Podcast Summary: The Run-Through with Vogue
Episode: Why Gwyneth Paltrow Is Back On Sourdough and Cheese
Date: December 2, 2025
Host: Chioma Nnadi (Head of British Vogue)
Guest: Gwyneth Paltrow
Episode Overview
In this lively episode of The Run-Through with Vogue, Chioma Nnadi sits down with Gwyneth Paltrow to discuss her much-anticipated return to acting in the film "Marty Supreme," her approach to fashion, transformations in wellness culture, her new favorite indulgence (hint: sourdough and cheese), and her evolving philosophy around aging and beauty. The episode is filled with candid reflections, behind-the-scenes stories, and warm humor that offer listeners an intimate look at Paltrow’s personal and professional journey.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Gwyneth’s Big-Screen Comeback
- Return to Acting after 5 Years
- Paltrow stars in "Marty Supreme" alongside Timothée Chalamet, Odessa Azion, Tyler, the Creator, and Kevin O’Leary.
- Chioma’s reaction: "It definitely ranks up there with one of my favorite films of the year." (03:14)
- Nerves and Re-learning the Craft
- Gwyneth reflects on feeling rusty and anxious about returning.
“I was really stuck. I was really nervous. I had fear around the idea that I would, you know, not be able to… do I remember how to learn lines? And like, how did I use to get into deep emotion?... I was nervous.” — Gwyneth Paltrow [05:22]
- The first day of filming, which involved a theater scene, helped her ease back in due to her theater background.
- Gwyneth reflects on feeling rusty and anxious about returning.
- Choosing the Script & Character Inspiration
- Gwyneth was drawn to the complexity of her character "Kay," describing her as a "darker, more fucked up version of Grace Kelly."
“She had this big film career, and then she gets married and she stops and she’s incredibly broken… but then she still had this vulnerability.” — Gwyneth Paltrow [07:00]
- Gwyneth was drawn to the complexity of her character "Kay," describing her as a "darker, more fucked up version of Grace Kelly."
2. Costume & Fashion Love Affair
- Obsession With The Costumes
- Both Gwyneth and Chioma fan over costume designer Miyako Bellis.
“She’s so brilliant because she’s so cool… making these 50s outfits that were so period but also so modern.” — Gwyneth Paltrow [12:08]
- Favorite on-set look: An unrevealed yellow organza/chiffon dress, seen only partially in a restaurant scene.
- Both Gwyneth and Chioma fan over costume designer Miyako Bellis.
- Fashion History Tidbits
- Gwyneth discusses working with designers like Calvin Klein on Sliding Doors and Donna Karan on Great Expectations.
“I did two movies where I was completely outfitted by one designer… it was right in that 90s minimal Calvin time, which is amazing.” — Gwyneth Paltrow [36:32]
- Royal Tenenbaums style still inspires her and many: “It’s a very iconic costume film… it remains, like, on people’s Pinterest boards, you know, when they’re creating stuff.” [35:56]
- Gwyneth discusses working with designers like Calvin Klein on Sliding Doors and Donna Karan on Great Expectations.
3. Evolving Relationship with Acting & Creativity
- Burnout and Rediscovery
- On her initial burnout: “In my 20s… I was really, like, chasing something… I have to do everything… I just was so exhausted.” [09:15]
- Now values selective, meaningful artistic engagement:
“I think I would really want to make sure that I was doing something where I felt that I was really growing as an artist… and just be very judicious.” [14:11]
4. Family, Group Chats & Pop Culture Fumbles
- Parenting and the Group Chat
- Her group chats (both "mommy" and "mummy") with friends are sources of emotional support, advice, and everyday laughter.
“It's so fortifying and incredibly enriching to… have a really wobbly moment where you’re empty nesting… we all just come together, this beautiful cocoon and are there for each other.” [19:03]
- Her group chats (both "mommy" and "mummy") with friends are sources of emotional support, advice, and everyday laughter.
- Timothée Chalamet and Kylie Jenner Revelation
- Gwyneth humorously recounts being schooled by her children for not knowing about Timothée Chalamet's relationship with Kylie Jenner.
“They don't read my articles, are you kidding? … Mom, you are so, like, are you insane? How can you not know this?” [17:28]
- Gwyneth humorously recounts being schooled by her children for not knowing about Timothée Chalamet's relationship with Kylie Jenner.
5. Wellness: Then and Now
- Origins of Her Wellness Obsession
- Her father’s cancer diagnosis inspired her to question health norms and become a wellness pioneer.
“I've always been like, we should be at liberty to ask any questions… entitled to have agency and curiosity around our own health.” [22:02]
- Her father’s cancer diagnosis inspired her to question health norms and become a wellness pioneer.
- Perspective on Today’s Wellness Trends
- Cautions against extremes, encourages listening to one’s own body.
- Maintains simple practices: sleep, hydration, nutrition, movement, and meditation.
“The best wellness things are kind of the most obvious… Nutritional density and quality of food, movement, exercise, sweating…” [24:44]
- Current Wellness Habits
- Daily use of the Oura ring to monitor sleep. Hormonal shifts have affected her sleep score.
“Now it’s so bizarre. Like, some nights I'll get a 93 and then the next night I'll have like 71.” [26:19]
- Still enjoys an occasional cocktail — old fashioned or vodka martini with olives.
- Daily use of the Oura ring to monitor sleep. Hormonal shifts have affected her sleep score.
6. Sourdough, Cheese, and Pleasure
- Food as the New Indulgence
- After avoiding grains for inflammation, Gwyneth is back on “good sourdough and cheese.”
“I just love it. So much. Love, love, love.” [27:49]
- After avoiding grains for inflammation, Gwyneth is back on “good sourdough and cheese.”
7. Aging, Beauty, and Acceptance
- Natural Approach to Aging
- Prefers functionality over extreme beauty routines, though values feeling vibrant.
“I'm not interested in trying to erase every crow's feet… this is the story of my life.” [29:20]
- Prefers functionality over extreme beauty routines, though values feeling vibrant.
- Handling Societal Pressure
- More interested in internal reconciliation than external expectations. Cites Kate Winslet as a role model:
“To have that level of self-acceptance, imagine the freedom… She's sort of my… I look to her in that regard of, like, how to age with so much grace and power.” [31:11]
- More interested in internal reconciliation than external expectations. Cites Kate Winslet as a role model:
8. Tribute to Her Mother
- Favorite Performance
- Blythe Danner as Blanche in A Streetcar Named Desire at Williamstown Theater Festival.
“I had never been moved by a performance like that in my life… I was weeping… just how brilliant my mother was.” [33:38]
- Blythe Danner as Blanche in A Streetcar Named Desire at Williamstown Theater Festival.
9. Red Carpet Outlook for "Marty Supreme"
- Excited to approach the premiere fashion in collaboration with her longtime stylist Elizabeth Saltzman.
“We’re having a lot of fun doing the fittings and thinking about what we want to wear… I really like to be comfortable… at my age, I want to be comfortable.” [38:25]
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
On returning to acting:
“I was nervous. I had fear… Do I remember how to learn lines? ... But then it started to come back, you know? ... I was so grateful to be so full of life again about it.” — Gwyneth Paltrow [05:22, 10:59]
On wellness trends:
“We are entitled to have agency and curiosity around our own health.” — Gwyneth Paltrow [22:02]
On aging and beauty:
“It's like, you know, this is the story of my life… I'm not interested in trying to erase every crow's feet and this and that.” — Gwyneth Paltrow [29:20]
On pleasure after restrictive diets:
"Now I'm back on good sourdough and some grains and, and cheese and I just love it. So much. Love, love, love." — Gwyneth Paltrow [27:49]
On personal style:
“You wear the clothes so well. You really, you see you.” — Chioma Nnadi [37:39]
Timestamps for Key Segments
- 03:43 – Gwyneth reflects on the cover shoot and returning to acting
- 07:00 – Inspiration for her "Marty Supreme" character, Kay
- 12:08 – Favorite costumes and obsession with costume designer
- 14:11 – Criteria for accepting future acting roles
- 19:03 – The importance and evolution of her group chats
- 22:02 – Origins and evolution of her wellness philosophy
- 24:44 – Core wellness habits and perspective on health trends
- 26:19 – Experiencing hormonal changes’ impact on sleep
- 27:49 – Returning to bread and cheese: her “new cigarette”
- 29:20 – Thoughts on beauty, skincare, and aging
- 31:11 – Navigating societal and internal pressures around aging
- 33:38 – Her mother’s powerful stage performance
- 36:32 – On collaborating with NY designers for film looks
- 38:25 – Upcoming red carpet fashion plans
Overall Tone & Language
Warm, open, and often nostalgic, the conversation blends insightful reflections with laughter and relatability. Gwyneth is candid, self-aware, and grounded; Chioma’s admiration and curiosity keep the exchange lively and sincere.
For Listeners
If you want a crash course in modern wellness, red carpet inspiration, and the continued evolution of one Hollywood star’s mind and style, this thoughtful and entertaining episode is a must-listen.
