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Xavier, the CEO of Walk With Me. Thank you for joining the Riley Gaines Show. Super duper excited you're on. There are very few people like you with your background and your experience and your testimony, quite frankly, on the conservative side of the aisle, especially in the influencing, if you even want to call it that department. Can you give us a little bit of that background that I'm talking about? Because I think it's incredibly interesting and it probably gives you unique insight and perspectives and a lot of the things even still that are circulating the conversations online.
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Well, first of all, thank you for having me, Mrs. Barker. You know, I'm a huge longtime fan and supporter of you and I play no games about you ever. Not today and not any other day. But yes, I come from a, you know, I would say unique, but I would at this point, there's so many people that are coming along the journey with me. I'm very happy about it. But I was a BLM activist. I grew up in a very left wing liberal household. I would dare to even say it was pretty much Marxist my upbringing. And I was told my entire life that I needed to fixate on race and that everything needed to be about race. And then as a joke I applied to be on a Netflix reality show and ended up being cast to be a part of the Circle. Either season two or three, they were filming it during COVID and my whole character was supposed to be me pretending or me pretending to be a woke white woman being a catfish online but teaching people how to be progressive activist. And in the process of getting ready to go on that show I was like, well let me study the counter arguments so that I could go up and debate Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro and Prager U and try to debunk all these Prageru videos. And I accidentally debunked myself instead and backed out of the show. Next thing you know I'm like, well if I am wrong about all these different things, I'm wrong about the Democratic party, I'm wrong about socialism. I can't be the only one who is going through this. So I started speaking out and five years later here we are on the Riley Gaines show.
B
So this was peak Covid, you said. So like, what, 20, 20, 2021 timeframe?
C
Yes. And the only reason I applied to be on this reality show is because I was bored. It was the height of the pandemic. And I made this application video as a joke because it was one of the shows I was binge watching with my old roommate, and he, like, his girlfriend, actually was the one that got me to end up sending the video in during COVID So I was like, okay, well, I'm doing this now. And I end up being selected to be a finalist right after George Floyd had died. So it was all just happening at the same time. And because it was Covid, I had nothing but time on my hands. So I'm like, well, let me start researching without confirmation bias, which I didn't realize how bad I had confirmation bias. And I saw quickly that I was not researching to make a conclusion. I already had a conclusion that I was trying to research, to defend. But once I started looking at the conservative side of the argument, I started realizing, oh, wait, socialism has literally never worked. BLM has always been a scam, and the Democratic Party has always been the party of racism and violence. I have just been drinking the Kool Aid because this was the indoctrination that was put upon me from the age of a little child.
B
Well, let me tell you, I watched the show the Circle. I enjoyed it. I had no idea, though, that they give you that much prep or maybe direction going into the show. So that's super interesting. And I will say the COVID to reality television pipeline must be universal because I applied for Survivor. Imagine me, like, out in the wilderness. I just thought the idea at the time, like, again, this is pre Covid, where you're kind of like, think everyone had, like, a little bit of hysteria, especially me. I was a college athlete during the time, and I felt like I was getting fat. I wasn't swimming the same way. I'm like, I want to go on Survivor so I can be skinny. That's what I wanted. So the pipeline is so real. Anyways, all that to say with this being like the George Floyd timeline, that was like kind of another wrench in it all, though. Talk about that. And then when you're speaking up came, I think, and specifically the George Floyd timeline and maybe some of the response that you saw from other BLM activists.
C
Yeah, so I was already a BLM activist long before George Floyd. So I was already, you know, I was the kid in high school that was putting the posters all over the walls I was the kid in college that was, you know, spreading WOKE stuff on campus. I was never a radical left, but I was always very, you know, woke. I was trying so hard to, you know, live out this dream that I had of continuing the civil rights mission, dare I say so. Then by the time that everything happened with George Floyd, I was really aghast pretty quickly on after George Floyd's death because I just started seeing people exploiting the movement so much, and I started realizing how performative a lot of the activism was. Like, I remember I was never on the all cops are bad train. Eight of my uncles were police officers. My best friend is a police officer, and he was my best friend then too. And he was in the police academy when all of this was happening. So I knew that I wasn't against all police officers. So I thought it was weird that so many people were demonizing every single cop. And I thought it was insane to watch the looting and the rioting happening. And I remember I created a twitch account where I was watching these antifa riots and the looting, and it was like these white antifa members saying that they were stealing all of these shoes and TVs in the name of justice for reparations. It's like there's so many layers of why this just wasn't making sense to me. Then I started looking at some of the families. I looked at Breonna Taylor's mother and how Breonna Taylor's mother was even speaking out, saying that her daughter's name and death was exploited and there was millions of dollars made off of her death, and not a single dollar went. Went to her legal fees or anything of that nature. So I just started seeing the fraud pretty early on. And whenever I called it out, I was told that I needed to stay in line or that I was losing the plot. And I just got sick of it. I was tired of it. And then once I started seeing behind the Curtain, it was around that same time I started to do the research and started going on like prageru.com and looking at the videos, seeing that the party switch never happened, seeing that the KKK was a Democratic party wing, seeing how ActBlue was funneling all of this money that we thought was going to the black community, but actually going towards progress of causes that were further destroying the black community. And once I had enough, I finally walked away.
B
Talk about that for a second. You know, the party switch never happened. I think that's very relevant now, especially with what we've seen in the past few weeks with the Southern Poverty Law center, who had been receiving and funding white supremacist rallies. So this party switch elaborated on that a little bit more. Yes.
C
So a lot of people will try to argue with you, saying that, well, Republicans, yes, they'll agree that Republicans freed the slaves and that Republicans, you know, were in favor of civil rights. But then they'll say that there was this big switch. It's like, okay, when did this switch happen? It never happened. Over the course of 30 to 40 years, you maybe had a handful of people that switched parties. You will always see, like, different slight alignments changing over the course of decades when it comes to political parties. But there was never a grand moment of them being like, okay, well, we're now the Democratic Party and you're now the Republican Republican Party, and we are going to take over these issues. That simply never happened. That's a myth. And when people try to. So my thing when I say to people is when they bring up the party switch, I'm like, okay, how many seats actually changed? How many people actually got up and went to the other side? That did not happen. So when we see now that the Southern Poverty Law center is getting exposed for sending millions of dollars to the KKK and to the American Nazi party, that does not shock me at all. Because this has always been their strategy. Because what they know is that racism, and particularly the fear of racism, has always been the Achilles heel of our society. Our country has bent over backwards more than any other nation to right the wrongs of our past. So what they know is that if they don't have that leverage of the fear of racism, then they don't have leverage at all. So that's why they're taking hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars and pointing it towards making it seem like there's racism. The supply for racism was not reaching the demand. So they had to overexpose these different groups that are so niche with so few people that actually align with them. They had to go and funnel the racism and create these rallies. And so many of the different events that happened with, like, the Unite the right rallies that was funded by the splc, that was funded by the left, because they want to try to make it seem like there's way more racism in this country than there actually is. And that says a lot about the state of the left.
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Yeah. You know, you can't fight something that's not really there. So what do you do? You create it. And the fear of racism. That's a really good point. And it's not even just America. We've seen people like Keir Sarmer, the prime minister in England, who has said, like, you know, the greatest threat that Britain faces is Islamophobia. Therefore, he's not willing to go after the grooming gangs or any of the bad actors who have immigrated illegally into Europe, which I think is a pretty grave sight, especially in looking at it. It's a much smaller scale of what could happen here in. Even in America. Now, you were told that some people, as you just alluded to, told you to kind of, you know, stay in line. What specifically do you think they're referring to? Is it because of the color of your skin? They're telling you you have to act a certain way because you are black?
C
Well, mind you, when I would hear things like that, it would literally be at BLM rallies where I would hear things of that nature. So, like, when they started going on, I remember particularly Walnut Creek, California, there was a protest that I had went to, and it was a peaceful. And I had said to people from the jump, like, we are not about to go bust these windows. Please stop robbing the Nordstrom's here. It's my favorite Nordstrom. I was like, you guys need to behave yourselves if we're going to get our point across. We cannot be dangerous and violent and reckless. That's not how this works. And people were telling me that my focus was in the wrong place and that I need to stop worrying about the people who want to loot and riot and worry more about police being bad people. And I remember the point that absolutely fried my mind is our prot Suddenly, like, diverted off of the path, and they started going down to the highway and blocking off the interstate. And I'm a firm believer people have to get to work. People have babies that they need to give birth to. People have reasons to be on this highway. Why are you guys blocking the interstate? And I didn't go down to the interstate. And I kept telling people, like, you guys should not do this. And there was a guy, it was a white guy particularly. He started charging at the police officers that were on the interstate to try to combat this whole situation. And the police were begging him to stop coming forward, otherwise they were going to have to hurt him. And he was begging them to shoot him. So they shot him with a rubber bullet. Just barely grazed him, mind you. He saw that I watched this all play out in real time. He saw that there was blood. He laid on the ground, kind of did this a little bit so the blood would Drip. And then had his friend with a professional camera come and take a photo of him. And then after that, like an hour or two later, that photo was over all over the San Francisco Bay area of people saying it was a peaceful protest, yet the police chose violence.
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Yeah, I think when you have the opportunity or the ability to witness it in real life and you see it play out differently than what's being portrayed online, I would imagine that radicalizes you a bit. And so now I guess kind of being on the other side of the aisle, which I hate to make it sound partisan like that, because the reality is these issues, a lot of the issues that have become so divisive, at least in terms of elected representation and certainly how legacy media purports these things, they're really not having kind of been on both sides here. Where would you say you stand in the political aisle now?
C
I would say I am right of center. I'm a constitutional conservative, and I overall just want common sense. I'm not somebody that wants to see, you know, the left to be demoralized or stomp all over them. I want the best for all Americans in this country and I want to see us uniting. And I feel like the political horseshoe has changed so much between 2020 and now, where it's no longer just right versus left, it is extremism versus common sense. Moderates. I have a lot of people that follow me that are left of center, and it's because they also don't like what's happening on the left where they're trying to castrate children, but they also don't like what's happening on the far alt right where they're just, you know, conspiracy theorists that have absolutely lost their mind and want to blame Israel for the reason that they didn't have enough milk for their cereal that day. So it's like I try to align with the people that overall want the best for America. I'm about American interest, and that includes, again, every American that is legally here. That's who I want to protect. But I'm all about the Constitution and I am all about, you know, I want people to be able to do their thing. I say that my audience is the Beverly Hills conservative. Like, I'm not the most strict, authoritarian person on what you're able to do or what I believe that you should be allowed to do. I'm just all for God given rights and having common sense.
B
Who's your favorite member of Congress like, who do you feel like resonates most with you?
C
I love representative Anna Paulina Luna. She is iconic and legendary.
B
She really is. She has been fantastic. I mean, across the board. Even today, I think I'll see her on a lot of the Maha stuff. She has been just a fantastic leader. What about someone like Thomas Massie, who. He's a pretty principled constitutionalist. How do you feel about him?
C
You know, I haven't done as much of a deep dive on him as I need to. I know that he tends to be a really polarizing character, but I don't have too much of an opinion. I need to look more on him.
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Yeah, I know he's. Say what you will about him. I don't know if he's the best team player, but I brought him up because he does seem to be incredibly principled. Okay. You mentioned kind of some of the flack that you receive from the right. And I've talked about it on this show before and we were talking to it, talking about it prior to Click and record. Do you almost feel like there's a level of fatigue in the, again, I hate the word influencer, but in like, the influencer space, especially being a conservative influencer, like, do you feel a level of fatigue and just like, I'm tired. I'm tired of this.
C
I don't feel that we have a moment of peace.
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No peace.
C
Here's the thing. It's when you, when your side wins, because conservatives were winning, we were winning back. Culture Maga is hot. Like, you think back to 2024, everybody was locked in. We were finally getting people to be on the same page of, okay, we should not have men in the locker rooms. We should have strong borders. Everybody was getting aligned with, again, common sense policies that protected American interests. But once we won, it seemed like a lot of people, if we're just being real about it, a lot of people just needed to keep the rent paid, so they had to start finding new enemies. And because the left was so demoralized for so long, it's like the right just started imploding within on itself. And now it's like, I feel like we've been in a civil war when it comes to right wing commentators over the last two years. And a lot of it is because of bots. A lot of it is because of paid propaganda. And I feel like the people that are often getting paid or the people who are often getting accused of being the paid grifters, they're the ones that aren't even collecting the check. It's the ones that are coming from, like, the Qatari influence which is actually documented and actually being showcased. It's like a lot of them tend to be dividing us on the right. And it's sad, too, because it's like our top leaders are all fighting each other within the conservative movement. This civil war that's been happening between, you know, Daily Wire and Candace and Tucker and Megan and everybody attacking each other. The person that we had, that was the glue that would have kept all of us, you know, more sane and able to actually have productive conversations. That was Charlie Kirk. And ever since Charlie Kirk has been murdered, I feel like the conservative movement has been really ghetto. It feels lawless. It feels like we don't have direction. I feel like I'm not even joking when I say the conservative movement feels like Haiti when Haiti lost their king. It's like there's no longer somebody that's, like, keeping us, you know, aligned and able to be civil. So now it's just. It's uncivilized.
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What do you think the future of the conservative movement is? Which, granted, I will say it's, like, nearly impossible to predict. I think a week in politics is equivalent to, like, two years in normal life. So it's impossible to predict. But do you think. Do you think, like, the whole MAGA movement dies when President Trump is out of office, or do you think we coalesce behind the next political leader? Is it another influential figure who's not elected? Obviously, we talked about Charlie Kirk, and I am, like, in full agreement with you. He really was like the connecting fiber coalition builder. I will never forget kind of watching the behind the scenes of the RNC of, I think, what July leading up to the election. This was right after President Trump had an assassination attempt, one of many at this point in Butler, Pennsylvania, on his life, watching the behind the scenes of Charlie coordinate. Some of the speakers who were there, one of those being Amber Rose, who I know you're friends with. He really was like, the connecting fibers. And the most amazing thing was he didn't want credit for it. So that's what I think. A lot of people who maybe didn't get to witness it up close and personal, you really didn't realize. But now we're all feeling the real effect of what this looks like. So what do you think the future is? I think especially going into 2026 and
C
2028, you know, my answer to that changes month over month. There is so much that's just left in the unknown at this point. I feel like we were going down the direction for a while where I was getting really scared about the state of the right, to be honest. We started seeing way too many people that should not be viewed as showcase. Like, there were way too many people, people who should not be viewed as the centerpiece of the right that were becoming way too popular way too quickly. You know who they are, like some of these more extreme people, like a Nick Fuentes, like a Dan Bilzerian. But what actually does give me some optimism is you have someone like Nick Fuentes finally admitting he's not even Republican, he's a Democrat. He is outwardly telling everyone now that he is a Democrat. And, you know, all of the fraud and the extremism and the hate that comes with him, that's going to, along with him across the horseshoe over to the radical left, then you have someone like Dan Bazerian. Dan and Nick are at a civil war now where they're attacking each other. So I think they're also starting to implode. A lot of these people that are just radically conspiratorial and crazy on the alt right, they have attacked each other so much that I think that they are starting to cancel each other out now. What is left in the unknown is what's going to come in these next few months. I mean, people were just talking again last week thinking that we're gonna have another pandemic. So it's like, you know, you never know what's going to happen that's gonna drastically change people's public perception. You know, the war has not been popular. I'm very in favor of the war, but hopefully, you know, once the war is wrapped up, we're able to get back into a position of not being on defense, but showcasing who's really on offense. We need to get back to reminding people we are not that far removed from Joe Biden's America. We are not that far removed from it being normalized. For men to be in the locker rooms, for us to not have borders. Like, we didn't even have any kind of border patrol for so long. We had millions of illegals coming into our country for so long, and we have shut that down. But instead of people celebrating that and being happy about that and focusing on that, they're instead focusing on attacking each other within the right about the most small things. But I don't know. I try not to be optimistic or pessimistic to go back to your initial question, because if you're pessimistic, optimistic, you won't do any work. If you're optimistic, you'll get too comfortable and not do any work. So I just try to be as real as possible and get things done.
B
You know, it's so true. And history has proven this to be true. Right. Where success, it breeds complacency and complacency breeds failure. It's the enemy to growth, it's the enemy to progress. And I think there is a level of complacency amongst the conservative movement. And I totally agree with you, too, about people like Nick Fuentes who are now coming out and saying, you know, I would never vote for President Trump or the like again. I'm voting for the Democratic Party to punish them. I've never understood. They oftentimes get labeled as far right, but I never really saw Nick Fuentes as far right. I think he's, like, been able to hide under the cloak of conservatism. I don't think he's a conservative really by any stretch of the imagination. Maybe on some of the cultural stuff that, again, 90% of people agree on. Sure, I guess. But I think he's been able to hide under that cloak for a long time. So to now see him saying it outright. I'm right there with you. One thing I want to ask you about before, there's several things I want to get to, but you say you're in support of the war. We see a lot of discourse online, especially from some of the people that we've already alluded to, we've already mentioned who are in opposition of the war and call President Trump horrible things because of it. Can you tell me why you are. I think this is good for my audience or my viewers to hear.
C
So the conversation begins with Islam. I will never miss an opportunity to remind people that when someone is screaming death to America, and we are constantly seeing death in America, maybe we should believe them. Okay. When it comes to the radical Islamic Brotherhood, they have been dead set on destroying Jews, Christians and all of Western society for literally over a thousand years. Since the beginning of Islam, they have been dedicated to trying to take us out. And I understand why certain people are, you know, concerned and jaded, especially if they're, you know, an older generation than us. No shade. If they were, you know, older and watching everything that happened with nine, eleven and Afghanistan, and they don't want to be in another forever war, I can understand why they are concerned about that. However, those concerns are completely divorced from reality. Everything that we have done so far in this current way war, it is as opposite as the Afghanistan situation as it possibly could be. We are getting more transparency. We're Very efficient. We're not putting boots on the ground and just invading every single Middle Eastern country. We are getting in, we are neutralizing the threat, and then we are getting out. We already know that in Iran, the Iranian regime was building nukes that were 100ft underground. Why else would they be under there if they weren't trying to build their weaponry? And they, again, have told us so many times about what they're intending tensions are. And we've seen the way that they have wreaked havoc on every single ally of ours, not even just Israel, but all over Europe. So we have to get really serious about neutralizing this threat. And when people bring up the fact that, oh, well, they've been saying every few years that Iran is a couple weeks away from building nukes, that's because every time we stomp them out, they come back like roaches. Every time we neutralize the problem, they spin the block. So we have to spin the block. I describe fighting the Islamic terror situation is mowing the lawn. You have to mow the lawn every so often. Otherwise it's going to start growing again, the weeds are going to start growing again, and the extremism is going to come again. So we have to wipe that out before they come over here. And hopefully we are able to, you know, come up with some kind of regime change over there, that they're at least going to be Western friendly so that they're not being run by terrorists who want to take us out. We've already had 60,000 Islamic terrorist attacks since 9 11. How many more do you want before you realize we have to do something about this threat?
B
Yeah. And you've got to give it to President Trump. He continues to prove people wrong, whether it's international relations, whether it's the tariff conversation. You got to give it to him. He knows what he's doing. And, yeah, my husband, like I said, he, you know, Louis grew up in England, lived in Dubai, which is very Westernized, but lived in Kuwait and Malta. Spent time in the Middle east just with, I guess, his dad's work. But now, looking at the state of England, he actually calls it Englandistan. He's like, I'm so glad I'm not there. I'm so glad to be 4,000 miles separated from his home country, which is sad for him. He's like, look, I have so many people I love there, my friends and my family. He says, it has become so radicalized by that sort of influence. So I'm right there with you.
C
And speaking of Dubai, it's like the UAE themselves, they spoke out and they started putting restrictions on their students going to school in England because they know that if they send their students, their Arab students over to the UK for their higher education, there is a good chance they're going to be radicalized by Islam. So if the UAE is saying that, why are Americans here not understanding it? I think too many Americans have such a westernized perspective of the world. They don't understand that in the east they actually want to wipe us out and they are actually willing to kill themselves in order to kill us. So we have to take that seriously. Especially as we're seeing Iran partner up with more of our enemies. You're seeing radical Islam partner up with all these Marxists and communists. You see them in Cuba, you see them in Venezuela, you see them in Colombia and they are taking over all the country communism there and partnering up to trade anti American secrets. And they also, Iran also just did a 25 year deal with China in exchange for cheap oil and they're exchanging military training and anti western secrets. And we've been in a secret war with China for years now, if not decades at this point where they are beating us. It's called the art of war, you know, the war of deception. They are, they are fighting us in a war without firing a single bullet. So China is still the enemy, Islam is the enemy. And communism and Marxism are certainly the enemy.
B
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C
You know, when it comes to the political commentary, influencer, creator, space, whatever you want to call it, I think that more people just need to make sure that they have other aspects of their brand that connects them to people. So, like with me, I started. When I first started making content, I only talked about politics. And then I realized I was like, okay, if I want people to understand that I'm a sane person and I'm a person that is actually a human in America that wants America to be real, I started talking about the other things that I'm passionate about outside of just politics. So I would start talking about, you know, pop culture. I started talking about, you know, certain sports thing, fashion things, travel things, you know, being bougie and then doing all so with a layer of comedy, because I feel like comedy is the best way that you can try to reach across the aisle and try to get people to understand your point without them getting triggered and offended and wanting to cancel you. And because I'm somebody that was over on the left for so long, I know what clicks for the left. I know what is. I know what the trigger words are that the left is automatically going to stop listening to you. So, like when I created my Walk with Me series, for example, I created that with a very particular purpose where I wanted to Win over Los Angeles audiences. And I wanted to be the most over the top obnoxious LA influencer ever. With the $25 smoothie and the headphones on and the hypebeast athleisure clothing on, I was like, I am going to do everything cliche and everything about it is going to make you think. When you open this video, I'm about to go on some woke liberal rant, but I'm talking about conservative values. But from a stance of this is common sense, this is what we all all agree upon behind closed doors and at the dinner table. But when you just put it out there while sassily walking and sipping a smoothie, it's like people tend to, you know, gravitate towards it more and start to ask themselves more questions. So that's what I try to do. And I think there's a lot. There are some really talented creators out there. I just think that they need to make sure that they don't get too boxed into the X atmosphere, that they start losing track on how to relate to humans that are absorbed into politics all the time. Because this space can really make you lose your mind. You really can get demoralized quickly, lose passion quickly, and just lose the plot if all you're doing is constantly consuming political content. So you have to have other hobbies and passions and interests. And showcasing that on your platform definitely will help as well.
B
Yeah. And I think when you do that, it allows you to show up to the political space with more, I guess, umph, and kind of like fire under you. Otherwise. I agree with you. What about you mentioned being in la? What's the current state of things there in terms of like the homelessness, the drug problems, the poverty, the high prices? What do things look like currently? Because we see things online, but you
C
live there, so LA currently looks like the purgatory on the way to hell. It's pretty bad. I luckily do not leave my little areas. I know exactly where to go and where not to go. So I do love living in LA. I just don't visit 95% of LA because it's so bad. And it's way more profitable to pretend to fight an issue than to actually fight an issue. So the homeless crisis keeps getting worse because they keep getting billions of of more dollars to pretend to fight it. And what's wild about it is most of the shelters are empty. Most of the shelters have plenty of beds, plenty of room, plenty of food, but they're constantly incentivizing the homeless people to stay on drugs and to stay on the streets because that's how the benefits just keep cycling for everyone. They get to keep their drugs, they don't have to go to rehab, and the homeless shelters keep getting more money without actually having to do any work. And then, you know, everything with the Palisades, it took so long for them to start acknowledging the fact that this was arson. I knew from the day it was happening that it was arson because I had multiple friends calling me, telling me that they saw a gang of people on motorcycles going around starting these fires. But for so long they didn't want to acknowledge it, just like they didn't want to take accountability for the fact that there was no water in the fire hydrants. So there's all these different things happening. The, the crime is egregious. You know, you can't drive anywhere. I have rules where if there's not a secured parking garage or valet, I refuse to drive there in la, it's that bad. So I'm very disgusted by how bad Karen Bass has allowed this city to get. And I'm so happy that someone like Spencer Pratt is jumping into this race because, you know, he's somebody that didn't necessarily want to be a career politician. He would have been very happy sitting on his million and chillin for the rest of his life. But instead he is somebody that is in this for the love of the city and the love of the game. He is someone that actually wants to come and change and expose this fraud, bring some transparency to L A and make LA cool again. Everybody that's here, that's been here for more than, I would say five years, at least four years, they are on the same page of. We want to see LA have its golden era back. We want to see the movie industry coming back because LA is even losing the film industry because it's like Atlanta. Yeah, it's going to Atlanta and New Orleans and all these different places and all of our major events are going to Vegas because it's too expensive to have a business here. And this is largely Gavin Newsom's problem too. He's making it to where it's impossible to have a thriving business. So many of my favorite places that I would go to in la since I've been here, and I've only been here three and a half years, they have been shut down. And it's crazy because they have booming business. Every single time I'm in these vicinities in these places, it is packed wall to wall and they still can't be profitable because they're dealing with so much crime, so much taxation, and then so much constantly, you know, so much constant new regulation that it's just made the city impossible to thrive in. So we definitely need change and we need it now.
B
Yeah, I'm super excited for Spencer Pratt. You said it. But oftentimes, those who don't want to be politicians make the best politicians. Did not stop Magic Johnson from endorsing, I believe, as most people would, the worst candidate in the race. Let's watch this video really quick, because
D
I'm supporting Mayor Bass. First of all, I go back with her probably 30 years. Years. She sustained the first ever consecutive decrease in homelessness. Homicide rate is down. New housing units, 40,000. I mean, she's doing a tremendous job. Mayor Bass has to have a second term.
C
And I'm excited to say that.
E
All right,
D
the mayor. Well, you know, listen, you took on a tough job here, and you've done a fabulous job. And all of us appreciate you doing, and we look forward to helping you continue your mission and the things that you have in store, your vision for the city. And I'm on board. You just tell me what I need to do.
E
Well, you know what, men, Magic, you are so important to Los Angeles. When people think of Los Angeles, they think of Magic Johnson. You are such a bright light to our city. You always stood with me. We have stood together accomplishing great things for Los Angeles. And I look forward to all that we can do.
C
Well, thank you.
D
Creating jobs for the people here in Los Angeles. That's what she's doing. Amazing.
B
Tremendous job. Those types of videos just seem so manufactured. Right? Obviously, she's standing just barely out of frame. She walks in Magic Johnson's like, oh, man, how'd you get here? What do you make of this?
C
Magic Johnson blinked twice. Yeah, blink twice. Because I just know Karen Bass was behind that camera, like, holding the.
B
Yeah.
C
Holding the gun. Being like, endorse me or else. You know, here's the thing. Because how you know Magic Johnson is lying is because. Because nobody that is self respecting and having an honest conversation is ever going to say that there has been improvement in the homeless crisis here. No matter how far left you are. There is not a single person I know in la. Even my most liberal friends would say that to brag about Karen Bassett's treatment of the homeless crisis is insane. Or to talk about housing or any of that overall, that is absolutely moronic. But, you know, can I say something? Is this a safe space? Really?
B
Come on.
C
Isn't Magic Johnson the same person that got magically healed from HIV back in the 90s. If we're going to have an honest conversation, and I'm not trying to put my tinfoil hat on, but I'm just saying I have a hunch that whatever kind of deal he did behind the scenes with this remedy, this cure that nobody else can access, they probably have him on a leash for the rest of this man's life. If we're going to keep it all the way 1000, if we're going to keep it all the way real, he has some secrets that he knows that they know that they need to make sure that. Or that he knows that he needs to stay in the good graces of these people, of the powers that be. Because if there's one person in Los Angeles that I know is probably a part of some of these corrupt elite circles that people talk about, it's for sure Karen Bass. And you know, also, when it comes to Magic Johnson, it's so disappointing to see him be like this because I actually just ran into him@air1 and this
B
guy, like the most LA thing ever.
C
Yeah, literally, I ran into him at the Studio City, Air1. And I know that he has partnered with lots of conservative organizations behind the scenes. So I know he has more common sense than to go on camera and act like he supports Karen Bass unless he actually was forced to. There is no doubt in my mind that he was forced to make this endorsement in one way or another. They have some kind of stronghold on him. And I'm a firm believer too, that you can tell a lot about a man by the way his children are. And if you look at his son, his son E.J. is 7ft tall, 300 pounds, dressed in a dress and looking a mess, looking chopped all the time. I mean, the fashion would be great on a woman that wasn't, you know, 7ft tall, you know, a real actual woman. But E.J. johnson is a ginormous behemoth and is constantly saying that he is a better woman than any woman. He was looking at the the Met gal addresses, saying that he would have a better dress than any of the girls. He's constantly belittling women and saying that he does a better job at being one than them. It's like, if you were doing a better job at being a woman than them, why are you a 7ft tall, 300 pound man?
B
Tell me what they really are. They're so regressive in the name of being progressive and they're so misogynistic in the name of, like, Feminism, it really doesn't make sense and it shows you how hypocritical their stances really are. And I love a good conspiracy theory about Magic Johnson. I'm gonna need to look into that one. I've been trying to be better about my routines lately, especially sleep. And one thing I did not realize is what you sleep in actually matters to how refreshed you feel in the morning. And I will tell you my secret. I started using Cozy Earth and it's one of those things that you feel and you reap the benefits of immediately. Their comforter is super lightweight, but it still feels like you're actually supported. It's not too hot, it's not too heavy, which matters in those summer months. It is just really, really comfortable. Then their socks, it might sound stupid or it might sound pretty small, but I'm telling you, it's that kind of detail that feels intentional that changes your entire day. They are soft, they are breathable, and they actually stay in place all day. You can try it risk free. They have a 100 night sleep trial plus a 10 year warranty, which tells you a lot about how much they believe in their product. If you want to upgrade your sleep or honestly just feel a little more comfortable in your everyday Life, go to cozyearth.com you can use my code. Gaines, G A I N E S for 20% off. And if you take the post purchase survey, make sure you tell them that you heard about them from the Riley Gaines show. Okay, I want to finish with this. I have a list of names and I'm going to rapid fire them at you and I want you to just tell me first word that comes to mind.
C
Oh, wow. I know.
B
You tell me when you're ready.
C
Okay, I'm locked in.
B
All right. Beyonce.
C
Tragic.
B
Tragic. Jay Z at that point then.
C
Come on, Jay Z. If I can make this all in one word, ultimately go into hell.
B
No spaces, no pause.
C
No pause. G. One more time.
B
Fauci. Anthony Fauci.
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Criminal.
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RFK
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Junior.
B
Mm.
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Strong.
B
Okay. Alex Cooper.
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Wench.
B
Alex Earle.
C
Skinny, skinny.
B
That's so real. I am definitely team Alex Earl though, same. I actually like her. Actually enjoy her content. There very few, I think, especially outside of the political realm, influencers that I enjoy watching, but she seems like she keeps it pretty real, so. I like her.
C
She's based. I've never met her, but I have a good amount of mutuals with her. She's based. She gets it.
B
See, I kind of get that vibe from her. I do.
C
Yeah.
B
Michael Jackson.
C
Legend.
B
Oh, I'm so glad you said that. I am like, the biggest. Michael Jackson. Stanley. Nicki Minaj.
C
Queen.
B
Cardi B. Roach. Megan Thee, Stallion, alcoholic. Fetterman,
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poorly dressed.
B
That's it. Sydney Sweeney, bombshell. Barron Trump, the future Justin Bieber.
C
Two words, but deserves better.
B
That's it. Jennifer Welch.
E
Who?
B
That was so good. That was the best word you could have said for her. Although winch, what you said for. I think it was Alex Cooper. That would work as well. Katie Porter,
C
insane.
B
Have you seen. I guess they're trying to. The new ad that she did, because all of that, the horrible things, really profane things came out about her leading up to her gubernatorial, I guess, dropping her name in the hat. The people in the back of her shot, well, they're now trying to make this new commercial, this new ad where at the back, at the end of the commercial, she's laughing and she's like, oh, hey, get out of my shot. It's like, ma', am, you're not funny. All of your staff alleges abuse against them. Okay, so California is in deep. If she wins, I believe she is so aggressive.
C
I'm actually terrified of that woman. And it's like, do we even have to say alleged at this point? We've seen her verbally abuse, at the very least, so much of her staff. And for her to try to, like, downplay that as if that's not something to be concerned about. It's like, you are completely emotionally driven and so unprofessional that you're willing to just lash out at people like this. It's like, I genuinely feel like she would just abuse her power the second that she gets in. I'm all for a strong leader. I don't need someone that's gonna be soft. I don't need someone that's gonna be, you know, cozy to everybody around them. I mean, Trump says some things that aren't the nicest about people. It's like, it's not even about that. It's more just about like, who are you and your character? And I feel like Katie Porter is just a dangerously aggressive human being, and her being in that position of power, we're all cooked.
B
That's it. Well, I so appreciate you, Xavier. Tell us how we can support you, what your next thing is, and where we can follow you.
C
Well, thank you for having me. I'm on all social media platforms, Xavier, except for X. I'm Xavier D. It's a regular spelling X, A, V, I, A, E, R. You can check me out on YouTube. For my podcast. Respectfully, Xavier, Love it.
B
Well, you rock and we're so grateful for you.
C
Likewise. Thanks for having me.
B
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Episode: He Tried to Debunk Conservatives. Then He Switched Sides ft. Xaviaer DuRousseau
Date: May 12, 2026
Host: Riley Gaines
Guest: Xaviaer DuRousseau
This episode features an in-depth conversation between Riley Gaines and Xaviaer DuRousseau, CEO of “Walk With Me,” who shares his journey from a BLM activist with Marxist upbringing to a prominent center-right commentator. They discuss cultural shifts, political realignment, issues within activist movements, the state of Los Angeles, foreign policy, and the importance of common sense and humor in political discourse.
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Party Switch Myth:
Current Struggles:
Future Direction:
On LA:
Critique of Karen Bass & Magic Johnson Endorsement:
Role of Comedy:
Advice to Influencers:
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 01:41 | Xaviaer | “I accidentally debunked myself instead and backed out of the show.” | | 02:58 | Xaviaer | “Socialism has literally never worked. BLM has always been a scam, and the Democratic Party has always been the party of racism and violence.” | | 06:14 | Xaviaer | “Whenever I called it out, I was told that I needed to stay in line or that I was losing the plot.” | | 08:28 | Xaviaer | “The supply for racism was not reaching the demand. So they had to overexpose these different groups...” | | 12:14 | Xaviaer | “I'm a constitutional conservative... I want the best for all Americans in this country and I want to see us uniting. ...It's no longer just right versus left, it is extremism versus common sense.” | | 15:13 | Xaviaer | “I feel like we've been in a civil war when it comes to right wing commentators...” | | 16:13 | Xaviaer | “Ever since Charlie Kirk has been murdered, I feel like the conservative movement has been really ghetto. It feels lawless.” | | 21:45 | Xaviaer | “When someone is screaming 'death to America,' and we are constantly seeing death in America, maybe we should believe them.” | | 22:36 | Xaviaer | “We're Very efficient... We're not putting boots on the ground and just invading every single Middle Eastern country.” | | 28:33 | Xaviaer | “Comedy is the best way... to get people to understand your point without them getting triggered and offended.” | | 31:32 | Xaviaer | “LA currently looks like the purgatory on the way to hell.” | | 33:57 | Xaviaer | “He is someone that actually wants... to bring some transparency to LA and make LA cool again.” | | 36:31 | Xaviaer | “Magic Johnson blinked twice... I just know Karen Bass was behind that camera, holding the gun. Endorse me or else.” |
(Time: 41:04–44:35)
This episode provides a candid, fast-paced discussion covering personal transformation, the complex landscape of modern activism and conservatism, U.S. cities’ urban decline, foreign threats, and the role of humor and relatability in influencing others. Xaviaer blends sharp critique with humor, often using lively and unfiltered language to punctuate points. The conversation is energetic, unapologetically opinionated, and laced with personal stories, making it a prime example of the unique tone and perspective that defines The Riley Gaines Show.
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