Podcast Summary: The Run-Through with Vogue
Episode: Reflecting on Demna’s Balenciaga | PLUS Vogue Editors on Anna Wintour's News
Release Date: July 3, 2025
Hosted by Chioma Nnadi (Choma) and Chloe Malle
1. Introduction and Overview
In this episode of The Run-Through with Vogue, hosts Chioma Nnadi and Chloe Malle delve into the impactful decade of Demna Ghazal at Balenciaga, coinciding with his final show for the house at the upcoming Paris Couture Shows. The discussion is enriched by insights from Vogue editors Nicole Phelps, Laia Garcia Furtado, and Sarah Mower, who collectively analyze Demna’s influence on fashion and pop culture.
Chloe Mel (00:01): "Summer is in full swing and my closet looks better than ever this season thanks to quints..."
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2. Demna’s Legacy at Balenciaga
The conversation centers on Demna Ghazal’s transformative decade at Balenciaga, highlighting his role in shaping contemporary fashion and his influence on global pop culture.
Chioma Nnadi (01:36): "Today we are looking back at Demna's decade at Balenciaga. I like the sound of that."
Chloe Mel (01:38): "Demna is obviously a powerhouse in our industry and has shaped pop culture and fashion in so many ways."
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Nicole Phelps (19:14): "Sarah and Laia, welcome to the podcast."
Sarah Mower (19:20): "He's one of the designers who really did have a really big effect on the way people dressed..."
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Key Points:
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Impact on Streetwear and High Fashion: Demna amplified streetwear aesthetics, integrating them into high fashion, exemplified by his iconic "ugly dad trainers" which became mainstream.
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Innovative Shows: Demna utilized digital technology and immersive experiences in his runway shows, pushing the boundaries of traditional fashion presentations.
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Autobiographical and Sociopolitical Themes: His collections often reflected his personal experiences as a refugee and his awareness of global issues like climate change and geopolitical conflicts.
Notable Quote:
Sarah Mower (34:56): "He was really working through real life problems... that's why you could always find landmarks of the times we live in."
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3. Anna Wintour Steps Down as Editor-in-Chief
A significant portion of the episode discusses the recent announcement of Anna Wintour stepping down from her role as Editor-in-Chief of American Vogue after 37 years, though she remains involved as Chief Content Officer for Condé Nast and Vogue’s Global Editorial Director.
Choma (03:48): "Our boss, Anna Wintour, announced that she's stepping down from her role as editor in chief of American Vogue after 37 years."
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Chloe Mel (04:08): "She will continue as chief content officer for Conde Nast and Vogue's global editorial director. So she technically isn't going anywhere."
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Choma (05:10): "There's going to be a global worldwide search, so I don't think there's going to be an announcement anytime soon."
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Chloe Mel (05:24): "The person coming into this role will have the title head of editorial content, not editor in chief..."
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Transition of Roles: Anna Wintour’s transition focuses on maintaining her influence within Vogue and Condé Nast while stepping back from daily editorial duties.
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Future Leadership: The search for her successor is expected to be thorough, aiming to find someone who can uphold Vogue’s legacy while bringing fresh perspectives.
Notable Quote:
Chloe Mel (05:24): "This is really a new role. It's a different role. And as is true of every job and occupation, whoever comes in will make this what makes sense for them."
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4. Highlights from Recent Fashion Shows
The hosts and guests discuss several standout moments from recent fashion weeks, focusing on designers like Jonathan Anderson at Dior, Jacquemus, Wales Bonner, and others.
Choma (08:37): "It's been quite an eventful week. Obviously, everybody was anticipating Jonathan's debut at Dior."
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Chola Mel (14:36): "Couture this season, I think, will be a little bit more quiet than usual..."
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Jonathan Anderson at Dior: Anderson’s debut showcased a blend of utility and playful design, received positively with high-profile attendees like Rihanna and A$AP Rocky.
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Jacquemus at Versailles: Dedicated to his family history, the collection emphasized emotional depth and sophistication, marking a mature evolution in his design aesthetic.
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Wales Bonner and Willie Shavarria: Bonner’s “Jewel” collection and Shavarria’s politically charged designs underscored the intersection of fashion with social commentary.
Notable Quote:
Choma (09:58): "I also love his sense of humor. I thought it was fun to see Rihanna carrying the Bram Stoker's Dracula bag."
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5. Glastonbury Festival Insights
The conversation shifts to the recent Glastonbury Festival, highlighting notable performances and fashion statements from artists like Dochi, Charli XCX, and Olivia Rodrigo.
Choma (15:42): "There was so many amazing moments at Glastonbury. I think everybody was talking about Dochi and Charli XCX..."
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Chloe Mel (16:38): "She's at Wimbledon with her cute boyfriend. Very... we love courtside style."
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Fashion at Glastonbury: Artists showcased bold and eclectic styles, reflecting the festival’s vibrant and diverse culture.
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Celebrity Appearances: High-profile attendees like Olivia Rodrigo and Cate Blanchett stood out with their unique fashion choices, blending performance and personal style.
Notable Quote:
Choma (16:25): "I think one of the suits that maybe Naomi Campbell wore, I think it was the same plaid."
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6. Couture Plans and Upcoming Shows
Hosts discuss their excitement for upcoming couture shows, including Jonathan Anderson’s anticipated debut at Dior and Demna’s final show at Balenciaga.
Choma (14:36): "My summer couture plans include Jonathan's debut at Dior and Demna's last show at Balenciaga."
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Chloe Mel (15:30): "I'll be going in on Sunday for Michael Ryder's first show for Celine."
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Choma (15:17): "Glenn Martens will be showing his debut for Margiela... lots to look forward to."
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7. In-Depth Interview with Sarah Mower and Laia Garcia Furtado
The latter part of the episode features an interview with Vogue editors Sarah Mower and Laia Garcia Furtado, discussing Demna’s final couture show and his overarching impact on fashion.
Nicole Phelps (19:14): "Sarah and Laia, welcome to the podcast."
Sarah Mower (19:20): "He changed the way people dressed. Not many designers get to change the way people dress."
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Key Points:
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Demna’s Design Philosophy: Emphasis on play, innovation, and merging high fashion with streetwear aesthetics.
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Couture Show Reflections: Demna’s final show replicated the original Balenciaga couture salon, blending tradition with his unique, avant-garde approach.
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Personal Anecdotes: Sarah shares memorable moments, including Demna’s humorous side and his ability to infuse deep sociopolitical commentary into his collections.
Notable Quotes:
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Choma (29:56): "The anticipation was that, you know, you could feel it in your every fiber."
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Sarah Mower (34:56): "He was really working through real life problems... landmarks of the times we live in."
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Sarah Mower (39:09): "I think there is a thing about him also trying to make fashion part of the culture at large."
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8. Concluding Remarks
The episode wraps up with hosts reflecting on the dynamic nature of fashion leadership transitions and expressing anticipation for future developments in the industry.
Nicole Phelps (50:09): "You get a little bit of a clean, cleanish slate."
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Choma (51:37): "From prx."
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Final Notes
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Production Credits:
Produced by Chelsea Daniel, Alex DePalma, and Stephanie Kariuki. Engineered by Pran Bandy and mixed by Mike Kutchman. Chris Bannon is Conde Nast's Head of Global Audio. -
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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions and insights shared in the episode, providing listeners with an in-depth understanding of Demna Ghazal’s influence at Balenciaga, the transition of leadership at Vogue, and the latest happenings in the fashion world.
