Martyn Briggs, Director, Thematic Investing Strategy, Bank of America joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy podcast to discuss why Physical AI is no longer a concept on the horizon but an era that continues to emerge across humanoids, autonomous vehicles, drones, and industrial robotics.

AI has left the chat, and is moving from digital text-based intelligence to the physical world. Last year, 20,000 humanoids were manufactured, 80 percent of which were in China. The market for humanoids is projected to grow exponentially to 1.2 million by 2030 and 10 million by 2035, driven by falling component costs, simulation-to-real transfer breakthroughs, and the convergence of generative AI with robotics.

Across the autonomous vehicle landscape, L2+ advanced driver assistance is emerging as the trust gateway to full L4 autonomy. As consumers grow comfortable with supervised automation on highways, the path to trusting robotaxis becomes shorter and shorter. The physical AI opportunity extends well beyond the United States, with Europe and the UK positioned to deploy robotaxis as an economic driver across dense urban corridors.

Episode Chapters

0:00 AUTNMY AI

00:24 Physical AI Primer

07:51 Open Source Physical AI Models

12:46 The ChatGPT Moment for Robotics

15:56 Scaling Humanoids

27:17 Capital Flowing to Embodied AI

29:28 Fleet Infrastructure, Real Estate & Charging

31:43 OEM Struggles, Consumer Demand for L4

42:08 Waymo in London & Europe's Robotaxi Opportunity

49:16 UAE as a Global Autonomy Market

52:14 Autonomous Trucking

57:30 Drones and Scaling Physical AI

59:53 The Future of Physical AI

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