Nick Shirley: The CA Voter Fraud Files | The Riley Gaines Show

Summary

The Riley Gaines Show — Nick Shirley: The CA Voter Fraud Files
Episode Date: February 25, 2026
Host: Riley Gaines
Guest: Nick Shirley

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Overview

This episode of The Riley Gaines Show features investigative journalist Nick Shirley discussing his recent exposé into voter fraud in California. Building on his prior work in Minnesota, which had significant political consequences, Shirley details widespread administrative vulnerabilities, surprising loopholes, and personal encounters that highlight challenges in election integrity. Riley and Nick break down the impact of investigative journalism in driving accountability, share memorable investigative moments, and stress the nonpartisan importance of fair elections.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Impact of Nick Shirley’s Work in Minnesota

[04:28]

• Shirley’s initial exposé in Minnesota led to major political fallout, including the end of Gov. Tim Walz’s reelection campaign.
  • Shirley: “He obviously knows he was caught red handed… so he’s dropped out from running for reelection. If he didn’t have anything to do with the fraud, he would have probably kept running.” [04:38]
• Ongoing investigations and arrests are underway for fraudulent activity, especially with daycare funding.
• Shirley expects further accountability as evidence and prosecutions progress.

2. Motivations & Methods for Investigating California

[06:23]

• Shirley moved to examine California’s “breeding ground” for voter fraud, focusing on its lack of voter ID requirements and problematic voter rolls.
  • Describes firsthand interactions with a Registrar of Voters in San Diego who explained that voting relies mainly on personal affidavit and signature matching, with minimal safeguards.
    • Registrar: “When you affidavit, you’re swearing that you’re telling us the truth, and we compare the signature” [07:35]

3. Examples of Voting System Irregularities

[09:09–11:47]

• The ease of registering and voting without proper ID, raising the potential for abuse by non-citizens and ineligible individuals.
• Specific cases cited:
  • A dog registered to vote: Successfully completed ballots in two elections before its owner confessed (done as a protest).
    • Shirley: “A being that doesn’t even have a human body was able to vote…” [11:01]
  • Over 30 people registered at a single UPS store address.
  • One house (an alumni building at a university) had 108 voters registered, despite no residents.
  • Individuals registered as 125 years old (actually 80), voting dozens of times.

4. Public & Official Reception

[14:52–16:56]

• Criticisms about “cherry-picking” cases addressed: Shirley posts full, unedited footage, showing both regular and irregular situations.
  • “Everything you see for me is what you get.” [15:45]
• State officials often attempt to dismiss Shirley’s findings; a notable example is Gov. Newsom’s press team labeling him “Slow Shirley” to discredit his reports.
  • Shirley would challenge these critics to visit sites with him to see evidence firsthand, such as the case of a supposedly 125-year-old voter. [18:15]

5. Election Integrity as a Nonpartisan Issue

[11:47]

• Emphasis that fraud hurts all, regardless of party. Exposé cases implicate both Republicans and Democrats.
  • Shirley: “It’s not a Republican or Democrat issue. It’s like... we’re all dealing with this.” [11:47]
• Public often reacts defensively, with some accusing Shirley of pushing a “MAGA storyline.” He insists the facts are nonpartisan.

6. Vetting Whistleblowers & Handling Criticism

[14:16]

• Whistleblowers are carefully vetted; information is cross-referenced with official state data and records requests.
• Criticism and obstacles arise during fieldwork, including being blocked from certain locations.

7. Threats, Security, and Personal Costs

[21:06, 29:44]

• Shirley faces increased recognition; sometimes heckled or barred from investigation sites.
• He now requires security for safety, especially in volatile urban environments.
  • “These people just start running like cockroaches... they see me and they're getting in their cars and they're fleeing the scene.” [22:06]

8. More Than Elections: Broader California Frauds

[22:17]

• Shirley touches on expanding his investigations into Medi-Cal (California’s Medicaid), noting massive annual budget increases without a correlating rise in population.
• On Skid Row, he exposed nonprofit fraud: millions are spent, yet a 12-year-old lived unsheltered for days.
  • Shirley: “A 12 year old sleeping out where people openly get raped at night, people get robbed, people get assaulted… that’s a big issue.” [23:13]
• Shirley’s intervention led to direct aid for the child and outpouring of support.

9. Policy Solutions & The SAVE Act

[25:45]

• Both host and guest support the SAVE Act: requiring voter ID nationwide.
  • Shirley: “How can somebody be against that? You literally have to get an ID for everything else… Why shouldn’t you have to do it for one of the most important things inside of our Government?” [25:56]
• They question the rationale for resisting voter ID and anticipate election impact if strict requirements are implemented.

10. Final Messages on Unity and Urgency

[28:36]

• Reporter and host underline that fraud is not a right-left issue—money lost and votes diluted affect everyone.
  • Shirley: “If you’re a Democrat, you should want to see less fraud... If you’re a Republican, you should want to see less fraud as well.” [28:38]
• Shirley hopes his work will push politicians to openly recognize and address documented fraud ahead of the next election.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I wasn’t expecting to upload the most viral video in the past few years on the Internet.” — Nick Shirley [04:38]
• “[The Registrar said:] ‘Why would anyone not say who they really are?’…they’re pretty much going off of good faith.” — Nick Shirley [09:59]
• “A dog got registered to vote… She did it to show how easy it is… and the fact that a dog was somehow registered… A being that doesn’t even have a human body, was able to vote.” — Nick Shirley [10:47–11:01]
• “Everything you see for me is what you get.” — Nick Shirley [15:45]
• “These people just start running like cockroaches…they see me and they're getting in their cars and they're fleeing the scene.” — Nick Shirley [22:06]
• “How can somebody be against [the SAVE Act]? It’s so simple… Why shouldn’t you have to do it for the most important things inside of our Government...?” — Nick Shirley [25:56]
• “If you’re a Democrat, you want to see less fraud… And if you’re a Republican, you should want to see less fraud as well. People have somehow made fraud controversial.” — Nick Shirley [28:38]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |---------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | 04:28 | Shirley on the political fallout in Minnesota | | 06:23 | Motivation for investigating California’s voting systems | | 07:32–10:47 | Interview with Registrar; voting with no ID; the “voting dog” case | | 11:47 | Nonpartisan nature of voter fraud | | 12:38 | Street interviews; perceptions of voter ID and political defensiveness| | 15:57 | 108 people registered at one address | | 18:15 | Challenge to Gov. Newsom’s office; 125-year-old voter case | | 22:17 | Upcoming Medi-Cal fraud exposé | | 23:11 | Skid Row: aid to a homeless 12-year-old | | 25:45 | The SAVE Act—national voter ID debate | | 28:36 | Shirley’s hopes for nonpartisan recognition of fraud | | 29:44 | Security threats and personal safety |

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Conclusion

Nick Shirley’s investigation into California’s voting system paints a picture of lax controls, systemic irregularities, and missed opportunities for oversight. Beyond political wins or losses, both Shirley and Riley Gaines emphasize the urgent, universal need for transparency and accountability in elections and government spending. The conversation is marked by real-life examples, direct interactions with officials and citizens, and a plea for unity on issues of fraud. Shirley’s personal courage and commitment, even in the face of threats and criticism, round out a compelling episode for anyone interested in the mechanics and vulnerabilities of democracy.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the Riley Gaines Show. If you're [e-mail], which I hope you are, you can see that I am not in my home studio, back on the road, speaking at all sorts of different campuses, high schools and colleges all across the country. So that's what we're doing today, back in the home studio on Friday. I am so excited for today's guest. We've had him on before. Actually. He was the first guest on the Riley Gaines Show. The inaugural episode was with Nick. Surely excited to talk about that. But before we do, I want to tell you about today's sponsor, really what I want to do today. And talking about why Refi is mentioning a college success story Spotlight, which is presented by Y Refi. Today's spotlight, it is on Ella Brissett. She is a tennis champion at Claremont Mud Scripps, who was recently honored with the 2026 NCAA Impact Award. Now, I think the amazing thing about Ella is that she's not just a two time All American. Uh, she's a leader who founded a club on her campus to empower the next generation of girls in sports while managing the heavy workload of a biology degree. I love Ella's story because it perfectly illustrates the balance of college student life while being a high performing athlete. Something I at one point knew very well in my life. Uh, she's winning national titles, but she's also focused on her future as a physician and helping her community. Uh, why Refi? We talk about them all the time. They understand that your life is about more than just a balance on a screen. It's about your family and your future. They help you manage your debt so you can focus on what actually matters. So congratulations to Ella on being a true leader both on and off the court. As I said, we had Nick Shirley on for the first episode. Now, what he talked about in that expose and what he highlighted on the Riley Gaines show regarding the state of Minnesota and the fraud that's happening there resulted in the end of Tim Waltz's political career. Can he have the same success in the state of California that was where he went following Minnesota. I don't think it's a shock to many of us that California is really a breeding ground for voter fraud in America as well as homelessness, crime. You can keep going. That's why people from California are fleeing their state and moving to my state states like Tennessee. And it's so funny when you meet someone in the streets of Tennessee and they say, you know, I'm from California, they immediately follow it up with, well, I'm not like them. I'm a political refugee. That's literally what they call themselves. But he went to California, Nick Shirley did. And what he found is, is shocking. Millions of people who are voting with no id, month long election process, inaccurate voter rolls, dead people who have been caught voting. Even a dog was successfully registered to vote. Excited to break down all of this and more on today's episode. Stay tuned to this interview with Nick Shirley. Well, Nick, thanks for joining the Riley Gaines Show. It's kind of funny seeing you in a, a suit and tie. I'm used to seeing you like in a T shirt on a street corner in like Minnesota or California. But tonight actually you're attending the State of the Union. I guess my first question before we get into this California expose. When you were working on all those little videos in your room that you would post to YouTube, did you ever imagine that here you would be in a suit and tie and I guess having a seat in the Capitol building.

[C]

Great question. I mean, you never fully can imagine it. You always like envisioned it in a way. But to see it come to fruition is pretty cool.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, it is. It's remarkable. I think you'll see tonight the State of the Union, just the energy and the patriotism that's there. You'll see a lot of theatrics. I imagine last time you have Al Green who's like waving his cane. So I'll be interested to see some of those clips that surface. I want to start with number one, the result that we saw from your Minnesota expose. Were you shocked to see that pretty much ended the political career of Governor Tim Walls?

[C]

I was shocked to see how easy he folded. I was not shocked by the impact the video had. How big of an impact it did have. A little bit. Because, I mean, I wasn't expecting to upload the most viral video in the past few years on the Internet. But I mean, Tim Waltes, he obviously knows that he was kind of caught red handed. Not kind of, he was caught red handed. So therefore he is dropped out for running for reelection. If he didn't have anything to do with the fraud. He would have probably kept running. And so I was super happy to see the impact of the videos had.

[B]

Now in terms of the response and the accountability that we have seen since, both from the state government, local government to Minneapolis, but even the federal government, what has that looked like? Where do things stand? Can we expect people to be held accountable?

[C]

Yeah, I think we can. And you recently just saw one of the ladies who was in the. She was not in the video. Her daycare was in the video. She was the owner of the daycare that was receiving the most amount of money from the CCAP funding. Fundings. She tried to flee the country on a one way ticket to London. She got caught and now she's been arrested and she was one of the, she, she had one of these daycares and she was caught for fraud with feeding our future. And so her daycare is one of those. And so I think after, after her we're going to start seeing more and more people get arrested and prosecutions take a while. There's ongoing investigations and I think it's just a matter of time and before you start seeing more and more people get held accountable for the crimes they committed.

[B]

Yeah, I hope so. It's exactly what the American people voted for was that sort of accountability and transparency. Now, as I have alluded to and as I would imagine many people have seen online, you exp a different kind of fraud in California. Before we talk about that, I want to know what made you go to California to look into voter fraud?

[C]

Yeah, right now we know that voter ID is a big issue. So I really wanted to show people how easy it would be to not not only rig an election but to just let anybody vote. I mean I went straight to the registrar of voters there and I asked her what would it take to vote? And she said, well you signed this and, and you just pretty much need to present your own name. I said well what if somebody wanted to go and say they were so and so and they actually weren't. She's like, well why would they do that? That'd be lying. But the fact that anyone could just go and lie is showing how easy it would be to vote on behalf of somebody else. And there's lots of locations as well that have a ton of people registered to vote and some of them are UPS stores. Other other others are these colleges that have 50 people registered at a college university where there should be thousands of people registered. So there's a lot of these irregularities within their voter rolls. That would be very much solved if people just had to present their own IDs.

[B]

Yeah, talk about that. We're going to insert a clip and post of the woman you're referring to.

[D]

I was curious how come in California you don't need voter ID to vote?

[E]

Because when you affidavit, you're swearing that you're telling us the truth, and we compare the signature that you put on your application battery.

[C]

65%. Do you think it leaves any room for error with voter ID or. Yeah, I'm just, like, curious, because I

[D]

want to make sure that, like, our elections are as fair and honest as possible. And I feel like voter ID is just something super simple to have.

[C]

And do you think it's possible, like,

[D]

illegal migrants could be voting?

[B]

Not really. How?

[E]

I mean, what's showing their id?

[D]

Yeah, if they don't have their ID and they could just sign on behalf

[C]

of Richard Sherman, then they could technically vote, right? Yeah.

[D]

But what if they just don't care?

[C]

What if, like, Richard Sherman and Billy

[D]

Bob Joe just don't care?

[C]

But.

[D]

So you don't think illegals would ever vote, would you?

[E]

I don't think so.

[B]

Do you think there was just a level of, like, naivety to her? Do you think that she was attempting to be political, politically corrupt? I was pretty amazed just how, I guess, gullible she was to believe that there aren't bad actors out there who would be intentional in some sort of fraud in the voting realm, like you, you exposed.

[C]

Yeah. And God bless this lady, because she's just doing her job. Right. It's not her responsibility for what's happening in California, but it just goes to show how easy it would be for anyone to vote. I mean, somebody reached out to me after I post that video, and they're like, I actually am a Canadian, and I came down to California to vote just to show you how easy it was.

[B]

Dang, that's wild. And so talk about that. Like, you. You showed up to a desk. What. What was the setting? Who. What was this job? Where were you?

[C]

It's the Registrar of Voters in San Diego. So it's the place you go to register.

[B]

And you just showed up and had absolutely no problem in saying, I would like to. I mean, what are. What are kind of the prerequisites of voting? And she had nothing to give you?

[C]

Yeah, I just said, like, how does it work with that id? I feel like that's probably pretty common sense to have an ID when you go up and vote. And she said, well, you signed your signature, and then we scanned the signature. And why would. Why would anyone not say who they really are? And that's pretty. They're pretty much going off of good faith. But when we know that millions of illegal migrants have gone into a state like California, I think you should be like, okay, maybe let's like, certify that this person's really them and not just based off the slant of a signature that's going to get scanned in with millions of other signatures. I mean, a dog got registered to vote and successfully voted in two elections before the lady turned herself in.

[B]

Talk about how you found out about the dog. That was something that was so wild to me and watching your video.

[C]

Yeah. So a dog got registered to vote. A lady did it. She was actually Republican. She did it to show how easy it is to register and how easy it would be to vote. So she successfully voted in 2021. And she voted in 2022. The. I think the ballot got sent back to her. And it's funny watching people try to defend this dog on the Internet. And the fact is that whether this person was a Republican or Democrat, it doesn't matter. It's the fact that a dog was somehow registered to vote in an election in the United States. Somebody, something, a being that doesn't even have a human body, was able to vote well.

[B]

And that's what I think is so amazing about the exposes that you've done, is it's not just necessarily exposing Democrats, which, yes, of course, that has been, you know, the crux of it. But in this, you've exposed Republicans too. And you're just saying, look, I don't care who it is committing fraud, voter fraud, or whatever other fraud there is, that it doesn't matter. It affects everyone.

[C]

Exactly. And it's so funny to watch people come out and defend some of these things that they're defending, whether it be the dog or whether it be the daycares they're stealing and they're corrupting. Not just they're corrupting society. It's not a Republican or Democrat issue. It's like we're all dealing with this.

[B]

Yeah. And you talk about, you know, obviously needing an id. We have this whole ID paradox. You need an ID to go to the liquor store. Or even as mom Donnie has proven to shovel snow in New York City, yet they fight for voting, saying that it's racist. When you point out that hypocrisy to people on the street, do you ever have this kind of light bulb moment, or is it Always just people getting angry. Because I saw one interaction you had with a woman who said, look, I don't want to be. When she realized, you know, the line of questioning, she said, look, I don't want to be a part of your, your MAGA movement.

[D]

What do you think about over 30 people are registered to vote in this

[C]

UPS store right here.

[D]

Is that a little strange to you?

[B]

Is it through P.O. boxes? Yeah. I don't know what are you trying to do or what are you trying to prove?

[D]

Yes.

[F]

So you have to, you have to re register where you live, right where your primary residence is. And so if you've got a primary residence, that's a UPS store, I just, those are real tiny houses, you know, inside the UPS store for people to live in probably.

[B]

What's your guys affiliation?

[D]

My name is Nick Shirley. Could you live inside a P.O.

[C]

box?

[B]

No.

[D]

So do you think it's a little strange that here in California you have lots of people who are registered to vote from these PO boxes?

[C]

Meanwhile, you don't even have to show

[D]

your ID when you go and vote.

[B]

I don't want to be part of the whole MAGA storyline.

[C]

Thank you.

[D]

This isn't a MAGA storyline, man. This is just the straight up facts. Now we're going in.

[C]

Yeah, that's what they kind of deflect to is because they've made it like a Republican issue. But anybody should want to have open and fair elections. If you need an ID to go to the airport, whether to be shovel snow in New York City, to buy liquor, to even get some medicine over the counter inside the United States, you have to present your own id. And so it's not some wild idea for someone to present their own id. And really the only reason why someone would be against a person showing their ID when they go and vote is to vote on behalf of somebody else. I mean dead people are voting in California and that's been happening for years.

[B]

You worked with whistleblowers in both of these exposes in California and Minnesota. How do you vet them? That was a question I had initially. How do you, how did they come to you and how do you vet that? They're legit.

[C]

Yeah. So for these people, for instance, David in Minnesota, he had been working on this for years and when they come to me with information, I make sure that it's credible information because it comes from the state. For instance, David had a request that those numbers of the CCAP funding about the daycares, so that comes straight from the state. The man who I met up with in California. He had been requesting those, that information from the Secretary of state as well. And so he had the legitimate voter rules and that guy actually had even created his own way of going through and vetting all these. So he had dedicated the years of his life to examining these voter rolls in California.

[B]

Yeah, well, I think there were pivotal parts in the, these exposes. You've been, I guess critics will say that you're just cherry picking extreme cases. Can you walk us through some of the examples or situations that maybe you didn't necessarily get on film or highlight in these videos?

[C]

Yeah, well, everything I post is what I've seen. Like as far as, like, I guess

[B]

a better, I guess a better way to ask this is like how many houses did you knock on where everything was seemingly normal before you kind of hit that like red flag?

[C]

Well, that's the thing. What you see is what you get. So every, anytime I go out and film, I'll post the whole thing. That's why I'll post the lady who's getting mad at me for saying some MAGA storyline. Most people would cut that out because it might make the other person, it might make me look bad, but in reality I'm just showing people what it is for what it. For what it is. So everything you see for me is what you get.

[B]

We've got a clip here from your video where 108 people registered to vote in one house. Let's watch it really quick.

[F]

Do you know where, where the ballots might have gone? Like for 108 people, you know, that were registered.

[B]

Okay, 108 people in one house.

[C]

So that house was on a university. It was an alumni house. And so the issue with that is. Okay, well that house is registered at the university. It's said that it's alumni house. And actually nobody lives inside of that house. And whether it's the addresses to the university or to the house, it says the house on the voter rolls. But. Okay, well, let's say only 108 people are registered to vote at a university where there are thousands of people. Well, that's another large irregularity that needs to be looked at. And so there's these issues all across these voter rolls in California, for instance. And this could all be solved with presenting an id.

[B]

Have you had any response from election officials in the state of California or have you heard from from local citizens or even local politicians at the state level?

[C]

Yeah, for instance, in that video there was one location was a UPS store and 30 people were registered to vote there. And the issue with that, and it turns out I didn't know this beforehand because we had went there, and what people don't see is when I go film these videos, a lot of times people heckle you and you have to get out of these locations quick. So there's a apartment. There was an apartment as well that was above it. Well, either way, the person, they were registering themselves at a UPS box. It has to be their domicile address. And so that. That's a big issue, too. So you can't just register at a PO box to vote. It needs to be the address of your primary residence, which is your domicile location. Domicile address.

[B]

I've seen where Gavin Newsom, his office, I guess, has dismissed your work and has attempted to mudsling you, calling you names. The one that I've seen the most is Slow Shirley, which I don't even really know what he's attempting to get at there. I think it's very clear he wants you out of his state. If you could put a camera in front of the person who wrote that, I guess, message on Governor Newsom's press account and show them just one piece of footage from your trip, which one would you want to show?

[C]

Probably the fact that I would invite them. I did actually invite them. I said, let's work together. I would invite them to come with me and go to some of these locations and say, okay, let's justify this and let's see if you can justify it, because this is. We're just doing a public service for the people. I would take them to the location where 125 year olds are registered to vote, and then you go to the location of that person's home, and they're actually not 125 years old. I would take them to a location just like that so they can see with their own eyes, say, okay, look, we have issues in your voter rolls. This lady is actually 81 years old, and she's registered as 125 years old. That's something we should fix.

[D]

All right, so let's say he's named Virginia. She's 125 years old. She's voted over 55 times, and she's active. The voter rolls here in California. Let's see if she's home. Hi. How's it going, sir? Doing good?

[G]

No, I'm cooking.

[D]

Okay, well, I'll be quick. I'm just looking for Virginia. 125 years old.

[G]

125 years old?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

She's registered to vote at this location. Right here. Is Virginia here?

[B]

Yeah.

[G]

She ain't no 125 years old.

[D]

Really? How old is Virginia then?

[C]

Eighty.

[D]

Eighty. Well, here on the state of California, she's 125 years old and she's voted in 55 elections. Is there another Virginia?

[G]

No, not here.

[D]

Virginia.

[G]

Ten, four. Only one in the whole world.

[D]

Only one in the whole world. I hope she's voting good, because. So she's not 125.

[C]

No, no.

[B]

Now that you've kind of seen the mess in both Minnesota and California is one or the other state system, I guess, does it feel more vulnerable to you? Like, was it the administrative errors in California's voter rolls or the specific types of fraud you expose in Minnesota? Which one should have viewers or I guess voters more concerned about the upcoming election cycle?

[C]

Obviously California, because 1 in 6Americans live inside the state of California. And so just think about that. You have people who are 125 years old who don't even. Who are 80 years old registered as 125 years old. And they have no idea. And that's just not. That's just not a case of 100 people. That's thousands of people all across the state. And these people also, it says how many times they've. They've voted as well. And a lot of these people had no idea that they had voted in 55 elections or 50 elections. So I think that's something very. That's a big issue. And then obviously, like the fraud, because that's the money.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Has it become harder to do your job now that I believe you're incredibly recognizable, you have name recognition. Has that made it harder to do the job that you're attempting to do actually that you are successfully doing?

[C]

Yeah, it does. Like, for instance, at that UPS store in that video that went viral. I mean, right. We were there for like five minutes. The lady wouldn't even let me go into the UPS store because that lady who yelled, who, who got mad at me for saying, I don't want to hear a part of your mag storyline, she then goes into that building and says, don't let this kid come in. Don't let him talk to you. And so it really would have helped if the UPS store could have cleared up any, any information, but instead they won't even address you because people like that lady go in and they try to slander your name or make you look like you're somebody or not. When in reality, all I am doing is I'm trying to go and get the Truth from the source. These mainstream media, all these critics online, they never actually go to the source. They go to what the person on the Internet saying they don't actually don't go to the location. And so that does make it hard. And when I do go to a lot of places and I have to have security with me, you'll see in my next video where I go and confront some of these other fraudsters. These people just start running like cockroaches, like, I'm not joking, like they see me and they're getting in their cars and they're fleeing the scene. And so that's very interesting to see as well.

[B]

You talk about your next video. Is that still in California?

[C]

Yes, in California, if you just look at the Medi Cal, the budget that they have, which is their, their form of Medicaid inside of California just called Medi Cal, they have their budgets keep going up by the billions each and every single year. And there's not like an exponential increase in their population, but there's an exponential increase in their budget. And so you're seeing really big fraud in California with their healthcare system.

[B]

Not even just that. I saw a video of you on skid row and it was really remarkable and truthfully, just incredibly inspiring to see you approach a mom and her 12 year old son. Actually, will you kind of walk us through what you saw on skid Row and, and again, the corruption and the fraud that's happening even behind these homeless encampments in California?

[C]

Yes. So a place like Skid Row, there's tons of NGOs, nonprofits, and they receive millions of dollars every single year to help out the homeless. And so it's not a secret that there's people living on the streets there. I mean, anyone can go set up a tent. My issue was when I went down there, we had been there for an hour or so. My issue was when we found a 12 year old and the 12 year old had been there for a few days and, and whether the mom is, has some sort of responsibility for that child being in that situation or not, the fact is a 12 year old sleeping out, where people openly get raped at night, people get robbed, people get assaulted, people are selling drugs, a 12 year old's there for multiple days on end. Why can't they go in? And why is that kid not made a priority to make sure that he's not sleeping in that street? And why would it take a responsibility of me to go and make sure that kid's all right? And so that's kind of what made me upset when I was there is just the fact that, yeah, there's a 12 year old sleeping there. Whether it's whether his mom is complicit in that happening or not, someone needs to take responsibility. Especially when billions of dollars get sent to the homeless every single year and a 12 year old can't get put in the place to sleep at night. That's a big issue.

[B]

Yeah. And he also talked about how he wasn't even in school. And you think you're 12 years old, what you're probably like in sixth grade, maybe fifth grade, seventh grade, maybe. Those are critical periods of learning. And so to be homeless and not in school is a major problem. But then to see you step in and offer both him and his mom a hotel room and to follow up and to make sure that he is in school, just incredibly inspiring. And I think one of the things about that video that I saw as well was you have a 12 year old and then a fight breaks out, you know, not even 10ft away from where you and the little boy were stood. That's what he's being exposed to.

[C]

Exactly. And since I posted and shared that video, lots of people have donated, so they've been able to extend their stay at the hotel, but not just that, they've actually been able to get into a place where they can now sleep. So that kid should be going back to school in the next few days. And a lot of people reach out because they want to help the kid, because it's not, there's, it's not the fault of the kid that they're in that situation. Right. So that kid should be, no, there should be no judgment for him. And so I'm super happy that he's been able to get taken care of. And hopefully that inspires more people in more of these programs that receive millions of dollars to go and search for that next kid because there's a lot of them out there in the streets now.

[B]

What do you make of the SAVE Act? Is this something that, I mean, of course I believe needs to be done. Where are we kind of at in that process?

[C]

Yeah, that needs to get done. I'm interested to see what happens as far as if it gets passed and then it gets signed by the president. I mean, how can somebody be against that? It's so simple. Like we. It's not even a hard argument to win. I mean, literally you have to get an ID for everything else. Why shouldn't you have to do it for the most important things inside of our Government, especially in the federal election.

[B]

Do you feel like maybe, I guess, asking you this, since you've been the one on the ground, do you feel like voter fraud is really one of the only ways for Democrats to win?

[C]

Well, if you look at the states that Kamala won, they're all states that didn't require voter id.

[B]

That's a good point.

[C]

It will be very interesting when this gets passed, if it gets passed, to see what happens in the next election, to see the difference in the numbers. Because, I mean, you have literally people voting.

[B]

Elon Musk, of course, has been a big proponent of the SAVE Act. And I know when you were on the show the first time, I was asking you about, you know, what sort of communication have you guys had? I've seen, of course, where he's tweeted about you, about your work. I saw where he tweeted recently saying, you know, California does the most government fraud by far. Have you guys had any further communication at this point?

[C]

No, I have not. He does support on X. I mean, he'll sometimes. For instance, he was shocked that a dog was able to vote. So he re shared that. That a dog was able to vote, but just a huge shout out to him because he has all these businesses he's running, yet he's also fighting for our freedoms, whether it be free speech or the right to have an open and fair election. I mean, that man is doing a lot to help America and to help society all across the world. Just think about Starlink and the Internet that he provides to millions of people that would not even have it.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. No, he's. Even when we just had that big ice storm down in my home state of Tennessee in Nashville, he sent a bunch of those Starlinks over to help people without power. There were, I think, more than 100,000 homes without power for two weeks. And so critical. He really cares about the American people, as you do, of course. And so I guess, kind of final thoughts here as you sit in the Capitol this evening for the State of the Union. What is one, I guess, uncomfortable truth that you hope your work forces all of America's politicians to finally acknowledge before the next election?

[C]

Yeah. Imagine if President Trump says something about the fraud and everyone stood up, which won't happen. But I think it's so obvious that what we're doing is exposing fraud, and it's not a right or left issue. I mean, we're all trying to make America a better place. And so if you're a Democrat, you want to see less fraud. You should want to see less fraud. And if you're a Republican, you should want to see less fraud as well. So I think, especially on an issue of fraud, I think that's something that everyone should be able to come together for and not make it a race issue or not make it a Democrat or Republican issue. But I think that's something very easy to come together for. And people have somehow made fraud controversial.

[B]

Yeah, you would certainly think, because, look, it's not just Republicans money that's being used fraudulently. It's all of our money. And that should outrage every single person. And so, as I said when you came on the first time, God bless you. Thank you for doing what you're doing, for being willing to. Because it's scary when you're on the ground, which is something we talked about. And maybe one more thing. I'll ask you the security aspect of things. Have you had more instances where I guess you were fearful for your safety?

[C]

Yeah, I think. I mean, sometimes you just get some weird people. You get some people have yelled at me in certain locations or people come up to you and those say they'll say something and you'll know that they've been looking at you for a while from a distance. And so that's always a bit scary. Or just the fact that everywhere you go, someone knows you and how people try to make you have to be some bad person when you're really not. You're just out here literally providing service for the public.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So I do have to have security. What I'm out about, and especially in big cities.

[B]

That is so crazy to me. Well, God bless you. Thank you for being willing to do the hard work. We, and I say we as in me and my family and the people I know in my life, but more broadly than that, American voters who care about the future and the trajectory of our country, we thank you and I hope you enjoy the state of the union tonight.

[C]

Thank you, Riley. Appreciate it.