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What's the best way to put this? If investigating crimes is illegal, then we are being governed by criminals. Criminals that you and I are paying the salaries of, mind you. I'm so excited for today's conversation with Nick Shirley. He has been on the show before. Actually. He was the inaugural guest of the Riley Gaines show, so he's a friend of the show. He of course focused a lot on Minnesota and what was happening there. Uncovering billions of dollars in Frau Waste abuse, specifically in Minnesota daycares, which ultimately resulted in the untimely resignation of Tim Walls from his gubernatorial campaign. I mean, effectively really ending his political career. He has now shifted his attention to California, focusing on voter ID fraud, focusing on fraud in hospice centers. Well, how do you think Gavin Newsom took this? Smiling ear to ear. He should be right. Beaming with the idea of cracking down on fraud. Wasted taxpayer dollars in his state. No, that's not at all what Gavin Newsom, the Attorney general or the state legisl doing. No, instead they introduced the Stop Nick Shirley Act. Really think about that for a second. Instead of going after the fraudsters, California is going after the people exposing the fraud. This bill that they've introduced, it's AB 2624. What this will do, it will criminalize journalists with misdemeanors, meaning $10,000 fines could result in imprisonment. Of course, content being taken down, which is a total violation of the First Amendment by the way. It lets immigrant based NGOs funding be entirely confidential. It takes away freedoms of the press from journalists, of course, and protects any immigration support services information from being public. Think health care, legal services, et cetera. We have a lot to unpack. We are talking to the investigative journalists of all investigated journalists, Nick Shirley. Well, Nick, thanks for joining the Riley Gaines show again. This is your third time you were the inaugural guest, so I'm super excited you're back. Give us like a brief synopsis of what the Nick Shirley act is and why do people want to so desperately shut you down?
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So the Nick, the Stop Nick Shirley act, the official title is AB2624. And what this will do is it will make it criminal to search and investigate fraud. Specifically in immigrant service providers, for instance, if there is a company that is giving legal services to an illegal migrant or giving. Giving translation translation services, or the big one, healthcare to an illegal migrant, that information on that business, if they receive taxpayer dollars, that information will then become confidential. And if you were to go and make a video out front saying how much money this location got, and they said that your visit was unwelcoming, they could then charge you for harassment, and you could then be charged with $4,000 for a civil fine or $10,000 for a criminal fine and $50,000 for a felony. And they're trying to hide our tax dollars that they are giving to illegal migrants for their immigrant support providers and make it a crime to expose any fraud that's taking place.
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Well, it seems not only even that, but it would also result in your content being taken down. That seems like to me, a total violation of your First Amendment rights, your free speech, also freedom of press. So this ultimately, in the position that you're in with the occupation that you have, obviously the content that you put up, it's consequential in its outcome, but also it's a way for you to monetize. It's a job for you. And so talk about the free speech implications this bill has.
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Yeah, think about it. So they're literally saying, you cannot film in public space. In public space. And if we give you a written letter, you have to take down your content, even if you are in public space. So imagine I'm in a hospice in a parking lot that's a public parking lot. And I film, I document that. There's nobody at these hospices. Well, if somebody comes and gives me a piece of paper that says, hey, you don't have permission to do this, they would then be able to force your content to be taken down unless you want to receive a $4,000 fine.
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B
Feels very authoritarian, which we see in the news cycle all the time. These, no Kings Day protesters, where are they when it comes to a bill like this? Do you find hypocrisy in the general public's response, especially those who are on the very radical fringe side of things? Do you notice the Hypocrisy there?
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C
Oh, 100%. And like, what I'm doing is not like a right or left issue. I'm exposing fraud that's taking place. And. And now they're trying to censor me for exposing fraud, and they're trying to not just censor me. The bill says people. It doesn't say journalist. So that just means Every single person here in America or every single person in California, if they were to expose it, they would then be censored. They'd be potentially have to face a $4,000 civil fine. They'd have to have their video taken down, which is a direct violation of your freedom of speech and your freedom of press. So where are the people? Why aren't there other people saying anything? Where's CBS News? They also covered the hospices. Do they not know that this would also make their videos illegal to make? Where's all the protesters that are yelling fascists this, fascist that when they are actually trying to suppress our speech by trying to pass a bill that it's a direct attack on our First Amendment?
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Now you were in California recently and you got to directly confront state legislatures. It was amazing. You put up like a 10 minute clip of even co authors, co sponsors of the bill who couldn't answer basic questions. Can you kind of highlight some of the things that you saw from people who again signed off on and attempted to pass. Actually I would love to hear where this bill is currently attempted to pass the Stop Nick Shirley Act.
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C
So all these co authors, the author, the main author, Mia Bonta, the wife of the ag, she decided not to show up to work that day. So she didn't even go to the state capitol that day when they were talking about her bill.
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B
Again, people we pay the salaries of.
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C
Exactly. So Mia Bonta, they, a man brought up a motion to then stop the bill. They then voted to continue with that bill. And so when all of the co authors were leaving to go to their office, I said, well I'm going to ask these guys about this bill. Do they not know that this is a direct violation of the First Amendment? Do they not know that this will make it criminal to expose fraud? And why are we not pushing for more transparency when we're seeing all this fraud and you guys are pushing for less? So I just wanted to ask them. And the response, I was shocked at first and I said, said when I asked the first lady and she's like, you're just asking random questions and she's literally a co author of this bill. And then the next lady says that it's not a direct violation of the first Amendment. Then I tell her like, well it would make it criminal to film in public space. And she just shuts down. The next person said that he didn't even know that he was a co author of the bill. The other lady said she didn't know who I was when this bill was created because of me. Other lady wouldn't give me any time of day. Another man got on a phone call and would not, would not stop his phone call to just answer some questions. And they all just ran right inside of their offices without answering any questions. A lot of them even said, well, you can talk to my staff. These people didn't even know that the what was on the bill. Some of them didn't even know that they were co authors of this bill. So you have California legislators who are getting our DOT getting dollars from Californians and they don't even know where what they are doing.
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Scott Weiner had some choice words to say about you, which I've talked about Scott Weiner on this show before. I think he has authored some of the most egregious bills in any state legislature in the country. Really just a horrib person. I won't even get into that. What was it that he said to you again in passing, very quickly running into the building after he said I'm
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a psycho scam artist.
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I wish. We'll put a picture of Scott Wiener on screen and post. And this is the man who is calling Nick Shirley a psycho. Anyways, you did have some Republican members who were helping you kind of navigate the state House and who some of these authors were. How difficult would it be to be a Republican legislature legislator in the state of California? Are they kind of fighting like an uphill battle here?
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C
Oh, it would be so hard. I'm trying to think of how to describe it because literally it's like you're walking up a mountain and each time you take a step, you're getting pushed two steps down. Because these people, they're the minor. They're. They're the majority in California, the Democrats. But they are so radical to the point where they cannot even have a conversation with somebody on the right. In fact, they can't even have a conversation with a journalist who's asking them questions about the bills they're co authoring. And so you have other people who are in the fight trying to do the best for their state. But it seems like every time they make a few steps, they get pushed back down. And there needs to become a. There needs to be a point when they can actually have a conversation and not look at each other like enemies. But until they don't open up the doors to have those conversations, it's going to be the same thing that you saw with me on the streets of Sacramento, just asking the people about these bills. It's gonna be the same results they're not going to give any feedback and there's gonna be no conversation.
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B
Now, what was the response from Gavin Newsom? Has there been any, like, online discourse? Has he thanked you for your work?
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C
Actually, Newsom, he didn't have much to say. He hasn't said much about it. All he has said is there's a photo of me that got. That was taken with one of the assembly men who's a Republican. And they clap. They tried to clap back with a photo of me and him as dumber and dumber. And it's just so funny to me that Gavin Newsom's press office literally just wants to try to make me look as bad as possible, but every single time they do it, they end up getting ratioed by, like, 10 times. So I don't understand what's their point? I don't know if they can see that this isn't a. That this is just a big issue that their faces, that their state is facing now.
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You have been like the king of ratios, dating back to our old friend Tim Waltz, who you like, effectively ended the political career of. You have been like the king of ratios. We'll put a picture on screen of the post that you're talking about from Gavin Newsom. You also mentioned the Attorney General, which, of course, each state's AG is the state's top law enforcement officer. Now, after you went into these hospice centers and uncovered again all of the fraud, all of the waste, all of the abuse, we saw some action from the AG's office. Can you kind of describe what that looked like? And again, can you explain the relationship between the Attorney General and his wife, who was an author of this bill?
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I think that's the craziest part of this whole entire bill is that the ag, like you said, he's the head of prosecuting crime inside of the state of California. So when I made this hospice video, everyone was saying that, oh, this isn't real. This isn't real.
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And.
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And then all of a sudden they started saying, oh, my gosh, we have been on the case for years. We've been on the case for years, Nick. And then they actually made a press release and they said, we've been on this way before. Certain people started coming to our state, referring to me. And they were very excited to announce that they had stopped over $250 million, which is amazing. Like, we shall celebrate that. But then, just a few days later, the AG's wife creates this bill that would make it illegal to expose fraud. So you have the AG who's over. Who's the Attorney general? And then you have his wife, who's an assembly woman, trying to make it illegal to get the information on those exact same locations and these immigrant support providers. So you have a total conflict of interest there. Like how can one be the AG wanting to take down crime and then his wife wants to protect them, the fraudsters.
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Yeah. Of course, the AG has been horrendous across the board. The culture issues obviously, as. As shown with this issue. So no surprise there. I think I saw where there were had been. He had made 21 arrests, which. That's the tip of the iceberg, isn't it?
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Oh, there's so many more that needs to take place. I mean, just in LA alone, there's over 1500 hospices. They've shut down 500 of them and not a single one of them has came back saying, hey, let us open our doors. That just shows that all of them are fraudulent. And so there's 21 arrests. There should be about 450 more.
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Yeah. What do you make of some of the name calling? Because I think that's pretty much all of the criticism I see online of you. It's never anything of substance. It's never anything that would disqualify the work that you're doing. It's merely name calling. Whether that's Gavin Newsom, of course. We mentioned Scott Wieners comments. Do you take that almost as like a compliment? I would imagine it's hard not to let that get to you when you're doing the pivotal and consequential work that you're doing.
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C
I think it's kind of funny that that's the worst they can get me on. Go for it. I mean, that's literally like what little kids do at recess.
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B
It is so true. It is so like elementary, it's so second grade to like call people names. And what have you found from the public? I saw in your expose you got to talk to a few people who weren't assembly members. I don't know if they were staffers or if they were just everyday Californians who were passing by. What's the response that you've received from your standard taxpayer in the state of California?
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Oh, it was so funny. So I'm walking around the Capitol and all the people around the Capitol are so excited to see me. I had like, moms wanting me to take photos with their kids and they're like, who's this? Like, oh, yo, like, he's super important. He's doing a lot for our State. And so you have all these, like, people that are super happy and a lot of them want to take photos. And then you also have the politicians inside the building who hate me, who are making. Who are doing the name calling, who are trying to act like there is no fraud. But the general public are so happy to see this take place and for the fraud to be exposed, because everyone's seen it for so long. But a lot of people didn't feel like they could actually say something, or maybe they didn't feel like anything would happen if they were to say something about it or to try and expose it. So I think it's been awesome to see, like, the reaction. Like, obviously there's some. Some people that are upset, especially the fraudsters and the cronies that Gavin Newsom, his troops rile up with their post and their name calling. But the general public, they see through it all. And that's what's been awesome to see.
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B
I've noticed that too. Kind of what you're describing, where there's a lot of people in private or who will direct message you or kind of through like, winks or whispers or fist bumps or behind closed doors, thank you for your work. But publicly, they're really scared to say it. Why do you think that is? Do you think these people are fearful of maybe their jobs or even their safety? And do you think we're witnessing a cultural shift with a new administration in the Oval Office?
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I think it's the same reason why they let fraud take place in Minnesota with the Somalian population, because they're too afraid of being called Islamophobic, or they're too afraid of being called a racist or being called far right. That's all the things that the governor himself actually even called me. And so they're afraid of that pushback. But now people can see that, no, this isn't just a issue that took place in Minnesota. This is a issue all across the United States. And when we're all working super hard to pay our taxes and these fraudsters are literally robbing us of our hard days of work, everyone is upset.
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Yeah. Which in California, gosh, if you're in the highest tax bracket, you're essentially paying upwards of 60% of your paycheck into the state and the federal government. So, I mean, if you equate that to months out of a year that you're essentially working for free, I mean, that's like through July or August, that is free work. When you're talking, I guess when you're thinking about it from that perspective and how telling is it to be labeled far right for merely wanting to expose fraud and keep that money in our pockets? Whether you're Democrat or Republican, as you said, One thing that I'm curious about with you, and I know we've talked about this last time, but the security threats that you face, every single video that you post, of course you become more of a household name. Your face is easily recognizable now, for better or for worse, I guess. What has security looked like for you? And have you had any encounters where you have been fearful for your safety?
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Just for example, to film the hospice video, that video cost $15,000 of security because you have to have someone to drive and then you have to have people out there to walk around with you. So it's not cheap. In every single day, when I go out and film or when I go out to a city, I've been advised that I need to have security. It's not the funnest thing to have to walk around with security, but I do think it is probably necessary. And like, somebody show up to my house the other day. That was really weird. I did not like that. I thought that was very strange. Then you always do have people coming up in your street, and 99% of the time it's positive interactions. Then you do get a few people that are, that do get upset because maybe they're involved in the fraud and it's getting stopped. But just a small percentage here in the United States is still about 3 million people.
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B
Is there a part of you that kind of wishes you could go back to being a little more anonymous?
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C
No, because I think what I've done has been super important for the country. And so I feel like that'd be very selfish of me to do it, to do that. But life's definitely a little bit different now. But I wouldn't change it.
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B
What about, like, your relationships? And like, you don't have to answer, but even like dating life, like, it would be hard to find someone who can kind of accept the position that you're in and be very understanding of the pressure and the opportunities that you've had to continue making impact. Like, is it harder to even like, date now?
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A little bit. It's kind of strange actually, because, I mean, it's not like it's weird to like, if I'm in a big city to go on a date with someone and then you have to bring like a security guard. Like, I, I think that's very strange. I don't like that at all. So I tend not to do it that often, but it is a bit weird and I guess we'll see what happens.
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B
That's so funny. Do you think the system that we are currently operating under, do you think it's fixable or do you think it's kind of just managing chaos? And to that point you focus a lot of time on deeply blue states like Minnesota and California. What about more purple states or even, even red states? Right. I'm not going to act like conservative states with conservative leadership isn't immune to the fraud that's going on too. Do you think this is nationwide? Is it fixable?
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C
It is nationwide. And the thing with these states like Minnesota and California is the fraud is so massive, one could spend an entire lifetime there exposing the fraud. And I would like to go to more states. However, right now in California, they're now trying to pass this bill to try and stop people from exposing the fraud. They're basically saying, hey, we have more fraud here. Don't expose it before we pass this bill. So maybe I have to do everything I can do until this bill gets passed to expose it all. And I do think changes are actually going to start happening. I hope they go after and take down each and every single one of these fraudsters, but just them alone, cracking down on 500 hospices, not a single one of them saying, hey, we want to open back, open business back up. That's shutting down that problem right there. Minnesota, not a single one of the daycares after having to prove proof of receipts to receive their money. Not a single one has even sent any money back to receive money for the children. If they had children there, they'd be sending proof of receipts like instantaneously to get that money back. So I think the bleeding is getting stopped and now it'll be going after the people who caused the bleeding that they need to go after now, which
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B
you bring up Minnesota. What about Ilhan Omar, like, what's the latest there? And her involvement in the fraud? What, what can we expect? Accountability. It's so hard because I think especially for your everyday person who maybe doesn't understand the legalities of it, it is such a long, lengthy process to really hold someone accountable in the way that, that we want to see. What's the latest with someone like her?
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C
Well, Ilhan, she had a net worth of 6 million to $30 million. And now it's down to I think, 18 to $98,000.
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B
Wow.
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And now she's blaming on an accounting error. So the accountant at the learning center either really messed up or she has been committing all this fraud. She actually just got rid of one of her LLC's for her winery that had millions of dollars. So that just vanished. That doesn't make any sense. I actually have video that I posted in my daycare video when I exposed it for the second time of Ilhan Omar going to the restaurant that's attached to the leering center. And she was good friends with the owner of that restaurant who also was the owner of other daycares that was taking around Mayor Fry. And so they've all known about this fraud. It's all been involved. I believe Ilhan Omar, she knows very much about defeating our future fraud as well. And there should be enough evidence there for whoever's in Congress, whoever is doing investigations to go after and take down Ilhan. And I know she married her brother as well.
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B
Honestly, it's so like there's proof that
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she married her brother.
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I think X for sure. Like X is definitely the best platform where real world change can take place. Because when you post a video, not only does it get posted, it also then creates conversation with other accounts that have 10,000 followers, 100,000 followers, a million followers. It can then that video can then trickle. And then there's so much engagement and so much conversation that can get brought about, whether that be a comment from somebody else who makes a whole separate post on it that then ties it back to that video. And you literally have these days on X where, for instance, when I exposed that this, the new Stop Shirley, the Stop Nick Shirley act, you had over 100,000 people talking about that on the Internet. And in two days, it was then 300,000 people. And so imagine the public pressure that then these assemblymen and assembly women face when they see that 300,000 people are speaking against a bill that they're trying to put out to censor the freedom of speech. And so I do think X is the most powerful. And then I would say YouTube, cable, and then like Instagram and those other platforms.
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B
Yeah, yeah. Last time we. You were on with the Riley Gaines show, I asked you if you had met Elon Musk and you said, I think you guys had communicated at that point. You hadn't met him in person, but now you have, right? What was that like?
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C
Super cool. I was a bit nervous to go meet Elon, but it was super awesome experience and I really enjoyed our conversation. And what's great about Elon is he has all this stuff he has to focus on. He has SpaceX, he has Tesla, he has the Boring Company, he has Neuralink, he has X in itself, but he's also cares still very much about what's happening inside the country. And he realizes that the platform that he's provided to everyone is the best way for information to get out. And so Elon does care about election integrity. He does care about fraud being stopped, because he also realizes that if the fraud doesn't stop and if we do not can stop this wasteful spending, the buying power of just everyone goes down. And it's a big problem that we all face. And so I'm very thankful for Elon Musk and for what he's done with X and also for him just being somebody out there who's willing to speak up and say, maybe what's not the most popular. Maybe what's not the most popular thing to say at the time. But he knows it's true. Like, he's a. I think Big Ball said he's like a truth maxer, which is pretty funny.
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B
Truth maxer. That's pretty good. It's like the Gen Z lingo. I have to like, ask my younger sister. I'm like, wait, what do these things mean? What does look. Looks maxing. That's so funny. Was he as awkward? God bless him. I love him. It's amazing to me, like, that we have the same amount of time in our day with everything that he accomplishes. Was he as, like, awkward in real life as I have kind of imagined him to be in my head?
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C
No, he was pretty cool. He was pretty cool is funny because I just, I didn't know what to expect and I had like, a few things I wanted to talk to him about and within like the first two minutes that just completely went out the window and we just had a conversation and it was just like you're talking to somebody else who is interested in the same things you're interested in. It was very, very cool. And it was cool to see how he operates and how, how X works as well. Like, as far as, like, how the offices work.
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B
It is amazing. And I think that's. There's a real appeal to someone like Elon Musk and even President Trump. He's. He's very much the same way where when talking to him, you forget he's a billionaire. You know, like, the reality of it, there shouldn't be a whole lot that someone like myself and Elon Musk or President Trump have in common. But you don't feel like that when you're having that conversation with them, because they really do care. There's a level of authenticity and just realness, at least from what I have experienced. So that's super cool to hear. Last thing, I guess, for you is what do your parents think of all this? I've seen some posts from your mom. She looks like just the sweetest woman ever. How is their involvement in this? I would imagine they're very supportive of you, but it's kind of got to scare them, I bet, having their son doing these really big things with very real threats.
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C
They're very supportive. My mom's quite the character. She comes along for a lot of the stuff as well, so she's pretty funny. And like, I think we all realize that this is such a big issue, and if I've been given the platform to expose it or to speak out about it, it's my responsibility to do it. And so they just find every way that they possibly can to be supportive of it, which is really awesome.
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B
What do you hope to be remembered for from doing all of this work?
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C
Hopefully one, exposing the fraud and then also just showing to everyone that they can actually make a difference inside this country. I think for so long, people have felt defeated by trying to make a difference or by trying to do something. But I think with this video I made or with the work I've been doing over the past few years is you really can make a difference inside of the United States and that the American dream is still alive. It's a bit harder, and you have to work a lot harder for it, but it is still. You can still accomplish it. And I hope people realize that, that their voices do matter and that they have the opportunity and they have the same chance as somebody just like me to actually make a difference, whether it be inside their neighborhood or inside their city or inside the country. I think that's hopefully what people can take away from what I've been able to do so far.
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B
Well, it's definitely one of my main takeaways is the power of one person. And the lie that young people, I think, especially are told where, you know, one person can't really have lasting impact. You have debunked that, and you've opened so many people's eyes. So whether it's the Minnesota daycares, whether it's California Medicare, whether it's ActBlue, all fraudulent. Now we found out about the Southern Poverty Law Center. Fraudulent fire aid, fraudulent. What's kind of next for you, specifically? Do you have any other industries that you're targeting or maybe that you're. That, you know, the federal government, the Department of Justice is looking into what's kind of the next big thing?
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C
I have a lot of ways I can go with this. And I have. I already have some videos filmed that I have. Like, this one will expose quite literally, like billions of dollars. People are wanting me to go investigate Ilhan, so maybe I'll have to make a trip back to Minnesota. I have a video coming out today of me going and giving her one of these hoodies, asking her if she'd become a member of the anti fraud taxpayer club. But there's so much.
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B
I can't wait to see that.
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C
There's so much fraud across the country. And I love doing these videos where I go across, where I go to other countries as well. So hopefully I can get overseas or go to South America soon.
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B
Okay, you guys, I want to tell you about something that I actually think is really worth your time, especially if you have kids or honestly, if you just appreciate a story that makes you think a little deeper. There's this new film coming out. It's called Animal Farm. It's an animated adaptation of the classic George Orwell scri story. And it's in theater starting May 1st. My husband and I, we got an early screening access. It was so good. I remember reading Animal Farm back when I was a freshman in high school. I love this. It was animated. This version, it really brought to life the story in a way that's engaging. Honestly, it was kind of funny. And of course, the storyline itself is just eye opening. It follows this young pig named Lucky, and you kind of get to experience everything through his perspective. So the hope and the shift in power and how quickly things can go off the rails when people stop questioning what they're being told. And I will say this, watching it reminded me how important it is not to just go along with things because it's easier, but how important it is to say what's true, to question what doesn't make sense, and to not be afraid to stand your ground. I love this movie because it really wasn't just entertainment. Like I said, it actually leaves you thinking. It sparks conversations. It's something that you can watch with your kids, especially if they're older. So maybe middle school, high school. And you can talk about what theme was afterwards, which, let's be honest, most movies, especially kids movies, don't really allow for that anymore. This film was brought to theaters by Angel Studios Guild. So it's one of those projects people genuinely cared enough about to make happen, which, of course, I respect. So if you're looking for something different, something maybe with a little more substance, something that you can discuss with your kids, I would definitely recommend checking it out. Animal Farm is in theaters on May 1st. Tickets are available now. You can go grab yours@angel.com RG and let me know what you think about it. Are you enjoying the media side of things or do you feel like you've had to, like, really learn how to like, communicate these issues but also sit in front of a camera? Like, I think it's, it can't really be understated. Like it's. It's hard to be able to effectively communicate when you have lights and a camera in your face and you're on the stage and with the platform that you have. Have you found yourself enjoying that side of things? Or is it more burdensome than just doing the work that you're used to doing?
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C
Luckily, this has all been very like, incremental for me. Like, it would have been harder for me if I had just posted this video and it was my first viral video ever. I don't think people understand that I have been doing this since I was 15 years old and for the past two years I've been making videos that receive millions of views. Nothing as crazy as the most viral video of all time that receives 4 billion views in seven days. But I had been doing this for a very long time. So I think that's also part of my story was just the consistency that took place in order for something like this to happen. It wasn't just like an overnight thing. And so some of this stuff has been a bit of an adjustment. Like public speaking, for instance. I haven't ever really done much of those and now I'm doing more of those, which is awesome. And it's just like getting those reps in. And sometimes you do interviews and sometimes you're not. You don't have as much energy or you didn't get the greatest night of sleep or you haven't been sleeping for too long. Like just for this one, I just hopped off a flight and slept for three hours and came over here to do this. So I think that's like the hard thing is like showing you're not tired when maybe you are tired or to always be 100% well.
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B
I think you have done a fantastic job and we are so grateful for you. Excited for this Ilhan Omar video. I can't wait to see her response when you ask her if she wants to be a part of the anti fraud club. I cannot wait for that. But we'll keep cheering you on. How can the listeners and viewers of this support you and the work that you're doing?
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C
Yeah. Follow me everywhere. And then actually become a member of the anti fraud club. It's just antifraudclub.com we're creating a. We have a newsletter there and then we're also expanding that to where eventually. Well, actually right now people can send us tips on fraud and then we can go through and investigate those. And it's going to become kind of like the network where we work out of, to go about and exposing more of this fraud so more people can focus on it as well. So antifraudclub.com and everything else is also available there.
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B
Well, if Ilhan Omar does not want to be a part of it, then I promise that means that you do want to be a part of it. So thank you, Nick, for everything that you're doing for this country. For Californians who find it hard to live there, living in a red state like Tennessee, we have people who literally call themselves political refugees. Like, they'll introduce themselves, like, hey, I'm so and so, I'm from California, but. But I'm not one of them.
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C
They, like feel bad for being from California.
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B
Yeah, right.
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C
It's so sad. California is such a pretty state too.
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B
It is so sad.
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C
There's so many good things about it. But then they just, their politics just ruined it. I mean, having little kids walk over people dying from fentanyl is just not a cool thing to have to do.
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B
No. And so you have families, especially with young kids leaving. So I think what the work that you're doing, ultimately you're making life better for them and the problems that they've maybe known existed, especially the homelessness, the crime, the poverty, the drugs, they see that on the streets every day. But when you're on the ground exposing it to billions, not even millions, billions of people, including getting it to the correct people who can help hold these elected officials accountable. It's really consequential stuff. So thank you very much.
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C
Thank you, Riley. Appreciate it.
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B
Thank you guys for watching today's episode of the Riley Gaines Show. I hope you loved it. And if you did, make sure you subscribe. You can do that right here so you never miss an episode. We'll see you guys next week.
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D
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