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How To Manifest ABUNDANCE With The Universal Laws For WEALTH | David Ghiyam
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In this transformative conversation, spiritual teacher and billion-dollar brand co-founder David Ghiyam reveals the profound connection between consciousness and financial abundance. After spending 15 years making no money while dedicating himself to spiritual service, David underwent a remarkable transformation in his relationship with wealth. Through his deep understanding of Kabbalah wisdom, he shares how our belief systems directly impact our ability to manifest and maintain financial prosperity. David's journey from spiritual teacher to successful entrepreneur offers powerful insights into how anyone can expand their "spiritual vessel" to receive greater abundance while maintaining their core values and purpose.
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Lewis Howes
My friend, welcome back to another episode on the School of Greatness with a standout guest in 2024. In fact, his episode got over a million views on our YouTube and over half a million plays on Apple Podcasts in just the first couple months and I brought him back. His name is David Guillaume and in this episode we're diving deep on the topic of money, specifically manifesting the money you want in your life. And get ready. This is a masterclass, so I want you to have a pen and paper out and take notes. And please share this with a friend that you want to see become financially free in 2025 and beyond. If you care about your friends, your family, you know, anyone, your spouse, whatever it might be, copy and paste the link to this from either Apple Podcast or Spotify or wherever you're listening, text it to them right now and say, hey, let's work on this together because I want you to manifest more money and I want to see you thrive and succeed. Text them that link right now and ask them, hey, what's your biggest takeaway from this episode? What did you learn? What is the strategy around manifesting money that you saw differently than I saw? And make sure to follow this show. If you've been sent this episode, make sure to click the follow button on Apple Podcast or Spotify and leave us a review with your biggest takeaway on what you learned in this episode. In this episode, David talks about how your beliefs about receiving wealth directly impact your ability to manifest and maintain financial abundance. So if your beliefs around money are, you know, wealthy people are mean and negative and stingy or you have to have some type of skill or I had to be born in some, you know, home or environment or country in order to make money. Whatever your beliefs are, they might be directly blocking your ability to manifest or maintain financial abundance because some people have made a lot of money, but then they lose it quickly because their beliefs bring them back down. He also shares profound mindset. Shift around deservingness and abundance transformed his financial reality when he started to learn this ability of deservingness. Because for 15 years he was making no money, he was living in service, in spiritual service. And he started to shift this to create financial abundance. Now he's got a massive billion dollar brand that he is the co founder of after nearly 15 years of having no money. And it's crazy how he was able to shift his mindset from just service to a spiritual platform to okay, I want to convert this into financial abundance. And what makes this conversation particularly fascinating is David's unique perspective on how our relationship with money is deeply intertwined with our spiritual vessel and our belief system. And if you haven't heard yet, I have a brand new book called Make Money, Create Financial Freedom and Live a Richer Life. You can get it right now. The link is in my bio here on Apple or Spotify or in the description or you can go to Lewishouse.com easy. It'll take you right to Amazon to pre order or get your copy. As this book is coming out very soon. I want you to get a copy because it's going to teach you how to understand your money history, your money personality style, and how this directly correlates to your money belief system. And if you're looking to create financial peace and financial abundance in 2025 and beyond, then I want you to pre order a copy of this book, Make Money Easy. Again, the link is right here in the description on Apple or Spotify or wherever you're listening. And get this book because it's going to give you the frameworks, the teaching and the process to create harmony with your money so you can have financial peace and abundance in the future. Make sure to get your copy right now and I'm so excited about this episode. So without further ado, let's dive in with the one and only David Guillaume.
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Lewis Howes
Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. I'm excited for today's guest because we are talking about a topic that so many people want to know about. I'm here with David Guillaume, who is a spiritual teacher. And for many years you made no money. And in the last 10 years, you transformed your mindset and your beliefs around how you can be of service in the world, but also manifest the money you want and believe you're deserving of having. And you've built a billion dollar brand with your co founder, Mary Ruth. And today I want to talk about how people can manifest money, how they can transform their beliefs into creating abundance in their life around money. That's what this is going to be out. And the first thing I want to ask you because you have a very interesting story, from having no money and dedicating your life to being of service spiritually to then also doing that while building a business. And so you kind of had a limiting belief yourself of like, I'm not supposed to make money or if I want to be a good person, I just have to serve and I have to donate my time and my money and I'm going to live poor, essentially. Then something flipped. You got married, started having kids, and you realized, oh, I have to show up and be responsible in other areas of my life. And you transform that kind of broke mindset into an abundance mindset. What has been the exact formula, spiritually that you have used to attract and manifest more money in your life?
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Mary Ruth
Well, yeah, just to have the background for people in the transition I went through, because I think it could be helpful to know when I was 14, I made my first million dollars simply by having a lot of passion and energy. School was boring for me and I started to look into the stock market, learn about it, got a little bit of money, and it worked out great in those six months. It took six months to make that million.
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Lewis Howes
That's crazy.
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Mary Ruth
Yeah, it was a crazy time because.
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Lewis Howes
Your parents gave you the money to.
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Mary Ruth
Parents always believed in me because they knew I was a smart kid. They knew that I had certain desires and it was play money. It was like probably 20, $30,000. Here you go. But it manifested into a million dollars.
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Lewis Howes
$20,000 into a million in six months.
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Mary Ruth
It was also a time when the market was doing well. So I give credit to the market also. But, yes, it exploded. And I also think spiritually, my soul went through that process, because Kabbalah explains this, that your soul goes through a process to ultimately help you become the most perfect version of yourself so that you can build the vessel to receive everything that's meant for you. And I, looking back, realized that I needed to go through a process of having that kind of money at a young age in order for me to see the things that I needed to change about myself. The limited beliefs I had to work on, which also set me up for the next part of the story, which I'm going to say. So I. I made that money. And I realized that was the first point. I realized this isn't making me actually happy. And if anything, it was causing me to have more addictive behavior, which got me into gambling, poker. Fun fact that I've probably told nobody that I'm telling you now. I'm actually banned from 16 different casinos in Nevada.
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David Guillaume
What?
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Mary Ruth
Because at a young age, I used to just walk into these casinos and start playing, and then at one point they're like, hey, you're underage. It was a whole thing. This was like my life as a teenager. However, I did really well in school. I was always a straight A kid, perfect scores on my testing, and I took a lot of college credits because I just wanted to run through it. I found Kabbalah at 15. I'm like, wow, this spiritualism is explaining the secrets of the world. And if I learn Kabbalah, I will learn to have everything.
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Lewis Howes
Because you weren't happy at the time you're making money, but you weren't happy, right?
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Mary Ruth
And my uncle, who did study Kabbalah, recognized this in me and said, hey, come learn some spirituality. I thought it was religion at first. I was like, I don't want to touch that. But he's like, no, it's spiritual wisdom, and you're going to love it. So I went to one seminar. I was 15, and everyone else in the room was like, maybe 30, 40, 50. But I saw it. Like, I saw and felt the truth of what was being said. I asked a thousand annoying questions. Everything was answered. And I said, well, I want to learn more about this. My mentality is also anything I'm passionate about. I go all in to an extreme, which is also another business lesson that we can talk about. Because I've also learned if you don't manifest something fully till its End, even if it's the wrong thing, you will have never finished that process, learned its wisdom, and achieved a level of certainty. So certainty is so powerful. So I'm going to save this lesson in a tangent. Certainty is so powerful that you should do everything in your power to achieve this consciousness. And the greatest way to achieve certainty is to finish something. So when you finish something, you either see it makes you happy, blessed and successful, or you see that it was the wrong thing, but you have certainty. What a lot of people do is they assume the future.
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Lewis Howes
They dream also about a lot of different things, like, oh, I want to do this, or I want to do this project, I want to try this thing. They have all these different passions and ideas, and then I'll do any of them.
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Mary Ruth
Correct, correct. Because they're listening to everyone else's certainty. Your mom tells you, hey, this isn't going to be good for you. So you're living off of her certainty. It's not yours. In the Kabbalah, we call that actually the bread of shame, meaning when I'm not the cause of my life, I have not earned spiritually a vessel to receive abundance. I'm borrowing everyone else's vessel. I'm borrowing other people's opinions. I'm living vicariously through everyone else's life. This is actually the greatest cause of sadness and shame and sorrow. And people usually wake up 10, 20, 30, 40 years later realizing, I live somebody else's life and I listen to people because I'm a people pleaser. I have my own self worth issues, so on and so forth. So I would say, like right now, you should know that the greatest thing you can do for yourself is to try things and to go all the way with them. Someone asked me, how do I know this relationship is the right one? I said, the only way you're going to know is to go all in at that stage that you're in. Because everyone's thinking, I only want to go all in if I'm meant to marry that person. I'm not saying when you're just dating someone and you don't know. I'm saying when you're kind of like, you invested a lot of time and you're wondering, what do I do here? You're kind of in a limbo. Whenever you're stuck, just go all the way. Because you'll either realize it was meant to be or not, and then you'll get certainty. And once you have certainty, your vessel now expands and more light can come in, more of the universal energy of creation comes in and it opens a new door for you. However, a lot of people are trying to always anticipate what the future is going to look like. And so they're like, well, what's going to happen when I go all in? How am I going to know? These questions we cannot ask. We must go all in. The door will open, the wisdom will be revealed, and the clarity will come. So then, going back to my life, I started to study Kabbalah. It was unbelievable. I went all in, graduated College, and at 20, I said, I'm going to do this for no money for a nonprofit, traveled the world, gave thousands of seminars, did coaching, met the most amazing people in the world, learned how they were living their lives, learned how Fortune 500 CEOs lived their life. I learned founders, learned celebrities. Celebrities, yeah. There was a big celebrity period, early 2000s, that, that I was part of. And I got to witness their lives. I got to witness the pain, I got to witness what fame did to them. I got to witness what their children were going through, which was really painful. I got to witness almost. There was this one very wealthy family, a very well known family, and they called it the curse of the last name of the family without saying who they were. Saying there's like a curse almost every year because there was so much money and wealth passed down is really interesting. And they asked me, he asked me, he was probably 40 years old at the time, a billionaire, but wealth that was passed down generationally. Many movies made about passed down from his parents, his parents, his grandparents, his grandparents. It's a very well known, generationally wealthy family. And he said, you know, I feel like my family has a curse because in every generation, this problem after problem, children who go through difficulties and sickness, mental illness and all these things, and drug overdose or whatever, drugs was a big one too. So he said, what's going on spiritually? When he learned Kabbalah, he learned that light and vessel have to match up, meaning we all want a lot of energy, but we're not being conscious of the vessel that holds that energy. For example, if I have a 60 watt bulb, I can only hold 60 watts of energy. If I try to funnel in 1000 watts of energy, I'm going to have a short circuit, I'm going to have an explosion. Interestingly, this explosion will be a flash of light that's beautiful, but then there's.
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Lewis Howes
Darkness right after and you can't use it again.
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Mary Ruth
And you can't use it again. So this is how most people live their lives. No One taught us how to expand the vessel. No one taught us, how do I get from a 60 watt bulb to a thousand watt bulb? Everyone out there, including the best marketers, they're trying to tell you, hey, here's 1,000 watts of energy. You should take this into your vessel. You're going to love this product, you're going to love this food, you're going to love this relationship. Look at all these beautiful models. There's pornography, there's all of these unrealistic energies. And when you bring it into your vessel, you short circuit it. Someone asked me once, is there a problem if I do cocaine, if I do drugs? This is a question I get all the time.
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Lewis Howes
Really?
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Mary Ruth
Yeah. And they say the drugs bad. In Kabbalah, we learn there's no such thing as good or bad. It's light and vessel energy. And the capacity to hold that energy.
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Lewis Howes
Is it serving your vessels? Should be the question.
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Mary Ruth
That is the question. Because if you go good, bad, you're going to destroy this planet. You're going to destroy each other. Because we're all like, you're good, you're.
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Lewis Howes
Bad, you're in judgment.
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Mary Ruth
You're in judgment mode.
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Lewis Howes
And so every question should be asking yourself, is this act, is this thought, is this relationship in service to my vessel, bringing more light into the world?
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Mary Ruth
Beautiful. Is this in service to my vessel so that I can receive and manifest and harness the light that is already there waiting to come in?
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Lewis Howes
So what is the biggest thing that blocks people from expanding their capacity to attract and manifest more money?
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Mary Ruth
Every vessel has components that make up that vessel. So the most important part of you that makes your vessel is your belief system about receiving. I gave this example once before. I had someone who I knew, who I coached, and every time he would build a company very easily, he could scale it to about $10 million of revenue. And every time you hit that 10 million mark, there would be problems and there would be chaos. Either employees, issues with employees, There would be issues legally, there'd be issues with the technology. There would be issues that kind of cause everything to be stuck. Several companies he built, each time, the ability to scale to 10 million was effortless. But that moment of 10 million, something would happen. When he started to study Cabal, he asked me, what's going on spiritually. It's a great question to always ask. And what we discovered is he has a belief system that anything over 10 million, for whatever reason, is something that he does not deserve, or it's something that will be too much responsibility, will be something that will cause too much chaos. And so what he does subconsciously is sabotage his company at that mark. Now, let's expand upon that how any part of any one of us who is experiencing chaos in any part of our lives, relationships, in health and in business, especially around manifesting money, the chaos comes at the moment. My belief system about receiving is limited at that moment because we are such powerful manifestors. All of us are manifesting all day long. Whatever you're experiencing in your life, whatever you see is what you are manifesting at that moment through your thoughts, your words, your actions, your desires. This is the world you're manifesting. So it's not about complaining why isn't this happening? Or why isn't this person doing something for me? You are creating this reality at this moment. So if there's 20% of you that does not want to be wealthier, if there's 20% of you that does not want to be in a relationship because you're afraid it's going to control you, or you're afraid they're going to hurt you, or you're afraid that you're going to lose your freedom because you want to be with more people, that 20% is going to clash with the 80% of you that does want love, the 80% of you that does want success. So your worst enemy becomes yourself.
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Lewis Howes
Because a lot of people watching and listening right now are saying to themselves, of course I want more money. Right? Of course I want to make more money. That might be only a percentage of their beliefs or their desires, but you're telling me that there's other beliefs that don't support that desire. Correct.
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Mary Ruth
There's either a limited belief or a competing belief. A limited belief would be, I don't deserve this money. A competing belief would be, you know, I want this success and prosperity. I feel my soul is meant for it. We feel on the soul level, I'm meant to be successful. And then there's another belief that says, if I am wealthy, I will be sad because I saw other wealthy people become sad. One of the beliefs I had in the first 10 years, from the age of 20 to actually 32, where I had no money whatsoever and my life was dedicated to just helping other people, which I thought was a noble thing. And it was, and it helped a lot of people. But why didn't I receive wealth? Why didn't the creator give me wealth? Because I saw in the first five years dealing with celebrities and very successful.
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Lewis Howes
People, you saw that they were broken.
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Mary Ruth
That wealth broke them. Yes, that wealth, especially generational wealth, especially wealth that was not fully earned, caused a level of shame. Drug use, depression, suicide. And I saw these families literally fall apart. And so it was.
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Lewis Howes
You're like. You're like, I don't want that.
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Mary Ruth
Subconsciously.
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Lewis Howes
You're like, I don't want. I want peace. I want harmony. I want, you know, calm in my life. I want to feel healthy.
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Mary Ruth
Children.
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Lewis Howes
Yeah, exactly.
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Mary Ruth
Now, I didn't really realize it at the time, but later on I saw that I was always living kind of like this immigrant consciousness. And usually people who are immigrants, like my generation before me was there's a mentality of scarcity. There's a mentality of you have to protect everything. Like, I was the guy that kept turning off the air conditioning all day long, even after I had money, because I was so afraid, always of going broke. That's funny. So there's all of these, like, complicated, either generational or things you saw, experienced, or felt, or you brought from past life that is causing you to have limited beliefs or competing beliefs around what you can receive. Once I realized that having money doesn't mean having a broken family, having money actually is a blessing and you can have it all, I kept telling myself that you can have it all. You can have amazing children, healthy children, and have success and prosperity. And I started to reprogram my belief system about that. Then the gates opened immediately and the energy comes in. So I would tell everybody listening, hey, if there's an area you're stuck, it always starts with one thing. Your belief about what would happen if we wasn't stuck. So there is some part of you that actually likes, enjoys, appreciates, or feels comfortable with the current situation.
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Lewis Howes
So what's the biggest belief, then that holds people back from making more money?
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Mary Ruth
Let's go through the list. It has to be painful. It has to be a struggle. I have to suffer to make money. If you believe that to be true, then your soul is going to make a different calculus, which is, do I want to suffer or not? Your soul is going to say, no, I don't want to suffer. So what you're going to do that day is not manifest the reality of wealth. So this is like, probably the biggest belief system I see. You must suffer to be successful. That's number one. Another one would be, I am not deserving of it. For whatever reason, I'm not deserving of it. Why? Because maybe something shameful I did in my past. Maybe because I don't want to make the people around me feel uncomfortable. For example, there's one woman who told me she realized after studying Kabbalah that she's not married at the age of like 35 because her 37 year old sister is not married. So she was subconsciously sabotaging meaning men because she didn't want to embarrass her sister. It was such a subconscious thing.
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Lewis Howes
She didn't want to make her sister feel bad that she was married and happy and she's older and she's not married.
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Mary Ruth
Correct. Interesting. And it was such a subconscious thing. But that little bit of a subconscious desire will sabotage the process and men will feel that when they approach her. So in business it's very much the same thing. We have these subconscious desires and feelings and relationship with money. We might think money is bad, we might think money is evil. We might look at like the 1% and say, look at what they're doing. We might look at people who don't pay their taxes or have like such a complicated view of money, but it's shaping and forming our belief system and it's causing all these blockages. Because the Creator wants you to receive endlessly. Because the Creator is endless, created a vessel to receive endlessly. We are the only ones that are limiting it. This energy of abundance has already been given since the time of creation and it has your name on it. There's an amount of wealth that belongs to you. It might be held right now by somebody else holding it for you until your vessel is ready.
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Lewis Howes
And what happens if people make money before they're ready for the money to come?
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Mary Ruth
What happens if someone makes money before they're ready for the money to come? So let's say, for example, a good example of that would be theft. Why does the Bible say someone should not steal? Is it wrong? Is it moral? Is it religiously an issue? Kabbalists say no, a person should not steal for one reason. When you steal something, you are taking the energy of it. Without the vessel, you did not earn that money. So you don't have a spiritual vessel for it. So this money that you took is basically like bringing a thousand watts of energy into a 60 watt bulb. It will cause chaos for you. That's the only reason. Not because I don't steal, not because society would like shame me or I could go to jail. That's how a lot of people think. Because if there were no laws and nobody knew and you could just take whatever you want, how many people would do it? A lot of people would do it. But if I knew I could steal and nobody would know about it. I know energetically I'm taking energy but I don't have the vessel to hold it and it's going to cause me chaos. So actually I don't want to ever bring energy that does not belong to me. And here's something else that's really powerful. One of the things I always ask the Creator is I only want the wealth that is meant for me. This year I do not want a penny more. I do not want a penny less because both will cause chaos. If I try to take wealth from someone else or someplace else that does not belong to me was not part of my vessel, then I have an overflow of energy and I'll have chaos. If I do not take what is mine, I take less. Then I'm going against the thought of creation which is the Creator wants me to be fulfilled. In both cases this is a short circuit so we have to all align and stop trying to just make things happen or make business happen or make wealth happen and connect to wait a minute. What is actually meant for me.
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David Guillaume
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Mary Ruth
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Lewis Howes
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Mary Ruth
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Lewis Howes
Do you remember the moment where you went from scarcity to abundance around money for yourself? Do you remember being like, oh, I'm no longer, I don't know, sleeping on couches. Like for me it was like I was sleeping on couches even when I made money.
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Mary Ruth
Yeah.
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Lewis Howes
And I was. I didn't want to pay for hotels. I was like taking the bus as opposed to my plane. I was sitting in middle seats in the back. Still the cheapest seat I could get. Even though I was making money, I was kind of scared to spend it, to invest it in myself or my comforts or whatever it might be. And then I remember it started to switch where I was like, oh okay, I have money in the bank. I can get like a nice business class ticket if I want to. Even though it didn't make sense financially, I was like, why am I spending $800 when I can spend $200 and get to the same place?
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Mary Ruth
Yes, right. Why?
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Lewis Howes
It didn't make sense in my kind of like late 20s, early 30s?
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Mary Ruth
Yes.
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Lewis Howes
Why am I spending $1,000 on this when I could buy a new iPhone for this. And a hotel room doesn't make sense. I can just sleep on someone's couch. It was still kind of limiting me from investing or spending for my benefit and my comfort.
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Mary Ruth
The greatest way to break a limited belief around receiving abundance is to spend time with people who have already broken it. And the person that I married 13 years ago, Mary Ruth, she. I learned she did not have this belief. And the first time I saw it.
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Lewis Howes
Which belief?
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Mary Ruth
That Scarcity belief. Scarcity belief.
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Lewis Howes
She didn't have it.
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Mary Ruth
She did not have it. And I'll tell you the first example of it. When we were in debt, and I shared this in the last podcast, we were in debt and we had no money, six months behind in rent and like, like, literally, like sleeping on the floor, no income, debt, all these things. She came to me and said, I want to start nutrition. And I said, what do you mean we're starting nutrition? She's like, I love health and wellness. I'm going to leave being a real estate agent, which she was doing well, she'll make 30, 40,000amonth in just enough to pay off the debt payments that we had that she inherited from her family after the deaths of her brother and father and her mom getting sick. So she's like, I'm going to leave my career making 34,000amonth. I'm going to do nutrition consulting. I said. I said, that is. I said, I get that's your passion, but I mean, this is absurd. She's like, no, don't worry. I have complete certainty it's going to work out. So she created a program for $3,000. And then she just basically told everybody, I'm going to give you one free session for an hour, and if you like it, sign up for my program. She had 11 sessions a day. She always signed up one person, and boom, boom, boom. And that was the genesis of Mary Earth Organics, because it actually started as a health and wellness coaching program. Then when she became fully booked, it became a video program. And then when that was kind of like realizing there's a limit there, we created a product, and then we changed the name of the company from Million Dollar Lunchbox to Mary With Organics. That was the original name of the. She called it Million Dollar Lunchbox because she had this belief that if you want to be very successful in life, you should always carry a lunchbox around so you always have the food that you need, then you'll have the energy you need. And you'll have the consciousness you need so you can manifest something.
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Lewis Howes
That's interesting.
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Mary Ruth
Cute name, right? So then the second thing she did a year later, she's like, well, we still had no money. She's like, I'm going to go get an office. We didn't have wework back then. It was Regis. I said, you need to get an office. She's like, yeah, it's $5,000 a month and I'm just going to go get it. Because once we get the office, the energy will open up and the business will go to its next level. I said, that's ridiculous. And she said, I'm going to go do it. And she went and did that. And then the next thing she said is, we're going to move to LA because that's closer to our factory. And I said, we don't have the money for that. She's like, don't worry, I got a loan. I'm like, you got a loan? She's like, yeah, I got a loan for 22%. I said, you got a high interest loan to move us to la. We got to think that way. We just got to go. She took the loan, she moved the family, and then that was one of the best things that happened. And then she kept doing things over and over. She's like, we're going to get you a nice car. I said, we can't afford a nice car. She's like, I need you to be comfortable. I need you to be focused. I need you to not have something that's going to break down because I need you to be that way.
- [33:22]
Lewis Howes
So you're the scarcity mindset.
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Mary Ruth
I was completely the scarcity mindset.
- [33:25]
Lewis Howes
She was abundant mindset always.
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Mary Ruth
So she always. And the lesson here is, obviously spend time with people who don't have it. You know, who your romantic partner is, who your friends are. You are inheriting their belief systems. At every moment, every moment you spend with them, you're inheriting it. I've become, and I know you're the same way I have become so sensitive to. If I spend 20 minutes with somebody, I'm learning that I am taking on their vessel. And so we have to be extra cautious of who we're spending time with and who we depend on for energy. Because the energy transfer happens on a soul level when you depend on someone. Because I was coaching all day long, meeting people who had challenges and problems, and people are like, well, aren't you inheriting their belief systems and vessels? Only when you depend on them, meaning a friend A romantic partner, a client that you absolutely need for your wealth or your.
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Lewis Howes
That's livelihood.
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Mary Ruth
Yeah, livelihood. You never want to be in a position when you need someone because then you begin to inherit their negativity and inherit their belief systems. So I've learned, like when I spend time with you or when I spend time with other people who are successful financially or even a successful father or a successful. Like someone who's really good at fathering, I'll spend time with them and my vessel will expand, my empathy for my children will expand. My belief system of love will improve. And it's so interesting because we're. Now science is showing us that when you kiss someone, you inherit their microbiome. Right. So your gut changes, your whole body chemistry changes. Isn't that interesting?
- [35:08]
Lewis Howes
So it's almost like you're taking on the belief system and the energy of a person when you kiss them.
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Mary Ruth
That is true, too. So people don't understand spiritually the moment you kiss someone, because Kabbalah explains that the breath is a platform for the soul. So the breath and the soul are intertwined. And so when you kiss someone and the breath is exchanged, the souls begin to intermingle, which means the belief systems begin to intermingle, which means the desires begin to intermingle, and you begin to inherit the essence of who they are. So you could kiss a random person and then all of a sudden be angry for the next two hours and not know why.
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Lewis Howes
Interesting.
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Mary Ruth
You've kind of taken upon a little bit of their generational trauma. They're what we call tikkun, their soul's correction, and it stays and it goes, and there's ways to remove it. But every sexual partner we've ever had, we are inheriting a piece of who they are, and they're inheriting a piece of ours, which is very fascinating.
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Lewis Howes
Wow.
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Mary Ruth
So, yeah. So on a physical level, we're interchanging belief systems and desires, but we're also doing it on a spiritual level. So that's the. Spend time with people who are successful.
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Lewis Howes
Who have an abundance mindset. Who. Yeah. And so when was the moment for you then? Because it sounds like for you, you were questioning her abundance mindset. You were like, we can't do this. Or why are we doing this? It's too much money. Or we can't move, we can't invest in this. So when was the moment you started to switch your belief system around money? Because it sounds like you had it around friends and family and service and health. But when did you say, oh, I'm deserving of wealth.
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Mary Ruth
35. So I'm 40 now. Only at 35 did I finally realize this is despite 15 years of Kabbalah, despite thousands and thousands of teaching, when it's your issue, it's never that easy. When it's your ego, your soul's correction, it takes time. And we have to be empathetic to that because I think a lot of times people judge, you know, can a doctor get sick? Sure. Can a comedian be depressed? Absolutely. Can a spiritual leader or a thought leader or a speaker go through a tough time and not know how to break free for a long time? Absolutely, yes. Because when it's you, it's very different. When it's somebody else, we're channels. But for ourselves, we have to actually earn that gateway to be open. So it was about five years ago when I was 35, I realized I just decided to take the plunge and stop doing everything I did that was limiting me, really. I remember the day when one of my friends called me and said, there's a seminar down in San Diego. I want you to come with me. I said, all right, well, that's a three hour drive. What's it cost? And he's like, It's $10,000 for the day. I said, $10,000? Why would I pay $10,000 for a one day center? It sounds like it's too much money.
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Lewis Howes
What was the seminar? I'm curious. You tell me.
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Mary Ruth
It was something around business.
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Lewis Howes
Business seminar.
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Mary Ruth
It was like an E Comm Amazon thing because we had just started the company and we're big on Amazon.
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Lewis Howes
Yeah. So we're trying to figure out how to master this and.
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Mary Ruth
Yeah, yeah, it was a seminar, like how to master Amazon, right? Yeah. And he said to me, come. I said, I said to him, I.
- [38:12]
Lewis Howes
Said, look, it's too much money away. It's a whole day.
- [38:15]
Mary Ruth
That whole calculation. He looked at me and he said, look, you know this better than I do. If you learn one thing that inspires you, that's worth to your company hundreds of thousands of dollars, do you know that you're going to learn one thing? I said, absolutely. I'm going to learn probably 40 things. He's like, so what's the calculus here? Signed up right away. And I went, and what's interesting is within the first hour I got an idea that was so amazing I left the seminar. I actually didn't stay for the rest of the seven hours.
- [38:45]
Lewis Howes
I need to go do this now.
- [38:46]
Mary Ruth
I need to go do this now because we can talk about this either in this episode or the next, one of the things I have learned over time is when that idea comes, I have to manifest it in 24 hours.
- [38:57]
Lewis Howes
Otherwise, it's gone.
- [38:58]
Mary Ruth
It's gone energetically. The negative side comes in, momentum is gone. And so if I can push it, like, without any space, without any laziness, without any doubt, just invest as much time and energy in those first 24 hours, that's the seed level. You create a spiritual flywheel energetically, that just breaks open the doors. And things manifest when you take time. Once the Creator gives you an idea and you take time and you put it off and you. All of a sudden, space comes in, time comes in. These are all qualities, not of the light, of the Creator, but of this physical world. And now you have left the world of miracles. You've left the world of manifestation. You're entered into the world of what we call the tree of knowledge and logic, which is just up and down, chaos, darkness, pain, and suffering.
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Lewis Howes
Wow. So five years ago, it started to switch.
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Mary Ruth
It started to switch. And then once that switched, every decision I made was this as a function of my time. Is it going to be, Is this worth my time to manifest more or not? So that was the first calculus I used.
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Lewis Howes
So that was the question you would.
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Mary Ruth
Ask yourself all the time.
- [40:10]
Lewis Howes
Say it again.
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Mary Ruth
Is this going to be worth it as a function of my time? Because what is.
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Lewis Howes
How do you know?
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Mary Ruth
Well, what is the biggest mistake all founders make? I want to say mistake, but limitation that all founders have once they build a company that's doing well, the ability to delegate, because all of us, myself included, the first thought we have, which is a limited belief. Who's going to do this better than me? I don't trust someone else to give it the love, the care, the. This belief system will make you attract employees who sabotage as well. But I met a guy, he had 20 employees when I had only two. And he said to me, I have 20. And since I hired these right people, the best things happen, and they're doing it better than I am. I said, they're doing it better than you are. I can't imagine hiring somebody that's going to do something better than I'm, like, look how much care and love. Like, no one's going to do it better than the founder. So, David, it's a limited belief. He said, you need to believe from this moment, there are people who can do it better than you. I said, done. He gave me his spiritual microbiome at that moment. It's a belief System. I said, I'm going to believe this. Wow. I use the mantra over and over again. I pray to the Creator to give me the instill in me this consciousness. So there's like a little Kabbalah meditation that I do over and over again. And then I told myself, there is somebody out there who's going to be better at this than I am. And I kid you not, if you want to know what happened right after that, we started to need help because we had a kid and we needed somebody to help. So we called a company and they said, look, there's people who come part time and wash your dishes. It was like, it's called Run Around Betty or something. So this girl comes, she's like 26 years old. She comes to our house. She's just cleaning dishes and just helping around the house. And then I walk in. Mary Ruth is. Everybody's there. And I'm like, what's your name? She said, her name. I said, what did you do before this? You're doing dishes now? She said, oh, I was a project manager at a big company. I said, you're a project manager at a big company and you're washing dishes now? She's like, yeah, I got so burned out. I said, you know what? I just want to relax. I just do things that are fun. I said, okay. So we watched her for a couple weeks just come in. She did obviously the best job you can imagine. Cleaning the house, organizing things. I said to Meredith, I said, she's unbelievable. Like, she became our first employee in the company. Wow. And three years later, she became the COO of our company.
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Lewis Howes
No way.
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Mary Ruth
Yeah.
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Lewis Howes
That's cool.
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Mary Ruth
She pretty much ran the whole company. Wow. Crazy. And she did it phenomenally for those years. Right? And it was all after just changing the belief system that you. How do we manifest such a thing? She came through a dishwashing service, who then ended up becoming a C level executive at a unicorn brand. And to see that, to watch that, realizing that all the limitations we have in our company always come from the consciousness of the founder. If I look at any company and I look at your org chart and I sit and I interview your executives, your vice presidents, your managers, I will learn everything about you. Even if I never met you. Each person will be a fraction of who you are. The part of you that is anxious will be one C level. The part of you that is excited and thinks unlimited, there'll be another department executive. You can see the amalgamation of a person's consciousness spread out amongst their executives, their Directors, their managers, so on and so forth. So how powerful this is, that as founders, we need to spiritually work on ourselves, expand our consciousness, remove our limited beliefs, work on our fears, go in a deep soul level, clean it all out. And it's amazing. Either the employees will elevate to that, or the employee will leave like they'll just quit.
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Lewis Howes
Yeah.
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Mary Ruth
And then the new energy comes in.
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Lewis Howes
So what are the things you say to yourself on a daily basis then? Either the prayers or mantras or the thoughts or the internal things that you say, the external things you say to keep you in an abundance mindset. When things go wrong, when you made an investment in something and it doesn't pay off, when you hired someone and they weren't the right fit, when whatever. Whatever might be going wrong or something that's a breakdown, you're like, oh, I spent this money and I lost the money. What's the mantra? To keep you on track of either the vibration or frequency of abundance. Instead of saying, I made a mistake or, what a dumb thing. Why did I do that? That was stupid.
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Mary Ruth
Pause. What a pleasure. I say this mantra all the time. I pause. What do I pause? I pause. The part of me that wants to fix the problem and look for some form of instant gratification to numb my pain or I need certainty about something. Right. So your question was, what do I say to myself? Or what is my mantra or my affirmation? When something goes wrong, that's different than when everything's going right. So when something goes wrong, I feel pain on a soul level, on a body level.
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Lewis Howes
Where do you feel it? Throat, chest, Stomach.
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Mary Ruth
I usually feel it in my stomach.
- [45:22]
Lewis Howes
Head.
- [45:23]
Mary Ruth
I feel it in my stomach. I feel it in my neck and my shoulders. And the famous example, I've shared this before is when my CFO called me one day. I remember where I was, because when there was some traumatic thing that happens, you always remember where you are. I was in my basement of my home. He calls in the morning and said, we have a problem. I said, what's the problem? And he said, we have been a victim of wire fraud. I said, okay, what does that mean? He said, well, we just lost $1.1 million. I said, what happened? He's like, well, somebody hacked our system, spoofed an email, pretended to be one of our manufacturers, requested an invoice to be paid, and changed the bank account. He said, well, we have protocols. You always call to confirm when a bank change has been made. He said, I know I did not do that. Oh, I Said, okay, now, every emotion.
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Lewis Howes
You can imagine, 1.1 million taken from.
- [46:26]
Mary Ruth
You, stolen, disappeared into the ethereum. Oh, my gosh. I. What were the feelings I felt? Anger, frustration, rage, fear. Like, are we going to make our month? Like, how is this going to affect our valuation? Like, there was a thousand things running through my mind. Now, if I didn't know Kabbalah and I didn't know spirituality at that moment, what would I have done? I would have screamed at him. I would say, call the FBI, call our lawyers. We need to fix this problem immediately. Like, I would go off, I would go off on my kids, I would go off on Mary Ruth. I would go off in the whole day. I would be in a bad mood. Now, I felt all of those emotions and I was in a horrible mood at that moment. And then I remembered, this test has come from the Creator. And I know something. One thing Kabbalah has taught me, every time you desire to go to your next level, and the months before, the business was doing well, but it wasn't doing as well as I wanted. And I started to walk in the streets of Los Angeles and pray to the Creator into the universe and say, show me how to expand my vessel. See, prayer is not God. You need to change. You need to stop doing what you're doing and change everything about my situation to make me comfortable. A lot of times, that's what prayer is. It's bribing God.
- [47:48]
Lewis Howes
Give me something, please help me.
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Mary Ruth
Give me more energy because I'm lacking. The Creator said, why are you yelling at me? I've already given all the energy you need to expand the vessel to receive it. So the prayer needs to be, give me the strength to expand my vessel. So I made a prayer that said, what do I need to expand my vessel? What do I need to clean out about my limited beliefs? What limiting beliefs do I even have? Show them to me, reveal them to me. Because I want to get to the next level of the company. And as a co founder, I am the sole person that is limiting this company. Okay? If there's a problem with an employee, if there's a problem with the economy or there's a problem with inflation, or there's a problem with a product that is all a function of my consciousness, nothing else. What? Inflation is my fault? Inflation is an illusion from the point of view. If I believe that I can have everything and I've cleared myself of my negativity and my selfishness and my fears and my soul's correction, inflation can't touch me. The wrong economy or the bad economy can't touch you. No negativity can touch you. You will manifest what your soul is meant to have. Even if 8 billion people try to stop you from it. You will get there. There's this famous meme that showed Elon Musk, I don't think it was 2019, was on the verge of bankruptcy and then five years later he's the wealthiest man in the world, right?
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Lewis Howes
It's like crazy.
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Mary Ruth
It's like, how did he go? Like everybody was against him that time. I don't remember. Like everybody's like they were like selling his stock of the Ponzi scheme. They were shorting him and it was like the pressure and he needed the money. I forgot exactly what the details were, but I remember whatever he did, whatever consciousness, belief system he had, he transcended time and he was able to manifest that reality because most people would buckle into the do you own a business that's ready to Thrive?
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Mary Ruth
That moment in time, Kabbalah taught me this is an illusion. This is a test to expand my vessel. And it's connected and correlated with the prayer I made 30 days ago. I asked the Creator for my next level. I asked for a thousand watts of energy. The creator said, okay, but I see 60 watt bulb. Are you going to be with me here? Because we're about to expand you to a thousand. How do I expand to a thousand? I need to see the parts of me that are limited. Well, how can I see that? I need something to test me. Nothing would test.
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Lewis Howes
I made a breakdown.
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Mary Ruth
I need to be broken down. Temporarily.
- [51:57]
Lewis Howes
Yes. Not forever.
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Mary Ruth
It's not going to be forever. The creator. The creator only wants good. So the illusion of a breakdown is happening so that I see the parts of me that are dormant, that I've stuffed down, that I never wanted to look at, so I can cleanse it out and expand my spiritual vessel. More of the wealth in.
- [52:13]
Lewis Howes
What was the part of you that was dirty that you needed to clean out?
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Mary Ruth
Let's see what came out. Blame anger. My control issues came up. My scarcity mindset. Oh, my God, what's going to happen? I remember coming to my Earth. I'm like, this happened. She's like, that sounds horrible. And she went and made a sandwich or something. She's like, I got to go. Talk about this later. And I said, what are you talking about? It was another level of my scarcity mindset. And it was so powerful because I went to your summit of greatness, your summon of greatness. It was my first time I ever met you. And somebody invited me, said, you're going to come to this. And Joe Dispenza was talking. It was the first three hours. And I always wanted to see him, too. And I sat there, and you know what I did? It's the same thing I did once. I heard the one thing you. And he said, then I left. I got it. I like, I got the one thing that opened my mind. And he gave the example. I might butcher it a little bit. He gave the example. He was in New York and he was meeting with some very wealthy person. And he had gone to his office, and it was like the worst Day of his life, and he lost all his money or something, and he was just sitting there, like, having, like, a hamburger or a sandwich.
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Lewis Howes
I don't remember, you know, the wealthy guy. The wealthy guy.
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Mary Ruth
Remember the story?
- [53:24]
Lewis Howes
Yeah, yeah. I can't remember the. The ending, but yes, I remember telling this.
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Mary Ruth
Yes. So. So Joe's like, he lost like, a.
- [53:30]
Lewis Howes
Billion dollars or something crazy. The guy was just like, let's go have lunch and have a sandwich.
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Mary Ruth
Yeah. And he's like, I'm always wealthy. Like, there's no. It was a total illusion that I lost a billion dollars. Like, I am wealth. He said, I am wealth.
- [53:40]
Lewis Howes
I am wealth.
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Mary Ruth
As he's eating a hamburger with, like, ketchup all over his face. Total cool as a cucumber. And I have seen people who, when something happens, they just already know their essence, their energy. Right. The money comes and the money goes, like, in a moment. And reminded me of an example when I was in the Hamptons. I was visiting. Somebody invited me to their beautiful home in the Hamptons. Like, gorgeous. And he was a young guy, like, 38, and he had manifested all this wealth. And he was sitting there and he was having, like, a. Like a soda. And I said to him, I said, you know, I have a question for you. You know, you made all of this money so quickly. Like, do you ever get worried, like, what if you lost it all? What if something happened to the company? Just kind of like, you bought this beautiful home. What if the company didn't do well? He's sitting there, it was making back, wow. And I said, this guy, because he's already there. There's certainty because of that certainty. And he's already like, whether I have the physical money or I don't. I know I'm wealthy, and I know this is my essence, and I know that I am wealth. He will not be tested in this department. You're only tested where you have a weak or limited belief system. So because I had still to cleanse out the scarcity mindset, I needed the money to be stolen.
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Lewis Howes
You needed the money to be stolen?
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Mary Ruth
Stolen. To awaken my scarcity fear so I could cleanse it. You can only cleanse what comes up to the surface.
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Lewis Howes
And so how do you cleanse it, though? You know, when you've had something for so long and some big breakdown happens, how do you. What's the process of cleansing the limiting belief so that you can step into certainty that you are wealthy even if you don't have wealth.
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Mary Ruth
This is the first. First session I teach in my Masterclass. The first thing you need to do in those first few minutes, even seconds, is the most powerful time to transform your soul. It's the reason why your soul came to this world, and it is how you expand your spiritual vessel to let the next level in. What I did is I put the phone down. I said, I'm going to call you right back. Put the phone down. And I'm feeling every negative emotion you can imagine. It's come up to the surface.
- [55:50]
Lewis Howes
I'd be screaming at that point.
- [55:52]
Mary Ruth
I wanted to. I wanted to. And. But my. My. My. My Kabbalah mindset, my spiritual mindset started to kick in a little bit and said, okay, you've been waiting for this moment. We've been waiting for this.
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Lewis Howes
Wow.
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Mary Ruth
We've been waiting. And do you remember you prayed for this 30 minutes.
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Lewis Howes
Oh, my gosh.
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Mary Ruth
And do you remember that really all there is is your consciousness and the way you react to everything? And do you know that this is all an illusion, that if you expand your vessel right now, all that money will come back, plus more? And my consciousness was telling me that, but my body was. My body was like, telling my consciousness, you know, shut the f up.
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Lewis Howes
Yeah, yeah, of course.
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Mary Ruth
This is.
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Lewis Howes
Screw you.
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Mary Ruth
Screw you. And there was this war.
- [56:31]
Lewis Howes
This is the real world. This is not a consciousness world. This is My money is taken.
- [56:36]
Mary Ruth
Exactly. Because it's all nice and spiritual. Yeah, Yeah. I love the Creator. I love the mindset. Oh, yes, I am. Well, that's all great until you're tested and you're tested. Until you're tested. And. And.
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Lewis Howes
Oh, my gosh.
- [56:48]
Mary Ruth
And this war was happening. I was watching it happen, and I said, okay, body, we need to get you under control. So the way I do it is I just come up with the. The mantra that will break the body's limited belief. And I will say it over and over again. And if that doesn't work, I will jog around the room to get my body moving. And eventually what I did is I started to sing out loud, the mantra and dance all around the room like a crazy person. That's what I did. Because I needed to get mind, body, and soul into this. And I was like, I love this. I kept saying, what a pleasure. I love this. This is amazing. I love that I lost a million dollars. This is the most amazing that's ever happened. Creator, I love you. I love. This is perfect. This is the best thing that. I love this. Right? I wish it was more. I said, I wish it was more. That is, you are supposed to by the people think this is not the right thing to do spiritually. When you are in pain, you should say, give me more pain. Why? Because you are now energetically, completely instilling the certainty that pain is good. When you say, give me more pain if you have a headache and you say, my teacher taught me this. His name is Rob Berg. He said, when you have a headache, you ask for more headache. That's how the headache goes away. When you have a toothache, you ask for more toothache. You don't ask for it when things aren't good because then you're actually drawing in that reality.
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Lewis Howes
But when you're, you don't say, man, I'm in a great place. Give me pain right now. No.
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Mary Ruth
Spiritually speaking, no.
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Lewis Howes
You don't want to call in pain.
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Mary Ruth
No. Because then that is feeding your limit, your belief system that you, you don't deserve happiness.
- [58:24]
Lewis Howes
Yeah. Or peace or all these things. Or love.
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Mary Ruth
Correct. But when you're, when the money's been stolen, you say, my money's been stolen. I wish all my money was stolen. When you do that, you're basically feeding the belief system that you have certainty.
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Lewis Howes
It doesn't matter. That's how I get back anyways.
- [58:39]
Mary Ruth
Correct.
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Lewis Howes
I am wealth.
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Mary Ruth
I am wealth. And if this pain needs to happen for my spiritual process, allow it to happen. I trust the Creator. So if it's a million, if it's five minutes, it's 20 million. I, I wish it. I wish for it all to happen the way it needs to.
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Lewis Howes
So don't wish from. Yeah, it's not like, take my whole business, take everything off my back right now. But it's more. I wish that everything needs to happen is happening for me to get to the next level.
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Mary Ruth
I would be okay with it. And I would tell the Creator, I say, look, you took a million, but maybe you wanted to take two, but you didn't think I could handle it. I'm telling you, I can handle it. If I need it to be taken, I can handle it.
- [59:11]
Lewis Howes
If that's what's required of me to get to the next level. Do whatever is necessary.
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Mary Ruth
Isn't the goal the next level?
- [59:17]
Lewis Howes
Wow.
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Mary Ruth
So a person says, I want money. Okay. I want wealth, okay. You will be given the exact specific dynamic you need to expand and build your vessel to get wealth. The only reason you haven't manifested it is because when those opportunities came, you did not transform.
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Lewis Howes
So what is holding people back from transforming then? In order to get what they really want?
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Mary Ruth
Just knowing what we just said that Instead of running away from the pain, running away from the fear, you need to do two things. You need to at that moment, act like God. You need to pause your reactive behavior. Reactive behavior by definition is any thought, word or action which comes from lack or fear in order to connect to instant gratification. You are now opposite the vibration of the Creator and you are now disconnecting from the realm of light and miracles. When you pause and you do not feed that part of you, you starve it. Essentially, this is what transforms it. And then you become in the vibration of the Creator. Yes, instant gratification would have been screaming at my cfo, running around like a maniac trying to fix the problem. For most people, instant gratification is trying to fix the problem right away. But shouldn't you try to fix the problem?
- [60:47]
Lewis Howes
So how did you fix the problem then? Like, what happened?
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Mary Ruth
Well, here's the thing.
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Lewis Howes
So wait, let me rehab this first. Because once this happened, you have all your money, not all your money, but over a million dollars stolen from you. Your whole body takes over and shut down in scarcity mode. And anger and rage and frustration and betrayal and all these different things. You pause. And your spiritual background.
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Mary Ruth
Reminds me that this is an opportunity.
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Lewis Howes
Reminds you this is an opportunity. You start saying in your mind creation. So you're reminding yourself internally, then it's not working, so you're saying it out loud. Then you're walking around, you're moving your body, you're dancing, you're singing, you're shifting your energy and saying the things that thank you so much, Creator. I'm grateful for you. Take more if you need more for me to transform. I appreciate this. I love this. I love you. And I believe that you're creating this for me to become better and get to the next level. Everything that I asked for 30 days ago.
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Mary Ruth
Correct.
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Lewis Howes
And then what happened next?
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Mary Ruth
It took me about 15 to 20 minutes. These types of things used to take me days. Yeah. Took me 15 to 20 minutes to get to a place where I'm like, all right, this is great. I don't care about the million. Like, I had to let go of my attachment of the small vessel.
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Lewis Howes
Yes.
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Mary Ruth
Or the big vessel. You often have to sacrifice the small minded thinking, the small conscious, the small vessel, the universe will always take something away from you in order to break open, to give you the bigger thing. And so once I felt that, then I called my CFO back. I said, hey, call the fbound, call my lawyer, mobilize the team. We're going to have a Discussion about how to fix the problem. You should try to go to fix the problem. Those words that I said would have been the exact same words I would have said 20 minutes prior with anger. But what's the difference? The first scenario, I would have come from the world that disconnected from miracles. In the second scenario, I am now God. Like God. At that moment, I'm on the vibration of God. So now God is part of the meeting. God will be there. The Creator will be there with the FBI. The Creator will be there with. Because I've created a vessel for the Creator. The Creator is everywhere, but only where there's a vessel to reveal him. Because if he was revealed, it would be the bread of shame. It would be not earned. So we asked the Creator to conceal his energy so that we could create a vessel to reveal it. Yes, because if something is revealed without my free will, this is the worst pain that there is. This is why children who are just born to wealthy families have shame and go to drugs, because there's all this energy, but they didn't create it and choose it. And so it overwhelms them, and then it creates more darkness.
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Lewis Howes
Wow.
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Mary Ruth
And so it's the same words, but it's a different consciousness business. And now you want to know how the story ends.
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Lewis Howes
Yes.
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Mary Ruth
So I'm now thinking I'm in the world of miracles. This is it. We're gonna get the money back. Seven days later, CFO calls me and says, okay, I talked with the bank. They tracked where the money was. This is amazing news. He said, yeah, but it's gone.
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Lewis Howes
You can't get it back. Yeah, you can't get back. Yeah.
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Mary Ruth
That was the second test. Because what a lot of people are going to hear this podcast. They're going to be, like, so jazzed up, and they're going to be like, I can't wait to go. Love the pain, certainty, pleasure. Like, what a pleasure. This is great. And they're going to go out there and try what we're talking about. And if the prize is really big, there's going to be actual several levels to this test. So then what's going to happen is you're going to do all this, and then something's going to go completely the opposite of what you wanted, and you're going to be like, this stuff that David and Lewis were talking about is completely.
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Lewis Howes
Doesn't work.
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Mary Ruth
This doesn't work. There is no creator. It becomes. That's the second test. So then when the money didn't hit another level of doubt, another. Another Layer of doubt and scarcity came up. I'm like, oh, my God, what a pleasure. I didn't know that this layer was in there, too. Let's go. So it came up again. I said, by the way, just bring it all out. Like, who lost? Like, so it was another dance.
- [65:03]
Lewis Howes
You're like, I've been broke before. Who cares?
- [65:05]
Mary Ruth
Exactly. I'm like, everything is in the hands of the Creator anyways. And I just want to expand my vessel. Money. No money. Like, if this is expanding me, I want it. Because once I'm expanded, once the vessel has become the proper vessel, it's a guarantee that the energy comes in. Do not ask how, do not ask from where, do not manipulate. Do not look over your shoulder to see if it's coming. Another test is you also have to have certainty. Let go of how it's going to come and when and when. Once you. Because these are all spiritual lessons that Kabbalah explains. Like, I'm giving them, like, piece by piece. Having the certainty of letting go of when and how and from whom, and acknowledging the negativity that comes up and getting excited about it. Like, all of this is the part of building this incredible vessel that you want, you've asked for since your birth. So then that happens. Did we get the money? No, we didn't. But I let it go. I said, you know what? I built the vessel. The energy is going to come. I'm not worried about when. I think it was a month later, we had some miraculous thing happen. Something went viral, like a piece of content. Something happened that, like, lifted sales to a level that we just. We never had broken through before, and a new momentum was created.
- [66:30]
Lewis Howes
This is about five years ago, or is this about.
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Mary Ruth
Oh, this was like, two years ago.
- [66:33]
Lewis Howes
When the money was stolen.
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Mary Ruth
Money was stolen. Wow. Yeah. So. And then I remember, like, we slaughtered the budget at that point. It was like, every year, our company has grown an average of 50 to 60%. And after we broke the 100 million revenue mark, I think, like, four years ago, three years ago, everyone said, hey, companies don't grow at 50% a year. You should look at 20. These are all the limitings. The Harvard grads, all the mathematicians, all my friends, they're like, 20% of what you should aim for. Investors, a lot of PE firms, like, this is the gold standard. Grow 20 revenue and have 20% EBITDA. It's kind of the gold standard for the highest valuation. So they're like, that should be your goal. And I'm like, that should be my goal. Let me consult with my boss. So I went to the creator and I said, I said, you know these very brilliant people are very smart. They keep saying that our budget should be and our goal should be 20%. But what is my soul? What is our soul meant to do? What is married soul meant to do? Like where the founders like what do you feel? And I would go for a walk and I would just keep asking this question. So this question, when I ask it vibrationally, it changes my spiritual vessel and then the answer can come in. Because the universal gps, the Creator already knows past, present and future, knows every possible destiny. That is the greatest consult.
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David Guillaume
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Mary Ruth
Quince.com Lewis to have so and I believe religion, you know, has done so many beautiful things. But I think religion has also made us lose the appreciation for this energy and even cabal. A lot of people are like, well, what is cabal? And they're not sure what it is. And I, Kabbalah is just your relationship with this infinite energy and it's just teaching you how to build a vessel. Forget about religion. Moses, Abraham, Jesus, none of them even know what religion is. You go to Moses and say, are you Jewish? He'd be like, what's Jewish? You go to Jesus and say, are you Christian? Like, what's Christian? You go to Abraham and say, you know, he'd be like, what are you talking about? These were spiritual people who understood the laws and secrets of our Eucharist. They were Kabbalah. They knew how to create a vessel. So they created, they brought down the wisdom of spirituality to the whole world and exists until today. The best selling book of all time is right after make Money Easy is the Bible. Because they encapsulated the spiritual wisdom in the Bible, but it's very coded. If you read the Bible literally, it makes no sense. So the decodification of this book actually reveals all the spiritual wisdom. So going now back to what I was talking about. So I went for one or two hour walk. I do this all the time and I've always learned this is the best two hours. Do not fill your schedule. Walk and talk and ask. Connect to the universal gps. The wisdom will come down and you'll be shown what to do. And I've had a couple major ideas come in those walks that then manifested into $100 million revenue streams which we can talk about also later. But I, on that walk, the, the number kept coming. It's 50 to 60% growth. Like, you should push the team on that. It was such a fight. I went to the board and I was like, you know, I went to the investors, I'm returning executives. I'm like, guys, we can do 50 to 60%. And everyone's hoing and hawing and saying, no, it's not possible. Where is it going to come from? How is it going to happen? Like, there's no pipeline here. And I said, I, look, I don't know, you guys are all smarter than me. But I, I, you know, what do I know? I didn't go to business school. You all went to business school. You have 30, 40 years experience. Oh, I'm just a guy teaching some classes here. But I, I spoke with the big Man. And he said, and he said, It's 50, 60%. So call me a crazy founder. I went to Mary Ruth. Martha is like, listen, if you believe it, I believe it too. In fact, she's like, why can't it be 200%? I said, I agree. So I said, but let's not, let's not, let's not. You know, I don't think the team's ready to hear that. So I went back, and eventually we kept pushing it. I think we agreed to something in the middle. And what happened was, as a goal.
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Lewis Howes
To reaching the next year.
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Mary Ruth
Yes. Yeah. Because we always make the budget few months before the next calendar year.
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Lewis Howes
Last quarter, next year.
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Mary Ruth
Yeah, that's right. So I think we set on, like, maybe 35% or something. So we just closed the year, and it came out to, like, 56% growth, like, literally right in the middle of what the creator had said. And I was at the board meeting, this was two weeks ago, and I looked at all the executives, and I said, all right, guys, what's the budget for next year?
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Lewis Howes
This is. This is now two weeks ago, present time.
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Mary Ruth
Yeah, because we just had 56%. They're like, all right, it's 20% growth. I'm like, guys, are we doing this again? I said, we just had 56%. And so one guy's like, well, we got lucky. I said, what do you mean we got lucky? I said, well, we didn't anticipate TikTok was going to do so well. And TikTok came, and we became one of the number one brands on TikTok. And then I said, well, last year, what happened when we had 60% growth?
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Lewis Howes
Something else.
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Mary Ruth
We got lucky then, too. I said, what happened? He said, something happened at the Whole Foods. One of the competitors ran out of stock. And then all of a sudden, the.
- [73:32]
Lewis Howes
Shelf space opened up.
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Mary Ruth
Shelf space opened up. I said, okay, so what happened the year before? I said, God, for 10 years in a row, grow.
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Lewis Howes
We're getting lucky. Something new. So why can't we do it again next year?
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Mary Ruth
We're getting lucky. And I'm, you know, it's not easy for me to try to bring a spiritual concepts to a board meeting of, like, 15 really smart people. But I, I, I said, and this is kind of like where Meredith and I are just always laughing because together we're such a team, and we have so much respect and love and appreciation, like anything Meredith has ever said, even if I think it's, like, totally a bad idea, and everybody challenges her investors and I have learned in 10 years, if she comes up with it, it is always true. It has always worked out. And so I've learned to trust her, and she's learned to trust me. And that's why we make a great team. And that is why this year, we actually bought back our company. Because we realized that. Because three years ago, we sold a minority stake, and then we said, wait a minute. And they were the best partners. They were such good partners. But we realized if we could take back full control and just put fully our consciousness on the cap table, because whoever's on your cap table, you are dealing with their soul. Correction as well. Every investor karmically, is now tied to your company, and their energy is affecting it.
- [74:54]
Lewis Howes
Wow.
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Mary Ruth
So clean up your cap table. And basically, we told the board this that week, let's go for more. And we're actually currently talking about it. There's still a little bit of a disagreement about where.
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Lewis Howes
Wow. I want to recap this real quick because this is really powerful. We're talking about how to create abundance, financial prosperity, and manifest more wealth. And what I'm hearing you say, and what we've talked about in a few different episodes now is that our whole purpose in life should be to create a clean vessel and continue to expand and update that vessel to receive more. And in order to receive more, we need to let go of certain things, break through certain things, you know, generate new beliefs that support us to receiving more. If we don't believe we're deserving of receiving more, it's not going to happen. Or if it happens, we're going to melt down. Correct. We don't have enough wattage to take on the new energy that is coming to us. And this is where you see people with depression, drug abuse, challenges, and other addictions when they haven't cleansed themselves of their vessel. And when we want to get to the next level or we're in a breakdown or we feel stuck or we feel blocked, there's a process that you've talked about to manifesting more and getting to the next level. Number one. Pause. And I think that's beautiful.
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David Guillaume
Pause.
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Lewis Howes
As opposed to, like, running around and doing more of the same that's keeping you stuck. Pause and say to God, the Creator, the energy of the world. What a pleasure.
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Mary Ruth
I agree with this.
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Lewis Howes
I agree with this.
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Mary Ruth
I agree with this. I'm aligning with you.
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Lewis Howes
I'm aligning with you. And you may be screaming at the Creator, saying, why is this happening to me? Why is this? Why did this person Die in my life. Why am I sick? Why am I broke? Why do they get fired? Instead of saying, why is this happening to me? Say, I agree with this.
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Mary Ruth
I agree. I don't understand it, but I agree because I want to be on. Because by agreeing, I go on your vibration, and that's how I understand it. People want to understand, then agree. People want to understand and appreciate.
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Lewis Howes
Yes.
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Mary Ruth
But if you first appreciate and agree, then you'll understand.
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Lewis Howes
Interesting. So I agree with this. What a pleasure. Then understand that this test is from the creator. When you understand this is a test from the creator, it's designed for you. It's specifically designed for you.
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Mary Ruth
And third step is asking, why is this in my movie? And what do I need to cleanse? So then later on after, I have to see my anger, my control, all these fears came up. And then I literally write that down. And I make it a point to work through those issues, because it's one thing not being reactive. The second step is, how do I go deeper into my soul to see what my soul correction is.
- [77:37]
Lewis Howes
Show me how to expand my vessel. Why is this in my movie? Step three, step four, show me my limiting beliefs. What are my limiting beliefs? What are the things that I'm saying, thinking, acting that are keeping me in this situation?
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Mary Ruth
If you ask that out loud, you will. Then the universe will rearrange itself to show you immediately. It might come through. Your children, it might come through. You know, it's interesting. Before I came here the last time for our podcast, I was like, okay, I was in my car praying. I said, help me be a messenger for, you know, for our audience. Help me not speak from my brain. And I really wanted to be a channel because you've seen we go all over the place. We have, like, all these questions. We often don't even get to them. And I. I think I got, like, 500 questions from my Instagram stories when I asked them, what should I talk to Louis about? So I was, like, thinking about, what should I talk about? And I said, no, no, no. Now I need that the creator will come and help be a channel. As soon as I asked for that, I. I got a text. I got a text. Without getting into the details of what this text was, it was from someone I hadn't spoken to a long time. And it was a text that got me so angry, so upset.
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Lewis Howes
Today?
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Mary Ruth
No, this was yesterday. First podcast.
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Lewis Howes
Okay, yeah, yeah.
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Mary Ruth
First time on the relationship side. Yes. So. So I looked at it as I was driving, and I said, oh, my God. It all Came up, and first thing I wanted to do is respond, be defensive, and try to solve the problem. I'm like, wow, after 25 years of this wisdom, after 10 minutes ago, I asked the creator to expand my vessel to help bring as much energy as we can into this. The creator sent this person, awaken this person, text me at that moment. What are the odds? I haven't spoken to this person in forever. And they send something and they're like this and that. I'm upset about this and all these things. And I'm like, wait, this is a misunderstanding. This is not right. This person now going to go create a whole problem.
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Lewis Howes
Yeah, they don't understand me.
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Mary Ruth
They don't understand me. Which is a big soul correction for people. When you feel not understood, this is actually something your soul brought into this world to cleanse and change because you were looking for validation. We all want to be understood, but when you need it to be happy, it's a whole different ball. So I looked at this person's text and I said, okay, wait one second. Here it is again. This is a test to expand who I am. I did not respond. I put it down and the rest of the drive, it was about 10 minutes to get the Century City. I said, creator, these things are coming up. Thank you. I love this. I will work on this. I will go through the process. I love that this happened. I want to be on your vibration. I agree that it happens, and I will take responsibility for the feelings that are coming up after the podcast, because right now, I need to be focused. That shifted me to a whole nother level in order to kind of be what we need to be. So every time something important is about to happen, you most likely will have something that will come in to mess you up and to bring it up. So if you are asking the creator to see your limited beliefs might come from your children, might come from your relationship, might come from your business, something will trigger you to show you the parts of you and the vibrations of you that are unlike the creator.
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Lewis Howes
Wow. Okay. The next step, you say, is to clear yourself of negativity. And then the step after that is to remind yourself that, well, we talked about I am wealth. I am abundance. I am unlimited power. I am all these things, kind of reminding yourself, these things, these are all.
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Mary Ruth
Qualities of the Creator. The creator is wealth. Creator is abundance. The creator is powerful.
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Lewis Howes
Yes. And you said, if you're still unable to get through the negative feeling is to create this mantra to help you break through the limiting belief. And if you're feeling it in your body. You can say, walk around, run, sing, dance, whatever. What a pleasure. I love you, Creator. Thank you for bringing this in my life. Thank you for helping me expand my vessel.
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Mary Ruth
Yeah.
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Lewis Howes
And I think that's really powerful. And you mentioned also the distinction to run into the pain and fear, not try to fix the problem right away.
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Mary Ruth
That is correct.
- [81:52]
Lewis Howes
Run into the pain and fear and let go of the attachment to your small vessel so you can get to the bigger vessel.
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Mary Ruth
Right. Because every time we're upset, the small vessel will emerge and try to take control. And then you'll be in the same destiny in the same movie.
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Lewis Howes
This is powerful. And there's a big question I want to ask. There's two big questions I want to ask you because I think a lot of people watching and listening are saying to themselves, gosh, I'm really burnt out. I work so hard and I'm not making more money. Like how come other people, it just seems effortless. It seems like they're not off the work. It just seems like they're relaxed about everything and just things come to them so easy for them. And I'm over here grinding 8, 10, 12, 16 hour days and I'm just like behind on my bills and I'm not able to get ahead. And I'm just. My question is, does hard work relate to making more money and abundance? And I want you to answer it in the next episode that we do. So we're going to get to that in the next episode about money. And I want you to walk through the step by step process from you going broke to becoming a millionaire and what the practical steps are. This episode we talked about the energy, the beliefs around manifesting and this next episode I want to talk about does hard work relate to making more money and the exact steps from going broke to millionaire? For those watching and listening Share below your biggest takeaway on this episode. What opened up for you? What what helped you? What's the thing that you need to go run and start doing right now and take action from this episode? I think it's extremely important to take notes during this process to go rewatch and re listen to this as many times as you need to so you can embody this belief and this understanding. Because the more you can do this and the more you can feel it, you'll be reminded when you feel breakdown and pain. Because you're going to feel it. People are going to feel it at.
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Mary Ruth
Different times in life and people need to know. We go through these comments 100% we text each other and we answer them like this is us. So if they want to engage and people are also sharing amazing examples of how they're doing and how they're breaking through beliefs and how the tools that they're using to manifest these principles. And I think that's beautiful because it's helping the whole community 100%.
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Lewis Howes
So share this with a friend, someone that you think could be inspired by this. And in the next interview around Money, we're going to talk about the things that keep you broke and how to go from broke to millionaire, the step by step process, and so much more. David Guillaume I appreciate you. People can follow you@davidgillam.com you're on Instagram, you're on social media. They can learn more about Kabbalah as well at your website. There's courses people can go get from there and we're exploring doing a lot more together. So stay tuned for that as well on how you can continue to unlock your mindset and your opportunities for abundance. Appreciate you man.
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Mary Ruth
Thank you. Appreciate you.
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Lewis Howes
Thank you so much for watching this video. I hope you got a lot of value. If you did, do me a quick favor, click the like button right now because it's going to help us spread the message to more people. When you like this video and leave a comment of your biggest takeaway in.
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David Guillaume
The comments section below.
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Lewis Howes
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Lewis Howes
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David Guillaume
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