WNBA Backlash Over Sophie Cunningham, Caitlin Clark Fans & Seattle Storm Controversy - The Riley Gaines Show

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Just another episode of the Riley Gaines show to remind you that the wnba, the Women's National Basketball association is so unserious. My entire brand has been built on protecting women's sports. And that's not just like a slogan that I say for social media, for clicks online, like I really mean it. I want women to have the opportunity to compete and to succeed in their sport, whatever that sport maybe. But the wnba, they seem determined to sabotage itself at every single opportunity. I've said it before, I will say it again. I have never seen a league more dedicated to self imploding than the wnba. It feels like they just want to fold as an organization or a league or a business. They continue to support the wrong side of everything and now they're attacking teenagers that they disagree with. It seems like every single week it's an controversy and not even because the basketball that's being played on the court. It's because of the league and the decisions that they're making administratively. I think this league is at a crossroads. They really, really need to decide what they want to be. They can either be a professional women's basketball league or they can be an activist organization that occasionally plays basketball. And it seems as if they are hell bent on fulfilling the latter. The wnba. As far as I see it, this is how outside looking in, I view the WNBA and their target aud, their base. I see two groups. On one hand you have the disgruntled lesbians. Right. Picture like the Rosie ODonnells of the world. Like that visual you have in your head. Yeah, that. And on the other hand you have dads who enjoy taking their daughters to basketball games. Again, that's just talking about who actively tunes in to watch the games, who is showing up to to be there in person watching a game. It really falls into I think those two categories. But the WNBA seems to forget about the dads and their young daughters and the families that want to show up because their little girls play basketball and they aspire to be just like Caitlin Clark. The WNBA forgets about them. And that's been made all the more evident after this past week when you had a co owner of the Seattle storm cursing out 16 year old girls. Yes, you heard that right. If you haven't watched the news or you don't really know what I'm talking about, we've got some photos on screen of two young girls. Again, these are 16 year old girls from the state of Washington who are there courtside for the Fever, which is Indiana Fever. That's who Sophie Cunningham and Caitlin Clark play for versus the Seattle Storm game. Uh, if you're looking on screen, you can see one young girl wearing her XXXY apparel. I wish I would have worn mine today so we could match. I could match these two heroines. Uh, but you can see on screen she's holding a poster that says, thank you, Sophie, for speaking up for girls. Not a political statement, right? Super cool. These are our young high school age girls. If I had to guess, they're going into their junior year of high school next year. The girl in this photo holding the sign that says, thank you, Sophie, for standing up for girls, her name is Annalee Wilson. As I said, She's 16 years old. She runs track and field. She's from the state of Washington. So what does that combination mean? You play sports in high school in a liberal state like Washington? It means that Anna Lee Wilson has dealt with this issue, the issue of men and women's sports, or I guess in this case, boys and girls sports on a personal level, uh, Anneli Wilson, she first drew widespread attention after finishing second place at the 2024 Junior Olympic Regional 1600 meter race. And who did she finish second behind? You're right. That would be a boy. We've got a photo on screen of Annalee standing there. You can see she has a pretty defeated look on her face, taking, you know, the second place spot on the podium as she's supposed to be the rightful champion standing atop the podium. Well, a bo has taken her spot. Here's a quote from her mom. Her mom said to outkick. She's struggling with anxiety attacks and panic attacks where her mind has just gone blank. Her teachers account for wandering at school one day. She couldn't speak. She was crying. Anna Lee said everyone was just saying at the meet how all the girls, including me, just needed to suck it up and deal with it. That's the way things are. The transgender athlete was just the priority. It didn't matter how we felt. We just had to deal with it. Hearing that is sad and disappointing because it felt like they were just ignoring how we felt completely and didn't want to listen to our frustrations at all. And that's the crux of the gender ideology movement, right? It's constantly preaching of mental health. What about Annalee's mental health? Constantly preaching of inclusion. Well, what about the girl who placed ninth who didn't get to stand on the podium because to me, it appears as if she was excluded. Right. It's never about the girls, always about the boys. So you can imagine when the opportunity came to go watch Sophie Cunningham and Caitlin Clark play in her hometown in her home state of Washington and Seattle. That would be pretty exciting, especially given recently where Sophie has come out and said, look, boys should not be in girls sports. Someone like Anna Lee, that sort of courage that Sophie showed is contagious. Maybe that gave her the spark, it lit the fire under her to keep going. As you read in the article, it's easy to get down on yourself. Think about it as a 16 year old girl when you're hearing insane, inaccurate slurs about you being called every sort of phobia, every sort of ism. And then you've got this professional female athlete who finally, a professional athlete finally takes the stand. You want to go see that person play in real life with your own eyes. You make a sign, you're so excited, you've got your shirt, you expect to have a good time, right? Yeah. Well, until Celeste Keaton shows up, the co owner of the Seattle Storm. Rather than explaining what happened, let's just watch a video and hear it from Annalee and her friend's account. Tell me what happened when this woman approached you.
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Well, we were just sitting there through signs, said like, we love Sophie, like thank you Sophie, for speaking up. And so we were holding on, just watching the game again, we were being super great. We hadn't said anything to anyone else. We were being super respectful. We were just holding our signs and cheering for both teams. And this lady, older lady, comes up to us and she comes up to us and at first I think she's gonna be nice and she asked like, what are you guys doing? Something like that. Yeah. And then it was like, Jesus loves everyone. That's what she told us. And I was like, oh, I know, like I'm religious, like I know, I know. Yeah. And she's like, oh, I hope Jesus can forgive you what sin you've done. And like something like that. And then she told us that we were effing insane and that we like.
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And she went like this.
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Insane. Yeah. She's like, you have.
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You better stop this and stop pulling this.
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And for you guys, God can save you.
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She said for you to come here and pull this. She said the word.
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Did she say effing insane or no, she.
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Yeah, she said the word. Yeah, she said the word.
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It is such a sad state of affairs when two 16 year old girls, juniors in high school, let's say two 16 year old girls have to be the adults in the room and no one, no One in the stands. No one sitting beside them has the gall to defend these two girls to a fully grown, powerful in her own right. Wealthy woman, disgruntled lesbian. Oh, it's so frustrating. It is so frustrating. Let's keep watching. I will say, Annelie, when I came over, you were in tears.
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Yeah, I've never been yelled at like that. I mean, I've had people hate on me on the Internet, but, like, it doesn't really affecting as much because it's just people online. But that just took me side surprise because I thought she was gonna be nice. And then she started, like, screaming at us and cussing at us. So.
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Yeah, and so Lou said she walked away, and we thought that was kind of it. But she mentioned something to you about, like, working for the team or there
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was another lady that like, told us, like, we were able to have her opinions, but we needed to not be political about it. And I tried to explain to her I wasn't trying to be political. I was just trying to support Sophie and support the other team.
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And you were just sitting there watching.
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Yeah, we hadn't interacted with any except for, like saying, excuse me, how could
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you watch that video and listen to those two girls and see how sweet their demeanor is and their disposition is and listen to what they actually had to say. Right. She said several times, we never intended to be political. We're here to support Sophie because she supports us. You know, we were never disrespectful to anyone. How could you listen to that and call those girls any form of a derogatory slur or word or phrase? Those girls have more composure and maturity and wisdom and kindness in their pinky than Celeste Keaton has ever had in her entire lifetime. First of all, who is Celeste Keaton? I've used the phrase disgruntled lesbian. That's not hyperbole. That's what Celeste Keaton is. She's in her 60s. She's got a wife. She's morbidly obese. Again, not an exaggeration. She's. She's overweight. She's got the typical haircut. The one again, if you're not watching on YouTube.com, the one that your vision visualizing in your head. That's the exact one that Celeste Keaton has. Apparently she's like one of those kooky card readers. Tarot cards. Is that even how you say it? Who, like, can manifest and look into the future and predict the outcome of your life? I don't know. She's kooky and she's angry and she's mad and she's cursing out 16 year old girls. How miserable and insecure, quite frankly, do you have to be to do that? I can't even fathom doing that, like finding myself in this situation that Celeste Keaton found herself in where I'm like eye to eye with someone I disagree with politically. I would never, no matter who it is, it could be someone my same age, it doesn't matter. I would never curse them out like that. I mean, I can't even imagine going to someone's social media page and leaving a hate comment. Right? Because I'm a grown adult, because I'm secure with myself. I'm secure with my belief in the stance that I have taken, that I don't need to tear someone down to lift me up or to make me feel better or to condemn them to hell, which is what Celeste Keaton did saying, you know, I hope God forgives you for what you've done. What is it exactly? What? What exactly have they done, Celeste? What is it? They. Oh no, they believe there's two sexes. Guess what? So does the Bible. It goes back to the very first book. He made them male and female intentionally and uniquely in his perfect image. And how amazing is it that we have a creator who doesn't make mistakes? He just doesn't. So what exactly did they do wrong? Celeste is got it at least a little bit right saying, I hope God forgives you. I hope he forgives all of us, quite frankly, because we are all sinners, undeserving of his mercy and of his grace and of his goodness. But oh my gosh, to tell young girls, you know, I can't believe you'd come here and try this. And I hope God forgives you. What a horrible human being you are. What a horrible human being you are, Celeste. But if being heckled by a grown woman wasn't enough, how about being heckled by a grown man? We'll play it here. You leave my daughter alone. Go, go. She's a minor. Security garbage. Take the shots. Take the chance out. I just don't know how this grown man does not wither away and die out of shame. Like, how are you not so embarrassed and ashamed of yourself? How could you possibly stand there and think that you are the bigger person? How could you be proud of yourself as a grown man for saying F you and telling security to take the trash out and pointing at two 16 year old girls when grown adults feel emboldened to pick on teenage girls? There is something seriously Wrong with society. Annalise. She said that they were sat by people who were holding signs that. That indicated, you know, no hate in the United States or whatever. I just want to say the people who hold up the signs that say no hate are generally full of hate if you disagree with them. This group that endlessly lectures people on inclusion, nothing would make them happier than if Annalee and her friend and anyone who thinks like them are excluded. It is amazing how the no hate. Actually, I think one of the groups that was there to rally, I guess, in favor of men and women's sports, to put it plainly, they're called no hate in Washington State. All they do is exude hate. I think especially when you look at a city like Seattle, they have a very particular flavor of, like, closed, closed mindedness. People often expect a place that prides itself, again, on being inclusive and diverse and accepting, accepting and welcoming. They would expect a place like Seattle to be open and, again, to be welcoming because of its progressive reputation. But in reality, it's not progressive at all, actually. It feels like there's this extremely narrow, rigid set of acceptable opinions and beliefs and thoughts and behaviors and social norms, and you step outside of that unspoken script, even just a little bit, and the walls go up. And oftentimes they resort to name calling at best, actually, and violence at worst. These people, they live in this little bubble, and they literally think that anyone who doesn't agree with them is subhuman and just, like, unworthy of respect. This is the definition of incompetent, misogynistic, and just absolutely and entirely insufferable. Insufferable. They're too. I don't know if it's stupid, sorry if that sounds harsh, or like, willingly blind to recognize that they're fighting for men's rights while claiming to be feminist. Even Annalise, she said it in that video we watched. She said, I was surprised because, talking about Celeste Keaton, saying, I was surprised because she's a woman. Newsflash. It's proven itself to be true time and time and time and time again. It's always women. It's always women. Women will continue to be our own worst enemy. Our biggest hurdle as women in achieving real equality, to use their own buzzwords, is women. Whether it's the three liberal sitting Supreme Court justices who are women who vote in opposition of women having equal opportunity, privacy, safety, or people like Stephanie Dolson, people like Celeste Keaton, it's always women. Why is that? I don't know. I think we have this innate desire to Be compassionate and empathetic, emotionally driven. And I don't say those as bad things. I actually think it's a good thing as women that we innately desire to be those things. It's what makes us such good wives and friends and sisters and moms. But those words, compassion, empathy, they have been just absolutely weaponized against us. What Celeste Keaton did, although she might not think this way, she might think it was the compassionate, virtuous thing to do, it wasn't compassionate. That's not kind how she acted. Advocating for men in your daughter's locker rooms, that doesn't display empathy. Having no problem with kids as young as 9 years old cutting off healthy, functioning body parts, again, those aren't good things. We've been, I guess, like conditioned as a society to believe that they are. They're not. So just be honest with yourself. Words have real meaning. It matters. True connotation. I strive as someone to be compassionate and empathetic. I'm often demonized by the media or whoever, your favorite, like left wing pundit, to be this horrible phobicism person, whatever. I'm not. I would consider myself a compassionate, kind person. And Sophie actually said it in that piece written by ESPN last weekend saying, look, I speak the truth in love. I think the most loving, compassionate thing you can do is to tell the truth. And I think someone should tell Stephanie Dolson that. And I guess my, my last comment I want to direct to her and to this co owner of the Seattle Storm and to anyone in the WNBA who wants to listen. If you really support men and women's sports, let men play. I mean, let LeBron James on the court with your girl. Stephanie, if you have no problem with men on the court with you all as women, then allow each team that you play against for the rest of the season to have just one man on their team for the rest of the season. See how that would go. Maybe they would change their mind. I can tell you what the outcome would be. Anyone with like a fifth grade understanding of biology would tell you what the outcome would be. If even you let one boy, one man who maybe didn't quite, let's say, let's take a college place player, college basketball player, men's college basketball player who didn't quite make the league, let him play on the rest of the teams that you play for the rest of the season and let's see what happens. So curious. I am dying to know what would happen. No, we all know it's rhetorical, of course. The team with the Boy would win. And again, just to hit the point, it's not to say that women are inferior or less than. We just have different physical ceilings. We have different capabilities. There's nothing wrong with that. It's why women's sports were created, to showcase that, to highlight that, to celebrate it, to honor it and to protect it. And when we allow men into those spaces, there's no point for women's sports at all. So what happened on the back end of this, following this interaction that we saw from Celeste Keaton, namely, the WNBA offered a pretty weak apology. I'll read it to you. Says we are aware one of our co owners made comments to two fans in attendance at last night's game. We apologize that this happened. Everyone who attends a Storm game deserves to feel welcome. And we remain committed to creating an inclusive. There it is. An inclusive environment where every fan is treated with respect. Yeah, so that was like a we, we love everyone, but terms and conditions may apply. It feels like there's a clause in there. But nonetheless, WNBA did ultimately decide to suspend Celeste Keaton from the next five home games and has been fined. What's Sophie's response? And all of this because again, she's indirectly implicated in all of it. Because it goes back to her. At least the left is claiming that it does. Because those little girls who showed up in their bigoted ways, they were there to support Sophie. So what does Sophie said? Well, unsurprisingly, she's quadrupled down because she's so cool and because the hate, it just can't really break her. And she torched the Seattle Storm co owner. This was her tweet she put out. She said, I truly believe there is a safe space and love for everybody in all caps. Biological girls, biological boys, trans women and trans men. Everyone is welcome at my table. You can disagree and still be kind. Bravo to those young girls for standing up for what they believe. You'll be hearing from me soon. Yay for gifts. Truly embarrassing of the co owner. Unfortunately shows the type of leader that she is. I love that. The only thing I have to say here is Sophie, you don't have to say biological girls and biological boys or trans women or trans men for that matter. It's just men and women. That's the only two. Boys, girls, male, female. Those are the only two options. Man and woman. Everyone is welcome at my table. I'm right there with Sophie. You can disagree and still be kind. And that's how I saw Anna Lee and her friend who were sitting courtside. They were still kind. They were the ones who were civil. It was the other side who isn't. But the Internet, of course, they never miss an opportunity to tried to cancel Sophie again. It's just not really working. You can't really be canceled if you don't allow them to cancel you. This person online said Sophie Cunningham is Riley Gaines 2.0. Mind you, this has nearly 4 million views at this point. Sophie Cunningham is Riley Gaines 2.0. 10 times more bigoted and transphobic, which I take offense to, by the way. Nobody is more transphobic than me because when they say transphobic, it just really means attached to reality. Again, interchangeable. That 10 times more bigoted and transphobic, despite looking like an actual trans herself. Isn't it so funny when they do this? Right? We've been berated as a society for years if we don't say like that. This 6 foot 4 balding man who puts on a dress, if we don't call him a woman, if we don't say that he's a beautiful woman at that. And now the best insult that they can come up with is that, oh, well, you look trans. That's like the most hurtful thing that they can conjure up in their mind. It's hilarious, isn't it? It, it proves that they don't actually think that trans is like beautiful or stunning or any of the again, things that they've, we've all been conditioned to say and to think and to, to many of us believe over the past few years. The best insult that they can think is that you look trans. And I think it's hilarious. J.K. rowling, who has been just so, so great across the board, obviously she's a literary genius in her writing. She never misses the mark on X either. She tweeted the photo of Anneli holding up the sign and she said, these young women are heroines. They're peacefully protesting against the grotesque unfairness of men playing in women's sports. The only people who are effing insane here are those making a mockery of fair sport for women and trying to bully girls like this into silence. Yes, jk, she's so good. I guess I can kind of tease something. Keep your TV screens on this weekend. Maybe click on a an Indiana Fever game that's happening in Minneapolis on Sunday around 1 o'. Clock. I figure I might need to make an appearance at a WNBA game. I've never been to one before and I want to go. Those young girls, those two girls, they inspired me. The saying of courage is Contagious. Yes. It's cliche, but it's true. And those young girls, their courage has inspired me, so. Might have to just sit courtside with my girl Caitlin and Sophie. Stay tuned. The WNBA posted a video of Angel Reese and Paige Bukers betting $400 on which women's team would win games that they were involved in. By the way, let's play the video really quick. At All Star Weekend, you and angel
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You gotta save this money. I'm gonna see you next week.
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On Wednesday? Yeah. At night? No, at practice.
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Oh, at practice. I mean, I know y' all gonna lose, but you. If y' all lose.
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If y' all win, you get in 400.
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This league is run by morons. I, I, I. This, I just have no words. I have no words. This is fixed betting. This is illegal. The league deleted it really quickly after they realized that this violates league rules. So the league is so dumb, moronic, idiotic, stupid for posting this. But the players, what are y' all doing? You had to. You had to. Everyone knows that it's legal for fixed betting, and that's what this is. How stupid are you to be on video placing these bets with cash being shown and then for Angel Reese to afterwards say, I'll accept my Apple pay. And the presser, when she's asked, asked about this, players in the NFL, in the mlb, in the NBA, have missed entire seasons if not been banned from their sport for life for doing this. But there's been virtually nothing, nothing, radio silence from liberal media, liberal sports media, specifically. Imagine first, if you don't watch basketball, if you don't know who these players are, Angel Reese, who, if you're watching@YouTube.com, you saw she's a black woman. She played at LSU. Ghetto, quite frankly. She's not ghetto because she's black. She's ghetto because she's ghetto and how she talks and how she dresses. There are some things, actually, that I like about Angel Reese. I think she paid off her mom's house, which that's super cool and admirable. So I'm not on, like, an Angel Reese hate train. I'm really not. But she is. Ghetto, I think, is a, an accurate word to describe her. Not because of the color of her skin. I can already picture it. This getting clipped. Riley Gaines calls black girl ghetto. She's not ghetto because she's black. She's ghetto because she's ghetto widow. Okay? And then you have Paige Buchers, who I think is lesbian or queer or a part of that community. Imagine if this story involved Caitlin Clark. I feel bad for Caitlin Clark because so much kind of gets flipped back on her. Actually, what I'm doing right now, I feel bad because Caitlyn didn't necessarily. I mean, she didn't. She never explicitly asked for this. But I do think it's worth making, you know, highlighting the dichotomy that exists. If this story involved Caitlin Clark or better yet, Sophie Cunningham, it would be nonstop ESPN coverage. It would be national outrage. It would be wall to wall debate. It would be demands for punishment and suspension and fines. But we're not seeing that. It's radio silence. I will say, regardless of who is involved, I hope we see a full investigation on this. I think the findings should be made public. I think discipline should be had if it's warranted. And I think there should be no special treatment because. Because it's two of the left wing, crazy WNBA's stars who are, who are involved in the contention we need consistent enforcement of league rules. We've called for that with Caitlin Clark and the violence that she has faced that she has been a direct target of. And we're calling for it here. And if league leadership fails to protect competitive integrity, we need to see leadership change, Quite frankly, including the WNBA commissioner and I think even even more broader, the NBA commissioner discipline there should be on the table. It really should. Because again, at the end of the day, The NBA pours $20 million into that dumpster fire of a league every single year. If the NBA pulls their support, then maybe they will change. But the wnba, I mean, they're comfortable. They have no reason to change. But I guess last thing here, I really, I'll finish this how I started it. I want women to succeed in sports or at least to have the opportunity to succeed in sports. The wnba, they're like hanging on to this choice by a thread, but they have a choice. It can become the premier women's basketball league in the world. I think it would take leaning into Caitlin Clark, protecting her. I mean, at bare minimum, leaning into to the Sophie Cunninghams of the world or which this is more likely. Unfortunately, the WNBA can continue to alienate fans until people stop paying attention altogether. I really, really hope it chooses wisely because women's sports and female athletes deserve a whole lot better than what the WNBA is giving them. Thank you guys for watching the Riley Gaines Show. You can subscribe right here. We have new episodes every single Tuesday and Friday at 10:00am Eastern Time. And we are covering everything from pop culture to politics to deep div lives to motherhood. It's sports. All of that and more. We want to hear from you though. What is it that you want to hear? Comment down below. We can't wait to see you next time.

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The Riley Gaines Show, Fox

Episode: Why This WNBA Controversy Is Bigger Than One Game
Date: July 31, 2026

Episode Overview

In this passionate solo episode, Riley Gaines explores a recent controversy in the WNBA involving the co-owner of the Seattle Storm, two teenage girls, and ongoing debates surrounding women’s sports and gender identity. Gaines positions this incident as reflective of deeper cultural and political divides impacting women’s athletics. With her trademark directness, she analyzes the role of league leadership, activism in sports, and the broader implications for fairness and inclusion.

Key Discussion Points

1. State of the WNBA and Gaines’ Advocacy for Women’s Sports

Riley immediately critiques the WNBA as an organization she sees as self-sabotaging and lacking seriousness (00:04).
She frames the league’s identity crisis:

“They can either be a professional women’s basketball league, or they can be an activist organization that occasionally plays basketball. And it seems as if they are hell bent on fulfilling the latter.” (00:49)
Gaines expresses her personal investment in the integrity and protection of women’s sports, warning that current league politics risk undermining its potential.

2. Incident at the Seattle Storm Game: Teen Fans Accosted

Two 16-year-old girls, including Annalee Wilson, attended a Fever vs. Storm WNBA game holding pro-Sophie Cunningham signs like “Thank you, Sophie, for speaking up for girls.” (03:30)
Background on Annalee: She's a Washington high school athlete who lost a track event to a biological male, leading to anxiety and frustration about fairness:

“Anna Lee said everyone was just saying at the meet how all the girls, including me, just needed to suck it up and deal with it.” (04:32)
Gaines empathizes with the girls’ experience and celebrates Sophie Cunningham for inspiring young women in similar situations.

3. Details of the Altercation with Co-Owner Celeste Keaton

Audio/video recap (05:58–08:00): The girls recount being confronted by Celeste Keaton, who cursed at them and questioned their values:

“She asked, like, what are you guys doing? … Then it was like, ‘Jesus loves everyone.’ … ‘I hope Jesus can forgive you, what sin you’ve done.’ … She told us we were effing insane.” (05:58) “We were just holding our signs and cheering for both teams.” – Annalee (06:01)
The girls felt shocked and intimidated, especially by the aggressive and insulting tone from a grown woman in authority.

“I've never been yelled at like that … that just took me by surprise.” – Annalee (07:26)
Gaines is incensed at the lack of adult intervention and the hostility directed at minors.

4. Character Assessment and Cultural Critique

Riley harshly criticizes Celeste Keaton (“disgruntled lesbian,” “kooky card reader”) and questions her motives and emotional stability. She asserts that no secure adult would treat teenagers in such a way (08:00+).
Broader point: Progressives who trumpet “inclusion” are, in Riley’s view, often the quickest to violently exclude and demean dissenters.

“The people who hold up the signs that say ‘no hate’ are generally full of hate if you disagree with them.” (09:02)

5. The Broader Cultural and Gender Debate

Riley argues that “inclusion” rhetoric prioritizes “boys” feelings over girls’, while girls and women are pushed out of their own spaces.
She reflects on how compassion and empathy have been weaponized to undermine women’s rights:

“Advocating for men in your daughter’s locker rooms, that doesn’t display empathy.” (11:58)
Gaines calls out what she sees as a pattern: “Women will continue to be our own worst enemy” by supporting policies that disadvantage female athletes.

6. The WNBA’s Response and Sophie Cunningham’s Statement

The WNBA issued a brief apology and suspended Keaton for five home games:

“Everyone who attends a Storm game deserves to feel welcome... we remain committed to creating an inclusive environment.” – WNBA Apology (15:38)
Sophie Cunningham’s reaction (quoted from her social media):

“I truly believe there is a safe space and love for everybody … You can disagree and still be kind. Bravo to those young girls for standing up for what they believe.” (16:20)
Riley lauds Sophie, saying the only categories that matter in sports are “men and women. That’s the only two. Boys, girls, male, female. Those are the only two options.” (16:58)
J.K. Rowling is cited for supporting Annalee and her friend:

“These young women are heroines ... The only people who are effing insane here are those making a mockery of fair sport for women and trying to bully girls like this into silence.” – J.K. Rowling (19:12)

7. The Angel Reese & Paige Bueckers Gambling Incident

Riley highlights another example of WNBA mismanagement: a since-deleted league video showed Angel Reese and Paige Bueckers betting $400 on a game outcome, a violation of league rules (23:13).

“This league is run by morons … This is fixed betting. This is illegal.” (23:42)
She notes the double standard in media outrage compared to what Caitlin Clark or Sophie Cunningham might face for similar behavior:

“Imagine if this story involved Caitlin Clark... It would be national outrage. But we’re not seeing that. It’s radio silence.” (24:55)

8. Call for Accountability, Consistency, and Reform

Gaines insists on full investigation and discipline around gambling violations, without preferential treatment for popular (or left-leaning) WNBA stars.
Broader critique: The league’s reliance on NBA subsidies and persistent mismanagement threaten its legitimacy.

“If the NBA pulls their support, then maybe they will change. But the WNBA ... have no reason to change.” (26:01)

9. Closing: Hope for Women’s Sports and a Call to Action

Riley reiterates her hope that the WNBA chooses to seriously support women’s sports instead of alienating fans.

“Women’s sports and female athletes deserve a whole lot better than what the WNBA is giving them.” (27:15)

Notable Quotes & Timestamps

Riley Gaines:

“I have never seen a league more dedicated to self imploding than the WNBA.” (00:25)
Annalee (Teen Fan):

“We were just holding our signs and cheering for both teams.” (06:01)
“I wasn’t trying to be political. I was just trying to support Sophie and support the other team.” (07:48)
Riley Gaines on Keaton:

“How miserable and insecure, quite frankly, do you have to be to do that?... I can't even imagine going to someone's social media page and leaving a hate comment. Right? Because I'm a grown adult, because I'm secure with myself.” (08:30)
Riley Gaines on Progressivism in Seattle:

“People often expect a place that prides itself, again, on being inclusive and diverse … to be open and welcoming because of its progressive reputation. But in reality … there’s this extremely narrow, rigid set of acceptable opinions.” (09:32)
J.K. Rowling:

“These young women are heroines ... The only people who are effing insane here are those making a mockery of fair sport for women and trying to bully girls like this into silence.” (19:12)
Sophie Cunningham:

“You can disagree and still be kind. Bravo to those young girls for standing up for what they believe.” (16:20)
Riley Gaines on Gambling Incident:

“This league is run by morons. … This is fixed betting. This is illegal.” (23:42)
“Imagine if this story involved Caitlin Clark ... It would be national outrage. … but we’re not seeing that.” (24:55)
Final Call to the WNBA:

“I really, really hope it chooses wisely because women’s sports and female athletes deserve a whole lot better than what the WNBA is giving them.” (27:15)

Segment Timestamps

Opening Critique of WNBA: 00:04–01:40
Background on Annalee Wilson’s Track Experience: 03:30–05:10
Fan Incident Recap (Teen Testimony): 05:58–08:00
Analysis of Keaton’s Behavior: 08:01–10:30
Broader Cultural Analysis & Gender Ideology: 10:31–13:06
WNBA & Sophie Cunningham Responses: 15:38–17:20
Internet & J.K. Rowling Reactions: 19:12–20:05
Riley’s Personal Commitment & Upcoming Plans: 20:35–22:55
Angel Reese, Paige Bueckers Gambling Clip: 23:13–24:40
Closing Arguments, League Accountability: 25:40–27:15

Memorable Moments

Riley’s raw condemnation of the adults berating teens, her scorched-earth assessment of Seattle’s “inclusion,” and the humorous but biting commentary on media hypocrisy.
The emotional impact of Annalee’s story, her grace under fire, and how her courage is lauded as contagious.
Riley’s rhetorical dare to WNBA players: let men play if you argue for total inclusion, knowing the outcome would expose the physical competitive gap.

This episode combines news analysis, culture war commentary, and personal encouragement for young athletes. Riley’s unapologetic tone and blend of critique with impassioned advocacy aim to embolden her listeners while drawing attention to the stakes of current controversies in women’s sports.

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Foreign.
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Just another episode of the Riley Gaines show to remind you that the wnba, the Women's National Basketball association is so unserious. My entire brand has been built on protecting women's sports. And that's not just like a slogan that I say for social media, for clicks online, like I really mean it. I want women to have the opportunity to compete and to succeed in their sport, whatever that sport maybe. But the wnba, they seem determined to sabotage itself at every single opportunity. I've said it before, I will say it again. I have never seen a league more dedicated to self imploding than the wnba. It feels like they just want to fold as an organization or a league or a business. They continue to support the wrong side of everything and now they're attacking teenagers that they disagree with. It seems like every single week it's an controversy and not even because the basketball that's being played on the court. It's because of the league and the decisions that they're making administratively. I think this league is at a crossroads. They really, really need to decide what they want to be. They can either be a professional women's basketball league or they can be an activist organization that occasionally plays basketball. And it seems as if they are hell bent on fulfilling the latter. The wnba. As far as I see it, this is how outside looking in, I view the WNBA and their target aud, their base. I see two groups. On one hand you have the disgruntled lesbians. Right. Picture like the Rosie ODonnells of the world. Like that visual you have in your head. Yeah, that. And on the other hand you have dads who enjoy taking their daughters to basketball games. Again, that's just talking about who actively tunes in to watch the games, who is showing up to to be there in person watching a game. It really falls into I think those two categories. But the WNBA seems to forget about the dads and their young daughters and the families that want to show up because their little girls play basketball and they aspire to be just like Caitlin Clark. The WNBA forgets about them. And that's been made all the more evident after this past week when you had a co owner of the Seattle storm cursing out 16 year old girls. Yes, you heard that right. If you haven't watched the news or you don't really know what I'm talking about, we've got some photos on screen of two young girls. Again, these are 16 year old girls from the state of Washington who are there courtside for the Fever, which is Indiana Fever. That's who Sophie Cunningham and Caitlin Clark play for versus the Seattle Storm game. Uh, if you're looking on screen, you can see one young girl wearing her XXXY apparel. I wish I would have worn mine today so we could match. I could match these two heroines. Uh, but you can see on screen she's holding a poster that says, thank you, Sophie, for speaking up for girls. Not a political statement, right? Super cool. These are our young high school age girls. If I had to guess, they're going into their junior year of high school next year. The girl in this photo holding the sign that says, thank you, Sophie, for standing up for girls, her name is Annalee Wilson. As I said, She's 16 years old. She runs track and field. She's from the state of Washington. So what does that combination mean? You play sports in high school in a liberal state like Washington? It means that Anna Lee Wilson has dealt with this issue, the issue of men and women's sports, or I guess in this case, boys and girls sports on a personal level, uh, Anneli Wilson, she first drew widespread attention after finishing second place at the 2024 Junior Olympic Regional 1600 meter race. And who did she finish second behind? You're right. That would be a boy. We've got a photo on screen of Annalee standing there. You can see she has a pretty defeated look on her face, taking, you know, the second place spot on the podium as she's supposed to be the rightful champion standing atop the podium. Well, a bo has taken her spot. Here's a quote from her mom. Her mom said to outkick. She's struggling with anxiety attacks and panic attacks where her mind has just gone blank. Her teachers account for wandering at school one day. She couldn't speak. She was crying. Anna Lee said everyone was just saying at the meet how all the girls, including me, just needed to suck it up and deal with it. That's the way things are. The transgender athlete was just the priority. It didn't matter how we felt. We just had to deal with it. Hearing that is sad and disappointing because it felt like they were just ignoring how we felt completely and didn't want to listen to our frustrations at all. And that's the crux of the gender ideology movement, right? It's constantly preaching of mental health. What about Annalee's mental health? Constantly preaching of inclusion. Well, what about the girl who placed ninth who didn't get to stand on the podium because to me, it appears as if she was excluded. Right. It's never about the girls, always about the boys. So you can imagine when the opportunity came to go watch Sophie Cunningham and Caitlin Clark play in her hometown in her home state of Washington and Seattle. That would be pretty exciting, especially given recently where Sophie has come out and said, look, boys should not be in girls sports. Someone like Anna Lee, that sort of courage that Sophie showed is contagious. Maybe that gave her the spark, it lit the fire under her to keep going. As you read in the article, it's easy to get down on yourself. Think about it as a 16 year old girl when you're hearing insane, inaccurate slurs about you being called every sort of phobia, every sort of ism. And then you've got this professional female athlete who finally, a professional athlete finally takes the stand. You want to go see that person play in real life with your own eyes. You make a sign, you're so excited, you've got your shirt, you expect to have a good time, right? Yeah. Well, until Celeste Keaton shows up, the co owner of the Seattle Storm. Rather than explaining what happened, let's just watch a video and hear it from Annalee and her friend's account. Tell me what happened when this woman approached you.
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Well, we were just sitting there through signs, said like, we love Sophie, like thank you Sophie, for speaking up. And so we were holding on, just watching the game again, we were being super great. We hadn't said anything to anyone else. We were being super respectful. We were just holding our signs and cheering for both teams. And this lady, older lady, comes up to us and she comes up to us and at first I think she's gonna be nice and she asked like, what are you guys doing? Something like that. Yeah. And then it was like, Jesus loves everyone. That's what she told us. And I was like, oh, I know, like I'm religious, like I know, I know. Yeah. And she's like, oh, I hope Jesus can forgive you what sin you've done. And like something like that. And then she told us that we were effing insane and that we like.
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And she went like this.
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Insane. Yeah. She's like, you have.
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You better stop this and stop pulling this.
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And for you guys, God can save you.
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She said for you to come here and pull this. She said the word.
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Did she say effing insane or no, she.
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Yeah, she said the word. Yeah, she said the word.
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It is such a sad state of affairs when two 16 year old girls, juniors in high school, let's say two 16 year old girls have to be the adults in the room and no one, no One in the stands. No one sitting beside them has the gall to defend these two girls to a fully grown, powerful in her own right. Wealthy woman, disgruntled lesbian. Oh, it's so frustrating. It is so frustrating. Let's keep watching. I will say, Annelie, when I came over, you were in tears.
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Yeah, I've never been yelled at like that. I mean, I've had people hate on me on the Internet, but, like, it doesn't really affecting as much because it's just people online. But that just took me side surprise because I thought she was gonna be nice. And then she started, like, screaming at us and cussing at us. So.
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Yeah, and so Lou said she walked away, and we thought that was kind of it. But she mentioned something to you about, like, working for the team or there
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was another lady that like, told us, like, we were able to have her opinions, but we needed to not be political about it. And I tried to explain to her I wasn't trying to be political. I was just trying to support Sophie and support the other team.
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And you were just sitting there watching.
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Yeah, we hadn't interacted with any except for, like saying, excuse me, how could
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you watch that video and listen to those two girls and see how sweet their demeanor is and their disposition is and listen to what they actually had to say. Right. She said several times, we never intended to be political. We're here to support Sophie because she supports us. You know, we were never disrespectful to anyone. How could you listen to that and call those girls any form of a derogatory slur or word or phrase? Those girls have more composure and maturity and wisdom and kindness in their pinky than Celeste Keaton has ever had in her entire lifetime. First of all, who is Celeste Keaton? I've used the phrase disgruntled lesbian. That's not hyperbole. That's what Celeste Keaton is. She's in her 60s. She's got a wife. She's morbidly obese. Again, not an exaggeration. She's. She's overweight. She's got the typical haircut. The one again, if you're not watching on YouTube.com, the one that your vision visualizing in your head. That's the exact one that Celeste Keaton has. Apparently she's like one of those kooky card readers. Tarot cards. Is that even how you say it? Who, like, can manifest and look into the future and predict the outcome of your life? I don't know. She's kooky and she's angry and she's mad and she's cursing out 16 year old girls. How miserable and insecure, quite frankly, do you have to be to do that? I can't even fathom doing that, like finding myself in this situation that Celeste Keaton found herself in where I'm like eye to eye with someone I disagree with politically. I would never, no matter who it is, it could be someone my same age, it doesn't matter. I would never curse them out like that. I mean, I can't even imagine going to someone's social media page and leaving a hate comment. Right? Because I'm a grown adult, because I'm secure with myself. I'm secure with my belief in the stance that I have taken, that I don't need to tear someone down to lift me up or to make me feel better or to condemn them to hell, which is what Celeste Keaton did saying, you know, I hope God forgives you for what you've done. What is it exactly? What? What exactly have they done, Celeste? What is it? They. Oh no, they believe there's two sexes. Guess what? So does the Bible. It goes back to the very first book. He made them male and female intentionally and uniquely in his perfect image. And how amazing is it that we have a creator who doesn't make mistakes? He just doesn't. So what exactly did they do wrong? Celeste is got it at least a little bit right saying, I hope God forgives you. I hope he forgives all of us, quite frankly, because we are all sinners, undeserving of his mercy and of his grace and of his goodness. But oh my gosh, to tell young girls, you know, I can't believe you'd come here and try this. And I hope God forgives you. What a horrible human being you are. What a horrible human being you are, Celeste. But if being heckled by a grown woman wasn't enough, how about being heckled by a grown man? We'll play it here. You leave my daughter alone. Go, go. She's a minor. Security garbage. Take the shots. Take the chance out. I just don't know how this grown man does not wither away and die out of shame. Like, how are you not so embarrassed and ashamed of yourself? How could you possibly stand there and think that you are the bigger person? How could you be proud of yourself as a grown man for saying F you and telling security to take the trash out and pointing at two 16 year old girls when grown adults feel emboldened to pick on teenage girls? There is something seriously Wrong with society. Annalise. She said that they were sat by people who were holding signs that. That indicated, you know, no hate in the United States or whatever. I just want to say the people who hold up the signs that say no hate are generally full of hate if you disagree with them. This group that endlessly lectures people on inclusion, nothing would make them happier than if Annalee and her friend and anyone who thinks like them are excluded. It is amazing how the no hate. Actually, I think one of the groups that was there to rally, I guess, in favor of men and women's sports, to put it plainly, they're called no hate in Washington State. All they do is exude hate. I think especially when you look at a city like Seattle, they have a very particular flavor of, like, closed, closed mindedness. People often expect a place that prides itself, again, on being inclusive and diverse and accepting, accepting and welcoming. They would expect a place like Seattle to be open and, again, to be welcoming because of its progressive reputation. But in reality, it's not progressive at all, actually. It feels like there's this extremely narrow, rigid set of acceptable opinions and beliefs and thoughts and behaviors and social norms, and you step outside of that unspoken script, even just a little bit, and the walls go up. And oftentimes they resort to name calling at best, actually, and violence at worst. These people, they live in this little bubble, and they literally think that anyone who doesn't agree with them is subhuman and just, like, unworthy of respect. This is the definition of incompetent, misogynistic, and just absolutely and entirely insufferable. Insufferable. They're too. I don't know if it's stupid, sorry if that sounds harsh, or like, willingly blind to recognize that they're fighting for men's rights while claiming to be feminist. Even Annalise, she said it in that video we watched. She said, I was surprised because, talking about Celeste Keaton, saying, I was surprised because she's a woman. Newsflash. It's proven itself to be true time and time and time and time again. It's always women. It's always women. Women will continue to be our own worst enemy. Our biggest hurdle as women in achieving real equality, to use their own buzzwords, is women. Whether it's the three liberal sitting Supreme Court justices who are women who vote in opposition of women having equal opportunity, privacy, safety, or people like Stephanie Dolson, people like Celeste Keaton, it's always women. Why is that? I don't know. I think we have this innate desire to Be compassionate and empathetic, emotionally driven. And I don't say those as bad things. I actually think it's a good thing as women that we innately desire to be those things. It's what makes us such good wives and friends and sisters and moms. But those words, compassion, empathy, they have been just absolutely weaponized against us. What Celeste Keaton did, although she might not think this way, she might think it was the compassionate, virtuous thing to do, it wasn't compassionate. That's not kind how she acted. Advocating for men in your daughter's locker rooms, that doesn't display empathy. Having no problem with kids as young as 9 years old cutting off healthy, functioning body parts, again, those aren't good things. We've been, I guess, like conditioned as a society to believe that they are. They're not. So just be honest with yourself. Words have real meaning. It matters. True connotation. I strive as someone to be compassionate and empathetic. I'm often demonized by the media or whoever, your favorite, like left wing pundit, to be this horrible phobicism person, whatever. I'm not. I would consider myself a compassionate, kind person. And Sophie actually said it in that piece written by ESPN last weekend saying, look, I speak the truth in love. I think the most loving, compassionate thing you can do is to tell the truth. And I think someone should tell Stephanie Dolson that. And I guess my, my last comment I want to direct to her and to this co owner of the Seattle Storm and to anyone in the WNBA who wants to listen. If you really support men and women's sports, let men play. I mean, let LeBron James on the court with your girl. Stephanie, if you have no problem with men on the court with you all as women, then allow each team that you play against for the rest of the season to have just one man on their team for the rest of the season. See how that would go. Maybe they would change their mind. I can tell you what the outcome would be. Anyone with like a fifth grade understanding of biology would tell you what the outcome would be. If even you let one boy, one man who maybe didn't quite, let's say, let's take a college place player, college basketball player, men's college basketball player who didn't quite make the league, let him play on the rest of the teams that you play for the rest of the season and let's see what happens. So curious. I am dying to know what would happen. No, we all know it's rhetorical, of course. The team with the Boy would win. And again, just to hit the point, it's not to say that women are inferior or less than. We just have different physical ceilings. We have different capabilities. There's nothing wrong with that. It's why women's sports were created, to showcase that, to highlight that, to celebrate it, to honor it and to protect it. And when we allow men into those spaces, there's no point for women's sports at all. So what happened on the back end of this, following this interaction that we saw from Celeste Keaton, namely, the WNBA offered a pretty weak apology. I'll read it to you. Says we are aware one of our co owners made comments to two fans in attendance at last night's game. We apologize that this happened. Everyone who attends a Storm game deserves to feel welcome. And we remain committed to creating an inclusive. There it is. An inclusive environment where every fan is treated with respect. Yeah, so that was like a we, we love everyone, but terms and conditions may apply. It feels like there's a clause in there. But nonetheless, WNBA did ultimately decide to suspend Celeste Keaton from the next five home games and has been fined. What's Sophie's response? And all of this because again, she's indirectly implicated in all of it. Because it goes back to her. At least the left is claiming that it does. Because those little girls who showed up in their bigoted ways, they were there to support Sophie. So what does Sophie said? Well, unsurprisingly, she's quadrupled down because she's so cool and because the hate, it just can't really break her. And she torched the Seattle Storm co owner. This was her tweet she put out. She said, I truly believe there is a safe space and love for everybody in all caps. Biological girls, biological boys, trans women and trans men. Everyone is welcome at my table. You can disagree and still be kind. Bravo to those young girls for standing up for what they believe. You'll be hearing from me soon. Yay for gifts. Truly embarrassing of the co owner. Unfortunately shows the type of leader that she is. I love that. The only thing I have to say here is Sophie, you don't have to say biological girls and biological boys or trans women or trans men for that matter. It's just men and women. That's the only two. Boys, girls, male, female. Those are the only two options. Man and woman. Everyone is welcome at my table. I'm right there with Sophie. You can disagree and still be kind. And that's how I saw Anna Lee and her friend who were sitting courtside. They were still kind. They were the ones who were civil. It was the other side who isn't. But the Internet, of course, they never miss an opportunity to tried to cancel Sophie again. It's just not really working. You can't really be canceled if you don't allow them to cancel you. This person online said Sophie Cunningham is Riley Gaines 2.0. Mind you, this has nearly 4 million views at this point. Sophie Cunningham is Riley Gaines 2.0. 10 times more bigoted and transphobic, which I take offense to, by the way. Nobody is more transphobic than me because when they say transphobic, it just really means attached to reality. Again, interchangeable. That 10 times more bigoted and transphobic, despite looking like an actual trans herself. Isn't it so funny when they do this? Right? We've been berated as a society for years if we don't say like that. This 6 foot 4 balding man who puts on a dress, if we don't call him a woman, if we don't say that he's a beautiful woman at that. And now the best insult that they can come up with is that, oh, well, you look trans. That's like the most hurtful thing that they can conjure up in their mind. It's hilarious, isn't it? It, it proves that they don't actually think that trans is like beautiful or stunning or any of the again, things that they've, we've all been conditioned to say and to think and to, to many of us believe over the past few years. The best insult that they can think is that you look trans. And I think it's hilarious. J.K. rowling, who has been just so, so great across the board, obviously she's a literary genius in her writing. She never misses the mark on X either. She tweeted the photo of Anneli holding up the sign and she said, these young women are heroines. They're peacefully protesting against the grotesque unfairness of men playing in women's sports. The only people who are effing insane here are those making a mockery of fair sport for women and trying to bully girls like this into silence. Yes, jk, she's so good. I guess I can kind of tease something. Keep your TV screens on this weekend. Maybe click on a an Indiana Fever game that's happening in Minneapolis on Sunday around 1 o'. Clock. I figure I might need to make an appearance at a WNBA game. I've never been to one before and I want to go. Those young girls, those two girls, they inspired me. The saying of courage is Contagious. Yes. It's cliche, but it's true. And those young girls, their courage has inspired me, so. Might have to just sit courtside with my girl Caitlin and Sophie. Stay tuned. The WNBA posted a video of Angel Reese and Paige Bukers betting $400 on which women's team would win games that they were involved in. By the way, let's play the video really quick. At All Star Weekend, you and angel
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made a bet with each other on this game. Is that bet? This is how the rich stay rich. You gotta save.
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You gotta save this money. I'm gonna see you next week.
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On Wednesday? Yeah. At night? No, at practice.
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Oh, at practice. I mean, I know y' all gonna lose, but you. If y' all lose.
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Okay, I get to have that. If y' all win.
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If y' all win, you get in 400.
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If. And if we lose, then you get.
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This league is run by morons. I, I, I. This, I just have no words. I have no words. This is fixed betting. This is illegal. The league deleted it really quickly after they realized that this violates league rules. So the league is so dumb, moronic, idiotic, stupid for posting this. But the players, what are y' all doing? You had to. You had to. Everyone knows that it's legal for fixed betting, and that's what this is. How stupid are you to be on video placing these bets with cash being shown and then for Angel Reese to afterwards say, I'll accept my Apple pay. And the presser, when she's asked, asked about this, players in the NFL, in the mlb, in the NBA, have missed entire seasons if not been banned from their sport for life for doing this. But there's been virtually nothing, nothing, radio silence from liberal media, liberal sports media, specifically. Imagine first, if you don't watch basketball, if you don't know who these players are, Angel Reese, who, if you're watching@YouTube.com, you saw she's a black woman. She played at LSU. Ghetto, quite frankly. She's not ghetto because she's black. She's ghetto because she's ghetto and how she talks and how she dresses. There are some things, actually, that I like about Angel Reese. I think she paid off her mom's house, which that's super cool and admirable. So I'm not on, like, an Angel Reese hate train. I'm really not. But she is. Ghetto, I think, is a, an accurate word to describe her. Not because of the color of her skin. I can already picture it. This getting clipped. Riley Gaines calls black girl ghetto. She's not ghetto because she's black. She's ghetto because she's ghetto widow. Okay? And then you have Paige Buchers, who I think is lesbian or queer or a part of that community. Imagine if this story involved Caitlin Clark. I feel bad for Caitlin Clark because so much kind of gets flipped back on her. Actually, what I'm doing right now, I feel bad because Caitlyn didn't necessarily. I mean, she didn't. She never explicitly asked for this. But I do think it's worth making, you know, highlighting the dichotomy that exists. If this story involved Caitlin Clark or better yet, Sophie Cunningham, it would be nonstop ESPN coverage. It would be national outrage. It would be wall to wall debate. It would be demands for punishment and suspension and fines. But we're not seeing that. It's radio silence. I will say, regardless of who is involved, I hope we see a full investigation on this. I think the findings should be made public. I think discipline should be had if it's warranted. And I think there should be no special treatment because. Because it's two of the left wing, crazy WNBA's stars who are, who are involved in the contention we need consistent enforcement of league rules. We've called for that with Caitlin Clark and the violence that she has faced that she has been a direct target of. And we're calling for it here. And if league leadership fails to protect competitive integrity, we need to see leadership change, Quite frankly, including the WNBA commissioner and I think even even more broader, the NBA commissioner discipline there should be on the table. It really should. Because again, at the end of the day, The NBA pours $20 million into that dumpster fire of a league every single year. If the NBA pulls their support, then maybe they will change. But the wnba, I mean, they're comfortable. They have no reason to change. But I guess last thing here, I really, I'll finish this how I started it. I want women to succeed in sports or at least to have the opportunity to succeed in sports. The wnba, they're like hanging on to this choice by a thread, but they have a choice. It can become the premier women's basketball league in the world. I think it would take leaning into Caitlin Clark, protecting her. I mean, at bare minimum, leaning into to the Sophie Cunninghams of the world or which this is more likely. Unfortunately, the WNBA can continue to alienate fans until people stop paying attention altogether. I really, really hope it chooses wisely because women's sports and female athletes deserve a whole lot better than what the WNBA is giving them. Thank you guys for watching the Riley Gaines Show. You can subscribe right here. We have new episodes every single Tuesday and Friday at 10:00am Eastern Time. And we are covering everything from pop culture to politics to deep div lives to motherhood. It's sports. All of that and more. We want to hear from you though. What is it that you want to hear? Comment down below. We can't wait to see you next time.