In this special episode, I sit down with Dr. Todd Surovell, professor of anthropology at the University of Wyoming, to discuss new research that re-examines Monte Verde using modern geoarchaeological methods. The results suggest that the famous site may actually be much younger than previously believed, dating to the Holocene rather than the Ice Age.

If true, this would mean that Monte Verde is not evidence for pre-Clovis humans in South America, and it could force archaeologists to reconsider one of the most influential discoveries in American archaeology.

We discuss:

The history of the Monte Verde discovery
Why it reshaped textbooks in the 1990s
How new geological and dating analyses challenge the original interpretation
What this means for Clovis-first vs. pre-Clovis models
Why independent verification and skepticism are essential in science
This episode explores how science evolves—and how even the most famous discoveries can be re-examined.

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