Everything Vogue Editors Can’t Wait To Watch And Read This Fall

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The Run-Through with Vogue

Episode: Everything Vogue Editors Can’t Wait To Watch And Read This Fall
Date: October 21, 2025
Hosts: Chioma Nnadi (“Cho Menardi”), Head of British Vogue; Taylor Antrim, Deputy Editor, Vogue; Chloe Sharma, Senior Editor, Vogue

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Brief Overview

This week, The Run-Through offers an energetic, culture-packed preview of the films, TV, theater, books, music, and art that Vogue editors are most excited about for Fall 2025. Hosts Chioma, Taylor, and Chloe dive deep into what’s capturing their imaginations—moving from gala-worthy movies to guilty-pleasure TV, buzzy debut novels to unmissable art installations—sharing candid opinions, behind-the-scenes tidbits, and plenty of banter along the way.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Fall Film Preview

• One Battle After Another

  • Rave reviews from all: timely, prescient, hopeful.
  • Leo DiCaprio, Teyana Taylor, and especially Chase Infinity called out for standout performances.
  • Chioma: “I thought Chase Infinity was a complete star. Teyana Taylor was amazing.” (02:37)
  • Taylor: “When you really get one in a Paul Thomas Anderson movie like this, it just carries you straight through.” (03:16)

• Ruthman (Channing Tatum Movie)

  • Described as “super fun, pure movie star energy” with notable performance by Kirsten Dunst.
  • Taylor: "She's amazing. There's something really special about her acting right now." (04:14)

• Hamnet

  • Early screening impressions: deeply moving, based on the fictionalized account of Shakespeare's life.
  • Jesse Buckley and Paul Mescal star; Buckley's performance described as “Titanic.”
  • Chloe: "I've never had [an experience] where the security guard handed me tissues on the way out." (06:08)
  • Taylor: “This one could be just like a career topper.” (06:16)

• The Testament of Ann Lee

  • Amanda Seyfried's transformational role; direction by Mona Fasfold.
  • Explores 18th-century Shaker history, dance, religious ecstasy—the use of music and choreography is praised.
  • Taylor: "I've never seen Amanda Seyfried like this before." (07:25)
  • Coming out from Searchlight on Christmas Day.

• Jennifer Lawrence in “Die My Love”

  • Intense, punk-rock portrayal of motherhood and mental illness; directed by Lynne Ramsey.
  • Taylor: “Jennifer Lawrence gives everything to this role.” (09:17)

• Sentimental Value

  • Director Joachim Trier (The Worst Person in the World), starring Renate Reinsva and Stellan Skarsgård (+ Elle Fanning).
  • Explores themes of family legacy, resentment, and love.
  • Taylor: “I can't recommend it enough. This movie's really incredible.” (10:33)
  • Out Nov 7.

• Paolo Sorrentino's Legrazia

  • Political drama with Tony Servillo as Italian president confronting euthanasia issues; inspired by a real Vogue Italia story.
  • Taylor: “You got to go see this one.” (11:42)

• Marty Supreme

  • Christmas release, Timothée Chalamet stars, directed by Josh Safdie (now directing separately from Benny).
  • Based loosely on ping pong champion Marty Reisman.
  • Taylor: “That's really exciting.” (14:44)

• Song Sung Blue

  • Neil Diamond jukebox movie, directed by Craig Brewer, starring Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson.
  • Editors note that even without prior Neil Diamond knowledge, the film is a must-see, emotional and romantic.
  • Taylor: “Would not stop talking… You gotta see it.” (15:43)

• Is This Thing On? (Bradley Cooper's new film)

  • Will Arnett stars as a man stumbling into stand-up comedy during midlife crisis; Laura Dern costars.
  • Anna Wintour has already seen and recommends it.
  • Taylor: "This is the midlife crisis that takes a form of stand-up comedy..." (16:19)

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TV to Watch

• Blue Lights (BBC/BritBox)

  • Season 3: Young police force in Belfast; city acts as a compelling character.
  • Taylor: “You really love it for the characters… you will really get caught up in it.” (18:14)

• The Diplomat (Netflix, Season 3)

  • Keri Russell lauded for nuanced portrayal; considered somewhat silly but enjoyable.
  • Commentary on realism by Chloe Sharma’s diplomat husband adds charm.
  • Chloe: “She has this steely core, but she's kind of... soft around the edges.” (19:30)

• Nobody Wants Us (Season 2)

  • Starring Adam Brody and Kristen Bell; explores Judaism and sisterly relationships.
  • Chloe: "Total guilty pleasure...The sister dynamic is more an element this season." (20:12)

• The Beast In Me (Netflix, Nov 13)

  • Claire Danes & Matthew Rhys as rival neighbors; described as pulpy, glam, but engaging.
  • Chloe: “They become not friends, not quite enemies, but maybe a bit of both. And it's good.” (20:56)

• All’s Fair (Ryan Murphy’s new show)

  • Set in an all-female law firm. Cast includes Kim Kardashian, Naomi Watts, Teyana Taylor, Sarah Paulson.
  • Big talking point in the Vogue office.
  • Taylor: "I will not be watching this show, but I am happy it exists." (21:30)

• Emily in Paris (Season 5)

  • Still a guilty pleasure, despite being “ridiculous”—fashion disasters are half the fun.
  • Cho: “I've even dropped off of Bridgerton, but I've stayed on this.” (22:26)

• House of Guinness

  • UK hit about the famous family; buzz is high, especially in the UK.

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Theater Highlights

• Weather Girl

  • One-woman show about a TV weather anchor coping with climate change disasters; originated at Edinburgh Festival.
  • Netflix adapting; produced by Fleabag and Baby Reindeer’s team.
  • Chloe: “Maintaining a kind of cheerful chipperness in the face of devastation and climate change.” (24:21)

• Everybody’s Talking About Jamie (School Production)

  • Taylor’s daughter stars; musical about a boy wanting to be a drag queen.
  • Taylor: “Is it 2025 in Brooklyn or not?” (26:09)

• Chess

  • 80s “rock musical” about Cold War rivalry, music by ABBA’s Benny and Bjorn.
  • Taylor: “This music is not cool, but I was just mainlining it.” (27:14)

• Porn Play (London)

  • Buzzy new drama starring Ambika Maude of “One Day” fame and Loewe ambassador.
  • Cho: “We've all kind of been holding our breath to see what she'll do next.” (28:16)

• Oedipus (Broadway, opening Nov 13)

  • Robert Icke directs Mark Strong and Leslie Manville in a contemporary retelling; Oedipus recast as a modern politician.
  • Chloe: “He sets [the play] in modern-day London… They just seem like they're going to be incredible in it.” (29:46)

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Top Reading Picks

• Heart the Lover by Lily King

  • Editors’ favorite book of the year; evocative novel about young love and its lifelong reverberations.
  • Chloe: “Everyone I've recommended this book to has just, like, completely fallen in love with it.” (30:55)

• What We Can Know by Ian McEwan

  • Dual-timeline novel: present day and 100 years in the future; climate dystopia, AI, politics, generational mystery.
  • Chloe: "I definitely have a hierarchy of which ones I like the best. And this one is up there." (31:22)
  • Half the fun is discussing which timeline resonates most with readers.

• Next of Kin by Gabrielle Hamilton

  • Memoir from the chef of Prune; less about food, more on family estrangement and reconciliation.
  • Chloe: “It's much more about her family and her relationship with her two very different and dramatic parents.” (33:11)
  • Her pandemic-era writing for NYT is also strongly praised.

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Music & What’s On Repeat

• Doja Cat’s new album

  • Produced by Jack Antonoff; described as “poppy but fun” and more lighthearted than previous work.
  • Cho: “There's more levity to the music, which I really love.” (34:04)

• Lily Allen’s upcoming album

  • Anticipated as a raw, emotional breakup record following her highly publicized split; also acting in theater.
  • Cho: “She pulls no punches. So it's going to be… a new chapter.” (35:23)

• Tame Impala’s Deadbeat

  • Described as more pop-oriented, energetic, and full of earworms.
  • Chloe: “There’s a song called Dracula which is like a total earworm in a great way.” (36:07)

• Remembering D’Angelo

  • Tribute to the late R&B icon.
  • Cho: “Only made three albums, but… genre defining music.” (36:24)

• Glaive’s latest album

  • Hyperpop favorite in Taylor’s household, plus a plug for up-and-coming punk-flavored band Spiritual Cramp.

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Art Exhibits Not to Miss

• Alexander Calder “Calder’s Circus” at the Whitney (NY)

  • Celebrates the 100th anniversary of the whimsical kinetic sculptures; links to new Calder Garden in Philadelphia.
  • Chloe: “It's really rare to see these very fragile creations… even just to see it is kind of special.” (38:30)

• Kerry James Marshall (London)

  • Recent retrospective described as spellbinding, with universal staff praise.
  • Cho: “The scale of his paintings, the color, everything about them is so… special.” (39:02)

• Nigerian Modernism at the Tate (London)

  • Major exhibit on 20th-century Nigerian art; personal resonance for Chioma and her mother.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

On Movie Magic

• “Movie stars, man. When you really get one in a Paul Thomas Anderson movie like this, it just carries you straight through.” —Taylor Antrim, 03:16

On TV Comfort

• “The outfits are why I watch it. Cause they're so disastrous that they're good.” —Cho Menardi on Emily in Paris, 22:16

On Literary Debate

• “I found the first half really a struggle and absolutely loved the second half. I gave it to a friend who then felt the inverse. So it’s not universal.” —Chloe Sharma on Ian McEwan’s What We Can Know, 32:00

On Generational Cultural Shifts

• “She's playing a boy who wants to become a drag queen. Oh, my God. I mean, is it 2025 in Brooklyn or not?” —Taylor Antrim, 26:09

On Artistic Awe

• “Everybody who has been to this show… has been completely, like, spellbound by it.” —Cho Menardi on Kerry James Marshall exhibition, 38:44

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:23] — One Battle After Another, movie breakdown
• [04:04] — Ruthman film & Kirsten Dunst
• [05:01] — Hamnet preview
• [07:13] — Testament of Ann Lee & Amanda Seyfried
• [09:54] — Sentimental Value & Renate Reinsva
• [10:46] — Paolo Sorrentino's Legrazia
• [14:41] — Marty Supreme & the Safdie brothers
• [15:43] — Song Sung Blue / Neil Diamond film
• [16:19] — Is This Thing On? (Bradley Cooper)
• [18:14] — Blue Lights (TV)
• [19:25] — The Diplomat (TV)
• [20:56] — The Beast in Me (TV)
• [21:30] — All’s Fair (Ryan Murphy TV)
• [22:13] — Emily in Paris
• [22:34] — House of Guinness
• [24:21] — Weather Girl (theater)
• [27:14] — Chess (musical)
• [28:14] — Porn Play with Ambika Maude
• [29:11] — Oedipus with Mark Strong & Leslie Manville
• [30:55] — Heart the Lover by Lily King
• [33:11] — Next of Kin by Gabrielle Hamilton
• [34:04] — Doja Cat’s album
• [36:07] — Tame Impala’s Deadbeat
• [38:30] — Calder’s Circus at the Whitney
• [38:44] — Kerry James Marshall at the Tate

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Final Note

This episode is the quintessential Vogue culture run-through: witty, eclectic, reliably opinionated, and packed with staff obsessions—offering an indispensable cheat sheet for any culture-lover’s fall calendar.

Transcript

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[Cho Menardi]

This is the run through. I'm Cho Menardi and today I'm joined in the studio by my colleagues and frequent guests of the pod. Taylor Antrim, deputy editor at Vogue, and Chloe Sharma, senior editor at Vogue. Hi, Taylor and Chloe.

[Taylor Antrim]

Hi, Choma.

[Chloe Sharma]

Hi, Choma.

[Taylor Antrim]

It's fun to be back. Nice to be talking about culture again.

[Cho Menardi]

Yeah, I always love that it's so nice to be actually in the studio, guys. Irl. I'm not zooming in from London, so this is quite exciting.

[Taylor Antrim]

This is really as it's meant to be.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah.

[Cho Menardi]

And I always look forward to the full culture preview because I feel like I get all of my movie television. I mean, definitely theater. You know, I know nothing about theater, so I get all of my recommendations.

[Taylor Antrim]

That's why Chloe's here.

[Cho Menardi]

Yeah, exactly.

[Chloe Sharma]

I'll give it a go.

[Taylor Antrim]

And you told us when you came in that you've already. You've been in New York for a week and you've already been to the movie stars.

[Cho Menardi]

Oh, my God, yes.

[Taylor Antrim]

You're killing it. Tell us what you saw.

[Cho Menardi]

So I saw one battle after another, which has been a big recommendation from so many friends and I'm very curious to know what you thought about it. Taylor.

[Taylor Antrim]

I saw that one. Chloe, have you seen it?

[Chloe Sharma]

I did. I saw it in the screening. Maybe a different one than you went to, but yeah. So I saw it a month or.

[Cho Menardi]

Two ago and I saw Ruthman, which I loved, which is a new Channing Tatum Movie, which was really fun.

[Taylor Antrim]

I've seen that one too. Yeah. So let's start with Battle. What did you guys think? Did it live up to expectations? I mean, the reviews are out. Everybody's over the moon about this movie.

[Chloe Sharma]

Did you love it?

[Cho Menardi]

I loved it. I loved it. I thought it was such. It felt so prescient, like, given the moment that we're in. And I don't know how they pulled it off because it was just a lot of delicate subject matter, but it just. And it ended in a really hopeful way.

[Taylor Antrim]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Cho Menardi]

I thought Chase Infinity was a complete star. Teyana Taylor was amazing.

[Chloe Sharma]

She just gave it her all. Yeah.

[Cho Menardi]

And you can't help but fall for Leo. Nado DiCaprio. I'm never one to be like, ugh. You know, it's been a while since I was, like, a huge Leo fan, but I just thought he was so good and so lovable and really complex and well rounded. It's funny and funny.

[Taylor Antrim]

I mean, the movie is funny. And the reason the movie is funny is because of Leo. You know, I was reminded, like, I have a little. Some mixed feelings about Leo. I sometimes feel like a movie is just, like, obliterated by the fact that Leo is in it. You know what I mean? Like that Wall street movie. I feel like all I can remember is Leo on LSD or whatever it was. But anyway, he was so funny and so entertaining. And I was like, movie stars, man. When you really get one in a Paul Thomas Anderson movie like this, it just carries you straight through.

[Chloe Sharma]

And he's playing his age in a kind of appealing way. Like, he's a little grizzled. You know, he's a little bit sort of like the character's kind of a little past their prime, like, trying to figure out middle age. And that's, like, so charming on him. He actually wears it really well. I thought what you said about it being timely, it's so interesting. Cause it's, like, sort of timely and sort of timeless. You're not quite sure, like, what period of history it's in. And it's speaking to the present, but it's also speaking to, like, a kind of alternate present. And I just thought it was so smart in addition to being so entertaining. It's just, like, big, like, swing for it. Movie making, I thought.

[Taylor Antrim]

Love that we're doing our preview with a movie that came out a month ago. But anyway, check that one off once. Your film was fun, right? Channing Tatum.

[Cho Menardi]

So fun.

[Taylor Antrim]

Talk about movie star.

[Cho Menardi]

Yeah.

[Taylor Antrim]

That guy is so appealing.

[Cho Menardi]

Right. So appealing. I mean, you just can't get enough of him in that film. And I thought Kirsten Dunst was so great.

[Taylor Antrim]

She's amazing. This stage of her career, whatever she's doing now. Like, I've watched Kirsten Dunst movies, like, her entire career. Obviously, she's. She's such a star, but there's something really special about her acting right now, I think, you know?

[Cho Menardi]

Yeah.

[Taylor Antrim]

So anyway, that movie's really fun too, but also out. And we're supposed to talk about what we're looking forward to.

[Cho Menardi]

What are you looking forward to?

[Taylor Antrim]

Okay, so I do love movies, and I love this time of year for movies. And Chloe and I are super fortunate that we get to see some things early. And maybe we should start with Hamnet, because I feel like you and I saw Hamnet really early and we didn't know what it was before all the festivals when people were like, oh, my God, this movie is like the best movie that's ever been made or whatever. And you and I just saw it in a midtown screening room and sort of staggered out and looked at each other like, wow. So tell us. Tell us what you thought.

[Chloe Sharma]

Well, Hamnet is based. It's sort of like a lesser well known chapter of Shakespeare's life, and it's based on a novel. So it's a fictionalized interpretation of that chapter of his life following the. Correct me if I get any of this wrong. Taylor death of his son. And that's not giving anything away. And his son's name was Hamnet. And so there's kind of interpretation, and I don't know the facts of this, but in the novel, certainly that that led to Hamlet. And, you know, the film is essentially tracing out him becoming a father and then going through this excruciating tragedy and then kind of the writing of the play. And it was a novel, as I said, I haven't read the novel, but I had followed its trajectory to become a play that was extremely well reviewed in England, I don't think ever came to America, and then adapted by Chloe Zhao, the director who we adore and we featured several times into this play. And I again, like returning to that image of us staggering out of the theater. I had an experience I've never had before, which is when the security guard handed me some tissues on my way out because he could see I was, like, destroyed by this film, you know, for obvious reasons I've already alluded to. But it's so beautifully done.

[Taylor Antrim]

We should say, of course, the two stars are Jesse Buckley And Paul Mescal. And Paul Mescal plays William Shakespeare. But it is truly Jesse Buckley's movie. I mean, Paul Mescal, it's an amazing performance and he really gets to actually, you know, speak some of the Shakespeare language from Hamlet in the film. But Jessie Buckley is just a Titanic performance and she's been like, kicking around, turning in these incredible performances. But this one could be just like a career topper, I feel like.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah, I think. I mean, it's a little silly to be like awards season as soon as you see something. But it just felt like she will be a major contender during awards season for.

[Taylor Antrim]

I think she's gonna be hard to beat. I think she's gonna. Hard to beat.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Taylor Antrim]

So the other movie, Choma that Chloe and I got to see, so we saw Hamnet early and we were like, ooh, you know, fancy us. We get to see this mo. I got to see. I went to Toronto and I got to see the Testament of Ann Lee, which is directed by Mona Fasfold, who is the partner of Brady Courbet, who we know from the Brutalist. And I had sort of heard about this movie, just this kind of like, crazy. You gotta see it, like art film, but also like, what a spectacle. And it stars Amanda Seyfried. And the thing I have to say is, like, I love this movie. I thought it was so beautiful to look at and really a must see. But I have never seen Amanda Seyfried like this before.

[Chloe Sharma]

Wow.

[Taylor Antrim]

Yeah. I feel like she's leveled up into some other category.

[Cho Menardi]

I'm so happy for her.

[Taylor Antrim]

Yeah, yeah.

[Cho Menardi]

It rarely happens. I feel like maybe Demi Moore had that moment last year.

[Taylor Antrim]

Yeah, right, right.

[Chloe Sharma]

I mean, if you think of her as carrying like the long trail of Mamma Mia, like, she shakes it off like it's like, no more Mamma Misa, you know. But we should say she plays Ann Lee, who is the founder of the Shakers, this kind of branch of the Quakers. But that became like a very American born religion. And it tells a story of her moving from Manchester in the UK to upstate New York to basically found this super interesting religion, which I am kind of obsessed with. I visited many Shaker villages in America, actually.

[Taylor Antrim]

Yeah, totally.

[Chloe Sharma]

And really, like, you know, even if you're like, ooh, not so into 18th century religious history, it's also about, like, what it was like to be a woman and that point and like, why you would, you know, be inspired to start a new religion essentially and kind of what she goes through in that process.

[Taylor Antrim]

And it just is visually, like the use of music and dance in this movie. It's so unique. Like, it's.

[Cho Menardi]

You said dance?

[Taylor Antrim]

Yes.

[Chloe Sharma]

Dance.

[Cho Menardi]

Yes.

[Taylor Antrim]

Because so much.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah.

[Taylor Antrim]

The religious ecstasy that the Shakers were driven to caused them to move in these kinds of dance, like, ways. And this is enacted over and over again in the movie. And it's, like, so mesmerizing to watch. So I don't know. It's a testament of Anlee. I really recommend it. It played at the festivals and then was snapped up, I think, by Searchlight and is coming out on Christmas Day. So I think it's gonna be a big mov. I think Amanda Seyfried is gonna be in the conversation too. Okay. I have seen a couple things that I wanna mention really quickly. I think I'm really focused on the best actress race because I think there's these incredible performances. And the one that I wanna call out is Jennifer Lawrence, who's in this Lynne Ramsey movie called Die My Love. And I'm not suggesting that this is gonna be the biggest movie ever because it's a tough watch. It's like a mother, sort of a young mother played by Jennifer Lawrence, sort of losing her mind. And she's married to Robert Pattinson, and they're in this sort of isolated house and movie about, you know, mental illness and motherhood, of which we've had many in the last year. We were in the office. We were kind of nailing a list. Yeah. But I just thought this movie was so punk rock and so, like, hardcore and in your face. And Jennifer Lawrence gives everything to this role, and I think you've got to see it. And I think she will be in the conversation for that. And then another movie that swept me off my feet, and this one I do recommend unreservedly is. Do you guys remember a movie called the Worst Person in the World?

[Cho Menardi]

Oh, one of my favorite movies ever. I'm so excited for this new movie.

[Taylor Antrim]

So the director of the Worst Person in the World is Joachim Trier. And this is his new film with the star of that previous film, Renata Rheinzva, who is this amazing actress. And she is in this film called Sentimental Value, about sisters. And they have this sort of, like, filmmaker father who is played by the incredible Stellan Starsgard. And I just. It's so moving. And it's such a beautiful movie about family legacy and sort of resentments between a parent and a daughter, but also love and attachment. And I just. Elle Fanning is in it. I can't recommend it. Enough. This movie's really incredible. It comes out November 7th, so put those two on your list.

[Cho Menardi]

I can't wait to see that.

[Taylor Antrim]

Now, one movie you and I have seen, Shoma, you were in Venice and you were among the first to see Paolo Sorrentino's legrazia, right?

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah.

[Taylor Antrim]

And then I saw it like last week or something. So.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Cho Menardi]

What did you think? I still. I'm thinking about that film months later, I guess. I loved the Great Beauty.

[Taylor Antrim]

Yeah, that's the one that kind of made. Put Sorrentino on the map.

[Cho Menardi]

Exactly. And this was quite different.

[Taylor Antrim]

Yeah. It's about an Italian president sort of at the end of his term, and he's facing this, like, very difficult decision about whether to legalize euthanasia assisted death. And in a Catholic country like Italy, this is like a really difficult decision for him to make. And of course, it's played by. The actor who plays the president is Tony Servillo, who is a longtime, you know, kind of muse and collaborator with pal of Sorrentino. And I think what will stick with me is that performance, because I could. I could watch him, you know, all day long. He was really amazing. But I thought it was beautiful film and had some kind of incredible sequences. And if you're into Sorrentino, you got to go see this one.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah.

[Taylor Antrim]

But also it has like a. Like a weirdly like, strong Vogue Italia cameo. So tell us about that show.

[Cho Menardi]

Well, that's. I think actually that's where the art imitating life comes in. Because there was a story that our colleagues at Italian Vogue did on a politician that got a lot of headlines in Italy. They profiled a young left wing politician and it got quite a lot of. There was quite a lot of online chatter about it. So I think Sorrentino was actually very inspired by that. To include Vogue Italian. It was a real surprise to me because I'd spoken to Francesca, who's the head of editorial content at Vogue Italian.

[Chloe Sharma]

She's like.

[Cho Menardi]

He said something about it maybe being in the film, but it's quite present. There is a Vogue editor who basically gets a scoop on this story about how this Italian president wants to convey his legacy. That's right. And so at the end of the film, they're having this conversation. You never see her, which I think is quite nice. She sounds very seasoned. She doesn't sound like an ingenue. She definitely sounds like a. But like, she's been in the game. She's got some skin in the game. So it was quite cool.

[Taylor Antrim]

I appreciated that we Weren't played for laughs. You know, it was like a real, you know, important sort of plot moment in the story that Vogue Italia came in and provided this outlet for him to really express himself. So I don't know, I thought that was kind of cool.

[Cho Menardi]

Same, same. I did, too. I did, too.

[Taylor Antrim]

So that one's coming out December 5th in the US and in an art house cinema near you, I'm sure. But it's a good one to see. And then there's more, like, have you.

[Cho Menardi]

Seen Marty Supreme I'm seeing tomorrow.

[Taylor Antrim]

Oh, my God. Lucky.

[Cho Menardi]

So exciting.

[Taylor Antrim]

I know. Well, I know someone who's seen it. I mean, this is such a silly thing, but they did, like, some secret screening at New York Film Festival. So there are a few people that have seen it. I have not, but the buzz on.

[Cho Menardi]

The screen is really good.

[Chloe Sharma]

I think you're gonna see it before. I want a special few.

[Taylor Antrim]

Yeah. Anyway, Timothee Chalamet, Gwyneth Paltrow, Like Marty supreme, that's going to come out on Christmas Day, too.

[Cho Menardi]

So.

[Taylor Antrim]

Directed by Josh Safdie.

[Cho Menardi]

So can you explain the brothers split? Because I didn't realize that they. Now are they. Is it amicable? Do you know about this?

[Taylor Antrim]

I don't know. I just don't know.

[Cho Menardi]

Why are they suddenly doing movies by themselves?

[Taylor Antrim]

Separate, separately. So Benny and Josh Safdie directed Uncut Gems, which is, I think, the last movie, the last Safdie brothers movie that we saw. And then this season there have been two. Right. Benny Safdie directed the Smashing Machine, which I have not seen it. I have not seen it, but that came out, like, a couple weeks ago to good reviews. And Dwayne Johnson in, like, a role that everybody's giving him a lot of praise for. And then Josh Safdie, his brother has this film that he sort of, to some degree, collaborated with Timothee Chalamet on. Timothee Chalamet is a producer on it. And the star that's loosely based on the life of Marty Reisman, who's a, you know, 1950s New York character who became, like, a ping pong champion.

[Cho Menardi]

I didn't realize it was based on a.

[Taylor Antrim]

Loosely based.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah, loosely based.

[Taylor Antrim]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, that's really exciting. And before we move on from movies, I just gotta say, guys, there is yet another Christmas movie you gotta see. And if anybody likes the music of Neil diamond, even if you don't, I implore you to not dismiss this movie. It's called Song Sung Blue. It's directed by Craig Brewer, who is the guy who wrote and directed Hustle and Flow, which is such a great. Such a great movie. And it stars Kate Hudson and Hugh Jackman. And Hugh Jackman is a Neil diamond impersonator. It's a true story, and it's, in some ways, a jukebox movie. Guys, like, there's music in the movie, but it's so well performed. It's a heartrending story that we had a Vogue screening of it. I was, like, dazzled. Would not stop talking to anybody. I saw about songs on Blue. You gotta see it. But there were two younger colleagues in this screening who came because, you know, this was an Anna screening. And a lot of us just, like, go, no matter what. Right? You know, Naomi was one of them. And I was catching up with her. It was Naomi and Sam's husband. I was catching up with them outside the screening afterwards. Neither of them had ever heard of Neil diamond or any. Had not heard of Neil Diamond. Song. Sorry. They probably heard of Neil Diamond. They had not heard a Neil diamond song coming through going into that movie. And outside, they were like, that was great. Wow, that was really great. Yeah, it's romantic, it's sad. It's, like, touching. It's like, you gotta see it. And Hugh Jackman can do anything. That guy's amazing. So song sung blue, December 25. Got to choose between that Marty supreme and the testament of an Lee.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah. Diversity in your options.

[Taylor Antrim]

Another movie that's coming out that people are buzzing about and our boss Anna's buzzing about, which has put a lot of pressure on us to actually see it because she saw it before any of us, which is a little.

[Cho Menardi]

She always does.

[Taylor Antrim]

Well, I pride myself on getting to movies before her, so I can at least be prepared, but I skipped this one at New York Film Festival. Anyway, what we're talking about is the Bradley Cooperation, the movie that he directed. It's called Is this Thing On? And it stars Will Arnett and Laura Dern, who's, like, amazing, obviously. And so he started calling before the film festival. I was like, this is the midlife crisis that takes a form of standup comedy movie that's coming out. So Will Arnett is having sort of, like, a crisis in his marriage and his life, and he stumbles into a standup comedy nightclub in New York and tries his hand at it. And Anna says, it's great. Great.

[Chloe Sharma]

We'll take our word for it.

[Taylor Antrim]

I love it.

[Cho Menardi]

I love the premise of it. Yeah. Sounds really fun.

[Taylor Antrim]

Yeah.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah.

[Taylor Antrim]

Apparently it's really fun. And I think Bradley Cooper's previous two movies, as we know, Stars Born and Maestro. And I've got a lot of time for both those movies.

[Chloe Sharma]

Oh, me too.

[Taylor Antrim]

I will definitely see this one.

[Cho Menardi]

We'll be right back after the break. Hi, it's Cho Menardi. If you're not on the Vogue app yet, what the hell are you doing? You can follow along with me and other editors as we talk about everything happening in fashion. Think you're already a fashion expert? Well, find out how your Runway IQ stacks up against the Vogue community with an all new Runway genius leaderboard. So download the Vogue app today and you'll never miss a moment.

[Taylor Antrim]

From movies to tv.

[Cho Menardi]

Yeah. So tv, I'm totally behind on you guys. I'm gonna have to let you guys take the lead.

[Taylor Antrim]

Well, and you in London, you guys, you have a different slate of tv. Like, we all see the same things but sometimes on different schedules. So it's nice to hear, like what everyone is watching in London versus what everyone is watching here.

[Cho Menardi]

Right?

[Taylor Antrim]

You know?

[Cho Menardi]

Right. I mean, I do think Blue Light Season 3, is that what we.

[Taylor Antrim]

Is that one that screamed in. It's funny because, like Chloe Maul and I really excited about Blue Lights, which is from the BBC and it comes over here in America on a service called Britbox, which is. Which is actually a great streaming service if you like British tv. But it's about, it's the third season comes out, it just came out in the UK and it comes out here in the US in November. And I got some screeners of it and I'm really just started it over the weekend. I love this show. It's basically about a group of young police in Belfast. And the city of Belfast, Northern Ireland, is as much a character as these cops, you know, but it's, it's a kind of show that's like a little bit procedural. But you really love it for the characters and they all, you know, these incipient romances between some of them. They were trainee policemen in the first season. Now they're a little bit more veteran. But it's great. I really recommend it. So start with season one if you haven't watched Blue Lights before, but you will really get caught up in it and you'll be ready for season three.

[Chloe Sharma]

So I'm kind of in like the sticking with shows phase of my TV consumption. So I'm sort of like watching these shows that I started years ago thinking, oh, maybe one season will be enough. And now I'm still with it. So. So still watching the Diplomat. I've finished Season three, which is the.

[Taylor Antrim]

Diplomat, Season three, it just came out on Netflix.

[Chloe Sharma]

Keri Russell, she plays the American ambassador to the uk And Keri Russell is so good.

[Taylor Antrim]

She's so good.

[Chloe Sharma]

I mean, she just, like, from Felicity to the Americans. Like, she has this steely core, but she's kind of, like, soft around the edges, and she's just so good on it. And, like, the plot is silly, but my husband, who actually was a diplomat, so it's interesting to watch, kind of watches over my shoulder sometimes, and he's like, well, this is ridiculous, but he'll still watch it.

[Taylor Antrim]

But he stays.

[Chloe Sharma]

And he thinks, like, it's not that ridiculous, you know, so take it for what it's worth. And then nobody wants us. Season two, starring Adam Brody and Kristen Bell. And, you know, it's a little. I mean, again, a little silly. Like a woman who seems to have, like, never been exposed to Judaism all of a sudden is dating a rabbi and is like, what's this all about? But it has its charms, and it's so fun.

[Cho Menardi]

It's just like guilty pleasure tv.

[Chloe Sharma]

It is total guilty pleasure. And, like, the sister dynamic is kind of more an element this season, which is also really fun. So I can give that a recommendation as well.

[Cho Menardi]

Ooh, I'm excited for that. I know what I'm gonna be watching on the plane home now.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yes. And then I also dipped into this show I believe is also Netflix called the Beast in Me, which, you know, wasn't initially appealing necessarily, but it stars Claire Danes and Matthew Rhys, two actors who I also think are kind of phenomenal. And it's a little pulpy. It's kind of like Claire Danes plays a writer living this sort of, like, glamorous but slightly withdrawn life in kind of New York suburbs. And then Matthew Rhys moves next door to her, and he's a real estate gajillionaire who's a very brash personality. And they become not friends, not quite enemies, but maybe a bit of both. And it's good.

[Taylor Antrim]

And that comes out soon, right? It comes out, like, in November.

[Chloe Sharma]

It comes out November 13th. Yeah.

[Taylor Antrim]

Awesome. You're watching ahead.

[Chloe Sharma]

I am watching ahead a little bit. Yeah. But I also feel like I'm just. It's the tail end of shows.

[Taylor Antrim]

I started Guilty Pleasure. Can we just say what everyone's buzzing about in the Office too? Which is All's Fair, which is the. Oh, yeah.

[Cho Menardi]

They're doing the premiere this week in London.

[Taylor Antrim]

It's the Ryan Murphy show, the kind of, like, all female law firm starring. Get this Kim Kardashian, Naomi Watts, Teyana Taylor, Sarah Paulson. It's just an incredible cast.

[Cho Menardi]

Insane.

[Taylor Antrim]

So I. I mean, full disclosure, I will not be watching this show, but I am happy it exists.

[Chloe Sharma]

Well, I think only. I think the Office has only seen the trailer, but the amount of conversation it has prompted.

[Taylor Antrim]

Oh, yeah, we've had full content meetings about, like, coverage of All's Fair.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah.

[Taylor Antrim]

So, anyway, a lot of guilty pleasure stuff. There's Emily in Paris coming back. Are you an Emily and Paris viewer?

[Cho Menardi]

That's another guilty pleasure of mine. I think I've watched every single season.

[Taylor Antrim]

How many have there been?

[Cho Menardi]

Five. We're like. We're deep in it.

[Taylor Antrim]

We're deep in it.

[Cho Menardi]

We're still hanging on. I mean, because last time it was set in Rome and Paris, which I thought was quite fun. And, you know, I think it's. It's obviously ridiculous, but it's just this TV that you have on in the background or bite size. I like things short episodes.

[Taylor Antrim]

Yeah.

[Chloe Sharma]

Kitchell. Mo. But what about the outfits?

[Cho Menardi]

The outfits are why I watch it. Cause they're so disastrous that they're good.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah.

[Taylor Antrim]

Really stick with it. Television. If you're up to season five of them, like, you gotta respect it.

[Cho Menardi]

I can't believe it.

[Taylor Antrim]

You gotta respect it.

[Cho Menardi]

I believe it. Yeah. I've even dropped off of Bridgerton, but I've stayed on this.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah.

[Taylor Antrim]

I hear, though, that House of Guinness is sort of big.

[Cho Menardi]

Yes. House of Guinness is huge in the uk, right? Yeah, it's huge in the uk. We had actually a Guinness write a story about what it's like to be a Guinness, and it completely exploded.

[Taylor Antrim]

It's Steven Knight who did Peaky Blinders, which is a show I watched all the way to the end and really loved. And I'm remiss that I haven't gotten to House of Guinness yet, but it's worth checking out.

[Cho Menardi]

It's worth checking out. I heard it's really good. I haven't gotten into it yet, guys. I'm very behind, so I'm not the right person to talk to about this. But I will say that everybody in the Office is obsessed with it. And we keep getting so much love online.

[Taylor Antrim]

It's become a thing. I mean, I'm clearly a fan of the wrong Irish show. That being Blue Lights. I think the cool Irish show right now is House of Guinness. Right. Okay.

[Chloe Sharma]

We'll be back after the break.

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[Taylor Antrim]

Should we go into the theater?

[Chloe Sharma]

Sure. We can do some quick highlights.

[Taylor Antrim]

Yeah, you need to. You're out and about at the theater.

[Chloe Sharma]

I try.

[Taylor Antrim]

More than me?

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah.

[Taylor Antrim]

More than Choma?

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yeah.

[Taylor Antrim]

More than me.

[Cho Menardi]

I've got. What? I'm going to the theater next month.

[Chloe Sharma]

Oh, I want to hear what you're gonna see.

[Cho Menardi]

Yeah.

[Chloe Sharma]

Well, I saw a play called Weather Girl a few weeks ago and I have followed this place since the Edinburgh Festival. So I think two years ago. I'm always interested in things that emerge from Edinburgh, which is the festival that takes place in late August in the Scottish city, of course, because they sometimes move to London and then they sometimes move to New York and then they move to Netflix. Anyway, this one has done that trajectory. It's moved to London, now New York, and it's being developed by Netflix. But the reason I was really interested was that that's where Fleabag started. It's where baby reindeer started. And it's the same producer for this show as those two theater productions and then obvious TV things, TV projects. And it's a one woman show and it was on. It is on at St. Anne's Warehouse. And it's about like a very kind of artificially perky TV weather girl who is reporting in kind of the la, greater LA area while like wildfires are raging around her and there's a drought and it's kind of that like maintaining a kind of cheerful chipperness in the face of devastation and climate change. And it's really powerful. And I don't know how they're gonna adapt it for tv, but I will also continue watching it. And it's like a tight 90 minute play, which I love.

[Cho Menardi]

Some comedy around climate change. I'm interested to see how that works.

[Chloe Sharma]

No, it's. It pulls it off in like a tricky way. I mean, you don't come out feeling like that was a hilarious night at the theater, but you are kind of. It's a fun, It's a good evening, not like a totally depressing one.

[Taylor Antrim]

Now it takes a lot to get me out to see musical theater. I mean, a lot. Basically my daughter has to star in it and Vivian does have the lead in the musical at her School. She does? Yeah.

[Chloe Sharma]

She scored the lead. That's crazy.

[Taylor Antrim]

I know. I'm so worried she's not gonna know her lines. I was running them with her this.

[Chloe Sharma]

Weekend, and I was like, are you hearing that?

[Taylor Antrim]

It's incredible.

[Cho Menardi]

Come on. Her brain is not like our brains.

[Taylor Antrim]

It's. Everybody's talking about Jane much easier. So she's playing a boy who wants to become a drag queen. Oh, my God. I mean, is it 2025 in Brooklyn or not?

[Chloe Sharma]

Yes.

[Taylor Antrim]

That's what I.

[Chloe Sharma]

Time capsule.

[Taylor Antrim]

Okay. So I will definitely be there for my daughter's debut as the lead of Everybody's Talking About Jamie. But I am also toying with the idea of going to see Chess. Now. Do you guys know what chess is?

[Chloe Sharma]

No. You're gonna have to tell us.

[Taylor Antrim]

Okay, so this is gonna date me, but when I was growing up, my incredibly, you know, cultured and worldly mother, I was growing up in Richmond, Virginia, made sure that she took us up to New York occasionally to see, because that was the way to broaden our horizons. And I think it was in New York. It might have been in London, where we also went. But I saw Chess, which is this, like, 80s kind of rock musical about a chess duel between a Russian player and an American player. And there's this kind of like, defection plot that had sort of a spy thrill to it. Anyway, I was obsessed. I had the cassettes. I played it constantly. This music is not cool, but I was like, I was just mainlining music.

[Cho Menardi]

Wait, what is the music?

[Chloe Sharma]

It's back.

[Taylor Antrim]

It's starring Lea Michele. And it's like, I, I, I don't know. I don't know if I can bring myself to go see this, but this is the one that I would want to see again. I love that music.

[Chloe Sharma]

The music is from abba, right?

[Taylor Antrim]

Yes. It's music and lyrics. Benny Anderson and Bjorn. I didn't know this when I was a kid. I just was like. I was like, this movie, this music is cool. So, I mean, Apple.

[Cho Menardi]

Apple. Like, honestly, they got.

[Chloe Sharma]

Those are catchy songs.

[Cho Menardi]

Yeah, exactly. Very catchy songs.

[Taylor Antrim]

Yeah. So it. I, I do think it's catchy. I think it's fun that it's back. The, the, the posters in the subway are, like, extremely uncool looking to me, but I am toying with going to see it. I think it's in previews now, and it's gonna open soon, so. Cold war era chess, rock musical. Get with it, guys.

[Cho Menardi]

Well, the one play that I am going to see in the next few Weeks is called Porn Play. It's this new, buzzy new play that's all about women and porn. This is a young playwright. But what got me excited about it is that Ambika Maude is going to be starring in it.

[Chloe Sharma]

Oh, love her.

[Cho Menardi]

And yeah, she's.

[Taylor Antrim]

Who's she?

[Cho Menardi]

Remember from one day. Remember? So appealing. She's been, you know, she got picked up by Loewe and. And she came to the Met, so I think. And that TV show was so popular and she was amazing in it. And we've all kind of been holding our breath to see what she'll do next. So this is kind of like her tiptoeing into the spotlight again, which we're really excited about. And fun fact, she used to work at Conde Nap.

[Taylor Antrim]

What'd she do?

[Cho Menardi]

I think she was in the accounts department somewhere. Very random.

[Taylor Antrim]

So glamorous. I know, I know.

[Cho Menardi]

I cornered her at the Met and asked her about what it was like and she was like, yeah, I remember. What she didn't say too much. She didn't say anything negative guys. But she was just like. It was a different. Yeah, it was a different time for her. So.

[Taylor Antrim]

And that's opening in London. So you're seeing it when you're going back to London.

[Cho Menardi]

I'm gonna see when I go back to London, which I'm very excited about.

[Taylor Antrim]

And we have a story about Oedipus, which is this like, you know, star studded production coming to Broadway from London.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah. So millennia old play brought into the modern day from Lond, as you say. The director is Robert Eich, who's kind of known for taking these kind of somewhat old fashioned seeming theatrical texts. And as I think our writer in the story wrote like shaking the dust off them. And so this one he sets in modern day London and Oedipus is a politician who is running for a position, I'm not actually sure it's specified. And you know, discovering that his wife is also his mother. To give away spoilers. This is a spoiler classic. But I'm really looking forward to that. I mean, it's starting to mark strong. And Leslie Manville too.

[Taylor Antrim]

I mean, they're incredible.

[Cho Menardi]

I love Leslie Manville especially love her.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah. And I think they just seem like they're gonna be incredible in it.

[Taylor Antrim]

So that's previews soon and then it opens November 13th on Broadway.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yes, that's right.

[Cho Menardi]

Okay. Well, Chloe, I'm very excited to get my reading list from you because you are our resident book expert and my reading list is weak Right now.

[Chloe Sharma]

Okay. It needs your information. Shoma. I have the one. I think this is my favorite book of the year, and it's coming out. Sorry, it just came out at the end of September. It's called Heart the Lover by Lily King. If you go deep on the origin story of this book, you can find an essay that we published in 2020.

[Taylor Antrim]

Love.

[Chloe Sharma]

It was a fiction, a nonfiction essay written by Lily King that kind of, you know, very few people will see this connection, but gets spun out in this novel into a much more expansive story. So, you know, you read it here first. But anyway, it's the story of, like, a young woman and her college love affairs, and then those. How they have the kind of, like, a long impact on her life, and then what happens later on when she kind of reunites with some of these figures from her college life. Everyone I've recommended this book to has just, like, completely fallen in love with it. It is really hard not to enjoy.

[Taylor Antrim]

Awesome.

[Chloe Sharma]

It is great. Yeah. So highly recommend that. Lily King just gets better and better in my estimation. Another favorite I think is gonna be on my favorite of the year is Ian McKeown's latest, which is called what We Can Know.

[Taylor Antrim]

I read this one, too. Yeah, we talked about it. I was really into it.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah. I'm like. I think I will eventually, in my lifetime, be a McEwen completist. I think between Taylor and I, we've probably read almost all of them.

[Taylor Antrim]

We've got it locked down between the two of us.

[Chloe Sharma]

And I definitely have a hierarchy of which ones I like the best. And this one is up there. Not number one, but definitely up there. It's two part story. Part of it is kind of told in our sort of approximate present. Part of it is told about a hundred years forward. The 100 years forward is like. Like dystopian waters have risen.

[Taylor Antrim]

Yeah.

[Cho Menardi]

Yeah.

[Chloe Sharma]

So, you know, the people are getting around on boats more than they're getting around in cars because lots of places are waterlogged at that point. And the character in the future is kind of investigating a mystery that has transpired in the past. Two very different parts of the book, and I think you kind of respond to one or the other. I found the first half really a struggle and absolutely loved the second half. I gave it to a friend who then felt the inverse. So it's not universal.

[Taylor Antrim]

It's a total conversation piece. And he's such a wonderful writer. And obviously there's AI in this novel. There's a lot of threads and political turmoil that he touches on a lot of things. I think it's a great book.

[Chloe Sharma]

He's done a lot. And what I loved about it was it doesn't feel obvious. I mean, sometimes you read these books about the future, and it's like, AI has taken over everything. There's nothing actually kind of overly dramatic or, like, annoying. It's just like a very intelligent projection to, like, where AI might take us or not, you know, which I thought was really fascinating. And then the last book I wanted to flag for you or for everyone is called Next of Kin by Gabrielle Hamilton, who is the chef and owner of the beloved now closed restaurant in New York called the Prune. She wrote a really famous memoir called Blood, Bones and Butter, which I actually have not read. So I came to this one kind of fresh.

[Taylor Antrim]

Blood, Bones and Butter is great.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah, it's.

[Cho Menardi]

I remember reading a piece that she did during the pandemic that just totally, like, destroyed me. It was so good.

[Taylor Antrim]

Yeah, that was a great piece that was in the New York Times that was about why she was closing career.

[Chloe Sharma]

I read that as well. And I, Because I hadn't read this memoir, I was like, wow, this woman can write. And sure enough, like, in this memoir, she really can write. And it's about food a little, but it's much more about her family and her relationship with her two very different and dramatic parents and alienation from them and coming back together with them and difficult relationship she had with her brother. It's just like, really, really well done and beautiful. So highly recommend those.

[Taylor Antrim]

She also. I commissioned an essay from her for Vogue, like, gosh, over a decade ago that just wowed everybody when it came in. It was a love story and, like, just so unsparing in the way that it was written. And so, yeah, she's amazing.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah.

[Taylor Antrim]

Books. We've covered books. What's left?

[Cho Menardi]

Music.

[Taylor Antrim]

Chelma, what are you listening to?

[Cho Menardi]

Well, I'm listening to Doja Cat's new album.

[Taylor Antrim]

Yes, I've heard Doja Cat's album as.

[Cho Menardi]

Well, which I really. Which I really love. And it's produced by Jack Antonoff. So it has this very kind of poppy but fun vibe that feels different for her. There's more levity to the music, which I really love. But I'm really excited about Lily Allen's new album. There's been a lot of buzz around it. We did a profile, really? Olivia Marks My Colle, an amazing profile on Lily. And obviously she's going through quite a difficult period of her life, a difficult breakup with her husband, which is highly publicized in the uk, so there was a lot of attention on it. And this is ostensibly a big breakup album where she. She's known for pouring out her heart in her music. And this one, I think she. She pulls no punches. So it's going to be. I think I can't wait for it to come out because I really want to listen to it. So that's what I think this, this fall is going to be very much. I know she's. She's wonderful. She's sort of like a national treasure. And it's. She's actually had a lot of success acting. I don't know if you. She. She was in a play recently that got rave reviews, and so she's been doing theater, which I think is quite unexpected for her because I think people, you know, I think as a. As a pop girly from the early aughts, she had much more of this sort of, I don't know, bubblegum appeal, but she's got a lot more to her. So I'm excited for her. I think this is a new chapter in her music, her life, so it's gonna be exciting to see where it all goes.

[Chloe Sharma]

Cool.

[Taylor Antrim]

Lillian, what are you listening to?

[Cho Menardi]

Chloe?

[Chloe Sharma]

I spent the weekend listening to Tame Impala's new album called Deadbeat.

[Cho Menardi]

I love Tame Impala.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah, I kind of had.

[Cho Menardi]

Is it good? I haven't listened to that album.

[Chloe Sharma]

It's so good. Yeah, it's so good. I kind of had clocked them maybe a, you know, decade ago and have followed them sort of sporadically. But I put this one on and it is an album you can listen to from beginning to and be delighted the entire time. I don't know kind of the exact trajectory of Tame Impala's music, but this one, I think is considered more pop than electronic, sort of electrodisco kind of thing.

[Cho Menardi]

Yeah.

[Chloe Sharma]

But it definitely straddles the line and it's just really fun, but kind of slightly edgy at the same time. There's a song called Dracula which is like a total earworm in a great way. And at the end of the weekend, my kids were singing it, not really even knowing what they were saying. So I really recommend that one.

[Cho Menardi]

And of course have to say I've been basically pausing everything and listening to d' Angelo since he passed last week and just remembering how much impact he had within three albums. Like, he only made three albums, but the kind of cultural relevance and cut through and kind of genre defining music that he made was so. Was so amazing and so sad that he died at the age of 51. That made a big. So I'm excited to see younger R and B artists inspired by him and how. Yeah. Cause I always feel like when greats die like this, there's always this moment where people sort of pay respects to the music. So let's see. I think it'd be interesting.

[Taylor Antrim]

There's a lot of hyper pop in my household. And we love the artist Glaive, who had his latest album come out called Y', all, like, two, three weeks ago. So there's a lot of Glaive being played in my house. And then I'm excited about this band called Spiritual Cramp, which is kind of a mix of sort of, like, sounds a little bit like Interpol from the Aughts, but also mixed with maybe a little punkier, more sort of even edging into hardcore vibes. So check out Spiritual Cramp if you're into that kind of thing. So, yeah, that's some stuff to listen to.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah.

[Taylor Antrim]

What do we leave out?

[Cho Menardi]

Oh, yeah, we should do some art. Yes.

[Chloe Sharma]

Okay. I'm gonna quickly recommend seeing Caulder's Circus at the Whitney's Alexander Calder. Some art this week opened on last Friday, the 17th of October. And this is like. I feel like it's Calder season. There was the opening of the Calder Garden last month in Philadelphia. This amazing new institution, very definitively, they don't want it called a museum. It's more experiential than that. But incredible building. I wrote about it for the magazine. It's a gorgeous architectural installation and is filled with. It will be filled with. And is filled with a rotation of Calder's art. So, you know, if you feel like making a field trip from New York, if you're based in New York, down to Philly, I really highly recommend that. And then I think somewhat in conjunction with it, the Whitney has brought Calder's Circus on the 100th anniversary of its creation. So you can go see it. And it's, like, really rare to see these very fragile creations. And I don't know how much they're moving them or what the animations are exactly, but even just to see it is kind of special.

[Cho Menardi]

Ooh, I'm excited to see that one big show in London that has everybody talking. Is the Kerry James Marshall.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah, totally.

[Cho Menardi]

I mean, there was that big retrospective that happened here right before the pandemic, and I remember just walking through it and feeling completely awestruck. And everybody who has been to this show, I haven't had a chance to see it. Including Anna, who got me the catalog has been completely, like, spellbound by it, so I'm very excited to see it. The scale of his paintings, the color, everything about them is so. Yeah. Special. And then there's a Nigerian modernism exhibit at the Tate that I'm hoping to take my mom to.

[Taylor Antrim]

Cause.

[Cho Menardi]

Yeah, she never. She doesn't like to. It's difficult for her to get. But we're gonna. We're gonna. We're gonna go and see this. She's very excited. And it's. And, yeah. So those are the big shows in London at the moment.

[Taylor Antrim]

We did it, guys.

[Cho Menardi]

Yeah.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah.

[Taylor Antrim]

We went all the way around the Cultural Wall.

[Cho Menardi]

I know. I know.

[Chloe Sharma]

We did.

[Cho Menardi]

How did we manage it?

[Chloe Sharma]

We have seen a lot.

[Taylor Antrim]

We lay everything out.

[Cho Menardi]

I know. Wow.

[Taylor Antrim]

Yeah.

[Chloe Sharma]

Poetry.

[Taylor Antrim]

We're not gonna do a poetry corner. Well, this was so fun.

[Chloe Sharma]

Yeah.

[Taylor Antrim]

So great to see you in the studio.

[Chloe Sharma]

So nice to do it in person.

[Cho Menardi]

I know, right? Exactly. Yeah. Nice. Way to start Monday.

[Taylor Antrim]

Yeah.

[Promo Voice]

The Run through is produced by Chelsea Daniel, Alex DePalma and Stephanie Kariuki. It's engineered by Pran Bandy and James Yost. It is mixed by Mike Kutchman. Chris Bannon is Conde Nast, head of Global Audio Foreign.

[David Remnick]

Hi. This is David Remnick, editor of the New Yorker. This fall, join us in celebrating the 100th anniversary of the New Yorker at the New Yorker Festival, returning October 24 through 26. We'll be joined by Salman Rushdie, Sarah Jessica Parker, George Saunders, Zadie Smith, Rasheed Johnson, Keanu Reeves, and many others. Tickets are on sale now, now, and we'll be announcing more events soon. You can learn [e-mail] festival. That's the newyorker.com festival.

[Chloe Sharma]

From PRX.