Billy Carson: How to Manifest Anything with This Ancient Formula

Summary

Podcast Summary: The School of Greatness

Episode: Billy Carson: How to Manifest Anything with This Ancient Formula

Host: Lewis Howes
Guest: Billy Carson
Date: October 10, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this insightful episode, Lewis Howes sits down with Billy Carson—author, researcher, and entrepreneur—to discuss the intersection of ancient wisdom, cutting-edge science, and practical strategies for manifesting your dreams. Carson breaks down the “ancient formula” for manifestation, connecting ideas from quantum physics, neuroscience, and spiritual traditions. Together, they explore the nature of reality, the power of self-belief, the steps to authentic manifestation, and how to overcome deep-seated trauma for true transformation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Nature of the Universe and Dimensions (01:51–12:23)

• Universe as Holographic Matrix:
  Carson describes the universe as "a fractal holographic matrix made of light" (02:04), explaining that even solid objects are simply light at different frequencies.
• Dimensions Explained:
  Drawing from quantum physics, Billy discusses the existence of at least 11 dimensions, with each stacked atop the other and separated by frequency (04:17).

  “The only thing separating these dimensions is a frequency...and those higher up can, in theory, tune themselves to enter our reality.” (05:01, Billy Carson)

• Interstellar as Science:
  The movie “Interstellar” is cited as being founded on real science: “All this knowledge is resonating inside of every atom in our body already.” (07:03, Billy Carson)
• Universe as a Living Being:
  Carson posits the universe is conscious—a living being with us as its "friends", transmitting data back to the source (07:46–10:46).

2. Consciousness, Reality, and Manifestation (12:24–21:48)

• Brain’s Connection to Higher Dimensions:
  Citing neuroscience, Carson says the human brain connects to 11 dimensions, and synapses sometimes "vanish" and reappear, suggesting minds may interact with other realms (13:17).
• Dreams as Higher Reality:
  “Dreams are probably closer to reality.” (13:53, Billy Carson) — With references to Aboriginal “dreamtime”, Carson argues dreams may be glimpses into higher dimensions.
• Ancient Manifestation Formula:
  Carson recounts stories from the Sumerian tablets, where beings envision desired outcomes and take aligned action to “collapse” these into reality (15:35–18:42).

  “Conscious thought multiplied by action equals manifestation... CT x A = M.” (17:30, Billy Carson)

3. The Mechanics of Manifestation (21:49–55:31)

• Power of Words and Self-Talk:
  Voice and language—supported by studies like Emoto’s water experiment—directly impact physical reality.

  “You literally have a double-edged sword in your mouth.” (19:54, Billy Carson)

• Negative Self-Talk:
  Avoid saying “I suck, I’m horrible, I’m not good enough”; instead, rephrase challenges as opportunities for growth (21:51–22:31).
• Resilience Through Adversity:
  Billy shares overcoming recent illness, demonstrating the power of internal dialogue in healing (22:29–24:04).

  “I’m telling my body consistently... I could have succumbed to this and told myself, ‘this thing took me over’.” (23:37, Billy Carson)

• Belief & Forgiveness as Foundations:
  Belief in oneself and forgiveness (especially of the self) are prerequisites for manifesting positive change (28:02–32:21).

4. Trauma, Healing, and Mastering Energy (33:12–43:29)

• Importance of Inner Work:
  Trauma blocks manifestation; healing, forgiveness, and space-clearing are necessary steps (33:12–34:19).
• Scientific Proof of Positive Affirmations:
  Speaking positive affirmations six times daily for 21 days can physically rewrite DNA (38:05–41:17).
• DNA as Information Storage:
  The body’s DNA can store massive amounts of information, echoing ancient texts claiming we carry the universe’s secrets within (41:36–43:10).

5. Steps & Strategies for Manifesting (53:04–70:25)

• Key Affirmations:

  • “I am the architect of my life.”
  • “I’m worthy of abundance, great relationships, happiness, and peace.” (44:13, Billy Carson)

• From Survival to Abundance:
  Carson attributes personal breakthroughs to discovering personal agency (“It’s me that’s going to save me.” (45:45)), reflecting on early-and-late-life financial lessons.

• Manifestation Formula Summed Up:

  1. Forgive Yourself – Release trauma and energetic baggage.
  2. Positive Affirmations – Program your subconscious and even your DNA.
  3. Be Specific – Crystal-clear intention is critical (“test drive the car, know the details…” (61:59–62:30)).
  4. Visualize with Feeling – Meditate daily on already living your dream.
  5. Take Consistent Action – Manifestation = Thought x Action.
  6. Recognize Opportunities – The universe provides openings; act on them.
  7. Express Gratitude – Deep, felt gratitude amplifies results and attracts more.

  “What you want to manifest, you have to be very specific.” (61:59, Billy Carson)

6. The Science and Philosophy of Time, Thought, and Frequency (72:37–101:01)

• Time as an Illusion:
  “Time is actually an illusion… clocks exist, but time doesn’t exist.” (72:42, 76:33, Billy Carson)
• Multiple Timelines:
  Quantum physics supports infinite timelines—all possible realities are playing out simultaneously (73:28–74:44).
• Who Thinks the Thought?:
  Thoughts are often entangled with information from the universe; ideas are frequently downloaded from a “field” or collective consciousness (78:32–79:53).
• Flow & Greatness:
  Elite performers (e.g., Michael Jordan) anticipate reality by seconds—“closer to real time” than most, operating from deep self-belief (82:41–85:12).

7. Emotional Mastery, Collaboration, and Ancient Lessons for Humanity (94:07–110:26)

• Emotions Shape Energy, Energy Alters Destiny:
  Emotional states are broadcast through our biofield, impacting ourselves and others (94:07–95:41).
  • Suppressing emotion leads to dis-ease; allow yourself to feel and process fully.
• From Competition to Collaboration:
  Humanity’s issues stem from ego, ancient trauma, and a competitive mindset. The future depends on shifting to collaboration and healing familial and ancestor-programmed trauma (107:05–110:19).

  “The only way to break ancestral trauma is meditation and positive affirmations.” (107:55, Billy Carson)

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• "Conscious thought multiplied by action equals manifestation."
  — Billy Carson (17:30)

• “The universe is a wave of potentials. So waves of light moving out until a conscious observer collapses them into the illusion of reality.”
  — Billy Carson (04:12)

• "Forgive yourself. This is the biggest reason why people don't believe in themselves."
  — Billy Carson (28:24)

• “The only way to break [ancestral trauma] is through positive affirmations and meditation.”
  — Billy Carson (107:55)

• “I feel like I’m commanding realities. The same spark that created everything in the universe from the divine is in every atom in my body.”
  — Billy Carson (53:39)

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Timestamps for Key Topics

• Universe as Light Matrix, Dimensions: 02:04–05:29
• Dreams, Higher Dimensions: 13:44–14:36
• Ancient Manifestation (Sumerian Tablets, Personal Story): 15:35–17:30
• CT x A = M Formula: 17:30–18:42
• Power of Words, Self-Talk: 19:54–23:37
• Belief, Forgiveness, and Overcoming Trauma: 28:02–34:19
• DNA & Affirmations: 38:05–41:17
• Practical Manifestation Steps: 61:59–70:25
• Time as Illusion & Multiple Timelines: 72:37–77:21
• Manifestation & Elite Performance/Flow States: 82:26–85:12
• Emotions, Energy, and Healing: 94:07–98:32
• Competition vs. Collaboration, Humanity’s Golden Age: 107:05–110:26

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Three Truths (Billy Carson’s Final Lessons) (133:38)

1. Love is the Ultimate Frequency:
   “To make sure you get on the love frequency, because without love, nothing can persist.”
2. Balance Material and Non-Material:
   Focus on relationships over things and have balance.
3. Be of Service:
   “What legacy can you leave behind that would be better than people remembering how you helped them in their darkest time?”

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Billy Carson’s Definition of Greatness (134:39)

“True greatness is when someone really understands that the power to save themselves is within themselves... Analyze the problem and focus on solutions... be a part of the solution.”

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Episode Takeaways

• You are the architect of your reality.
• Forgiving yourself and clearing past trauma is the essential first step to manifesting anything.
• Your thoughts, words, and actions—delivered with specificity and gratitude—collapse potentials into physical reality.
• Gratitude, love, and being of service are not just spiritual fluff—they are measurable energetic frequencies that literally shape your world.
• True greatness, abundance, and peace arise when you reclaim your power, believe in yourself, and collaborate instead of compete.

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Further Resources

• Billy Carson: ForbiddenKnowledge.com, Forbidden Knowledge TV app, books: Fractal Holographic Universe, Woke Doesn't Mean Broke
• Host: Lewis Howes: School of Greatness

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For a deep dive into quantum manifestation, the impacts of words and thoughts, and humanity’s path to a golden age, this episode is an inspiring blend of science, story, and ancient wisdom—reminding us all of our power to shape reality.

Transcript

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[Lewis Howes]

Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. The inspiring Billy Carson is in the house. Good to see you man.

[Billy Carson]

Hey man. It's an honor to be here. I mean truly an honor. I've been looking forward to this moment one day that we will finally get a chance to meet and talk. So it's an honor, my man.

[Lewis Howes]

I'm excited. I've been seeing your your content just kind of blow up online. So I want to make an easy three part question to start with.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

The first one is what is the universe? And are we living in a matrix? Okay, what dimension are we in right now? And how many dimensions are there? Yeah. And what is our purpose as human beings?

[Billy Carson]

Beautiful man, beautiful. We're on the same frequency. I could tell already. So the universe itself, in my personal opinion, based on my research, is a fractal holographic matrix made of light. Light that we can't particularly detect all of it. Like for example, dark energy, dark matter, what's creating this expansion of the universe. But the universe as a whole, even the things or the items that appear to be solid within the universe, in my opinion, are all made of light. And we learned this through the table. Light table is made of light. This table, for example, is a light frequency that slowed down. And so we give the illusion, or we get the illusion that is solid, but it's just a frequency wave that had been slowed down that's been collapsed into the illusion of solidity, the that we're calling a table. And we don't touch the table. We only have electromagnetic repulsion from this table. So the electrons orbiting the atoms within this table are repelling the electrons orbiting the atoms in my fingers. So you never really touch the table. You get a repulsion effect. And everything in the universe is pretty much set up that way. And what's incredible about the universe is human beings only could see less than 1% of the light spectrum. So we have this grand spectrum that we believe that we're taking in, but we're seeing a sliver of reality. We can't see ultraviolet, you know, multi spectrum infrared, you know, gamma rays, all these incredible frequencies. Microwaves. There's, there's microwaves floating all around us right now. We can't detect them. We'd be too distracted. But so the universe is very intelligent. It understands what can we process, how much can we process to navigate through this realm. But those other waves are there and these waves are what? Waves of light. So we know that through the double slit experiment in quantum physics that was done, that particles decide electrons that were shot through the little slit in the double slit experiment decide to be waves of potential or collapse themselves into digital bits of matter or information. And because of this, we understand that the entire universe is a wave of potentials. So waves of light moving out until a conscious observer collapses them into the illusion of reality.

[Lewis Howes]

Wow.

[Billy Carson]

And so that's what we're living in, a frago holographic light matrix.

[Lewis Howes]

That's the universe.

[Billy Carson]

That's the universe. Right.

[Lewis Howes]

How many dimensions are in this universe?

[Billy Carson]

So the dimensions. So quantum physicists and theoretical physicists like Michio Kako have been noticed stating that there's at least 11 dimensions to create this entire realm, this universe, and that this universe is dimensions stacked right on top of each other. So at a 90 degree angle right above the third dimension is a fourth and a 90 degree angle is a fifth. They're compactified. And yes, for anyone listening, that's a real word, compactified. And right on top of Each other. They're less than even a plaque length away from each other. And the only thing separating these dimensions is a frequency. So imagine a being in a higher dimension, right? Being able to obtain the subatomic frequency of the third dimension. That being may be able to technologically maybe shift its frequency to match this dimension and walk right in there. Be apparitions, paranormal activity, aliens, who knows, right? But we ourselves are trapped within this realm. We don't have the capability of, of changing our subatomic frequency to match higher dimensionals, higher dimensions. We just haven't developed that technology. Or maybe we, we don't know it.

[Lewis Howes]

Exists, but we haven't figured out how to do it yet.

[Billy Carson]

Right? The general public may not know how to do it.

[Lewis Howes]

Is this kind of like. If you could give an example for someone, they might be listening or watching right now thinking, I'm already lost. Is this kind of like an interstellar. When Makan's character like goes through the black hole and there's like kind of different stats. Dimensions of time and space.

[Billy Carson]

Correct. Is that what he gets to the black hole? He hits the event horizon. Now he's in time dilation, right? His spaceship falls apart. He falls into something called a tesseract, which is a fourth dimensional hypercube, or in ancient times known as Metatron's cube. Meta. Sounds familiar. In that fourth dimensional hypercube, he's in a higher dimension than the third. So from any dimension higher than the third, you can see the past, present and future all at once.

[Lewis Howes]

That's crazy.

[Billy Carson]

Yes.

[Lewis Howes]

Any dimension higher or just any, any dimension higher? 4th, 5th, 6th, at 11.

[Billy Carson]

Doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

[Lewis Howes]

Interesting.

[Billy Carson]

For example, we're in the third dimension. If you draw a line where you're witnessing the dimension of that single dimension, if you connect those lines and draw a house, you can see into every room of the house from the third dimension. Right. And so you can draw people in different rooms in that house and you can witness those people within that two dimensional structure from a higher dimension. It would be like someone looking at you in your house at different times of your life, which is what happened in interstellar.

[Lewis Howes]

Interesting.

[Billy Carson]

They can see you as a kid, a teenager of grown adult, a married man, whatever, from different perspectives, all at the same exact time.

[Lewis Howes]

So interstellar, kind of the movie itself. Was it kind of made up sci fi or is it based on scientific evidence we have today?

[Billy Carson]

It's based on scientific evidence we have today. Which is what made it so incredible and why it resonated with so Many people. Because all this knowledge is resonating inside of every atom in our body already, you know. And what does it mean to humanity? Right? What does this mean? It means that we're part of something incredibly great. We're part of something so vast, some people will maybe, may hear this and think, well, that means we're just a speck of dust. No, it means that we're connected to everything throughout the entire known universe, even connected through everything in the entire known multiverse. And it's a big grand play going on. And we have a huge part, a huge role in that. And everything we do here impacts the entire multiverse. Really? Yeah. The butterfly effect.

[Lewis Howes]

That's what the universe is.

[Billy Carson]

It's a living being also.

[Lewis Howes]

The universe is a being.

[Billy Carson]

It's a conscious being. Really. Yeah. So if you look at the hermetic principles from ancient times, as above, so below. Right. Also looking at it maybe even from a circle of the microcosm and the macrocosm, understanding that everything is made of fractals, right? We're living in a fractal holographic matrix, and we're just a fractal of the universe as a whole. Now look at the human body, right? We have a brain. The brain is encased in this skull, which is in darkness. But the brain itself doesn't know really what's going on on the outside. It has to connect with its friends. Sight, taste, the sensory touch, you know, and everything else and say and hearing. Go out and get the data. The friends go out and collect data. Right? But they themselves can't decipher the data. They have to transmit that data via electrical signals back to the brain. The brain takes all that data and sorts it all out and, and projects a hologram up to what it believes is going on on the outside. And we navigate this matrix based on a holographic projection from collected data. Now, the universe as a whole. Go to the macro. Is doing the same exact thing. When you zoom out from the universe, you see the way that the clusters of galaxies are compiled. It looks like neurons in a brain.

[Lewis Howes]

Really?

[Billy Carson]

Yes. The exact same structure of the inside of a human conscious brain. And then what's incredible is you realize that the universe itself, being conscious, it doesn't really know what's going on here in the third dimension, but it has its friends, human beings, cats, dogs, a rose, a blade of grass, even a rock. And what is it doing? Everything we know in the third dimension vibrates at a specific frequency. You can't even come to a complete halt. You can't make an atom stop vibrating. Everything vibrates. It's impossible to get to absolute zero unless you create these artificial laboratory conditions. So that means that everything is resonating and vibrating and sending information, in my opinion, back to the source.

[Lewis Howes]

Even if something's dead, it's still alive.

[Billy Carson]

The atoms in something dead are still vibrating because they're still atoms. They may convert themselves into something different. Like a dead thing may moving. It's moving, right? Even the atoms inside of burnt carbon, they're vibrating. The atom inside of a dead body, they're vibrating and they're getting ready to be recycled back into this grand system of life and could become something else. This transformation occurs, right? Nothing really ever truly dies. It just transforms.

[Lewis Howes]

So when you say the universe then has its own set of consciousness, or its own consciousness and its friends are the planets, the stars, beings, trees, water, and it's sending data to the universe?

[Billy Carson]

No, we're sending data back to. Yes, yes, correct.

[Lewis Howes]

It is.

[Billy Carson]

We. And everything else is setting data back. We're transmitting it back. Because consciousness is not local to the brain. It's downloaded as a stream. The brain itself, the physical brain, is a quantum computer to process that data and harness that, that stream of spiritual energy. But we also are two way when we're transmitting back. What is it like to be Billy Carson? What is like to be Lewis House? What lessons has Billy and Lewis learned throughout their entire life? The experience. What experiences are they having, good and bad? It's collecting information.

[Lewis Howes]

Wow.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

Okay, so we're in the 3D right now.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

What is the difference between the 3D and the 5D?

[Billy Carson]

Okay, that's a great question. So the third dimension, I'll tell you first, how scientists, or what this, what physicists believe this actually is, they created in the laboratory eighth dimensional quasi crystals. And those eighth dimensional quasi crystals, when turned to a particular angle, cast down a fourth dimensional quasi crystal. And when they twist that to a particular angle, it casts out a sphere, which is the shadow, a light shadow. A shadow of light from a higher dimension, which they believe is our known universe. So we're talking about now beginning to understand the basic mechanism that's creating the universe itself. Okay, so with that being said, understanding that, we now know that as you go up in dimensions, you're going up into higher levels of perception of realities. So do you have the fourth dimension, which used to think. People used to think it was time, but that's just an hour that we utilize here. In the third dimension, technically there is a fourth dimension called a Tesseract. And above that tesseract, you get to the fifth dimension. It gives you even a more broader expansion or understanding or view of what's really going on in all the realms beneath it, in itself and also beneath it. Wow. So every time you step up for a dimension, it's like becoming an ascended master. You're moving higher and higher through levels of consciousness. We know that even gravity through science is. They believe it's streaming down from higher dimensions all the way down to the third, making it one of the weakest forces here in the third dimension because it's truncating all the way down through these other higher dimensions as well.

[Podcast Host (Ad Reader)]

Interesting.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

So is it possible for humans to get out of the third dimension into a higher dimension?

[Billy Carson]

There's a couple different talk, you know, tablets that talk about this. In the Emerald Tablets of Thoth, he talks about being able to do this, being able to transcend dimensions through consciousness and actually having this, this out of body experience to take you to higher dimensions. He even gives the code words which are really frequencies to utter to get through the gates of Urulu.

[Podcast Host (Ad Reader)]

Wow.

[Billy Carson]

Other ancients in India and Egypt and, and Asia and even the indigenous cultures of the, the Aboriginals in Australia all have this same understanding that it's possible to transcend dimensions. They call it like becoming an ascended master. Wow. Becoming a sage and understanding how to tap into these higher dimensions. What's interesting is the Brain Institute just a couple of years ago discovered that the human brain connects to 11 dimensions.

[Lewis Howes]

That's crazy.

[Billy Carson]

Consciously we are connecting, so we are. They also saw something incredible that synapses, when they were watching these synapses, unexpectedly they would vanish from the third dimension. They would go somewhere and then they would reappear randomly. So they're now hypothesizing that the human mind is also quantum entangling with information, data or something else in another place and then reappearing here. So it just gets deeper and deeper, I guess.

[Lewis Howes]

Where are dreams then? What dimension are our dreams when we sleep?

[Billy Carson]

That's incredible. I would always think that from my perspective, that dreams are probably closer to reality.

[Lewis Howes]

Really?

[Billy Carson]

Yeah. I think that because the ancients, like the Aboriginals, call this dream time in this realm now, the Hopi tribe called this sleepy time. And what they're alluding to is that this reality, that this thing that we think is reality is not real, but that we have a higher self in another realm. And that a lot of the times the voice we hear in our head that we are proclaiming as this other Source, or maybe sometimes even other deity, really is our own self talking to us.

[Podcast Host (Ad Reader)]

Wow.

[Billy Carson]

And that there is another version of us that exists in a higher dimension, and we're spiritually connected with that higher source. And that dreams, potentially are glimpses of higher dimensions or being able to access some of these higher dimensions through consciousness.

[Lewis Howes]

You have so much content online that I've seen. We talk about these kind of, you know, aliens and pyramids and kind of all these different things, different dimensions. But I think the stuff that I like the most that you talk about, and I think that my audience resonates with the most, is around manifesting their dream reality. Like, they have an idea in their mind of what they want to create.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

A business, a relationship, get their health to a certain level. They want to achieve accomplishment in a sport or musical or success, whatever it might be. They want to take something they have in their mind and alchemize it into the real world that we're in. If this is real.

[Podcast Host (Ad Reader)]

Right.

[Lewis Howes]

But they want to create it in this reality.

[Billy Carson]

Yes.

[Lewis Howes]

And I'm curious with all your studies, because you've been studying this for decades about kind of ancient wisdom, forbidden wisdom.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

But also you've been studying modern philosophy and modern science as well as. Oh, yeah. So what does the ancient wisdom you've researched and modern science taught you about manifesting?

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, well, that's a great question. See, the ancient wisdom, you discover that there were these beings in the ancient Sumerian cuneiform tablets, and they were called the Anuna, and later they were called the Anunnaki. And in there, they. Some of them called themselves the Ordainers of Destiny. And what's so interesting about this is they actually had the capability or foreseeing potential outcomes based on whatever agenda they want to put out. But they would envision these potential outcomes. They would see them on this crystal tablet, which is so bizarre. First of all, this is 6,000 years ago, or maybe even more. But then they would. When they found the outcome that they wanted to happen, they would then create action steps toward that particular outcome, nudging that outcome into reality, collapsing it into their reality tunnel, making it a part of this third dimension while they're alive and living on that timeline. And I learned that really from them. You know, I had done this myself by accident as a younger kid, just coming up with the idea, like, if I want. If I want something, I've got to put action steps behind it. And I remember I was at my house and living in Opa Locka down in Miami. Florida, unincorporated Dade County, a very harsh neighborhood. And I was banned from leaving the front porch because the neighborhood was so deadly. But I was so tired of seeing my friends go to the ice cream trucks. And every single. I'm like, we're both poor. How can they get it every day? Like how? And so I said to myself, I'm going to take a risk. And I got a Winn Dixie milk crate that we had and I loaded up all my toys and I went door to door around the block and asked for donations for my toys. A penny, a nickel, a dollar, whatever. I just want to have money for the ice cream truck. And people were giving me money, these parents. When I got back to my front door, I actually had $13 and change. And I was like, how old were you? Wow. I was seven years old.

[Lewis Howes]

Seven?

[Billy Carson]

Yeah. And I was like, I'm sorry. Eight years old or eight, forgive me. Eight years.

[Lewis Howes]

That's a lot of money.

[Billy Carson]

Back in the 70s, that was a lot of money. As an eight year old, that was a lot of money.

[Lewis Howes]

13 bucks at eight you're rich.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, you' rich. And you had a lot of money for. Because ice cream was like, I only wanted the bazooka bubble gums. But the, the reason why I'm bringing this up is because I had a conscious thought. I saw, I envisioned potential outcome would be I would have money in my hands to buy my gum from the truck. And I took action. So it's conscious thought multiplied by action equals manifestation, which I then read later in ancient text. That's what the assured is. CT multiplied by A equals M. Conscious thought multiplied by action equals manifestation. Wow. That's the formula. And you can't get to that formula unless you go through that process. And these ancients knew this a very long time ago. And because they knew this, that reaffirmed in me. I can really create the reality that I want to be a part of. Yes, there will be things to come and blindside you. Yes, there will be things that will sidetrack you. Yes, there will be hurdles to overcome. But those things are all just problems that need to be, need to, have to. You have to find solutions to those problems instead of seeing those things as negative or this thing is attacking me, or this is. This is it. It's over for me. It's okay, we have a problem now. How can I be a part of the solution to this problem? Wow. And it's the, the, the trap. The, the, the, the trick is how do you create solutions consistently to get to your end goal?

[Lewis Howes]

Yeah. And then I guess the next, the follow up question around that is a lot of people don't even know what their dreams are or they have a loose idea, I want to make a million dollars, I want to lose weight or whatever it is, it's not fully clear. It's like they have a desire or they have a, a pleasurous outcome that they see others have that they want, but they're not clear. You can talk about the ancients used to have, I guess whether it was a real crystal ball or just their, their metaphors of like, hey, we could see it in our minds, in a crystal ball in our mind, seven different outcomes of how our life could play out if we wanted it. If we went this path and this path. And then you talk about the conscious thought in the action, the consistent action to go manifest and alchemize that idea and collapse time and space until reality meets that thought. So how important when man wanting to manifest your goals and dreams are our thoughts, our words and our actions? Yeah. Should we be loosey goosey with our thoughts and words to others, to ourselves? Is it act once in a while? Is it, you know, is it obsession? Like how important are thoughts, words and actions and manifesting our dreams?

[Billy Carson]

So what's important is understanding the power of the thoughts and the words. Because when you really understand cymatic frequencies, which are the vibrations created by sound, through science we've discovered that those cymatics which have then consciousness piggybacked on them have the ability to change reality. You know Dr. Masuru Emoto, the former scientist that created that water experiment, when he put water in jars and people would speak to the water, I love you, I hate you. And then you test it under a microscope. You see that I hate you didn't form into a nice crystal, but I love you did form into a nice crystal. So it let us know that conscious thought and cymatic that come out of your throat, you literally have a double edged sword in your mouth. Like it says in the biblical text, you can alter realities. And so when people talk to me and they find out about these trips that I go on, all these crazy places that I go visit and take tours to, they go, one day I might be able to go, oh, I hope I can go. Man, I wish I could go. I don't have any money right now, I'm broke. But maybe one day I'll never be able to make it. They just cancel that reality from their future. They took that potential opportunity, a potential outcome, that superposition in quantum physics and they collapsed it and they moved it out of the way. And yes, it will never happen if they keep that same mindset and they keep speaking those same words because they've just collapsed it. They've talked to themselves. Their subconscious now believes what they said. Their cells took in that vibration and that frequency and they've celebrated to that negative frequency. That means this is never going to happen and they've accepted it. So they're going to do everything within their power to keep you in that particular frame where that never occurs or never comes into your timeline. But when you begin to realize these mistakes of mistalking and talking bad about yourself and not understanding that you're speaking your existence into reality, then you change your speech. And when you change your speech, you instantly start creating new connections in the brain. Your DNA begins to rewrite itself and your cells begin to celebrate on the right frequency. And now you begin to bring these things into your reality.

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[Lewis Howes]

What are the words we should never say about ourselves?

[Billy Carson]

I suck, I hate myself. I'm no good, I'm not good at this. Instead of saying things like that, I'm not good at this, or I suck, or I'm horrible, I'm a bad person, I'm crazy. You know, all these things that we just throw around, like, it's not even a big deal. We don't realize how much we're hurting ourselves. A detriment to ourself and even our body. We have to be, you know, reword ourselves. It's something you're not good at. Don't say, I suck at this. Say, I'm not that great at this. But I'm going to work to become better, you know, like, for example, I came down with pneumonia about now, 10 weeks ago. I mean, like a couple of weeks of recovery left on this, and I actually almost died in Turkey. Wow. Just a few weeks ago, I was in a near death experience in the hospital going to septic shock.

[Lewis Howes]

Really?

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

Holy cow, man.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

We could have rescheduled this.

[Billy Carson]

I rescheduled so much stuff already. I was like, I got to get back out there.

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[Billy Carson]

But the point I'm making is every time somebody talks to me about it, I don't say, man, I'm still sick, man, I'm still suffering with this thing. I say, I'm coming along, I'm getting better. Still suffering a little bit, but I'm working it out. I'm feeling a little bit better. My voice is coming back, my weight's coming back. It's just the Understanding of, as you can see, it's affecting me a little bit, but it's an understanding of like, yeah, I'm getting better and I'm telling my body consistently. And I lost 22 pounds in two weeks. I went down to 200 pounds and now I'm back to 215. So, you know, in that short period of time, I was able to gain back almost more than, you know, the weight that I lost. And I could feel like I can get back to 225 if I really wanted to now. Wow. But again, it's just that belief that I have in myself. I'm back working out, back walking again, exercising, you know, doing my thing. But I could have succumbed to this and told myself, this thing took me over. I almost died. And it's, you know, I don't know. I don't have the energy, the strength to walk. My wife said we got to go for a walk outside. I couldn't walk past three palm trees. That was like maybe 20ft. And so from 20ft to a quarter of a mile to a mile to two miles, all the way to five miles. But pushing and realizing this is going to make me better. I'm going to overcome this instead of succumbing to it. A lot of people, their talk allows them to consciously and subconsciously succumb to situations, the things that they want to bring into their life, to relationships, to finances, to whatever it is. Yeah, they don't understand how powerful their words really are.

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[Billy Carson]

Correct.

[Lewis Howes]

I suck. I'm horrible. I'm not good enough. I'm not worthy. I'm a horrible person. Person. Like yeah, I don't even want to say that and just put it out there.

[Billy Carson]

But as an example where you're saying.

[Lewis Howes]

It, well, it's, it's. The sad thing is I used to say that to myself all the time as a kid.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, I was.

[Lewis Howes]

I'm guilty of myself to others about me for like I don't know, the first 20 years of my life. Yeah, maybe More consistently in times than others. And so I feel bad for the younger version of me that I treated myself that way. And I was blocking peace, freedom, opportunities, and I still was, quote, unquote, successful in accomplishing a lot. And I'm always like, man, I wonder what I could have done had I been kinder to myself, had I spoken differently about me and had I viewed myself differently. And I think people get mixed up in thinking, well, I want to make sure I'm humble, and I don't want to speak like I have this God or I have this big ego or something like that, or I'm untouchable. And so it's figuring out a balance of how to communicate with self in a loving, compassionate way without being like, I'm the best in the world and no one's better than me or whatever it is.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

There's a fine line to it.

[Billy Carson]

There's a fine line. There's a. There's a. There's a gray line that you walk there because you always want to have confidence in yourself. The ultimate confidence in yourself. I think the biggest problem that a lot of people have, they don't believe in themselves, right? They really don't believe in themselves. And they're always looking for an outside source to come and fix their problems when they're the one that's going to fix the problem.

[Lewis Howes]

If someone does not believe in themselves, in their dreams coming true, what is going to happen?

[Billy Carson]

Well, they're going to go to this frequency where they're going to begin to attract everything on that same frequency. So everything that becomes a situation, that becomes another situation. They're going to have a problem for every solution, right? And it's just going to feel like they're going down this deep, dark hole and they can't climb back out when they have to realize the first thing they have to do, number one, is they have to learn how to forgive themselves. This is the biggest reason why people don't believe in themselves. Because they feel like they've done things that happen in the past and they could have did this way, they could have went that way. This was wrong. That was wrong. Whatever. Whatever it was, to go into the mirror and look at yourself and talk to yourself. A lot of people can't. Aren't comfortable with themselves.

[Lewis Howes]

So true, man.

[Billy Carson]

And to say, man, you screwed up. But guess what? I forgive you. I forgive you. And I bring love, I bring peace, I bring joy. Now let's analyze why we did this. Let's analyze what's behind this screw Up. Okay. All right. We understand now. Now let's learn from this. What can we gain? What knowledge can we gain from this situation? And how can we not ever repeat this again? Now you've just been born again in the spirit now. You've just grown consciously, and you can look back on your previous self and see you were here, but now you're here.

[Lewis Howes]

Gosh, a perfect example. You know, it was a year and a half ago, I did this exact exercise, and my fiance, Martha, she told me to do it.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

And I was kind of like, this is kind of silly or whatever, but I actually. I was in so much pain for three months. I had. When I was 16, I had eight teeth removed.

[Billy Carson]

Oh, wow.

[Lewis Howes]

Four here, then four wisdom. So four wisdom. But then four others. Because when I was a teenager, my teeth were kind of crowded or whatever, and that was what they did back then. They removed all your teeth. And you were supposed to have. I didn't get braces afterwards. I was supposed to.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

And so my jaw kind of grew in and collapsed where my back teeth never touched. They still barely touch today.

[Billy Carson]

Wow.

[Lewis Howes]

And So I waited 20 years until I got. I put those four teeth back in. With implants.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

And I had to do bone grafts. And it was just a. It was a painful process. And one of the implants ejected.

[Billy Carson]

Oh, no.

[Lewis Howes]

After a month. So it was in my bone.

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It just wasn't healing.

[Lewis Howes]

And it came out one night.

[Billy Carson]

God.

[Lewis Howes]

So they had to do it again.

[Billy Carson]

Oh, man.

[Lewis Howes]

Six months later, all this stuff, right. And my head was throbbing for months. Was on, like, medicine, which I never take medicine, but it was in so.

[Billy Carson]

Much pain, I had to take it. That's too much.

[Lewis Howes]

I had to. It was, like, throbbing constantly right here. And after months, she goes, you need to look in the mirror and you need to forgive yourself. You need to forgive yourself for what you did to yourself 20 years ago. You need to forgive yourself for doing this now, even though it's bettering you. But you need to love and accept yourself for what you've been through and forgive. And she was like, I want you to walk into the bathroom right now and don't come out until you follow the entire process that you just said, wow. And I. And I kid you not, I cannot make this up. I was in throbbing pain for months. Within moments after having this conversation, the pain was gone. I get chills just saying it because I was just like. I don't know many people. It's very vulnerable to look yourself in the eyes in the mirror.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

And say, I love you, I forgive you. You matter.

[Billy Carson]

You're enough.

[Lewis Howes]

You're deserving of peace, freedom, health, love. And I forgive you for everything you've done.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

It is so powerful. So I'm glad you said this because I have a personal experience to it that got an instant result. I'm not saying it's going to be instant for everyone, but I felt an instant relief of pain into freedom by forgiving myself, which was the first step that you talked about. So I think a lot of people.

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[Lewis Howes]

They never forgive.

[Billy Carson]

Right.

[Lewis Howes]

And so that's. That's part of your, I guess, formula for. For manifesting what you want or for creating the. The life that you want to create is starting with forgiveness.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

What if you've done horrible things?

[Billy Carson]

Yeah. Well, you just have to still forgive yourself. I mean, you know, horrible if somebody. I'm from the. The 70s, right. I'm a 70s baby, so, you know, falling down and getting a huge gash on my body or something like that and playing for the rest of the day is not even a big deal. And they go drink some water hose and wash it off with a water. Also somebody's house.

[Lewis Howes]

Yeah.

[Billy Carson]

In this day and age of. It happens, a lot of kids, they just can't. They couldn't handle it. They'd panic, you know, the mother would rush into the hospital right away. They got to go get it disinfected and get stitches and injections of tetanus shots and everything. But does that make my trauma less than their trauma? We both receive that trauma, you know, I suppress the trauma, you know, and so that trauma still in my body. When you go and do this, when you do this forgiveness, you know, thing, what happens is you're clearing trauma from your body. You can't really manifest if you're full to the top of trauma. You need space.

[Lewis Howes]

Yes.

[Billy Carson]

And as you begin to address the shadow work within yourself, the space becomes more and more clear. I had to learn this from my wife, Elizabeth. I mean, if we're out her, I wouldn't have even known that I was suffering from a lot of trauma from my childhood, really. Seeing people get murdered in the streets and seeing people get stabbed from getting shot myself and stabbed in my back from trying to protect my house in Miami. You know, just various things that have happened over time. And this just builds up a lot of trauma. Watching my parents argue a lot and a lot of, like, negativity in the house, dysfunctional situations. That trauma was still in my body. Even though I was acting normal and I was suppressing and acting like, oh, man, just whatever. That's just life, you know, it's all good. That's why we grew up. That's how it was back then. But no, that's really inside of me. You have to begin to go and address that trauma, and you have to look at it, which is hard. It's hard to look at it. And when it comes back up, man, it can get you real emotional. But it cleared more space in my body, and it gave me the ability to become even a better manifesto of my reality, to manifest my abundance, to really embrace my talents and my gifts and thrive with them, there was something holding me back. As good as I was doing, there was so much more, and there still is much more. It never ends.

[Lewis Howes]

So on a scientific level, what is our body made of then?

[Billy Carson]

Well, the body primarily is made of about 70% water. And so when you go back to the water, experiment with the somatic frequencies in the conscious thought. Well, what's your body doing? Your body, the water in your body is absorbing your conscious thoughts. See, every thought you think leaves your skull. It doesn't just go and you stay inside this little area. It leaves the skull and leaves the skull in all directions.

[Podcast Host (Ad Reader)]

Really?

[Billy Carson]

Yes.

[Podcast Host (Ad Reader)]

How does it break through the skull, the bone?

[Billy Carson]

It's a wave of light. See, I could put an EEG cap on your head, just sit it right on top of your head, and I can see all your thoughts on a computer. How'd that happen? The thoughts left your skull and went into the little sensors and then got sent to a computer. No surgery needed. So we know that this is leaving our head. Just like radio waves from the I Love Lucy show. 1960s is still traveling through space as waves. If I can decode those waves light years away, I can watch I Love Lucy. It's the same frequency. And your thoughts are all out there. Every thought you've ever sunk from the beginning of your first thought is existing with on this energetic. Really? That's the book of life. That's the Akashic record.

[Lewis Howes]

I had some bad thoughts out there. I had some bad thoughts out there in the past, man.

[Billy Carson]

Well, we all have. Every thoughts are leaving your skull, and it's out here in for eternity in this energetic grid. The thoughts are all there, you see, and so they're leaving your skull. They're penetrating out, but they're also going down, out in through the body. And of course, the words we speak are also creating these frequencies that doesn't matter. What language it is. The cells understand that frequency.

[Lewis Howes]

So is it the cell? Because they're just sounds. Right. And it's like in a different language, a swear word might be a loving word.

[Billy Carson]

Yes.

[Lewis Howes]

You know, in a different language, it's the intention. So is it the intention and the awareness of the meaning?

[Billy Carson]

Exactly.

[Lewis Howes]

It's like the awareness we give the sound and how it feels and resonates within us.

[Billy Carson]

That's it. The conscious thought is piggybacked on the cymatic frequency. So it doesn't matter what you're speaking, it's the intention of that word. The water now takes on that water in the body. It takes that information and it processes it and it understands negative or positive. And now you begin to get sick on the inside of us. Too much negativity. We know that what happens with doctors will tell you, if you go to your doctor, oh, man, your stress is giving you an ulcer. This stress is giving you cancer. If you have an autoimmune problem, you get stressed out. It brings the autoimmune response out in your body. So we know that the body is responding to exterior, you know, influence, or.

[Lewis Howes]

In how we interpret exterior Influence.

[Billy Carson]

Exactly how you interpret the exterior.

[Lewis Howes]

Because every event is just kind of neutral if you look at it. I mean, we may. We make it a horrible or positive event.

[Billy Carson]

Correct.

[Lewis Howes]

Like we interpret, oh, someone's dying, or someone got shot by someone intentionally, that we make it a horrible event. And I'm not discounting that.

[Billy Carson]

I understand.

[Lewis Howes]

But how we resonate with that energetically, we're feeling that.

[Billy Carson]

Right.

[Lewis Howes]

And I think it's. It's totally fine to feel compassionate and something is wrong based on our society and all these different things. I'm not condoning someone being murdered, but it's like we interpret the event as being a positive or negative or neutral. And it's our interpretation, if we ruminate on that interpretation for long enough and we don't clear that energy.

[Billy Carson]

Yes.

[Lewis Howes]

Then it will make us sicker or make us more loving.

[Billy Carson]

Exactly.

[Lewis Howes]

Ruminate on a positive experience. Experience. We're going to feel more abundant, more. More loving.

[Billy Carson]

Absolutely.

[Lewis Howes]

It's the rumination of the meaning that we give the event.

[Billy Carson]

Right. That's facts.

[Lewis Howes]

So if you have experienced traumas in your life and you either block them, stuff them, don't bring them up, whatever it might be, they're still in your body, is what I'm hearing you say.

[Billy Carson]

Yes. They're still in your body.

[Lewis Howes]

Even if you're like, well, I'm just gonna go learn more and succeed more and make money and whatever it might be that hasn't left your body.

[Billy Carson]

Right.

[Lewis Howes]

When does it start to leave your body? Is that when you start to forgive yourself?

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, when you start to. That's why I say the first thing, like, if somebody can follow this process and the first thing is forgive themselves, that starts the clearing process. That starts the body to get into alignment with this healing process. Right. And then from there to begin to speak positive affirmations about yourself every single day. If you can write down positive affirmations, at least, you know, maybe nine. There's one particular exercise where you have down nine positive affirmations and you speak them out loud six times a day for 21 days. Scientists have proved in an actual laboratory setting that the DNA in the human body and people can look this up begins to rewrite itself.

[Lewis Howes]

Come on.

[Billy Carson]

Yes, that's real.

[Lewis Howes]

Wow.

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Absolute, real. And this is something anybody could look up. I gotta find this. Here we go. Science.

[Lewis Howes]

I gotta find this.

[Billy Carson]

Yes, speaking. Positive reformation is 21 days. Your DNA begins to actually rewrite itself. So now you are the. The creator of your own destiny. You are rewriting the DNA inside of your own body. Now, what is DNA? DNA is a storage medium. It stores information.

[Podcast Host (Ad Reader)]

Data.

[Billy Carson]

Yes, data. You know, George Church, a scientist, took one gram of DNA, which is just a drop, and he said, I wonder if this can store information in the volume. So he took his. His ebook, and he actually took his ebook and he converted from zeros and ones into A, C's, T's, and G's and downloaded it directly onto the DNA. Come on. Yes.

[Lewis Howes]

What is the DNA? Like a cell or a drop of blood or. What is that?

[Billy Carson]

What is like DNA is the. You know, it's just the DNA of the human body he was able to take. No, no, it's not a cell smaller than a cell. It's inside. It's what creates the cells and everything. It creates everything in the human body. It's the. It's the smallest thing that, you know, one of the smallest things that exists to make up the human form.

[Lewis Howes]

And he downloaded his ebook.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, into that little drop. And then he replicated it 80 billion times. Yeah, I'm dead serious. And this is a book with multimedia in it, too. It's not just a regular standard. And then he. Listen. Then he changed it from ACS Ts and GS back into zeros and ones and uploaded it back to the server again. So they were possible. Yeah. So now. But listen, what Microsoft did, Microsoft is heavily involved in. So they went and formed and created the very first DNA hard drive where you have molecular and you have hard tech working together to create storage capacity. One gram, one drop can store 433 petabytes of data.

[Lewis Howes]

I don't know what that means.

[Billy Carson]

Well, a petabyte is a thousand terabytes. Wow. Okay. And they discovered that the human body can store about 13.5 billion years of data, which is roughly around the time they believe the universe even exists. So all the secrets and mysteries of the known universe are hidden inside of our body.

[Lewis Howes]

That is crazy.

[Billy Carson]

And that says in the myth of Adapa, there's an ancient text called the myth of Adapa where it says just that exact same thing, which is just crazy. The correlation between the two modern science and the ancient text. The ancients knew what we're just finding out.

[Lewis Howes]

What is the positive affirmation that you say to yourself daily?

[Billy Carson]

I am the architect of my life. That's number one. I want to know that I'm the architect. I'm creating my reality. I'm, you know, good or bad, I'm the one that's directing it, right? I'm the architect. And I will say that, you know, I'm worthy. I want to understand and feel worthiness. Because the way that I grew up and the people I grew up around didn't really feel worthy of anything. They felt like they were just trying to survive on a daily basis. Can we make it through this day? Can we make it through that day? No. I'm worthy of abundance. So I'm worthy of abundance, right? I'm worthy of great relationships. I'm worthy of great family. I'm worthy of happiness. I want to be happy. I don't want to be sad. I don't want to be stressed out. I want happiness in my life. Especially when I get to my age now I'm 53. Right. I just want to be happy, man. I just want peace.

[Lewis Howes]

Peace.

[Billy Carson]

Look, man, you know what I'm saying? I don't want no drama. I don't want stress. It's still going to come, but overall the balance is there where I have more peace than stress, which is where I want to be. And I'm manifesting that on a daily basis.

[Lewis Howes]

When did that shift for you to going from survival mode internally and like probably every day thinking, how do I Just survive. Whether you were thinking, thinking that or just being it. Yeah, survival mode from either trauma or a literal we don't have money, we need to figure out how to survive. When did that shift for you in saying this? Survival mode way of thinking and being isn't serving me of creating abundance anymore. Because a lot of people watching or listening might feel like I'm stuck or in survival mode. In some area of my life, in my relationship, I'm in survival mode. Every day it's up and down, right? My career, my boss is crazy. Every day it's something down. My business, it's every day. I don't know if I'm going to bring in a client or not. My health, it's a yo yo diet. Every time I'm in survival mode. How does someone like, when did you learn to get out of survival mode in order to create abundance? And what does the process look like for someone watching or listening to shift and make a different intention moving forward that no longer you're going to be in survival mode?

[Billy Carson]

Gotcha. For me, honestly, I was so fortunate. It started when I was very young, 1978, down in Miami, Florida. I sold those toys. And I never forget this. When I got done selling my toys door to door, I said to myself out loud, I spoke this, I said, it's me that's going to save me. I just realized it at that moment.

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At eight years old.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, at eight years old, I realized like, wow, it's me. And I, I went in the house that day and I was standing out looking out the little window and my mom came over and said, what's wrong, son? I said, I don't belong here and I'm getting out.

[Lewis Howes]

Really?

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, Come on. I'm dead serious. I knew it. I just said to myself, I don't belong here. I had experienced something that I realized, something magical for me. You know, back then, you gotta remember I didn't have a lot of distractions. No tv, no cable tv didn't even exist yet. None of these things. And I was just like this there realizing like, if I have an idea and I, and I act on an idea, I can get a result. Something can happen, positive for me. And this is what happened. I got money in my hand, I took a picture with the money man with a Polaroid camera and you know, and I was like, this is crazy. And so from that moment I knew, I said to myself, I'm going to get out of here. I had hope up to that moment. I really didn't have a lot of hope. But at that moment, I realized I had hope. It wasn't instantaneous, but I knew that these things would happen. And so not too. Not many years Later, I was 12. My dad called me in the room and he said, son, from this point forward, I'm not going to buy you any more school clothes, any more school supplies, and you got to pay 100 bucks a month rent at 12. 12 years old. Oh, my gosh, at 12 years old. And I was like, well, I only got two pair of pants anyway. And my shoes have holes in them. I had holes in my socks. I would put cardboard in my shoe to keep my feet from touching the street. I hardly ever wear open toes till this day because my toes were jammed up in these shoes so much, man, I damaged my feet. So you'll hardly rarely see me in any kind of open toe shoe. But the point being is that we were already struggling. So to me, it was like, okay, well, what I got to do? He said, well, here's the Miami news, and in there, there were a ad section, and they were tiring. 12 to 16 year olds excel the newspaper subscriptions, not the paper delivery, but to sell the subscription. So I had experience in this already. They drop you off in a neighborhood until you go square the block. That means go door to door until you get back to this corner. I had already done that selling my toys. I got a little training in. Right?

[Lewis Howes]

Yeah.

[Billy Carson]

So I was doing that. I became the number one salesperson. My friends were blowing their little $150 checks, you know, every couple weeks. And I was saving my money. And I only bought one thing, a digital calculator watch from. From Kmart. And it had the little black, you know, readout. And my friend said, you know, what do you. Why'd you buy that watch? He said, because this is the future. I said, matter of fact, we were sitting in his dad's car. I said, this. This analog radio is going to change. These numbers are going to be on that screen one day. And he laughed at me. A week later, I went to the grocery store and there was a magazine called Opportunity magazine, which is still in business today. And I opened it up. And the page I opened it up to was, was Galaxy Electronics out of New York City, still in business, and they were selling wholesale digital car stereos. I had the money, so I again, the. The saving, the seeing the future. I'm going to need this for something, because I haven't. I can't blow this on trash. I invested that money into those radios.

[Lewis Howes]

Wow.

[Billy Carson]

Back then it was cod, if you remember. Cash on delivery. I called up the company, I ordered the radios. The guy said, you sound kind of young. I said, I just. I just have a cold. Nothing to lose because he's sending me cod. UPS man takes the money, he closes in a little tight packet. He gives. Gives me my radios. I sell the radios to upperclassmen in school. Word gets out, I start selling radios like you wouldn't believe. Now I've got people coming from the Tri county area to buy radios from me at my house. I keep reinvesting back into the business. By the time I was 13, I was making more than my parents.

[Podcast Host (Ad Reader)]

Wow.

[Billy Carson]

So I'm maximizing now, right now. I found a guy at the GBT Audio who lived on my same street. Hired him as the installer because he was. They. They weren't treating him good. I said, come work for me, man. You have a lot more freedom. He's installing at my house now. I'm installing right in front of my house. I'm selling them and installing them. Nobody could beat my prices because I have no overhead.

[Lewis Howes]

Right, right, right.

[Billy Carson]

Just what I'm reinvesting, but understanding, like, I'm creating this. And I think for a lot of people that begin to get stuck and feel like they just can't get over the hump in anything that they're doing, they have to look at one thing themselves in the mirror. We keep looking for this thing that's going to come and rescue us one day. My boss is going to recognize my worth and give me this big raise. No, maybe you need to recognize your worth and start investing your spare time and some of your extra money that you've been blowing on things you don't need into building something on the side so you can generate a revenue and some income, some passive income for yourself and eventually surpass when the boss has given you. And then spread, break out and start your own company and build something big for yourself and be proud of yourself. You're going to work a lot of hours, put a lot of time and have a lot of stress, but it's yours. Okay? And you're not going to fire yourself and you're going to be able to take care of yourself better. If you said a relationship situation. I was in very many bad relationships over the years. Started to realize that a giver and a taker, when they meet, they get into a relationship.

[Lewis Howes]

So I have a giver in every relationship.

[Billy Carson]

Me too.

[Lewis Howes]

It sucked the life out of me.

[Billy Carson]

I listen. It destroyed me almost. It almost took me out and I had to come to terms that it's me that's creating these relationships by getting into relationships and getting on the frequency of what does not serve me. And when I realized that, I said, oh my God, it's me that's creating and putting myself in these situations. It's not them. Forget being mad at the ex. It's me that's doing this to me. So what I do, I went out, started meditating on finding a giver, and I ended up finding a giver. Me too.

[Lewis Howes]

Oh, man, it's the greatest gift in the world. It's so much when there's two givers together, it's like exponential.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, it's. So you're not drained. When I met my giver, which is my wife Elizabeth, the company went from here and just exploded because the, the frequency, the energy, her knowledge, my knowledge, we're building together, we're on. You know, everything is just, just synchronous and just working out for the best good of both of us. Instead of one trying to drain one and hold one back and being jealous and envious of one. Both were on the same frequency.

[Lewis Howes]

I know that world, man.

[Billy Carson]

You know, that was tough, bro. It was tough.

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[Lewis Howes]

So I the the the affirmation that you Say to yourself is, I'm worthy of abundance, I'm worthy of love, of happiness, of a healthy relationship. And I am the creator of my destiny, essentially. I think that's what you said.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, I'm the architect of my life.

[Lewis Howes]

I'm the architect of my life.

[Billy Carson]

I feel this foundation and filled it. I, I, I, I found it. I build this foundation and I fuel its power.

[Lewis Howes]

So these are the affirmations that you say. How much of your success is related to the principle of affirmations, would you say?

[Billy Carson]

I would say the majority of it really. Because just speaking it into exist, speaking it because I feel like I'm commanding realities. I feel like the same spark that created everything in the known universe from the divine, from God, whatever you want to call it is in every single atom in my body. And if I'm a fractal of that God consciousness, then I also have a certain amount of power over this realm and to not relinquish my power to outside sources to understand and accept that power and walk in that power. So I command my prayer when I pray. I command realities into existence. When I get on an airplane. I don't hope and beg and wish that my plane makes it to its destination. I say, I commanded my plane takes off safely and I commanded this plane to land safely. And I envisioned a path that the flight path in my head. And that's the end of the prayer. There is nothing else to say because I believe in the end before the end, you see, and so little things like that. So I'm always working on how do I command my power, the power, the divine power that's been given and granted to me, my birthright. And I experiment with it all the time.

[Lewis Howes]

I love this and I believe in this because I do this as well. But I can already see people are watching and listening, saying, okay, I'm going to command that I make a million dollars in the next month. Because I see this reality and I'm going to take the actions and. But it's not happening. I've been commanding it for years and these things aren't happening. I'm still stuck. So how can you command the reality you want to manifest while also not being attached if it doesn't happen and the timeline that you want?

[Billy Carson]

Well, there's two things with that. The first thing is preparation. So you have to find out what your passion is. Number one, a lot of people are trying to manifest money in areas where they don't, they're not even passionate about. If you're not passionate about being a podcaster and you're trying to make, you know, become a millionaire for being a podcaster. It's not going to happen. Right. And a lot of people are working outside of their passion or it might.

[Lewis Howes]

Happen, and then you sabotage it, or you're on the lt, you're not happy with it or something bad.

[Billy Carson]

It's just so bad. It's so. You don't even want to go to work.

[Lewis Howes]

Yeah.

[Billy Carson]

Even though it could be making money. I know people like that as well. You could be. They're making money, but they're not happy. They're always complaining to me. And one of them was a billionaire. Wow. But he's so sick on the inside. He's always got health issues. But find your passion. Number one, what are you passionate about? And if you don't know, write down everything that you like to do, everything you think you'd like to do, things you're interested in on a piece of paper, then flip that paper over and begin to organize those in order of preference. And then if it's something that you think should be at the top but you're not good at, go learn how to do that. And learn how to do it very, very well. Yes. Then you're going to find a need for that passion in the world. Because the secret to making money is to find a need and fill it. So you find a need for that passion. Who needs that passion? What company? What person is that product or service or whatever it is you're providing? When you find that, you exchange energy with them. And then money becomes a side effect. So you never chase the money. Don't focus on making millions. Don't focus on making $20 million. Focus on living within your passion and providing that passion to the world. And the money will show up. It's just an instrument which is a side effect of your energy exchange.

[Lewis Howes]

100% and being of service add value.

[Billy Carson]

Right.

[Lewis Howes]

This is something I wanted to follow up with on the previous question.

[Billy Carson]

Around.

[Lewis Howes]

Well, I'm not sure where this. Where this ties in, but there was. This came to me and I wanted to mention it, actually. I do know your.

[Billy Carson]

Your.

[Lewis Howes]

Your affirmation of I'm the creator. What is it again?

[Billy Carson]

The architect of my.

[Lewis Howes]

I'm the architect.

[Billy Carson]

Right. My life. Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

And you were mentioning before that how I'm not a victim in needing other people to provide for me.

[Billy Carson]

Right.

[Lewis Howes]

Or needing other people to save me or rescue me. It's more, I'm the architect.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

This is probably going to piss off a lot of people. Because I don't watch news, but I do see people sending me clips of content here and there. And I know what's happening in the world.

[Billy Carson]

Right.

[Lewis Howes]

There's seems to be in the last, you know, five years, a heightened race war.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

A heightened gender war and a political war.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

Where it's someone or someone's or groups have more power than others, have more rights than others. And I'm not here to justify who has what or whatnot, but there always seems to be groups of people that say, you're not giving me what I want or what I deserve or what I need and it's your fault and you need to give me these rights or this type of understanding or this type of benefits, whatever it might be. What happens for people that come from that space? Is there power in that? Race war, political war, gender war, whatever it might be, if someone's coming from that space?

[Billy Carson]

Yeah. You mean in terms of the people who are, are complaining about the situation or the people that are putting their boot on the neck?

[Lewis Howes]

People that are complaining about the situation.

[Billy Carson]

Right. The complainers.

[Lewis Howes]

Or saying like I'm a victim to this situation, whatever it might be.

[Billy Carson]

Right. What can I do?

[Lewis Howes]

Yes.

[Billy Carson]

Right.

[Lewis Howes]

And it's. And you need to change to give me more of this.

[Billy Carson]

Right, right.

[Lewis Howes]

You need to change for me. Yeah. To have more to, to be accepted more, to be whatever, have more rights, whatever.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, right, right. You know, coming from where I came from, it's so hard for me to, to, to say or make a hard statement that every single person can't find some level of solace or success within where they are, no matter where they live on the planet. I understand that there's wars going on. You can't stop somebody else from shooting a bomb on and blowing up your whole apartment building. Things like that happen. And it's very sad, unfortunate, but at the same time you have to always learn how to make the most of every situation that you're dealt with. Right. So it's learning how to. Maybe they're not living in, you know, a nice clean condo overlooking a lake in the backyard, but they've got now solid roof over their head. They found a way to navigate the system. They made the right collaborations and connections within their little small, you know, war drawn community to be able to provide some level of, at least some level of security and safety for themselves. They have food to eat, they have water to drink, you know, things like that. There's different levels of abundance. And I try to tell people all the time when you, when I say, I want to manifest abundance, or abundance is your birthright. Everyone's not going to be a billionaire, right? It's just not going to happen. But are your daily needs met? You know, are you succumbing to the situation? And some people off themselves, you know, whatever you want to call it. Some people sell their. In some of these other countries, they sell their kids. I mean, all these things because they feel I just can't handle the situation. Or are you a fighter? Are you in here to really go to battle on the spiritual realm and take claim of what's really yours and find a way, no matter what, to make it work? And I know for some people that may be suffering, that sounds like, oh, man, this guy doesn't know what we're going through. He doesn't understand. Well, maybe I don't particularly know exactly what you are going through, but what I do see from where I came from, I go back to those old neighborhoods sometimes just to ride through and just experience what happened so I can remember, never get back to this.

[Lewis Howes]

Right?

[Billy Carson]

And so many of them people are gone and they're in caskets, they're in prison. A few of them are shot. You know, they're. They got bullet wounds. A couple of my friends are paralyzed for life. You know, all these things and you're looking around like, and they're still there. I have relatives still in that same exact neighborhood. And I'm going, why are you here? We can't, we can't, you know, we can't get out. There's nothing we can do. There's this. It's this mindset of acceptance of the current situation versus a mindset of how can I figure out a way to become better for myself, my family, and to try to even navigate the situation, Maybe even try to find a way to escape or get out of the situation.

[Lewis Howes]

Yes.

[Billy Carson]

You know, when we talk about things like, for example, you know, in slavery times, I feel like I'm the slave that I don't want to call it safe. I'm the free man that never got on the boat because I'm going to die trying. I'm not the one that jumped off in the ocean. I'm not the one that came here and got in situations. I'm the one that never got on the boat. And sometimes you just have to be the person that breaks that matrix to that reprograms and just finds a way, no matter what, whether it means you get reincarnated to the next level or not. That's just my mindset but I think a lot of people, they just succumb to the situation and they lose hope.

[Lewis Howes]

Yeah. And there's, I mean, I guess there's a price you pay for any decision you make.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, right.

[Lewis Howes]

Like there's a, there's a consequence and there's a benefit to any decision you might.

[Billy Carson]

Principle of cause and effect. Every, every decision you make is going to have a consequence, whether it's a good consequence or a bad consequence. But there will be a consequence.

[Lewis Howes]

100%.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

So we've got these. I'm just kind of walking through these steps right now. Forgive yourself, speak positive affirmations and, and really own that you are the architect of. Architect of your life. Is there any other steps that you would add to this to, you know, having a formula for manifestation?

[Billy Carson]

Well, the next step is, you know, you, you've got to have the conscious thought of what you want to manifest and you have to be very specific. A lot of people are very ambiguous with what they want to bring into their reality. Like, a guy came to me one time and he said he wanted to, you know, he needed a new car. And I said, well, what kind of car do you want? Oh, something around 20, 25,000. That's not a new. You tell me nothing. And so if you're telling me nothing, you tell the universe absolutely nothing. Right? So I said, you need to go, go to a car dealer, test drive the car. Find one within your budget, find one you like, learn the color to make the model, the, you know, the wheels, are they alloy, are they steel, what kind of exhaust, you know, what kind of stereo system does it have? Does it connect to aux or does it have Bluetooth? You need, you need to know all these things. Is it pleather leather, right? Is it, you know, whatever it is, understand and know this car as if it's yours, ready? Because it is yours. I said, the next thing you do is you're going to meditate on this car. You're not going to meditate if you're trying to get the car. You're going to meditate as if you own the car. So in this meditation, you're actually driving the car. You feel the keys in your hands, you put them in the ignition. You turn the ignition on. If there's a start button, you push that button, you drive it to your friend's house, you drive it to your family's house within the meditation and you show off your brand new car to them. Hey, look, you want to go for a ride around the block of my new car, you pull up back to your house or your apartment, wherever you live, and you get out of the car, you lock it and you go in the house and you look out of the window and look back at the car because it's your car. And then what's going to happen is the universe is going to start to collaborate with you. Opportunities are going to begin to present themselves to give you the opportunity to get the money that you need to come down with the down payment, to make the payment on the car and everything else. But you have to see those opportunities because windows open and doors open, but they also close. And the biggest part about not manifesting or losing the manifest manifestation opportunity is not recognizing the things that will lead to the end result. Just kind of waiting for the end result to appear magically. No. There's steps to take. There's are the goals to set action, steps to take. Recognition of collaboration opportunities, Recognition of someone who's going to lead you to this person that will lead you to this goal to get you to what you need to put down this car. So it's just now this awareness takes place as you flow and vibe with the universe. And then before you know it, that car is in your driveway.

[Lewis Howes]

Wow.

[Billy Carson]

And I've got so many dozens of people that have contacted me through my manifestation workshops that I've done. And they send me the pictures of their cars and their houses and everything else that they've been able to manifest. And not just material things. Sending me pictures of you smiling and having a great time with the family. Having a good time, stress free life. Right. Going places, traveling, doing, living your dreams.

[Lewis Howes]

Yes.

[Billy Carson]

Not just, you know, material things.

[Lewis Howes]

Yeah. And I think a lot of people think about abundance in the external world, but they'll, they don't work on the abundance in the inner world.

[Billy Carson]

Yes.

[Lewis Howes]

In which everything is the inner game.

[Billy Carson]

Yes.

[Lewis Howes]

This world is about mastering the inner world first. And the more that we master it, and I don't know if we ever fully master the inner world that has 13.5 billion bits of information in the history of the world. I mean, it's like so much to master. But the more we can understand again, be on a healing journey of our past, at least accepting and forgiving those things. Right. To clear space energetically throughout our body and our mind's consciousness. Right. The more we can start reprogramming ourselves to speak positively, whether it be affirmations or just conscious words into the world, the more we can have powerful intentions with our actions, to being consistent with those actions to get us out of the place where we feel stuck or trapped into a new field of possibility. And visualizing this end result that you talk about, meditating on it consistently. This entire journey together of working on the inner world and seeing what we want to come to reality. I feel like that's when you collapse time and you manifest faster. But if you're just thinking, I need more, I want more, you know, I only working external as opposed to internal.

[Billy Carson]

Right?

[Lewis Howes]

It's going to be stressful, it's going to be harder, it's going to take longer, you might still get it, it's just going to take more time.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, you're not going in the flow. You know, like that famous scene in Doctor Strange where the master, she says, you can't beat a river into submission. You have to take its energy and flow as its own. So you've had to go with the flow of the river. You know, kind of a break of the quote there, but it's similar. But what she's saying is, you know, you can't beat it into submission. And this, this universe is a flow, an energetic flow. And you just got to get on the same frequency of what you're trying to attract. When you begin to realize you are bringing everything towards you. You're collapsing realities into existence versus chasing things. It becomes so much easier when someone.

[Lewis Howes]

Has a mindset of I'm chasing after my goal versus attracting it. What happens?

[Billy Carson]

Well, what happens is you find that there's so many other, so many more obstacles that appear or pop up, things that hinder you. Also, so many more distractions arise when you realize that you're here to attract the goal, attract those benchmarks, attract those that happiness into your life. You then take a journey to inner space. And when you're working within yourself, you're clearing space, you're doing shadow work, you're doing forgiveness, you're speaking affirmations, you're, you're, you know, you're, you're writing things down, you're preparing, you're planning. It's all in here. Everything happens here first. Nothing manifests on the outside without conscious thoughts. So if, for example, just this table, right, somebody thought about, I'd like to be nice to have a round table so people can have a discussion and sit and cross from each other and talk. So this person saw this table in his multi dimensional platform, he then collapsed it from multiple dimensions into two dimensions by drawing it on a piece of paper or putting it into a computer. Computer. Computer assisted design. It's still 2D even though it looks 3D from there, once he gets it exactly like he wants it, he sends that instruction on that blueprint, that architecture, right over to an engineer who then manifested it to three dimensional reality that can move around on the XYZ axis. And now we have this table here. But what we're doing when we're looking at this table and sitting at it, we're looking at a multidimensional thought that existed in someone's mind.

[Lewis Howes]

Isn't that powerful?

[Billy Carson]

That's powerful. And we all have that power. So when people say, I don't know what this guy's talking about, manifesting reality. Well, there would be nothing here. This jacket, this table. Right. Your watch, your bracelet, nothing would exist. This chair we're sitting in wouldn't even be here. Because these are all things that are manifested from conscious thought. So we're creating reality every single day and we don't even realize it. We're taking it for granted.

[Lewis Howes]

It's amazing.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, that's powerful.

[Lewis Howes]

Amazing. Is there any other elements to this process that you would add?

[Billy Carson]

I would just add follow through. You know, you gotta follow through. Sometimes people are trying to get a little tired towards the end and they're like, well, it didn't happen this last four or five weeks. I'm gonna stop saying my affirmations. Just keep going, man. Just keep, stay in the system. Keep working on yourself, keep. And keep, keep the positive affirmations going. Keep being of service to others, you know, keep being the light of the world. Keep working on yourself and keep taking action steps towards your goal.

[Lewis Howes]

And I would say, you know, just to add to that and maybe that maybe it's the last thing, and you probably already have this in your process as well, is when you receive, really express gratitude. Oh, it is so important when, when you get a baby, step in progress.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

I'm so grateful for this process and the progress that I'm making every single day. Even though it doesn't feel like a lot. I know it's so much than where I once was.

[Billy Carson]

Absolutely.

[Lewis Howes]

And being grateful for how far you're coming.

[Billy Carson]

Yes.

[Lewis Howes]

It's never going to feel like it's happening fast enough.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

It's never always been. I wish that could happen faster. Right. And I think you're just resisting the flow. Like you said, when you're ungrateful for the growth.

[Billy Carson]

Yes. Because the growth is there.

[Lewis Howes]

And even a setback is growth. If you're taking consistent action, you might have to break certain patterns and you might have to like, disconnect with certain people or leave a job or you might lose money or opportunities at first to then move forward. And it might feel like, oh, this is even harder now.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

But know that if you're taking the actions, that setback might be the ultimate growth that you needed.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

And so when you gain, you're consistent with your word on a daily basis and you, you are your word consistently with what your actions are going to be, and you do it, you follow through. Like you said, receive the gratitude. Receive the, the fruits of the consistent.

[Billy Carson]

Yes.

[Lewis Howes]

You've been doing on a daily basis. If you're like, I'm wanting to write a book and I'm writing one page a day, okay, receive that. I took action. I did this step today and received that gratitude.

[Billy Carson]

Absolute gratitude is so important. I did a whole series of gratitude, which actually was on Amazon prime before. And, you know, a lot of people will say, you know, thank you, but did you feel that thank you. Did you really emote and feel the energy of that gratitude within the thank you? Somebody could hand me a cup, you know, a bottle of water, and I said, oh, thanks, man. You know, but did I really feel that thanks? Did I really get the gratitude out, the emotion? So I started trying to connect with thank you, connect with thanking myself, connect with the agreement that I've achieved something in my life and accepting that gratitude, but really feeling, allow myself to feel the emotion of that gratitude because that's where the real power is at, man.

[Lewis Howes]

That's good, man. I love this a lot. This stuff, this stuff is powerful for me.

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[Lewis Howes]

To ask you about time. What is time and is it an illusion?

[Billy Carson]

Time is actually an illusion. Now we have the arrow of time here in the third dimension because we needed to navigate through this realm. Without it, we'd be completely lost. I would never have been able to rendezvous with you right here to have this podcast on this particular timeline, but multiple timelines exist. So we somehow, in this particular frequency that we're in, we've collapsed this particular timeline. But according to quantum physics, there are unlimited timelines, really. Timelines where you and I aren't even sitting here. You're doing something and I'm doing something. Right. We're doing something totally different in this moment, in this exact moment. Timelines where we never met in the, you know, through our entire lives. Timelines where we could have been next door neighbors. I mean, anything you can conceive in the mind actually happened.

[Lewis Howes]

Really.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the superposition and probability of the universe.

[Lewis Howes]

How does it actually happen? How did it already happen, though?

[Billy Carson]

Well, there's so many multiple times, unlimited timelines. And so it's this. In, in science, I discovered that every potential outcome actually happens, which is wild.

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How does it happen?

[Lewis Howes]

How do they. How does science discover that or claim.

[Billy Carson]

That to be in the quantum world? When they look into the quantum world, the subatomic, when you go down to the tiniest, tiniest area around that we can get access to and start learning, we realize this incredible superposition that exists where waves of. Everything that exists in the universe is a wave. Your house exists as a wave of potentials. You're not there, you're not looking at it. It's not a solid structure, it's a wave. If somebody else is looking at it, it collapses into the structure. Now why. Why does it collapse into the same structure that you know? Well, the atoms were stacked like Lego blocks to build what we call your house. And they're on a resonant frequency. So no matter who looks at it, that consciousness collapses it back into the same structure. But when you're not looking at it, it doesn't exist. We found that through science, specifically due to work of professor sylvester James Gates. Jr. From the University of Maryland, former scientific advisor to President Obama. Him and a team of mathematics geniuses got together and discovered that the the universe is running off of something called Adinkra codes. Dinkra. Adinkra. Adinkra.

[Lewis Howes]

Adinkra codes.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, Adinkra codes. And these Adinkra codes are the exact error correcting codes that run search engines and web browsers? Yes. Wow. So we're living in a creation. We are living inside of a creation. The method of creation, in my opinion is a fractal holographic universe. And that it's running on a particular code. And this code are. Some of these codes are called the Dinkle codes that direct the fabric of space time itself. And this is incredible knowledge to have because it shows you that yes, all the ancients are right. The biblical text, the Quran and all the ancients from thousands of years prior to them were living inside of creation. What is the method is this. Now, time was given to us as a gift to direct us and give us this opportunity to collaborate within our field. But if you travel in the future, right? If you travel into the future, you stay on the same timeline. We know this because people travel to the future every single day. Believe it or not. When you get on an airplane and I'm steady, I'm standing on the ground, and you're traveling in the airplane away from me, you're moving slight microns in the atomic world into the future because of the speed you're moving away from me. People who have traveled to the International Space Station, they've traveled into the future. So we know that in the future, same timeline, but we have the grandfather paradox where we try to travel back in time. In other words, if I travel back in time and kill my grandfather, how was I even born in the first place? That's the, in science. Well, that's because when you travel back in time, you shift frequencies into a different timeline. So you're not killing the grandfather from the timeline you were on, you're killing the grandfather from a timeline that, that you never existed on. Right.

[Lewis Howes]

So you couldn't even go back there, I guess.

[Billy Carson]

Exactly. So getting back to your real timeline is now going to be virtually impossible. And there have been so many shows that have shown this with like Flash and many others trying to find how to get. How do I get back to. I think Flash number got back to his timeline in the TV series. Right. But he's based on real science.

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Wow.

[Billy Carson]

So time is something incredible because time is also malleable and bendable. So we Know that time can bend through something called a wormhole. We know that there's something called an Einstein Rosen bridge. Einstein and Rosen got together and came up with this theory of black holes and stable wormholes. And that space can be bent. And instead of traveling in a straight line to get to a destination, you can travel through curved space. Crazy. So time is malleable, it's bendable, and it's just, it's really crazy when you really understand, like, wow, time is really an illusion. Clocks exist, but time doesn't exist. And, you know, it's hard to wrap so somebody to wrap their mind around it. But because we're here in the third dimension, we have to have this time. But in any dimension above three, there is no time. Like I said earlier, the past, present and future happen all at once.

[Lewis Howes]

So how do we bend time to manifest our dreams faster?

[Billy Carson]

Oh, that's through conscious thought. The incredible thing they found out in the CIA found this out with the hemisync technique. It's a form of manifestation through conscious thought and focusing a beam of conscious thought to create a reality or to find out information. Really? Yes. Yeah. And through this, they discovered that the mind travels outside of space and time. So you can send your mind outside of space and time. Also, remote viewers use the same exact technique. They could send their mind out of space, outside of space and time. They can travel to the past to gather intel. This is also a CIA project called Project Stargate. You can look that up on Wikipedia. Right? And so went through this process of remote viewing. They can send their mind to the future, they can send their mind to the current, or they can send their mind even to the past. So the mind itself can break through that barrier, that invisible barrier that we believe exists of space and time, and it can go anywhere within a known universe, possibly within a known multiverse.

[Lewis Howes]

So when we're thinking of thought, who is thinking that thought? Where does thought come from? How does that process work?

[Billy Carson]

There's a couple of processes with thoughts. Now, of course, in two neurons are very close together. You create a synapse and the, the electrical charge jumps from one to the next, creating this thought. Right. Where does that spark even come from? Well, we know that we're human batteries and the energy is inside of us. But also, what is that thought? Now, if it's an idea, sometimes we think we get a brand new idea. We got an invention. Well, how come invention sometimes happens sporadically around the world almost at the same time? It's because the information already exists in the Ethereum. There's nothing new under the sun. That's an Ecclesiastes, right? There's nothing new under the sun. It's a real statement because everything that we are now creating or inventing or discovering, in my opinion, already existed or someone already had the thought for it. And so what happens is the data.

[Lewis Howes]

Is already out in the world.

[Billy Carson]

Datas, remember I saw you. The thoughts leave your skull. Scientists recently discovered that we can quantum entangle with the field, with energy or information in the field. So if someone thought of this, there's a possibility that I can get on that same frequency and I can get that into my mind. And if I have the ability to discern that thought or that information, I.

[Lewis Howes]

Can act on it and alchemize it, right?

[Billy Carson]

Exactly. And all of a sudden, boom, here it is. You might get the same frequency, I might get the same frequency, but I might not discern it. So it becomes your thought, and we think it's your original thought. Sometimes it's not your original thought. Right?

[Lewis Howes]

So it could be a thousand people who said, oh, I had that same idea, I just didn't actualize it exactly. Action on it.

[Billy Carson]

And they found something else interesting in science that. But the time that we're experiencing right now, as we're talking back and forth and having this discussion, we appear to be in real time. We're not in real time. We're about seven seconds in the past by the time I'm looking at you and responding to you and making my gestures and you're talking back to me. So they did this experiment. They discovered that a person is not living in real time. So they connected a person to an EEG cap and they also had them in a room with a computer screen or television screen, and they were showing different images on the screen. So they can capture what the process of the brain is when it sees something like something peaceful, like a bed of flowers, or somebody in stress or struggle, someone in a car accident, all these different things. They would show a war. So we're getting the feedback from the brain. What is this? What does the brain respond to? What does it look like on the computer? By accident? They discovered something amazing, that after a while, the brain started detecting what the next image would be before it showed up on the screen. Up to seven seconds in advance.

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How's that possible?

[Billy Carson]

Well, these images were being shown 10 seconds apart to give the brain time to reset. And they started noticing this trend. They were like, wait a minute, the brain is picking up what the next image is up to? 7 seconds in advance. So we're not even in real time. There's something going on that we don't understand that's already happened before. We catch up to that exact moment. And then there's another delay behind that, because now a photon has to ping off of you and go to my retina and get processed by my brain so I can figure out what you look like and what you just said. So that's even another delay.

[Lewis Howes]

You know what's interesting about that? What's coming up for me right now is sports, playing sports. And there's a great. Gosh, what's the quote? I think it's Gretzky. Maybe it was like, I'm always where the puck is going to be or something like that, you know?

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

When I was playing basketball or football, I was never the best athlete on the field, but I always had a sense, like, a feeling of, like, it's going to be there in that space at this time. Yeah, yeah. Let me go there. It's almost like I could predict where the ball was going to be thrown.

[Billy Carson]

That's exactly where I was going.

[Lewis Howes]

Where I either passed the ball for the person to get in that space in the next three seconds, like. And I developed that through sports. And I could always see kind of the future.

[Billy Carson]

Yes.

[Lewis Howes]

In sports. And that skill set of the vision of time and space allowed me to be better in sports.

[Billy Carson]

Exactly.

[Lewis Howes]

And the same thing with business. It's probably the same thing with your business as well. I see this trend happening. This is. The world is moving into this place of I'm going to be there as well.

[Billy Carson]

Got to be there. Like Rendezvous.

[Lewis Howes]

Exactly.

[Billy Carson]

Exactly.

[Lewis Howes]

That's it.

[Billy Carson]

That's exactly what makes a great athlete, what makes Michael Jordan better than most of the other athletes. They're practicing just as harder than most of them. I mean, he partied all night long and everything else. Right. I mean, this guy was. He worked out, too. Don't get me wrong. He trained, but, man, did this guy. And people are like, man, I'm working twice as hard as Michael Jordan, but I'm not Michael Jordan. Why is that? And how can he get on the court and just slice and dice through the whole team like they don't even exist? Because his seven seconds were probably more like two and a half, three seconds. So, like you said, he was closer to real time. And I think the elite athletes and elite businessmen and elite thinkers are closer to real time, where they're surfing on the wave. Right. Everyone is waiting for the wave to crash over them. So when you wait for the wave to crash over, you go, oh, I'm in this moment now. But instead of surfing on top of the wave, being closer to the real time that actually does exist and makes you look godlike. When Michael Jordan is on the court, people slow down. Time, he says slows down. He's just weaving through these people like they don't even exist, but they're moving as fast as they possibly can. But he's on another level here, right? He's in that zone. That's what that zone is.

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Flow.

[Billy Carson]

The zone, flow. Getting closer to real time. They're on seven seconds. I'm gonna get on three seconds, I'm gonna get on two seconds.

[Lewis Howes]

What do you think that is within someone like a Jordan or someone who's just at the top of their game? Because Jordan had his own demons. He had. He had traumas, he had challenges, he had conflicts. He had legal stuff happening. He had relationship issues, he had team issues with whatever it might be. He has stresses in life. Sure, billionaires have challenges. Yeah. But what is it that separates people in the top 1% to get in the flow and ride the wave of the frequency on the universe better than everyone else?

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, and that's a great question because some people say, man, well, this person's this, this da, da, da. And they've done all this. And how come they can do it better than me? Well, there's just some people that are naturally gifted consciously. The way their mind is set up, the way their brain works, the way their synapses and their frequencies and understanding the way their perception of themselves is. Like, Michael Jordan is so confident in himself, it's to the point of over cocky, right? But some people see like this guy's just too on and, you know, he believes he's better than anybody. Hey, I could beat you in golf. I could beat you in table tennis. I'll beat you in. I'll beat you in wherever. I'll beat you in a foot race. I'll beat you in washing dishes. That believe, that's his belief.

[Lewis Howes]

It gets him the results.

[Billy Carson]

It gives him the results. But see, that mindset he has some people see as egotistical. It's what allowed him to be a master manifester in the realm of sports belief. Yes. The pure, unadulterated, unequivocal, unshakable belief within his own self. Not anything on the outside within itself.

[Lewis Howes]

There's a story. I was in eighth grade and the high school, there was this senior who was the most gifted athlete I've Ever seen playing basketball?

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

And I would play with the upperclassmen sometime. It's in eighth grade because I was six, four.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

And I was, you know, more talented than 8th graders at the time. So they would let me practice with them sometimes. They were better than me. But this one guy was a freak athlete. Like he was. He looked godlike.

[Billy Carson]

Right? Right.

[Lewis Howes]

Chiseled. You're like perfect body. Jumped 44 inches, 360 dunk it in practice, like effortless, so smooth. But in the game was average at best. And I never understood it. Yeah. And I would ask people later, I was like, what was it about him? Because when he practiced, it was unstoppable. Like. And he could just do anything he wanted. And they said he had a lot of self doubt.

[Billy Carson]

That's it.

[Lewis Howes]

And I was like, I had a fraction of that talent, but I learned how to believe in myself. It got me certain results and it didn't look as pretty, but I got results, right?

[Billy Carson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

And I learned how to believe. Yeah. And that's hard.

[Billy Carson]

It's hard for a lot of people. To really, truly believe in yourself. You have to have that to be elite. And if you want to be elite in anything or you want to be the best you can be in anything, that belief has to be there. The second that that doubt creeps in, it's like a virus that begins to take over your subconscious. And then it just. It's like a deck of cards just crumbling over a period of time. Within that, the exercise of that game or that event or whatever it is you're doing. You begin to feel weaker and weaker. It's like kryptonite just creeping in on you.

[Lewis Howes]

And it all starts your mind.

[Billy Carson]

It starts in the mind. It's one little doubt after another doubt after another doubt. See, this happened. Oh my God, this happened. And the next thing you know, it just crumbles. And you crumble on the inside. On the outside you look like this Adonis, you look unstoppable. But on the inside you've crumbled.

[Lewis Howes]

So how can someone who has a pattern of falling into self sabotage, how can they switch it off and get back into self belief?

[Billy Carson]

The thing that I learned from my wife is pretty interesting is taking a rubber band, put it around your wrist, a rubber band. And every time you have one of those ants, those automatic negative thoughts, you snap yourself just a little snap. Because it's going to trigger an actual response in the body, a shock in the body that goes to the brain. And you begin to recognize these Automatic negative thoughts. You begin then to learn how to check yourself and get back into brain, heart coherence. Begin to get back and get back in rhythm. Begin to realize, oh, I was just doubting myself. Wait a minute. No, no, no, I got this. You have to build a habit. It's a habit building process. And it doesn't happen overnight. It's not going to be instant, but it takes time. But by doing a little snap over time, you develop this habit of catching yourself and stopping yourself. I'm sorry. And then realizing, oh, wait a minute, I do have this. I can do this. I am going to. I am getting better. I do have the ability to do this. And then the next thing you know, you become much better and you become more confident. And when the confidence builds, it grows. Now you become a master.

[Lewis Howes]

Wow. Where in your life do you struggle the most right now?

[Billy Carson]

Right now? I would say I struggle probably in managing our time with, you know, the family. That's a. There's so much going on in the business, and it's always a delicate balance between the family life and the business. You know, I have six kids. The youngest, most of them are all adults, but the youngest one's only 12 now. And to be able to carve out that time and not to keep putting them aside and make sure I stop, I got to force myself now. You got to pay attention. You got to be there, you know, and. And make sure I'm spending the right quality time with my wife. Make sure that we're not just talking business all the time because we're in business together.

[Lewis Howes]

There's so many opportunities.

[Billy Carson]

Yes. Yeah. You have to have a time where we just say, look, we're not talking business right now. You know, we're gonna. This is our time. And so hard. It's a delicate balance. It really, really is. People may sound like that doesn't sound like it's hard at all, but it's very, very difficult to balance when you're riding a wave and you're trying to capture that wave and maximize everything on it. The momentum, the momentum is there. You don't want to lose the momentum. And then at the same time, there's so many projects that we are a part of other than just it. That one thing. And then to be able to balance that with the family life. And so I'm learning. It's a process. I've gotten a lot better. I've gotten a lot better, but I still have more to go. I'm still developing process within me.

[Lewis Howes]

What have you learned about yourself through. Because you've been. You've been married in divorce, correct?

[Billy Carson]

Yes. Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

What have you learned about yourself through intimacy and relationships, marriage, divorce, and your inner world while you're in relationships?

[Billy Carson]

I've learned that being. Being stoic, being secretive or quiet about what you're truly feeling and how you feel about a situation is horrible. One of the worst things you could do, lack of communication and also poor communication, helps to be the detriment to the relationship as well. So even though I had some bad experiences with some exes, I also played a part in that as well. I can't blame everything on everybody else because at the end of the day, you got to look in the mirror and a lot of it is communication, you know, suppressing thinking that the person's thinking one thing and they're not, you know. And I think the biggest thing, though, is really being able to open up productive conversations. Not just surface level conversations, which is what I had for so many decades, but actually real deep, intimate conversations, breaking through questions that allow you to know the person on a much deeper, deeper level. And to be able to really open up that. That flower of life, so to speak, and to really be able to get on that same frequency, that's really the key. And that's what I've been working on recently, to the point where I'm. I'm even building an app that will help other people do this as I've been going through this process as well. That's cool. Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

And you talk about forgiveness as being a powerful first step for people. Is there anything you haven't forgiven yourself for?

[Billy Carson]

You know, there are. And that sometimes we think we've forgiven ourselves for almost everything. But I had so many traumas in my younger years. There's so many things locked away with inside of me. So I've been doing that inner work, you know, sitting with psychiatrists and. And, you know, and people to. To help pull it back out. Sometimes you need a little bit of help with somebody to help you go through a conversation, to pull out. I forgot that even happened. That's a trauma that was just cut away, just in a little corner there in a little nook and cranny. I forgot it was even there. So it's this. It's this process of day by day gradually taking time to talk, you know, with somebody you can trust, whether it's a therapist, a psychiatrist, you're second at your better half to help extract some of this information from you so you can realize, wow, I forgot about this. I gotta Go, I gotta deal with this, you know? And we were born with so much trauma, we don't believe it. Even just getting smacked on the butt coming out in the womb, that's trauma. Sure. Right. So we come into the world of trauma and there's so many things that happened back in the day. My mind, like, just locked a lot of it away in a. In a safe and put it to the side so I can cope and deal with real life and be able to do what I have to do. Because if I was focusing on that, I'd be. I'd be completely distraught and distracted. But so it's this unlocking of this, this safe box and taking these dark things out and really beginning to address them over, over time. So, you know, still working on it, man.

[Lewis Howes]

Wow.

[Billy Carson]

It's a process for someone that says.

[Lewis Howes]

Why even bring up the past? You know, why relive these traumas? Like, if they're not. If they're. You can block them or sweep them under the rug or you can compartmentalize. They're not really affecting me. What would you say to someone who thinks in an analytical way?

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

That says, you know, it's not worth it for me to open back the past of traumas and address them or just talk to someone about them.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

What's the real value? I'm going to feel more stress and worry and.

[Billy Carson]

Well, initially you will feel a little bit more stress as you bring that back up. You'll feel that emotion, but you'll be able to process the emotion. See, scientists, doctors have found out that that hidden stress, that trauma in the body that you haven't addressed and processed is what gives you the dis ease. The dis ease becomes disease and then you end up pushing up daisies.

[Lewis Howes]

What's that?

[Billy Carson]

That's when you're buried in the ground and the flowers grow on top of you.

[Lewis Howes]

You die.

[Billy Carson]

You die. Wow. It's the number one cause of cancer, you know, is. Is these traumas that are hidden within us that we've hide and hidden away. These body pains, these macaches, you know, all these sword joints. Sometimes, sometimes a lot of that is just the trauma that's hidden within our body. Also the hindrance of the trauma. Some people can't see that it's hindered them. It might not have hindered them financially, but it might be billionaires, it might be multi millionaires. That's okay for some people has hindered them in that area, but some it hasn't. But other areas are suffering, relationships with their family, relationships with people, you know, it could be all different things that are happening that are going on that you don't connect to the trauma. But the trauma is like an umbilical cord linked to everything going on in your reality.

[Lewis Howes]

Yes.

[Billy Carson]

And until you really deal with it and do the shadow work and begin to work and process some of these things, you're never going to become the true highest self that you're capable of being.

[Lewis Howes]

So how much do our emotions play a part in our life? Because some people have really exciting emotions, other people have stressed out emotions. Worry, fear, emotions. Where do these emotions stem from? Is it from an interpretation of things and how we feel and then we feel them throughout the body? But how much do these emotions impact our life?

[Billy Carson]

Emotions are huge. They, they influence almost every decision we make. I mean, people live on emotion. The stock market runs off of emotion. The stock market doesn't run on logic. Logic is not anywhere near the stock market. Exactly. It's all based on emotion. So you have to judge the emotion of the people which you want to make your call. Your put on the stock options. Right. Otherwise you have to read those emotions so you can make money. People make a living doing that. So we understand emotions are huge. And the thing about emotions is, you know, they start in the subconscious and then they come out and we emote them. Right. We push them out to the outside. And the effect of emotions are several ways. One emotion. One thing about emotions, if you're in a, in a, in a distraught state, a frequency of anger, disgust, despair, the biofield that's whipping out of your chest from your heart, the electromagnetic field which we know happens, it's also carrying that cortisol with it 20ft away, 8 to 20ft away. I'm sitting here with you right now. If I'm in a stress state, my field. Yeah, you're going to feel it literally because your field and my field are going to intertwine. And the cortisol hormones that are leaving my body on that field that you can't even see with your eye are going to increase your cortisol level and make you feel more stressed without even knowing it. And also by another means, if I'm in a very high frequency, vibrant and you're in a low frequency, I have the capability of raising your frequency to a higher frequency, making you feel better. Then when somebody says, you know, that person walked in a room and lit the room up, that's a real, a true statement.

[Lewis Howes]

Their light radiated from their heart.

[Billy Carson]

Yes.

[Lewis Howes]

And it impacted everyone else.

[Billy Carson]

Facts, scientific. And where Did I learn this when I took classes at MIT for Applied Neuroscience with Dr. Tara Swart? They taught. I know this our Swarth.

[Lewis Howes]

She's great.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah. Amazing. Incredible. That was my professor at mit. That's cool. Yeah. I did podcasts with her and everything. That is what she taught us. And I was like, this is not just like, metaphysical stuff. It's real, actual physical stuff. It's really happening. These interactions are happening. So understanding your emotion, but also some people think to suppress emotions, that's also bad. It's better to feel that anger, feel that frustration, feel that pain. Process it. Don't stay there. But if you hide it or suppress it, which is what I'm guilty of doing for many, many decades, it becomes a problem within the body. I hid and oppressed and suppressed so many emotions. I was so stoic. I was almost like a robot. We're. Yes. There's videos of me going back, you know, I don't know, a decade where I'm just like a stiff robot. I mean, I'm telling you, I was like. When people started seeing me laugh within the last four years and dance and act crazy and just be like, free, they're like, they stole Billy. They. He's a clone. They say, this ain't the same person. Like, what happened to him. But I was so stiff. Wow. I finally, just in four years, since I met my wife Elizabeth, was able to finally. She's the one who helped me discover this. To free myself and to feel emotions and to process the emotions and then to live life, don't stay in the emotion, process it. Let it flow through your body and come to terms with that and then live your life.

[Lewis Howes]

So what I'm hearing you say, it sounds to me that your emotions impact your energy and your energy dictates your life.

[Billy Carson]

Yes.

[Lewis Howes]

If you walk into any room, whether it's with your family member, a lover, potential business partner, your team, whatever it might be, and you show up with an energy where your emotion has impacted your energy to be at a lower frequency, you're essentially going to bring the energy down.

[Billy Carson]

Yes.

[Lewis Howes]

And if you. You shift your emotion to raise your energy, your frequency will be higher in every situation. So it sounds like it's a skill to not allowing emotion to impact your energy and pull you down. It's learning to shift that emotion quicker. If you need to get it out because something challenging has happened, get it out, but then shifting it so you don't stay in a lower energetic state consistently.

[Billy Carson]

Correct.

[Lewis Howes]

Is that correct?

[Billy Carson]

Yes. And the easiest way to shift it is to think of something that makes you extremely happy. Think of a great moment in your life. Everyone has at least one great moment in their life. Focus on that. Like sit and meditate, take 10 deep breaths and focus on that great, great, great thing, something, the best experience you've ever had in whatever it was. And right away your body will begin to normalize your heart rate and your pulse and everything will begin to normalize and you'll get back into brain, heart coherence.

[Lewis Howes]

Yeah. This is why meditation has become so popular in the last five to 10 years. Because it is a simple tool of just breathing, even for one minute, where you will get into brain and heart coherence through breath and slowing down the breath and realigning the nervous system to harmony and peace. And if you can practice that if you're feeling overwhelmed and stressed, but you can practice that throughout the day before getting into conversations, before you show up at your work, before you come home to see your spouse, whatever it might be, before you see your kids. You're going to bring a different energy and therefore a different frequency to that moment in time. What is the, the difference between then a frequency, a vibration and emotions?

[Billy Carson]

Well, it's all really along a way of describing the same thing, right? Because all it's all frequency. The vibration is actually a frequency and the frequency is actually a vibration. Because when something is a frequency, it's undulating and that undulation is an actual vibration. And the emotion itself is sending out vibration of frequency, which is actually a vibration. So it's all three the same exact thing.

[Lewis Howes]

What is the highest level of frequency that a human can express?

[Billy Carson]

Well, there's no way to really measure that, although we do know that by putting an EEG cap on a person's skull and having them in several different states of mind, we can see on the screen oscillation waves. Right? So if somebody's in a distressed state, a sad state, if you're looking at an image on the screen that's extremely sad, like a war torn country or something like that, we'll see this very slow, wide oscillation, high and low troughs, very spaced out. That's a low frequency. Scientifically we're seeing the frequency.

[Lewis Howes]

A taller wave.

[Billy Carson]

Yes, a taller wave, but spread out, like more distance between the height and the trough.

[Lewis Howes]

Okay.

[Billy Carson]

Spread out and out in a higher frequency. Someone is happy, excited, enthusiastic. We then see the waves like this. So the height and the trough and the space in between is the much closer. And that means they're in a high frequency state. So we can literally see this on a computer screen. So when we talk about getting to a higher vibration, it's not just metaphysical words, it's a real scientific thing, a real state of being in this reality, in your real body. It's not just some woo woo stuff, it's real.

[Lewis Howes]

So would that state be joy, love, excitement, passion, adventure, curiosity? Would that be more of the higher frequency state?

[Billy Carson]

All higher frequency happiness? Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

So when you were, you know, a decade ago, when you were more robotic.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

In your words and I guess analytical and stoic.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

Were you allowing yourself to express the highest frequencies possible?

[Billy Carson]

I was not. I was stuck right in the middle. I would get to the gray area and just, you know, I wasn't, I was, for some reason I had started to put myself into this compartment where I was compartmentalizing so much and I wasn't allowing myself to express myself at the highest level.

[Lewis Howes]

Why?

[Billy Carson]

I don't know. It just gradually it happened over time and I became more reclusive and more reclusive. I was. I kind of do know why. I think it was this relationship that I was in, it was a very, a very bad one. I mean, it was a super psychopathic narcissist, you know, and it was. Everything was my fault. Everything, everything, everything, everything. You know, and it was just a lot of drama.

[Lewis Howes]

You have to numb yourself out.

[Billy Carson]

I numb myself, Yeah, I numb myself and I got myself so numb to where it became kind of the norm. And then over time, even after I was out of that, I did that for 20 years, by the way, with that one person. And when I got out of it, I had trained myself to be in that kind of numb situation, that box that I put myself in. And I found out that it was really hard to break out. I would get into other relationships and things, but I would only get myself up to here. And then I would just reach this limit and I would like suppress getting out and being my true, full, real self. Wow. And then it took somebody like Marques. I keep giving the credit. My wife broke me open out of that thing, you know, and then. And allowed me to express and feel myself and allowed me to feel vulnerable again. Wow. And to be happy and to be jovial and make jokes and fun. And now I'm like the life of the party everywhere I go, you know.

[Lewis Howes]

Well, the, the child Billy came out.

[Billy Carson]

Yes. Yeah. And it had been hidden away and locked in a box.

[Lewis Howes]

What's the thing you love about your wife the most?

[Billy Carson]

I just love the fact that she is just so Caring and giving. You know, every single day when I wake up, I notice she's looking out for my best interests. She's making sure I take all my supplements and my vitamins because if I don't see them out of sight, out of mind, it's not going to happen. You know, making sure I exercise all the time. And you know, she's a little younger than me, so it's important that I stay physically fit and stay in shape to some degree. She doesn't want to become a caregiver, you know, but she's always looking out for me. Not only through physically, but also mentally. How are you? How are you doing? Let's sit down and talk. Let's ask each other some deep questions here. Let's get to this, you know, this level where we're on the same frequency and I can see if there's any way I can better serve you or you can better serve me. What things are you going through right now that I can help you with? What things am I going through? You know, and having these deeper conversations, very intimate conversations to allow ourselves to really express to one another and talk to one another and conversate one another, but also allowing ourselves to learn how we can be better with one another. Yes. And I've never had that before, ever.

[Lewis Howes]

Wow.

[Billy Carson]

I've never even heard those words in my entire life. Relationships. Me too, man.

[Lewis Howes]

Yeah, It's a, it's a blessing.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

Something to receive and be grateful for every day.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

Of all the ancient wisdom that you've studied and researched and, and gone down, you know, rabbit holes for decades on this, what is the ancient truth or wisdom that most people don't know about that you think is the most powerful thing we should be aware of?

[Billy Carson]

Well, I believe that there was a lot of battles and wars in the ancient times. These wars are spoken about in the ancient Sumerian tablets written in cuneiform, they're in the cylinder scrolls, they're in the Mahabharata Indian text, they're in the Indian Betas, the Rigged Beta, specifically the Battle of the Ten Kings. They worked their way into a lot of the ancient texts. Even the indigenous natives of Americas, the terror papers. All these documents are showing that at one time there was a high level of culture, even the Natu from ancient chemists. It before it was called Egypt, there were these wars, these wars of the quote unquote gods. So these high level beings that were in some way shape or form creating these situations on this planet where there was a lot of turmoil. Everyone wanted to Dominate and take over someone else. Those wars made it into a biblical text, made it into Quran and everything else. So they're, they're well known wars that happened. The thing that I want people to know, they don't realize is we don't have to be like that, that we just continue to copy what's happened to us, what's happened in the ancient past, that we are just reciprocating and going through this cycle of up and down, this Yuga cycle of recreating these same traumatic situations on this planet. And that if we really look at the past and really analyze it through a magnifying glass and learn from it, say to ourselves, this is what's been going on for eons. How do we now stop this from happening in the future? Because ultimately there's probably been, based on my research, at least four golden ages on this planet. Ages where there was peace and tranquility and no war. And then something happens and it collapses and goes back around the cycle again. And right now I think that we're in the, we're in the Tetra Yuga, which is like the Silver Age heading back towards the Golden Age. We're the very, very beginning of the silver. Thousands of years away, but the very beginning.

[Lewis Howes]

Thousands of years away.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, it's called the Great Year. It's a long time, but we're in the stage right now, a stage of awakening, enlightenment, the age of information, where a lot of people are really beginning to ask more questions. So we're in the very vulnerable process of learning right now. And if we can understand what happened in the past and understand the past is prologue, we could prevent a damned or doomed future for our future generations. And every time I research these Yuga cycles and this rise and fall of civilizations, which are also talked about in the animal tablets, I began to realize something. There's not one text anywhere, and I've gone through thousands of texts that says that this cycle has to happen. The ultimate goal, I believe, or the ultimate test or experiment that's going on, this grand experiment is can we now be the ones that make it to a golden age and sustain it? And how many other civilizations out there in the known universe have reached that sustained golden age, and how many have continued to collapse and go back through the cycle? Wow.

[Lewis Howes]

What do you think is keeping humanity from living in peace?

[Billy Carson]

The main thing from living in peace is the ego. The ego, the ability to want to dominate others, to put the boot on the neck of others, to control others.

[Lewis Howes]

Why do people want that?

[Billy Carson]

It's something that really feeds the ego. It's something innate and dark deep within us. It's an ancient trauma that's been passed down through epigenetic memories. Scientists discovered that these epigenetics are real and that they're passed through the body, through the rna, from the father's side, and they go on for generations and generations and generations. So there's this dark, deep trauma within our bodies that's hidden away. That's programming code, and this code is popping up, influencing the ego and giving people these thoughts to dominate others.

[Lewis Howes]

Wow.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

Is it possible to break the traumas of our ancestors?

[Billy Carson]

Affirmations. The only way is through positive affirmations. Meditation and positive affirmations is the only way to break it. So we got to be able to begin to get people understanding that this is within us. This darkness is hiding in our cells, in our body, within the DNA, and we need to be able to now rewrite that. How do we reprogram it? Meditation and affirmations. Meditation and affirmations. We have to uncoat ourselves and recode ourselves, deprogram and reprogram. And then the RNA that we pass down to the next generation will be healed and cured from that ancient mindset. Diseased thought process of domination. Right now, we live in a universe, or we live in the civilization on this planet, at least based on full competition over collaboration. We have to get out of this competition. Mindset. It's in everything that we see, everything that we do and realize you're only in competition with yourself. If you succeed at the podcasting and you get 100 million subscribers, I'm going to be your best cheerleader. Right? Because I feel like that's phenomenal. He achieved his birthright and there's still room for me to grow. What can I learn from him instead of seeing it? Oh, man, he made it to 100 million people. And what am I going to do? And I need to beat Lewis Howells. I mean, that mindset is what's holding us down. The mindset of envy, of jealousy, of competition. When we move and shift into the collaboration mindset and realize that abundance manifests throughout the entire universe, and abundance is unlimited, and we realize it's unlimited abundance. So if he's successful, I could be successful on the same level, too. If this company's doing this, I can have a company doing the same thing. GAIA's a streaming TV network. I don't wish any ill on them. I want them to see. I want them to do great things. There's room for me they're paving the way for my company to be a huge streaming TV platform. Right. So why am I wishing and hoping the worst on them? I'm just following the trend and not reinventing the wheel.

[Lewis Howes]

Yes.

[Billy Carson]

Right. So it's this mind. But when you shift, if you don't shift into that, it's be like, I got to beat Gaia. I got to beat this one. I got to be. When you move into that mindset, it's a hindrance, it's dark, and you end up going to battle.

[Lewis Howes]

Wow.

[Billy Carson]

You go. You go to war. But when you move into the frequency of collaboration, how can we be. How can we work together? How can we become a bundle package together on Amazon Prime? You know, how can I send you some people for your podcast that'll be great, great people for you to interview and maybe you might know, somebody might be good for my podcast. When you move into that frequency, everything just flows.

[Lewis Howes]

Yes.

[Billy Carson]

And you grow and there's less stress, less pressure, and there's no war.

[Lewis Howes]

So collaboration over competition.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

Did you always have a collaborative mindset growing up, or were you more into competition? You had to break that cycle.

[Billy Carson]

I had a competition mindset coming from sports. Yeah. And I realized coming out of sports, that keeping that same mindset everywhere you go is abrasive. Yeah. And it takes so much energy.

[Lewis Howes]

Yeah.

[Billy Carson]

I said, you know, I went to. I remember this one time, this is back in 1998, a guy invited me to a networking meeting. Back then used to be all these network you go and meet in person. No virtual stuff. Right. No LinkedIn. You got to go sit down with people in their face. And I went. I said, I begrudgingly. But I went. I went to this meeting, and I met the most incredible people there, and we exchanged business cards, you know, in good old days, and got to know each other a little bit. Added to my Rolodex. And I made a phone call about maybe a month later to one of the people I met there. Ended up closing a big business deal. Not from them directly, but somebody they sent me to. And I was like, wow, just one meeting. And I realized then it's the collaboration that counts, not the competition. And I started shifting in that moment into the collaboration mindset.

[Lewis Howes]

It just feels better, too.

[Billy Carson]

It feels, I mean, so clean.

[Lewis Howes]

There's a. There's a. There's a ego, fun feeling of competing and beating someone. There's like. There's a feeling to that, too.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

[Lewis Howes]

That's more of, like, a darker side, I guess. Unless it's in sports, like, there's a spirit of competition where you can also have a spirit of sportsmanship.

[Billy Carson]

Right.

[Lewis Howes]

Which is, can you compete and then shake each other's hands afterwards?

[Billy Carson]

Exactly.

[Lewis Howes]

In the spirit of the game.

[Billy Carson]

Exactly.

[Lewis Howes]

Of. Thank you for helping me elevate my skills to this new level. Maybe I lost the game, but you helped me grow. And when both teams or individuals can do that in the spirit of sportsmanship and kind of collaboration, of raising the frequency within each other, that's a win win.

[Billy Carson]

Absolutely.

[Lewis Howes]

Even if someone loses, you can create a win win. Yes, if you interpret it differently. So I had to learn that in my 20s because I was all about competition.

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[Lewis Howes]

I need to win. I needed to rewrite. And, man, it's exhausting.

[Billy Carson]

It's exhausting, man, it takes so much energy. You know, I got US Junior Olympics for a little while. AAU basketball, usssa. I had a large program in South Florida, one of the largest, actually. 121 players in the total program. And scouting and going out and trying to make sure you beat this and find out what this game plan is and how do you go past. You'll get past this coach's plays and all that. It takes so much energy. Now, of course, it's sport, so you have to do it, but when you then move it out of there into general life.

[Lewis Howes]

Yeah.

[Billy Carson]

Oh, you think I got the system. I'm take this system I use. It went here and it went over here.

[Lewis Howes]

Doesn't work.

[Billy Carson]

Oh, no, it didn't work. It's just so battle, man. So the battle. You create battles that don't even exist. You create them out of thin air.

[Lewis Howes]

I had to learn how to be collaborative.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

In my 30s and. And realize that's the true key to getting success is like helping others win, serving others being of value. Yeah. And knowing that it's not always going to be them that help you win also.

[Billy Carson]

Exactly.

[Lewis Howes]

It's not always going to be that. But I was just telling this to my brother this morning for, like the last, I don't know, 12 years of doing this show, but also just kind of 16, 17 years of being in business and stuff. I've just tried to be a giver, I guess me and you are givers. And that's why in a wounded place, you attract a taker.

[Billy Carson]

Yes.

[Lewis Howes]

In relationships. So you have an emotional wound of intimacy. Yeah. But in life, I just tried to be a giver. And I was telling them this morning, I was like, not every person I gave to has given Me something of equal value or greater value in return to what I gave them. But I live in a beautiful home. I have a sanctuary. I have an opportunity to make a difference. I have a big platform, like, life has given me so much. And I believe it's because I keep showing up consistently, not perfectly, but consistently to try to find value and give that value to other people. Yes. And by being of service, I believe that you will be rewarded eventually. You know, it may not happen right away, but you will gain incredible gifts, and it's going to look different than everyone else. But it's like I receive and appreciate and I'm grateful for what I have. And I think that is also an element to manifesting more is really living in the frequency of gratitude for what I do have.

[Billy Carson]

Yep.

[Lewis Howes]

And you can want and. And create more, but also, like, if I don't have more, I'm happy.

[Billy Carson]

I'm happy.

[Lewis Howes]

I'm happy.

[Billy Carson]

I'm happy. You know, I really game came to that true realization of what you just said. Like I said just weeks ago, I almost died in the hospital. Yeah. And I was analyzing. I. I had to say to myself, woof, this is pretty tough. You know, when they. When they came and put the heart monitors and the oxygen thing on me and all this stuff, and I'm in there with all these, these, these IV trees and all these IVs in my arms and everything else, and I'm in so much agony and pain, and I couldn't breathe. And I was thinking, man, every breath I take, I feel the. The liquid, the fluid, the groggling. And I was so afraid to go to sleep because I was like, if I go to sleep, I might not wake up, man. But I had this thought, like, what if I didn't wake up? Not that I'm trying to leave, but if I do, if I don't wake up, I realize I'm so thankful.

[Lewis Howes]

Wow.

[Billy Carson]

I lived the life of ten men, you know.

[Lewis Howes]

That's beautiful.

[Billy Carson]

I lived a great life.

[Lewis Howes]

Yeah.

[Billy Carson]

Even with everything that happened, I really did live a good life.

[Lewis Howes]

Yeah, man.

[Billy Carson]

So I was happy. I was like, well, I. If this is it, then I accept it. But I was given a chance to come back and fight, which I did. But I realized, like, I really have such a great life.

[Lewis Howes]

Yeah.

[Billy Carson]

I have nothing to complain about.

[Lewis Howes]

That's beautiful, man. Even with all the traumas and all the challenges and relationships, and I really.

[Billy Carson]

Have lived the life of 10 men. I've been all over the world. I've been around the world 18 times. I've traveled, living my dreams. I've, you know, I've manifested, you know, a nice place to live. I've manifested being able to provide things for my family. I've manifested being happy, which is the hardest thing to do. I've achieved those things, you know, and you know, obviously not that I wanted to leave, but I felt like, wow, I really look back, I'm so happy. I'm so grateful. I have so much gratitude for life I was given.

[Lewis Howes]

That's beautiful, man.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

Do you have a spiritual practice today?

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, I just, you know, my biggest thing that I do is I like to meditate. That's my biggest practice. And every single time I get in the shower, that's my prayer closet. Because what I envision is everything that's holding me back, everything is dark, everything that's frustrating, everything that's hindering me, it's washing away, coming out of the body and some washing critical, man.

[Lewis Howes]

Yeah, yeah. Just.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah. And then once I get it all out, I feel like it's all out and I take a moment and then I just open up and I say, okay, now bring in all the positivity, bring in all the high energy, bring in all the frequency, bring in all the manifestation, bring in the peace and the sex and the health and everything else. And that's how I, you know, take my shower. So I take the opportunity in my showers sometimes I can take three a day because I'm doing saunas, I'm working out, I'm going. My wife wants to go for this walk with her, so. But, but I'm getting this through the shower process is my prayer closet.

[Lewis Howes]

That's beautiful, man. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. Whenever I'm feeling down or maybe sick or something like that, or something like cold coming out or whatever it might be, I imagine flowing stream of like golden water flowing from the top of my head, like through my body, cleansing my cells. Yes. And just visualizing this like golden river flowing through my body, out my toes.

[Billy Carson]

Right.

[Lewis Howes]

And whether it's placebo or whatever it is, it seems to always make an impact. Yeah, yeah. By thought.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

It's not actually happening.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

But I'm imagining that it's happening.

[Billy Carson]

Well, that's making it real. Isn't that interesting? It's really happening in that higher dimensional realm, in that multi dimensional area. It's really happening and I believe in it, man. It has a direct effect on me, you know, And I'm not a perfect person. I make mistakes just like everyone else. But it's recognizing that you know, recognizing it, coming to terms with it, addressing it and just trying to move through it and then try to find a way to again not duplicate that, but also to have the gratitude for even understanding that.

[Lewis Howes]

I recognize that, yes.

[Billy Carson]

So many people go through life without recognizing anything. And they're just like NPCs in the Matrix, non player characters, but the ones that are conscious. You begin to become self aware. And self aware is not just recognizing, oh that's, that's just me in the mirror, but self care is being able to realize that you're not your thoughts. You're the observer of your thoughts and that's where you gain your most power.

[Lewis Howes]

We're not our thoughts, we are the observer of our thoughts. What is the biggest illusion that people have?

[Billy Carson]

They think that they are, for example, I'm Billy Carson, right? They think that that's, that, that person. So you're Lewis Howe. So people think that, oh that's, that's me. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm Billy Carson. I'm Lewis House. I'm Mary Jane or whatever the number is, right, whatever the name is. But they're not. When you're born, you're given a name, a race and a religion. And you spend your whole life depending on false identity. Like I always say, most people have no idea who they are. They have no clue. They don't even begin to know who they actually are. And they'll go through their whole life in that illusion. Who's Billy Carson? Somebody gave me that name. I never chose that name. It was given to me. Somebody told me, you know, to be in this religion, I didn't choose to be in that thing. Somebody told me I was black, a black guy. I mean, I look brown, so who am I? People have to take time to sit with themselves and figure out who they truly are, what their true interests are outside of what's been told to, been given to them, what's been forced on them. And find out what they're truly passionate about, find out things that they would like to get, they, they would like to be interested in, to do and passions that they want to fulfill and things they want to manifest outside of everything that's been given to them and forced upon them and realize that they're much more than what the programming code is. We're programmed from age 1 to 7 becomes who you are for the rest of your life according to modern science. Well, in that time frame a lot of us get that code and we stick to that code. We have to sit down and realize that we've been programmed. Now how do we deprogram this? How do we then rewrite that program? And how do we get through the fear of even asking the questions on how to get out of this? Programming a belief system is so hard coded into our bodies now that the thought of asking any question or questioning it any way, it hurts us physically and it makes us completely frightened and horrified.

[Lewis Howes]

Well, it's also a community aspect of. If your community or family or friends have a belief system and you're questioning their beliefs, right, you're questioning them, they start to get upset with you.

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You don't want to.

[Lewis Howes]

You don't want to, you know, be kicked out of the tribe or the church or the community. You want to have love and family.

[Billy Carson]

So it's a delicate situation.

[Lewis Howes]

It's challenging because you. I think we should be questioning things. Shouldn't just accept everything that is told to us as 100% truth and fact. I think you can ask questions about it and that's a good thing. And maybe you come to a belief, you come to an agreement of like, oh, this belief system works for me.

[Billy Carson]

Yes.

[Lewis Howes]

It benefits me, right. It gives me value, it brings me more harmony and alignment in my life. And this set of values, when I live up to them, I create a better reality for myself.

[Billy Carson]

That's it.

[Lewis Howes]

I feel more peace, I feel more free, I feel more abundant. Or does this set of values, do I need to adjust some of them or question them or. They pushed on me and maybe they do work, but maybe they don't work for me right now. You know, it's like you have to.

[Billy Carson]

Question things, right, Just to come to a better overall understanding of what you've accepted. Program wise.

[Lewis Howes]

Yes.

[Billy Carson]

And like you said, some of it's good, some of it's useful, some of you can go along with, but become aware of it. Understand that this was coded into you. Now let's dig deeper into that code and understand. Is this something that I really truly accept or am I just going with the status quo?

[Lewis Howes]

Yes.

[Billy Carson]

So many people live their life on status quo till the day that they actually die and never really truly living alive, but not living right. And a lot of people are waiting to die so they can live. I choose to live now. Wow.

[Lewis Howes]

What was the program that you had to decode and reprogram that was the hardest for you?

[Billy Carson]

Oh, one of the hardest for me, to be honest, was understanding money. Financial receipt. The programming I had growing up was my parents had a little shoebox and if they had 20 bucks in there. That was a lot of money. And that was on top of the closet. Mostly it just had change in it. I would get sent to the grocery store to smash the cans on the shelves because then you can get it for like 10 cents a can.

[Lewis Howes]

Wow.

[Billy Carson]

You know, waiting for people to bring us food and taking fruits off of fruit trees in the neighborhood. We didn't even have water. Like I said, we would attach the water hose to our neighbor's house so we can rinse off in the backyard. So seeing that no checkbooks, no bank account, no savings account, no life insurance, no nothing. Just growing up under that programming code.

[Lewis Howes]

You weren't educated in money.

[Billy Carson]

I wasn't educated in money, you know, and so that I made a lot of financial mistakes when I was younger. You know, I had, I had built some businesses and done really well. I remember I had this one marketing company I started. This is prior to the Internet, just, just as the Internet was getting ready to come into existence.

[Lewis Howes]

So like late 90s or something?

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, late 90s. And I was doing phenomenal numbers. I mean, imagine late 90s, making 10, 12 grand a week. That was good money back then. Crushing life. I was doing good, man. House, car, everything, right? And then the company, the two owners of the. My, my biggest client, the two owners of that company got into an argument and one owner siphoned all the money under the account and went back to Canada and left the other one high and dry. And I had, at that time, I had like probably seven accounts, but that was like 90 of my income. And I lived up to that income. And I didn't save money money, I was just living by, get it, Spending, get it. This is great, man. I'm rich. I'm doing good forever, right? Not, not really understanding money and financial literacy and, and just living paycheck to paycheck, making 10 grand a week. It was crazy living. And then this happened and I got into a hole and they kept promising to pay and promising to pay and promising to pay. And I kept servicing them, servicing them. Like I gotta, this is my biggest client. Instead of realizing I got to buy some more clients, how am I going to replace this income? And it never happened. And I ended up losing house, car, everything. I ended up sleeping on the beach, homeless for a week. And I was like, how did I get into this situation? All the money I made, I spent every dime. It was so hard for me. But that was my eye opening experience to realize, you better learn about money and how to handle it because you can't afford to put your family in this situation. Wow. And I ended up sleeping on the beach off of William Lehman Causeway down in Miami Aventura area when they had all the low rises, all motels and stuff. And I went to the owner of the motel and said, look, I have no money. I don't want to cause any problems, but can I sleep in my car in your parking lot? And I went and got a hooptie from Anything on wheels for 450 on layaway. Wow. I got in the car, got this rusted out hooptie. I slept in that car. I felt down on myself for about a day and a half, I'm not gonna lie. But then I got 30 bucks from somebody and I took 10 for gas, which went a long way back then because gas was like 79 cents a gallon. Yeah. And then I took the other 20 and got changed from that same owner of that motel. And I went to the pay phone on the corner. The corner was right on the Main street of A1A, so I had to wait for the cars to stop at the red light so there wouldn't be any noise. And I got the yellow pages out from underneath the phone book, phone booth and sort of cold calling businesses, getting new clients, setting myself appointments, going on appointments, closing deals. Wow. And within a couple of weeks, I got some advanced payments. I got myself off the street, back into a nice apartment, got. Got that good at hooptie, got into a nice car, gradually got back into a house, built my way back up. But on my way back up, I made a commitment to myself to understand and learn financial literacy. And through that process, I had gained so much knowledge with money and finances, which is why I wrote the book. Woke Doesn't Mean Broke. It's a selling book in four countries, and it's based on the US economic system. Wow.

[Lewis Howes]

A thick book, man.

[Billy Carson]

688 pages in.

[Lewis Howes]

In. In a. I don't know if you could do this in a short answer, but what is. What is money?

[Billy Carson]

Money is nothing more than an energy exchange. It's an instrument. Money doesn't even exist. If you and I were in Alaska right now, inside of a cold cave, we got stranded there, and we had a bag with $1 billion in it. But knowing that if we didn't warm ourselves that night, we would die from pulmonary edema, we would light that bag of money on fire so fast just to live one more day. The money has only consciously attributed value. Whatever we give it emotionally is what it actually is valued at. It's just Zeros and ones, pieces of paper, it means nothing. It's the energy exchange. So the energy exchange, there was heat for life, you see. So once I understood that, I was like, oh, it's not the money, it's energy. So how can I get on the frequency? Because energy is a frequency. So once you get to the frequency of the money, it appears. And I understood that and I began to just get on the frequency of the money.

[Lewis Howes]

What is the frequency of money to.

[Billy Carson]

Get on the frequency is understanding. Okay, for example, this is the late 90s. I saw a commercial, said.com, blackscreenibm.com that was the whole commercial. I said, what the heck is this? IBM.com. it came on four times during an NBA game. I said, now that's expensive. Yeah, even back then. So I went to the bookstore immediately. Of course, no computers. Right. I said can you show me or tell me anything about this.com? iBM has this.com commercial. She said, oh, it's over there in the HTML section. I go to the HTML section. I start looking at these books. I go holy crap, this is crazy. And I realized the old ancient Native American prophecy, Hopi prophecy, where they said that in the future the world will be connected on a world wide web and information will travel to and fro instantaneously. And I said, I can't believe I lived to this era. I'm here and the era where this is about to happen right now before my very eyes. So I knew I had to get on the frequency of that because that would then bring what? Bring me the money. So I started studying HTML, I started studying ASP scripts, JavaScripts, C. And I learned all that at the bookstore. I went to rent a center and got a 1995 a week computer called a Packard Bell. I really call it a packet from hell because it's 2 gigabyte hard drive. Right. And I started replicating this coding on the computer. I became pretty good at it. Started my first Internet company called dop.com marketing group. Wow. And I built that into a multi million dollar corporation. And then I ended up getting acquired by globench, which was a former FBI agent who actually retired and wanted to have bus benches with HTML. I'm sorry, with LCD screens on them to do marketing, a promotion. And then we ended up getting bought out by the Amber Alert company.

[Lewis Howes]

Wow.

[Billy Carson]

So.

[Lewis Howes]

So it's kind of like seeing where is money's frequency at.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

And then putting your energy on that same frequency level.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, it's going to be the money in the math of it.

[Lewis Howes]

Yeah. There's going to be money in the dot com. Whatever this thing is.

[Billy Carson]

I don't know.

[Lewis Howes]

Let me go understand it and learn about how to use it.

[Billy Carson]

Exactly.

[Lewis Howes]

Be involved in it and then get. Because there's going to be money flowing there.

[Billy Carson]

Exactly. I got on the dot com frequency.

[Lewis Howes]

Yeah.

[Billy Carson]

And money was the side effect. Millions of dollars was the side effect, actually. That.

[Lewis Howes]

That's amazing, man.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

I've got a couple final questions for you, Billy. This has been powerful and we'll have to have you come back on for another episode in the future, but I want people to follow you. ForbiddenKnowledge.com ForbiddenKnowledge TV that's where the four. You've got an amazing. This is a newer book right here, right?

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, that's my. That's one of my newer books. Yeah.

[Lewis Howes]

Newer book called Fractal, Fractal Holographic Universe, the Matrix Code Revealed. If you guys want to learn about more about everything we've talked about here, it's all in this book. You can check it out on your website, forbiddenknowledge.com Also, this seems pretty interesting. Woke doesn't mean broke. And this is a thick book. This is all about money.

[Billy Carson]

It's about money. How to be conscious and awake. It's not the conscious woke name. It's the consciousness being awakened, not the other one. Right. It came out before they came up with that term.

[Lewis Howes]

They're woke. Yeah, yeah. The woke terminology.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah, yeah. Not that woke term. This is really about being awake. Wow. And. But then don't be broke, because if you're out here talking about abundance and we have the power within us and everything else and you can't pay your light bill, it's a problem. You're not really a student of the teachings. The hoof is in the pudding.

[Lewis Howes]

100%.

[Billy Carson]

Yeah. And this is a giant reference book to every aspects of financial literacy. I'm also a contributor to Entrepreneur magazine. And so they, you know, they knew about the book. I contacted them. They went through a process, a screening process and allowed me to be a contributor. And I've got some. All my articles that I write for Entrepreneur, all on financial literacy. Because I think that's the biggest thing we're struggling in, in the world right now is financial literacy, which is where I struggled.

[Lewis Howes]

That's beautiful.

[Billy Carson]

For a while.

[Lewis Howes]

Woke doesn't mean broke.

[Billy Carson]

I love this. Thank you.

[Lewis Howes]

Anywhere else we should send people to. To support you today? You've got these different places to go to.

[Billy Carson]

Well, I've got my TV network for bidding Knowledge TV with the number four. So they can go get the forbidden Knowledge TV app on any App Store, iOS, Google Play, Amazon, Amazon, you know, Apple TV, LG TV, Samsung TV, Android TV, any TV or whatever. Just go get the forbidden off TV app. A lot of incredible content there. Docu series, docudramas. Now we're doing actual fictional series that have knowledge encoded into them. That's cool. We have animation, we have, you know, I own a record label too. So we have conscious music, amazing 432Hz. We have workshops and class and training sessions and motivation, inspiration.

[Lewis Howes]

Just amazing.

[Billy Carson]

Everything there. So somebody can go there and they could feel comfortable. Like, when I come here, I'm going to walk away with something that I'm going to learn today.

[Lewis Howes]

That's beautiful, man. Thank you. We'll send. We'll link it all up and send people there. Appreciate it. I want to acknowledge you, Billy, before I ask the final two questions for your ability to transform over the last five to ten years. Again, it sounds like you were very analytical, you know, in a certain mode. And I think that when people allow the child to come out of them through healing the inner child and through the journey of healing and forgiveness, it sets us free. And when we are free, emotionally, spiritually, mentally, I feel like we make a bigger impact on the people around us. We have a greater potential to actualize our best selves. So I want to acknowledge you for that transformation.

[Billy Carson]

Thank you, brother.

[Lewis Howes]

I appreciate it and for showing up the way you do. I know you get criticized and attacked online for stuff, and I appreciate that. You're just constantly trying to find wisdom that relates to you and you're trying to share what you're learning.

[Billy Carson]

That's it, man.

[Lewis Howes]

And, and, and I think you're doing a great job. So I want to acknowledge you for that, Billy.

[Billy Carson]

Thank you, man.

[Lewis Howes]

And I hope we. And if people want Billy to come back on, leave a comment below, share the biggest takeaway from today. And we'll. We'll get Billy back on in the future. But this is a question I ask everyone at the end called the Three Truths. Okay, so imagine hypothetical scenario. You live as long as you want in this realm, but it's the last day on earth. You accomplish and manifest all your dreams. Everything you want to happen happens, right? But the last day, you've got to take all of your work with you. So the books are gone, the TV network is gone, anything you create, gone.

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Hypothetical.

[Lewis Howes]

But you get to leave behind three lessons that you've learned from life and that's all we would have from your content. What would those three truths be for you?

[Billy Carson]

The first truth I would say is the ultimate frequency is love. To make sure you get on the love frequency, because without love, nothing can persist. Love has to permeate and does permeate the entire known universe. The second thing I would do is I would tell people to not to focus on material things. Material things are important. Material things make life pleasant and easy in the third dimension. But if you focus solely only on that, you'll be out of balance and you'll be out of sync with what really matters. Focus on building positive and healthy relationships. That's what you should focus on the most. And have a balance within your life between material things and non material things. And then the last thing I would say is to just be of service to others. What legacy can you leave behind that would be better than people remembering how you assisted and helped them in their darkest time, in their time of need, when they didn't even know you were coming to save them?

[Lewis Howes]

Yeah, that's beautiful man. And the final question, Billy, what's your definition of greatness?

[Billy Carson]

Wow. Greatness too. I think that real true greatness is most likely when somebody really understands that the power to save themselves is within themselves. Like there's nobody coming to save you. When I came to that realization, my whole life shifted. Everything shifted in my life. And I think that a lot of people are waiting for this magical thing to come and just bail them out instead of analyzing the problem and then focusing on what solutions can begin to solve this problem, whatever that problem is, and being a part of that solution. And if you aren't, you can't be part of solution. Find someone that's part of that solution and collaborate with them.

[Lewis Howes]

Yeah, I hope you enjoyed today's episode.

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