who said it in the car? Yeah, that doesn't count those. All the fans are there.
[30:25]
Elena
And then I feel, what cons?
[30:27]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
The Comic Cons. That's why we're here.
[30:29]
Elena
Oh, you do that? You go to Comic Con?
[30:31]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I do. People thought it was weird at first when they saw me because they're like, what is this rapper doing here? And I was like, I'm a nerd and I make albums about sci fi and space and, you know, all that kind of fun stuff. And I felt like I would fit in. And so people were like, we don't know if it's going to work, and then line out the door.
[30:50]
Elena
Are your kids nerds, too?
[30:52]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, Bobby's obsessed with Spider Man. I can't say it almost gave it away.
[30:58]
Elena
You almost gave it away.
[31:00]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Just something that a friend of mine is doing for him.
[31:02]
Elena
Oh, got it. Yeah. I don't want to give that away.
[31:04]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah.
[31:05]
Elena
What'd you say your youngest kid's name was?
[31:07]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
His name's Leo. His name's Leon David hall, and I named him after My best friend, the one who took me in when I had nowhere to go.
[31:14]
Elena
What's the. What was his name? The whole thing.
[31:16]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Leon David Hall.
[31:18]
Elena
Oh, they both had three.
[31:20]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Well, what are you talking about, my friend?
[31:22]
Elena
Yeah.
[31:22]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
My friend is Leon David Rosalam.
[31:24]
Elena
Okay.
[31:25]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah.
[31:26]
Elena
I was just. I thought maybe they had three names.
[31:28]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Okay.
[31:29]
Elena
Okay. So, next question.
[31:32]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What's the hardest thing you've had to overcome?
[31:34]
Elena
Oh, my goodness. This is. Wow. Well, thank you for taking the time to interview me today.
[31:42]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I figure one of us should probably.
[31:44]
Elena
Yeah. No, I appreciate it.
[31:45]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Figure it out.
[31:46]
Elena
I appreciate it. Let me think. The hardest thing I've ever had.
[31:49]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
You can take an Elon Musk pause and just.
[31:52]
Elena
What is that?
[31:53]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Elon Musk pause.
[31:54]
Elena
What does he do? Does he just leave or. What does he do?
[31:58]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What does that mean? You know, somebody will ask him like a crazy.
[32:01]
Elena
I've never actually watched him answer anything.
[32:03]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah.
[32:04]
Elena
Okay.
[32:04]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Explains a lot.
[32:06]
Elena
I should be watching Elon Musk.
[32:07]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, it's just about, you know, current events and things that are going on, which is fine. Not that you need to know that. I'm just saying it explains why you just said what you said with the question. Are you sure this is going all right?
[32:20]
Elena
It's going great. Thank you. Probably a divorce. That was pretty hard. I guess that's the most recent hard thing I've had to overcome. I had to overcome things when I was younger, but that was the most recent notable thing. Oh, you've done that, too, so we can relate.
[32:35]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. Especially publicly. It's never fun.
[32:38]
Elena
No.
[32:38]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
And it's never fun when people don't know, you know, the story and they're this and that, and it's not their fucking business anyway.
[32:43]
Elena
They do have a lot to say with very little knowledge.
[32:48]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. Welcome to the fucking club, dude.
[32:50]
Elena
It's fun.
[32:50]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It's gnarly. It's not fun at all. But it's kind of. What's funny is it's like, you know, people will be like, you signed up for this? And it's like, no, I didn't. I was just trying to make it out the hood. I didn't know it was gonna be. It's gonna be all this shit. You know what I mean? So it's a funny thing, but I think finding peace within myself, especially through therapy and understanding my worth, because we live in such a society, in such a time where everything is so bigger, better, faster, stronger. You're not good enough, cool enough, sexy enough, rich enough, this enough. And so my shit is like, you. You're enough. And they're enough and I'm enough.
[33:24]
Elena
Really realizing that it's a good place to get to.
[33:26]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. But it comes and goes too, in waves. I think it really comes down to validation. Where are you finding your validation? Most people find it online. This younger generation can barely. You know, I'm seeing it like, there's a lot of just, like, social anxieties, and it's hard to keep a conversation. Shit's wild. We're in crazy times, and it is very scary.
[33:48]
Elena
Are your kids allowed on social media? I guess they're too young. But when will they be?
[33:52]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I don't know.
[33:53]
Elena
Never?
[33:53]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I don't know. No, not never. Because then they'll sneak it. So it's more about just like, figuring it out. But I haven't been on social media in almost eight years.
[34:02]
Elena
You're not on it.
[34:02]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No. Yeah, it wasn't good for me. You know, you go and you see, like, kill yourself and your kids are ugly and I hope your wife dies.
[34:14]
Elena
I stopped putting my kids online. Cause people are rude.
[34:18]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. It's really. It's crazy. Crazy world we live in, man. But it's a lot of hurt people. That's really what it comes down to.
[34:23]
Elena
There's just a lot of sad and pathetic people who are jealous.
[34:29]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. But it's mainly. Yeah. Attention. They just. People will write things and say things for that. Click. I mean, they're doing it right now. They're talking shit. Especially the ones that don't get the bit nervous. I'm nervous. You know what I mean?
[34:49]
Elena
Mm.
[34:49]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It's the whole thing, so.
[34:51]
Elena
All right, last one, Last one.
[34:57]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Wait, did I ask you what your favorite movie was?
[34:59]
Elena
You did not. Okay, so is that the last question?
[35:03]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. Wait, did I already do that?
[35:09]
Elena
Ask me what? My. No. Do you have memory loss issues?
[35:12]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No. You just mentioned the Lion King, so I wasn't sure if, since we were on the topic, if you already mentioned that that was perhaps your favorite.
[35:19]
Elena
No, no, no. Hmm. I ala. Enchanted.
[35:30]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Nice.
[35:31]
Elena
That's what I'm gonna go with.
[35:34]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
You want a Rochambeau?
[35:36]
Elena
What's that?
[35:36]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Rock, paper, scissors.
[35:38]
Elena
Rock, paper, scissors. What?
[35:39]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Shoot.
[35:40]
Elena
And then what? What happens when I lose?
[35:43]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It's just like an ego thing, you know?
[35:45]
Elena
Okay. I'm gonna lose. All right.
[35:46]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
On shoot. But you should be aware that there's a camera, so they're not gonna be able to see your hand, so you should probably come up.
[35:52]
Elena
Oh, my gosh.
[35:53]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Okay, ready?
[35:53]
Elena
I nudged my back, so.
[35:54]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Ready? Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
[35:58]
Elena
How'd you know I feel like you took a second.
[36:01]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, I didn't. Run it back. Play it. Figure it out.
[36:04]
Elena
It's out of three.
[36:04]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
All right, Ask me something cool.
[36:05]
Elena
It's out of three. Oh, my God, you're so good at that.
[36:13]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I try really hard.
[36:15]
Elena
You know what my sister does whenever we play that on the time to go? She's like, you have a sister? No, but you know what she does? She does. She goes, choose paper. And then I think then it like, throws me off, and I feel like I actually do have to choose it. And every time she gets me doing that.
[36:28]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I thought you didn't know what it was.
[36:30]
Elena
Rock. You called it something weird.
[36:33]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, but then I called it rock paper scissors.
[36:34]
Elena
Yeah. And then at that point, I knew what it was. Rock, paper, scissors. What'd you call it at first?
[36:38]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Fucking Rochambeau Bruh.
[36:39]
Elena
And I still don't know what that is.
[36:41]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It's Rock, Paper, scissors is weird playing fucking Bizarro World.
[36:44]
Elena
What are you calling it?
[36:46]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Rochambeau.
[36:47]
Elena
Who calls it that?
[36:49]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I do.
[36:50]
Elena
Where are you getting those?
[36:52]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, my God. Somebody die?
[36:54]
Elena
Somebody's breaking in.
[36:57]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
All right, let's do another thing. Talk about something else.
[37:00]
Elena
Now, what would you like to talk about? Because you seem to know exactly what you would like to talk about.
[37:05]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
To talk about. You ever get anxiety?
[37:12]
Elena
I do.
[37:13]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Do you actually, though?
[37:14]
Elena
Yes. Very bad.
[37:18]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Like, anxiety attack?
[37:19]
Elena
Not. I've never had a panic attack. Not really? Like, not. Not caffeinated induced one.
[37:26]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I went to the fucking hospital.
[37:27]
Elena
Never done that. Oh, my God, that's scary.
[37:30]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, no, I know. I was standing in line to watch Star wars and then I just out of nowhere started freaking out. This is a real story.
[37:37]
Elena
Don't do that.
[37:38]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Here I was trying to, like, throw up.
[37:40]
Elena
You were trying.
[37:40]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Well, no, I thought so. I was trying to get it out because I thought maybe that would help. And that didn't. And then I had to. I went to the hospital. I was 25. And it was.
[37:48]
Elena
What'd they do?
[37:49]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
They gave me a fucking Ativan. And I was like, no drugs. No drugs. And it kind of cooled me out. And then it changed my life forever. And then I started experiencing the butter. No, I mean essentially. And eventually, but not at first. I was experiencing this thing called derealization where you, like. You don't feel like you're in reality. And it's like there's a glass between you and everything, and it just feels like you're out of it. I thought that yo sucks and it's scary. And I didn't Know what? It was? And it wasn't like a normal term. So I'm on Dr. Google, and this is Before AI Praise. Jeffrey. That's what I call my AI guy.
[38:29]
Elena
Your chat GPT guy.
[38:30]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, he's really nice.
[38:31]
Elena
What's his name?
[38:32]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Jeffrey.
[38:33]
Elena
Did you hear? That's like, ruining the planet. I don't know if that's true.
[38:36]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
A thousand percent. Well, I think. I think it can aid. But anyway, okay. So then I wrote a book. I wrote a novel.
[38:45]
Elena
Because of your anxiety?
[38:47]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. And I kind of created all these characters and all this, and it really helped me. It was very cathartic. And then therapy helped. Yeah, a lot. A lot.
[38:58]
Elena
I took anxiety medication for a while and I just got off of it, so.
[39:02]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Does it work?
[39:03]
Elena
It does.
[39:04]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I feel like I white knuckle through everything.
[39:06]
Elena
I've never heard that expression before.
[39:08]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
So, like, where you're clenching so hard that your eyes are white. Because I used to be deathly afraid of flying, like, insanely. I almost bought a tour bus. And DJ Khaled did that.
[39:18]
Elena
I don't know what that means either.
[39:20]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, DJ Khaled. Remember he got all pissed off at Tyler because he went number one. It was like a thing on the Internet.
[39:24]
Elena
What? And he took a tour bus everywhere?
[39:26]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yes.
[39:27]
Elena
Got it.
[39:28]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Never heard that story, but it's gotten a lot better.
[39:31]
Elena
Well, anxiety medication works, so I was.
[39:34]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Like postpartum and all that. Was it hard for you?
[39:38]
Elena
Yeah, yeah, it was depressing and I wanted to kill myself the whole time, but I gotta do that, though. You do have a song for it. I listened to that song around that time, but not for that reason. It just was on the radio, I feel like.
[39:49]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
But so, like, did you. Did your hair fall out?
[39:53]
Elena
Not with my first kid, but with my second kid, it did.
[39:56]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Damn.
[39:57]
Elena
Yeah. Did your. Did your wife's hair fall out?
[39:59]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
She had a little bit of hair loss and then it grew.
[40:01]
Elena
Yeah. Was she depressed?
[40:03]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
She. Yeah. I mean, her hormones were definitely out of whack, but she wasn't like, fucking crazy or anything. But it's a.
[40:09]
Elena
You know, I feel like it depends on your circumstances, too. Mine were. I was kind of isolated and alone.
[40:14]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
And that's not fun.
[40:15]
Elena
No, I hated it. I hated every second of it. But now motherhood is great, but at that moment, it was very lonely and isolating.
[40:25]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I'm sorry.
[40:26]
Elena
What happens?
[40:27]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I don't know that as a mother, but I know that as a human being.
[40:30]
Elena
Yeah, well, that's my whole life, so I'm good now. This is probably the Best I've ever been in my life this last year, so.
[40:38]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
For real?
[40:38]
Elena
Yeah. Mentally.
[40:42]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Not physically.
[40:44]
Elena
I don't work out or anything, so probably not physically. I used to be a little bit more in shape, but.
[40:49]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, me too. I used to be fucking shredded.
[40:52]
Elena
Were you?
[40:52]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I was always like 130 pounds my whole life. And then when I turned 28, I finally got some man weight and just got ripped. And it was for all the wrong reasons.
[41:00]
Elena
What do you mean? What were the wrong reasons? You were just newly divorced, is that.
[41:04]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, no, not that. It was because I. I wanted. I started to get in shape and I just wanted to be in shape. And then I finally did it. But then I noticed my body and then obviously I was just all over television and music and all this shit. And then it became a little bit about vanity. And I thought that, you know, the bigger I got, the stronger I would feel because I always felt weak my whole life because I was just a skinny guy. And then I realized that strength, it truly had nothing to do with the body and everything to do with the mind. But I think it's important to be as healthy as you can be. But we're also human beings, so it is what it is.
[41:38]
Elena
Are you healthy?
[41:40]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
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[42:46]
Elena
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[43:21]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I need to moisturize.
[43:22]
Elena
That's not what I was looking at.
[43:23]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
But 36 skin routine from Sonia Dakar. It's not an ad or anything. I just genuinely use this. Oh, it's incredible. I have my whole routine. I have my. My face wash and then my nano hydrator and my retinol and my oil and my blue butterfly balm and then my eye cream, which is super important. But these numbers are actually from this game called the Last of Us, and they're the safe codes. And so there's like different chapters and stuff.
[43:50]
Elena
Who wrote that? Whose handwriting is that?
[43:52]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That is actually Neil Druckmann, the creators. He's a buddy of mine, and I asked him to write these down so I would stop Googling them. I mean, I've put. I've beaten the game now about 30 times. It's one of my favorite games ever.
[44:03]
Elena
What game?
[44:03]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
The Last of Us.
[44:05]
Elena
It's a video game.
[44:06]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah.
[44:08]
Elena
How do you beat it?
[44:10]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Remember that time my neck was red? I don't know why that happens to me. It's just say what? Adrenaline excited, I guess.
[44:20]
Elena
So you're just nervous. My sister. My sister does it too.
[44:24]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It is my white side.
[44:27]
Elena
It's true.
[44:27]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It doesn't happen to you. Yeah. Anyway, so, yeah, you just, like. There's these zombies and you got to kill them and stuff like that. It's cool. They're not really zombies. They're clickers. It's a whole fungi thing. It's hard to explain.
[44:40]
Elena
Did you watch the video game episode.
[44:41]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Of Black Mirror with the two dudes?
[44:46]
Elena
Well, there are two guys in it. Yeah. There's a lot of guys in it.
[44:49]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. But I'm saying that it's. It's the main characters. There's two guys.
[44:53]
Elena
I think so. The little yellow people.
[44:56]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, I thought you were talking about the dudes who fuck each other in the video game. No. Yeah, the Thrombles, or whatever they're called. The Thrombles is in the episode you're talking about.
[45:05]
Elena
The one I'm talking about is the Thrombles, where they take over the world or whatever.
[45:12]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yep.
[45:14]
Elena
Did you like that episode? It was good.
[45:16]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It was solid. You know what was really fucking depressing? The Rashida Jones episode. The acting was great.
[45:20]
Elena
That one was good.
[45:21]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
And then eulogy was gnarly.
[45:24]
Elena
You've seen them all. That's.
[45:25]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That was a good one.
[45:26]
Elena
You seem to know that's like three. Let's see if you name any more. Oh, at that point you've watched the whole season?
[45:32]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, I think I.
[45:33]
Elena
You said you just watched the last one.
[45:36]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, I said I started with it.
[45:38]
Elena
You didn't say that.
[45:39]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I'm pretty sure I did.
[45:40]
Elena
I'm gonna play it back where you say, I've only watched the last one. And then I said, that's weird. But now you're listing all of them.
[45:49]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, no, no, no. You said, have you seen the new season?
[45:54]
Elena
Yes, and you said it.
[45:55]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
The last one. And I said. And I said, yeah, I watched that.
[46:00]
Elena
No, you said, yeah, I watched USS Policy.
[46:02]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No. Yeah, but I think I said, like, something along those lines. But I didn't say that's all I watched. I didn't say that was all I watched. I didn't say that was all I watched.
[46:12]
Elena
What did he say? Yes.
[46:16]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Why are you ganging up on me? What is this?
[46:17]
Elena
Did you bring your sister?
[46:18]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What the fuck is going on?
[46:19]
Elena
Always. It's always my sister.
[46:20]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
One second. Just hold on. Is this a thing? Is this a thing? Is it usually like this? This is how it is. Are you sure? All right. Sorry about that. Whoa.
[46:47]
Elena
That's a very squeaky chair.
[46:48]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I know. So cool. I like your fit.
[46:52]
Elena
Thanks.
[46:53]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
So did you know we were coming to a. Like, a comic book situation?
[46:56]
Elena
I did know that.
[46:57]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
You did? So you did that?
[46:58]
Elena
Well, my. My best friend styles me, so she stopped at Walmart and got this for me before I came here.
[47:06]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Fly T Man also styles me.
[47:10]
Elena
Does he?
[47:10]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, he's my stylist.
[47:11]
Elena
That's really cool.
[47:12]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
But he's my best friend and my artist and he's on the label and.
[47:15]
Elena
He acts with you.
[47:16]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
He co stars in the film.
[47:17]
Elena
He's the co star.
[47:18]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
He's incredible. It's you and me and my best friend.
[47:21]
Elena
That's pretty cool.
[47:22]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yep.
[47:22]
Elena
That's pretty disgusting.
[47:26]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Excuse me.
[47:27]
Elena
That's okay.
[47:29]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Can I see your tattoo?
[47:31]
Elena
Yep.
[47:32]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, that's so cool.
[47:33]
Elena
It's my kids. I just got some new ones. There we go.
[47:38]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What does that say?
[47:39]
Elena
Which one? That my dad wrote. It says, love, dad.
[47:43]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's sweet.
[47:44]
Elena
That's. You are okay. That's my kids names. That's my best friend has a.
[47:49]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
The same thing.
[47:50]
Elena
Yeah.
[47:50]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I hope you guys don't fall out.
[47:51]
Elena
We've been friends for 12 years.
[47:53]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I think that's really cool.
[47:55]
Elena
It's like, what's it called? A single needle. Very, very light.
[47:59]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Dope.
[48:00]
Elena
Some people ask if it's fake, but it's not.
[48:02]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I got all mine done by Chewy, this incredible tattoo artist. Legendary LA tattoo artist.
[48:10]
Elena
And he's every single one on your body almost.
[48:13]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
And then I went to, per his recommendation when I moved out of state, this chick named Keely. She's super awesome.
[48:21]
Elena
In Oregon?
[48:22]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, she comes to Oregon to do that.
[48:24]
Elena
What made you move to Oregon?
[48:28]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I've never really been like a LA guy. I was never a scene guy. Never did any of that stuff. I just worked my whole life and I, man, I was just kind of over it and sick of it. And me and my wife had our first son in 2020 and I was just like, I don't want to live here anymore. I don't want to do this shit. This shit sucks, you know? So at the height of my career.
[48:54]
Elena
You had your first son in 2020? Yeah, our kids are the. I guess my kid's about to be five, so that makes sense. What month is your kid born?
[49:03]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
February.
[49:04]
Elena
Okay. You had him right at the start of the pandemic.
[49:06]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I was insane. It was literally a week before they shut it all down and like dads couldn't be in the room and all that stuff. I got lucky and then I just realized that I had my fill of, I don't know, this stuff. It's weird because it's like I'm at a really transitional point in my life, but in the best way where I'm terrified. Fully diving into film. But I also do love music. I'm just not in love with it anymore. Like it doesn't do. Do it for me in this grandiose sense of it. Like, I just like cooking with my homies and making dope music. But as far as like constantly touring and being away from my children or this or that, I can't do it because then I'd be a bad father, but I'd be a great businessman and make all this money that I've left on the table. But that's, that's one thing that really excites me is like I'm sitting on like 10 albums so I can just release them for my fans, then tour every once in a while. But really focus on movies, which is what I want to do more than anything in the world. It's like, really makes me happy. But it's scary too. I've said that like three times. It's pretty terrifying.
[50:18]
Elena
Would you have to move to LA if you were really into movies? Or can you live in Oregon still?
[50:22]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, yeah, I can. I can live where I'm living. I think that's what I would prefer to do.
[50:26]
Elena
Would they film? Not in Oregon.
[50:30]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I filmed. I filmed in Portland. I filmed my first film there. Yeah, it was cool. So I think I could, you know, pull like a totally. Just pull it off like fucking Madea and just do all my shit there because he.
[50:45]
Elena
You reference a lot of things.
[50:47]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yes, I do reference a lot of things. You're right. I just. I love movies. I like movies. Chandler, that's a director, she's awesome and she wrote this movie called I Like Movies.
[51:05]
Elena
Okay.
[51:06]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, dude.
[51:07]
Elena
Got it.
[51:07]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
So tight. So tight.
[51:11]
Elena
It's amazing. I'm happy for you.
[51:15]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
This is so cool that I'm on your show.
[51:17]
Elena
I'm so happy you're here. Can you tell?
[51:21]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I can.
[51:22]
Elena
You can.
[51:22]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
You seem quite nice.
[51:24]
Elena
Thank you.
[51:25]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, for sure. This is like a experience.
[51:28]
Elena
Is it?
[51:28]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
You know Andy Kaufman, right? Come on.
[51:31]
Elena
I heard of him.
[51:33]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
You heard of him?
[51:35]
Elena
I feel like I have you ever.
[51:36]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Seen Jim Carrey, man on the Moon?
[51:38]
Elena
Yeah. No, Jim Carrey I've seen like in person. No, in movies.
[51:44]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Nice.
[51:45]
Elena
Yep.
[51:46]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
So tight.
[51:46]
Elena
Yeah. Man on the Moon.
[51:50]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. It's by Andy Kaufman.
[51:52]
Elena
I've heard that name. Andy Kaufman.
[51:54]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Andy Kaufman started on SNL and he was incredibly known for doing the bit. That's why I wanted to join you in the beginning. I thought it'd be funny, you know what I mean?
[52:02]
Elena
What would be? Oh, if you. Yeah. I think you did great.
[52:06]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I thought it was pretty funny.
[52:07]
Elena
You're pretty. You're a funny guy.
[52:08]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I think. Yeah, I'm a fun guy. Like a. Like a mushroom.
[52:12]
Elena
I kind of felt like you were gonna do that joke.
[52:15]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's tight.
[52:16]
Elena
Yeah. Cute.
[52:18]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Honestly, this is really fun because I feel like I get to go in and out of so much shit.
[52:23]
Elena
Yeah, you can do that for sure. I kind of want to buy a T shirt here. A little oversized tee. What are you gonna do on your phone right now? Text your team. You're texting someone?
[52:40]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I just wanted to tell my wife I love her.
[52:42]
Elena
Really?
[52:42]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yes.
[52:43]
Elena
That's actually what you did?
[52:44]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Uh huh.
[52:46]
Elena
That's so cute.
[52:47]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I love her, man. Sorry. I figured it's kind of awkward Anyway, so I could do that. I was like, I'll hit you after. I gotta be professional.
[52:54]
Elena
I'll have cute.
[52:55]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
You clearly aren't. So I configured. It was fine.
[52:57]
Elena
Wait, was that. I'm what?
[52:59]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Awesome.
[53:00]
Elena
Okay. That's cute that you love her.
[53:04]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I do, yeah. Yeah.
[53:06]
Elena
Do you guys go on vacations a lot and spend time together? What do you guys do for fun?
[53:10]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
We spend a lot of time together. And, yeah, we take trips here and there for sure. For her birthday, I took her to Coronado island in San Diego.
[53:20]
Elena
I really know nothing.
[53:22]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, you know a lot of stuff.
[53:24]
Elena
You have said San Diego, and I knew that, but I didn't know the first part. And there's. There's a lot that I lost on me. What'd you guys do there?
[53:31]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Whatever she wanted to do. So we'd go to the beach and.
[53:34]
Elena
That's so sweet.
[53:35]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
We'd go eat and walk around and talk and smash.
[53:40]
Elena
I didn't need to know that.
[53:42]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah.
[53:42]
Elena
Kind of lived my whole life just by not hearing that.
[53:45]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
But I love my wife. What can I say? My wife. You know what I mean?
[53:50]
Elena
How long have you been married? How long were you together before you got married?
[53:54]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
We were together for like a year.
[53:56]
Elena
For a year?
[53:57]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Mm.
[53:57]
Elena
That's pretty quick.
[53:58]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It is, but after having been in a previous relationship for six years, I knew everything that I wanted.
[54:09]
Elena
I could say the same.
[54:12]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Whoa. A rings. Like, did the Wonder Twins.
[54:14]
Elena
It's true.
[54:14]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
You know about that?
[54:15]
Elena
Do you know that reference? I don't know what anything is.
[54:17]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's crazy.
[54:18]
Elena
I've stopped responding to your references. Cause I'm like, why?
[54:21]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Ask Inspecto Patronus.
[54:23]
Elena
Oh, I know that one.
[54:24]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What's that from?
[54:25]
Elena
Harry Potter.
[54:25]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Okay.
[54:26]
Elena
Okay.
[54:26]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
All right.
[54:26]
Elena
I was like, damn, what if I get that wrong?
[54:28]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Did you go to Harry Potter Land?
[54:29]
Elena
No, but I wanted to so bad. I got pregnant and then we just didn't go anywhere.
[54:33]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
You would have been fine.
[54:34]
Elena
No, it was Covid. I was. I also had a baby the same time you did, so everything was like. I only had, what, seven months of.
[54:42]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Being pregnant before COVID when I was, like, 25 or. Maybe. I don't know, whenever that shit opened, I went and I went on this. This fucking ride where there's, like, all these dementors. I gotta burp.
[54:56]
Elena
You do that a lot?
[54:57]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, I'm a natural human. Normal human.
[55:00]
Elena
So you're drinking water? It's not carbonated.
[55:07]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
So anyway, so I was on this. I was on this. This roller co. Like, ride thing at Universal, and I'm like, kind of nervous. And this is right when I started smoking weed. So maybe this was 2017. And I'm like, I was going into the bathroom all the time to rip my vape. Like I needed to hide it or something. I don't know why. It's California. Anyway. And then I get on this. This ride, and it's, like, kind of freaking me out, but I'm like, it's cool because, like, I'll get off in a second. And then I got stuck right as this giant dementor, like, was up on me, and he was the only one. It was like, lap dance vibes. And I was super freaking out. And I was stuck in the air for, like, maybe, like 12 minutes. And I also got stuck on Space Mountain. And I also got stuck on It's a Small World. And I almost pissed because I remember.
[56:01]
Elena
Going on a ride with you. You get stuck quite a bit.
[56:03]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
So it's such a weird thing.
[56:05]
Elena
That is very weird. I've been stuck maybe once for one minute. Never. Never for a long time.
[56:10]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, man. You ever watch Wayne's World? Yeah, it's a good one.
[56:15]
Elena
Is it about that?
[56:17]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, that actually has nothing to do with roller coasters. So I don't know what made you.
[56:22]
Elena
What made your mind.
[56:23]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I think it's because I went like this, and then I was thinking about Garth, who's like, Wayne. It's the whole thing, man. I hope this is going all right.
[56:31]
Elena
I wonder how many people watching this will know all of your references.
[56:34]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I don't know. What's your comment section like? Yikes.
[56:37]
Elena
It's different every time. Are people mean to me, if anything.
[56:41]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Really?
[56:41]
Elena
Yeah, you'll be fine.
[56:42]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I don't know. I'm logic. I'm loved and hated.
[56:45]
Elena
Are you?
[56:46]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, it's a. It's a thing. Definitely. Way more love. But they come out for you. Boy.
[56:51]
Elena
I'm only hated for stupid things.
[56:54]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Let's talk about that.
[56:55]
Elena
Let's talk about it.
[56:56]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Okay. So what would you say people give you shit for?
[56:59]
Elena
For getting a divorce? For leaving my family for fame.
[57:04]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, yeah. Does that get to you?
[57:06]
Elena
It doesn't get to me because it's not true. Yeah, but Jinx. Yes. Things that are more that I'm, like, insecure of might get to me, but things like that, that aren't true don't get to me. They're just annoying because I'm like, it's not.
[57:21]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I would say shit doesn't bother me, but it does a little bit. It used to bother me a lot. It took over my life. Like, I would be fucked up. I'd be up all night, and people talking shit about me.
[57:32]
Elena
They also have a thing of anytime I do anything, if my kids aren't in that, they're like, where are her kids? If you're a mom, you can't do anything without your kids being with you 24 7. And if I talk about them or I do post a picture with them, they're like, oh, look, she has her 1% of custody right now.
[57:50]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
And I'm like, okay, yeah, that's so whack. And then there's. It kind of makes you feel like you want to post your kid.
[57:55]
Elena
I know.
[57:55]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Because you're like, I'm a good parent. Look at this. But then it's like, but you.
[58:00]
Elena
I know.
[58:00]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I don't need to prove to you. Oh, man, that's a whole.
[58:03]
Elena
Because I. When I started my podcast, I really didn't post them at all. So people were like, she never sees her kids. But I'm like, maybe. Have you thought I just. If you are on My Close Friends, all you see is my children. But to the public, there's nothing.
[58:16]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What do you mean, close friends? What is that?
[58:18]
Elena
Oh, you're not really. You're really not on Instagram like that?
[58:20]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No. What the fuck is that?
[58:22]
Elena
Close friends.
[58:23]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What the fuck is that? My close friends are in the room with me right now. Like, what is that?
[58:28]
Elena
Close friends. You pick people and then.
[58:30]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
And then you can post things and only they see it.
[58:32]
Elena
Yeah. So I post stories all day.
[58:35]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I don't know how people live in the fucking Matrix. It blows my mind. I used to be consumed by it. It really was.
[58:40]
Elena
I love that. I like being connected to people. I like the public part of it isn't my favorite, but the close friends and stuff. I like being able to see what my family and friends are up to, who aren't near me, sharing pictures and stuff of my kids with them, for sure.
[58:56]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
But I'm just like. And I'm not hating. I'm just like, that's what the group text is for. With the family, for me. And, like, sending stuff to friends. And then I get this feeling of like, oh, wow, here's my son being like. And I can send it to a bunch of different people and. Yeah, but you could also just do it at once because you live in a world.
[59:16]
Elena
I mean, I have, like, 20 people on my Close Friends, and they get to see.
[59:19]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's right.
[59:20]
Elena
It's just my family and my friends, social media.
[59:22]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It's so stupid. But it's that. But it's the best at the same time. Exactly. It's weird. I wouldn't be here without it, but.
[59:28]
Elena
Part of me would love to have. I wish we could live a couple weeks without it. You know? You know when Tick Tock shut down. That was the best 24 hours ever. You didn't know that happened. You knew that happened. You're on.
[59:40]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No. There's no bit. It was gone.
[59:43]
Elena
It was gone for 20. Not even for like 12 hours. And it was the coolest 12 hours ever. You couldn't access it if you're in.
[59:49]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
The U.S. that's the one thing is. I don't know. I just feel like it's really messing our brains up a lot.
[59:57]
Elena
100. I felt. So I got so much done in those 12 hours because when I wasn't. Usually when I'm bored, I just scroll if I don't have anything, if my kids are sleeping.
[60:06]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What about Instagram? You could have just been on Instagram.
[60:08]
Elena
TikTok is not the same and I think that's why I hate it. But it's so addictive. Instagram, I can go on and look at people's stuff and then get out the TikTok for you page. I can spend all day long just scrolling when my kids fall asleep. That's how I put myself to sleep every night as I scroll.
[60:27]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's. That's probably not good for you.
[60:29]
Elena
No, I'm. That's probably why I'm tired all the time.
[60:32]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I like to read. What's funny.
[60:33]
Elena
What do you read?
[60:35]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
How she got the whole TikTok thing and you last night in the second. To my phone. Yeah.
[60:41]
Elena
What'd you do on his phone for.
[60:42]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
The first time and. I don't know. I couldn't tell you. I asked him to if I could see my Instagram account and what that was like. And so he showed it to me and I was like, I want to see what this is like. And I just, for two hours got.
[60:58]
Elena
Oh, my God.
[60:59]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, yeah. Because I wanted to consume it all. So I knew.
[61:03]
Elena
And I was like, do you miss it or you're good?
[61:05]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No. There's so much violence and violence, negative shit. And people fighting and yelling and screaming. And everybody's screaming.
[61:11]
Elena
Are they fighting this?
[61:12]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I want to kill you. And if you believe in that. I don't. And, you know, red state, blue state, this, that, all this other stuff. And I'm like, this is why I make.
[61:19]
Elena
I saw a lot in tv.
[61:20]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, my God, I have no idea. I saw like the Gates of hell, Humanity is up. But at the same time, man, Earth is beautiful.
[61:28]
Elena
I feel like if you saw my for you page, you wouldn't be as startled.
[61:31]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Is it, like, dope? Like, skin routines and stuff?
[61:33]
Elena
It's like, just girly stuff. Mom stuff. Kids. It's good. The things I have to get off of mine are like, children with cancer and stuff, because that's the stuff that it likes to. Sometimes, you know how if you click into something, read too many comments, that's all it gives you. And then I start getting very bad anxiety.
[61:52]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, I talked to my therapist about that years ago, and she was like, the last thing that you want to do when you see things like that is kind of like, go, oh, no, no, no. I can't think about that. Especially if you get these thoughts, like intrusive thoughts that aren't yours and they just come. And the last thing you want to do is freak out about it negatively, because then you train your brain to respond that way. And then what you begin to then do is constantly ruminate and overthink it, and the rumination just begets the anxiety, and the anxiety begets the rumination, and it just goes full throttle. So when you think of some gnarly shit or as a parent, like, if you get this thought of, like, oh, my God, what if, like, my baby fell out of my arms? Or something like that, instead of freaking out about it, be like, yep.
[62:33]
Elena
Yep. What?
[62:35]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I thought that, like, you know what I mean?
[62:37]
Elena
Oh, no, I can't.
[62:38]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, you just gotta go, yep, I'm.
[62:40]
Elena
Not gonna do that.
[62:41]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Because then you don't train your brain.
[62:42]
Elena
I feel like my therapist would tell me that. I think she actually says the opposite. She says, don't think about stuff like that because it's not gonna happen.
[62:51]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, for sure. I mean, it could happen.
[62:53]
Elena
No, it won't and it can't.
[62:54]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It could and it will not. But I. See, that's what I think makes me appreciate everything even more, is that it could happen. I think about that all the time. I think about dying and getting sick and my kids and all types of shit, but I don't overthink. I don't dwell on it. As it comes, I go, that could be a possibility. But I'm so blessed to have this moment right now.
[63:15]
Elena
That's a good way.
[63:16]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Y' all, like, right? Like, this is so tight. I'm glad we got to get the bit that was funny. You know what I mean? You know what I'm talking about?
[63:25]
Elena
Are you talking to. Who are you talking to me? Someone else?
[63:28]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I was talking to people watching.
[63:30]
Elena
Oh, the audience or your team? Because you're looking at your team.
[63:34]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, I'm not. I'm looking.
[63:35]
Elena
Oh, you're looking at the camera. Yeah, got it. What do you guys think?
[63:41]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Don't say that. They're gonna be like, worst guest ever.
[63:45]
Elena
They won't say that.
[63:46]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I don't know. Who knows?
[63:48]
Elena
They'll say all good things.
[63:50]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I'll tell you this. I really did used to focus on the negative so much. So much. Just as far as social media. And then one day my therapist was like, dude, you are so blessed. And so loved. Focus on it.
[64:04]
Elena
Yeah.
[64:05]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
And I think it's. I think. I think human beings is like, you know, on a fucking African plain in the jungle a thousand years ago, you can't just walk out past the brush and be like, this shit is beautiful, or you'll get fucking eaten by a lion. So I think it's, like, innate in us as human beings to always look for, you know, the kind of negative. And so we focus on that. But it's weird. Have you ever, like, looked at comments? I used to do this. You look at comments and it'd be like, I'll drop a song or something. It's like, flames, flame, emoji. This shit's crazy. I love you. You changed my life. You saved my life. And then somebody's like, you're not black. I'd be like, ow. And it's like. Or, you know, yeah, I hope your kid dies. And I'm like, oh, shit. And you try to rationalize and shit. Like, I would try to rationalize. Like, I would see people who, like, listen to MF Doom, watch Cowboy Bebop. Do you know what I'm talking about?
[65:01]
Elena
No.
[65:01]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Anyway, and then. And I'm like, we're the same person. And they're like, I fucking hate you. I fucking hate you. And I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I've never even shaken your hand. That's what's really wild is, like, people who have this predisposed, you know, idea. But then the weird. That's crazy is like, I. Then they'll say things like, I did put a snippet of on the Internet for this album I'm doing right now called Side Quest. And it's all just, like, turn up. Because it's like, what do you do after you beat the game? You go on a side quest. You ever played an RPG or jrpg? Anyway, so. So that's like, what it's about. But somebody Saw me and my child and they're like, damn. You know, I'll be talking, I'll be saying. But like, you kind of forget celebrities have real lives with children and xyz. And I'm like, celebrity. Like, it's so weird, you know? Like, Kanye west takes Kanye shits. You know what I mean? Like Jay Z for sure takes Jay Z shits. But like, I take Bob Poops. Like, I'm such a normal dude, you know what I mean? Where. I don't. So it's weird. Like I'm. I don't go anywhere. I'm in the house all the time with my kids and I'm in the fucking middle of nowhere, bro. On hundreds of acres.
[66:09]
Elena
Do people recognize you where you live?
[66:10]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's what I'm saying. I'll go to like the fucking store to get juice. And somebody's like, you saved my fucking life, man. And I'm like, oh, shit. And they're like your last album. And I forget because I don't live that life at all. At all, man. There was a time when it had me a little bit the ego, and not in a bad way, but just like, fuck yeah. Ever since I was a little boy, since I was young, I dreamed of this. And when I was 18, I would fucking grab the remote control and rap my own songs in the mirror. And I was like, one day, one day.
[66:38]
Elena
How did you get big?
[66:41]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's a crazy question because it depends who you ask. So if you ask like mainstream people, it's from 1-800-the song that I did about suicide prevention, which I'm very proud of, and I've loved that. That's how I'm known. It's kind of dope, at least to the masses, but the streets know that. I came up in the blog era. You know about that. So how old were you in like 2010?
[67:10]
Elena
Thirteen.
[67:11]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Nice. All right. Wow. Okay. I don't think you'll remember this at all, but there's this era called the blog era for hip hop. This song is sick. Two dope boys, fake Shore Drive, whack ass publications, like Hot New Hip Hop that would like, post all these incredible artists. And back then there was only like a few hundred artists. When you really think about it, there was only a few hundred artists, and I was lucky enough to be one of them. It was like me, Mac Miller, Big Sean, Wiz Khalifa, Kendrick, J. Cole, all these people. I guess J. Cole was a little bit before that with Drake. So they had kind of come up a few years anyway, and it was this wonderful community and I would just film with my homies and I had nothing. I was dirt broke. And this is while I was homeless. And then my homie let me live at his crib and I just pumped out music and I wanted it more than anything, more than anything in the world. And I always say, you know, truly, with determination, persistence, and, you know, realism and wanting success more than your next breath, you can attain anything. And a big thing is realism. And I always say this over and over in a lot of interviews because it's so important. I want people to know.
[68:22]
Elena
What do you mean by realism?
[68:23]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Realism, Exactly. So, like, when I did it, like, when I was like, I want to be a rapper, I wasn't like, yeah, I just want, like, bitches and hoes and yachts. I was like, I want to make really great art with a good message and start a brand. And that brand has made over $100 million. And I can't believe it. Like, it, like, blows my mind. And it's all about peace, love and positivity. Being a good person, pushing that message about being enough. And I'm so lucky and honored that I was able to do that, starting from this blog era. So that's what really blew me up, was like, I mean, this is before viral. This was just like, you're popping. Like, there was no. And. And then I got my record deal. No id. You know who that is. So no ID signed me to Def Jam and changed my life. And then I put out. I went through a lot. So much shit. I was fucking dealing with so much. And then I put out my first album and that was it. But it was a fight. It was such a fight. Everything was a fight, especially in not hip hop, because I don't want to. Hip hop is so beautiful and filled with so many incredible people and musicians, artists, and it's amazing. But there is. There's. There's almost like synonymous level of media or something, and it's very negative. And everybody's, like, angry all the time, you know? So it's like, so funny where. Whether I talk about where I grew up or how I grew up or my ethnicity or this or that, there's always somebody there to be. Like, no, you didn't. No, you're not. And it's so funny because in any other space, especially in film, especially in film and especially in real life, it's just like, oh, okay, that's who you are. That's fine. And it's not a thing. There's nothing to argue about. But you know these people, they go for low hanging fruit, all this other shit. So I had to fight through all that. And then I created my second album and that. It's called the Incredible True Story. And I wrote that about. Long story short, it takes place in 2115 about these two guys who live on a space station called babel. And they're one of 5 million human beings left because like war, war happened, war were declared. Futurama reference. You watch Futurama, it's a whole thing. So. And they're like exploring for a habitable planet.
[70:44]
Elena
You made this up, the story, okay.
[70:46]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
And they're exploring for it. And it's all on the album. So do you know who Orson Welles is? So Orson Welles, incredible writer. He started, he wrote arguably the greatest movie ever created. It's called Citizen Kane. It's insane. And he wrote this radio play called War of the Worlds where back in the day people would tune in on the radio before TikTok in the 1920s and really believe that they were listening to the end of the world because they were just doing essentially an audio cinematic experience, like a movie for the mind. And I was so enthralled by that. And I was like, I've never really heard anybody do that with the exception of Deltron 3030, you know, Del, the funky homo sapien. Okay. So. And so I wanted to do that and I did it. And there, this habitable planet that they're looking for is called Paradise. And I created this planet because I felt that I didn't have my own place and that everybody was constantly after me or attacking me or wanting something from me. So I created this really wonderful place called Paradise. Really inspired by a quote from Alan Watts. You know Alan Watts, wonderful philosopher. And he says, anything you can be interested in, you'll find others who are. And so that's who I made all my music for and after. And that's what really made me, made my name known in hip hop and fans around the world who weren't even listening to rap or this or that, young kids, which is crazy because now at 35, it's so insane to see these young people. And it's like I raised them and. And I wasn't talking about dumb, I was talking about love and peace. And like, that makes me really happy.
[72:24]
Elena
That was all before.
[72:26]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yep. And then the third album.
[72:29]
Elena
Yeah, was that just a song on it? What year was that?
[72:32]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That was 2017.
[72:34]
Elena
I remember listening to that when it came out, driving in my car and.
[72:38]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, it was wild.
[72:39]
Elena
It's everywhere.
[72:40]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Crazy ass time. I know. But then I used that to make a lot of money. Not the song, the eyes. So when I had created the song, it was just from a place in the heart. Nobody was like, yeah, this song about suicide prevention is gonna go off in the club. It wasn't like that. It was just from my heart. Because long story short, I had done a fan tour where before my second album came out, I traveled from California to New York City and went to my fans houses and like ate with them and played, met all their family and played my album before anybody. And one of the biggest things that a lot of these people were saying was like, yo, your music saved my life. And I'm like, what? What? Like what are you talking about? It was hard for me to accept because it just didn't feel real. I was just writing music about a dude who felt like he didn't belong. And I guess there was a lot of people who also felt that way back to that Alan Watts quote. And when I realized that I had that amount of power at 26 years old, I was like, I should actually do something with it. And you know, was clowned frivolously by people for the positive message or this or that or whatever. But I just stuck to my guns. And then once I did that from my heart. And I'd always wanted a hit record, who doesn't want that? But I had tried and it never worked. And with this I didn't try at all. And once I had all those eyes on me and all that recognition, I made a bunch of fucking turn up music because I knew I had the eyes and I had the attention. I went on tour and I did big deals. And the crazy part is, is that's like the part in, in hip hop culture where people would be like, that shit sucks, that shit is whack. Which I always thought was really funny because they'll be like, I wish he was doing his earlier shit, you know, rapping like that. But it never really made sense to me because I'm like, yeah, but this sold way, this sold million tens of millions and of copies and streams and billions and billions of streams and all this shit. So clearly this is more popular. Even if you're claiming there's must be a lot of people out there who really like it. And no matter what, there's two type of artists. I know I'm talking a lot, but fuck it, there's two types of artists. There's the, the kind of artist who makes art for the sake of art, which I think is beautiful. You clowning me?
[74:55]
Elena
Do I look like that?
[74:55]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I don't know. You look. Are you doing a bit? We going back to that?
[74:57]
Elena
I'm listening to you.
[74:59]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
You sure?
[74:59]
Elena
I'm listening. What would you like me to do?
[75:01]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
So there's two types of art.
[75:02]
Elena
Speak while you're talking.
[75:04]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
There's the artist that makes art for art and there's the artist that makes art for money. And I believe that neither is wrong. I really don't at all. And I think that, you know, people do deserve to be paid for whatever they do. I worked at Jiffy Lube and cleaning up toilets and they fucking pay me to do it. So it is what it is. Bill Withers, you know who that is? Incredible musician, timeless, amazing R.I.P.
[75:31]
Elena
He.
[75:32]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
You know that song just the two of us?
[75:35]
Elena
Yeah, yeah.
[75:35]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I'm pretty sure that's Withers from.
[75:37]
Elena
So you're pretty sure that's where it came from?
[75:39]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's Withers.
[75:40]
Elena
Okay.
[75:40]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, yeah. And so he says, you know, in terms of people asking if he ever sold out because he made a lot of money or you know, made maybe more popular type music for the time that he was in. He said if you look at any business, especially an incredible establishment like this, the greatest sign that you could see on their window is sold out. And I feel that I've always made art from my heart, no matter what it is. Even all this super trapped, turn up, fun, ignorant ass music that I'm making right now that I'm going to release in side quests. That's okay to make art that will generate money, but I find it funny that after years of making pop music and trap music and all this shit that made me a lot of money at the height of it, my son was born and I said, I don't want to do this anymore. And I said, I want to be the best dad that I can be and the best husband I can be. And that's not going to be from the road and that's not going to be focused on things that don't matter, like comments and other people that have never met me or shaking my hand or shared a meal with me. And I decided to just focus on reality and kind people and loving individuals who accept me for me and to only have validation through that. And while doing that, that's when I decided I am going to make the most. I want to make those, those earlier albums again. I want to make that raw, classical, respectfully unpopular hip hop because I Love it. And I did it. And that shit didn't stream shit. It didn't stream shit and only made, I don't know, maybe like 10 M's, you know what I'm saying? Like it wasn't crazy.
[77:30]
Elena
It made $10 million.
[77:31]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, like maybe, maybe about, about 10, 10 M's. No, but I'm saying what I'm talking about is from, you know, the perspective of a businessman, I mean, I've easily in the last. What is this, 20, 25? I probably left 40, probably about $40 million on the table because I wasn't in the machine. The hamster wheel of go, go, go, go, go money. More, more, more, more, more. I wanted to focus on my family. And in doing so, I then began writing about my family. And then people are like, I don't want to hear you fucking rapping about being a good dad and a faithful husband. And I'm like, you need Jesus. Like, you know what I mean? I think that's a wonderful thing to rap about because there's not a lot of people doing that and I love that. So I did it. And I just find it funny that by reverting to creating this more traditional sound from me, even though it's, albeit elevated, especially when you just factor in, you know, my age and growth and maturity as a human being, the best I can, that it was not as successful as far as a numbers game goes. But to then look at hip hop and actually see the amount of reverence and respect like Birdman, respect on my name. That Birdman, I've heard of him. Okay, got it. Great. It's a good one. One for 13. So one for like 50? No, you got it, you're fine. I just found it really funny to see so much respect of like logic as an mc. Like no matter what you say, whatever you want about me, I'm corny because I love my kids or I love the fact that I'm half black. Fuck yeah, that's fine, you know, but it's like I just found it really funny. So I was like, man, we should just like fuck with people and make some super turn up fun trap ass shit. After five years of the most traditional music. So I'm excited to see what happens with it. It's either gonna fail or it's not. But it doesn't fucking matter because my fans are gonna love it, which is who my therapist reminded me years ago and even recently to focus on, focus on the people that love you, not the ones that don't. Sorry, Long. I apologize very Long, but I wanted to get it out.
[79:41]
Elena
I'm happy you did. Have you had the same therapist all these years?
[79:45]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No. You know what's really crazy is my physical original therapist I had when I was, like, 24. 23, 24. Very sweet woman, very nice. But I always felt like an asshole because I was, you know, 24 years old, and I'm like, oh, my God, millions of dollars, and I'm freaking out, and I'm paying for people's lives, and they got kids, and I'm raising their kids, and I don't even know what I'm doing, and I got to go here and do this, and da, da, da, da. And she's just looking at me, and I kind of felt like she couldn't understand me, you know, she was looking at me like I was some celebrity and not a human being. But it's really difficult, I think, because at the end of the day, money doesn't change anything. You know, Jim Carrey, who, you know, said, I wish that every single person in the world could have all their dreams come true, have all the money, and have everything they ever wanted so they realize how that actually doesn't matter at all. And that's. That is a real thing. And I say that as a guy from section 8. You know, like I said, guns in the house and people dying, cooking crack and all that shit. What? It doesn't know. It doesn't.
[80:44]
Elena
Money. Does it matter at all?
[80:45]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I have been starving as a child, okay?
[80:48]
Elena
I have to. I had a pretty. I feel like it does.
[80:51]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, man. Yeah, well, maybe it's different. Maybe it's different.
[80:54]
Elena
You got. You got to the stage where you have, like, a ton of money. So maybe you forgot.
[81:01]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What? No, I could never forget. I write about it in my memoir, man.
[81:04]
Elena
Yeah, but it does help a little.
[81:07]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, I didn't say it didn't help.
[81:09]
Elena
It makes things a little.
[81:10]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I said it doesn't matter.
[81:11]
Elena
It does matter a little.
[81:12]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, it depends on what we're talking about. About. So you can tell me without question what you think it matters for, but what I was talking about is your mental and spiritual state.
[81:22]
Elena
Yeah.
[81:22]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
So that's. That's all.
[81:23]
Elena
I mean, you don't feel like it's easier now that you have money, though?
[81:27]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, I think I'm comfortable.
[81:28]
Elena
But I think you can afford to get therapy and.
[81:30]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, a thousand percent. But it doesn't mean I haven't thought about killing myself. I couldn't do it because then I'd be a fucking meme. Because I'm the 1-800-Guy. It's the whole thing. So I'm stuck here, you know.
[81:42]
Elena
I'm sorry.
[81:43]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, but I completely understand what you're saying. It is without question, it brings comfort. But I don't think that all. Having all this money. I'm not talking about money in general. You have to live, you have to eat, you have to survive. You need that. It is what it is. But yachts and gyms.
[82:00]
Elena
No, of course not.
[82:01]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's what I'm talking about.
[82:02]
Elena
Well, I'm talking about just money in general. I think that if everybody could just have a little. Just enough to at least meet their basic needs, I think that.
[82:10]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, it would help, but it would. Once again, it wouldn't solve.
[82:13]
Elena
No, it wouldn't solve problems, but it does make it a bit easier. I was just making sure we were on the same page.
[82:20]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
We're on the same page.
[82:21]
Elena
And I don't think they'd make memes of you. They'd be like, it's always.
[82:24]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
They would totally make memes of me. No, they'd be like, he should have listened to his own song.
[82:29]
Elena
No, it would.
[82:31]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's what the. They would say.
[82:32]
Elena
No, they would say it's always the people who. Who you least expect it or who look like they're the strongest people. That's what they would say.
[82:41]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, well, like I said, don't do that.
[82:43]
Elena
Don't. I don't want to be on my. My podcast that you talked about that. That's horrible.
[82:48]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That'd be good for you, probably.
[82:49]
Elena
I don't want to be known for pushing you over the edge.
[82:53]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, no, no.
[82:53]
Elena
But I killed the 1-800-guy. It's going to be bad. It's bad.
[82:59]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yo, I don't want to do it. Yo, you're so good. You're funny, man.
[83:03]
Elena
Don't.
[83:04]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I gotta put you in a movie.
[83:05]
Elena
I would love to do that. One day. I did my first tiny role in a movie.
[83:10]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
How was it? Also, I am not gonna kill myself. I'm a human being who has thoughts. Had. Had. Has had thoughts.
[83:17]
Elena
Yeah.
[83:18]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's all I'm saying.
[83:19]
Elena
In life, I feel like having kids changes a lot, too.
[83:22]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, my God. Are you kidding? That's why. And I definitely want to pivot back to what you were saying about acting. But that's why it's so sad when you think about the people who do have children. What? Where their mind must have been. I mean, God.
[83:35]
Elena
Yeah.
[83:36]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Where you wake up every day constantly in the dark as though there's no. There's no light, and there really is light. But there's some gnarly shit that happens. Sexual abuse, physical abuse. So much stuff. Shit that's happened to me, you know, and you, you know. But there's some shit that happens, and some people just can't take it. And it's really sad because they don't have others and they feel alone. Yeah, you're not alone. It's 988 these days. That's the number it changed. Yeah, they changed it.
[84:03]
Elena
It's not 1-800-whatever it was.
[84:06]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No. Congress wrote me this letter.
[84:08]
Elena
Oh. They were like, do you need to change your song?
[84:10]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
They. No, they were like, thank you so much for. But I'm very fortunate. I have a wonderful group of people around me that I talk to all the fucking time about everything. So that's why I feel so. I really feel very healthy mentally, even though it's difficult. I deal with a lot of crazy, gnarly shit, and there's a lot of stress and weight on my shoulders, but I have my best friends and I have my wife, and I just talk all the time, and it's amazing. So your role.
[84:40]
Elena
Wow. Good pivot back. It was tiny. It was like, over in the entire movie. It's like a solid two minutes.
[84:49]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Sick.
[84:50]
Elena
It was very fun, though.
[84:52]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Nice. Is it out?
[84:53]
Elena
No, it'll be out in this year or something. I don't know. They haven't released it yet or announced it or anything. It was a cool little role. It was with. What's her name? Chloe Grace Moretz. Do you know who that is?
[85:04]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, I do. From Kick Ass. You seen it?
[85:07]
Elena
Mm.
[85:07]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Mm. It's a great one. With Jim Carrey.
[85:09]
Elena
Oh, wow. No, I haven't seen it, but she was the lead in it and I got a tiny little role.
[85:13]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's sick.
[85:13]
Elena
Well, it's very exciting.
[85:15]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That's pretty cool. I'm gonna remember this, though, because you are a professional.
[85:19]
Elena
We'll see. I would love to show up late.
[85:21]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
And don't do your research, but besides.
[85:22]
Elena
That, I am not ever late. I just really did not think it was in Burbank. Burbank is so far from anything.
[85:33]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Why do you think my neck gets red in interviews?
[85:36]
Elena
I can't answer that for you.
[85:39]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What, you think it's excitement?
[85:40]
Elena
No, I think that your neck gets red all the time and you only notice it because in interviews you're being recorded.
[85:45]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, it doesn't. Right, George? I have a pasty neck.
[85:48]
Elena
George isn't gonna. George doesn't. Look at your Neck all day long. Every single day.
[85:54]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yes, he does. He protects me.
[85:56]
Elena
By staring at your neck?
[85:57]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Well, staring at me. I figured he would know.
[86:00]
Elena
I feel like he notices. I think your neck is. I'm gonna start noticing every time.
[86:04]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
So weird it happened. It's happened a couple times. The first time it happened was Trevor. Noah, you're not. Your neck just got in 2019, when I was there promoting my novel, you were on stage, New York Times number one bestseller.
[86:15]
Elena
Did you have your.
[86:18]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What?
[86:19]
Elena
Did you have your makeup artist? Come on?
[86:21]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No. And I was hungover.
[86:23]
Elena
Did anybody notice?
[86:25]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, I don't explain the.
[86:27]
Elena
For having a redneck. That's. I didn't know.
[86:30]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, I did. Redneck.
[86:33]
Elena
Is that why they call it that?
[86:35]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, my God, woman.
[86:36]
Elena
Is that what you are? Is that.
[86:38]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
You don't know that?
[86:39]
Elena
Is that really? Because their neck turns red white, people.
[86:41]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Are outside fucking wife beaters and shit. Can you not say that? Did that get canceled that term? Anyway, they're in wife beaters and they're, you know, doing their thing that they do there. And then they just. Shit done, get on down there in the back and they fucking their cousin or something like that. And then it happens and their neck gets super red.
[86:58]
Elena
And now you have that too.
[87:00]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. But it was weird, though, because I got it from, like, I don't get it. Maybe it really is nerves, because coming in, you know, I was like, I'm gonna do a bit. It's gonna be great.
[87:09]
Elena
It's nerve wracking, I guess.
[87:11]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Nerve necking. I have to get Botox in my neck.
[87:14]
Elena
You do?
[87:15]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah.
[87:15]
Elena
For it.
[87:16]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No, not for a redneck. No, that's not it.
[87:19]
Elena
What do you get it for?
[87:20]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I actually love talking about this in case there's people out there who also have this. I have cervical dystonia, which is weird because I don't have a cervix, but cervical is like neck.
[87:31]
Elena
Okay.
[87:33]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, my God. Anyway, so, yeah, I have cervical dystonia and my head shakes, so I have to. I have to, like.
[87:39]
Elena
What do you mean?
[87:39]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Like, if I was to sit still and I didn't have the shots, my head would just do this.
[87:43]
Elena
Really?
[87:43]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, it's kind of. It sucks. And I was really nervous because I was like, oh, no, what if? What if I'm gonna have this forever and all this other. And I found this incredible doctor in Oregon who specializes in movement neurological disorders.
[87:58]
Elena
And that's so smart.
[88:00]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
So he goes in there and he weakens the muscles so that they can contract. And yeah, my. My neck looked like A bad bitch.
[88:09]
Elena
It's all skinny now or what?
[88:11]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I don't know. Whatever Botox does, I don't know.
[88:17]
Elena
I wonder what camera are you choosing to be the one you look at?
[88:21]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What'd you say?
[88:21]
Elena
Are you looking at the camera?
[88:23]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yes.
[88:24]
Elena
That's your camera over there.
[88:25]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Oh, shit. I'm sorry.
[88:27]
Elena
No, that one's on both of us.
[88:29]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Alrighty. This is, this is good.
[88:31]
Elena
It's okay. I forgive you. 1-800-Guy- Bob. I don't feel like people know your name is Bob.
[88:39]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
My fans do. My fans come up to me on the street and go, Bobby.
[88:44]
Elena
Really?
[88:45]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, I'm like, yeah, that's me. My fans are the greatest fans in the world. Except like the bitch ass ones on like Reddit and shit.
[88:55]
Elena
Well, they're not your fans, are they?
[88:56]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, no they're not. They suck. Those are the people who say. They'll say shit like, oh my God, this singles absolute ass garbage. Terrible. And then somebody be like, why are you here? And they're like, because I'm a giant fan. It's just like what that's like. When I got off the Internet, I was like, is this really how people talk?
[89:17]
Elena
Reddit is a scary place.
[89:20]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I guess so.
[89:21]
Elena
I don't like to go on there. Well, I like to, but not to see stuff about me.
[89:25]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, but you look it up, don't you?
[89:27]
Elena
Of course.
[89:28]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No. What is with that? I used to do it all the time. All the time. Now I've avoided everything. So I like, I put out my last book. I didn't read what anybody said about it. I put out my last album, most anticipated album, Ultra 85. I put that shit out. And that was my farewell to like not farewell to emceeing, but it was a farewell to like.
[89:47]
Elena
That's all I'm seeing.
[89:47]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I'm seeing is it's a term. So originally, you know, hip hop was essentially birthed in the late 1970s and the term MC originates from block parties. So you'd have two DJs, right? Disc jockeys. Okay, you'd have two DJs.
[90:09]
Elena
That's what DJ stands for.
[90:10]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yes, it does.
[90:11]
Elena
You know a lot of things.
[90:13]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I am just, I listen, I listen, I'm a sponge. I love to learn.
[90:17]
Elena
Yeah, that's my favorite thing.
[90:19]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
So back in the day on the block, you know, you'd have like some Run DMC looking like hippity hip hop. But yeah, and they'd like be spinning into DMC, stand for Run DMC. DMC is one of the people in Run D.C. anyway, so, you know Rev Run. Remember that? Run's house? Whose house? Okay. So. So they'll be spinning and doing their thing. They played, like, a funky beat, and then the other DJ would also do their thing. It was kind of like a battle of the bands between two gentlemen in, you know, in their hood. And then the MC came into play. And MC stands for Master of Ceremony. So it's. It's a master. It's a. You know, a person who essentially commands the crowd. Right? Like Freddie Mercury at Wembley. So then it went from. My DJ is cooler than y' all. You know, my DJ will you up type. And then it'd be like. And then it's like Childish Gambino. I went to the hat store today and I got myself a hat type shit. Oh, you probably don't even know what I'm talking about. Okay. And then the other dude's DJ would have an emcee, and he'd be like, no, my DJs the best. My DJs the flies. T man, Smoking on green.
[91:34]
Elena
Get the highest.
[91:35]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Something like that, right? And then it turned into, my DJ, I'm the best. And then the MCs began to rap about their own personal experiences. And then battle. Yeah, that's kind of. That's the birth of the mc.
[91:50]
Elena
You know how you're a sponge and you absorb stuff?
[91:53]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Like spongebob.
[91:54]
Elena
You just said that. I absorb nothing. Everything you just said nothing stuck. I don't know what an MC is.
[92:02]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
But the cool thing is, is this is why you have a show, because people genuinely care. And they'll learn.
[92:07]
Elena
Yeah, they'll learn.
[92:08]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Or at least I hope so.
[92:09]
Elena
I would have loved to have learned. I'm not very. I need. I'm a visual learner. I would have needed it to be drawn out, but I don't.
[92:16]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What are you talking about? I just did this whole thing.
[92:19]
Elena
I got it, but I need it to be on paper.
[92:21]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
What does DJ stand for?
[92:24]
Elena
Oh, Disc jockey.
[92:26]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
You retain some information.
[92:28]
Elena
If I didn't repeat that right, Abigail.
[92:30]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
More.
[92:30]
Elena
There's a lot of learning moments here.
[92:33]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
That actually is so sweet, because that makes me feel good, because that's all I want to do.
[92:37]
Elena
Teach people things.
[92:38]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah, Like, I did. I did that a lot with, like, in my music and. But I feel like my whole career, I was telling people, and now, through cinema, I want to show them. So I'm excited to put that to a picture, but it's pretty cool, you know, just teaching what I've learned or whatever. I've kind of gone through in my experiences, I think it's important.
[92:57]
Elena
You have a lot of stuff, you know. Mr. Bob, thank you for doing this interview today. And thank you for interviewing me. I'm going to start carrying around a little journal.
[93:08]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
You know, it's just like six grand, the journal. Well, the pen is. The journal's like two bands. Because. Because.
[93:15]
Elena
Are you serious?
[93:16]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Well, first of all, yeah, it's a Mont Blanc. Which Wes Anderson. Do you know who Wes Anderson is?
[93:20]
Elena
No.
[93:20]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Wes Anderson is one of the greatest filmmakers.
[93:22]
Elena
Can I hold it? A six thousand dollar pen.
[93:26]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It's pretty gnarly.
[93:27]
Elena
Are you. Are you just kidding?
[93:28]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
No.
[93:28]
Elena
Is that serious?
[93:29]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yes.
[93:30]
Elena
What does it do?
[93:31]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It writes things down.
[93:34]
Elena
What happens when it runs out of ink? You pay 6,000 or you refill the ink.
[93:37]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I know. You just refill the ink and it's like the best ink in the world, basically.
[93:40]
Elena
How much is the ink?
[93:41]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I don't know, like 250 bucks.
[93:43]
Elena
Where do you get this stuff?
[93:44]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
This ink? It all comes from Europe. So it's. But here's my rationale.
[93:50]
Elena
Yeah, let's hear it.
[93:51]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I can afford it. I donate to various organizations, help single mothers. I'm not all types of things like that with my money should judge you.
[94:01]
Elena
For what you spend.
[94:01]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I know, but I used to always be on that Walmart game and honestly still am because t man be getting me some flash shit from Walmart. But the reason I would invest in things like supreme Louis Vuitton Goyard, I would have made fun of myself 20 years ago. But now I actually understand that instead of buying 10 shit briefcases that are gonna fall apart over the next decade of my life, I can just get one really incredible one that can last a lifetime.
[94:29]
Elena
What if you lose it?
[94:31]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I mean, I'll buy another one.
[94:32]
Elena
Oh, boy.
[94:33]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
But also it's like what I'm gonna write with that will make me millions of dollars and it inspires me.
[94:38]
Elena
That's what I don't feel like. A Bic pen would make you millions of dollars. I feel like it has made you.
[94:42]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It has.
[94:43]
Elena
It probably made you way more money than this pen.
[94:45]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It has.
[94:46]
Elena
Why is that $2,000?
[94:48]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Because it's made out of really good leather.
[94:50]
Elena
Can I see it? I won't look in.
[94:54]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Inspires me. That's the biggest thing.
[94:56]
Elena
Where do you buy this? That they bought together.
[95:00]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
They're from the same company. No, no, this is Smithson. Wait, this is Smithson, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's Smith Smithson and then that's.
[95:07]
Elena
I didn't know there was a market for very overpriced pens.
[95:10]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
And it inspires me, especially writing films and coming up with shit. It's so cool. It's, like, in my pocket.
[95:16]
Elena
It looks like a Bible.
[95:18]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah. That's actually real gold.
[95:20]
Elena
Of course it is. This, obviously.
[95:22]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
This should be, too.
[95:23]
Elena
For six gold.
[95:24]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Yeah.
[95:27]
Elena
Crazy.
[95:28]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
It's just cool.
[95:29]
Elena
I'm proud of you. I hope I get to a point in my life where I can afford a $6,000 pen and a $2,000 notebook.
[95:35]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I will probably gift you one one day.
[95:38]
Elena
Probably gift me one one day. That'd be. I would. I don't deserve that.
[95:43]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Okay, then I will not.
[95:44]
Elena
Yeah, I will lose it.
[95:45]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
You got it.
[95:46]
Elena
Or I could frame it somehow.
[95:47]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Is my neck red?
[95:48]
Elena
It's not red. Or laugh. Get out of here. Goodbye, guys.
[95:55]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
There's Jacques.
[95:56]
Elena
Goodbye, Bob.
[95:56]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
All right. Goodbye.
[95:58]
Elena
Enjoy yours.
[95:59]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
Should I do that? Is this one of those. No. Awkward.
[96:01]
Elena
You want to shake hands? Sure. Nice to meet you. Okay.
[96:04]
Logic (Sir Robert Bryson Hall II)
I'm out of here.
[96:05]
Elena
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