Amelia Gray Hamlin Is Tired of Your Misconceptions

Summary

Podcast Summary: Amelia Gray Hamlin Is Tired of Your Misconceptions

Episode Information:

• Title: Amelia Gray Hamlin Is Tired of Your Misconceptions
• Podcast: The Run-Through with Vogue
• Hosts: Chioma Nnadi, Chloe Malle, Nicole Phelps
• Release Date: March 4, 2025

Introduction

In this engaging episode of The Run-Through with Vogue, Vogue editors and host Chloe Malle sit down with the multifaceted model Amelia Gray Hamlin to delve into her experiences in the fashion industry, her personal journey, and the misconceptions surrounding her persona. The conversation offers a candid glimpse into Amelia's life both on and off the runway, highlighting her passion for fashion, her dedication to her craft, and her efforts to redefine how she's perceived by the public.

Meeting at the World Trade Center

The episode begins with reminiscing about Amelia's first encounter with Willow Lindley at the World Trade Center, just days before last year's Met Gala.

• Willow Lindley [01:14]: "Amelia, we are so happy to have you here at the studio... When we first met, actually in this building, was that the first time you'd come to the building?"

• Amelia Gray [03:30]: "Very well."

Amelia recounts being fresh off a flight from Chanel in Marseille and the memorable experience of trying on the iconic undercover light-up terrarium dress.

The Terrarium Dress Experience

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the challenges and memories associated with the terrarium dress Amelia wore to the Met Gala.

• Amelia Gray [02:05]: "It's so nice to meet you, Amelia."

• Willow Lindley [02:08]: "And Amelia was such a trooper because that dress was... an actual terrarium."

Amelia reflects on the technical difficulties with the dress, including issues with the electrical strips that prevented the lights from turning on. This led to improvising by practicing her walk in the cafeteria, navigating the challenges of both the dress's rigidity and the psychological pressure of the event.

• Amelia Gray [03:26]: "They broke it down a lot. I had no idea what to expect... It ended up actually being qu. Which was nice because I had space to put padding and protect my hips."

Couture Journey and Runway Dreams

Amelia shares her awe and gratitude for being part of the couture world, particularly her experiences with renowned designers like Jean Paul Gaultier and Chanel.

• Amelia Gray [05:35]: "Jean Paul Gaultier was actually my first ever couture show... having these insane couture moments, I'm still not really."

Her disbelief at walking multiple Chanel shows underscores her humility and astonishment at her career trajectory.

• Amelia Gray [06:15]: "I've done, I think, 11 Chanel shows. I don't understand."

Character Work and Runway Persona

Drawing from her upbringing in a household of actors, Amelia discusses how she channels different characters for each runway show, making every performance unique.

• Amelia Gray [10:54]: "The character is all dependent on the outfit that I'm given... I'm always like, listen, I'm gonna do my best."

She explains that her passion lies not just in the clothes but in the collaborative art of fashion, emphasizing the authentic and energizing experiences when she fully embodies the character dictated by her attire.

• Amelia Gray [11:48]: "When I'm really passionate about an outfit, then it just makes the experience so much more beautiful and authentic to me."

Navigating Relationships in the Modeling World

Amelia opens up about the complexities of dating within the modeling industry, likening it to high school dynamics where maintaining relationships can be challenging and emotionally taxing.

• Amelia Gray [20:12]: "The thing about this industry is it's very adjacent similar to high school... I've dated people in the industry. I'm very private about my dating life..."

She offers insightful advice on finding partners who understand the demands of a model's lifestyle, emphasizing the importance of shared schedules and mutual support.

• Amelia Gray [22:05]: "Finding someone who has a similar life to you, but that isn't a model."

Personal Anecdotes and Fun Stories

Amelia shares lighthearted stories from her career, including her first subway ride for a Vogue shoot and the playful interactions with children inspired by her runway personas.

• Amelia Gray [17:30]: "I was rolling around. I touched everything."

A particularly heartwarming moment involves a child recognizing her as her Violet from The Incredibles, highlighting the impact of her work on young fans.

• Amelia Gray [19:03]: "He was like, do you have your superpowers with you?"

Challenges and Public Perception

Addressing the misconceptions and harsh judgments she faces, Amelia discusses the struggle of maintaining her true personality amidst public scrutiny and the fabricated narratives often portrayed online.

• Amelia Gray [25:18]: "It's been really hard for me, being told who I am... I have this opportunity to change their mind about me because everything that they had in their head was like this false, made up, just like perspective of me that doesn't exist."

She emphasizes the importance of a strong support system and maintaining a positive outlook to navigate the inevitable rejections and challenges of the industry.

• Amelia Gray [23:30]: "Rejection is hard for anyone in any industry. But I think it's all about perspective."

Notable Quotes

• Amelia Gray [08:47]: "My dad always said, if you love what you do, you'll never work a day in your life."

• Amelia Gray [17:05]: "Nothing matters."

• Amelia Gray [22:13]: "It's just all about... finding someone who has a similar life to you, but that isn't a model."

Conclusion

The episode concludes with reflections on happiness and fulfillment within the high-paced world of fashion. Amelia's candidness about her experiences, both triumphant and challenging, provides listeners with a nuanced understanding of the modeling industry and the person behind the runway persona. Her journey underscores the importance of passion, resilience, and authenticity in carving out a successful and fulfilling career in fashion.

Production Credits

The Run-Through with Vogue is produced by Chelsea Daniel, Alex DePalma, and Joanna Solotaro; engineered by Jake Loomis and James Yost; mixed by Mike Kutchman; executive produced by Stephanie Kariuki; and overseen by Chris Bannon, Conde Nast's head of Global Audio.

Additional Insights

Throughout the episode, the hosts and Amelia intertwine professional experiences with personal stories, painting a comprehensive picture of her life in fashion. From technical mishaps with high-concept dresses to the camaraderie among fashion insiders, the conversation highlights the multifaceted nature of Amelia's career and her determination to redefine misconceptions about her persona.

Final Thoughts

Amelia Gray Hamlin's appearance on The Run-Through with Vogue serves as an inspiring testament to her dedication and love for the fashion industry. By addressing and dispelling common misconceptions, she not only humanizes the model behind the glamorous facade but also encourages a more authentic and supportive environment within the fashion world.

Transcript

[Arden Fanning Andrews]

This episode of the Run through is brought to you by ebay. I'm Arden Fanning Andrews, Vogue's beauty editor at large. Everyone's talking about tassels right now, and that's the moment that I end up typing it into ebay. I found the perfect vintage triple chain belt with golden tassels, and it just looks so elegant, timeless. And it's on the way in the mail to me, thanks to ebay.

[Chloe Mel]

This is the Run Through. I'm Chloe Mel, and we are continuing our Fashion Week coverage with a special episode with model Amelia Gray. She spoke to Vogue's Willow Lindley and Irene Kim and it was such a treat. I loved listening to this. They really painted an incredible scene of Emelia being such a good sport, trying on the incredible undercover light up terrarium dress that she wore to last year's Met Gala. I think a scrooge driver was involved for Willow, not the cocktail. And they also chatted about the incredible fashion shows she's walked in her dream Runway. She would like to walk. And also what it's like dating as a model. Fraught, in fact.

[Willow Lindley]

Amelia, we are so happy to have you here at the studio. I'm very happy to see you. Welcome, welcome. It's great to see you again. When we first met, actually in this building, was that the first time you'd come to the building? Okay, so the first time Emelia and I met, we had Amelia come to the World Trade center for the first time, and it was ahead of the Met Gala last year.

[Amelia Gray]

It was three days ahead.

[Willow Lindley]

It was three days ahead. You were fresh off a flight from Chanel Marseille. Yep, yep. And we had quite a dress for you to try.

[Amelia Gray]

Well, the first time I met you, you were pretty much on the floor under my dress, screwing me in.

[Willow Lindley]

Exactly. And most dresses don't require screwdrivers in my. You know, I've been at Vogue for 10 years. It was the first time I had to ask maintenance for a screwdriver.

[Amelia Gray]

Screwdrivers. Or a beautiful blonde woman on the floor looking up your skirt. Looking up your skirt.

[Willow Lindley]

Hi.

[Amelia Gray]

Nice to meet you.

[Willow Lindley]

It's so nice to meet you, Amelia.

[Irene Kim]

Yeah.

[Willow Lindley]

And Amelia was such a trooper because that dress was. Was a terrarium. It was an undercover dress that was in the exhibition. It was actually the dress that was the COVID of the catalog too, which was very impressive, but it was an actual terrarium. And so it was Plexiglas or plastic or a variety of things. And you kindly held it up while I screwed you in from a variety of gotta Help a sister out, you know? And you held it. You held it together.

[Amelia Gray]

Well.

[Willow Lindley]

And then do you remember what we did after we screwed in the dress?

[Amelia Gray]

We turned the lights on.

[Willow Lindley]

Well, no, we couldn't turn the lights on. So there were electrical strips in the dress that we couldn't figure out how to turn on. But we made you go to the cafeteria and practice walking up and down the stairs.

[Irene Kim]

Of course, they told me, don't go to the cafeteria. Because they were like, someone's gonna be in their Met gal outfit. And you can't look Met fitting.

[Amelia Gray]

It's interesting. Cause I don't think many people know, like, the story behind that Met look. And it's interesting that right now. What is it now? It's February, and I'm already having conversations of the Met. Blessed, by the way. Blessed dreams come true. But last year, I didn't have conversations about the Met until four days before the Met, in which I was told that I needed to fly to New York and try on this dress.

[Irene Kim]

Crazy.

[Amelia Gray]

And that if the dress fit me, then I could go, yes.

[Irene Kim]

So it's very Cinderella.

[Amelia Gray]

Very well.

[Willow Lindley]

I didn't know that they had really broken it down that much.

[Amelia Gray]

Oh, they broke it down.

[Willow Lindley]

Yeah.

[Amelia Gray]

And I was just like, you know what? If it's meant to be, it's gonna be. I had no idea what to expect. I didn't know if the dress would be the size of, like, a pinky finger or if it would be huge. And it ended up actually being qu. Which was nice because I had space to put padding and protect my hips. Cause it was hard as a rock.

[Willow Lindley]

It was hard as a rock.

[Amelia Gray]

Yeah. But an incredible memory.

[Willow Lindley]

And then tell us a little bit of the day of the Met experience, because I heard there was an electrician involved.

[Amelia Gray]

God bless the Carlisle Hotel. I walked into my room because I actually had a photo shoot also the day of the Met for Katie. Grand. Perfect. Anything for Katie. So I Woke up at 5 that day. Shot. Went straight to the Carlisle after shooting. And there was an electrician in my room. And he was the electrician from the Carlisle. I'm horrible with names, and I sadly forgot his name. But we love him so much, and we made sure.

[Willow Lindley]

We all love him so much.

[Amelia Gray]

We made sure we took care of him. And he was in my room for, like, two hours, like, going downstairs, getting parts, coming back up, going downstairs, coming back up.

[Willow Lindley]

All for the terrarium dress.

[Amelia Gray]

All for the terrarium.

[Irene Kim]

I mean, it was incredible. So it was worth it.

[Amelia Gray]

It really was.

[Irene Kim]

And speaking of experiences, we've been loving seeing photos of and videos of you at, you know, Couture. How was it?

[Amelia Gray]

Couture was amazing. I think for me. I still can't really wrap my head around the fact that I do couture and that that's my life. I dreamt, and I still dream of so many things. But that being said, I think there were dreams that almost felt too far away, if that makes sense. I'm very well aware of the fact that I'm a Nepo baby, and I'm extremely grateful for that. I'm aware of everything that I. But couture was just never something I thought I would be accepted into. So Jean Paul Gaultier was actually my first ever couture show.

[Willow Lindley]

What was that?

[Amelia Gray]

Heider Ackerman. Oh, that's a good one. Which was. Oh, my gosh. Like. And Heider had already been someone that I had looked up to so, so much and just, like, so beautiful. His idea of a woman. And I hadn't even known him as a human being yet. And then it just takes it to another level. Cause he's one of the most incredible people, I think, in this industry. But so I was always a fan, and so to have that moment was just insane. And then to now continue having these insane couture moments, I'm still not really. I don't understand how this is my life. And that being said, I really don't understand that. I walk Chanel.

[Irene Kim]

Yeah, that's major.

[Amelia Gray]

Like, I've done, I think, 11 Chanel shows. I don't understand.

[Willow Lindley]

There's couture, and then there's Chanel couture.

[Irene Kim]

And every Chanel couture, we see your Runway photo.

[Amelia Gray]

I don't get it. I don't get it. Like, how is, like, it's so insane to me. And I love what I do so much. Like, to be able to do all these different runways and couture for brands that I felt were too big to dream about is just crazy. And it's like, pinch me. Wake me up from the dream.

[Willow Lindley]

You know, you're fitting at Vogue World, actually, which happened during last couture.

[Amelia Gray]

Oh, my gosh.

[Willow Lindley]

Was one of my favorite.

[Amelia Gray]

You were wearing 1920.

[Willow Lindley]

Exactly. And your excitement over that dress, I mean, we were doing a million fittings a day in the West Indies, and it was such a crazy environment. And it was. You know, what's so great is it can start to feel a bit run of the mill, right? You're just doing fittings and you're busy, and you're Running around, and then you come in, and you were such a ray of sun, and you were so excited about the dress, and you were so excited that the Chanel team was there fixing the beading. And it was very special to watch. Your reaction to that 1920s vintage dress. It was a recreation of a vintage dress.

[Amelia Gray]

Right. Which was insane. Thank you for saying that. You know, I think it's really interesting, because the career that I have and the industry that I'm in, it's not usually one that people choose. Almost every girl's story is, I was walking on the street, and someone scouted me, but that's completely opposite to my story. I scouted everyone else. Like, I had already known that this is what I wanted to do since I was five years old. I have no idea why. I swear, like, I have this intuitive feeling that, like, either I was a model in my past life and I died, like, maybe Gia. Okay, don't come for me. But I'm just saying, it's just an idea.

[Willow Lindley]

We're just spitballing.

[Amelia Gray]

It's just an idea. Okay. And Many lives, many masters. My new favorite book. This one woman has had 86 lives. I'm just saying, it could have been one.

[Willow Lindley]

Yep.

[Amelia Gray]

But that being said, I went out and had to, like, find everyone. And so my story's different, but also my passion is different. And I think that I don't really understand how a lot of the girls don't feel the same way that I do, because to me, it's so exciting, and it's my dream, and it's what I love to do, and I could not imagine doing anything really else. I mean, I feel really lucky that I love what I do. My dad always said, if you love what you do, you'll never work a day in your life.

[Irene Kim]

Love that.

[Amelia Gray]

So.

[Willow Lindley]

And it's so nice to meet fashion obsessives, I think. I think we all can get busy, and it can feel like a lot, and it's so nice to remember why we're here.

[Amelia Gray]

Yeah. And I don't think I'm necessarily obsessed with fashion in itself, which is interesting, because I was reading this interview that Lata did, and I'm not sure her exact verbatim, but she said something like, I just love clothes or something like that. And I think, for me, I'm the opposite. Like, I don't really care about clothes that much. I love the art and collaborative experience that takes place in fashion, and I love women. And I think that. I mean, it's true that fashion is one of the only industries where women make more and are sort of on the pedestal more. And I think that that's such a beautiful thing. And that's also why I love doing it. And I love the people. There's good people in fashion.

[Willow Lindley]

Yeah. Before we move on, I do wanna ask, are you excited for Heider's Tom Ford? Because you brought him up.

[Amelia Gray]

I am so excited for Heider's Tom Ford. You know, it's funny because I have been to the Tom Ford casting every single time I land in Milan since my career started. And I have gotten so close to getting it. They fit me in clothes, this and that, na, na, na. And I've never gotten it because it's always just been one person doesn't support me, which is fine. I love a challenge. Like, make it harder for me because it's so boring if you get everything all at once like that. You know, careful what I wish for. I need to, like, careful what I put out there. But, you know, you have to work for things. And I think that hopefully I can finally do Tom Ford.

[Willow Lindley]

Okay.

[Irene Kim]

Crossing it.

[Willow Lindley]

We're manifesting it here.

[Amelia Gray]

Manifesting.

[Irene Kim]

And it's in Paris, so that's exciting.

[Amelia Gray]

Oh, my gosh. Wait, I didn't know that.

[Irene Kim]

Yeah, you heard it here first.

[Amelia Gray]

Yay.

[Irene Kim]

So Vogue France did a really fun video with you where they spent 24 hours with you. And you said before you go on the Runway, you like to channel a character.

[Amelia Gray]

Yeah.

[Irene Kim]

Who are some of the characters you channel and what are you thinking about in your mind when you're walking?

[Amelia Gray]

You know, the character is all dependent on the outfit that I'm given. And I think that I was raised, obviously, in a household of actors. But that being said, I was also raised to be an actress. I was forced. I really did not like this growing up, but I'm so grateful for it now. I was forced to do plays. I have done, like, 11 or 12 musicals, and I always played a man.

[Willow Lindley]

Who's your favorite man that you played?

[Amelia Gray]

I played Teddy Roosevelt for Annie. Was that the Roosevelt that was in Annie? I was in a wheelchair. And then for High School Musical, my sister was Troy Bolton and I was Mr. Fulton.

[Willow Lindley]

I love this.

[Irene Kim]

That's amazing.

[Amelia Gray]

The way that I work is just very like an actor in the sense that, like, no Runway that I go on is ever really the same. And I don't really think about my walk ever, unless it was, like, the Chanel show. For your couture that we did last week was probably one of the hardest shows I've ever done in my career because it was uphill. And so Both of the Cs were uphill and then downhill. And we had to do both Cs. So we did that essentially four times. Cause the show is twice. So my shin splints were like on fire because we couldn't bend our knees going uphill because we had to look Chanel. So it's like going uphil. So that is hard. And when it's hard, I'm in my head and I have weird thoughts. Just kind of like, Amelia, you got this. You're almost done. Like you can breathe at the end. Like just hold it in. But like for instance, the Gaultier show, I didn't have anything going through my mind during it. And I think that's when it's really such a beautiful experience and an energizing experience. When it's just like you put the outfit on and the character is already in you. It's not even like I'm necessarily thinking about the character that I'm gonna portray. It's all about the outfit and that is the character. And so I think that when I'm really passionate about an outfit, then it just makes the experience so much more beautiful and authentic to me. But you never really know what you're gonna get when you go out there. It's always different than rehearsal. And I'm always like, listen, I'm gonna do my best.

[Willow Lindley]

We're just gonna see.

[Amelia Gray]

We're going to wing it, we're going to see. And yeah.

[Irene Kim]

Do you try to like, like see your mom from the corner of your eye?

[Amelia Gray]

I tried, I tried. But you know, she didn't warn me that she was wearing a blonde insane wig. So I'm looking for Lisa Rena hair and I couldn't find her because she wasn't there. There was a different woman there.

[Irene Kim]

Yeah. And your mom, she said she cried when she watched you, which was so sweet. Like, is it like comforting to have your mom at the shows? And she's always with you. You guys are shopping, eating.

[Amelia Gray]

She's my bff. Like I am so beyond grateful to have her as a mother in this life. And I truly do believe that I chose her. I don't know if those are your guys beliefs, but that is mine. Like I chose this woman to be my mom. But side note, my dad doesn't get enough credit. And he's great too.

[Willow Lindley]

Love him.

[Amelia Gray]

Takes time.

[Irene Kim]

His pasta sauce is.

[Amelia Gray]

Got it last night.

[Irene Kim]

Yes.

[Amelia Gray]

I so good.

[Willow Lindley]

I should have last time.

[Amelia Gray]

I know. Shoot.

[Irene Kim]

Cuz I heard Harry Hamlin's pasta is so good that, like, people take it home after they leave your house, but.

[Willow Lindley]

Okay, maybe he should come in. We can do a now serving.

[Amelia Gray]

Oh, my God.

[Willow Lindley]

With the two of you.

[Irene Kim]

That'd be cute.

[Willow Lindley]

Great.

[Chloe Mel]

More with Amelia Gray after a quick break.

[Arden Fanning Andrews]

I like ebay for one of a kind items. Things that feel limited edition or collections that can't be found in stores. And with the ebay authenticity guarantee, I know that when it arrives, it's real. It is a piece that is coming from the designer's collection, the designer's archive. One of the biggest conversation points for some of the parties that I'll go to during fashion Week are the pieces that I'm getting off of ebay. Everyone's a little bit intrigued and excited whenever they hear that you were able to find something on this digital treasure hunt.

[Willow Lindley]

We had such a blast on the subway.

[Amelia Gray]

On the subway.

[Willow Lindley]

Can I break the news that it was your first subway ride on this podcast?

[Amelia Gray]

Well, technically, it was my second.

[Willow Lindley]

Okay, but the first was your second.

[Amelia Gray]

I'm gonna get stuck so much shift.

[Willow Lindley]

No, the first with your sister. You're a new New Yorker.

[Amelia Gray]

I was the first with my sister.

[Willow Lindley]

Yeah.

[Amelia Gray]

Yeah. But also now. People have been seeing the news. Guys.

[Irene Kim]

Oh, no. I want to live.

[Amelia Gray]

I love the ferry. I know.

[Arden Fanning Andrews]

Fair takes the ferry.

[Willow Lindley]

Yeah. We talk.

[Irene Kim]

Sometimes I walk and to. I walk further down to Brooklyn, so I'm on the subway for as little time as possible. It's scary.

[Amelia Gray]

No, I need to take the ferry with you. Now that I'm a BK girl.

[Willow Lindley]

Exactly. So we're BK girls. But. But this. We had a really fun. It was for our February issue, and we went down into that subway.

[Amelia Gray]

We went down.

[Willow Lindley]

You and Delilah?

[Amelia Gray]

Yep.

[Willow Lindley]

It was so fun.

[Amelia Gray]

Our first Vogue shoot together.

[Willow Lindley]

Your first Vogue shoot together. We were gossiping about boys the entire time.

[Amelia Gray]

Have a lot to tell you, by the way.

[Willow Lindley]

I'm so excited. Off air conversation. And we had so much fun. You almost touched the ground of the subway.

[Amelia Gray]

Well, you know, I was gonna just, like, harp on that for a second because it's so funny. Cause when I'm myself, like when I'm Emelia, just a girl, I am so afraid of germs. And I don't like being dirty, and I don't like weird feelings on my body. Like, I don't like to be all oily and weird and, like, dirty. But when I'm Emelia Gray at work, nothing matters.

[Willow Lindley]

Nothing matters.

[Amelia Gray]

Tell me why I was touching every single subway rail.

[Willow Lindley]

Nope.

[Amelia Gray]

It was giving Me, I could have rolled around.

[Willow Lindley]

You were rolling around.

[Amelia Gray]

I was.

[Willow Lindley]

I have video.

[Amelia Gray]

Yeah. I was rolling around. I touched everything.

[Willow Lindley]

And Delilah laid down.

[Amelia Gray]

Delilah laid down.

[Willow Lindley]

She laid down.

[Amelia Gray]

I mean, there's some crazy things that I do that I would never do in my real life.

[Irene Kim]

Well, the photos came out great, so.

[Willow Lindley]

And just in case you thought we'd shut down a subway car, there were other riders.

[Arden Fanning Andrews]

Right.

[Willow Lindley]

But we went far.

[Amelia Gray]

Three stops. Maybe four.

[Willow Lindley]

Maybe four.

[Amelia Gray]

Yeah.

[Irene Kim]

It was probably their first time seeing a supermodel and Prada.

[Amelia Gray]

Right?

[Willow Lindley]

Yeah. Irene was very nervous that we'd taken the Prada looks and the Burberry look on her sister on the subway. Irene was having. And then I'll talk about the clothes.

[Irene Kim]

Yeah. I was like, sometimes you sit on the subway and you sit on water.

[Amelia Gray]

No, we took some clean carts. But it's also interesting because I'm so shy in my real life, and, like, I don't want people looking at me, and I don't want to cause a scene, and I don't like trespassing or doing things that aren't right. But then it's like, here I am on the subway. I mean, I did a way crazier thing than the subway last week in Paris, where I was painted gold, head to toe, naked at the Pompidou Museum, and I had to go to Gaultier in an hour, and now I'm painted gold, and I ran through the Pompidou Museum with Louis Vuitton Murakami bags covering my boobs.

[Willow Lindley]

Okay.

[Amelia Gray]

There were people in the museum. There were children, and I'm pretty sure I traumatized them, and everyone saw that. But to me, when I'm at work, nobody's watching me, and I don't care.

[Willow Lindley]

You're in the zone.

[Amelia Gray]

I'm in the zone.

[Willow Lindley]

You're in a character.

[Amelia Gray]

But if that was, like, my real life painted gold naked, I would have cry.

[Willow Lindley]

It's a weird way to go to a museum if you're just, like, strolling through on a Sunday.

[Amelia Gray]

Right.

[Willow Lindley]

But no judgment. I mean, you do you. Speaking of children you haven't traumatized and characters you've played, when we were on that shoot, I heard a really cute story that you saw Candice Swanepoel's kids, and they had seen a picture of.

[Amelia Gray]

You as Violet from the Incredibles. Oh, my God. And Candace was showing her son a picture of me on the plane, being like, this is who we're gonna work with. And it was the violet picture of me. And he was like, mommy, does she have superpowers so he came up to me and he was like, do you have your superpowers with you? And I was like, you know, I need my suit to have my invisible bubble powers. But next time, I promised him that next time I see him, I will have my suit and my powers. So, Candace, I can never see your son again.

[Willow Lindley]

It's off the table. Yes. That is the cutest story ever.

[Irene Kim]

That's so cute. But maybe next Halloween you can dress up in Go, Right? Yeah.

[Amelia Gray]

I need to, like, figure out the superpower part. But yeah, a little time. A little time.

[Chloe Mel]

The run through will be back in just a moment.

[Willow Lindley]

Do you have a Valentine, Amelia?

[Amelia Gray]

Maybe. Yeah, maybe.

[Willow Lindley]

But drop some hints.

[Irene Kim]

Yes.

[Amelia Gray]

The thing about this industry is it's very adjacent similar to high school. And I went to an all girls school. And I kept thinking to myself, why did I go to an all girls school? What was my lesson in going to an all girls school? Because I really hated that. And now I realize it was to prep me for the all girls school that is my life. Which is great. But I think that it's interesting navigating this industry because it's similar to high school in the sense that you feel like you need to be friends with all the people at your school and you need to sit with the cool girls at lunch and. And I did that. I did that. I've dated people in the industry. I'm very private about my dating life after one situation that I had. So I learned a lot. But, you know, I don't think I'll ever do that again. It's hard. You have to go to school with them again. And, you know, we change in front of each other and that's really awkward when you're broken up with someone to see them naked and have them see you naked. So that's interesting. Yeah, this industry is very interesting.

[Willow Lindley]

And it definitely forces an issue.

[Amelia Gray]

Yeah. And you know, just the people from the outside have no idea.

[Willow Lindley]

No.

[Amelia Gray]

Like, sometimes I'm just like the comments that I get on TikTok and the things I'm just like, you guys have no idea.

[Willow Lindley]

Oh, I love.

[Amelia Gray]

And it's important to find someone who also travels a lot, I feel. Because it's really hard to be in a relationship when you're the only person leaving. Cause that's like a whole weird guilt thing. And like, you just need someone that's as busy as you if you're busier. And so I'm not the only one leaving or unable to.

[Willow Lindley]

To participate.

[Amelia Gray]

To participate, which is really nice. And I think it's just all about. Yeah. Finding someone who has a similar life to you, but that isn't a model.

[Willow Lindley]

Okay, good advice. Yeah, I like that. I mean, you're very introspective and very positive, which I really appreciate, because I think as a model and as someone who works in fashion, it's. I don't want to say it's a negative industry, but it is a small world. Right. And it is a bit of a cliquey girls school sometimes.

[Amelia Gray]

Very much.

[Willow Lindley]

And not just the girls, but I think it's really important to keep such a positive attitude. And I appreciate your positive attitude.

[Amelia Gray]

Thank you. Willow.

[Willow Lindley]

Is there anything that you do to keep that up? Because I'm sure not every day is sunbeams and roses.

[Amelia Gray]

No, it can be hard. I think that a support system, a beautiful support system, a positive support system is so important. And I'm really blessed to have such a strong, beautiful group of amazing women around me. My mom raised me, and it was so annoying growing up, like, think positively, think positively, think positively. And sometimes I was like, but, Mom.

[Willow Lindley]

I had a good day.

[Amelia Gray]

I don't want to. There's little things that I say to myself that I do. Rituals that I have to keep on track. And I think that, you know, rejection is hard for anyone in any industry. But I think it's all about perspective.

[Willow Lindley]

In my career, I've always been a yes person, Right. So if you say yes to doing things, you tend to learn new skills that you don't even know exist.

[Amelia Gray]

I'm a big yes person, and it gets me in trouble sometimes. Sometimes my agents are like, girl, why are you staying gold in the pumpy doo naked? You have an hour to get to the show.

[Willow Lindley]

We got to get that gold off.

[Amelia Gray]

It was a whole thing. Three people had to help me shower. I showered in the security corridors with my humpy doo. It was, like, intense.

[Irene Kim]

But you still made it.

[Amelia Gray]

I need to write a book.

[Willow Lindley]

No kidding.

[Amelia Gray]

Cause I have done some weird stuff.

[Willow Lindley]

Yeah.

[Amelia Gray]

And then I had to go to the doctor yesterday. Cause turns out I'm, like, allergic to whatever they put on me.

[Willow Lindley]

The gold paint? Yes. Oh, no.

[Amelia Gray]

Apparently it's, like, really toxic and scary. Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, I used one. I mean, I think they used one that was fine, but. But I don't know. Like, the wizard of Oz has some crazy stories about being gold. And I didn't really think about it in the moment. They also asked to paint me silver at the end of the shoot. At that time. By that time, it was 3am and it was the last day. That was like a couple days ago. Yeah. Anyways. Yeah, I do some crazy things.

[Irene Kim]

Would you ever have cameras follow you around?

[Amelia Gray]

You know, it would make for a great reality show. But I think it's not my path in this life for now at least. I think it's almost interesting that people don't really know my personality. And I like that people have so many ideas of me on the Internet, which we could go into for hours. And it's weird when people try to tell you who you are. And it's scary because sometimes you can start believing it. Especially in a case that I've had for the past couple years that have a lot to do with my eyebrows.

[Willow Lindley]

Really?

[Amelia Gray]

I love that you don't know.

[Willow Lindley]

I have no idea. I'm so sorry. Irene knows.

[Irene Kim]

She's nodding.

[Amelia Gray]

Yeah, I see. Irene, everyone knows. And that has been. What was I talking about? I don't know. But that has been really hard for me, being told who I am and being told that I do things and Na, na, na. Because you can really start to believe these people. And like, I don't know, I like to keep my personality and my heart private because people are so mean. But it's also almost like this fun little game. Like everyone thinks that I'm gonna be so horrible and like diva on set or like when they meet me. And then people meet me and it's like I have this opportunity to change their mind about me because everything that they had in their head was like this false, made up, just like perspective of me that doesn't exist.

[Willow Lindley]

Is that cause you're a model or because you grew up in an industry around reality tv?

[Amelia Gray]

That's. Cause I grew up in an industry around reality TV and people just wanted to not like me.

[Irene Kim]

Yeah.

[Amelia Gray]

You know, but like I said, I love a challenge.

[Willow Lindley]

Yeah. I was gonna say, do you like a low expectation? Do you like just.

[Amelia Gray]

Yeah, because I was. It's funny. Cause I was talking to Guido the other day at the Gauzier show. I was showing him a video of me painted gold. Cause I was late, obviously, to the show.

[Willow Lindley]

Right.

[Amelia Gray]

Cause I was gold.

[Willow Lindley]

Cause you were showering in a security cor.

[Amelia Gray]

Right. The Pompidou gold. And I was showing Guido and everyone this video of me running through the Pompidou Gold. I'll show you after. It's insane. And he was just like, you know, you really love a challenge, don't you? Like, you're the girl that loves a challenge. And it's getting me in trouble, but at the same time, I love that.

[Willow Lindley]

But you're particularly nice to work with. Yeah, you and you should know that.

[Amelia Gray]

Well, thanks to my mom and my dad, they raised me really well. And it's all about. It comes down to loving what you do.

[Willow Lindley]

So here's to happiness going into Fashion Month.

[Amelia Gray]

Here's to happiness.

[Willow Lindley]

To happy month.

[Amelia Gray]

You do.

[Willow Lindley]

Yeah.

[Amelia Gray]

Yay.

[Chloe Mel]

That's it for the Run through. See you tomorrow, everyone. The Run through is produced by Chelsea Daniel, Alex DePalma and Joanna Solotaro. It's engineered by Jake Loomis and James Yost. It is mixed by Mike Kutchman. Stephanie Kariuki is our executive producer and Chris Bannon is Conde Nast's head of Global audio.

[Arden Fanning Andrews]

The other day, I, like, went on a real ebay spree. There's this huge push for like 80s opulence and 80s sort of glamour and we're going to see that returning. And so I was already kind of tapped into that just from my gorgeous ebay watch list. And I found a really beautiful Chloe blazer from the 80s and a really great Miu Miu kilt, these great Dior boots. And I'm combining them all together. Sometimes trend forecasting doesn't require something that's going to be, like, produced in the future. Sometimes you can, like, tap into the past and tap into the archive as well. That's what makes ebay a fun place to actually discover things, because you're not going in with something so specific in mind, but you have an idea of what you're interested in or what you're excited about or, you know, just truly trend forecasting. And so one thing that I would say people should be watching out for is like very opulent 80s style.

[Willow Lindley]

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