The Rest Is Classified
Episode 12: The Spy Who Loved Me: A Russian in New York (Ep 2)
Release Date: January 21, 2025
Hosts: David McCloskey & Gordon Corera

Introduction

In this enthralling episode of The Rest Is Classified, hosts David McCloskey and Gordon Corera delve deep into the shadowy world of espionage, focusing on the captivating story of Anna Chapman—a young Russian woman who became one of the most infamous spies in New York City. Drawing from Gordon Corera’s insightful book, The Wonderful Russians Among Us, the episode unravels the intricate operations, surveillance tactics, and eventual downfall of Chapman within the intricate web of international espionage.

Anna Chapman's Entry into New York

The story begins with Anna Chapman's arrival in New York, where she seamlessly integrated herself into high society. Described by an acquaintance as "relentless," Chapman quickly established connections within the financial sector, leveraging her confidence and social acumen to navigate influential circles. Gordon Corera narrates:

"She really understood people... Well, that is some Coreran prose if I've ever heard it."
[02:12]

Anna’s ability to blend in and gain trust was instrumental in her role as a deep-cover spy, collecting intelligence while maintaining the facade of a successful businesswoman.

FBI Surveillance and Operation Ghost Stories

Unbeknownst to Anna, the FBI had placed her under intense surveillance as part of Operation Ghost Stories, a meticulously planned mission to monitor Russian illegals in the United States. The operation was spearheaded by a crucial asset, Alexander Potaev—a high-ranking Russian intelligence officer who had been turned by the FBI. This insider provided invaluable information that allowed the FBI to keep a close watch on Chapman and her compatriots.

Gordon explains the significance of Potaev’s role:

"He is like the line manager effectively for illegals in the States. It's an absolute intelligence coup."
[10:00]

The surveillance teams, affectionately dubbed "Phoebes" by David (a nod to their undercover work), monitored Chapman’s every move. The meticulous observation included tracking her interactions and technological communications, such as her use of a laptop to pass information discreetly.

The Capture and Arrest

As Operation Ghost Stories progressed, the FBI grew increasingly confident in their control over the situation. However, the operation faced a critical challenge when Russian President Dmitry Medvedev made a diplomatic visit to the United States, compelling the FBI to expedite the arrest to avoid international embarrassment.

The hosts recount the tension during the final moments of the operation:

"The idea is that they always thought at some point we might try and arrest these illegals... but here's the almost bizarre coincidence"
[13:12]

On June 26, 2010, Chapman received a phone call purportedly from a consulate official, which was actually a carefully orchestrated entrapment maneuver by the FBI. Under pressure and sensing something was amiss, Chapman contacted her father—a former KGB officer—for advice. Her father’s guidance to “report to the police” inadvertently led her straight into the FBI’s trap.

David reflects on the delicate timing required:

"The order from the White House is, you cannot do this until the Russian President has left and his plane has left."
[17:00]

Ultimately, the FBI executed a flawless arrest once Medvedev had departed, ensuring minimal diplomatic fallout. Chapman was taken into custody without any incriminating evidence of espionage, as the operation relied heavily on surveillance rather than direct proof.

Spy Swap and Aftermath

Rather than prosecuting Chapman and her fellow spies, the U.S. opted for a high-profile spy swap. In July 2010, at Vienna Airport, Chapman and nine other Russian operatives were exchanged for individuals being held in Russia for espionage against the West. This deal was met with sensational media coverage, turning Chapman into an overnight tabloid sensation.

Gordon highlights the cultural impact of the swap:

"This is something that matters to him [Putin]. He is treated as heroic figures."
[43:17]

Upon her return to Russia, Chapman embraced her fame, leveraging her status to build a personal brand. She appeared in Russian media, starred in television shows, and amassed a significant social media following, effectively transforming her espionage past into a successful public persona.

Insights and Conclusions

The episode underscores the complexity and high-stakes nature of modern espionage. David and Gordon emphasize that without the insider information provided by assets like Potaev, operations like Chapman’s could have caused far greater damage by infiltrating influential sectors in Western societies.

David offers a reflective insight:

"If she hadn't been watched, she could have been very damaging... more than, if you like, the honey trap stereotype."
[48:35]

Moreover, the episode sheds light on the enduring cat-and-mouse game between intelligence agencies, highlighting that as long as global tensions persist, the cycle of spying and counterintelligence will continue. The hosts conclude by suggesting that stories like Anna Chapman’s are just the tip of the iceberg, with many more spies operating under the radar worldwide.

Gordon adds:

"There is tremendous incentive for the Russians to be building these programs and dispatching this type of person."
[49:38]

Conclusion

The Rest Is Classified delivers a compelling narrative that not only explores Anna Chapman’s journey as a spy but also offers a broader understanding of the intricate dynamics of international espionage. Through expert analysis and detailed storytelling, David McCloskey and Gordon Corera illuminate the hidden battles fought in the shadows, reminding listeners of the ever-present influence of spies in our global landscape.

Note: The timestamps referenced correspond to the original podcast transcript provided.