The Run-Through with Vogue

Episode: The Surprising Gift Gwendoline Christie Has From Wednesday | PLUS On Set For The October Cover with Kendall and Gigi!
Date: September 8, 2025
Hosts: Chloe Malle (Editor, Vogue.com), Chioma Nnadi (Head of British Vogue) — with guest co-hosts and special guests including Gwendoline Christie

Episode Overview

This episode of The Run-Through dives into two main events capturing Vogue’s attention this week:

• Behind-the-scenes details from the October cover shoot featuring Kendall Jenner and Gigi Hadid, complete with tales of Western glamour in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.
• An in-depth, effervescent conversation with actress and fashion icon Gwendoline Christie about the latest season of Wednesday, her legendary Galliano couture moment, costume obsessions, and the true art of keeping secrets in a tell-all era.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. On Set for the October Cover: Kendall & Gigi’s Western Adventure

[00:25–16:02]

Team Vogue’s Jackson Hole Experience

• Chloe Malle is joined by Ignacio Murillo (Talent Casting Director) and Sam Sussman (Global Director of Social Media) as they recount the cover shoot at Diamond Cross Ranch, Jackson Hole.
• The shoot was described as "Vogue summer camp," a joyful bonding moment in a stunning natural setting (“I tried every hotel in that city... It was a real reset for me.” — Chloe Malle, 02:03).

Fashion & Atmosphere

• The models donned brands like Rodarte, Marc Jacobs, McQueen, Vuitton, and mixed “cowboy couture” with authentic ranch style: vintage boots, real Stetsons, and all.
• Iconic shoot moodboards: Inspirations included Brigitte Bardot, Marilyn Monroe, and Arthur Elgort’s 90s fashion photography.

On-Set Vibes and Memorable Moments

• “The most positive, joyful set. There was never usually… someone gets upset or you feel kind of stress… But this just felt effortless and joyful.” — Ignacio Murillo, 03:38
• Local wildlife and the landscape played into the fun, with cows, bison, and usable horses for the equestrian models. (“Bison crossing moments” became the traffic issue of the day.)
• Both Kendall and Gigi, experienced horsewomen, were in their element. Gigi’s assuredness around a live electric fence drew laughter and admiration.

Collaboration & Creative Input

• Photographer Lachlan Bailey was open to Kendall and Gigi’s creative input:
  “I’ve never seen Kendall work in a way where she was kind of… very involved. It was kind of nice just seeing [that side of her].” — Ignacio, 09:23

Personal Details and Friendships

• Chloe learned the origins of the cover concept — the Western visual was actually Kendall’s idea, a dream deferred from a previous shoot due to weather.
• Candid moments: At their Airbnb, the models bonded over Country Strong and home-cooked meals, underlining the authenticity of their friendship off camera.
• “There is something touching about looking at what happens to a lot of us with our friendships… You can see them, and you just pick up where you left off.” — Chloe, 12:11.

Gigi & Kendall: Admiration from the Industry

• Designers Marc Jacobs, Jacquemus, and Jeremy Scott praised their professionalism (“They are like athletes…never late, good sports, always come to perform,” 13:05).
• Gigi’s secret Disney audition (for Rapunzel) was revealed, and Kendall’s alias at equestrian competitions provides her privacy and normality.

2. Gwendoline Christie: The Magic in Fashion and Secrets from ‘Wednesday’

[16:49–57:30]

A Rare Podcast Appearance

• Gwendoline Christie, renowned for Game of Thrones and now Wednesday, joins Chloe Malle and Mark Holgate (Vogue Fashion News Director).
• “This is only my third ever podcast. Having previously sworn I would never do a podcast it seems I can't get enough of them.” — Gwendoline Christie, 17:02

First Encounters and Fashion Idol Moments

• Mark shares their first meeting (via Christie's partner, designer Giles Deacon); Gwendoline recalls being awestruck at her first visit to Vogue HQ, reverently declining to enter Anna Wintour's office.
• Mark and Gwendoline reminisce attending the Karl Lagerfeld Met Gala exhibition and wandering in awe (“We were both staggering…far too overexcited by the fashions,” 20:17).

Manifesting Her Runway Dream

• Christie shares the story of how she realized her dream of walking for John Galliano:
  “You said to me... tell me some of your hopes and dreams... and I said, I want to walk in a show for John Galliano. And you said, is that it?... You manifested it.” — Gwendoline, 21:07
• The experience was emotionally transformative, with Galliano himself affirming her beauty:
  “My idol told me I was beautiful. And I felt I could believe him because it was about all of my brokenness and all my vulnerability… The experience was a rebirth.” — Gwendoline, 23:37

The Art of Keeping Secrets

• She takes pride in the “lost art” of secrecy, delighting in surprising friends with her Galliano runway appearance (24:44).

Her Relationship with Fashion and Designers

• High praise for designers like Sarah Burton (Givenchy) and Matthieu Blazy (Chanel). Christie admires their blend of technical mastery, cinematic references, and support for unconventional women.
• Reflects on her deep love for Hitchcock heroines, translating this inspiration into her character for Wednesday (now taking the role of Wednesday’s spirit guide in season 2).

Costume Philosophy and Collaboration

• She details working closely with both Tim Burton and legendary costume designer Colleen Atwood to craft a modern, empowered “Hitchcock woman.”
• For a pivotal Wednesday reveal, she collabed secretly with Sarah Burton on a “Vertigo” suit, melding cinematic past with avant-garde structure:
  “It had to operate on many levels... a nod to the character... melded with me, the actress... modern, but really acknowledge the past.” — Gwendoline, 34:11

On Her Return to ‘Wednesday’ and Life After Thrones

• Spoiler territory: Returning as a ghost in Season 2, Christie reveals she originally thought her role was “one and done” but was lured back by Tim Burton.
• “I’ve wanted to work with Tim Burton my whole life.” — Gwendoline, 37:35

Personal Passions, Style Roots, and the Joy of Fashion

• An extended discussion on corsetry legends (notably Mr. Pearl), growing up absorbing fashion from afar (“I would memorize [collections] because I was trying to learn, trying to understand what the story was,” 47:27), and even applying to St. Martin’s before eventually turning to acting.

Red Carpet as Storytelling

• Christie treats public appearances as narrative moments, prioritizing meaningful relationships with designers and personal symbolism over “method dressing.”

Collaboration with Giles Deacon

• Christie and Deacon’s partnership is highlighted as a deeply respectful, creative union — “one of the joys of my life is to have a constant artistic collaboration in that way.” — Gwendoline, 53:41

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Keeping Secrets in the Spotlight
  "It's a very forgotten art. Oh, my. Love it so much. So I told no one I was doing it... I'd just been saying to friends, I've been texting people... but looking into those people's faces, it was life changing."
  — Gwendoline Christie, [24:36]

• On the Galliano Runway Experience
  "My idol told me I was beautiful, and I felt I could believe him because it was about all of my brokenness and all my vulnerability... The experience was a rebirth...."
  — Gwendoline Christie, [23:37]

• Kendall and Gigi’s Friendship Dynamic
  "There is something touching... with our friendships, where you cannot talk to someone for six months, but then certain people, you can just text them something, and it’s like no time has passed."
  — Chloe Malle, [12:11]

• The Love of Costumes
  "Tim Burton said I could have all of my costumes in Series 1, and I was too nervous... I never asked for it… but I was given my gravestone.”
  — Gwendoline Christie, [54:52]

• On Artistic Partnership
  "It is one of the joys of my life to have a constant artistic collaboration in that way. And it is ours."
  — Gwendoline Christie (about Giles Deacon), [53:41]

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:25 | Intro: Team Vogue on October cover shoot with Kendall & Gigi | | 03:38 | Positive, fun set vibes; anecdotes from Jackson Hole | | 10:11 | Insider interview: Kendall & Gigi’s friendship, behind-the-scenes | | 16:49 | Gwendoline Christie joins the conversation | | 19:24 | Manifesting Galliano runway wish, the “Met Gala” moment | | 23:37 | Life-changing Galliano Show and the art of keeping secrets | | 27:31 | Fashion week expectations: Chanel, Sarah Burton at Givenchy, Hitchcock | | 34:11 | Creative process behind the “Vertigo” suit for Wednesday | | 37:35 | Working with Tim Burton and returning to ‘Wednesday’ | | 42:09 | Talk on iconic corset maker Mr. Pearl, and early fashion fascinations | | 47:27 | Fashion as storytelling, formative influences, memorizing collections | | 53:41 | Collaboration with Giles Deacon and sustaining artistic partnerships | | 54:47 | Speed round: souvenirs, pop culture guilty pleasures, music, and more |

Tone and Atmosphere

The episode is vibrant, reverent toward creativity, and full of warmth and wit—particularly between Gwendoline and her Vogue friends. It oscillates between behind-the-scenes candor and deep philosophical musings on artistry, transformation, and the power of personal relationships in fashion.

In Summary

This episode celebrates the artistry and camaraderie behind both the magazine’s biggest cover shoots and the spotlight of international stardom. Listeners hear not only about Vogue’s October issue and the idyllic chaos of Wyoming ranch adventures, but also the marvels and secrets behind Gwendoline Christie’s most recent creative projects. It’s an ode to transformation, storytelling—both personal and sartorial—and the joys of keeping a little mystery alive.